/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

I hate it when people hold EN vtubers to the same strict guidelines JP vtubers face, there's a cultural difference between the two and just because something is taboo in Japan doesn't mean it can't ever be done by someone overseas

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
meds

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
Western culture is garbage. That is the whole reason I started watching vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

"Being a whore" is not a cultural difference, it's a personality flaw

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
You're a female born and raised in the United States of America.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
Yas queen, slay! We need to break down the barriers set up by those backwards Japanese misogynists!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
In truth, hololive should have never been introduced in the west. Now that we have it, we can't do anything but treat EN and JP as separate entities who share a similar logo. If you can come to accept this, than you wouldn't feel the urge to cry about it everytime. It's what I've done and I don't enjoy JP any less. Simply ignore EN, or pretend to not know English.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422230
I think what OP meant was.
Cuckolding is western culture.

[Anonymous No.]

Not wrong. EN was made for western normalfags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
yeah yeah, incels are toxic, etc.. etc.. we need male vtubers to fuck the EN girls, etc... I get it

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
Unironically true.
Unicorns here don't understand that JP and EN are entirely different markets with different likes and taboos. They are in the minority among EN viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
We are the ones who decide what is and isn't taboo you retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422633
>we need male vtubers to fuck the EN girls
The only ones I've seen making this statement explicitly have been unicorns and incels. Do you live to fear men or do you subconsciously get a hard on for cheating?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422440
>>17422579
>>17422633
why so angry?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
except you're wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
I told you we're being raided by discord feminists.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422822
Simply put, if you are not Japanese, you have no right to push Japanese Idol culture onto anyone, this makes you no less cancerous than animefags trying to force their hobby down everyone's throats. It's a niche, so it should stay that way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
American "culture" needs to be cleansed from this earth. NIPPON BANZAI.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422230
pic very related

[Anonymous No.]

I don't get the unicorn mentality. Do they really think they might one day sleep with their oshi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17423079
It's impossible to tell if someone is angry over the internet. It's all in your head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422440
this but unironically

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
There are no "strict guidelines" and Cover has never blocked male collabs. It's the girls actively choosing to appeal to an otaku audience. If you don't like that culture, you're free to watch Nijisanji.

>>17423329
>using Lamy to make this point

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
The funny thing is, /vt/ holds EN vtubers to much stricter guidelines than 5ch holds JP vtubers never mind Japanese normalfags. There seems to be a whole crowd of EOPs and third worlders here whose ideas of Japanese culture are based on Love Live or something and as such completely detached from reality but that doesn't stop them from enforcing it on their EN chuubas.

[Anonymous No.]

>worksfor japanese idol company
>keep calling themselves idols and saying seiso jokes
gee I wonder why people are mad

[Anonymous No.]

>>17423198
There's a big market for it so it's gonna happen like it or not

[Anonymous No.]

All women are whores, even your precious nipchuubas. Don't kid yourselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17423463
Fubuki and Suisei get some pushback for male collabs but they at least stay very professional and do them sparingly. Towa is the most hated Holo in Japan and Matsuri is widely regarded as a lost cause.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17423459
>using Lamy to make this point
got a problem with that fag?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17423463
>/vt/ holds EN vtubers to much stricter guidelines than 5ch holds JP vtubers never mind Japanese normalfags
Good, maybe they should focus on the real issues like us instead of getting upset for Marine putting a doujin in the fridge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17423518
>t. coping roastie

[Anonymous No.]

Mori leaning hard...

[Anonymous No.]

>>17423466
>gee I wonder why people are mad
Mental illness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
no one asked you, deadbeat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17423198
>Simply put, if you are not Japanese, you have no right to push Japanese Idol culture onto anyone, this makes you no less cancerous than animefags trying to force their hobby down everyone's throats. It's a niche, so it should stay that way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17423484
>There's a big market for it
Remember when homostar collab beggars on reddit upvoted the thread anouncing the mumei stars collab 5 times more than it had views.
Remember when ironmouse/Mori had less views than Moona/Risu.
Not only do you faggots not superchat or buy merch, you also outright don't watch streams and only watch clips. You degenerates bring in 0 income.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17423463
/vt/ has this perception of idols that really does not coincide with what japs think idols are and should be. In a literal sense, we are posers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
agreed, I fucking hate it when EOPs interrupt twitter conversations or post tagged r18 art. glad me and OP finally got so many people to agree with us!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
NijiEN streams are more entertaining than 90% of JP. Maybe stop watching lazy streamers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17423760
>you also outright don't watch streams
Correct, I watch vods because I can never catch streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
as a yukimin i support the end of the idol culture that is hurting my wife

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422822
Explain this to me cuckold. If EN was made solely for the western audience why do their talents regularly release original songs primarily in nipponese and why do they create merchandise solely with the japs in mind?
You don't have to respond. I know you don't have an answer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17423987
>watch our whores to get away from yours!
nijikeks are pathetic
go away

[Anonymous No.]

I wish EN copied JP by not shitting on everything or acting sarcastic all the time. I hate this quality of EN vtubers. I hate sarcasm and irony and thinking that everything is cringe

[Anonymous No.]

>>17423614
>>17424039
I know this is bait but i'm sincerely interested in figuring out what an anti-idolfag yukimin would be like. Must be like a unicorn deadbeat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17424193
cringe

[Anonymous No.]

>>17424121
Sure keep watching trash and crying it's trash every single day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
The whole reason I even came to enjoy EN vtubers to begin with is that I wanted to understand what the fuck they were saying while still being under a JP corpo and rules umbrella, is it so hard to understand punigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
There's literally no reason to watch HololiveEN if they arent going to behave like an actual Hololive (JP) member. Or do you like endless Pokemon streams?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17424114
Maybe because japanese content and merchandise is popular to a broader weeb audience? You don't have to be a unicorn to enjoy Jap content you retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
>>17423463
Go ahead and tell me what are these "strict guidelines" that you made up in your unmedicated brain.
I don't need to know jackshit about japan to not want to see grifter faggots and repulsive whores interact with holos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17424114
because its a japanese company? isnt it obvious? even the journey of a thousand years was hard to approve and needed good feedback from the myth holoEN halloween song, they have their producers/lirycists and are japanese ofcourse they will make japanese music

[Anonymous No.]

>>17424449
>oh yeah the triple xl wearing westerners are enjoying those medium jap shirts,
Don't be retarded. Just concede.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17424259
watching nijishit would not solve that problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17423463
We're all imitating japanese culture here but only to the scope of our limited knowledge. So we fail at it and act like idol culture is not being in the same space with males.
Another example is that this board looked at a single thread in 5ch and decided yeah, being an anti is vtuber culture and decided to turn their identities into drama babies. It's a neat concept because the Japanese aren't even a tenth of hateful as the west. Futaba-channel or other regular spaces would be terrified of here, the equivalent of a small circle called the matome niggers.
If anything, the ones going on about muh idol culture (excluding the mori fuck-up) are closer to chinese fans than a regular japanese fan

[Anonymous No.]

>Joins japanese company

Guys why do they get held to japanese standards?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17423760
EN with similar number of subs will always have fewer concurrent viewers because their viewers are from all around the world in different timezones. The market for "watered down" idols is quickly growing in the west, reminder that Mori is 6th most superchatted vtuber in the world for 2021. And Vshojo had also exploded.

>>17424114
>solely
Show me where I said that retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>17424810
You implied it you retard. They have those standards in JP to keep the JP audience happy. Implying they should or do have different standard you imply it's solely for westerners.

[Anonymous No.]

Dont collab with grifting third party leeches with 0 professionalism is a strict guideline?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17424810
ID
HAD
MORE
VIEWERS

[Anonymous No.]

>>17423618
Marine never really did recover from that, both her health and stress have gone off the rails since then for the past 10 months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17424973
I said that EN and JP are different markets, not that they don't try to appeal to both. Can't tell if you're ESL or just braindead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422189
Western culture isn't that different from Japanese culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
Some cultures are different than others and what you said is not an argument

[Anonymous No.]

Just wanna let the three(3) mori antis on this thread who have been spamming non-stop with zoomer lingo, skelly edits, and non-stop post about lean, drugs, trash taste, vshojo collabs, cucks, Conn*r/Mori/, deadbeat, whichever it is that we all know it's you every time you post.
Yes, we recognize your posting style. No, you trying to change it doesn't matter, because you sound fucking deranged no matter what you type and half the time you literally sound like a rambling homeless person.
No, you don't make people upset. I'm actually worried about your mental health. You've been non-stop posting for weeks. You somehow end up sounding more insane than zhangs, and that's saying something.
Nobody cares about you. Nobody will ever care about you. We know when you samefag. We know when you post on anything mori related. One or two of you don't even watch streams, you fucking faggots. We do not think you're funny. We do not think your posts are funny. We do not care. Take your medication. Anger and envy are bad emotions and it has literally fried your brain. You're not laughing because you're happy, you're laughing because you have literally cooked your brain. Take your medication.
Here's the attention you desperately desire, I expect a whore like you to salivate over it like a diseased, starved dog. Bow down and beg for more, you slut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17425148
i'm not going to humor this retarded argument anon, no holoID is not even close to being on the same scale of popularity as vshojo you utter fucking retard
>b-but in this instance if you look at these shitty metrics i cherry-picked uhhhh
kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17424678
But it does? Nobody in NijiEN sucks Connor's cock or begs to collab with TT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17424810
Vshojo appeals to ironic weebs and twitchfaggots, the last people we would want in Hololive's audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
So being a cuck is part of American culture?
Damn amerimutts are even more brain-dead than i thought they were.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17425492
they are literally about to collab with moistcr1tikal you fucking idiot
jesus christ how pathetic

[Anonymous No.]

>>17423463
> 5ch

[Anonymous No.]

>>17425463
Mucho texto.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17425492
NijiEN literally collabs with ecelebs all the time. There is one holo that is a whore, but NijiEN is full of whores

[Anonymous No.]

>>17425148
Yeah during one stream, versus years long pattern.
And another thing is the explosion of NijiEN guys.

>>17425524
And it works. Just saying that it seems that's what the West wants.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
> MUHHH IDOLLL CULTUREEE REEEEEEEE
> MORIII WHOOOOREEEE REEE
> tries to cancel her
> end up boosting her popularity
> WAHHHH SHE'S DESTROYINGG HOLOLIVE REEEEEEE
life of a unicorn

[Anonymous No.]

>>17424193
Sarcasm is very western thing. Not to say it doesn't exist in Japanese culture, but it is rare and nowhere near as prevalent. Wishing that westerners be less sarcastic because it makes you angry is pretty retarded and is like forcing someone to stop using a fork and spoon in favor of chopsticks simply because it doesn't conform with the way you believe food should be consumed. This argument is especially retarded if you are a westerner trying impose japanese customs to another westerner. Not even the japanese care about such things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422189
Modern Western culture is garbage. Traditional Western culture is the greatest in the world. Reject the Enlightenment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17425593
>>17425718
You retards they do large group collabs sometimes. Without sucking their cock or even interacting much. They also do 4-5h collabs and act like friends unlike fucking HoloEN where it's 1h forced collabs everybody wants to end as fast as possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17425793
>Idol culture boogeyman again
Easiest way to spot redditors

[Anonymous No.]

>>17425793
>ends up boosting her popularity
that never happened though. Why do cuckbeats wanna twist the situation like Mori won or something. She didnt gain shit by making a fool out of herself

[Anonymous No.]

>>17425793
>> end up boosting her popularity

Things that never happened. Mori is barely making half as much as few months ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17425793
EN was a mistake

[Anonymous No.]

>>17425911
go back to yout MGTOW echo chamber

[Anonymous No.]

>>17425463
Make that 4

[Anonymous No.]

>>17425904
>they're only whores sometimes!
stop. please just stop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17425904
Yo. I agree with you. HoloEN is full of talents who dont work well together and its incredible how EOPs tend to think collabs are always a garbage idea. They aren't, the EN is just really bad at them compared to JP.
That doesnt change the fact that NijiEN is full of whores though. I watch holoJP exactly because its still the perfect formula. No whores and they are actually entertaining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17426133
> WAHHH IT'S NOT A PURE JAPANESE SEISO VIRGIN MAIDEN, WHORE REEEEEE

[Anonymous No.]

>>17425907
It's not enlightenment, it's the USA and it's "cultural" colonialization of the west and parts of the east.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17426250
And your problem is...?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17425463

[Anonymous No.]

>>17426089
There is a big difference between collabing with some e-celeb once every few months in a large collab other group organized and simping for TT ever since you became a vtuber and insulting your fans who don't like that.

But you are obviously retarded so whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17426270
No. Those are symptoms. The Enlightenment is the disease. It must be erased.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17426298
i have nudes of miko's roommate

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422440
yes, thank you for finally understanding

[Anonymous No.]

>>17425463
Sanest deadbeat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17426133
Anon HoloJP has plenty of members collabing with dudes and the #1 GFE is a former camwhore who stripped for people live.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17425463
And these people think they are the ones calling out schizos?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17425463
everyone on this board knows about these faggots, but you really let them live rent free don't you?

[Anonymous No.]

I only want entertainment and funny. Average western vtuber is less funny and entertaining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17426635
>the #1 GFE is a former camwhore who stripped for people live.
EOP secondary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17424973

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>17426635
Dumb EOP. Stop talking about shit you dont understand anything about. No one cares about your opinion anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422822
>They are in the minority among EN viewers
>if I keep stating this blatant bullshit maybe it'll be true!

Keep huffing that copium and remember she will never ever fuck you

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
>I hate it when people hold EN vtubers to the same strict guidelines JP vtubers face
Fuck off and die twitch leech.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17426778
>>17426998
t. MGTOW incel

[Anonymous No.]

>>17426714
Good opinion, keep watching non-western vtubers and ignore the rest. While you're at it, don't complain about western vtubers on this board since you don't watch them. Or at least I hope you don't watch them. You wouldn't want to watch content you actively hate, would you?

[Anonymous No.]

This is so blatantly offsite non-vtuber watchers pushing their shitty takes from twitch dramafagging it's not even funny.
It's 1:1 what vtweeters did except here they're faking concern for english speakers they imagine, wrongly, that they can leech from. (literally everyone but mori either ignore you outright or barely veil their disgust)

[Anonymous No.]

>>17427078
Can't you talk like a human being instead of saying the same buzzwords over and over again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17427105
I'll complain about whatever I like whether I experience it or not and there's not a heckin thing you can do about it.

[Anonymous No.]

Twitchkiddies opinions aren't even worth baiting replies to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17427226
And then the 14 years old child is going to say the same buzzword to reply to this because he can't have a actual argument and needs to keep repeating the same words he doesn't even know the meaning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17425463

[Anonymous No.]

>>17426741
>the same 4 members in a branch that has 30
Are you the same fag that says Hololive is the same as vShojo because Marine exists?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17424193
That's why I can't stand any EN vtubers from non-jp companies.
They totally lack any sincerity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17426044
and what's that? 4chan? hahahaha

[Anonymous No.]

>>17424193
I blame Marvel and Wheadon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17426778
>unicorns are the majority!
If this were true, male collabs wouldn't exist, mentioning males on stream wouldn't happen, and GFE would be the norm across the majority of vtubers. But this simply isn't true. Male collabs exist, and GFE vtubers are very few in quantity simply because your market is not very large. Why is that? Because you are the minority. Maybe leave 4chan before thinking you are in the majority? Or if it makes you sleep better at night, stick to vtubers who do pander to you and stuck the fuck up about the rest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17424193
Being seen as "cool", above it all and not caring about anything has been a promoted western value for decades now. This has poisoned every bit of sincerity out of EN performers, everything needs to have this layer of irony and sarcasm, and this is especially jarring when contrasted with JP performers (for example, really apparent when putting ENs in culturally japanese contexts like vtubing, playing an anime girl) who have either mostly retained their childlike innocence or at least have the proper japanese work ethic to put up and play their role properly, without having to remind the audience every five seconds how they're "not actually an anime idol, haha, that'd be like, so criiiiinge my dawg, amirite"

[Anonymous No.]

>>17428181
most unicorns are silent, they will just look the other way most of the time, unless its clear in thei face, at most they will dislike, downvote on reddit and stop watching.

[Anonymous No.]

It's funny how desperate you're getting trying to push this.
None of the jp watchers will ever tolerate your shit, very few of the ENs will and Mori is already threading on thin-ice by trying to circumvent management deciding collabs onstream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
You're right. Since JP vtubers have to do lives and shit, the least the EN vtubers can do is have a consistent streaming schedule.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17425524
Sorry to burst your bubble anon, but majority of people that watch Hololive vtubers also watch Vshojo. Thinking that there is a different audience is absurd and dumb, check any comment section on YouTube, or Plebbit and you can easily tell that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17426270
Except that the USA banned 'degenerate' shit in 1950s Japan that existed in prewar Japan and France is the primary 'spreader of enlightenment'. You're just a seething Europoor untermensch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17426348
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>17428669
lol if you think anyone of the people actually membering holos, buying merch and watching archives long term are vshojo troons.
There is barely any overlap outside of the "ironic weeb" contingent of moris.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17428281
You'll never be Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>17428910
>Source: the voices in my head

[Anonymous No.]

>>17425463
make it 5

[Anonymous No.]

>>17423245
JESUS JESUS

[Anonymous No.]

>>17428988
Source: the fact that every single video you troons hype has less views than even relatively unpopular normal videos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17429062
>source: trust me bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>17429916
>homostar hype on plebbit 5x the amount of actual video views
>bruh look mori is totally going to collab with -our gal- after all this drama to dab on the incels!
>less than 8k viewers total even less than mouse got

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that most of the apologists are western whore and tranny and it's normal that they'd want to corrupt the idol culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
fucking hell cuckbeats are the most retarded braindead fanbase ever

[Anonymous No.]

>>17430190
luxiem and the mori drama brought a lot of them

[Anonymous No.]

>>17426298
>posting a whore
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>17432175
The dog is a woman

[Anonymous No.]

>>17432175
OH NO NO NO 35p bros?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17432267
Not a 35piss but all those happened so long ago that everyone already knows them and she has shifted away from the old desperate days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422230
There’s so many whores in JP holy shit JP fags are delusional. JP paved the way for male collars too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17425877
someone post the tweet by the nip who replied to cover asking what was leaked on La+ broadcasts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
>Kroniiggers are cuckolds
SHOCK

[Anonymous No.]

>>17423711
unicorn

[Anonymous No.]

>>17425705
Basado

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
This. Fuck idoltards, they can just stop watching EN and fuck off back to >>>/jp/ if they want, they don't have to keep anti-ing the ENs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17434182
Kill yourself twitchleech.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17434182
shut the fuck up and fuck off cuckbeat. stay in your general and be happy with your cucked clique

[Anonymous No.]

>>17434182
https://files.catbox.moe/qe3nui.mp4

[Anonymous No.]

>>17434182
Or could someone not bring infection to HoloEN.She can go there if she wants, but don't bring it home. If it's unbearable for any vtuber the conditions on the company they work in, they can always jump ship and be free of such suffering and collab with anyone they want then. Just don't fuck it for everyone else.

Also I wait with anticipation when there is HOLOES and they just don't respect the shitty EOL taboos and you come back here crying about something sounding like your n-word being thrown around casually and all the other 999999 things similar that will happen.

But MUH CULTURAL DIFFERENCE RESPECT now.

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking twitchfags almost make you miss the zhangs. At least they didn't pretend to be normalfags with their anti bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
Westerners (ie: R*ddits, twitch retards, twitter trannies/alphabet people) are such passionless retards who hate being out of their comfort zones
News flash, everything is literally okay without you in it, you don't like it? Leave and fuck off, you are the parasite. Your mentality of walk into something that's perfectly fine as is and operates functionally, and your desire to throw shit on the walls till it changes because you feel uneasy being among something foreign and then eventually leave because you're bored is why you're a miserable sack of shit existence no one wants to associate with besides your wallet

I'm not a unicorn nigger, I love HoloStars, I love Hololive, I love Nijisanji, I literally hate (you), you who bitches about this hobby because IT'S NOT NORMIE ENOUGH FOR MEEEE like Mori Calliope does internally everyday she wakes up and realizes she got hired into a fucking idol centric company

[Anonymous No.]

>>17426751
>>17426725
Holy fucking cope. You know you can still watch those videos right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17437108
Go back to watching Moris Jump King archives

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
Have you considered that your culture sucks cock?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17437108
It's only one clip, where she was playing strip rock paper scissors with korekore (So not "random guys") where they both went off camera to strip and weren't supposed to show anything (Otherwise they'd get banned) but in her classic retardation she forgot she was on camera. The original clip was uploaded on pandora.tv first and the title explained the situation. Dumb guraonly secondary retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17425355
ror
rumao

[Anonymous No.]

>>17425463
Here's your (you). Guess I'm #6
t. ex downbad ghostbeat

[Anonymous No.]

Yeah, EN vtubers are whores by default. Can’t love and worship them like JP counterparts

[Anonymous No.]

>>17439050
shut the fuck up cuckbeat you're not fooling anybody.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17428181
>GFE market is not very large
lol
rumao

[Anonymous No.]

>>17438144
It was Miko right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17422127
I only watch JPs and I don't speak japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17439888
Rushia. Miko's alleged JAV was a bunch of edited pictures spread by some shitty NND tabloid with no source ever found.