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Are managers slowly forcing the girls to change their way they do superchat reading?
They realize only Mori can seethe at a superchat, right?

>> No.17281293 [DELETED] 

So does this mean Mori has ruined superchats for everyone?

>> No.17281302

>>17281213
Kiara is such a nice girl, damn it.Angel walking among... Eh, within our realm.

>> No.17281328

>>17281213
I love orange woman

>> No.17281340

>>17281213
How tf does it even work?

>> No.17281368

>>17281213
she doesn't want to destroy her throat even more.

>> No.17281387

>>17281213
She's gonna whisper it out? Why tho? I don't get it.

>> No.17281410

>>17281213
Nah, Kiara's throat is shot due to chicken voice. That's why she changed her methods. J-Chad's the only one who has to tard-wrangle Mori while the other tend to handle SCs better.

>> No.17281413

>>17281213
Fags like you are behaving like zhangs that harassed Coco, so now they have to take precautions.

>> No.17281429

>>17281213
Read quietly? I don't understand

>> No.17281447

Man I really need to remind myself to stop jamming my cock so hard into their throats, they keep missing streams and losing their voices because of it.

>> No.17281463

>>17281387
>>17281429
her throat is fucked up, chicken voice came back to bite her ass, she's going to get it checked out sometime soon.

>> No.17281481

>>17281213
Most of the trolling that makes VTubers say things are placed in their names, Kiara.

>> No.17281495

>>17281463
Oh okay. I thought Mori ruined Hololive... Again

>> No.17281512

>>17281495
You lost, retard.

>> No.17281560

>>17281410
It's the perfect opportunity for her to drop that damn voice. Make it happen, KFP.

>> No.17281587

>>17281512
Not now, leanbeat. This is a chicken thread.
https://twitter.com/Wataaamage/status/1487074369822199814

>> No.17281608

>>17281328
Orange woman bad.

>> No.17281641

>>17281587
God I want to fuck San__

>> No.17281671

>>17281463
Oh fuck, do we have another case of vocal nodules on the way for Hololive?

>> No.17281676

>>17281213
Cowards

>> No.17281678

>>17281560
I saw KFP try and it can't be done unless external forces like the doctor, family, friends tell her to drop it and even then she'd just take periodic breaks to heal. THAT stubborn about it.

>> No.17281695

>>17281213
Nah, Kiara fucked up her voice, Mori is the only one too retarded to not be trusted with reading superchats.

>> No.17281697

>>17281560
It might happen sooner or later, she's been using that voice for almost 2 years. It'd be a miracle if Subaru doesn't lose her voice too.

>> No.17281711 [DELETED] 
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Cuckbeats not welcomed

>> No.17281748

>>17281413
Only difference is Coco deserved it, Mori don’t.

>> No.17281772

>>17281608
Nah, Orange woman good.

>> No.17281784

>>17281213
>Will show SC on screen
>Will react
IS MANAGEMENT TRYING TO HIDE SC FROMUS????!1?

>> No.17281806

>>17281340
She'll just read the superchat's name, thank them, but won't read the actual message out loud. I dunno if this is something Kiara came up with on her own or if the Omegatranny is forcing Myth to do

>> No.17281837

>>17281748
Cuckbeat hating Coco. What else is new?

>> No.17281881

>>17281213
En Bros
Why myth end up become like this

>> No.17281887

>>17281748
And here I thought cuckbeats couldn't get any more retarded.

>> No.17281898

>>17281806
I dont think omega have any power over Kiara or Gura since jenma apparently is only below the the high ups.

>> No.17281934

>>17281887
I hate chumpedo
But I just realized that cuckbeat is worse than them

>> No.17281939

>>17281881
Because of Mori and Gura

>> No.17281991

Time to create a username called "Nick Gurr" then.

>> No.17282003

>>17281213
It's just SC reading ASMR.

>> No.17282110

>>17281939
In Mori case it just some random rrat right ?
Because I never heard about that rrat outside /vt/ cmiiw

>> No.17282138

>>17281463
Kiara's definition of Soon™ regarding doctor appointments is... Lax, to say the least.

>> No.17282234

I'd probably be full KFP if not for the chimkin voice.

>> No.17282278

>>17281748
Hey cuckbeats! do you really think that?

>> No.17282369

>>17281748
God I hate cuckbeats

>> No.17282441
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>>17281213
>try to harass a girl into quitting streaming
>she does something to prevent it
>/vt/:

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>>17281748
Come back when your cringey ass wigger wannabe cuckqueen does something of substance to hololive

>> No.17282581

>>17281213
Aww, knowing Kiara it probably was not her idea since she loves fan interraction

>> No.17282690

>>17282484
>cuckqueen
I don't think you know what that means.

>> No.17282728

>>17281748
I never thought cuckbeats were zhangs...

>> No.17282739

An off topic question, how does Kiara feel about a KFP account baiting the Nigger of Nippon? Did she feel bad about it or secretly laughed of the situation

>> No.17282752

>>17281806
It's been months and a literal nobody still lives in your head rent free.

>> No.17282778

>>17282728
After Coco meme review where Coco called Mori out they become zhangs

>> No.17282849

>>17281748
So cuckbeats were the Zhangs all along...

>> No.17282892

>>17281748
Easiest (You)s ever. Get farmed, retards.

>> No.17282918

>>17282581
I don't watch Kiara, but Kronii was able to read SCs normally just dozen hours ago, though. It's probably >>17281410, having one IRyS is enough (throat damaged to the point doctor forced her not to talk at all during normal life except "during work" because she loved streaming too much, probably killed shit ton of her momentum on top of what previous break due to the same issue already ruined)

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>>17281748
>>17281748
This make me wonder if Mori ever graduate, will produanon make a /vt/ sing for Mori project, and how many peoples will show up for it?

>> No.17283052

May this be the beginning of the end

>> No.17283063

>>17281560
She won't listen, all we can do is pray that the doctor tells her to cut it out and she follows his advice.

>> No.17283108

>>17281213
>only Mori can seethe at a superchat
you realize schizos gonna change target now callie's chat is moderated by J Chad, right?

>> No.17283139

>>17283063
Akasupa money for the doctor and tell him this, do it KFP.

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>>17281748
I don't care about mori, but Jesus christ I hate deadcuks

>> No.17283434

>>17281587
YES, NEED MORE.

>> No.17283489

>>17283108
>>17283052
>>17282752
>>17282581
>>17282441
>>17281939
>>17281881
>>17281806
See
>>17281410

>> No.17283500

>>17281213
Her voice is shot, she already said so on twitter but she doesn't want to torpedo her channel like Ina or Irys.

>> No.17283527

>>17281560
I can stand it but I would much rather she dropped it, I hope it happens
But in a way that doesn't make her sad. I'm no KFP but if she feels better using chimkin voice for some reason I wouldn't like that she feels down about it.

>> No.17283534

>>17281213
>something changes
>"HURR DID MANAGER FORCE THIS?!"

>> No.17283704

>>17281413
I used to wonder if the guys who harassed Coco were maybe paid nationalists or something, because honestly what reasonable person would give a fuck if an anime girl talked about Taiwan?
Now I realize it was probably a group of retards from whatever the Chinese equivalent of 4chan was. People exactly like the /vt/ community.

>> No.17283737

>>17281213
It's because of her voice. Haven't you seen her these past days complaining about having a sore throat?

>> No.17283774

>>17283108
You seem new here so I'm just going to take you through some basics. This shit with Mori has very very very little to do with "us" as an entity at all, it was Mori herself going out of her way to start responding to things almost identical to opinions about TT that had been unchanged and constant for like a year running. Not much actually changed on the ground with regards to opinions about connor/TT, mori decided simply now is the time to die on the hill for connor's sake on her own.

Not a lot specifically changed here, but she on her own turned it into a sort of ultimatum of "you HAVE to like this third party group or you're no longer allowed to be a deadbeat" and vastly underestimated how people interpreted her divisive behavior targeting her own fans. Disrespecting your fans is basically the ultimate fear we all have about our oshis - that they really think nothing of us and talk shit behind out backs etc, the ultimate betrayal possible and Mori showed more than a little shade of that the other week. In trying to overtly herd her fans around she's treating them less like the saviors they like to style themselves as and more of just cattle to whip into complacency.

Given that state of things and the fact Mori herself turned this into an issue when literally like the week prior /vt/ actually really liked her, probably more than IT HAD EVER liked her by a longshot? It's just a Mori thing. To assume that there is some mob that just sits here idly organizing shit to attack is to say you know fucking nothing at all about /vt/ besides what scared children/naive adults tell each other about 4chan, retelling behaviors of /b/ from like 15 years ago that are very long gone. The actual anti groups organize on discords. They may try to astroturf this board sometimes but we generally can tell when they're raiding and don't like it any more than anyone else would. In fact people from here have gotten plenty of those groups shut down for harassment when they're discovered, and made a big show and dance about uncovering one of the biggest Kiara antis running one into a basically evergreen meme that discredits all her antis in specific. Kiara is actually one of the most well-like Myths here now FYI.

>> No.17283784

>>17283704
>nationalists or something,
>group of retards from whatever the Chinese equivalent of 4chan
Try a group of people fed state propaganda all her life and that fears their government

>> No.17283820

>>17283704
I mean, unless you think every Chinese person on the Internet is getting paid by the government, you have to accept they are all brainwashed imperialists. They are the Burgers of Asia. Apart from the Burgers that infest the place, the 4chan mindset is the opposite of the Chinese.

>> No.17284027

I throat fucked your oshi kfp.
Sorry

>> No.17284109

>>17282739
Who do you think gave them the idea? Who also could easily egg Mori on while she's inebriated?

>> No.17284117

>>17283774
>she on her own turned it into a sort of ultimatum of "you HAVE to like this third party group or you're no longer allowed to be a deadbeat"
Wrong. That was deadbeats and TT fans. They've been like that way more than mori, just look at the Card game collab that got dislikes. Read the comments, it was her fans doing that type of shit, she just never cared.

>> No.17284258

>>17283774
So how come about 98% of the hate that she got from this was from 4chan, and not from the other platforms?

>> No.17284343

>>17281560
I will watch Kiara. I will quit being a KFP anti.
Make it happen, KFP.

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>>17283774
>but she on her own turned it into a sort of ultimatum of "you HAVE to like this third party group or you're no longer allowed to be a deadbeat"
How do you figure this when she's said several times that you don't have to watch her when she's providing content you don't like (i.e. showing up on TT), and her main issue on her rant was that she didn't like being told who she can or can't be friends with?

>> No.17284379

>>17284258
Sure anon, I'm sure that her plebbit post was dislike bombed as a show of support
Also
>why didn't the heavely moderated hug boxes had hate
Gee I wonder

>> No.17284396

>>17281898
That higher up IS the tranny.

>> No.17284445

>>17281410
PLEASEEEEE TENCHO!!! THIS IS IT!!! THIS IS THE TIME TO DROPPED THE VOICE AND SHOW YOUR REAL POWER LEVEL!!!!

>> No.17284516

>>17283784
Then /vt/ is even worse than the chinks cause there’s no state propaganda telling you that malding over your trolls and being friends with the opposite gender is unforgivable. You guys made all that up yourselves.
>>17283820
Mindset is different except when it comes to screeching about anime chuubas over stupid shit.

>> No.17284627

>>17281748
The ironing of the replies to this post, not realizing that they're the chinks in this situation and taking a random schizo as the representative of all dead beats.

>> No.17284735

>>17284117
You think too little of her, when an e-celeb publicly draws a line with their fans it is because they know their rabid fans will enforce it. You can't say Mori didn't want her fans to do loyalty tests and oust dissenters because we got to see the exact reverse situation with Kiara in the same week where she said the controversial thing that had her fans split and trying to shame dissenters and then she told them to stop making drama that aggravated those upset fans because they shouldn't be pressured to be into things they don't like. If you wanted to be really charitable I guess you could argue Mori was trying to welcome back in the people who didn't like TT by complimenting their cuck meme but that seems like a bit of a stretch.

>> No.17284885

>>17281213
It's just Mori realizing the way she used to read SCs was retarded (aloud in one go, no preemptive skimming)

>> No.17284907

>>17284516
I mean, you can pretend to be retarded all you want but there's a difference between getting upset when a vtuber attacks your government and when a vtuber attacks your community. A Chang or a Burger will scream endlessly if you mock their government but turn over their own grandma to the police. But everyone else doesn't care if the entire world burns to the ground as long as their community is left alone.

>> No.17284960

>>17281748
Ohgay, zhang.

>> No.17284995

>>17284379
You can't just provide an example of when reddit went against her, and then at the same breath say that it is not possible for reddit to ever go against her, because of moderation.
And the reddit criticism that replying to that tweet was a bad idea, and she should just ignore the haters is quite a bit different than the 4chan criticism that she is a whore who hates vtubing, her fans and her coworkers because of her statements about the Connor situation.
And the other unmoderated platforms of twitter and youtube were also heavily on Calis side, at least for the Connor stuff.

>> No.17285034

>>17283534
>anything at all happens
>HURR MANAGEMENT REEE
Welcome to/ vt/

>> No.17285118

>>17284516
White trash take desu.
Coco didn't do anything wrong.
Mori is actively shitting up HoloEN with anglo mutt faggotry.

>> No.17285204

>>17284995
The reason hugboxes like twitter, youtube and reddit are able to be on Calli's side is people with accounts there are inherently people who won't do research for themselves and just default to following the groupthink. Trolls like you are boosted there whereas here you are equal to the rest of us. All you had to do was lie to people on those type of sites and tell them this was about not letting a woman be free and they were all going to support her mindlessly. While people here had a long history of context with Mori and this was just one more incident to add to the list.

>> No.17285206

>>17284907
But /vt/ is the minority in the community. The vast majority of Mori and Hololive’s community doesn’t give a shit and thinks you guys are annoying.

>> No.17285243

>>17285118
/vt/ is shitting up HoloEN with their retardation.
Just go read an NTR doujin and cry yourself to sleep already.

>> No.17285267

>>17284360
>"you have to like this or you can't be my fan"
>"if you don't like what I'm doing, leave"
You literally just presented the latter to try to try to disprove the former. Are you dumb, anon?

>> No.17285372

>>17285243
>n-no you don't c-count!
Desperation to exclude someone because you disagree with them? Such faggotry.

>> No.17285376

>>17285206
I don't know why you're changing topics here, the majority of Mori and EN's community are Burgers so I agree with you that they are like Changs. The difference between the Coco situation and Mori is called context. If Coco were in China and said Taiwan is part of China, then you'd see how her Chang fans in that situation would be exactly the same as Mori's and the people criticizing her in that situation (a small minority) are the equivalent of /vt/.

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Why does everyone hate us, bros....

>> No.17285555

>>17285204
Don't you think that it is possible that an important factor is that because of the history of this site and the proximity to certain other well known boards, the "political leaning" of average person here is quite a bit different than in other places?

>> No.17285765

>>17283704
You must be a tourist if you think Coco's harassment is in any way comparable to the shitposting about Mori that happens mostly on /vt/. You obviously weren't there to see it and what lengths the bugs went to.

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>>17285267
"if you don't like what I'm doing, leave" and "you don't have to watch her when she's providing content you don't like" are two very different sentences, anon.

>> No.17285965

>>17285555
What differentiates this place from many others is the amount of suppression. There's a well established and supported narratives in places like Reddit and Twitter where thinking and saying certain stuff will immediately get you shunned and banned. People that want to avoid as much censorship as possible say whatever they want have very few places to run to... 4chan, other chan, kiwifarm, gab... And that's probably it.

>> No.17285980

>>17285555
I mean it's definitely more libertarian I suppose but that's such a broad and meaningless distinction it doesn't really make sense to categorize it by politics. And the only reason this place has retained any difference in leaning from those other sites is because it doesn't allow you to make accounts so you don't get any social credit for your opinions from one post to the next. Plus, this place is filled with filth from all those sites as well, there are people who actually are from those other places and not here that come here to post their dissent because they know they can't say it over there. I mean everyone here has to use Youtube to watch Hololive and yet notice how they aren't posting over there. The last time I had a youtube account was over ten years ago, the only channel I even remember being subscribed to was some girl singing pop covers who later became famous enough to get shot by her fan.

>> No.17286061

>>17284995
>You can't just provide an example of when reddit went against her, and then at the same breath say that it is not possible for reddit to ever go against her, because of moderation.
Mods cant delete post or comments that critize her, but they cant delete dislikes
Come on anon

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>>17285965
>avoid censorship
>4chan
>mod bans you for saying something he doesn't like
rumao

>> No.17286099

>>17286061(me)
can delete posts or comments*

>> No.17286135

She became a little pussy ass bitch, that's what she did

>> No.17286287

>>17281413
>Coco literally did nothing wrong and Zhangs attacked
>Mori collabed with fags that openly shit talked the company that made her and its talents, lost her mind over a superchat and went on a drug fulled melt down across two different social media platforms
Yes its exactly the same

>> No.17286346

>>17286076
you should be banned for being a lil bitch who cries at moderation

>> No.17286405

>>17281560
fucking this.

>> No.17286429

>>17285965
It's the lack of accounts and by extension the (relative) lack of suppression. Sites like gab may have a different narrative on them but the people are exactly the same types as those on twitter, they just booted off twitter and went there to make bizarro twitter. Most people post on the Internet for attention but here any attention you earned one post gets reset to zero with the next. The type of person who is here as their homebase rather than something on the side is fundamentally different from your average Internet user. And this place censors and bans for wrongthink just like every other site, but because it isn't account-based and the bans are incredibly inconsistent and really the equivalent of suspensions on other sites, people are willing to say what they actually think. If I get banned for making fun of trannies, I'm not losing my life's work that I invested into some account for a decade and when I come back, nobody will know I was banned or why. I've even been banned by some algorithmic-like misunderstanding in the way streamers often are but again, because it's really just a suspension and you aren't losing something you created over time, it's not a fear I live with every day forcing me to avoid trigger words that get the bots to flag me. A ban here is not the end of the world whereas it could be in those other places.

>> No.17286468

>>17281748
Master bait.

>> No.17286531

>>17281748
You are either a bugman or a deadcuck, either way kys

>> No.17286561

>>17286346
Uhhhh, deary, that's literally censorship.

>> No.17286610

>>17281463
When she lets it slip, Kiara has a rather nice normal voice. I know she's dedicated to her character and it's all partly to help mask identities, but I'm sure her fans (along with other Holos having similar problems) wouldn't mind her dropping the chicken-voice for health reasons.

>> No.17286615

>>17281748
Drug addicts belong in prison.

>> No.17286684

>>17286610
Kiara is not trying to mask her identity.

>> No.17286916

>>17285965
It turns out you don't need moderation to achieve circlejerks. You can spent an hour on any board and learn what are the accepted opinions on what you are suppose to like and hate that 95% of people there follow and most of the rest use to create bait.

>>17285980
4chan might have been libertarian 10 years ago, but since then a different political ideology has taken hold that has strong opinions on stuff like what is acceptable female behavior and on music that is linked to other races.
>>17286061
You realize that the post where Cali commentated was a post that was critical of her, and was filled with comments that were critical of her?

>> No.17286936

>>17285267
Anon she literally hosts jojo twitter spaces and she specifically mentioned it's okay not to participate in those. Missing out on something she's doing =/= stop being a fan. And if you're talking about the comment during the membership stream, go watch the keemster's leaked membership. She asked why is he even a member. It was a new face with a new skull with no prior history of chatting or throwing SCs, and even changed names a day later. It wasn't a fan, it was a burner and she knew it.

The problem here are thread readers who neither watched Kiara's stream or Mori's memberships and rely on clips deliberately cut in the middle. And somehow you have more insight to the situation to even extrapolate on incomplete information. Fine, you can have your own thoughts in the matter but at least get your facts straight.

>> No.17287534

>>17286936
Not the guy you are arguing with but you're deliberately lying about the circumstance. Nobody is arguing about whether or not you can be a fan if you don't consume every ounce of content a person makes, literally no one but a mouth-breathing retard consumes every bit of content someone they like produces. The argument was over whether or not you can be a fan while not approving of a particular thing the person you are a fan of does. Kiara would say yes you can while Mori would say no you can't.

>> No.17287625

>>17286916
The only way this place has noticeably changed is it stopped gatekeeping faggots like you.

>> No.17287641

>>17281213
REAL VOICE CHADS KEEP WINNING

>> No.17287859

>>17281748
JUST WHEN I THOUGHT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO HATE DEADBRAPS EVEN MORE...

>> No.17287860

>>17283774
I care more about them disrespecting their coworkers than their toxic gachis.

>> No.17287887

>>17287625
incel

>> No.17288092

>>17287625
I love it when on one hand I'm being told that 4chan is superior to those safe space websites, because it allows all opinions equally, and on the other hand I'm being told that 4chan is not good anymore because it does not gatekeep other opinions out as well as it did before.

>> No.17288233

>>17288092
4chan WAS better before all the mods got replaced by trannies and jews. The mod for this board is a literal tranny seanigger.

>> No.17288287

>>17284735
>Kiara in the same week where she said the controversial thing that had her fans split and trying to shame dissenters and then she told them to stop making drama that aggravated those upset fans because they shouldn't be pressured to be into things they don't like.
It is funny how Kiara, despite being kind of annoying, has turned out to be the better, more level-headed chuuba over time than the rest of Myth minus maybe Gura. Kiara has deescalated potentially bad situations and generally supports her genmates, bragging about Gura on the official channel and giving Ame props in the Yagoo interview, and hasn't really done anything too terrible beyond throwing a few pity parties for herself on occasion and speaking a bit crudely at times. At this point, teammates, chumbuds and deadbeats are far worse fanbases as well.

>> No.17288474

>>17288092
The people on this board lack self awareness. Let's be honest, /vt/ is one of the worst boards on this site, and 4chan was already dwindling in quality to begin with.

>> No.17288873

>>17287534
Why do you say Kiara would? When has something like this happened to her to warrant that prediction?

Moreover, I don't think you understand Mori's position. She's not saying no, you *can* be a fan while not liking people your oshi hangs out with. But that's all it can amount to. You can hate that person all you want, but when your hatred goes beyond that, and by "dissaproving of" someone you send her a SC when you think you're "doing the right thing" by telling her who she can and can't hang out with? That's not only breaching containment (because I know damn sure the people who actively believe that's ruining her content or some shit is from around here) but crossing the damn line.

People having entitled saviorfag delusions and ACTING ON THEM even if they're deadbeats is what got us here into the first place. And she's not in the wrong for not liking that attitude, just for replying to it directly.

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Are there any pictures of vtubers coughing up blood? I feel like at this point there should be as many of them as we have cringing Mio edits. So many of these bitches are fucking up their throats

>> No.17289111

>>17281213
we all know it's not mori's fault.
it's fucking (you)s fault.
fuck /vt/ for fucking schizoing and breaking containment.

>> No.17289312

>>17286287
Exactly why we hate Mori

>> No.17289373

>>17288092
It's not about gatekeeping opinions, it's about gatekeeping faggots. People here always disagreed with each other but they actually had to put some effort into being here and adapting to the culture. Now this place is often a dumping ground for the rejects from every other site bringing their culture here and hating this place. You actively hate this place but post here anyway bringing nothing of value. Because the gatekeeping stopped, you get to make this place more similar to whatever shithole you came from and everyone loses.

You do realize in the old days when 4chan "gatekept" it was famous for being a place where actual cheese pizza was posted or murderers confessed right? Gatekeeping =/= safe space, it just means keeping out people who aren't willing to adapt. Safe spaces are created by admin/mods, gatekeeping is done by the community. So deleting cheese pizza is creating a safe space, but calling out new posters as faggots is gatekeeping. Banning someone for saying tranny is making a safe space, relentlessly mocking anyone who says they like The Beatles is gatekeeping.

>> No.17289377

Why the fuck is she so stubborn about her voice, jesus christ.

>> No.17289413

>>17289111
It's not /vt/'s fault Mori got drunk and went out of her way to comment on a 5 day old anti post.

>> No.17289416

>>17284343
posts like this make me realize how right Kiara is not wanting to drop the voice
nobody wants you, stay filtered and fuck off

>> No.17289444

>>17281213
Lmaooo the absolute state of Hololive they can't read superchat anymore. Thank you autists

>> No.17289547

>>17289373
This. Gatekeeping is essentially when weak people throw themselves out voluntarily because they don't like the culture of a place. Censorship from above is when the culture that would naturally emerge if left alone is suppressed at all costs.

>> No.17289704

>>17289373
>>17289547
>4chan was good when we fed off Jeffrey Epstein's scraps openly
Now this is an argument against gatekeeping if I ever read any

>> No.17289729

>>17281748
Cuckbeats still seething over Coco calling their oshi a crack head

>> No.17289758

>>17289704
Good luck arguing against lolis on this board.

>> No.17289812

>>17288873
She literally said so in the same week as Mori's incident, try to keep up. Kiara nervously asked if she could collab with males and her fanbase freaked out in the same way as Mori's, saying anyone who thought she shouldn't was wrong and not a fan and she could do whatever she wanted. But when some of her fans admitted concern over the matter and how they were upset with how they were being treated badly over it she told her rabid lunatics to stop trying to aggravate those people and there was nothing wrong with the preference of female-only (since it's one she herself has) and in the end she isn't sure she'll do those male collabs the people pushing for it want her to do anyway since those weren't what she was even asking about.

Mori on the other hand turned a similarly mild concern into an incident where she had to draw a line of "I side with the people who are against this part of my fanbase and you are all wrong for thinking your opinions matter, in fact, if you share them again I'll do everything I can to spite you even if it backfires and only destroys my own dignity".

>> No.17289995

>>17289704
That's not why it was better but yes it was better. The point was safe spaces and gatekeeping are unrelated. In theory every blue board is a safe space from porn and in general that's a good thing because it prevents too much off-topic shit, and yet I think anyone who uses any board on this site under the impression it will be "safe" is a retard and gets what they deserve when they are posting here at work and their boss walks by as some troll makes an "OOO MASSA YOU GON MAKE ME SQUIRT" thread or begins spamming ISIL advertisements. When you expect cops to keep the streets clear of bums and thieves, that is a "safe space". When you don't let strangers into your home, that is "gatekeeping".

>> No.17290310

>>17281560
If they need to use something that is different from their natural voice, then why don't they either use:
-Voice Changer
or
-Go XLR
?

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>>17289995
This fag seriously calls them "ISIL".

>> No.17291269

>>17281213
>read quietly
The image of Kiara leaning into the microphone to whisper the SC message was fucking hilarious, thank you manager-chama

>> No.17291405

>>17290356
I don't know Arabic and I've kinda forgotten what they were called, it's been a long time, Daesh or something?

>> No.17291472

>>17291405
>Daesh
that was a retarded fake name someone made up and posted an anonymous tweet saying that ISIS didn't like being called Daesh. so everyone decided to turn into manchildren and spam that around thinking they were epically owning ISIS

>> No.17291906

>>17289812
I didn't pay too much attention to that "drama" either cause I thought it was gonna be some small thing related to incels and idol culture worshippers that would blow over in the end, and it kinda did at least compared to what happened to Calli, but hell, in the end it's even worse, because THAT actually would influence her content and streams, not something as casual as Calli literally just being friends with someone. In any case, is that part of her thought process inside your head? Cause from what I remember, she clearly said it was specific superchats trying to belittle the people she was friends with or hangs out with and trying to dictate it that she'd donate back to them, and I honestly don't see how someone would be offended or marginalized by such a take, but here we are.

...well, aside from the people who that message is directed to which, well we know what place we're in, don't we.

>> No.17291937

>>17289373
The safe space discussion that I was having only has any meaning if it means that this place not being a "safe space" means that it better represents what most people are feeling. But if both places get rid of opposing views, it does not really matter if it is achieved by mods or by calling everyone you don't like faggots until they leave. For this discussion, it is completely irrelevant how cool and edgy you feel by looking at stuff you parents don't want you to look at.
I don't want this place to change. Unlike you, I don't like circlejerking and much prefer places where I completely disagree with everyone. This place being a zoo filled with delusional 4chan "libertarians" who go crazy about trannies and jews is much better than if you were well adjusted people.

>> No.17292295

>>17281213
It's just more convenient, and mori's case proved antis will use to harass someone if they're not happy with whatever they do. Good move.

>> No.17292296

kiara i know you are /here/ please dont destroy your throat like marine and lower it your doctors are even telling you to rest it PLEASE KIARA I AM BEGGING YOU

>> No.17292298

>>17289758
>lolis = CP
Found the well-poisoning onionslad. Get the fuck outta here with your shitty opinions.

>> No.17292359

>>17291405
They just call themselves the "Islamic State" which is a coalition of militias funded by secret services in Africa and Asia.

>> No.17292408

>>17289704
Jesus just go back to twitter.

>> No.17292447

>>17291472
I see. I'm not really good at keeping up with e-celebs, I apologize if I upset you. One thing I learned about cancel culture is that it actually does help me forget all the content I enjoyed after it's banned and I'm too lazy to find it again.

>> No.17292874

>>17291906
It's clear you don't pay attention to anything and just get upset if you're not winning the narrative. Mori's entire meltdown started with the most inoffensive and mild superchat, she didn't even have to read it, she literally said "normally I wouldn't read it" and then read it anyway just to make her line in the sand with her response. Previously when every person deals with these sorts of comments including Mori herself with the shekels one, they don't read it on stream and just tell the person to ask for a refund and not send stuff like that. People here already hated her because she hates the vtubing community but the fact that she sperged out over such a mild superchat showed her antis that they could easily get under her skin and so people had fun doing that (see: "condom money for connor" and "cucking the deadbeats comic") and she then went completely off the deep end. Which was hilarious. But I highly doubt she interacted with a single bit of content from here. People on 4chan hate TT not because they are male but because they are grifters, so they by default hate Mori for the same reason. Nobody from here was thinking her one flaw was collaborating with males.

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17293150

>>17283774
>>17284735
>>17284907
>>17284995
>>17285204
>>17285376
>>17285965
>>17285980
>>17286429
>>17286936
>>17287534
>>17288287
>>17288873
>>17289373
>>17289812
>>17291906
>>17291937
>>17292874

>> No.17293214

>>17291405
Nope. ISIS.

>> No.17293257

>>17293150
How dare you not give me a (you).

>> No.17293945

>>17292408
No you go back. I've been here since you were being bullied in junior high for troondom.

>> No.17294507

>>17281560
anyone have clips about fans asking her to drop it?

>> No.17294679

even as an egg, I feel bad for her. she shouldn't be forced to ruin herself just to pander to degens who can't stand an adult female voice

>> No.17294719

>>17293945
so you're here since yesterday? go back

>> No.17294730

>>17294679
no one is forcing her though

>> No.17295078

>>17294730
I suppose you're right. It's still sad though.

>> No.17295462

>>17281587
>inb4 I like the composition

>> No.17295551

>>17281837
>Cuckbeat hating Coco. What else is new?
"hate" is such a strong word for a character that comes from Mori's extended universe

>> No.17295640

>>17281302
>>17281328

Your oshi is a whore, you cannot fix her, and she will never fuck you.

>> No.17295693

>>17281748
cope n seethe cuckbeat, cope n seethe

>> No.17295749

>>17281463
Based.

>> No.17295762

>>17295640
You can say that about literally every chuuba, anon. That includes you and your oshi.

>> No.17295829

>>17281748
Both are filthy disobedient employees who hate the company, both deserve it.

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