/asp/ - Aspiring Vtuber and Startups

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What is /asp/?

A thread for aspiring vtubers! Whether your goal is to make the journey as an independent streamer or to gain experience and build a portfolio for agency auditions. Let's help each other grow and make it. Indies are welcome to selfpost, but shill responsibly. Share your knowledge, insights, feedback, discuss what has worked and what hasn't worked for you. And always remember to do your research before posting personally identifying information. That includes both in this thread and in your audition applications to agencies.

FAQ:
>Do I need a fully rigged model to be a vtuber?
Nope! You can get started as a simple .png character!

>I want to learn how to rig Live2D models, where do I go?
Brian Tsui (of Iron Vertex), Kira Omori and the official Live2D YouTube channels have many tutorials available.

>Where can I find artists/riggers?
vtuber.gg, ArtStation, DeviantArt, Twitter, Reddit, Skeb.jp, etc.

>I just want to get started, can I buy pre-made models?
Yes! Live2D models can be purchased off nizima.com (Live2D's official marketplace) or booth.pm (general Japanese indie artist website). Be sure to check compatibility with your facial tracking software!

>Where can I learn how to digital market myself?
https://learndigital.withgoogle.com/digitalgarage

>Where can I find some good games to stream?
https://twitchtracker.com/games
https://sullygnome.com/

>Twitch or YouTube?
The general rule of thumb is Twitch if your content is primarily based on livestreaming and YouTube if your content is primarily pre-recorded and edited.

>Do you think there's an audience for X, Y, Z content?
First, ask yourself if you would watch a streamer of your skill and experience. Second, do a check on social media and look to see if other streamers are already creating similar content. Don't limit yourself to vtubers, include traditional real life streamers to scope out a potential audience.

Pastebin Guides and Resources:
General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
OpSec Guide: https://pastebin.com/uALiNZCV
"avoid doing this shit": https://pastebin.com/vbp6qEdt

Google Doc of Assets and Resources: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQHyRDZ3nxlIINfZz_wWCbgQ9gR4OgbTFhyGwq45DseUixkJJKbUmhPjnkWcmh7dOCDdxObAZXv_zti/pubhtml

Stay grounded, stay hopeful.
Start creating, stop tweeting.

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before bed bump

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>>16922623
How was your day anyaposter?

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It's hard not having as much time to stream as you'd like to.

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I did some edits to my VRoid in Blender, is there a way to directly export it as a .vrm or do i need to use Unity? Reversing the process i used for importing doesn't seem to work

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>ok with putting self out to the entire internet
>too scared to post VOD to shill myself while asking for critique
why is it like this

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>>16924119
You'll have to use Unity for that. Do your Blender work then export it to Unity to convert it to VRM.

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>have yt channel with ~800 subs
>upload vods (most are unlisted)
>test stream twitch VOD from December has only 15 views
>two other more recent VODS have 60 and ~35 views respectively
I-I'll make it someday

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>>16925178
you just going live on twitch is innocuous
you posting your vod here means outing yourself to a forum of anons
i get the hesitation; sometimes i want to post my vods too but people will just call me pathetic for still being at the point i'm at despite streaming for almost a whole year

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>>16925261
Alright, thanks anon

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>>16926085
No one but your existing viewers watch VODs so don't hope they'll help you at all. Highlights, clips, and premade content (memes, covers, etc) are all that matter

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I'm trying to find info on the last NijiEN application, and an article i found says "you must offer content multiple times a week for one year, if not longer". Is this accurate? I'm almost certain only a few in NijiEN have had PL's lasting a year + Also, are there other requirements besides age?

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>>16932167
>I'm almost certain only a few in NijiEN have had PL's lasting a year +
The majority of Nijisanji EN were streamers in their past life but had even more on top of that. For example Pomu was a uitate cover singer and idol irl before going indie and then finally applying to Nijisanji. Vox is one of the few who had the least streaming experience with barely 2 months but years of voice acting content creation prior to that. Even Finana who aspies love to treat as nothing more than just a vtweeter had a Twitch channel with 16k views.

As for the application it was close to the Hololive and just talked about what you wanted to do as a vtuber and why you wanted to join Nijisanji.

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>>16933671
>16k views
do you mean followers?
don't give me false hope...

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>>16933763
>do you mean followers?
No. 1.6k followers, 16k views.

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>>16933842
ahaha i still have one of those... just 1k short of the followers

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>>16932167
Offering content multiple times a week for at least a year is part of your work as a Nijisanji liver, not a requirement for applying. But it does seem like everyone they've hired so far had substantial content creation experience. That may change in the future, though.

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>>16934047
Just keep in mind that the bar for standards has been rising pretty rapidly since Lazulight came out. Rumor is they already have a 5th wave of another 5 males ready to go from the recent surge of indie graduations. So if you're thinking of applying to Nijisanji, it'd be compared against 5 total waves of streamers.

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>>16934597
that's still not as bad as what the girls have to deal with i'd imagine

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>>16934296
That makes more sense, the way the article read it seemed like it was a prerequisite.
>>16933671
I've got content creation that's been public for a long time, but nothing quite as lengthy regarding voice work or anything live. Hopefully if auditions roll around again I can use that as an advantage
>>16934597
Yeah The split wave is still a possibility, but it seems like a long time since the last audition, would be interesting if they were holding another wave in their pocket.
Out of curiosity, do you think the bars for entry for Males are lower than the Females? I only assume this because it looks like indy girl chuubas have more viewers

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>>16935764
>Out of curiosity, do you think the bars for entry for Males are lower than the Females?
Higher. At least for these waves. It's still a risky move for any corporation to invest into males so they're going to want to have demonstrable talent.

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>>16935764
I wouldn't worry about entry bars. These first few waves might just be stricter because they're a new market and Anykara wants to start off strong. (We know that there are totally new streamers in other branches after all.) You never know if and when they'll lower the bar, and it's better to be the first person to pass the lower bar than to wait and see if someone else makes it first. If you get rejected, just apply again later after streaming more. And if you do get in and I recognise you, I'll give you my first aka supa.

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>>16932167
The requirement isn't that you did that in the past, it's telling you the expectations of you if you get in.

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>>16933671
>For example Pomu was a uitate cover singer and idol irl before going indie and then finally applying to Nijisanji.
Not true, there's nothing else known about her besides Mint.

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>>16936687
I think they meant Elira.

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Just started streaming this year and I'm making my own (simple) 3D vtuber model. I'm halfway to affiliate (got the hours/days, half the followers, and half the average viewers); i.e. I'm a total noob when it comes to streaming. I've got overlays, follow alerts, and I stream a variety of games each week. Given I'll probably finish my vtuber setup mid-February, how big do y'all think I could get by summer? Should I put streaming on the very backburner and focus on school and getting a job?

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>>16935933
I'm really glad it looks like its paying off for them at least, means good things in the future for everyone
>>16936268
The best way to say your /here/ is to make it so sublte that no one really knows for sure. Or just be a natural aspie, that works too. Either way I think we're all gonna make it
>>16936520
gotcha, thanks for clarifying anon

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how do I avoid being as menhara as mori

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>>16938431
Don't end up /here/ for starters

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>>16938431
Ignore the 3 retard fans out of your millions.

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>>16934597
>the recent surge of indie graduations
Mind telling us who graduated? I don’t watch indies normally so I wouldn’t know.

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>>16938894
https://twitter.com/akatorachimon
https://twitter.com/imRitaka
https://twitter.com/_pearlish

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>>16937233
>Given I'll probably finish my vtuber setup mid-February, how big do y'all think I could get by summer?
Kek.

Seriously though…you would never know but realistically speaking, you’re more likely than not to be stuck with being a 2view for months if not years. The most successful online content creators have been at it for years before they became a name everyone knows. Corpo chuubas are different because you’ll always have an audience right at the beginning thanks to the brand. But the ones who get these opportunities spend years in their PLs just to get the branding.

Doesn’t help that the market is extremely saturated. Everyone and their mom is being a Vtuber. Not saying it’s too late and you’ll never make it, but first mover advantage is real.

>Should I put streaming on the very backburner and focus on school and getting a job?
You can make this your primary hobby. Look at the ones who eventually transitioned to full-time online content creation after they found stable success. Focus on your school and/or day job but essentially dedicate whatever free time you have to this if you really want to make it. Again, there’s no guarantee you will though, so think if that’s alright for you. You’re potentially spending years of time/hundreds of dollars/losing sleep over something that might not work out. For every 1 streamer you know, there’s thousands out there who you don’t.

Before anyone blows up at me like they did the other guy in the past thread about PNGtubers, this isn’t discouragement. This is just reality. I’m also set for a “debut” in March and would love to get famous and successful enough to quit my day job and do this shit full-time. But we all gotta look at the situation objectively.

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>>16939294
>1k followers on Twitch
>3k followers on Twitch
>okay streams, nothing really special (my personal opinion)
I’d love to see their audition videos, as well as the audition videos of other smaller streamers. There are times the bar seems super high and times they aren’t. This is one of the latter.

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>>16937233
>Should I put streaming on the very backburner and focus on school and getting a job?
Yes, and that's the same for any part of entertainment industry, be it singing, acting, voice acting, making YouTube videos, streaming.

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>see tons of people selling their Vtuber identities and assets after shit doesn't work out
Imagine doing this and seeing whoever you sold it to thrive and be 100x more successful than you were. I haven't seen such a thing happen yet but if I were in this situation, I don't think I'd be able to take it. What do you guys think?

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>>16942240
Vtweeters buying used models have ngmi mentality so it's not a concern.

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>watch two advice videos telling me to ask my family and friends to come watch when i first start streaming
>i really, really, really don't want to risk anyone figuring out who i am irl through them
Well?

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>>16942725
Then don't? Number padding like that is pointless and stops being an issue after a single month of streams.

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>>16942725
Not the same situation but I'm thinking about trying Vtubing out (will have everything ready by end of Q1 at the latest), then once I establish a foothold and know I'll be doing this long term, I plan on inviting my friends (who know of Vtubers and are considering trying it out) to join me. It's easy collabs and everyone can help each other out.

As for my family, I'm shy about it now because I'm investing all this time, money, and effort for what might be a pipe dream. I've hinted towards me starting some online content creation, but I only plan on telling them up front once I become good enough. To them, anything more than a hundred subscribers/followers is doing pretty good in their eyes. It would be nice to get the support, whether it's moral support or being able to shush them during streaming hours without question.

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>>16940512
>OK streams
I mean you can talk about the "bar" but one of Luxiem's most popular member was the smallest one, and similarly sized to these people. Twitch followers are a fairly meaningless statistic though. I've seen people with 20k and only 30 viewers. Look at Vox as well. He's got tons of experience in content creation, but (not to insult him) still doesn't do anything different than the average 20view on Twitch, he's just got a really nice voice. Not to say his content is bad at all because it's not.

There's realistically no difference between Vox and Msya despite them being completely opposite ends of the spectrums as content creators. They just want people who can entertain and who have a record of content creation, which they do. Think of it as all those jobs that require you to have a college degree. You can have better skills all around vs someone who does have it, but they're still more likely to pick the person with the degree. In this case, that piece of paper is proof you've got a history of content creation, not necessarily just your numbers.

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>>16943698
Of course. I acknowledge Vox and Mysta's ability as an entertainer despite not being a viewer of theirs. What I meant was that depending on the chuuba, the "bar" ends up looking very different, so I'd love to see their audition videos, interviews, and all that and see how they went through it.

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>>16943698
Honestly Niji's the way to go about recruiting people. They look for people who do their minimum reps in content creation and use their audition process to filter out the best candidates irrespective of their numbers. So far all the NijiENs were not very popular or famous people in their past lives but they're absolutely thriving right now as Nijis. Whereas you look at Hololive's audition process where they only look for the biggest numbers which resulted in a lot of duds like the council.

The key thing to takeaway from this is to keep making content and gathering a fanbase, eventually if you're good enough you can enter a good corpo like Niji. Just dont expect to get in HoloEN without massive numbers though.

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>>16922669
Pretty good. Had to get my car battery replaced but other than that it was a pretty lazy Saturday. I’m finally figuring out what’s wrong with my Vroid too.

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>>16947285
Hey lets not oversell them, it's not like Niji doesn't have their own share of duds *cough ethyria cough*

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>>16938431
You see this bit in the OP
>>16920332
>"avoid doing this shit": https://pastebin.com/vbp6qEd
just follow it, it's not freaking hard, especially since 90% of it is just "sit on your ass and do nothing."

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>>16938431
1) Don't insult you fans
2) Don't insult your goddamn fans
3) Don't insult your antis either
4) Drugs are bad

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Does anyone have some ideas for good 2nd, 3rd, and 4th outfit concepts? Theme of my chuuba is comedian/entertainer.

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>>16949485
>This page is no longer available. It has either expired, been removed by its creator, or removed by one of the Pastebin staff.

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>>16951176
I dropped the t at the end, the link in the op still works
https://pastebin.com/vbp6qEdt

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>>16951118
>2nd
birthday suit
>3rd
swim trunks only (gender doesnt matter)
>4th
same as your main costume but with a hand holding a gun coming from off screen pointed at your head

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>>16950202
If you’ve got some aspects of your stream that your viewers connect to but isn’t reflected in your design, that’s what you look to for a second outfit. If you don’t have that, you’re jumping the gun.

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>>16942725
There's two ways that having your IRL friends in your stream would dox you
1 - your friends are retarded, or not your friends, and say "Hey Jason Momoa, I was wondering if you wanted to go to Big Island Mall tomorrow, after you finish your desk job in Warner Brothers"
2 - your friends don't have the basic opsec that everyone on the internet *should* have, and facepost linked to a single handle they use everywhere.

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>>16952418
I haven’t started streaming, sorry. It’s very cheap to have the artist I got make 2nd, 3rd, 4th outfits when you initially commission them vs. if you come back to them later. I’m talking less than 100 vs. 200+.

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>>16942725
That advice is probably for regular streamers with facecam who make RL stuff a part of their channel (i.e. the majority of streamers). It does not take into account peculiarities of being a chuuba.

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bump

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What would you guys do if you got doxxed?

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>>16958361
I’m no Gawr Gura that it would actually make waves in the community if that happened, kek. Maybe if I had a shitty past, I’d be somewhat alarmed. The worst that could happen is my family and friends finding out about this stuff and even then I don’t do or say anything that they’ll be raising eyebrows about. I’ll just let it die on its own.

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>>16958361
I'd just ignore it I guess. Might be a concern if it's a dox of my old alias's, but it would be hard to make the connection at this point unless someone was so spiteful that they recognized how my voice would change in 8 years. Most of my old shit is merely embarrassing rather than incriminating though, and would also embarrass any accusers unless they anonymize, which would remove any credibility to accusations.

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Does somebody have a guide on the process for covers?
Can you monetize those?

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>>16958361
It's not likely to be a problem for me? I vtube because I'm ugly, not because of anything else.
Worse would be if someone linked my old commissioned MLP porn stories to my current account name, but that's hellishly unlikely for multiple reasons.

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>>16938431
What did she do now?

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>>16960790
you can ask in any of the dozen mori threads that are up

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>>16960790
Liked and positively replied to an art of her being fucked by Connor right in front of a crying deadbeat. Then accidentally outed herself as a drug addict.

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>>16960924
>>16960957
I've never heard of Trash Taste as a collective before now yet my initial reaction was a complete lack of surprise seeing who this group is comprised of. Holy shit. Imagine ruining your career for these guys.

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>>16951118
Joker outfit

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>>16958361
Depends on the severity, i'd try to let it die off at first and if it doesn't, come forward (My PL is mostly cringe anyway)

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>>16939824
Thanks man, I get it's not realistic to assume I'll be big in a single year, but at least I now have a proper frame of reference. I appreciate it!

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what chance do i have as a vtuber to get a real girlfriend who shares all my horrible takes

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>>16965608
Who knows, maybe you'll be the 0.01% who'll immediately blow up because you go viral, or simply just because you're actually extremely talented. It's not bad to be a little unrealistic (idealistic, in this case) and imagine hitting big in a year. We all wouldn't be here trying otherwise. But we need to stay grounded. Best of luck.

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>>16920332
How do you even go about making friends to stream with? There’s no way I could invite my real friends and it’s so difficult to talk about whatever by yourself. I don’t even mind not having many viewers. What’s worse is having viewers and trying to start up conversation!

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Random scenario i just thought of, let's say you have a unique object, for the purposes of the scenario a laptop with some dents in specific places, be it forgetfulness or some other reason you show it, and someone from your PL questions you about it, what do you do? Lie and say you bought it used from someone? Ignore them?

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>>16968497
Depends. A random fan who followed you from your PL to now? Pretend you didn't see the question. A fellow chuuba you were close to in your PL? Why not? They'd most likely know anyway given PLs aren't exactly complete secrets. Your voice and personality wouldn't change, and apart from that, there's usually something that'll tip everyone off your PL and your current persona are related (exactly the same likes and dislikes, etc.).If someone's asking you, they're likely just doing it for confirmation on your side, not because they didn't know.

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>>16951415
>>16964601
What if i'm a girl?
I was thinking of following the kind of outfits corpo chuubas get when they reach milestones so I have it already, given >>16955057 and I'm not exactly rolling in dough. What do you think?

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>>16968497
What's a PL?

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>>16969403
past life
>>16947828
even the anyas are becoming chuuba... the pipeline is vicious

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bump

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>>16969369
>spoiler
Jokerette would make for a nice outfit
memes aside, if you're not rolling in dough i'd advise to save the $100 and get outfits only once you are, specially if you aren't sure what to make them

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>>16969246
Makes sense when you put it like that, the people who could recognize my item are from a small forum and i'm not even in bad terms with them so i shouldn't be this autistic about it, thanks

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>>16920332
I don't have vast experience streaming, and currently lost the little equipment necessary to do that (PC died and I sold it), also don't have extensive records of streaming and pulling numbers, and lack any talent in music and art.
Still sent the application form to hololive...

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>>16973341
Ganbare anon!

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>>16958361
Basically this, unless someone can conclusively tie me to the stuff I post on 4chan, but if that's a reallistic concern we all have bigger stuff to worry about

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>>16969369
Harkey Quinn vtuber would be insane if you're female. Something that combines the appeal of her design with something sexy and keeping in theme with clowns.

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>>16973341
>Here it says you have no experience, no numbers to show, and lack any entertaining skills.
>Yes.

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How much time of preparation should I invest in before debut?

I plan to start as JPGtuber (still working on design), and focus on drawing because time constraints, and I'd feel it'd be better for working out how not to freeze up and shit, then get add Steam games and emulators (most likely Pokemon since it's the one I'm most comfortable talking about) since I don't think I need a Capture Card for those?

The only streaming experience I have is drawing in discord VCs with friends a couple of times, making remarks, and explaining some stuff I do (To a low degree, since I don't know too much technical stuff in art)

I do have a rough schedule, streaming 1-2 hours every Mon/Wed/Fri at night (22:00 EST) and Saturdays or Sundays 2 hours (13:00 EST?)

And that's what I have mapped out so far.

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>streaming for a month
>less than 50 followers
>average 3-5 viewers, peak at 10 without raids
>2ish regulars (not counting friends/mods)

Any advice for growing followers? It seems like the followers that I have stick around but I lack follower growth in the first place

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So before debuting I did a quick check for names and stuff to see if the one I was planning to use was taken by someone else and it indeed is by a Japanese 2view. Should I change it or just push forward? I wouldn't lose much by changing it, just re-editing a bunch of assets.

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>>16976259
Cool, good luck.
>>16976694
How are people finding you and your streams right now?
>>16978303
Really doesn't matter.

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>>16976259
All sounds good, but a debut only works as a first stream if you're a corpo, or have built hype like the sexy snake. I would consider saving a 'debut' for a month or two after starting, maybe when you hit affiliate?

>>16976694
I found a got initial views from joining a streamer/vtuber 'community'. I know the reVtweeter bot has a discord group, or the r/twitch subreddit, so that sort of thing can be good to get initial eyes on you. Once you have some regulars, I've found success in taking them to niche games. If you can pick something you enjoy, that doesn't have many people live, like Civ 5, you can get quite a few people hop in and follow if you're at all charismatic.

>>16978303
Do it anyway. Do you really think an EOP and JOP are likely to overlap?

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>>16978303
There's a least three Lunas I'm aware of. Noone gives a single fuck. Keep the name and do something more useful than asset changing.

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>>16978642
I see, just mention I'll start streaming, stream for a month then make a debut stream?

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Please come over to >>16710105 and share any lore related to your general and help worldbuild

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>>16979663
>linking lore thread on the anti-lore thread

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Serious question, if your application got accepted from both companies, would you pick Hololive or Nijisanji?

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>>16979408
So this is all the opinions of one anon. I've definitely not made it. So maybe you should do the exact opposite of my advice.
Unless you can gain a following before ever hitting go live for the first time, it's VERY likely that you'll have nobody show up to your first stream.
Maybe you link it here, and some people turn up. Maybe you post it on twitter, get picked by the algo, and get two or three people show up... But you're unlikely to get more than five. Even then, that'd be weird on your first ever stream.
A debut is a GREAT chance to celebrate... But if you don't have any fans, or even just viewers, nobody is going to know. You can hype yourself on twitter all you want, but that isn't going to help your numbers.
Take AniYuki. 2.5k on twitter, 330 on twitch. 90 day CCV of 4. 7/14 day of 3.
https://twitter.com/AniYuki_Vtuber
https://sullygnome.com/channel/aniyuki_vt/90
Currently on 17 viewers, but this is the peak, according to sully.

Also, it gives you a bonus chance to celebrate. You can throw a party for 1 year of streaming, 1 year since debut, 1 year since affiliate, birthday... Aiming for semi-freuqent events can definitely help with growth

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>>16980148
Thanks for the info

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>>16979991
Nijisanji
Hololive produces great content but they still hold onto the "idol" company mindset, and I think a lot of creativity gets axed because of it(haachamas schizo arc). And for being one of the first successful companies they sure are slow on the draw for most things and embracing change.

Niji has felt more soulfull, probably because the people in it are friends from before, and collabs don't really feel forced. People hopping into streams can be comfy. As a downside though, it's very possible they'll have 30+ en members within a years time which is offputting as a viewer and a prospect.
In the end, money doesn't really matter to me, so I'd go Niji.

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>>16979991
Hololive. Grind it out for 2 years then coast off the popularity.

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>>16979991
Hololive, I wanna be an idol.

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>>16979991
Nijisanji, more creative freedom

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>>16979991
Nijisanji because they're inclining, they have creative freedom, everyone seems like real friends, their earnings are equal to Holos despite the lower numbers due to a higher number of working adults and the management wouldnt make you want to kill yourself.

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>>16979991
Nijisanji because who the fuck would want to work under the omega nigger lmao. Makes me fucking puke.

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everyone saying Nijisanji hasn't even done their research. if you weren't already friends with Elria you're not getting in. even the next wave of males are all friends of Elira. how do you think you're going to apply to a company when you haven't even done research on their culture.

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>>16983242
yeah but the question says if you got accepted into both.

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>>16983242
do you have the link to the Elira Friend Application

>>16982449
who's omega and what do they do?

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>>16983508
Omega is the EN branch's version of A-chan but vchanners and viewerfags get their panties in a twist because they all think Omega is a male who sleeps with the girls.

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>>16983508
>who's omega
The guy, though allegedly a tranny, that kneecapped Council with lore that barely fits any of the girls.

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>>16978334
>>How are people finding you and your streams right now?

I thik I'm entertaining enough when i have chat to bounce off of or friends in the voice call, slightly less funny when it's just me on my own. I usually don't have much dead air but sometimes there's just really nothing to talk about if I'm streaming art and I'll play a soft lofi bgm and commentate every so often

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>>16985020
I mean that as in "how are people discovering you" right now?

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Is it fine for me to play otome games if I'm not a fag or a woman? I just find them interesting and like a lot of the designs.
I guess I can always train my voice to act the characters since people have told me I have a talent for it.

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>>16985867
This is autism, no one cares that much. Stream what you want as long as you can make it entertaining for the viewers.
>if I'm not a fag or a woman?
You'll probably drop a spicy gamer word like this on stream one day and kill your viewership.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16985063
Oops, totally misunderstood that! Right now a lot of my viewers are friends/fellow chuubas, and randos that apparently find me through Twitter and Twitch

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>>16987044
>Right now a lot of my viewers are friends/fellow chuubas
Whatever you're doing to make this happen you need to stop.
> randos that apparently find me through Twitter and Twitch
What are your marketing reps like right now?

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>>16987098
>Whatever you're doing to make this happen you need to stop.
I just announce I'm streaming and they'll pop in to watch/lurk. I'm not obsessed with Opsec and I had a PL with 1k+ followers, it's very difficult to stay hidden when half your social circle frequents the vtuber scene. Most of them started before me and have hundreds or housands of followers already so it doesn't hurt to network/collab with them

>What are your marketing reps like right now?
For now, tweeting with relevant hashtags, making art/graphics and sharing them. Will be making a tiktok and youtube to share clips (don't have much "clippable moment"s rn but I do have some I'm planning on editing next weekend.

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>>16987044
You will never grow this way. Clip your content and post clips, highlights, and shorts on Youtube, Tiktok, and Twitter (for shorts and clips)

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>>16987488
>don't have much "clippable moment"s rn
Tiktok and Youtube shorts don't have to be "clippable moments" from your stream. They can just be short content bits that you put together. Hot takes, rants, really dumb puns, maybe you just want to say something to viewers and things like that.

[Anonymous No.]

Hate my voice and wanted to here thoughts on it. Scale of (holomem)10-1(tranny) how does my voice sound.
GAKN
https://vocaroo.com/1gNVU6FIjS3U

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>>16987497
>>16987532
Thanks, I'm currently restricted by tech limitations but I'll focus on editing clips and prioritize that

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>>16987893
it sounds fine.

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>>16987532
You said they don't have to be clippable moments, offered an alternative, and described multiple forms of clippable moments.

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>>16988117
You don't need to be streaming to have a hot take, rant, say a dumb pun or just tell your viewers that you love them.

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>>16988117
NTA but you're misunderstanding. Hot takes, rants, dumb puns, and things you just want to say -not from your stream-, but specifically made in your vtuber avatar straight for TikTok, YouTube, or Twitter. I know a lot of vtubers who make TikTok content that's indistuingishable from normal TikTok content (e.g., variants on a popular sound, skits, etc.).

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>>16987893
I like it, the volume just seems a tad too low, hope you're using some filters on OBS.
If it helps, I can tell from experience that nobody thinks as poorly of your voice as yourself, I've just tarted streaming and dislike my own voice, but it's what I've been using to speak to people my whole life and nobody bats an eye

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>>16988264
Started*
And since you asked, your voice sounds like a solid 7/10

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>>16987893
7-8, you won't be filtered out of auditions because of your voice
>>16988264
agree with this anon, a lot of people don't like the sound of their own voice but it's better than they think

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>>16987893
>https://vocaroo.com/1gNVU6FIjS3U

Sorry to say but it's an obvious tranny voice but not as unpleasant as some I've heard so maybe a 4?

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>>16967454
This is a good question. I've asked people on this board and none of them play the same games as me or want to talk in general

[Anonymous No.]

>>16991562
what game do you play? i play games that no one else plays but i've had no problem talking to others regardless of that

[Anonymous No.]

Where the hell am I supposed to gain followers from on Twitch? Nowhere allows advertising of my streams and the few places that are allowed no one actually uses.
I use the tag systems on twitch itself but rarely get any new viewers and even fewer stick around and follow.

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>>16994635
do you marketing reps on tiktok, youtube, twitter and other social media sites. if all you're doing is posting your twitch link you're doing it wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

What did you guys use to monitor your twitch chat again?

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>>16997833
OBS? there should be an option to have your chat, stream details, redeems/follows, and live viewer count as separate windows in OBS
unless you're playing on a single monitor with something fullscreen then you could just pop the window out from obs i guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>16998465
>OBS
No, it was something else but I forgot the name.

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>>16920332
How important is it to have fixed predetermined schedules as a chuuba? I can see how having easy to remember streaming times can be of advantage, but can't quite get on board with the idea of deciding a week in advance what I want to play on stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17000708
Very.
>can't quite get on board with the idea of deciding a week in advance what I want to play on stream.
You don't need to know what you're going to play on stream. Your viewers need to know when you'll be live.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it worth investing on Live2D early on? I'm currently a PNGtuber but I can draw and I have confidence that I'll be able to nail rigging too as well and reach an adequate level given enough time and investment to further learn about it (have attended a single workshop and have gotten most of the simple basics down). Should I just continue streaming and making content with a PNG and delay a Live2D when I already have an audience, or should I switch to a Live2D as soon as even if it's a relatively simple one?

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>>17000708
It helps having a schedule, even if only something like "will stream" because it not just notifies your viewers you will stream, but it also serves as self-discipline. It's a bit NAGL to not push through with your set schedule as a small chuuba. Eventually, you'll find making a more substantial schedule easier, whether it's games you know you need to finish because you already started them or collabs you set up with others.

>>17001935
Have you tried streaming already? If you have and think that you'll be pursuing this long-term, yes if you have either the money or the ability to draw and/or rig one yourself. You can just have a 2.0/better Live2D model after you've already gotten an audience.

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>>17001935
It’s your choice since you’ll be able to draw and rig everything yourself, the only issue is if you want to spend the time on that. I’m an artist and created a VTuber child ready for rigging, it was rough with my art style (I normally draw on 1-2 layers) and took 2-3 months of on and off work. Some artists can churn out 1-2 ready to rig VTubers a month though.

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>>17001935
Start with the PNG and just slowly build up an audience so they can see your development arc.

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>>17001935
Do you want to be a chuuba or do you want to be an artist/rigger?

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>>17004019
You can be both. I know this thread prides themselves in the "Just stream, run out naked into the wild and stream." mantra, but it's OK to wait until you're set up.

>>17001935
The only difference between doing your reps now and doing your reps in a month when you've got a rigged model is that you waited a month. That's it. You still need to do your reps, you still need to get better, and you see have a lot of time before you can improve. The problems only come in when it's been months on end and you're still stalling. There's a chance you won't like it at all but realistically that isn't /asp/'s problem it's your own. No one here is affected in any way whatsoever if you spend a month working on a Live2D model and suddenly realize you hate streaming a month in.

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>>17002692
Yes I've already tried streaming since the start of January and am quite fond of the creation process of it all despite having no followers so far. While I do wish to make it a long term hobby, I am not currently in a position for me to be able to spend money on it sadly enough. Hence, why I am considering the route of making and rigging one myself.

>>17002999
That's exactly what I am currently considering as of the moment. I am wondering if investing time on an L2D model would be a good trade-off in order to be able to better catch or attract audiences. I do not have the voice nor the level of energy to be able to easily hook people into staying and thus why I'm considering a L2D in order to be able to express myself better in a visual manner instead in an attempt to tip the scales a little bit towards my favor.

>>17003449
That's also another route that I can take yes. However, there is also the fear that having a PNG can actually hinder me big time in the long run.

>>17004019
I want to be a chuuba who can also be recognized as an artist or rigger in the community.

>>17004842
Makes sense. Hence, why I attempted to stream first even for just less than a month to see if it is an activity that I would be able to enjoy.

Thank you for the feedback everyone. It has been very insightful so far.

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>>17005401
>I am wondering if investing time on an L2D model would be a good trade-off in order to be able to better catch or attract audiences. I do not have the voice nor the level of energy to be able to easily hook people into staying and thus why I'm considering a L2D in order to be able to express myself better in a visual manner instead in an attempt to tip the scales a little bit towards my favor.

No one will stay for more than a day or two (I'm being generous here) even if you have the most beautiful and well rigged avatar in the world if you aren't good at entertainment (you don't have to be loud or high energy to be entertaining). I've seen many amazing models with little to no viewers on both Twitch and YT because they're boring as shit. People will click yes, but no one will stay if you're a terrible streamer.

I don't recommend you put all your cards on the model, you need to practice streaming as well. If you're uncomfortable with streaming, hit record in OBS and just act like you're live. Once you're done, pretend you're watching a random VTuber while reviewing the recording.

Now is the random VTuber (you) funny? Do they do interesting things in the videogame? Is there a lot of dead air? Are there any annoying background sounds? Would you stay to watch them for more than 1-2 minutes? If you wouldn't watch this, then practice more. Think about what you could've said at X point in the recording, what you could've done to be funnier, how you should've expanded a topic, etc. Do this over and over, even if you're actually streaming (but with VODs).

I were to watch my past self from 1-2 years ago stream now, I would've clicked off the stream instantly. I barely talked and couldn't even be considered a comfy streamer. Even now, there are still many things I could improve on, but with practice I'm able to hold my ground.

This advice may not necessarily apply to you, but I hope it's somewhat useful for other anons here. I feel like /asp/ talks a lot about starting to stream or just going live, but not much about what to do to get better as a streamer. Even the streamers at the top review their VODs often and think about what they could've done better. It isn't revolutionary advice, but it helps a lot to improve.

[Anonymous No.]

/meat/ is ahead, heh, of us in the catalog...........................

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>>17010184
>I feel like /asp/ talks a lot about starting to stream or just going live, but not much about what to do to get better as a streamer.
That's because it's the more relevant piece of advice. Most of the anons coming here have never streamed in their lives and do not know the first thing about streaming. Starting out and getting experience gives them the best hands on experience about what works and what doesn't.

One thing that used to be talked a bunch were things like transitions, overlays, where to put the chat box and shit like that. None of it actually matters but it's easy to waste time thinking about getting the perfect alerts and perfect overlay just like the Holos. When they get started and find out that their problem isn't overlays but the fact that they can't fill dead air for 4 hours.

I don't think /asp/ is the place for more experienced streamers. If you've got a schedule going for 3 months and stuck to it then you are well beyond what /asp/ can do to help. At that point it becomes really specific do your brand of content and what you can do for your audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16992124
sorry for late response, I used to be a big time Warzone player even made some money playing comp. I followed the over populated Battle Royal trend but now its mostly a new game every other few weeks. Mostly shooters or party games with randos. Or whatevers popular.

Most of the time its a relaxing semi competitive game while sitting in JC

[Anonymous No.]

>>16994635
Bots. Only like 10. These twitch followers mean so much less when you get high numbers in YT or TikTok

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>>17011510
>not much about what to do to get better as a streamer
Even as someone with viewers, I really can't explain how I got them nor can most people who are big and have made it. I think that's partially why you've got people like Jusagi who have all this technical information and data, but can't apply it. I'm beating a dead horse here, but I've always thought "You either have it or you don't." and rarely see exceptions to this. I don't say this in an attempt to shut anyone down to discourage them, it's just what I've seen and experienced watching streams and content creators for so long

Aside from technical knowledge, (still very important stuff, don't get me wrong) that can only really help the quality of your stream there's not much anyone here or anywhere can teach you. no one can teach you to be funny or witty, no one can teach you to entertain an audience or shift out of awkward situations or jokes that are falling flat, not without dozens or hundreds of hours of your time and constant coaching, none of which you'll get here.

Most of the biggest and best streamers are the class clowns from highschool, the funny guy in the friend group, cute uwu wanna be voice actresses, not-quite-pro but still really good E-Sports guys, etc. They were doing this for years or maybe their whole lives with just close friends and family, then realized they could stream it and maybe someone would look. I can tell you to "stop having dead air" but I can't tell you how exactly to fill it, and even if I say "Talk about your day", you can tell the exact same story as a more entertaining person and it'll hit entirely different because you're two different people. In the end, it comes down to your personality, or your abilities to fake one which is a lot harder than just "naturally" being entertaining.
tl;dr no one can do that

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>>17011510
>One thing that used to be talked a bunch were things like transitions, overlays, where to put the chat box and shit like that. None of it actually matters but it's easy to waste time thinking about getting the perfect alerts and perfect overlay just like the Holos. When they get started and find out that their problem isn't overlays but the fact that they can't fill dead air for 4 hours.

this. this. im not even much a vtuber I just come here because its really the only place on 4chan where streaming is talked about.

And look at super popular streamers like Moist guy has been using the same webcam border for years

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>>17010184
Thank you for the helpful advice. I've been doing quick retrospectives after every streams and have been practicing in trying to fix my flaws and improve further. What I'm concerned about however is the idea that a big reason why people would hastily click out or not even dare to click in is because of I am using a PNG to begin with; The idea that my model can be the sole reason as to why I can't even get my foot in the door. Can a PNG vs L2D model really affect that much for people to tune or click in or do I simply suck in advertising and getting myself out there?

[Anonymous No.]

Trying out some manual data gathering for training purposes
https://pastebin.com/uTceKspU

Notes:
>These aren't indicative of anything serious besides the popularity of certain categories, it should be fairly accurate when you cross-reference with the number of people in the whole category in general
>The best thing you could do with this data is search a game + vtuber as tags to gather more insight on a specific game's performance
>This list will include people who only just started their stream, and may have risen to a larger viewcount while the data was being sifted through
>I'm not going to get more significant data than this without a program that can sift through everything better
>All Pokemon games were consolidated into two categories because otherwise they would take up about 7 lines
>Certain other franchises were also consolidated based on certain criteria like release timing and number of certain entries being played, while others weren't consolidated due to irregular variety
>Despite being one of the hot new things, God of War doesn't appear at all
>Someone that used to be in the thread is present in one of the Other games, and you'll never guess what he's playing

[Anonymous No.]

>Someone that used to be in the thread is present in one of the Other games, and you'll never guess what he's playing
who?

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>>17015244
https://www.twitch.tv/piri_piri
coincidentally, he's changed games since.

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>>17014806
>or do I simply suck in advertising and getting myself out there?
It's this. Can a high quality Live2D model help? Yes. But that really only matters for the first 10 seconds. Your content will be the most important thing that brings viewers back. I know aspies love to timeloop about "but what about that first click?" and it really does not matter in the long run.

Your best bet is to start posting short form content that represents your brand out on social media. Learning to market yourself well is a skill that every chuuba must learn if they want to keep growing. Off the top of my head, an indie chuuba who does this the best would probably be Oni Giri.

Her gimmick is a cooking vtuber and she posts clips on Twitter and Youtube that represents her brand very well. https://twitter.com/OnigiriEn_/status/1484680548538855427 This lets people know what to expect from her streams. The novelty factor is also a buff because people talk about this vtuber who uses a greensuit to do live cooking with her avatar.

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>>17015368
And to show the flipside, here's someone who spend a ton of cash on a pricey Live2D model. This is actually his second model. The first one was rigged by the folks at Iron Vertex.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP4qdXBC2Rc4C8X2wq_GXOA
https://twitter.com/acefortunech
The numbers speak for themselves.

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>>17015302
>jagged teeth
>streams dota 2 and pokemon
Back to the drawing board, I guess.

captcha: 42PMA

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>>16939294
>https://twitter.com/akatorachimon
>https://twitter.com/imRitaka
>https://twitter.com/_pearlish
Adding another one to the list who just announced his graduation.
https://twitter.com/kou_DP/status/1485501180260536321

>Maybe you will find me again, and if you do, don't say anything. Act like you've never seen me before. Say hi, nice to meet you.

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>>17016257
Has nothing to do with any of that, he just isn't entertaining yet, nor has he done any form of adverting or networking outside of posting there. That's all there is to it.

[Anonymous No.]

Hermit here.
I'm thinking of giving my chubba a birthday different to my irl birthday; not even due to muh lore or opsec, but because I always feel like shit when my real birthday comes along.
Hopefully, it changes soon but it's been over a decade of this on my end.
People don't care about this kind of thing, right?

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>>17016645
its fair to do that if you want to do other things for your real birthday methinks

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>>17016596
I don't know what you're trying to tell me, anon.
I meant that the games I'm planning to stream at the beginning are most likely going to be dota 2 and some pokemon game, and that the design I've been working on also has jagged teeth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17016687
Yeah, I just hope my family and friends let me crash into slumber next time.

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>>17016757
Oh i thought you were attributing his viewership to that. Doesn't really matter if your design or games are similar, do what you want. You're both nobodies in the end.

[Anonymous No.]

W-will people really donate to you if you're entertaining enough?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17017234
yes, and donators will usually return to your stream as well since they'll want to check up on how you're doing afterwards

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>>17017369
Wow, I guess I'm just really out of touch with that sort of thing then. I'm used to severely undercharging for my digital artwork in the commission scene so this is a big revelation.

Gonna test some things out now to see how I can make longer streams more engaging, this is motivating. Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.]

We're almost at the one month mark for Holo auditions. It seems a lot of people got views but has anyone been contacted? I just want to know when to stop hoping

[Anonymous No.]

>>17019277
Aren’t successful auditions contacted two weeks later?

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>>17019576
They're not doing open/close auditions any more.

>>17019277
It's honestly just best to pretend you didn't get in and move on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17019782
Alternatively you do the nene method and send your application in every two months until you get in

[Anonymous No.]

I'm not letting /asp/ die under the current holobrony and tourism cancer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17024727
Thank you aspie brother...

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>>17024727
Even though /asp/ should have died ages ago, I’ll support your cause

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>>17024727
I'm glad that after keeping the threads alive for months that there are other people who will assist in the cause... Thank you

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>>17019277
I'm in the same boat. Multiple views, no contact.

[Anonymous No.]

I've been making a list of what games I want to stream, and unsurprisingly includes LoL/Wild Rift.

Should I make a new account? I don't have much friends added and mostly randos. Some nice skins are also in my main account and I don't want to buy it on a new one.

Is it good to go on rants/tangents relating to the streamed game to fill the dead air? Or helpful tips for those who wanna give it shot? I do want to make some game review if I'm not streaming.

t. Sseth fag

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>>17028729
well honestly nobody's gonna care who your account is unless it's tied up to racist/sexist shit and doxxes you. Try googling the username and see what pops up and if nothing egregious shows, you should be okay in using that old account. As for rants and tangents, just go for it everyone loves it when that happens.

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>>17012469
>tfw used to be class clown
>tfw i ended up doing a complete 180 after HS and can't harken the power of my autistic energy anymore
why even bother?

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone here watch art streams? I was wondering what makes you guys stay most of or the whole art stream? What usually turns you away from an art stream?

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>>17030338
I stay if their mic and personality isn't obnoxious. I don't like it when the artist hardly speaks though, some talking is good as long as it doesn't sound like they hate being here. You can get away with not talking much for art, but only if your skills are good enough to carry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17030338
it's common for artist vtubers to pop into other art streams to learn or work along

[Anonymous No.]

Do people even make videos anymore or is it really all just streaming...?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17031253
The most popular form of videos are all clips or shorts so... not really?

[Anonymous No.]

bump i guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>17034392
AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>17012469
Not sure how but I was somehow both class clown and teacher's pet and now I'm the funny friend who looks like a normal on first impression

[Anonymous No.]

What program do you guys use for your models? I use vroid studio to make my model but I'm not sure what program to use for motion capturing for the stream. I tried vmagicmirror but I don't think captures movement well, although that could be a webcam issue from my end

[Anonymous No.]

>>17036080
vseeface.

I tried vmagicmirror, as it's got the inbuilt wave emote, but it kept causing my PC to crash when I was doing HoI4, or MHRise at the same time for some reason.
Literally any other game I tried works, but VMM and HoI/MHR don't play nice.
Thankfully, it's an apparently clean shutdown, because I can reboot no problem, but it causes a disco in the stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>17036277
Thanks, I'll try vseeface
I was using VMM before I got my webcam and it was ok, never crashed or anything but now that I have a webcam, it's not really doing enough

[Anonymous No.]

Will pretending to be a homosexual boost your female viewership

[Anonymous No.]

Does putting reminders for people to subscribe on your stuff actually get you people to do it or is it white noise at this point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17038698
The reason everyone does it is because it actually works. Analytics show that it works. You might think it's fucking stupid and it never worked on you but for every one of you there are plenty that the reminder actually influences.

[Anonymous No.]

not sure if this is the right thread, but is it viable if i'd like to be a vsinger instead of a streamer? i enjoy singing and not streaming (even though i like gaming), so i can't imagine myself having the motivation to grind streams.

also, has anyone tried paid advertisements (e.g. twitter, instagram, youtube) and how effective was it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17040271
Don't buy ads they don't work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17040271
There are plenty of pure musicians on YouTube. Ike from Nijisanji used to be one, and he was in the six-figure subs.

[Anonymous No.]

To make an overlay set, I just have to make some transparent frames and icons, right?

Maybe I don't know how to navigate own3d but I couldn't find a junkyard/abandoned building themed set so I'll try making one.

[Anonymous No.]

>watch 13view twitch recommended to me
>top 3 gifted subs add up to ~500

[Anonymous No.]

>>17045042
It's fucking weird how a lot of smaller channels have extremely dedicated whales. I saw one with like 20 views and 360k top cheerer of all time.
Are these groomers trying to get in their pants or just plain rich oil barons throwing stacks away?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16920332
I'm an artist and unfortunately some drawing days are better than others for drawing... Does anyone have any tips or examples of schedules for art vtubers/streamers? I draw pretty fast so I have some good ideas, but I just don't understand how people can have weekly stream schedules... I'm kind of inconsistent when it comes to my energy.

Is it just something you pick up after doing it often enough?

[Anonymous No.]

>Question for existing vtubers:
Do you play more of a character or are you just being yourself? Is it a mixture of the two?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17045391
I do art streams once a week or once every other week, and regular gaming streams in the other slots. It might help to spread things out a bit so you don't get burn out

[Anonymous No.]

>>17045552
Mix of the two.
My chuubasona is similar to my own personality but with some designated quirks. However, half my viewers know my real face so it's weird if I tried to roleplay 100% the time as a completely different character when I'm just playing an fps

[Anonymous No.]

>>17031253
Short format videos are great for promoting yourself, especially if they're produced with the intent of being videos, rather than just highlights from a stream

[Anonymous No.]

What are some games with stubborn followings that will abandon you the second you stream something else or that are just annoying to have around?
I'm trying to narrow down my options for games to pick one to play exclusively on my first few months, like every single streaming video advice vouches for, and I remembered that I used to play the Saints Row series in a kind of unique way, but I know nothing of its players.

[Anonymous No.]

>have a chronic cough my entire life
Was my vtuber journey over before it began...?
Kidding... .....
I'll just use push to talk and make prerecorded youtube content, but feelsbadman all the same
>>17045608
Thank you for answering! Besides drawing and some video ideas on the youtube side of things... I do need to think about content more... I really wouldn't wanna get burnt out on drawing streams. Gaming seems fun, but I worry I'll lean on it too much or not have much to talk about during down time or say something stupid... But at least I'm not terrible at vidya
When it comes to things that aren't personal projects or drawing, I worry I may not be very entertaining... Maybe I'll take some improv classes...

[Anonymous No.]

>>17046746
>not just playing a sick vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

>>17046693
League of Legends has the most toxic, trollish, annoying community out there and if you stream enough they will eventually find their way into your chat. They also only watch LoL streamers so they will 100% abandon you the moment you play something else.
The downside, of course, is that you have to play LoL.
If you want to practice and leave no trace behind though, why don't you make a new channel and stream with a PNG and abandon it when you feel ready to actually start?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17047061
... You know, I didn't think about that... I may actually add that to my character cuz it fits but at the same time I don't think anyone wants to hear me cough every 5 minutes... They aren't exactly cute coughs either
Do cute coughs even exist?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17047242
Sometimes when people like, try and supress their coughs and keep its volume down it can end up sounding sorta cute but it probably depends on person
or maybe I have autism

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>>17047134
But if they abandon you once you stream something else, then... good riddance? To me it's concerning because I do like League, but want to make videos about other games in the future, but for someone whose premisse isn't just streaming League, then having the toxic community abandom them would be the best case scenario, no?

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>>17047242
DSP constantly snorts, burps, and coughs directly into the mic and people seem to like it. he still has a literal cult following.
If you're a female though, it will be far easier to get away with passing your coughing as cute. Is your coughing dry or more phlem-ish?

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>>17047134
Good thing I only feel disdain towards League as a game then.

>If you want to practice and leave no trace behind though, why don't you make a new channel and stream with a PNG and abandon it when you feel ready to actually start?
That's no good. My first goal is to get a couple of regular viewers.

>>17047572
>people seem to like it
I think they just find it funny that he is this disgusting of a person on both the inside and outside.

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>>17047478
Oh I think I get what you're talking about... I always feel like those types of coughs are fake? Or maybe my coughing is just that brutal... Like whatcha getting out by doin the tiny cute ones?
Which I also do in shorter intervals kek
But autism or not there are sneeze fetishists too... At the very least, maybe after a year or two if I build up a fanbase, I can use it for content... Then see how people react and who knows maybe they'll actually be fine with my coughing but I've got some pretty gnarly coughs...
>>17047572
But burps and farting and stuff on that level is usually considered comedy though right? Low tier comedy, but still comedy. Coughs and sniffling and stuff is usually regarded as annoying or insufferable to some people
And yeah I'm female so I'll probably get a little leeway... But I do some strong coughing. Usually phlem-ish and I clear my throat a lot too. When I really let them rip, my family tells me they can feel my coughs physically. like the soundwaves and shit. It's pretty rough, but I can sometimes go a few hours without much coughing, but I haven't really figured out how to control that...
Best case is I do p2t or master the art of quick muting myself and I've mostly come to terms with that
>>17047744
Also this yeah DSP kind of built of an audience that would probably love him no matter what gross or loud things he does

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Maybe a weird question, but does anyone here have a beard/moustache? If so, have you found a workaround for mouth tracking not really working well with it? I can't tape my moustache up every stream :(

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If I posted my vtuber concepts here, is there an actual chance people here would steal the idea? Is there a history of it? Or is it better all around to keep the design to myself until debut?

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>>17048264
have you just tried adjusting the sensitivity settings in VTube Studio to what your camera picks up? If you go into the physics tab for each of the body parts you should be able to set the minimum and maximum for your mouth open/closing

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>>17048208
>sneeze fetishists
I'm a dude but people tell me that when I hold my sneezes in I make the most feminine fucking noise possible
Shit's kinda weird, if I'm talking to people online at least I always mute before now

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>>17048614
I'll give that a try - thanks!

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>>17045328
I got 2 oil barons and people who regularly sub to me with their free sub (Twitch takes a cut, but I'm still appreciative). I have no idea where they came from. I don't advertise myself, but network instead. One oil baron mentioned they had a lot of disposable income so dropping a few hundred doesn't hurt them (apparently they don't have hobbies to spend the money on).

I don't treat the oil barons any differently than the other people who watch, so maybe that's why they kept throwing money at me. Both the barons said they wanted to support me. I also don't do GFE, fetish related things, pandering, I'm not vulgar (sex jokes are cheap and disgusting), and don't swear constantly (I'm not above swearing every now and then though).

>>17045552
It's mostly my real self and personality except with certain parts of it turned up (I'm a bit louder, more energetic, etc.). The part of my self I keep locked away is an actual menhera that stalks other chuubas.

>>17046746
I have a chronic cough too and I got into a habit of muting my mic every time I have to cough while streaming. I let chat know about my coughing fit if I can feel a bad one coming up that's gonna last more than 10 secs. You don't need to limit yourself to prerecorded videos.

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>>17048264
I've had similar issues only mine isn't to do with facial hair or anything like that. I'm ADHD possibly autistic with some flat affect so my expressions are more subtle. I've had to turn up sensitivity on vseeface and experiment with it a bit to get it to respond.

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>>17048874
F... At least it panders to a relatively harmless audience kek
>>17050016
Whoa really? This is actually really really uplifting thank you!! It's amazing just how patient some audiences can be...
And yeah I don't know what I was thinking earlier, but muting myself would be better than p2t.
Do you do small coughs on stream still? Or mute for every one? I'm assuming a good pop filter miiight help reduce the noise?
Given it all goes well... My next big fear will be ripping a solid COOF and forgetting to mute kek
Thank you

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Have you told your audience that you browse 4chan?

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>>17050792
Why would that ever come up?

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>>17031253
Yes, go to Youtube and check.

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>>17050016
>I don't advertise myself, but network instead.
That's exactly how I got my whales. They saw me do some collabs with various friends or just show up on their streams chatting and they liked me, and they're still my top donos despite the fact i'm male and not feminine in the slightest me not being nearly as good of a streamer as my larger friend that's supported me is. There's no understanding what goes on in their heads but I'm thankful they picked me and enjoy my streams.

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>>17050713
Small throat clears/coughs once in a while are fine with me personally. My chat said they're ok with me coughing a lot and to not apologize, but I want their viewing experience to be good so I mute if I do it too often (just to be polite). Sometimes a bad cough comes out and I couldn't mute in time, but it's not the end of the world since I tilt my head away from the mic and cough to the side so it's not as loud. Chat just asks me if I'm good and don't make a big deal out of it. I don't have a phlegm-filled cough though, just a dry one.

A hot drink helps a lot to stop my throat irritation (hot water with honey is common, but I don't like it). Anything that can coat your throat a bit is good (oily food for example). Not sure if it'll help your phlegm though.

A pop filter wouldn't reduce the noise, it only stops puffs of air from hitting your mic directly. I suggest turning your head to the side if you can't mute on time so you aren't blowing your chat's eardrums out.

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>>17048208
>>17048208
I cough a lot too, especially in colder weather. I find hot drinks, like hot tea works to calm it down

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I want to be a streamer but the anxiety is so bad. I was fairly sucessful before, but i got crushed under my menhera ways. Any tips to contain and preform till the end?

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>>17058207
If it's not for you it's not for you
Think of it like a job you have to attend everyday but youre wracked full of anxiety
I dont think it ever goes away

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On the topic, im surprised Mysta even got into Niji, they were a fairly average streamer with nothing outstanding going for them

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>>17061052
I didn't particularly care for him but I did recognize how entertaining he was and potential he had for a bigger audience, I just don't think he was given the chance or maybe wasn't networking enough. I only ever saw clips from him once in a while on Twitter but I was surprised when I saw his numbers after he joined niji, I assumed he had a few hundred viewers or something prior to joining but he wasn't even partner

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>>17061052
>>17061670
Don't underestimate the nepotism buff.

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>>17040271
Covers cost money. Unless you can do the mixing yourself or have money you won't get far.

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>>17061670
He was in a lot of friend circles so it wasn't a networking issue, he was just always sort of mediocre. I think they were also declining right before being accepted

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for the marketing chuubas, what tags do you use on tiktok that usually get you the most traction?

[Anonymous No.]

Wanna be a Honkai vtuber?
Just shill yourself and your reaction to this Indog guy and he'll rally his fellow SEAnigger Honkaifag friends and followers to your channel for free

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Before I waste a lot of money: Leapdroid works with Vroids, right?

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>>17066622
Hi Anyaposter! What have you been watching lately?

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>>17054799
>>17054434
Thank you both very much for your replies. I can't reply properly right now, but I want to let you know I appreciate your help! If thread is still up later, I'll reply properly. Best of luck to you both in your careers!

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>>17066844
Nothing, I have been disastrously busy.

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How soon is too soon to make a Patreon? If you have a Patreon, what do you offer on it? Exclusive streams? Voice recording requests?

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>>17069179
> If you have a Patreon, what do you offer on it?
Find other chuuba with a patreon and find out.

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I did my first stream today with my png. Spilled my spaghetti everywhere and then after ending, realized I was streaming at the wrong resolution. But it was fun

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How do you avoid being branded as "pure"? I've seen some vtubers that talk about lewd things and non pure topics still get labeled as "pure" somehow and still bring about that toxic audience. How do I avoid getting that type of audience? I can't exactly talk about sex much and stay monetized

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don't take the bait

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>>17074375
Bait? If you're talking about my post here
>>17074228 then I'm very serious... Was it a dumb question?

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>>17074228
Not much way around it, you're either pure or a whore and you gotta pick one you prefer. Also stop caring about what other people label you, it reads super insecure. You know who you are as a person, why should it matter if they think you're pure?

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>>17075996
It's not about the labels anon, it's about the audience. I don't want to be put on some pure idol pedestal where I'm locked in a cage and actively CANT be myself. And I've seen people that DO be themselves still fall down that hole.
Curating and creating your audience is extremely important as a streamer imo. And the audience that puts their vtubers on that sort of "pure uwu perfect waifu" pedestals tend to be the most terrifying if you slip up even a single time. I know how to avoid going head on into that position.

I suppose I did a poor job explaining as well. I moreso want tips on curating your audience to form a good viewership besides just making good content... But your use of "whore" makes me think you aren't the type of person I should be asking.

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i warned you not to take the bait

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>>17074228
It's legit the wrong hobby for this stuff, your audience will always likely have someone using you as a surrogate gf and be uncomfortable with you not being pure.
The best I can say is either just bee urself :) or be extremely casual when talking about non pure topics, if you make a big deal about it then people will think you're a massive larper (See Marine or Aloe)

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>>17076391
I assumed this would be the likely answer... I was hoping maybe someone figured out a good trick to finding a good balance. I think my general personality type will help me in my goal here at least. Sorry for taking your time and thank you for the answer and humoring me if it really was a silly question

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>>17076246
Tell people to stop doing things you don't like, ban them if they don't. It's extremely simple.

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When making your emails, social media, the like for your chuuba, do you use your fabricated/chuuba birthday? I’m afraid I might get locked out or asked for proof of identification in the future and I obviously wouldn’t be able to.

>>17050016
>>17054103
>I don't advertise myself, but network instead.
How do you know if you’re approaching the right people (you will benefit from them)? And when is a good time to start asking? Asking from the perspective of someone who doesn’t really watch indie chuubas and is just about to start.

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>>17078333
just keep a note document or use a password manager for things like that. i don't associate any PL characteristics or traits like my birthday with anything, but maybe i'm too paranoid

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>>17078333
>How do you know if you’re approaching the right people (you will benefit from them)? And when is a good time to start asking?
They were my friends, honestly I couldn't tell you how I got to here from there. I made friends through friends, friends through those friends, etc.

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>>17079177
>They were my friends
>I have no friends in this industry other than being mutuals with a handful of 2views who are on hiatus more than they stream
Do any of you recommend reaching out to them since I’m starting out even lower on the totem pole than they are?

Or do I just stick with the strat I had on the back of my mind which was inviting my irls who have some interest in Vtubing to join me after I’ve put one foot through the door?

There’s also reaching out to fellow countrymen since I come from a place with a good number of chuubas. Wouldn’t mind locking my audience to my country since I’m an ESL who’s more comfortable mixing English and my native language anyway. But pros and cons of that?

Inb4 “just start streaming”, I’m just waiting for my model and I might as well make use of the time I’m just passing by waiting by learning the ropes.

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Aspire to succeed by first keeping this thread alive

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>long hair on VRoid immediately breaks in VSeeFace
Dammit I’m so close to something that moves

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>>17081503
IS there a way to import hair into the new version of vroid? I tried dropping it into the appdata folders, and nothing happened.

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Selen~

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Will you already put all the info(rules, twitter/youtube channel/donations) to your panels since beginning or not gonna do it until sometime later?

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>>17086897
Better sooner than later. Although make sure you got something on those links first

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>>17086897
Getting your panels set up is part of the "professional" look. It's probably not going to make anyone click on you, follow you, or leave your stream, by itself... But it might make them less well disposed to you. It looks like the streamer hasn't put in quite as much effort, so maybe they're not taking it as seriously.

It's like having an overlay. If it's done well, you won't notice it. But you might notice if there's not one, just a game, model, and blackness.

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Bump
Keep doing your reps.