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Are you guys ready?

>> No.17633103

>>17632420
Ehh, I was more interested in Vox collab, I think this one won't be interesting at all.

>> No.17633544

very large very hard great white

>> No.17633596

>>17632420
Kson is overly courteous and well behaved when she is a guest in a stream hosted by someone she isn't very familiar with. I don't see this being very funny.

>> No.17633690

>>17632420
Sure, why not?

>> No.17639272
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>>17632420
It will be fun and chill. You know, enjoyment. As a result, it won't draw much attention on /vt/, because it won't have any good rrat food. There will be no major yab or drama. Even if something interesting came of it, it will be buried under 20 threads of something marginally-silly that some HoloEN says.
I am completely fine with that. I will enjoy it either way.

>> No.17639401

It'll probably be ok. I don't think Kson is very interesting.
Verdict: Put stream on 2nd monitor.

>> No.17639637

>>17633596
>I don't see this being very funny.
This. I'm looking forward to the Pikamee episode though.

>> No.17639720

>>17633596
What the fuck did she get out of going indie?

>> No.17640414
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>>17639720
Peace of mind, more autonomy, and less bureaucracy. Things were lost, things were gained, and she seems happy with the choice. Also her model can puff its cheeks, which is magically adorable.

>> No.17640473

>>17639720
At least 30% more of a cut

>> No.17640643

>>17640473
It's more like +75% when you do the math.
Google takes 30%, Cover takes an unknown amount, but expected to be about 30%.
So going from 40% to 70% is adding 30 raw points, but relative to a previous 40 going up by 30 is a 75% increase.

>> No.17640655

>>17633103
ok dramafag

>> No.17640698
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17640698

>vshojo with kson
>vshojo with holoen
>vshojo with pikamee
>vshojo with trash talk
>vshojo with nijien

Wait a minute, isn't Vshojo reaping the rewards of all brand/streamer rivalries by collabing with everyone while holoen, kson and nijisanji are mutually in gray zones where it's harder for them to collab with each other and benefit from mutual parasitism that is birthed from collabs? It feels like Vshojo is really cleaning up here while holobronies, changs, nijiniggers and other fanbases are eager to tear each other's throats out.

>> No.17640770

>2 vtubers I don't like or watch.
Don't care.

>> No.17640794

>>17640698
>mutual parasitism
"all collabs are leeching" was supposed to be a meme, not something you actually believe

>> No.17640958

>>17640794
Mutual parasitism means they both benefit from exposure to each other's fanbases, it's a good thing and that's the point.

>> No.17641029

>>17640473
>>17640643
Her superchats and memberships are dramatically lower than as Coco, who was dramatically inclining towards the end anyway, so it is undoubtedly a paycut. In addition she should have waited for the 2nd anniversary to cash in while building up the Kson network further before leaving.

>> No.17643491

>>17640698
This situation likely works the opposite way you're thinking though. The other parties probably stand to gain more since they get exposure to a new audience on Twitch where Mouse is averaging over 10k viewers at this point. While Mouse is getting what? Maybe half of a smaller fanbase showing up for a stream where she isn't really the one in the spotlight?

>> No.17645263

>>17640770
then why are you here

>> No.17645498

>speak of the devil
uhhh wasn't that Vox's line?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdABx8gOhSs&t=29

>> No.17645706

I said, months ago, that when she quit hololive Kson should have joined Nijisanji. Everyone said "that's dumb, Kson is WAY too big for Nijisanji!"
But the reality is that without a group to do collabs with, you are just going to melt away. You need a group, even indies are forming groups. And when you are big, you have all of this bargaining power, you can make a really advantageous contract. I think she should have joined up back then, but even more so now.

If she joins Vshojo I think that's alright too. But I just don't like them very much.

>> No.17645760

>>17645498
You're right Ironmouse didn't exist before vox's debut

>> No.17645805

>>17645706
>even indies are forming groups
Indies aren't really forming companies or orgs though. It's more so they formed cliques. Though that might be what you were talking about.

>> No.17645823

>>17643491
Mouse is getting exposure to Kson's donation base. Not all viewers are the same quality you know, some are more valuable than others

>> No.17645870

100% sure KSON is going to join VShojo. They offer WAY more freedom in terms of content with probably close to 0 restrictions. They also have easier access to collabs anyways. Hololive needs to stop acting like an idol company and let their talents do whatever.

>> No.17646034

>>17645823
I mean maybe but I'm pretty sure she's just doing it because she likes kson
>>17645870
I can't see this happening. If she ever did decide to join a company again then it probably would be them like you said.
But I'm pretty certain she wants to stay indie even if it means being less popular.

Also I don't even know if vshojo would want her to join. They like her but I don't think they want to accidentally piss off any zhangs if they have any aspirations for being more than just an EN company.

>> No.17646164

>>17646034
I understand that she wants to be an indie. Why? Maybe for freedom or something?

But I say that getting the ability to collab with who you want is even better. When you're part of a group, you can do your own thing all you want. But you also have access to all these people that you can reach out to as well. The amount of people in nijisanji is huge, she would have access to ALL those people if she wants.

>> No.17646230
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>>17640698
You cracked the code anon

>> No.17646516

Why is Ironmouse so popular with everyone?

>> No.17647150

>>17645706
>>17646164
You do know that Nijisanji is full of chinks so she'll still get blackroomed

>>17645870
>Kson will join VShojo
More like nope. She seems more interested in forming her own group.

>> No.17648302

>>17646516
Monkey self-inserts

>> No.17650416

>>17647150
>She seems more interested in forming her own group.
that's what you've been saying for the past what, 5 months?

>> No.17650760

>>17650416
If Kson wanted to join VShojo she can at any time. She has direct connections to Melody, one of its founders. But instead she rather associate herself with VOMS and/or saving 2view indies.
And the "forming her own group" claim isn't baseless, she'd been talking about forming a "Kson Gang"

>> No.17652681

>>17640958
That's called a symbiotic relationship, not mutual parasitism.

>> No.17652717

>>17645870
Why would she join Vshojo? What can they offer her?

>> No.17652730

>>17652681
it's the same shit but the latter sounds more condescending, perfectly fitted for shitpost

>> No.17652790
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She is in a good mood lately, so she should be more proactive during conversation.

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>>17652790
>>17652790
I know she'll use her standard model but one day she is going to do an interview or major collab as Chibison and I am going to love it to pieces!

>> No.17655947

>>17632420
ready.

>> No.17655984

True or false: Ironmouse is only as popular as she is because she's a sick girl who, intentionally or otherwise, milks pity.

>> No.17656676

>>17655984
False.

>> No.17659077

>>17632420
I’m looking forward to it, I think they’ll have great chemistry

>> No.17660397

>>17645706
Why you faggot always falseflag as nijifag? We never ask for kson, cuz that just bring unnecessary drama

>> No.17660491

>>17655984
False. she's hilarious and sings like few can. I'm laughing or smiling 90% of the time she's live, without a single pity prompt, especially when she's going hysteric about something
.

>> No.17660566

>>17655984
She is purely saviourfag bait, she talks about men all the time and was lusting over men since the start. She is by far worse than Mori, but Vshojofags are cucks.

>> No.17662567

>>17660566
Just spotted the ignorant / non-watcher holofag. She barely talks about her condition. Congrats buddy, you get a cookie

>> No.17662639

>>17662567
When did I say anything about her talking about her condition? She talked and explained about it multiple times already, everyone knows she is sick and pity her. She is saviourfag bait. Also fucking funny how you can't say anything about her being all over men.

>> No.17662946

>>17632420
>shit on small indies
>collab with big indies
Why are vshojo so hypocritical?

>> No.17663172

>>17662639
She is not milking her condition for views you idiot. If you just randomly tune in for a stream you will probably never knew she had anything, that's why people still to this day learn about it. I don't talk about her being all over men because I am not kid like you. I don't give a fuck, good for her and good for every girl out there. Companionship is healthy, maybe you should go out of your mamas basement and realize it for yourself

>> No.17664066

>>17633596
>>17639272

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzh_tePN6o8

>> No.17664295

>>17664066
??

>> No.17664320

>>17640698
Big Japanese companies vs small American company. Please understand.

>> No.17667049

>>17652717
Benefits of a corpo like a big community, legal and tech help but without any of the shackles that JP corpos impose. All at the cost of giving them a share of merch and sponsors(?) dunno if sponsors are included but probably.

>>17650760
The problem again with Kson joining them is that VShojo is located in Twitch and has an EN fanbase.

>> No.17669302

>>17632420
Nux was right

>> No.17669698

>>17633596
Kson was never funny

>> No.17669749

>>17652717
Whores strong together

>> No.17669828

>>17669302
>>17669698
>>17669749
Oh! It's time to rest in the rice fields

>> No.17669944

>>17669828
Here comes the anti kson defamation league

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