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Explain why you're a Mori anti without using a reason that you yourself are inherently even worse at (i.e. perceived capacity to make art/music, social skills, etc).

>> No.17701677

>>17701571
She hates hololive and her fans. I love hololive and my fans.

>> No.17701720

She's a whiny entitled whore that hates hololive.

>> No.17701835

>>17701677
>>17701720
she's expressed her overall appreciate for her fans multiple times, sometimes to near tears. she just bit off more than she could chew in terms of how faggy some of viewers can be, and she has trouble coping with that.

>> No.17701891

>>17701835
*appreciation
the brap thing and getting baited into reading dumb shit all in the same week made a bad first impression.

>> No.17701895

>>17701835
But why she lashed out at everyone tho?

>> No.17701979

saw other people being antis over recent drama and decided to throw my lot in against mori for easy dopamine
when this dies down ill move back to kiara, maybe with a side of kronii, perhaps a dash of pink cat when the mood arrives

>> No.17702022

>>17701895
can you cite where she did this? if you're going to make a sweeping claim you gotta mention when, otherwise no one will believe you.
Only thing she's "guilty" of in that dept IMO is she doesn't take it sitting down like others, but she seems to care more about getting her frustrations out in general than playing the optics game, which not doing so in turn creates more headaches unfortunately.

>> No.17702113

>>17701895
Probably raised thinking she was destined to just succeed, got to japan and no one kisses her feet or gives a fuck about her like in burgerland, making her very jaded. Hololive just 'cemented' what she previously thought, that she was destined to succeed and Japan/Japanese stuff was the problem for not recognizing her innate greatness.

>> No.17702127

>>17701571
I dislike how entitled she is, her music and her general attitude towards Hololive
She wants to collab with ecelebs instead of her own coworkers but those ecelebs wouldn’t give her the time or day if she wasn’t in hololive

>> No.17702150

>>17701979
>litreally bants for bants sake that you dont actually believe yourself
this probably accounts for 1/2 of it on this board, good point.

>> No.17702197

I’m not an anti because that requires anti. I just simply don’t care about her

>> No.17702204

>I like the composition, and the purple on the chest is an interesting artistic touch! I'm also a big fan of the Dead Beat's expression as well, there's a good deal of complex emotions you've portrayed very well here and I'm all for it. You've got a good thing going, good work!

>> No.17702222

>>17701571
I just don't like how she tries to break the "Hololive bubble" to the point that it's intrusive to her streams.

>t. former deadbeat

>> No.17702225

>>17702127
>"without using a reason that you yourself are inherently even worse at"
>cites entitlement and music as reasons
opinion discarded.

>> No.17702274

I don't like drug addicts.

>> No.17702354

>>17701835
She doesn't love her fans. She loves asslickers that accept everything she does. She directly referenced the post on reddit that was upvoted that called her unprofessional for getting drunk and making a fool of herself on reddit and Twitter and sounded pretty assblasted about it. When that hugbox calls you out you know you fucked up.

>> No.17702361

>>17702274
Reddit has better humour.

>> No.17702615

>>17702354
>sad human gets drunk
>does dumb irrational shit
I will now base my entire opinion of human based on their inebriated mistakes.

>> No.17702620

>>17701571
She's entitled enough to think destroying a community to cater to herself is better than just finding a community of people like her instead. That's all I've ever hated her for. But because I actually believe this, when she wins in the end and everyone sucks her dick and the original community is gone, well, I won't still be here complaining. I may not like Burgers or their mindset but I also don't believe in eternally wasting my energy on them, if they want to ruin everything I enjoy, that's fine. I'll fight until it's a complete lost cause and then move on, there are things more precious to me in life than entertainment.

>> No.17702668

>>17701895
I don't think ever seen anyone in EN lash out at anyone besides Ame during the Witcher and she was 100% justified

>> No.17702680

Im not a mori anti and i dont hate mori either, however i think the hate is deserved
Theres no justification for her recent actions, in her pursuit of owning the haters she lashed at a random faggot just saying he didnt like trash taste collabs (could have ignored it or adressed it indirectly)
She took a bait superchat (could have ignored it)
Used her company account to own le haters by sending hate superchat money to her friend despite it obviously being exploitable
Made a fool of herself by responding to a known anti days old bait post (could have ignored it)
Had a sperg out on Twitter with the lean thing, which granted, was a nothing burger but still fed the antis.
Imo mori needs to get flammed so that she might (however unlikely) learn to stop being an impulsive retard who has to own le haters, of course, the amount of shitposting going around got old pretty fast, if this was other more stable chuuba, i would say it has become irrelevant, but mori, by showing how much she will lash out at the most obvious bait has painted a massive target on her back, and the antis are going to keep shit posting until she shows she wont be retarded and take the bait
Tldr: Mori has to learn how to not be a retard

>> No.17702681

>>17702354
>She doesn't love her fans. She loves asslickers that accept everything she does.
this is based on...?
>reddit post
people way overreacted to that, thought she did go a bit overboard and admitted to it.

>> No.17702710

>>17702615
You can choose not to get drunk, people that aren't sacks of shit do it every day. No matter how hard you try to pretend otherwise, making irrational decisions when you're drunk doesn't include the decision of getting drunk. If it did, nobody would have any right to complain about drunk drivers.

>> No.17702736 [DELETED] 

>>17702681
>t. cuckbeat asslicker

>> No.17702764

>>17702620
>She's entitled enough to think destroying a community to cater to herself is better than just finding a community of people like her instead.
this sounds like schizo narrative but ill bite, what are you referencing? also your last 2 sentences contradict each other.

>> No.17702776

>>17702022
Her meltdown is still up on her Twitter: https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1486590251934048257

>> No.17702837

Smells like cuckbeat cope itt

>> No.17702844

>>17702680
Mori's dead, she resurrected CuntCube to have her sperg outs, as long as she continues that instead, this board can hopefully ban all mention of her.

>> No.17702908

>>17702764
If you can point out the contradictions, I'll reply to your bad faith question.

>> No.17702927

>>17702680
>Used her company account to own le haters by sending hate superchat money to her friend despite it obviously being exploitable
this was unironically based, but you're right that she takes things too personally. She needs to rationalize the disconnect between her and people's personal idea of her.
armachair faggotry but i feel like this overdefensiveness partially stems from her past abuse at school.

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17702957

>>17702736
>>17702837
>t.

>> No.17702958

>>17702844
Thankfully, devilish square is not a vtuber so i dont think posting about her sperg outs as DD will be common around here

>> No.17702984

>>17702776
its crazy how you can link fake tweets just by matching up the number with something completely different
also kek

>> No.17703079

>>17702615
If she had a real job she'd be collecting unemployment after doing that. Also boohoo being a millionaire that works 2 hours a day tops is soooooo hard.

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17703095

>>17701571
>you can't criticize a movie if you aren't a film director
>you can't criticize a dish if you aren't a chef
>you can't criticize a musical piece unless you're a musician
>you can't criticize a streamer unless you're a streamer yourself
>you can't call me a cuckbeat because you aren't a cuck
>no, I'm not crying, leave me alone

>> No.17703105

>>17702736
Ah, so you actually don't have an argument.

>> No.17703109

>>17702927
You really need to understand what based is, even she knows it was retarded. She made a bold claim in the heat-of-the-moment to "own le haters" and then immediately backed down when even her own supporters pointed out how beyond retarded it was since she would have put herself in debt doing it since she has to give away more money than the cut she actually receives from the anti. Plus, she never meant it, she just wanted to publicly donate to her non-Holo friends, when somebody sent a superchat shitting on Kiara she decided to send the money to Ironmouse instead.

>> No.17703153 [DELETED] 

>>17702837
>>17702736
>>17702680
>>17702127
>>17701677
>>>/pol/

>> No.17703169

>>17702908
they're two different points, and burden of proof is on you, so I'm not obligated to do that yet, but sure.
all im saying is you dont want to argue with the abstract concept of the ameriburger mindset (though you could me sperg instead idk) but are willing to go through all that damn effort to actively "fight" them until you think its no use. not important to dwell on tho

>> No.17703183

>>17703095
>Wojack fag
The absolute state of Mori antis kek

>> No.17703196

>>17703095
>you can't call me a cuckbeat because you aren't a cuck
kek

>> No.17703197 [DELETED] 

>>17703153
rent free
YWNBAW
cope
seethe
dilate

>> No.17703255

>>17703153
the one you frame it seems the whole world hates mori, SEA, china, /pol/ , US, UE, the literal boogy man

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17703277

>>17703183
>The absolute state of Mori antis kek

>> No.17703317

>>17701571
so if i walk into a restaurant i cannot say the food is shit unless i cook better than the chef?

>> No.17703325

>>17703109
>then immediately backed down when even her own supporters pointed out how beyond retarded it was
no she didn't, try again. what you posted later about ironmouse already contradicts this.
>since she has to give away more money than the cut she actually receives from the anti
she can just give half?
>hen somebody sent a superchat shitting on Kiara she decided to send the money to Ironmouse instead.
she probably switched to doing it privately or did it while she wasnt streaming.

>> No.17703332

>>17701571
>can't complain about something if you're not better
Did I travel back in time to elementary school...?

>> No.17703385

>>17702927
>i feel like this overdefensiveness partially stems from her past abuse at school
Thats a good theory.
Imo mori has shown that she can improve (2nd season mori) even if she still fucks up, i think she will learn to not take shit personally, it will be a slow process, she will fuck up in the way,but at the end of the day, shes a human being who will commit mistakes, and hopefully she improves and we can all put this situation behind us

>> No.17703436

>>17703317
yes

>> No.17703441

>>17703385
That's awfully optimistic.

>> No.17703458

>>17703325
>she probably switched to doing it privately or did it while she wasnt streaming.
She also, probably, sucked my cock and swallowed, maybe. You don't know.

>> No.17703495

>>17703332
im trying to look for something more objective than "music bad", and /vt/ complaining about autism is like a born paraplegic trying to bad-faith critique a high-school sprinter.

>> No.17703585 [DELETED] 

Total indifference towards the job and her coworkers plus the unfounded belief she's above it all (and the lack of gratitude necessary to believe that). Not an anti though, just don't want her to fuck things up for the girls who *do* care or who don't have as many paypigs to fall back on if this goes tits up.

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17703599

>>17703441
Its good to have a bit of hope

>> No.17703621

>>17703385
i wouldn't really call it a situation beyond the initial day it happened. the execution is shit but it's a breath of fresh air that she doesn't take it lying down, kind of like Suisei but less charismatic.
>>17703458
I do know you've never been with a woman, so the only cock you may have interacted with is your dad's.

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17703635

> Total indifference towards the job and her coworkers plus the unfounded belief she's above it all (and the lack of gratitude necessary to believe that). Not an anti though, just don't want her to fuck things up for the girls who *do* care or who don't have as many paypigs to fall back on if this goes tits up.

>> No.17703687

>>17702225
I'm an actual professionally signed singer with 2.75M subs (and rising) and 100+M views songs though

>> No.17703733

>>17703687
link channel and make a tweet

>> No.17703752
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17703752

she said shed produce music and then never did

>> No.17703756

>>17701677
This.

>> No.17703760 [DELETED] 

>>17703635
Oooooh struck a nerve if you have to wojak-post *and* pretend its a reddit opinion

>> No.17703789 [DELETED] 

>>17701571
She can't stop sucking twitchnigger eceleb dick. I watch Hololive to get away from this shit, while she wants to bring this in. She could at least just keep that shit to her roommate account so it can be ignored, but naw dawg, little miss braphog just NEEDS to be seen schmoozing with ecelebs in her official hololive persona. Which makes sense, of course, when you realize that all those of her favorite eceleb niggers she's trying to ingratate herself with wouldn't actually care for her relatively insignificant roommate persona, and are only indulging her because she's the 1.9 mil vtuber "Calliope Mori" from the most popular agency Hololive. So it's a mutual leeching for clout, and for anyone who's not a fan of either Mori or her twitchnigger eceleb targets, it's quite transparent and detestable. She's culturally incompatible with Hololive and whines like an entitled bitch about the opportunity that lifted her from her ngmi deadend minwage squalor life, just because some common-sense professional expectations come with it.

That's the most important issue, beyond everything else. Other than that, there are matters of personal taste (that I could even deal with if she were at least a proper Hololive talent and stopped sucking eceleb dick), like how her retarded mannerisms and that stupid wigger "ya boi dawg" shit is revolting, and her pathetic cuckbraps who cream themselves over "omg so dorky, yaas kween slay!" are fucked in the head

>> No.17703793

>>17703621
Copebeat...

>> No.17703797

>>17703585
and here everyone thought Ollie was the problem when it came to breaking down barriers. she still is but not as much as Mori has shown
>>17703752
I also like how she has Batsu drinking game but whenever it came time to do so in a collab she flaked

>> No.17703876

>>17703752
i think she meant going through the process on-stream, and cover told her 'no' on that. They didnt like it when she gave out the master files for the RIP contest.

>> No.17703906

I dont get it either. Cucking? Hating fans/Hololive? Entitlement?

And this is based on? That one sarcastic tweet? The unicorns who exaggerates shit?

The only thing she fucked up about was biting the bait then it was a back-and-forth anti vs mori because of antis and unicorns keep on exaggerating whatever she does.

I think she deserves to be reprimanded, yes, but all this unprecedented hate and calls for graduation...?...wtf? She sacrificed a lot from music, to collabs(ttrpg, tea party, chadcast hello), she even said she'd like to give expensive gifts to Myth because she is usually the giver and they deserve it.

Im fucking glad this board is an extreme minority of the fanbase and what ever happens here doesnt influence much cuz holy fucking shit. Reeks of incels and sad parasocial losers.

And no, im not a deadbeat. Im a Moonafic. But as a regular from /#/, at least their retardation is bearable and backed with data than you niggers

>> No.17703911

>>17703458
>>17703109
NTA but this is a retarded angle to take because holos literally CAN NOT make monetary transactions between each other on their main accounts it's against company policy
I've known Ame for example to use to a different account to member other ENs

>> No.17703912

>>17703079
okay that 2 hours a day thing is bullshit and you know it. There's a bunch of shit outside of live streaming time. All of them aside from the known few put in 40 hour work weeks

>> No.17703935

Ooooh jannies getting assblasted about the Mori haters

>> No.17703949

>>17703797
Genuine question why the barrier breaking thing is bad? Cover keeps stuff like that on a short leash, and there hasn't really been an overstep like VShojo did.

>> No.17704006 [DELETED] 

>>17703793
>>17703585
>>17703332
>>>/pol/

>> No.17704013

>>17703911
So she must have used her super private secret account to do it, it had to be.
>copebeat_crying.gif

>> No.17704021

>>17703906
you smell mildly reddit but otherwise based and /thread pilled

>> No.17704050

>>17704006
>>17703906
>>17704021
wrong and ignores context
your only lashing at strawmen you made up

>> No.17704059

explain the drama to me

>> No.17704062

>>17703752
>she said shed produce music and then never did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ydgEipkUEU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-LOlueKCtk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz7JIBvAFqM
>Track Arrange/Mix: Calliope Mori (me!)
?

>> No.17704068 [DELETED] 

Mori never wanted to do this pandering ass vtuber shit. The reason she made songs recently telling fans “I’m not your girlfriend or substitute waifu” is to break news to them lightly when she collabs with cr1tikal on her roommates account. And she’s hoping by that point none of the deadbeats off themselves because she’s softened em up. She even recently talked about how it wasn’t “impossible” anymore to collab with Charlie during her Christmas stream. Figure out why yet? And coincidentally Tophamhat comes out with a brand new song today about the same topic mori has been thinking.. it boils down to dumb bitch can’t handle criticism and “haters”. But it’s also the life she chose to pursue so it’s sad to say but she really isn’t cut out to be a streamer, honestly. Might have been better after improving her self confidence a bit more.

Tldr: Mori is tired of Hololive bs/her fanbase and got the OK from J-Chad to stream with Charlie on her alt account. So it’s not going away.

>> No.17704070

>>17703935
this cope about jannies being deadbeats or chumbuds is hilarious when they're just cleaning schizo shit

>> No.17704071

>>17701571
I will never defend anitubers

>> No.17704084

>>17703325
She literally did back down, her claim was originally if you send any anti superchats about other people, she will pass that money on to them. Not only did she back down and point out she was no longer going to do that because it's so exploitable and would cost her money, she also pointed out she would do it anonymously so that nobody could prove she didn't do it. That is the very essence of backing down out of cowardice over the most retarded spur-of-the-moment bold claim. Even if she actually was still donating all the money (she isn't and never was), doing it anonymously reversed the entire initial bold claim because if she's donating all that anonymously, she's not owning the haters who have no evidence their money is going to the people they shit on, she's just anonymously destroying her own dignity. And you can try to spin it into she's actually boosting her own sense of self-worth by giving people money out of generosity anonymously, but that doesn't work either if the reason she's giving them money is because she's full of hate and anger towards the people who are giving her money. She definitively lost on that one, there's no way to spin it into a win for her unless you're braindead. She doesn't think it's a win either, which is why she had to deflect in her own comments rather than explain on stream why it was a stupid thing to say.

>> No.17704092

>>17704050
by context you mean nonsequitur schizo narratives loosely based on these interactions?

>> No.17704147

>>17703906
Lurk moar or fuck off back to where you came from.

>> No.17704197

>>17704147
>>/r9k/

>> No.17704234

>>17704092
dont jump into a something you know nothing about then claim enyone who is CORRECT is a schizo

>> No.17704244

>>17702680
If anyone posting here said they were doing opiates on a company account they'd be fired. Regardless if it was true or a mistake. The fact that she's STILL assblasted that reddit called her unprofessional for doing it is peak entitlement.

>> No.17704288

>>17702361
Then don't bother coming here

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>>17704013
>So she must have used her super private secret account to do it
Yes? They're literally not allowed to used their main accounts to donate/member each other off the top of my head I know both Ame and Polka do this retardchama
>copebeat_crying.gif
Ah I see, you're probably some schizo asshurt your shitpost angle got blown up, very sad

>> No.17704342

>>17704084
the anonymous thing was a matter of not stirring more shit and not giving the anti an ego boost.
maybe i didnt see the clip where she decided to take a more measured approach like you're saying. the problem is you're still convinced the anonymity bit somehow refutes the whole premise. the point was to nullify any stimulus the retard would get.
>but that doesn't work either if the reason she's giving them money is because she's full of hate and anger towards the people who are giving her money
this is a retarded for multiple reasons. i'm done engaging in good faith with you. PEACE schizo

>> No.17704402

>>17704288
no, i'll stay here. what are you gonna do? cry?

>> No.17704405

>>17704342
*a retarded belief

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17704481

>>17701571
I just want to bullying Deadbeat into stop being a bunch of yes-men and at least try letting Mori see that she have a problem that need to be adjust. Also after see how she treating Hololive and it talents, i really don't want a second wolf warrior situation again.

t.SEAnigs.

Also it fun to tease Cuckbeats.
https://youtu.be/yD99GKKS_KQ

>> No.17704528

>>17701571
for me is her obsession with dragging her "friends" to her hololive channel, i cannot believe she doesnt understand it makes her look like shes in another crew, her twitch plans were the thing that made me lose faith in her, the meltdown honestly is a mistake she could learn from even if it exponentialy increased my perception on how childish she is, that can be forgiven, splitting channels made it official, im subbed to every holo girl but shes the only one i have to mute on twitter and unsub and block on youtube to not get her alter ego bullshit in my time line.

>> No.17704569

>>17704342
The fact that you defend someone without even being familiar with their content is embarrassing. Just remember every time you defend your queen that she disagrees with everything you say about her and if she and I were having a conversation, she'd never be as dishonest as you. She's the one who keeps coming over to me to be able to feel anything because you limpdicks can't stimulate her.

>> No.17704595

>>17704569
stop projecting

>> No.17704599

>>17704481
I'm into TTS moonbeats but the 'just be a vixen for me' bit made me cringe into closing the tab. /vt/ can't even get their OC to not sound like spastic ramblings.

>> No.17704646

>>17701979
by the way you write I can tell that you masturbate to tremendous amounts of gay porn.

>> No.17704649

>>17701571
She can't handle her liquor, I can.

>> No.17704669

>>17704528
> i cannot believe she doesnt understand it makes her look like shes in another crew
what's wrong with having social groups outside hololive?
> splitting channels made it official
but its okay when pekora does it?

>> No.17704672

>>17704308
>>17703911
What the fuck are you talking about retard? Matsuri constantly fucking superchats holos and even nijis. You faggots really have to make shit up that's easily verifiable?

>> No.17704675

>>17704595
Whatever helps you sleep at night, cuckbeat. Me and your oshi know the real score.

>> No.17704730

>>17704569
me immediately understanding and agreeing with your estrogen-charged nonsequitur reasoning as to why she does shit is not "being familar with the content".

>> No.17704754

>>17704649
Can you handle crack tho?

>> No.17704818

>>17704084
only backed down because even the cucks were criticizing it, just like the reddit "you guys are right" post, say sorry and then mald in the background writting angry responses "song"

>> No.17704885

>>17704730
You either are genuinely ignorant about her content and just say nonsense or you pretend to be. There's no scenario where you are engaging in good faith when you have to use contradicted headcanon to defend your point.

>> No.17704902

>>17701571
Imagine releasing a whole album on your roomate account meanwhile just releasing one song with your hololive persona.

>> No.17704916

>>17704481
Oh and she also get IRyS into her podcast despite her throat problem,and then proceed to set IRyS and Bael up to collab with SteelRodent(granted that i have 0 problem with mousey, just the way Mori pull that off is really low).

https://youtu.be/MXd7uOemEzc
20:30

>> No.17704920

Don't care and not an anti.

>> No.17704938

>>17701571
She should honestly grow thicker skin, because if she wants to "break her bubble", she WILL run into more of the bullshit we had last week.
She already debased herself while under the great Hololive shield. When it can no longer protect her, what's gonna happen to her?

>> No.17704947

>>17704402
Call you a nigger

>> No.17705008

>>17704062
An unwritten rule in 4chan is that you never provide solid evidence when trying to prove your point because you just know these faggot schizos will just whimper out of embarrassment and shitpost somewhere else. Or just get scared off because someone stood up against them on the internet, yes, they are that cowardly.

>> No.17705025

>>17704947
i accept your concession

>> No.17705031

>>17704669
>what's wrong with having social groups outside of hololive?
Nothing. Just keep them the fuck away from Hololive unless they're vtubers. If she's so desperate to interact with them on stream then she can do it as her PL, not as Mori Calliope. If they're truly her friends then they shouldn't care whether it's as her PL or Mori Calliope, right?

>> No.17705060

>>17704599
Still better than "イエスイエスジャペーネサズ" kek

>> No.17705070

>>17705025
Nigger

>> No.17705092

>>17705031
>>>/r9k/

>> No.17705112

>>17705092
>>>/reddit/

>> No.17705149

>>17705092
Go back

>> No.17705165

>>17704818
Them calling her out is what gave her the out she needed, without them doing that she would have been absolutely fucked. It would have been hilarious. It wasn't until her fans criticized her that she realized she would actually lose money doing what she said. She really didn't see the exploitability of the scheme until her fans pointed it out. If she actually would have done what she said she was going to do, it would actually have become retarded for her antis NOT to donate to her because they could just say something mean about someone they actually like and then Mori would have to lose money on transaction fees to send money to someone the anti likes and she'd be eternally asspained over it and the anti would be getting everything he ever dreamed of.

>> No.17705172

>>17705092
I accept your concession.

>> No.17705208

I am not an anti, I laugh from the sidelines. I think I'd be a good anti though I always get good ideas to add gasoline to the fire, alas I'll never do it.
That said cuckbeats melting down has been one of the funniest things I've seen on this site in years, they blame a new boogieman every day.

>> No.17705268

>>17701571
>you can't criticize X if you couldn't do a better job

Most retarded defense. I can tell if something is shit or not even if I couldn't make something good myself.

>> No.17705279

>>17705092
You seem to like them a lot, why don't you copy their mutt representative and blow your brains out on a livestream in your mother's house. I'll even make a youtube account to like the video for you.

>> No.17705345

>>17705268
It's not surprising a generation receiving "at least there was an attempt" awards would think doing a bad job at something is better than not doing it.

>> No.17705364

>>17704669
>social groups
nothing wrong, if i dont hear about it on main account
>pekora
its ok for the same reason, Peko is fully on Holo, her i dont hear anything about her actress if i dont want to. Mori icraves to get out of Holo even on main account.

>> No.17705436

>>17701571
I'm a Mori Anti because I'm a miserable failure at literally everything I've ever done in life, it pisses me off that anyone ever achieves even a modicum of success in their life, and when I see that, I make it my mission to bitch and whine about them as much as possible because on some level I think that if I bitch and whine loud and hard enough, it might somehow drag them down to a level lower than myself, and once that happens, I'll feel like I've done something worthwhile with my otherwise 100% worthless life.

>> No.17705530

>>17705436
Based beyond belief.

>> No.17705564

>>17705436
An anti finally being honest! See, that wasn't so hard, was it?

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>>17705208
Zhang, SEAnigs, Indogs, bla bla bla..., just show how racist cuckbeats can be. And they are proud with it.

>> No.17705617

>>17705564
Now that you've finished replying to yourself, make a post being honest about why you're a cuckbeat.

>> No.17705620

>>17705564
Nice samefag, faggot. Applause.

>> No.17705623

>>17705436
>>17705530
>>17705564
samefag

>> No.17705639

>>17705566
It's not even a race thing only they are blaming random boards and sites too. I've seen people deflect it as a /qa/ raid.
I thought the Ameggedon was gonna be the lowest the EN fanbase would get.

>> No.17705692

>>17704059
>Mori does a twitter space where she talks about jojo
>Fags post twitter messages about Connor is a huge a jojofag and owns lots of merch
>Mori reads these post and thus mentions Connor
>10 hours later, Mori streams
>Schizo sends $100 to yell at Mori because she mentioned him
>During SC reading, She calls the schizo dumb for basically spending $100 to yell at her, and thinks it weird they would try to police who she is and isn't allowed to talk to
>10 hours later, Mori donates about $100 worth of gifts to connor
>24 hours later on her next stream reveals that from now on she'll make it a policy that if you SC her money to shit talk other people she'll donate the money forward
>Her supporters tell her this is kinda retarded and easily exploitable
>She agrees and winds up walking this policy back
>48 hours later, known holo-anti twitter fag post cuckshit in her art tag
>She replies with a long sarcastic message
>/vt/ shits itself, some people call her dumb for giving a known anti attention, some people call her based for shitting on him, other people not in the loop confused why she replied to what it technically porn
>She deletes the message and takes off for a few days
That's pretty much all off this dramashit

>> No.17705693

>>17701571
What even counts as an anti first and foremost? Are they your usual shitposters trying to have their own fun? Are they people that think x is bad because of their own preferences? Are they people that critique something or call something stupid? I unironically just want Mori to be more professional with how she deals with trolls and had a bit of fun laughing at her retardedness for a while until it got old, does that constitute me as an anti?

>> No.17705718

>>17701571
Mori never wanted to do this pandering ass vtuber shit. The reason she made songs recently telling fans “I’m not your girlfriend or substitute waifu” is to break news to them lightly when she collabs with cr1tikal on her roommates account. And she’s hoping by that point none of the deadbeats off themselves because she’s softened em up. She even recently talked about how it wasn’t “impossible” anymore to collab with Charlie during her Christmas stream. Figure out why yet? And coincidentally Tophamhat comes out with a brand new song today about the same topic mori has been thinking.. it boils down to dumb bitch can’t handle criticism and “haters”. But it’s also the life she chose to pursue so it’s sad to say but she really isn’t cut out to be a streamer, honestly. Might have been better after improving her self confidence a bit more.

Tldr: Mori is tired of Hololive bs/her fanbase and got the OK from J-Chad to stream with Charlie on her alt account. So it’s not going away.

>> No.17705785

>>17705692
>Schizo sends $100 to yell at Mori because she mentioned him
Yea, found the Schizo

>> No.17705805

>>17705692
Every other day
>/vt/ is not even relevant why do you care so much you schizo
Right now
>omg it's all /vt/'s fault, please stop, you're hurting her hurr durrr
Which one is it then?

>> No.17705828

>>17704059
https://archive.wakarimasen.moe/vt/search/text/%22the%20whole%20timeline%22

>> No.17705882

>>17704672
You can go ask Ame what she meant , she made it pretty clear she wasn't allowed to do shit on her main
>Matsuri constantly fucking superchats holos
It's probably a recent rule or something because I haven't see her donate to holos in a while
>Niji
Who gives a shit? they're aren't hololive which is what this point was about

>> No.17705884

>>17705692
It's fascinating to see attempts at replicating the propaganda tactics of "journalism" over something as trivial as this. The way you can't be honest about a single thing and have to overload it all with your commentary is ridiculous.

>> No.17705961

>>17705692
>Leaves out all the parts that make her look bad including the part where she got shitfaced and made such a fool of herself on Twitter and reddit that even the reddit hugbox downvoted her into negative and told her to act professional
>She's STILL assblasted about that "unprofessional" comment and referenced it WEEKS later

>> No.17706010

>>17705693
Normally an anti actively goes after a target and fucks with them over and over. Concern trolling about permissions, spreading their personal info around, pretending to be offended over menial shit to get them into trouble with management, insulting them, spamming their chats, etc. The guy larping as a KFP who tweeted out the cuck comic was an anti, normally any of the girls would ignore such a thing but not Mori.
People here circlejerking in this board laughing at the whole situation aren't antis, sadly vtuber discussion on 4chan got contanimated by Reddit around 2020 and saying anything bad about a talent is considered anti behavior.

>> No.17706095

>>17705639
Bullets be flying everywhere, they literally shoot at anything that they could laid their aim on. Kek. How low can cuckbeats go?

>> No.17706155

>>17705805
This, /vt/ just sit at the sideline and watch as Mori pull a dr. Doofenshmirtz.
Still getting blame for it. Lol

>> No.17706209

>>17705693
Anti=anyone I disagree with. Oh you didn't like Q? You MUST be an anti

>> No.17706269

>>17701571
im a mori anti because she's en, but not only is she en but shes one of the en who doesnt know a lick of jp. the others i can understand but still dislike them because they dont live in japan, but you're telling me this bitch lives in japan and cant even hold a fucking basic conversation in the language of the place you live in?

>> No.17706319

>>17706155
Nobody even know if the guy that sent the superchat was from here. Everything that happened after it was her digging a deeper and deeper hole for herself. No idea why this board is getting blamed since you can easily ignore this place and never come here.

>> No.17706382

>>17706269
Mori deserves to be hated, but you're a schizo if you say that she can't even hold a fucking basic conversation in Japanese.

>> No.17706385

>>17704916
>he also get IRyS into her podcast despite her throat problem
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1484753176368586754
She literally delayed this for two weeks specifically because she didn't want Irys to fuck up her throat, what the fuck are you talking about?
>then proceed to set IRyS and Bael up to collab with SteelRodent(granted that i have 0 problem with mousey, just the way Mori pull that off is really low).
Mentioning that IM would like to play someday is no where remotely close to actually setting up a collab you unironic fucking retard

>> No.17706414

Never watched her but I dislike her currently because she keeps replying to Luxiem and I assume she's doing so to own her fans who dislike men, and I want her to go away and harass some other men

>> No.17706422

>>17706382
She couldn't hold a basic conversation during Sports festival though.

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> It's fascinating to see attempts at replicating the propaganda tactics of "journalism" over something as trivial as this. The way you can't be honest about a single thing and have to overload it all with your commentary is ridiculous.

>> No.17706494

>>17706382
>Naruhodo
>Naruhodo
>Naruhodo
>Is she on crack?
Coco tried to warn us.

>> No.17706514 [DELETED] 

>>17706426
>Reddit spacing
go back

>> No.17706515

>>17706382
Depends on your standards of basic conversation. She can somehow get the point across, but her conversations skills are at her absolute best at the level of an elementary schooler.

>> No.17706539

I've gotten over it at this point. Just stay away from Conner

>> No.17706552

>>17706494
> coco
i knew, mori antis are zhangs

>> No.17706597

>>17701571
I do not like her content and I do not like the way she's pulling back the veil from her vtuber self specifically in a way to vent about her vtuber self

>> No.17706612

>>17706385
>let's all play terraria together
>sure!
>let's all play together with ironmouse!
Totally not setting up for a collab here

>> No.17706625

>>17702615
>You see I raped this woman while being drunk, so I did nothing wrong
Okay retard...

>> No.17706656

>>17706552
The post puts coco on a positive light anonchama

>> No.17706666

>>17706319
I still refuse to believe Mori herself comes here, with how much she spergs out over redditors, youtube comments and twitter there is no way she can handle this place. Her seethe is too specifically at things that have nothing to do with /vt/ for this to actually be her secret big concern. Plus, it's completely out of character for her to not bring stuff from here up in her meltdowns when she brings up all the other stuff she shouldn't acknowledge. She already ruins her reputation with that stuff, the idea that she's somehow professionally drawing the line here and not there is nonsensical.

>> No.17706667

>>17706385
one week delay, and in the same week, iRyS doctor confirmed her throat was worse than expected and changed the last instruction from (only talk for work) to (dont talk at all)

>> No.17706670

antis can sperg all they're want here, but nothing happens because they a minority

>> No.17706713

>>17706670
>>17705805
bruh, have we gone full circle?

>> No.17706727

>>17702615
>I will now base my entire opinion of human based on their inebriated mistakes.
This but unironically, knowing how someone is like when unfiltered is a good way to judge character

>> No.17706751

>>17706666
I believe she seethed this bad because the very first superchat complaining about connor came on a member stream from a long time member, and she realised that a lot of people actually dislike her friends instead of just this place, after that it just snowballed

>> No.17706767

>>17705364
>its ok for the same reason, Peko is fully on Holo, her i dont hear anything about her actress
Except they do? her RM is a nip who streamed on NND, logically the only nips mention her way more because they're also japanese, in the same way you hear about Mori's because she's english speaker
also you didn't answer his question, why is it ok for several holomems to have twitch account (several which actively stream on) but the line gets drawn when Mori has one? (that she hasn't even actually streamed on once)
>Mori icraves to get out of Holo even on main account.
What does this even mean?

>> No.17706783

>>17706625
HA

coming from this forsaken place

>> No.17706784

>>17706713
it was blown out of proportion, but 4channelers don't have any power besides saying mean things

>> No.17706788

>>17706666
shes probably one of the ridiculous white knights cuckbeats selfposting

>> No.17706797

>>17706385
She delayed it because people were giving her shit for streaming at the same time as Polka's birthday, revisionistbeat.

>> No.17706855

>>17705805
>>omg it's all /vt/'s fault, please stop, you're hurting her hurr durrr
I never said this though?

>> No.17706881

>>17706751
> came on a member stream from a long time member
pulling shit out of your ass

>> No.17706897

>>17706784
>blown out of proportion
Just like the Taiwan thing, one would believe you would be used to this kind of thing by now but it seems not.

>> No.17706942

>>17706783
go back

>> No.17706955

>>17706385
And she should have delay it more, or better yet, find a replacement for IRyS, since before this podcast IRyS have a SILENT member only stream to save up her voice. One weak delay mean nothings if her throat still in bad condition.

>You guys know Iron Mouse? She like one of the OG Vtuber, she soo cool and she want to play Teraria with US.
>From the stream 20:40
You telling me this isn't a set up ?

Also check out IRyS reaction when she heard that.

>> No.17706961

>>17706767
Pekora's other persona stopped existing when she got hired fucktard. Stop arguing in bad faith. Pekora doesn't talk about shit outside hololive besides her immediate family.

>> No.17706967

>>17706010
It's unfortunately because of the Taiwan yab.
The fanbase became extremely protective of Hololive against antis, justifiably so at the time because most of the antis were bugs attacking Holo.
The unfortunate aftermath is that the Holo community was conditioned to take any sort of negativity towards Holo members as anti behavior equivalent to bug behavior. This goes so far as to dismiss any legitimate criticism or understandable backlash as being on the same level as chink invasion.

>> No.17706975

I can't bring myself to care since i'm not an EN newfag who haven't seen real antis.
I've seen weeks of psychotic SEAfags and zhangs shit up every thread with insane bullshit.

>> No.17706995

>>17706319
It's only Twitter that blames the aftermath on us
1. We only wanted justice for what Connor said, this was NEVER about calli
2. The people who made this about calli was reddit because calli wouldn't stop taking the bait, but now we're called the incels antis even though the genuine incels are on Twitter and the insecure bastards on reddit (hell reddit fucking despises anything anime related unless it's a subreddit for something anime) we're just petty, and we wanted to take down Connor, but now not even this fucking board has the balls to do something and just keep seething AT FUCKING BAIT

>> No.17707023

>>17706967
It was actually before the Taiwan yab. It reached critical mass (heh) during the Aloe fiasco but it began forming before that.

>> No.17707033

>>17706942
Make me, retard
Oh wait you can't, so suck it up

>> No.17707047

>>17706967
shitting on Mori because she collabs with TT isn't anti behaviour?

>> No.17707048 [DELETED] 

>>17703906
>>17705092
>>17704342
>>17705436
>>17705564
>>17706426
>>17706783
Sorry for the mass reply but I compiled this post to prove cuckbeats are discord trannies. Don't engage with them.

>> No.17707049

>>17706967
That might have flown when the anger was going on but now it's clearly people from other boards and sites looking for tortanic drama who doesn't know a thing about vtubers much less hololive.

>> No.17707069

>>17706625
I can't believe I just read a schizo comparing someone drunkposting on Twitter to literal rape

>> No.17707075

>>17706881
You know what superchat I'm referring to right? The one that told her to not associate with connor was from a member stream from a 10 month member

>> No.17707076

>>17701571
She's a whiny entitled white woman who has had a comfortable life full of opportunities and decides because she found touhou rap on tumbr she'd uproot and kneecap herself moving to a foreign asian nation to get riced and to make a name for herself in a tiny underground niche music market.
I'd have respect for her if she wasn't so gungho on bitching so much about how miserable she seems to be living in Japan. Well sweetheart, welcome to the gaijin expat experience, spoiler alert, japs look at you like you're special, but that's it, they just look at you, they don't wanna touch you.
She should've moved back home when the coof started
So yeah, I'm a poverty ridden burger, but I can smell entitlement from a mile away and I don't LARP that I'm poor when I'm not, because I am poor.

>> No.17707108

>>17705884
Feel free to give your totally non-biased rage filled relocation then Mr schizo!
>>17705961
>>Leaves out all the parts that make her look bad including the part where she got shitfaced and made such a fool of herself on Twitter and reddit that
?
I literally said " some people call her dumb for giving a known anti attention" Please learn to read before replying to me again
>She's STILL assblasted about that "unprofessional" comment and referenced it WEEKS later
I haven't heard her mention shit about this since she came back, you must be the ledditor that wrote that considering how much importance you're ascribing it

>> No.17707114

>>17707069
You're missing his point and (you) know it

>> No.17707177

>>17707023
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. That was the beginning of the "protecc Holo" movement but those two events were so close together the line blurred a little.
>>17707047
Are we deflecting again? This isn't about the TT thing, this is about people telling Mori she was petty and unprofessional.

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>>17704147
>>17706942
Y'all can't do jack shit though

>> No.17707185

>>17701571
i dont need a reason. total war

>> No.17707187

>>17707047
Everyone was shitting on TT for the shit they did, not on Mori because she supposedly didn't know about their comments, at least until she defended them, she got no excuse now

>> No.17707189

>>17707047
It was one superchat that was easy to ignore, not a harassment campaign lasting more than one year targeting her even in real life.
Also she's still assblasted about reddit telling her to not get shitfaced while making a fool of herself and act professional. That's legitimate criticism that will serve her well even outside if hololive.

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> Sorry for the mass reply but I compiled this post to prove cuckbeats are discord trannies. Don't engage with them.

>> No.17707228

>>17706539
Spoiler: She won't

>> No.17707241

>>17707033
N

>> No.17707255

>>17707047
Nope, fair criticism because Mori could have very easily ignored the superchat with a "oh, ok, thanks for the SC, next one..." but instead decided to drop all the spaghetti on twitter and on stream.

>> No.17707256 [DELETED] 

>>17707048
>sorry for the mass reply
>don't engage with them
Go back, faggot

>> No.17707258

>>17707047
I think people are shitting on her because:
>I like the composition, and the purple on the chest is an interesting artistic touch! I'm also a big fan of the Dead Beat's expression as well, there's a good deal of complex emotions you've portrayed very well here and I'm all for it. You've got a good thing going, good work!

>Can I PLEASE just have some fun. Please.

>> No.17707259

>>17707033
I

>> No.17707261

>>17707108
>including the part where she got shitfaced and made such a fool of herself
Did you block the lean shit out of your mind or are you pretending that didn't happen

>> No.17707275

>>17707033
G

>> No.17707300

>>17707033
G

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It's just hilarious to me how her forehead unironically looks like one of those grug wojak memes. Maybe because she's la criatura texana.

>> No.17707331

>>17707033
E

>> No.17707341

>>17703183
>Responding to a Wojak post
Please just because your Oshi is a retard replying to a tweet made by an anti days after it was posted does not mean that you should be a retard replying to Wojak posters

>> No.17707352

>>17707033
R

>> No.17707357

>>17706656
Cuckbeats be on edge and attack anything in sight again.>>17706095

>> No.17707365

>>17704234
t. schizo

it's not lack of knowledge, it's just understanding that it's not a big deal and people who want to blow it out of proportions will.

>> No.17707380

>>17707241
>>17707259
>>17707275
>>17707300
>>17707331
>>17707352
K

>> No.17707399

She mixes shit lean.

>> No.17707407

>>17706767
they use twitch for the watchalong feature, mori said she wanted to do random streams, and why? no reason not to do it on youtube, what you get from twitch is "friends" interaction and raids from her crew and twitch camgirls

>> No.17707471

>>17707407
And the first thing she did was to donate the "Condom Money" to Connor.

>> No.17707525

> anti thread still up
jannies are useless

>> No.17707530

>>17707357
Why would we attack other members?
Hell why would we do the whole deflect threads you retards keep spouting about when we also care for the other members?
We're fans of Mori as in she's our oshi
But we also love hololive, and the other girls revolving on hololive
Hell I watch miko, subaru rushia and risu
So why the fuck would I give hate to them "for the sake of calli"?
No that shit is retarded just as you're retarded

>> No.17707533

>>17707114
His point is that "you can't just brush off someone making something bad happen while/because they were drunk in the past, because it's totally reasonable that people will base their perception of them on that single event", and the mf compares the perception of people to an event as what happened with Mori to actual fucking rape. I assure you anon-Chama, that raping someone is not the same tier. Maybe to him, so I'd tell him to get help.

>> No.17707550

>thread asks for an explanation on why someone hates mori
>multiple anons give a reason
>deflect and argue against everyone including your own side
I feel like I've seen this thread before

>> No.17707569

>>17707525
Bitch

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>>17707075
Let me help you, here is the Akasupa that, one and for all, show everyone wherever Mori stand with or against Hololive. What a legend.

>> No.17707595

>>17707525
Redditbro the thread was basically made to shit on (unsuccessfully) antis

>> No.17707615

>>17707365
yea you projection and beyond help
glad you agree and gave me the win

>> No.17707640

>>17707525
Yea, now downvote the thread to oblivion please

>> No.17707665

>>17707533
goddamn, cant believe you have to spoonfeed literaly the meaning of methaphor for that retard

>> No.17707671

>>17707525
>/vt/ had endless shitposting about Kiara, Matsuri, Ayame and Ollie since it's inception
>Not a peep from anyone
>Mori gets the same treatment for a week
>JANNIES?! JANNIES?! JANNIES?! JANNIES?!
God you people are pathetic.

>> No.17707670

>>17702668
Meanwhile in ID
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbyQaZZMDkM

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>>17707590

>> No.17707689

>>17702615
In vino veritas

>> No.17707709

>>17701571
I trying to save her from walking down the dark path of Artia or Ayame.

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>>17707689

>> No.17707735

>>17707533
Sooooo...he and his point still technically correct tho?

>> No.17707762

>>17707671
Because they know that there's a deadbeat janny

>> No.17707767

>>17707525
if you dont want to read anything bad youre in the wrong place, jannies are already too overprotective

>> No.17707839

>>17707590
I think the worst part of this is that she ironically proved the guy right.
The guy was only sperging out that hanging out with Cannur was bad for her, then immediately proved him right by sperging out herself and demolishing herself on social media over it.

>> No.17707854

>>17707261
the lean shit was hilarious, why are you on 4chan if you don't find that type of shit funny?? its one of the funniest things any holo has ever done

>> No.17707879

>>17707525
They did nothing for Anti-coco and chink roleplay threads why would give a shit about a washed-up rapper?

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>>17701571
because I'm a deadbeat

>> No.17707943

>>17707879
Jannies are EN secondaries, they don't even know who Coco is.

>> No.17707972

>>17701571
Anon I 100% didn't hate her before
Idgaf about her really much

I hate when she start feeding the troll , messing up the board and jannies delete my Oshi split/general to protect that bitch even tho that general didn't do anything to mori

>> No.17707987

>>17707854
Yeah! Admitting to Drug use in a country that is very harsh with its punishment towards drug users is so funny, I hope she brings some next time she's on TT!

>> No.17708011

>>17706797
>She delayed it because people were giving her shit for streaming at the same time as Polka's birthday
Holy shit read the fucking tweet you retarded nigger
>>17706667
>>17706955
I love how you ascribe 100% malice on Mori for Irys being on the podcast at all, but 0% benevolence on her for delaying it for a week
Also just completely acting like Irys isn't a fully grown adult capable of self-determination who decided on her own that she would do the podcast despite her health, nope it was all big bad Mori who forced her to do it! (despite the fact the she delayed it the week prior out of concern)
>>17706612
In what world is that the same as setting up collab?
It's like saying
"hey anon, I'd like to hang out with you someday" (In anon's schzio logic this is exactly the same as me picking a time, date, and place)
or, "Man, anon I'd sure love to visit Germany someday" (In anon's schizo logic this is the same as me having a flight and hotel already booked)

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>>17707879
It seems like jannies are on a kind of rotation. One of them is definitely a deadbeat, and anything even remotely negative about Mori gets you banned when he's here.

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>>17707879
there's at least 1 cuckbeat janny dedicated to protecting deadbrapper. i once got banned for saying pekorap was better than any of the cringe rap she's put out, and this was way before the last 2 weeks of controversy

>> No.17708032

>>17701571
I don't like people who use drugs and I don't like black people or their culture.

>> No.17708066

>>17701571
Because rev says desu of all people is dickriding her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2S1s39NlC4

>> No.17708101

>>17707879
Oh but they do give a shit tho, with how mods behave since last week it safe to said that most of them are Cuckbeats, also this>>17707671

>> No.17708126

>>17708025
Even Rushia's rap dedicated to Tamaki is better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SXbDkXfFHo

>> No.17708153

I still remember when the cuckbeat situation first started, the first thread on it was immediately put on autosage. Fuck the deadbrap janitor.

>> No.17708168

>>17703906
>Moonafic
Cuckbeat spotted

Don't bring mooner to your bait faggot
No one here call themselves moonafic
Even the entire /moon/ disgusted with that name

So fuck off both of you and your oshi cuckbeat

>> No.17708170

>>17707665
NTA but the metaphor is unironically so bizarre it begs the question if it's worth engaging with you good faith
You took a twitter comment and rape then compared them like they're even remotely in the same tier lmao

>> No.17708214

>>17707987
the most cucked concern trolling post possible, nice work

>> No.17708239

>>17702222
quads speak the truth

>> No.17708250

>>17708011
>In what world is that the same as setting up collab?
Because if they ever collab in Terraria the IM collab is basically a given, which goes to another point that Irys or Bae will simply avoid collabing with Mori in Terraria (or in general if she tries doing something so slimy again)

>> No.17708300

>>17708250
>Terraria collab
God dude, watching it back it's so obvious how hard Mori is faking everything, it's disgusting. Such an awkward stream.

>> No.17708318

>>17707075
>from a 10 month member
This is literally not true and the dude who made it up both admitted it and said he wouldn't have said it if he knew people here were unironically dumb enough to uncritically believe him, the fact that people STILL regurgitate this is baffling

>> No.17708422

>>17708019
Yeah, this janny hands out 3 day bans and with no warnings either. Someone must've lost their position as a reddit mod and is still salty.

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Try to anti mori without using words, numbers or images.
Haha you can't. fucking #owned.

>> No.17708504

>>17708461

>> No.17708548

Deadbeats should drop Mori and pick up Saa. Better chuuba and much better rapper.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOIpeFohOZ0

>> No.17708551

>>17708250
>Because if they ever collab in Terraria the IM collab is basically a given
Oh they said? damn I guess that hard confirms it then!
Holos have NEVER said they would do X only to wind up not doing X and never mentioning X again, nope never happened before, and definitely isn't just inane lip-service
>which goes to another point that Irys or Bae will simply avoid collabing with Mori in Terraria (or in general if she tries doing something so slimy again)
God your post fucking reek of estrogen, I swear /vt/'s entire userbase is made up hormonal teenage girls

>> No.17708564

>>17708011
A fully grown adult that also need to keep her social image and word. You will understand that when you growth up and have real social interaction and connection, kid. If she is the one making the collab she would 100% cancel it. And since, again, she is a fully grown adult with professionalism and promise to keep, unless Mori(the one making the collab)open about delay the podcast or replacing her role in the collab first, then IRyS (the one that get invited to the collab as guess) won't just straight up ditch everything on her own accord. Kids there day really think that you could just do anything you like and acting like you own the place when working in a group huh? They say the fans reflect their oshi...

>> No.17708574 [DELETED] 

>>17707048
>>17706783
You seem to have mistaken this board for these:
>>>/r9k/
>>>/b/
>>>/pol/

>> No.17708602

>>17708011
>In what world is that the same as setting up collab?
Whether or not she intended it, it's almost emotional blackmail - because unlike your examples, there is a third-party receiver of the invitation, and it was said on record(on stream basically).
While on stream, there is absolutely no way to refuse the invitation without looking like an asshole. And now that they've been invited, they're at risk of looking like assholes when it doesn't happen because expectations have been set.
Did you hear how IryS and Bae reacted to the statement? That was the most "oh, okay then" response I've heard in a while on stream.

>> No.17708612

>>17708548
fucking gross in every way

>> No.17708618

>>17708461
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_FRPoJIrlI

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>>17708504
>>>17708461 (You) #

>> No.17708661

>>17708618
Ehhh...based ?

>> No.17708671

>>17708551
>my hypothetical scenario > your hypothetical scenario
What a great argument anon
And regardless of them collabing or not it's undeniable that what Mori did was rude and uncalled for, you don't invite someone else without asking after getting your other friends to agree on something

>> No.17708699

>>17701571
I'm not.
But I like shitposting here and watching deadbeats foam and seethe.
I wish her all the best and hope she can find the balance she needs.

>> No.17708757

>>17708612
Ogey, Mori.

>> No.17708772

>>17701571
She is incredibly self-righteous, aloof and stubborn about breaking the bubble.
Also I fear that her wiggerisms will taint my oshi even further.
If you watch mori calliope you can just watch pokimaine or any random twich thot with big tits and the way she would treat you wouldn’t be any different

>> No.17708903

>>17708671
This,and this>>17708602
Bring Mouse out of nowhere, said that she want to play with US, it really just emotional blackmail at that point. A really evil(ok maybe not that hash, it rude, not evil)move

>> No.17708933

>>17708011
>I'd like to
>I'd sure love to
These are not the same as
>I WILL invite her

>> No.17708939

>>17708903
this

>> No.17708988

I'm white like her and stinking up my homeland not someone elses.

>> No.17709006

>>17708933
>the only way to read is literaly
semantics, they can mean the same.

>> No.17709025

>>17701571
I'm not hated by the rest of /vt/ as much.

>> No.17709044

>>17706961
>Pekora's other persona stopped existing when she got hired fucktard
Ok? how is that relevant? because it sure as fuck doesn't stop fags on 5ch and NND from mentioning about her
Are you incapable of following conversations or just retarded?
>>17707407
Lmao what a fucking goalpost move, you went from:
>Mori bad because she has twitch :(
to
>We-well actually it's ok for other holos to have twitch channels AND stream on them because they only use it for watchalongs!!
>what you get from twitch is "friends" interaction and raids from her crew and twitch camgirls
There's literally stopping other this from happening to other holos (in fact it does happen)
To this day only ONE(1) Holo has streamed normal gameplay on twitch was fucking Miko and I don't see you fags sperging out about her lmao, after a while you have to admit just have a pathological hatred of Mori and use whatever the fuck you can to justify

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>>17709044

>> No.17709083

>>17709006
The intention behind the words she used is something like "since it's fine with you guys I'll invite her."

>> No.17709089

>>17708772
You oshi will soon be like Mel-ayame where she stream more often in her roommate account and only come back as Mori once a month just to collect your cuckbucks.

>> No.17709180

>>17709006
She didn't even say that she will invite her, she spoke as if she was a given in the collab from the beginning

>> No.17709250

>>17709089
And if worse comes to worst, a second Artia.

>> No.17709252

>>17709044
strawman fallacy for days.
you know my point, dont pretend to be dumb, or if you are really this dumb, read again from the start.

>> No.17709277

>>17709250
EN-Artia sounds like it's a land whale yapping

>> No.17709362

>>17708671
>>my hypothetical scenario > your hypothetical scenario
Nigger what hypothetical did I come up with? You literally made up a scenario in which Mori merely mentioning IM is exactly the same her setting up a collab and I called you retard for thinking that's how people organize things
> you don't invite
In what fucking world is mentioning that another person you know wants to play a game the akin to inviting them???
I'm 100% certain none of you have ever been in any sort of social situation ever

>> No.17709455

>>17709362
>I'm 100% certain none of you have ever been in any sort of social situation ever
dude stop you´re the one exploding here they wont listen

>> No.17709502

>>17703095
Did you have to use a wojak.

>> No.17709548

>>17709362
>I'm 100% certain none of you have ever been in any sort of social situation ever
Anon, stop, you're exposing yourself.

>> No.17709629

>>17708548
Yo, that's pretty good. The legs are a bit odd but I've coped with way weirder fetishes. (Looking at you Lamyficationists)

>> No.17709653

>>17709362
I feel like this is someone that isn't even a deadbeat and doesn't even watch Mori because he is just making shit up at this point, denying reality

>> No.17709660

>>17708564
>A fully grown adult that also need to keep her social image and word.
Literally NO ONE but the most derange schizo would angry at Irys for delaying again because of her health
>You will understand that when you growth up and have real social interaction and connection
We're talking about fucking streamer you speg lmao
If you unironically think Mori or Bae would be upset with her choosing to delay you genuinely know nothing about them much less even watch streams
>unless Mori(the one making the collab)
>(the one making the collab)
>replacing her role in the collab first, then IRyS (the one that get invited to the collab as guess)
anon-chama Irys is literally both the co-host and co-founder of the podcast
I'm not even gonna bother arguing with you any further cause it's painfully obvious you're a threadreader

>> No.17709679

>>17709044
been monitoring this thread and you anon have the worst comprehension of anything I’ve ever seen, either severe mental illness or very good deflective deadbeat bait I can’t tell

>> No.17709697

>>17709362
>I'm 100% certain none of you have ever been in any sort of social situation ever
>Let's meet up
>Ok
>I'll bring *person they never met*
If I did this to my parents they'd tell me to fuck off, if I did this to my friends they wouldn't show up. I don't know what kind of sperglord autist friend group you hang out with, but normal people tend to ASK if the other people are OK if a third party can join. It's especially scummy because she did this onstream.

>> No.17709944

>>17709180
>Irys you wanna play terraria? Bae wanna play terraria? I know another vtuber who want to play terraria, it'd be cool to play together someday
(In anon's schizo logic this the same as not only setting up a collab but also inviting IM to said hypothetical collab)
Also once again pretending like Irys, Bae, AND Im lack any personal-agency while assuming IM is even ok with collab with holomems besides Mori

>> No.17709950

>>17709660
>making up shit that the other anon ever said to shit on a point that never existed
Whew you should give arguing classes

>> No.17710003

>>17702615
Blame your oshi for being alcoholic.

>> No.17710007

>>17709944
You didn't even watch the clip. Stop arguing with this guy.

>> No.17710021

>>17709944
Anon it's obvious at this point you didn't watch the stream, hell you didn't even watch a clip
>Also once again pretending like Irys, Bae, AND Im lack any personal-agency while assuming IM is even ok with collab with holomems besides Mori
You know this is another point against Mori right?

>> No.17710074

>>17709697
Or I don't know, maybe they planned this already outside the stream and just made it public? Also there is absolutely no2 who wouldn't want to collab with IM thinking otherwise is delusional

>> No.17710098

>>17709944
Hey autist, link the time tag where she ASKS if ironmouse can join in the form of a question instead of outright stating that ironmouse will be part of the collab after Irys and Bae agree to the collab. Sorry for being so specific but you seem to be on the spectrum in combination with some form of brain damage.

>> No.17710100

>>17702615
>fuck up phenomenally
>fein inebriation in a feeble attempt to ward off criticism after unprofessional outburst
and her enablers will fall for it

>> No.17710161

>>17710074
Irys doesn't know her nor gives a shit about her, Bae does want to collab with her but Mori is not the one to decide when she does it.
>Or I don't know, maybe they planned this already outside the stream and just made it public?
Anon you're implying that the stream was scripted, because the way they said it wasn't exactly informing to the audience

>> No.17710176

>>17709502
I didn't have a skeleton crying

>> No.17710254

>>17709660
>>17709950
Im doubt that he goes to any class or even have real life social working experience desu. A literal schizo.

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>>17710176
Here to go

>> No.17710403

>>17704070
>spam misinformation like crazy
>jannies start deleting it
>OMG THE JANNIES ARE DEADNEATS
This kind of cope really makes antis look pathetic.

>> No.17710451

>>17710403
nah its only you
pathetic and lost

>> No.17710453

>>17710403
Tell me how I know you're new.

>> No.17710474

The whole Orc Schizo fiasco made me realize how few people it takes to look like there's widespread hate.

Makes me wonder how many Mori antis there actually are.

>> No.17710572

>>17710474
More than 0 is enough to make her lose her fucking mind for weeks onvend it seems.

>> No.17710593

>>17710403
Then try to justify this shit, newfagbeat>>17707671
God, you cuckbeats really ARE pathetic.

>> No.17710595

>>17710474
Far and few between. Most are just LARPing or shitposting.
The problem is that any fan who offers actual criticism of Mori are being automatically labeled as antis, making the number of antis appear greater than it actually is. This is a problem outside of this place as well btw.

>> No.17710629

>>17709455
>>17709548
>No u
stop samefagging
>>17709697
>>Let's meet up
>>Ok
>>I'll bring *person they never met*
Except this isn't actually happening you retard, because this entire hypothetical was made up in some schizoid anon's head in this same very fucking thread, there's no collab, IM isn't invited, all of this is literally just some schizo's conjecture
This is akin to me out of curiosity asking if you ever wanted to see movie-X, me offhandedly mentioning that another person I know that you don't also wants to see the same movie, then you suddenly sperging out because you presumed both 1.) That me asking if you wanted see a certain movie is the same as me inviting you to watch a movie together 2.) that me telling you about another person who also wants see the same movie as you is the same as me inviting them to our hypothetical movie date
Nobody in real life operates on this type of logic lmao

>> No.17710644

>>17710474
At least two. One for the condomsupachat, one for the cuck-edit.

>> No.17710674

>>17710572
It only took ONE (1) for her to make a song.

>> No.17710723

>>17710629
Get your autism checked out, it's terminal.

>> No.17710725

>>17710629
>Everything i doesn't like is schizo make up
>Multiple anon already point out how Mori literally emotional black mail the other two girl on stream, with some even give link and time.
Gosh, who the real schizo again ?

>> No.17710778

>>17710074
I don't understand the assumption that the girls are so timid that they'd be unwilling to turn down a collab invitation even if they don't want to be there.
>Let's collab sometime!
>collab never happens
This happens ALL the time. Not to mention that they talk behind the scenes more than we'll ever know. We don't even know how many collabs the girls have turned down offstream since we as the audience would have no need for that information.
Mori seems fairly close to Bae and IRyS. Is it not possible that they talked about collabing with IM offstream and Mori gave them multiple outs if they weren't interested? Also did everyone forget that thousands of qualifiers Mori has put out when discussing anything?
>It's okay if you don't like this thing. It's not for everyone.
>Don't force yourself to do this thing if you don't want to.
It took forever for Mori to build up the courage to ask her senpais to collab so is it really outside the realm of possibility that she'd be more understanding about collab timidness from others?

>> No.17710804

>>17710593
Why would someone explain schizo ramblings. You made up your own narrative . They all had counter jerks and jannies deleted worst stuff too. And ayame basically is irrelevant people just like to occasionally laugh at nonexistent chuubs

>> No.17710843

>>17709950
>making up shit that the other anon
Except I didn't make up shit?
In response to me saying "Irys would've delayed the podcast if she didn't fell up to it" he went some unhinged rant about her being forced to because absurd shit like "needing to keep her social image and word" while revealing that he no fucking clue what he was talking about since Irys is both the co-founder and partially responsible for making the collab

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>>17706382
>you're a schizo if you say that she can't even hold a fucking basic conversation in Japanese.
https://youtu.be/YTTnA4MQkg0?t=278
>NARUHODO
>NARUHODO
>NARUHODO

>> No.17710922

because everything is actually her fault, dumb braphog she made it too easy then she acts like she owns her haters lmaooooo.

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>>17710804
>Jannies deleted
Stopped reading right there because unlike you I was actually there when it happened.

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>>17710593
>Then try to justify this shit, newfagbeat
Sure. Show me which of these events had an entire timeline filled with misinformation spammed across the board ad nauseum.

>> No.17711017

>>17710629
Congrats you have autism.

>> No.17711102

>>17710629
What in fresh hell are you talking about?

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>>17701571
she claimed to want to break out of the "hololive bubble" to help indies and smaller creators, and with the exception of milky queen, only ends up interacting with twitch tubers and e celebs who already have massive followings.

she overreacts way too much. literally made a song about her antis and how silly and immature they are only to start a complete shit storm cuz of a funny drawing on twitter, embarrassing herself and getting downvoted on reddit

even worse, when she gets in these shitty moods it can impact the stream and make the experience worse for everyone (see the jump king stream after the connor akas) or she decides that today she'll be super awkward and weird as fuck in a collab (meme review, ender dragon stream, kiara king incident)

she still hasn't dropped her roommate. i really thought after inactivity and her declaring that she will put more effort into holo and that "season 2 mori" would be great she'd finally move on from it but guess not.

the worst part of it all is that she's SHOWN she can do better. season 2 mori was looking good. the ttrpg was great, she was playing games she wanted to play and seemed like she was genuinely having fun talking to genmates and other ENs. end of a life was a great song and it seemed her overall mood during streams was just better. but i guess she just decided to stop for some reason and regress into autism.

deadbeats will STILL defend her for this instead of wanting her to be better, sitting in their little bubble and calling any and all critique of her anti behavior. this really fucking sucks, she was my oshi for the longest time and it's sad to see her fuck everything up because she's either too stupid and/or stubborn to improve.

>t. former deadbeat

>> No.17711174

>>17710804
>>17710971
Check>>17710963
Literary too new.

>> No.17711191

>>17710098
>Hey autist, link the time tag where she ASKS if ironmouse can join in the form of a question instead of outright stating that ironmouse will be part of the collab after Irys and Bae agree to the collab.
Hey schizo could you send me an invite to the HoloEN discord? you clearly must be in it since you know this is actually a real collab that's happening and not just Mori off-handily saying it would be cool to play together?
This is why don't like arguing with schizos because their entire modus operandi is just imaging shit that's not actually real, getting really mad at it, then forcing you to try engage with their made up scenario

>> No.17711231

>>17711174
Okay? There's been hundreds upon hundreds of Mori anti threads created since /vt/'s inception.
Also I don't see a timeline anywhere.

>> No.17711274

>>17710021
>You know this is another point against Mori right?
How is your delusional perception of thinking Mori is some all powerful force that nobody can say "No" to, a point against her? Genuinely curious

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>>17710804
>i wasn't there to see it, so it must be schizo ramblings.
Good lord

>> No.17711301

>>17711140
>the worst part of it all is that she's SHOWN she can do better. season 2 mori was looking good. the ttrpg was great, she was playing games she wanted to play and seemed like she was genuinely having fun talking to genmates and other ENs. end of a life was a great song and it seemed her overall mood during streams was just better. but i guess she just decided to stop for some reason and regress into autism.
This is the worst part. I LOVED her season 2 Mori content. It's almost as if the devil whispered in her ear to drop it and fuck it up.

>> No.17711318

>>17707187
>Everyone was shitting on TT for the shit they did, not on Mori
Lol, Lmao I see we're at the point we just start lying

>> No.17711339

>>17711274
It's because a lot of her antis project their own insecurities into the situation. They remember times where they felt "forced" into a social interaction with someone they didn't know or like, thus Mori must be doing the same thing to other holos.

>> No.17711371

>>17707187
>Everyone was shitting on TT for the shit they did, not on Mori
Shit like this makes Mori antis seem like delusional retards.

>> No.17711417

>>17709252
>strawman fallacy for days.
How is it a strawman?
>you know my point
I don't even know which anon you are

>> No.17711469

>>17711140
>she claimed to want to break out of the "hololive bubble" to help indies and smaller creators, and with the exception of milky queen, only ends up interacting with twitch tubers and e celebs who already have massive followings.
She did a few holstar collabs then forgot they existed and moved on to E-celebs. Knowing what her true personality is like now I wouldn't be surprised if she just used them to piss off unicorns.

>> No.17711500

>>17711318
He right anon, peoples only really shitting on Mori when she defence TT over her fan and Hololive. Oh and when she self destruct too.

>> No.17711617

>>17711191
Hey you know that rule all holos have to not mention anyone else except if they mention them first to prevent drama?
Hilarious how Mori threw that out the window by mentioning a third party even though irys has never even acknowledged the existence of vtubers outside of hololive.
Irys should have been like "great I'll email Alex Jones and ask if he's free". That would have totally been okay.

>> No.17711633

>>17711469
>She did a few holstar collabs then forgot they existed
Wasn't Mori the only one in her entire branch to collab with a holostar period at that time? Not only did she do 3 collabs with one, she even created an original song AND did a remix contest for that song instead of one of her own songs from her new EP.
It seems...odd to handwave this as her forgetting that holostars existed when she's interacted with them more than the rest of EN.
>I wouldn't be surprised if she just used them to piss off unicorns.
Huh? Mori talked about wanting to collab with holostars ages before the collab....

>> No.17711662

>>17711140
>this really fucking sucks, she was my oshi for the longest time and it's sad to see her fuck everything up because she's either too stupid and/or stubborn to improve.
I feel the same, you put it way better than I did though. I remember two things that happened around when Mori 2.0 went downhill. 1) Succubus bar. 2) Doom Eternal stream where she got a phonecall and had to end the stream quickly. It seems her mental went down around then, but for all I know she was just really good at faking Mori 2.0 and it drained her energy.

>> No.17711666

>>17711633
Link her most recent mention of them. Good luck.

>> No.17711669

>>17710725
>>Everything i doesn't like is schizo make up
Yes, you're literally upset about Mori hypothetically inviting IM to an hypothetical collab
>Multiple anon
Cute ESL
>Multiple anon already point out how Mori literally emotional black mail the other two girl on stream
Literally only one anon used the phrase "emotional blackmail" >>17710725 and it wouldn't surprise me if you were him lmao
Also to unironically compare Mori saying it would be cool if they all played together to "emotional black mail" is genuinely deranged
Not even going to bother replying any further cause it's obvious you're a socially inept retard more interested in making up shit to be offended about rather attempt to argue an actual point

>> No.17711731

>>17711339
You're delusional.

>> No.17711812

>>17711617
>Hey you know that rule all holos have to not mention anyone else except
This is a chat rule retardchama, not a rule for holos
Not even gonna bother responding to the rest because it looks like you just trying get offended on Irys and Bae's behalf lmao

>> No.17711872

>>17710963
>I was actually there when it happened.
Clearly you weren't since all those thread wind up getting deleted lol

>> No.17711934

>>17711669
NTA. So you have to use the phrase emotional blackmail to refer to it?

>> No.17711948

>>17711666
Literally her NYR stream
Please at least pretend to watch streams

>> No.17711959

>>17711872
>He doesn't know anyone can look up the threads on the archives and see that they weren't deleted
Go back where you came from, redditor. You can't recover from this.

>> No.17712013

>>17711662
Did you forget about the second TT collab?

>> No.17712576

>>17712013
I ignored it and didn't watch, but you're right, there was another one around that time.

>> No.17712586
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>>17711140
>she claimed to want to break out of the "hololive bubble" to help indies and smaller creators, and with the exception of milky queen, only ends up interacting with twitch tubers and e celebs who already have massive followings.
Why do people blame Mori this instead of management?
TT was a shoe-in cause they work for Kadowaka, Management seemed cool with Vhojo considering they OK'd Kiara's collab Nyanners (and potential collab with Veibae) and Mori's IM collabs, quicker than they OK'd Mori's Milky collab and Ina's Pikamee collab
It seems people like to selectively forget management is incompetent and make dumb decisions when it allows them to shit on Mori
I also find it a kinda suspicious you call yourself a former """"Deadbeat"""" but you completely have forgotten she held two separate music contest for sole purpose of showing off people's remixes/covers, forget birthday video she made for YFU Baby, Forgot both of her collab song with Boogie Voxx, and forgot she's featured on Amalee's upcoming album, very selectively memory you have there """deadbeat"""

>> No.17712666

>>17712586
>people like to selectively forget management is incompetent
NTA but this is like inside info that can't be used in an argument.

>> No.17712837

>>17712586
>Mori white knight knows when holos requested collabs and the total time elapsed before said collabs happened
Jchad? Why are you calling yourself incompetent.

>> No.17713522

>>17701571
she continue associates herself with wrong people, I'd rather be alone for eternity than do that.
at first, i think her interview with TT is just professional matter, but it turns out she keeps collabing with them and even defended them on stream.
unlike marine,who immediately blocked mizuryu kei and gura shutting down callmecarson to avoid more drama

>> No.17713718

>>17713522
Because those guys were random strangers? TT guys actually friends living in same city working in same industry? People she can relate to and not forced collabs with people that don't even want you and have mastered being fake . Truth is jps don't actually want to collab with Ens and it rarely leads to quality content

>> No.17713886

>>17705718
>Mori is tired of Hololive bs/her fanbase
Then she should graduate.

>> No.17713995

>>17707047
Noone should collab with those retards, vtuber or not.

>> No.17714169

more caliper did seven eleven never forget sir thank you sir

>> No.17714818

>>17713995
Why not? Most people like em and their collabs weren't empty waste of time. Your reasons no doubt are illogical cringe

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