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>> No.17112268

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/jwfivCFB

>> No.17112514

Does anyone care about clips? Which vtuber clip has the most views?

>> No.17112571
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KNEEL

>> No.17112625

>>17112571
Why would I kneel when Selen doesn't have a PoV?
This is lower than her normal viewership.

>> No.17112818

>>17112210
>all medals have same color
At least try to use silver and bronze

>> No.17112867

>>17112571
Selen has some draw-power

>> No.17112904

>>17112571
kinda sad desu

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>>17112571
Imagine how much exposure Crunchyroll would have gotten if it was Gura instead.

>> No.17113130

>>17112818
anon >>17105760 made this as a prototype.
I just used it as an OP because no one else seemed to have bothered to make new thread.

>> No.17113147

>>17112571
But can she incline from it? THat is the real question...

>> No.17113177

>>17112818
>>17112210
yeah, it ended up looking really bad in the thumbnail.
Found some different colored medals and it'll have a header with the names and numbers next time.

Very much miss the troll op already though, think this would be better as the 3rd post.

>> No.17113194

>>17113066
would you really want Gura to be collabing with Crunchyroll-chan though?

>> No.17113238

>>17113066
>1 year ago
When shill streams could get 30k+

>> No.17113265

>>17113066
That was a Enna/Millie collab just to clarify.
>>17113147
No, this is just a corporate collab, all of Selen's fans didn't even bother to show up.

>> No.17113285
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>>17112571
CRUNCHY-SAMA, I KNEEL!

>>17112625
>Why would I kneel when Selen doesn't have a PoV?
VERSEn were considered her competitors and didn't manage to get 1k yet, more like 100

KNEEL!

>> No.17113307

Is it me, or is Rikka's latest cover doing pretty well for a Holostars song with no features?
>50k in 1 day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELP7sBBIJU

>> No.17113351

>>17113238
>When shill streams could get 30k+
Princess Connect anime had finished not months before that, maybe even less.

>> No.17113424

>>17113285
>more like 100
Lol no, they're actual 2views.

>> No.17113607

>>17112571
Oh, Hime......

>> No.17113738

Jp Mori drama clip is getting massive views

>> No.17113770
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>>17113424

Hey, cunny can get 100 most of the time! The only one that does it in VERSE.

>> No.17113918

>>17113738
good, link? to give it some more

>> No.17113980

>>17113738
Of course it is, that's the crowd she chose all the way back when she lectured ENVTweeters with "off with their heads".
There is this enormous segment of the audience wishing for her to crash and burn and I'm not even talking about the good people in this board (which are not numerous enough to generate that much buzz)

>> No.17113983

>>17113285
didn't know versen live rent free in your head

>> No.17113991

>>17113738
you can't just mention this without numbers man, at least link it

>> No.17114035

>>17113738
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUmePL4iq5U
This one?

>> No.17114101

>>17114035
Will Cover main branch be spooked?
Mori's ego wouldn't be able to take it if yagoo comments on this

>> No.17114114

>>17113991
The will make bait thread with it
>>17114035
Yes

>> No.17114121 [DELETED] 

>>17113738
link or fake and gay

>> No.17114127

>>17113194
Sure, why not. As aloof to collabs as Gura generally is once she's actually in one she tends to be on her A game most of the time, unless the other person doesn't speak English.

>> No.17114358

>>17114101
Doubt it.
All Mori has to do is apologize for being unprofessional and then do nothing (she probably doesn't even have to apologize anyways).
The JP schizos don't particularly care about what the overseas branches do but they will burn a JP member if they did the same thing.

>> No.17114425

>>17114358
>All Mori has to do is apologize for being unprofessional
she did, but on reddit comments only

>> No.17114448

>>17114101
nah they dont even go into it like no mention of the drugs or what a bastard cannur really is

>> No.17114498

>>17114425
the one that got downvoted? yeah apology my ass anon good apology there

>> No.17114566

>>17114448
That's because this clipper is trying to end the drama while sounding unbiased.

>> No.17114578

>>17112571
This is not kneel material

>> No.17114604

>>17114358
>All Mori has to do is apologize
wrong, she has to change her attitude and stop using her "friends" as shield

>> No.17114724

>>17114604
That's a different issue. I'm just talking about the here and now.
The hugbox already deployed and is calling anyone who even slightly disagrees an incel or loser.

>> No.17114740

>>17114498
your missing one item on the timeline
>he replies to the cuckbeat post on twitter
>redditors repost it on r/hololive, they dont like it
>mori replies there, saying "cant i just have some fun"
>redditors mass downvote and reply to her
>she deletes that comment, and makes 2 new ones on same thread, one saying shes sorry and that deadbeats dont deserve it and that it was unprofessional; the other one saying something like she was drunk
>she goes over on twitter to say taht lean shit
check the archives links are spread around

>> No.17114824

>>17112571
>>17113738
CrunchyRoll and VerseN, technically Sony_EN and Sony_JP, how on earth is EN is beating out JP?

>> No.17114865

>>17114724
which means apologizing is useless, the clipwatchers are on her side and literally every comment is giving her support

>> No.17114904
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>>17114740
>>17114498
>Nah, y’all are right. I deleted it. I can be better than this, sorry. I have some issues I have to iron out. I’d like to come back a better and more mature person, there’s a lot on my mind but dead Beats deserve better than this. Once again, sorry y’all.
>Drunk, tired, stressed. Still have much to learn about being a professional.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/sam9io/uhh_calli/
that shitty reddit site is barely loading anything atm

>> No.17115102

>>17114904
Remember that post somebody made about external yabs just making Hololive stronger. This is an interesting case. This certainly started out as an internal yab with Mori being drunk and sperging out on twitter/Reddit. However, it has now been framed by recap videos and the greater Hololive fanbase itself as an external yab. Mori is being harassed by these damn antis!!!

She is going to get a ton of support when she comes back full time and I hope this place is prepared for it, lol.

>> No.17115205

>>17115102
honestly, I see it as a win - win. Mori will get support and hopefully, learn from this and antis get the satisfaction of getting to her and have material to shitpost against deadbeats with

>> No.17115246

https://note.com/anrimayura/n/nc313a6f5e28d
its over bros. hololive will decline this year.
>Currently, it is losing to Nijisanji EN, which is popular overseas, and has a deadly bomb inside .
>1. Decline in overseas popularity
>2. lack of motivation among holo-live members
>3. "Preferential treatment" problem, sense of discomfort in the Metaverse business
>4.Absolutely no solution to the China problem, ineptitude and ineffectiveness
Summary: The future will be turned upside down by Niji-sanji

>> No.17115320

>>17115246
>note blogpost
and to the trash it goes

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>>17115246
>blog
but is anyone in niji even coming close to gura's sub gain even with her breaks? also funny how he's ignoring cali/kiara for supers

>> No.17115434

>>17115205
>learn from this
Anon, she was liking tweets that were only sucking up to her.
>>17115246
Post your tumblr blog while you're at it.

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>>17115246
>

>> No.17115497

>>17115434
>liking tweets
by learn from it i mean taking either kiara/ame's approach or gura/ina's approach to trolls.

>> No.17115568

The mori drama spergouts seem to be only on here,a few facebook groups and one nga chink thread. You know something is wrong when v8 anons are supportive of mori and they are all drama watchers, even laughing at 4chan as the second coming of coco bugs.

>> No.17115590

numbers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgEsyuN8oKY

>> No.17115604

>>17115246
>en
i've never watched a full stream from side branch but if they really got their asses kicked by the competition with all the advantage given to them, then they deserve it

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>>17115246
>When Coco Kiryu graduated in July '21, HololiveReddit had 10,000-13,000 active users, but now it has at most 3,000-4,000, and the number of posts has dropped dramatically. On 4ch and other international forums, Chinese antagonists continue to engage in negative activities against Hololive and promote Niji EN, so Holo EN is being talked about less and less.
>4ch
>continue to engage in negative activities against Hololive and promote Niji EN
kek

>> No.17115633

>>17115246
LMAO

This reads like he just copied and pasted the disingenuous arguments that the schizos make on this thread. What rubbish.

>> No.17115674

>>17115610
So this post basically proves that there are no actual NijiEN fans here and its just zhangs falseflagging. To be honest this should have been obvious.

>> No.17115761

>>17115568
The message got completely changed. It went from "hating Connor because he insulted Hololive" to "4chan is mad that Calli has a male friend".
Anyways, his fanbase harassed an animator who said he was wrong about one of his takes today and got him to delete his accounts.

>> No.17115875

>>17115610
Well that explains all of the NijiEN shilling that sounds like it was copy-pasted from a script all over the board.

>> No.17115922

>>17115875
Zhangjisanji...

>> No.17115942

>>17115610
This guy is also blaming Mori's drama on the chinks lol

>> No.17115968

>>17115875
Also explains all the random NijiEN stealth marketing on the Hololive Reddit too.

>> No.17116018

>>17115610
>>17115674
>>17115875
>>17115922
>>17115968
It all of a sudden makes so much sense. As if I needed anymore reason to hate NijiEN. Can they just go the fuck away please?

>> No.17116051

>>17115761
>his fanbase harassed an animator who said he was wrong about one of his takes today and got him to delete his accounts.
his fanbase is literal twitter trannies, not surprised

>> No.17116110

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an2SuXL_Tf0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdLConh4xEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg34GCMhp1Y
Some pretty strong Holo collabs today, anything on the Niji side?

>> No.17116256

>>17115246
>In order to solve these problems, drastic measures are necessary.
Specifically, we need to revive "Hololive China"
kek and everything became clear

>> No.17116285

>>17115968
Wait a minute, in one of the threads last night somebody posted the latest stealth marketing attempt on the Hololive Reddit. They posted a screenshot from the thread creator where they said they were Chinese.

Holy fuck its all coming together.

>> No.17116328

>>17116285
It was a chink shilling Vox.

>> No.17116340

>>16654508

>> No.17116359
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>>17115437
LMAO this exactly what this guy wrote last year

>> No.17116459

>>17116256
The majority of the Luxiem superchats are in Taiwan bucks which would also include mainlanders since they need to watch via proxy. There is a massive increase in viewership when they stream during a timezone friendly to zhangs.

Holy fucking shit!! Luxiem is being propped up by Chinese Hololive anti agitators. It isn't JP fujos. It isn't underage SEA fangirls. It is Hololive antis that are propping them up.

Oh no no no Nijikeks.

>> No.17116587

>>17116285
always report + there is a button on the far right to message the mods about the rule break again, where you can write your text along with it. It will at least annoy the mods enough to make some statement about it, as they had to tell people who reported homostars posts that they were actually allowed some time way past.

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Updated.
Added tree rat for reference.

>> No.17116795

>>17112210
Nijifemales are inferior.

>> No.17116812

>>17116459
Seems pretty obvious what is going on now. The only question remaining is if AnyColor themselves have any role in the organization of this. We already know that AnyColor is in bed with the zhangs so much that bilibili runs an entire branch of their company. This could be the biggest vtuber scandal in a long time.

>> No.17116866

>>17116359
I wonder went through this schizo's mind when YAGOO dropped the biggest debuts in vtubing history with a 12 hour notice

>> No.17116993

>>17116866
It must be difficult to be an anti so far gone that you end up like him. Imagine being a Hololive anti when Hololive gives us cute girls who brighten up our day. I can understand being a Nijisanji anti because Nijisanji is an awful organization that has a history of attacking Hololive talent and just being awful in general.

Hololive anti though? There must be something wrong with you.

>> No.17117176

>>17116993
>Hololive anti though? There must be something wrong with you.
Kek

>> No.17117368

>>17116993
For whatever reason, they're personally offended at the mere existence of the company (Nijifags have been shitting on Hololive since the start). Worse now that they leap frogged them in 2020 and they've been seething ever since.
A common cope is the claim that they're only popular because of overseas fans.

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Waiting room.

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>>17117649
reclining...

>> No.17117755

>one literal blogpost was enough to send people into schizoposting about how all nijisanji fans are just a chink conspiracy

>> No.17117895

>>17117368
I mean can you blame them though? Nijifags are like the KEKtics. Hanging on to past glories that happened in the 60's when the league was a bunch of white dudes shooting under-hand. Haven't won shit for over a decade now and are mostly irrelevant despite their fans gassing themselves up as the "winningest franchise ever".

>> No.17118134

>>17117895
HAHAHHA perfect example.

>> No.17118160

>>17115246
just finished reading the article, the only true part is nijiEN male being a hit on the "western" market (it's mostly SEA+JP orbiters from nijiJP) and that every HoloEN member underdelivers in the streaming side of things which no one can deny
will that be the reason of their decline? no, it's a completely different market, it's like saying that basketball is declining in the US and that soccer is rising because of china buying most of the NBA

>> No.17118285

>robo voices
Eww
debuff

>> No.17118337

>>17118160
>It's mostly SEA+JP orbiters from NijiJP
Nah, this blog post revealed that its Chinese Hololive antis that are propping up Luxiem. Look at where the superchats are coming from and look at what hours they are getting their highest viewership.

It all comes together.

>> No.17118506

>>17118285
It makes sense for Fauna, Mumei, and Sana but Bae and Kronii can absolutely put out a deeper voice naturally.

>> No.17118666

>>17118337
nah, that's retarded even for them, if it was really chinese antis they would've boosted the first branches instead of waiting for the males

>> No.17118946

Council are such hacks that they need voice modifiers for this. Should have done it more natural and less forced when there were enough members to pull a stunt like this that can actually pull it I wonder if management pushed for this idea.

>> No.17119138

>>17118946
They are just easing up the ponies for the future HoloStar collabs, there's literally no other explanation

>> No.17119256

>>17119138
yeah its not like jp have done genderbent streams before or that its opposite day

>> No.17119404

>>17119256
JP doesn't really collabs with the Stars though, even if they speak the language, council on the other hand has been really thirsty for the male cock that they go as far as having collabs with them regardless if they are not even N5 (see Mumei)

>> No.17119439 [DELETED] 

UH KIARA????????????
TuT

>> No.17119751

>>17119256
>JP larps as male
>doesn't even acknowledge the stars, it's mostly a joke
>EN larps as male
>they appear in their streams, ask for collabs and literally lust over them on stream like Bae
sure anon, same thing
at this point I'm just switching to Nijisanji, there's nothing different between them anymore and in fact, they stream more

>> No.17119832

>>17119751
>At this point I'm just switching to Nijisanji
Ok zhang, you were exposed in this thread.

>> No.17119939

>>17115434
not all she liked where sucking up to her.
https://twitter.com/iyatemu/status/1485138635120947202

>> No.17119974

>>17119832
Sure anon, soon the whole HoloEN fanbase will be zhangs sharing the same thoughts

>> No.17120017

Kronii almost 17K

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>Not even 20k
bad implementation of a good idea

>> No.17120028

>>17119404
>>17119751
suisei...
fubuki...
roboco...
choco...
matsuri...

>> No.17120125

>>17120019
it's really disappointing, they literally marketed this less than 24 hours from now, nobody knows this was happening

>> No.17120147

>>17120019
if the idea was to show me that luxiem is superior they done a good job

>> No.17120155

>>17117895
So what is Hololive? Lakers? Warriors?

>> No.17120157

>>17120028
the real hololive carry members right here
>roboco
>choco
>matsuri
also, 5 out of 50? damn, that really is the norm in JP

>> No.17120195

viewers took less than 20 mins to start dropping lol

>> No.17120296

>>17119751
In He, please, we were just talking about you

>> No.17120326

>>17120296
?

>> No.17120327

>>17120019
>>17120125
Or you guys can stop being fucking hacks and take a look at the fact that this stream had a 15k waiting room and has only gained 2k viewers when anyone with 50iq knows that’s not even remotely realistic for any single holo

They’re getting culled to hell and back.

>> No.17120356

>>17120157
and? only 3 en members have collabed with homos

>> No.17120376

>>17120028
All of these people have literally never collabed with holostars.
Stop making shit up schizo

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>>17120327
>stream had a 15k waiting room
They rescheduled the stream for 15 minutes, idiot

>> No.17120572

>>17120019
>15k waiting room
>2k incline since the stream started
>Random dips in CCV before it finally crawled 15k
This is obviously not normal behavior.

>> No.17120655

>>17120028
>Suisei
songs only, including dudes that are not even vtubers
>Fubuki
the only regular successful holo that hangs out with the stars
>Roboco
who?
>Choco
who?
>Matsuri
you mean, the Needy Streamer Girl?

>> No.17120725

>>17120475
Yeah and the waiting room doubled in that 15 minutes. What’s your point? That 8k people come into the stream within 15 mins but 2k people come in after 30? While their likes are well above 10k after putting up a stream frame 20 mins prior to original listing? Get real.

>> No.17120749

>>17120475
kek, and? flare started her stream 30 minutes late and still grew way past her waiting room
https://vrabi.ml/video/WrNe8mDLT-A

>> No.17120779

>>17120572
>15k waiting room
>>17120475
>Random dips
This is the norm at the moment, it happens to everyone

>> No.17120857

the point is that EVERYONE is getting culled
why can't ENshitters understand that

>> No.17120884

Reading all these anti council posts and the posts praising NijiEN make so much more sense after the Niji shitters were exposed as zhang agitators.

>> No.17120917

>>17120155
JP is the almost dynasty Warriors, En is the current Lakers, Gura with the consistency, Mori with a good performance then tend to do retarded things and Kronii with once in a while good performance.

>> No.17121060

>>17120725
>>17120749
Open a fucking stream, it's a flop nobody wants to watch. Robot voices killed all interest

>> No.17121178

>>17120884
you're a paranoid schizophrenic

>> No.17121197

>>17120655

>'JP doesn't really collabs with the Stars though'
>People mention Holos that did collabs with them
>Ahhh but this one counts, this one doesn't..!

jeez

>> No.17121232

>>17120857
>Happens to everyone
>Meanwhile La+ grows in thousands within seconds on a fucking Ib stream
>Meanwhile half of HoloJP are breaking 10k at any moments notice when viewers come in
>Meanwhile JP waiting rooms recover within 2-3 mins and get every single viewer coming in shown

Meanwhile, at HoloEN and ID
>Giant fucking recovery periods
>Can barely break waiting rooms half the time
>CCV gets soft capped and seemingly can’t break past a certain point despite activity from messages, vod views and likes all saying otherwise

But go on about unity cull

>> No.17121255

big numbers on stream
can we determine ACTUAL CCV with those?

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how to tell it's murrica hours
>fucking nba references...

>> No.17121296

>>17120884
Even before the male appears, nijien viewers were already chink leaf and seaniggers.

>> No.17121294

>>17121060
a flop would lose viewers, not keep them constant very near the stream peak

>> No.17121341

>>17121197
the whole branch =/= some outliers

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>>17121294

>> No.17121426

>>17121060
Surely that explains why the stream loses and gains 200 ccv every so often while gaining 2k likes within that timeframe. Or are we going to start the timeloop again of:

>Enter stream
>Like vod
>Leave
>Refuse to elaborate

>> No.17121431

>>17121178
a hell of a nice try, chang

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>>17121232
Honorary EN

>> No.17121576

>>17120019
seems on par with full council collabs tho

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>>17121353
nice zoom you disingenuous faggot

>> No.17121681

>>17121341
that was all the ones off top of my head so not sure if there are more jps, but the only ens that have collabed are mori, bea, and mumei.

>> No.17121766 [DELETED] 

>>17121681

Uh, Calli did it too

>> No.17121865

>>17121766

anon??

>> No.17122034

I wonder if Cover were testing waters for males with this "Ministry" gimmick.
And if that's true, what are their reaction on it having the worst CCV of all council meetings (except for Sana's second meeting)?

>> No.17122205

>>17122034
Cover doesnt need males,
they need game perms and new waves.

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>>17121585
Your graph shows yet another decline in viewers.
And if you want to focus on falling to 1 viewer, then even Vox is subject to this.

>> No.17122242

>>17122034
Gender swap isn't new concept anon ....

>> No.17122424

>>17122205
Well, it's not up to you to judge what they need.
They gonna announce males sooner or later, maybe even today.

>> No.17122556
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>>17122034
oh it's, Omegatranny approved
they want that fujo market and the only way to have success is by sharing audiences with the current fanbase, they are normalizing it little by little

>> No.17122580

>>17121276
hey basketball is cool ok? unlike that handegg thing

>> No.17122678

>>17122034
>testing waters for males
Definitely.
>what are their reaction on it having the worst CCV
Nothing. It's just one stream. Audience reaction is more important. Most people seem to think it's funny, at least they do in /hlgg/.

>> No.17122686

>>17122556
>they want that fujo market
>sharing audiences with the current fanbase (not fujo)
I see a slight problem here

>> No.17122708

>>17122556
omegatranny likes every en stream tweet

>> No.17122740

>>17122686
yes, they are that retarded

>>17122708
that's a RT

>> No.17122884

>>17122740
>that's a RT
everything is a like to me on twitter, anonchama, i dont give a fuck

>> No.17122933

>>17114566
What an asshole

>> No.17123037

>>17122884
for reference, the previous stream he gave a RT was the Holotalk with Yagoo

>> No.17123043

https://twitter.com/omarupolka/status/1486127073223901186
Polka is revealing her guests in kind of a cute way.

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>>17122556
He should go after the feminine shotas. That seems to be a hit and could be the answer for NA hours.

>> No.17123177

>>17123043
Who?

>> No.17123410

Let's stop talking about insignificant trash like holo and talk about some Big dogs - VShojo. Ironmouse is about to have a collab with some various vtubers in less than 1 hour.

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>>17123410

>> No.17123798

>>17123591
Most of these posts are true.

>> No.17123815

>>17123037
..along with a bunch of fanart and merch shill on the same day

>> No.17123940

>>17123043
>Second Guest
The first guest was Flare btw. Next reveal will be a 5th gen

>> No.17124030

>>17123043
I like that the first 2 are Flare and Towa. She is not wowing with big number people. I wonder if she will break out some bigger names. She could still get respectable enough numbers though, if she advertises it well.

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>only 89 dislikes
antibros..

>> No.17124237

>>17124030
Anything is better than what she's done in the past.

>> No.17124468

>>17119138
Nah, they just throwin shade at luxiem

>> No.17124574

I'll be unreasonably annoyed if Mumei and Kronii don't mention that they have a Terraria collab in 30 mins at the end of the stream.

>> No.17124597

Males during NA hours has been solved.

>Girly shota
>Lewd outfit
>Coomerbait BFE

All that's left is finding the perfect voice

>> No.17124752
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>1.2k waiting 30 minutes before the start
Maybe Rosemi will get good numbers today

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>> No.17124982

>>17124818
>bewbs and vajajay

>> No.17125330

>>17124752
Well ironmouse is more poular than her and is actually in english so maybe 3k-4k
unlike the angie one.

>> No.17125614

>>17114824
CR-hime is actually connected to a brand that people actually use. If Sony had an anime streaming service in Japan and had VERSEn attached to it, you bet they'd be more popular than what they are right now.

>> No.17125636

>Pretty much confirmed only Mori and Gura have POV
>despite Mori being the last minute addition to the group
man, hopefully she doesn't start drama with Gura

>> No.17125660

>17k
HoloMinistry got mogged by Luxiem

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>>17125636

>> No.17126040
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Feels like Monday

>> No.17126056
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Why is no one streaming at this time? Did anything happen?

>> No.17126159

>>17125660
ok zhang

>> No.17126228

>>17126159
is this really all you have to say?
what will you do when the flip happens? that burgers are zhangs too?

>> No.17126355

>17125660
go back to your containment thread, nigger

>> No.17126397

>>17126228
The flip won't happen since it was exposed that Luxiem is being propped up by Chinese hololive antis. Their viewership isn't authentic.

>> No.17126480

>>17113194
sure I wouldn't mind. Crunchyroll hime is actually alright, she just doesn't stream enough so I stopped trying to catch her.

>> No.17126488

>>17126397
sure anon, the Chinks were waiting until Luxiem debuted to act and not when NijiEN did (and Coco was still a holo), makes total sense that they waited if 6 months AFTER she left

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>>17126040
Yuka is destroying everyone right now. She's second only to Kuzuha in CCVs.

>> No.17126593

>>17126488
massive cope

Just look where the superchats are coming from and look at the time their viewership greatly increases. It all comes together but you are apparently too blind to see it.

>> No.17126678

>>17126593
Sure anon, sure, and they are boosting the males exclusively, a branch that literally has no market share with HoloEN, retard

>> No.17126775

>>17126678
so if there is no market share, why is the flip *ever* going to happen?

>> No.17126795

>>17126397
Thats not what happened at all, it was "exposed" that the overabundance of NijiEN shill posts/comments was possibley due to Holo antis. They have probably been at it since before Luxiem even existed.

>> No.17126820

>>17126056
Terraria collab starts in like 2 minutes.

>> No.17126823

>>17115246
anon that fucker is a known zhang who botted his likes on his last post declaring Hololive dead in 2021. I'm sure he'll declare it dead in 2023 as well.

>> No.17126867

>>17126593
>they waited 6 months after Coco graduated to start boosting nijis
>they are boosting the males, a fanbase that literally has nothing to do with holos
>stars are nothing, they are only making nijiJP look bad in comparison
>when they could have boosted directly nijiJP

>> No.17126903

>>17114035
>>17114101
>>17114114
Why would Cover be spooked by a video like that? The entire video frames the ordeal as "Mori used some strong-willed language to deal with insulting superchats that attacked her friends," and the comments are all saying she's a saint dealing with bad people and they wish for her recovery. It's literally the squeaky Reddit narrative and barely touches on anything at all related to Connor or Mori's specific Twitter/Reddit meltdown.

>> No.17126969

10k eaiting for gura
6k waiting for mori
So 15k-17k fir gura
And probabky 8k-10k for mori after 30min. Depending on ccvid

>> No.17127009

>>17124752
Oh shit, amazing numbers for Rosemi
She might even beat Gura

>> No.17127038

>>17126775
moving the goal now? well, sure I can reply to that
(1) holoEN starts normalizing male interactions, one of the few aspects that separated them from other companies
(2) they will go with ecelebs next, thanks to Mori stubbornness
(3) people will start discovering that other companies exist and the line will keep banishing
it doesn't help that they are leaving a lot of free time between streams and nijiEN is covering almost all time slots

>> No.17127097

>>17126969
Nvm it was delayed 15min

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I had to check that Gura had SC enabled. This is fucking pathetic. Just how much of her audience are children?

>> No.17127172

>>17127100
it doesn't matter, Mori is baiting the cucks again and they will always pay to >BTFO the antis

>> No.17127180

>>17127100
Gura doesnt get sc until she starts streaming

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>>17126488
>>17126678
>>17127038

>> No.17127228

>>17127038
ok zhang

>> No.17127239

>>17127172
Go cry to your mommy chumpedo and maybe your mommy'll probably give you some pocket money to SC Gura with

>> No.17127304

>>17127100
>cuckbraps sending all their money to Mori
I salute her ability to farm numbers in this situation.

>> No.17127312

>>17127228
>>17127219
and going back to the start, is this everything you got? really, it doesn't mean anything to me

>> No.17127364

>>17127312
Sure thing zhang.

>> No.17127380

>>17127038
... So do you mean that the flip will never happen and HoloEN will basically just lose the marketshare that they already corner the market on? cause I'm gonna be frank, yes the ENmales have managed to tap a market that HoloEN hasn't managed to grab so far, but that still doesn't explain how that is going to be wrangled into capturing the parts of the Holo sphere that is not interested in male streamers - since NijiEN's first 3 waves are still basically growing at a snails pace, if at all.

>> No.17127399

>>17127100
6.7% of her viewers are 13-17.
77% are 18-34, the remainder are 34+
This is directly from Cover's confidential collab shilling infopacket.

>> No.17127410

>>17127364
>post something
>reply against it
>have else nothing to say
>"ok zhang"
says a lot from you

>> No.17127413

>>17127312
>random punctuation
>missing punctuation
>no capitalization
ESL as fuck. You are an actual zhang.

>> No.17127486

>>17120019
its not a good idea, its a terrible idea. If you wanna male larp at least keep androgynous looks. This just shoves all the straight guys away.also for the love of god dont try to attract hetero shippers, they are a cancer that will metastasize out of control and in weird and disgusting directions.

>> No.17127494

>>17127413
You don't need to give me multiple (You) anon, yo can fit your reply on one post, pretty sure you have 5k chars

>> No.17127504

>>17127410
Ching chong lu ogey zhang wong

>> No.17127512

>>17112210
Based

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>>17127410

>> No.17127643

>All those red supas
Yeah, no matter how retarded she acts after all. She reached Kson levels of gachikois.
Literally she can leave Hololive now because she is set for life with those paypigs.

>> No.17127671

>>17127560
really, it doesn't have any effect on me, I don't know why you keep trying
I guess your brain doesn't have enough

>> No.17127717

>>17127671
>really, it doesn't have any effect on me
said anon, as he replied yet again

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pay attention to zilverk, they will start a campaign with the spics to reach a gura on youtube and it is very likely that they will reach it

>> No.17127823

>>17127717
Because you keep trying and I'm still waiting for your reply, all yo do is move the goal and deflect

>> No.17127901

>>17127643
antis dont and will never understand how to hurt a person. They are radical and that leads to plarization which makes the toher size fight back and the other size is bigger.

same shit with the taiwan yab. Unless you have numbers on your side making a fus will only benefit the other side.

>> No.17127918

https://twitter.com/murasakishionch/status/1486145269368442883
She is back. This will be nice numbers.

>> No.17127946

>>17127823
I'm just curious when you zhangs gave up trying to attack Hololive and moved onto propping up their competition? You know this will just help Hololive in the long run when your partners in zhang crime get bored and the viewership for Luxiem plummets right?

>> No.17127987

>>17127100
Pretty normal, people want to say "fuck the haters you are amazing Mori"

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>> No.17128059

>>17127946
Again, this means nothing to me, I was going to ask if your brain had enough neurons to retain information but it's obvious that this is not the case

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>>17128038
peak

>> No.17128155

JWU and saw Kronii's genderbend joke. God, they are much more better looking than Luxiem.

>> No.17128169

>>17127798
Why does this trash fucking site keep adding random spic channels, this is not a vtuber you neuron-deficient japs.

>> No.17128189

>>17128059
>This means nothing to me
And yet you keep replying zhang. Seems like I touched a nerve. Did my theory hit too close to the truth? Did I break down your fragile house of cards?

>> No.17128261

>>17127918
Sadly she is coming back during primetime, definitely get better numbers closer to her usual slots.

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>>17128120

>> No.17128313

>>17128189
I'm really having fun with you, probably SEA by those antics, it's like having a pet monkey and training him to shit where he must but keeps doing it because he simply doesn't understand

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/#/'s car

>> No.17128477

>>17128313
Ogey zhang chong

>> No.17128523

>>17128477
Not on the sofa! Bad monkey! Bad!

>> No.17128662

Numbers time
Gura 13k
Mori 8k

>> No.17128764
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#s do not matter at all. The only true measure of the quality of a vtuber - or anything at all, for that matter - is my opinion, which is the only one that matters.

>> No.17128773

>>17128662
>PNG Gura
really hardworking girls!
cover is a great tech company!

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>>17128523

>> No.17128846
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looks like it'll take over 10 mins for gura to get waiting room

>> No.17128857
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AND THE GOD SAY TO ROSEMI
YOU WONT GET NUMBERS TODAY

Also gura not reaching her waiting room
and mori looks stuck after reaching it.

>> No.17128875

ChocoSubaLuna will be releasing a cover, too bad it's on Choco channel.

>> No.17128945

>>17128857
I fucking hate Susan so much

>> No.17128972

>>17128846
Go Gura go! Crawl to the waiting room, your can do it!

>> No.17129005

Just realize there is a collab between NijiEN, VOMS and Vshojo on Rosemi's channel. But well HoloEN has drama buff and collab buff so...

>> No.17129049
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Susan...

>> No.17129071

>>17128842
I have like 5gb of Mao an Xi /pol/ memes, I'm telling you this doesn't affect me in any way
I know you brain is small, hopefully you understand this time

>> No.17129103

>>17128857
>mori looks stuck after reaching it.
Her waiting room peaked at 9.4k so she's not even there yet

>>17128972
>18k waiting room
>14781 -> 14800
Validating viewers 20 at a time. Let's go Susan.

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>>17128846
10 mins in and around 3.5k off

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>>17129071
Ogey zhang

>> No.17129275

>>17128846
She isn't going to get over her waiting room numbers because Terraria isn't a buff game.
It'll even be a miracle for her to get 15k today

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>> No.17129314

Susan..the waiting room numbers you bitch..

>> No.17129334

>>17129275
>She isn't going to get over her waiting room numbers because Terraria isn't a buff game.
nigga it makes no sense to dissapear 4k people out of nowhere.

>> No.17129347

>>17129181
Well there it goes my hope, I wonder if you are the same seamonkey that didn't understand what a median was, the deflection style seems oddly familiar

>> No.17129362

>>17129275
shes already at 15.5k. i think it'll be around 25-30mins for her to get waiting room

>> No.17129406

>>17129275
>She isn't going to get over her waiting room numbers because Terraria isn't a buff game.
Since when the fuck is this ever a factor? Ever? If it wasn't a buff game the waiting room would be just as small.

>> No.17129432

>>17129049
>click the bell button
>close the stream

>> No.17129441

>>17129334
You do know anyone can just click the "reminder on" button and just not watch right?
I do it all the time for smaller Vtubers whose streams I miss/decide not to watch

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Elu without competition easily reaches her mean.

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>>17129115
2k off waiting room 17 mins in

>> No.17129627

>>17129275
Did you also think that a single POV ark collab on Guras channel not beating her decemeber median was normal?

>> No.17129638

>>17129441
clicking the remind button doesnt put you on the waiting room. you NEED to have it open.

>> No.17129662

>>17129281
>Reddit Duck has less AVG CCV and much less watch hours than Miko
What happened Reddit Duck shills. I thought you were saying she surpassed Miko. Haha, go fuck yourselves.

>> No.17129699

>>17129275
Braindead take.
If Terraria was a debuff game, there wouldn't be 18k people in the waiting room.

>>17129441
Any more conspiracy theories for how you have 3000 people waiting for 5 minutes for the stream to start that vanish when the stream actually starts?

>> No.17129731

>>17129441
Shut the fuck up nigger, this pattern literally is new since December. Do you people not watch streams as well? Do you just come into the numbers thread and reply to people point out Susan fuckery with "ackshually this could be explained by the entire fanbase changing behaviors over night"?

>> No.17129745

>>17129281
>Koyori and Lamy

WTF. that stream hours.

>> No.17129749

>gura is probaly a 20k right now
>mori is 10k
>rosemi is probably 5k since FUCKING IRONMOUSE DOESNT EVEN HAVE A POV ON TWITCH

I FUCKING HATE YOU SUSAN SO GODDAM MUCH

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>>17129638
pffft

>> No.17129822

Mori finally reached her waiting room, after 20 fucking minutes.

>> No.17129820
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This is really odd. Eastern prime time is so dead right now.

>> No.17129888

>>17129822
Gura never will

>> No.17129889

>>17129749
It's honestly twice as sad for NijiEN since though no one can deny their numbers are worse than the males, Susan's fuckery makes them look pathetic instead of just weaker

>> No.17129897

>>17129699
Not too long ago an 18k waiting room would mean a solid 30k stream at the very least. Most likely more however.

Now an 18k waiting room means a 16k stream, lmao. Fuck off Susan and fix your fucking website.

>> No.17129913

>>17129820
Gura still culled

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>>17129888
shes at 16.7k. she seems to be getting burst of ccv followed by periods of slow growth

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>>17127100
Update. Mori with almost 50x superchat.

>> No.17130028
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EN is truly culled

>> No.17130089
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Even with the CCVID, Holos still destroy their competition.

>> No.17130133

>>17130028
And unlike last time, this one will never get rolled back.

>> No.17130159

>>17129820
>Kuzuha
>10h+
I don't watch Tokyo Ghoul, did he seriously stream through the whole fucking night since midnight? It's almost 11AM in Japan.

>> No.17130182

>>17130028
People need to ask mori,rosemi or gura what was the ccv of these streams after a day.
there is no way any of these 3 are this low.
Mori is on break and gura never talks about numbers so it only leaves rosemi.

>> No.17130214

>>17130159
This is what he usually do before his idol reps.

>> No.17130239

>>17130159
Kuzuha endurance streams are legendary

>> No.17130278

>>17130008
collab debuff for gura and drama buff for mori

>> No.17130322

>>17130008
Your update is meaningless and it's ignoring what's going on with Mori and these being "le stay based we love you" superchats. I mean she usually beats the shit out of Gura in superchats sure, but having this much in collabs is weird and your shitposting is ignoring why

>> No.17130362

>>17130159
I think he said he was overseas during the big valorant collab.

>> No.17130441

>>17130089
They are overlapping with 3 other corpo collab, perhaps this is mandate collab by EN management.

>> No.17130472

>>17130159
>>17130214
>>17130239
Ok zhangs

>> No.17130492

>>17130214
>>17130239
>>17130362
Respect. I don't care for Valorant or Apex but good for him for putting in the hours.

>> No.17130499

>>17130322
What it means is that not having yabs and not going on Trash Taste/etc does absolutely nothing for Gura. So why shouldn't she do the same if that's how you get money in HoloEN?

>> No.17130555

Males lost to shark?

>> No.17130561

>>17130492
Outing yourself zhang

>> No.17130576

>>17130028
Huh. NijiEN seem hit hard by CCVID compared to Holos.

Based on the chat speed and likes, Rosemi should be beating Gura's numbers, but Susan likes fucking with Niji numbers I guess

>> No.17130662

>>17130089
>"NijiEn big Collab?"
>"Release the shark"

>> No.17130714
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10k get for Calli.
Susan really hates vtubers.

>> No.17130720

Fking susan don't want gura reach her waiting room huh? Hovering around 17k now.

>> No.17130728

>>17130576
now you are going to say Gura having more than 4 times the waiting room is irrelevant

>> No.17130930
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Holos and Vspos not contesting this elf. Where are all the gamers gone?

>> No.17131090

>rosemi literally stuck in 3.4k
>just 0.1 off her witing room
i hope whover replace fiz is a numberfag and removes whatever shitty fitlers they have put.

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>>17130576
if you going to bait do it with something you can't immediately check

>> No.17131131

>>17130728
>caring waiting room numbers
>when people can just click the "reminder on" button then fuck off
Ngmi...

>> No.17131180

>>17131090
Not surprising. Their collab is so dry. There's no chemistry between them.

>> No.17131235

>>17130133
I don't know, maybe the new head of Youtube Gaming will fix this

>> No.17131272

>>17131131
that's not how it works retard, you NEED to have the wait room open for this to count
why are you retarded? open any other waitroom and you can see the count going down after people leaves

>> No.17131303

>>17131131
where the fuck has this rrat came from?
also, gura's about got her waiting room 35 mins in

>> No.17131357
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Wactor is also inclining. Their numbers should rival NijiEN females median now.

>> No.17131358

>VOD views are just people waiting 30 seconds then leaving, likes are just people liking then leaving, polls are just people voting then leaving
Today joined by
>waiting rooms are just people waiting then leaving

>> No.17131366

>>17131235
lol
lmao

>> No.17131386

>>17131131
>4 TIMES

>> No.17131429

Gura finally reach 18k.....

>> No.17131433

>>17131358
impressive nijiCOEP

>> No.17131467

Rosemi is a CCV debuff confirmed. Not even other companies can save her. She should graduate ASAP

>> No.17131519

>>17131235
Probably not unless someone from Hololive will join Youtube Gaming

>> No.17131577

Kronii ffs open your frame!!! Big collab only 2 frames wth is this?

>> No.17131615

>>17131235
I'm not sure how much farther you can fall from having a cryptoshill as the leader.

>> No.17131642

>>17131577
she has coneection issues
can only conenct to the game

>> No.17131711

>>17131642
Mumei? Fauna that actually knows how to play the game?

>> No.17131762

>>17130362
>he was overseas
Wait, he left Japan?

>> No.17131856

>>17131711
mumei is a wild card
she had to get her pet from the petcenter and didnt have time to rpepare a frame.

>> No.17131908

>>17130714
Anon
>Is Terraria
>No mods
I would say her numbers are goods considering the current scenario
>inb4 the whole drama only helped her to gain more viewers and gachikois

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>> No.17131961

>>17131856
Gura's frame doesn't look too prepared for me to be honest, she doesn't even have a L2D

>> No.17132038

>>17131961
maybe wifi issues again.
the cover app shits the bed asily for voerseas.

>> No.17132134

>>17131577
If one of them open another frame, they reach 30k+ ccv combine by now. The numberfag in me gets angry.....

>> No.17132147

Ooph that plateu at 18k. Why do you guys care abotu Susan's magic numbers again?

>> No.17132382
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Today's superchats

>> No.17132662

>3.76 mil subs
>only 18k viewers for a 5 man collab
Where did HoloEN all go wrong and how did it all go so right for NijiEN

>> No.17132690

>>17132147
Because it's easier to shit on HoloEN this way. I mean, we know the CCVID bullshit affected JP more the last time around, but JP hasn't had any relays or anything that would cause mass flagging, while NA has.
It's definitely not going to get fixed at this rate since NO ONE IN EN GIVES TWO FUCKS AND THEU STOPPED POSTING POLLS.
Honestly, fine. If the girls don't care about the numbers then they can remain culled. If they're not willing to fight then they can roll over and die.

>> No.17132754

>>17132382
Oh the meltdown when the monthly chart comes out and Luxiem mogged all of HoloEN

>> No.17132815
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17132815

Susan, are you /here/?

>> No.17132872
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>>17132662

you mean so right for the *Niji males, right?

>> No.17132926

>>17130499
Drama and casual EOP attention only works for short term. See Aki, Towa, and aqua (early 2021?) where they get EOP attention and see those people dumps them within a month or two when the next fotm distracts them.
Which is also why mainstream western streamers/e-celebs lives and breathes drama by clout cashing and dishing out hot takes so that they can pretend to be relevant for their ever transient audience.
JP audience in the other hand, which applies to both Holo and Niji, are a lot more passionate and invested to the medium. Which is why some talents such as Mito had been constantly be able to get 20k CCV since 2018/2019. Same with Aqua/Pekora that could get 20k+ since early 2020.

The core problem for EN VTuber is that their largely, 3rd world and/or western male, lacks any standards whatsoever, especially when compared to the JP audience. This dissolves the 'culture/expectations' of the talent like a race to the bottom to get the most (albeit transient) lowest common denominator audience.

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>>17132662

>> No.17133094

>>17132662
Demand gura to open her analitics

>> No.17133131
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>>17132662
They are destroying HoloEN.

>> No.17133150

>>17131762
no, i'm just retarded
it was a running joke about his ping and i was halfway listening to someone else's stream

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>>17127918
I fucking miss this brat

>> No.17133216

Stop complaining here and go to Twitter you fucking dumb fuck

>> No.17133265

>>17133131
Holy shit, look at their stream hours. HoloEN are lazy fucks

>> No.17133299

>>17133216
And say what? Youtube is unironically like this thread's shitposters.
>Hey what's up with these waiting room to live viewer disparity
>Ackhsually people can just leave

>> No.17133457

>>17133265
I don´t care, i´m only here to shit in the side who has the smaller numbers.

>> No.17133471

>>17133131
Wait for Vox Chinkshit Whale sream.
It will be over 15K

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>>17132754
can't wait to see retards claim nijien mogged ALL of hololive while blatantly ignoring holojp's usual top earners and superchat monsters from holox.
fun fun fun

>> No.17133557
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17133557

it has been a while since it was discussed.
so, are >we participate in divegrass or not

>> No.17133563

>>17133471
>>17133457

>> No.17133587

>>17133471
Fortune teller are we now.

>> No.17133730

>>17133557
Is /ggg/ not active enough to be included here?

>> No.17134031

>>17132382
January superchats so far
>Rushia - $137,741
>Chloe - $98,791
>Koyori - $91,953
>Pekora - $76,948
>Iroha - $69,190
>Vox - $66,214
>Matsuri - $61,339
>Ike - $59,924
>Nene - $54,973
>Fuwa - $51,399
>Towa - $50,411
>Kanata - $48,596
>Lamy - $48,577
>Mori - $46,101
>kson - $45,660
>Miko - $44,087
>Subaru - $44,085
>Kiara - $43,713
>Watame - $40,379
>Mysta - $39,662
>Lui - $35,755
>Chihiro - $35,384
>Laplus - $33,174
>Luna - $32,942
>Noel - $32,908
>Luca - $31,810
>Okayu - $31,034
>Amelia - $30,473

>> No.17134036

>>17133557
Don't know. I just wanna discuss numbers and shit on Niji, that's all.

>> No.17134069

>>17133131
Damn monhun is really numbers poison huh, good for baelz to get somewhat decent numbers on it ytd.

>> No.17134123

https://youtu.be/pFgUluV_00s
10 million projection? around March?

>> No.17134168

>>17128169
They do research before adding channels, he's a VTuber.
He uses a 3D model full time for every single Twitch stream and YouTube video now, it's the same situation as Nyanners who IS counted.
If those Japanese old PNGTubers that call themselves VTubers and collab with VTubers are considered as VTubers by their communities, then ZilverK should be considered one as well, since he uses a 3D model, calls himself a VTuber, and collabs with VTubers too.

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I think we have a case of another Bora situation here. A KR vtuber who speaks only JP, colllabs only with the vtubers on the JP scene, she was practically a defacto JP vtuber.
Niji males only get numbers during JP prime time and seldom stream at EN hours. NijiEN has completely failed to expand their viewer base.
They're still struggling to break through the 7k viewer cap.

>> No.17134251

Just realized the absurdity of having to debate whether waiting room should lead to way more numbers.
Not only do we have data for years of it being the case, but even on twitch the waiting viewership is always slammer by a huge percentage. And its logical too, people prefer to just do something else until you actually stream, you're actually past your intro etc

>> No.17134295

>>17134178
>cant break the 7k cap
>Mysta and Vox regularly get 15k CCV by themselves
???

>> No.17134333

>>17134178
They need 7 streams at this time slot pls understand.

>> No.17134335

Have you guys read Susan's letter?
https://blog.youtube/inside-youtube/letter-susan-our-2022-priorities/

>YouTube stands apart from other platforms because it offers a single destination for gaming creators to tell their stories across multiple video formats: livestreaming, VOD, and Shorts.
>That’s why last year we were thrilled to bring top creators Ludwig, DrLupo, and TimTheTatman to stream exclusively on YouTube and to build even further on their VOD content ambitions.
>We want to improve the live experience for all creators, as well as viewers. In particular, we’re focusing on better live discoverability and more chat features.
>And our teams are working to make it even easier for creators and users to create gaming-related Shorts.
>Coming up this year, we’ll also roll out one of our top-requested features, Gifted Memberships.

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>>17127798
He's at 1.35m now. Miko is next.

>> No.17134427

>>17134295
>regularly
retard

>> No.17134462
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>>17134335
hypocrisy

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>>17134335
>top creators
>dr lupo
this nigga streams twice as much as nijiEN and has the same VOD views LOL

>> No.17134541

>>17134335
>Gifted Memberships
Fuck the fuck off Susan you cunt don't you dare ruin mengen streams forever

>> No.17134629

>>17134471
She should watch gura vods numbers

>> No.17134647

>>17134335
So the ONLY thing they're doing for livestreaming is adding gift membership?
How the fuck did it take them more than a few months to even implement this.

>> No.17134713

>>17132382
>gacha whale stream
>$1457
Damn. Am I missing something?

>> No.17134745

>>17134471
He also has higher CCV than nijiEN according to his metrics, really makes no sense

>> No.17134785

>>17127100
damn that's a lot of condom money. Cuckbrap really doesn't care about Hololive just like Mori. They even straight up ignore the fact that Mori is defending trash that insults her coworkers.

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This might be useful, use it as you see fit

>> No.17134870

>17134785
Create another fucking bait thread if you feels like it and stop shitting this one up

>> No.17134891

>>17134335
>Gifted Memberships
Can't wait for member streams to be shit up and have their content leaked by retards who aren't welcome.

>> No.17134899

Bros, ccvid is getting worse isn't it?

>> No.17134929

>>17134870
Hell, there's already a topical one in the catalogue.

>> No.17135001

>>17134899
I think so, yeah.

>> No.17135020

>>17134629
Why would Susan care about some anime girl's numbers when Ludwig and Valkyrae mog them

>> No.17135040

>>17134899
Well, I'm pretty sure TeamYT blacklisted my account because I complain almost every day and the last reply we had was on the 21 I think

>> No.17135046

>>17134899
It's bad for HoloEN and NijiEN right now. Not as bad as it got before the flags got rest for JP, but it's definitely present right now. However, since the EN girls refuse to do anything about it (no polls, etc), then they can die alongside the dwindling fake numbers.

>> No.17135098

do i count as a viewer if i watch other utube videos(not livestreams) while watching my oshi?

>> No.17135128

>>17135098
Bots don't count as viewers

>> No.17135146

>>17134335
>We’re always focused on expanding the YouTube ecosystem to help creators capitalize on emerging technologies, including things like NFTs, while continuing to strengthen and enhance the experiences creators and fans have on YouTube.
Even Youtube want NFT too

>> No.17135177

>>17135128
rude...

>> No.17135227

>>17135046
>Refuse
You all just talked to them once

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>>17135040
last somewhat related reply I think
It was regarding the 1 viewer bug though

>> No.17135253

>>17134891
Can't you just disable that shit?

All the good shit will be moved to roommate accounts and that's a pain to keep up with.

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>>17135230
and this one

>> No.17135312

>>17135230
Fix one thing but still ccvid is there

>> No.17135363

>>17135146
Of course they do, it's easy money if you're the one running the operation.
Why do you think game companies were trying to convince people it's good.

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>>17116110
Holy based

>> No.17135500

>>17135272
This one's not a "we'll fix it" though, it's a "deal with it.

>> No.17135871

>>17116110
Ui really has done well for not alienating the Holos. Her career is going smoothly. I'm really happy for her.

>> No.17135888
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Susan really doesn't like Gura huh

>> No.17136242

>>17135888
Or you know, Gura is reclining.
Makes more sense than "the CEO of a major social media company has a grudge against a literal who streamer"

>> No.17136379

>>17115761
That's because, shitposting or not, 90% of the schizoposts around here are about "getting mad that Calli has a male friend", with "hating Connor because he talked shit about hololive" beina fig leaf justification at best. I don't know if it's just shitposting or if we have reached the point where the proverbial retards in good company have come to run the asylum, but from an external perspective it makes no difference. Poe's law and all that.

>> No.17136384

>>17136242
Or you know you can accept the culling is real nijinnigger

>> No.17136383
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17136383

Rosemi is struggling to make the collab interesting despite having IronMouse and Pikamee on board. The numbers for this stream is quite low. You guys think she regret leaving her previous company the way she did? I think it really left a perma black stain on her reputation she's having trouble growing her new fanbase.

>> No.17136451

>>17136242
Yes Gura who has been stable for nearly a year suddenly can't even reach her median from the previous month with buff content.

>> No.17136489

>>17136383
nah, this is just more evidence that YT is fucking with their numbers, IM alone can get 5k easy

>> No.17136557

>>17136489
I have contacted the folks over at the Federal Agency of Good Streamers and we concluded is a natural recline.

>> No.17136568

>>17136383
Fuck off Tsunderia intern, imagine trying to convince /#/ of all places she was wrong to leave that shithole

>> No.17136601

>>17136489
Some already sent that to youtubeteam today?

>> No.17136615

>>17136451
Do you not know what reclining means nigger

>> No.17136699

>>17136601
i dont think rosebuds are that active but i would send a tweet later. i was jsut saving the coount from gura and mori stream on video.
Will include the Vrbid graphs

>> No.17136724
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It's really worrisome a huge collab by a NijiEN streamer streaming on NijiEN prime time is blown away by a regular Apex stream of a low-mid tier NijiJP talent and she's a female to boot.

>> No.17136755

>>17136615
Ok you're retarded, nvm.

>> No.17136765

>>17136615
Do you not know what cullling means nijinnigger

>> No.17136806

>>17135363
NFTs will never not be silly to me. They just seem like a way to scam 30 something white collar workers trying to invest in something with their extra income.

>> No.17136866

>>17136724
Just look at the graph you dumb negro, it's pretty obvious her numbers are being fucked in the ass

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>>17136383
She's the only one unable to get her waiting room numbers. Even Ollie managed to do that.

>> No.17136996

>>17136699
I just don 't get it, they fixed the SEA and j JP youtube but not the west side youtube. This was supossed global. How mane replies they need to have to understand that the problem isn't fixed yet

>> No.17136999

>>17136932
Is even more baffling since there areonly 3 povs and MOUSE isnt one of them. Rosemi is the only pov on youtube.

>> No.17137035

>>17136383
>>17136724
the funny thing is that the NijiEN females have been inclining since the dubut of the homos

holobrony-kun... your shitposting... did nothing...

>> No.17137073

>>17136996
well it was KINDA fixed we saw selen numbers incrase in real time. A problem is sitll there but is a lesser version.

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Their numbers aren't actually increasing.
NijiEN males are very competitive on JP hours I think it's safe to say that they should be compared with the JP talents from now on since they're basically JP streamers who speaks predominantly in English just like Wactor speaks in Spanish.

>> No.17137246

>>17136932
kek nijien combined can't even touch mori

>> No.17137359

>>17137073
Lesser? Gura have above 130k Vods on terraria stream. That would be above 25k -30k last year. Lesser isn't really the word

>> No.17137480

>>17137206
Westerners don't like watching the guys.
I wonder if some new wave of guys will cannibalize their numbers in the future.

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>>17137359
>it's true

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>>17137521
meanwhile Ludwig
>4 hours streaming
>to 25k ccv
>120k views
rumao

>> No.17137754

>>17137521
More like 130k people watching for 5 seconds then fucking off
Based on chat speed, Gura has more like 500 people actually watching her

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>>17137737
Ludwig just ended his game, that's why he has 15k btw

>> No.17137865

>>17137754
>Gura's chat is a constant stream of people warping in and out like some meme anime characters
These shitposts are getting more and more hilarious

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Elu's Apex stream is doing quite well for her. Much better than NijiEN's streams going on right now.

>> No.17138077

>>17137521
>>17137737
vod views are wirrd to compare given it takes different time dpeending on users.

>> No.17138188

>>17138077
Some people constantly get their vod frozen (Kiara) while others don’t (Gura).

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I wish Selen had half of her charisma. Watching her play makes you feel comfortable cause she's not a toxic player. She's absolutely dominating anyone on the EN branch.

>> No.17138280

>>17138077
Not stopping them, they're desperate to the point where they'll compare and ratio any seeable number with zero context
If Mori likes reading SC so much then go SC her about the CCV thing and hope that someone gives a shit to make a fuss on Twitter

>> No.17138462

>>17136379
That is either 90% larping shitposters or a categorically false assessment. Bae, Fauna, Mumei which that also applied to didn't cause nearly as much as a shit storm if any.
If anything, the 'male collab seethe' angle is largely a diversion to cope with how inappropriate the VTuber in question had chose to act recently.
Same can also be said with the 'toxic anti harrassing vtuber' angle. Since there aren't even much if any attacks to her account.
Most of the shit storm were people talking shit about her or her fanbase in forums despite the fact it could go way more involved had invested 'anti' been actually trying.

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It's without doubt the females are relegated to just being accessories to men. They really need to learn a few things from VSPO.

>> No.17138555

>>17113066
imagine how many (you)s you would have gotten with higher-effort bait.

>> No.17138676

>>17138280
there is geniune question about how much ccv realtes to vod views and viewtime.
For example last ozora talk and ame RFA stream.
After 4 hours of each ending
Ame was at 110k views and subaru at 140k. this with subaru having double the ccv of ame.
After 4 days we have 140k from ame and 180k from subaru.Then there is Hachama

>> No.17138730

>>17138273
But all Selen has is being toxic and laughing.

>> No.17138936

>>17138676
And I thought it's well known that VOD views after a stream ends are unreliable, and overtime more actual views are added in the equation thus making the comparison impossible?
Are you going to pretend that absolutely no one is going to touch that VOD after the stream ends and all the views accumulated there are from CCV? Or if you can differentiate between CCV views and VOD views?

>> No.17138963

Looks like stars just got their own version of Hologra. Any chance of an incline?

>> No.17139077

>>17138963
Its only on the Holostars youtube channel so good luck to them. Didn't even know that exists.

>> No.17139098

>>17138963
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1486179990840688641

>> No.17139119

>>17138963
If they're as good as Hologra, has English subs and the Stars actually promoting them.

>> No.17139149

>>17138963
Hard to tell since they're also still being affected by CCVID but if VOD views are of any indication, then yes they did grow quite a bit since their last concert.

>> No.17139178

>>17138963
In fact, if the quality is better than Holograph, I can see holo fans shitting on them even more.

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>>17138963
>>17139098
>stars hologra
BIG W
>on the stars channel
HUUUUGE L

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>>17138963
HoloEN where?

>> No.17139556

>>17139396
Doomed to fail. English speaking culture sucks.

>> No.17139588

>>17139396
I can imagine that they probably already have skits and recordings done for HoloEN but are waiting for them to do their 3D debuts first. The HoloEN girls occasionally talk about recordings they have but never specify what they’re doing.
>>17139226
To be expected. Stars videos are all translated iirc.

>> No.17139663

>>17139588
>I can imagine that they probably already have skits and recordings done for HoloEN but are waiting for them to do their 3D debuts first
This would be the smart thing to do. Start banking content ahead of time.

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>>17139226
this is funny

>> No.17139788

>>17139098
Pretty good. Will check out.

>> No.17139799

>>17139588
>talk about recordings
Songs and porn

>> No.17139878
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Do y'all think Mori hires SEA help to spread anti messages or do they do it for free knowing al it'll do is make her a lot of money?

>> No.17139882

>>17139556
Ame's sketches are pretty good.

>> No.17139959

>>17138462
From an external perspective it makes no difference, especially since 90% of the posts about it are of the "oh no no no cuckbeats getting cucked" variety. You try convincing anyone that the people who post the deadbeat getting cucked image are actually angry about connor's statements and not "male collabs bad".
Anyway this is why containment breaking used to be looked down on before the inmates started running the asylum

>> No.17140000

>>17139878
nah, there's a reason why the top porn searches in the US and canada are cuck or blacked, they literally enjoy that shit

>> No.17140071

>>17139959
>>17140000
Case in point

>> No.17140221

>>17139878
>sc in a collab
Cuckbeats

>> No.17140222

>>17140000
So the people anti posting Mori are being cucked? Are they doing this on her behalf in order to enrich her?

>> No.17140286

>>17140000
>>17140071
case in point

>> No.17140288

>>17140071
The cuckbeat cries out in pain as he strikes you

>> No.17140299

>>17140221
Yes, had there been no anti spam then Mori likely wouldn't have $9,000 in superchats. So are the ones spreading anti posts at least getting paid or are they making Mori money for free?

>> No.17140324

>>17136765
Nijiniggers were revealed to be zhangs. No point in arguing in good faith with them.

>> No.17140337

>>17139959
>>17140221
Example two

>> No.17140431

>>17140000
>>17140337
example two, they seem to be proud of this

>> No.17140438

Having more antis means more SCs. Look at Kiara, once her antis get less active, her SCs are dropping.

>> No.17140701

>>17140438
Saviorfagging is the strongest SC buff there is.

>> No.17140709

>>17138462
So yeah go ahead and convince me its actually about Connor and not just male collabs

>> No.17140723

>>17140299
As someone who I'm sure you'd call a Mori anti her cuckolds can give her all the money in the world but it doesn't make her happy so it's not something that bothers me

>> No.17140750

>>17134785
The harder people anti-post the harder the loyal fanbase and unity advocates respond in support. This entire thing unironically vindicated Mori into a Coco-lite status. No normal person from the outside would look at the entire debacle and think Mori did anything wrong.

>> No.17140755
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Holos and their friends just destroying everyone.

>> No.17140767

>>17140324
October... Name calling... Home...

>> No.17140808

>>17139396
>black humor
Uhm.. what do they mean by this?

>> No.17140831

>>17140755
The western market…

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