you'd think 9/11 happened to this board

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but no, this is drama over one SC and overblown drama

[Anonymous No.]

There needs to be a hard lockdown on male collabs for the forseeable future

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>>16763158
Look if /vt/ doesn't hyper overreact over the smallest thing what are the trolls and attention whores going to do? Stop posting?
Nah they'd just start time looping old trash.

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But 9/11 was a national tragedy

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>>16763158
i still don't really get the context

[Anonymous No.]

the power of dedicated discord troons

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>>16763503
No. I want this board to go overdrive.

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>>16763158
Did Mori do something? I've been out of the loop.

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>>16764073
>Conner calls Hololive girls talentless
>Months later Calli gets a superchat saying she shouldn't associate with him because of what he said
>She gets mad
>Something else happens that makes it blow up here
>Everyone is fighting on /vt/
And thats about as much as I could understand. Any questions?

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>>16763158
unlike 9/11 this wasn't pre-planned

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>>16763158
IRyS did 911

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>>16764212
mori kinda fell back here. how can you not sniff te bullshit of what connor does? he's a retarded anituber

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>>16763158
/vt/ is somehow different right now compared to literally every other day?

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>>16764212
no, I get it
it just all seems very benign to me

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>>16763503
but /vt/ told me this had nothing to do with males...

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>have cancer that's spreading
>try and cut it out
>WHOA WHY ARE YOU REACTING YOU'RE SO REACTIONARY

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>>16764964
>>16764988
It grew into what it is now because people kept adding to it. The original issue was what Connor said and then people started saying it was about collabing with males and then people were saying Mori hates Hololive and these things mixed and created confusion which only created more anger

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>>16765016
>try and cut it out
I would understand if you were planning to spam cover about it but you are spamming the board.

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>>16764233
IRyS called a cop?

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>>16764230
But Israelis were involved all the same.

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>There needs to be a hard lockdown on male collabs for the forseeable future

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>>16765213
I knew the shekelbeat was behind this

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>>16765240
There aren't any black people on the internet you silly goof

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>>16763158

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>>16765165
> spam cover
honestly cover doesn't give two shits about EN's quality if it brings in money.
they used to, but now seems they noticed the western fanbase will be satisfied with any shit.

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>>16765420
they care about gura

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>>16765452
If only gura cared about herself.

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>>16765513
yeah...

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This timeloop is fucking boring, get better drama

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>>16765657
The fun thing about /vt/ is if you get bored you can make your own drama and at least 30% of the board will believe it. Maybe even 50% if you time it right

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>>16765392
second trumpet tier event that somehow gets elevated to third trumpet tier through sheer shitposting

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>>16765100
It's the basement dwellers making troll threads and posts on this board all their waking hours so they can farm the (you)s they need, in order to distract themselves from the fact that that's what their lives have been reduced to.

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>>16764212
I thought it was common knowledge that Mori's roommate ran in same circles as the shitty anitubers. Hell, she even appeared in a video with one of them.

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fuck anitubers

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Id crop out the Superchat and Connor donation, take a picture of the towers, put /vt/ on one and /hgl/ on the other, and have the crops crash into them, but I am too lazy to do it.

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>>16764026
I was knee high in blood and bones

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i gave chat here the benefit of a doubt and looked up connor calling hololive talentless, and it was literally just banter, i should have known better than to trust 4chan schizzos

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>>16770195
Give me the superchat and donation and ill do it

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btw i am not even a mori cumguzzler, i am an irys/suisei/enna/aoi/ai supporter, but mori hatesr are on another level bro, its not that serious.

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>>16763158
You sad fucks make /meat/ look civilized in comparison!

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What did Mori do this time?

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>>16770434
existing.

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>>16770425
Good idea! Send Mori to /meat/! If Connor cant get her than everyone cant!

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>>16770337
Here is the super chat, but its reddit censored >>16759468
Here is the dono, I tried cleaning it up but half assedly so I included one with background intact

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>>16764073
She donated $250 to Connor.

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>>16764212
The funny thing is he isn't even wrong, most of them are propped up by a brand that went viral.
But the hypocrisy is the bad bit in all of this.

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>>16765452
true

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>>16763503
>There needs to be a hard lockdown on /vt/ schizos for the forseeable future
ftfy

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>>16765452
>they care about gura
kek, are you serious? After the rigger incident?

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>>16763158
Tell that to Mori

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>>16763158
>9/11

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>>16771488
it is funny how all of the JP girls are posed in literally any kind of way and then gura is standing there in pure autist mode

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>>16776952
Based

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>>16763158
irys is gonna date a EN holostar who happens to live in Japan

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>>16765928
dude thats what makes this board great the smallest thing will happen and this board will make it bigger then the Jews made the holocaust

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do NOT use IRyS to post shit takes, (no) thanks

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>>16777255
Yeah, but the Holocaust didn't happen. This actually did.

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>>16776952
>We are just suppliers. We don't create the market for drama.
>Then who does? The dramachannels are gone.
>Those guys just managed the shitpost economy, they didn't invent it.
>Did you think every yab in hololive is part of some big ol' conspiracy?
>Demand for collab bans is about to skyrocket -- Like the good ol'days after the Taiwan incident.

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>>16765100
You mean to tell me that the reason why Mori is under all this fire is because a hypocrite called vtubers hacks?

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ONE (1) SINGULAR SUPERCHAT
ONE (1) SINGULAR STATEMENT FROM A WELSH TWINK
how did we get here?
before all the raids and shit it was majority “we are okay with male collabs we just hate connor”
but after all this raiding and shitposting i can’t tell anymore
I mean obviously it’s a screaming minority but still

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>>16763158
Because of Mori I get Connorshit in my YT recs.

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>>16763158
>$100
Pic related is all it took to put the entire /vt/ board in shambles. A very low price for the amount of damage done.

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>literally transforms from Connor bad to I HATE THE MALE ANTICHRIST
>people fueling the fire by saying “haha le starsen soon” which not even holostars fans here want btw

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>>16779764
>Like the good ol'days after the Taiwan incident.
kek

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She already dropped the name kson on stream when she did the kind of q&a recently

dunno if thats big, but its a step

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>>16771304
I mean, the brand gets you more initial viewers, not sustained ones. that's on you.

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>>16780673
It's the fags trying to play damage control for Mori's stupid antics. She had a terrible reaction to a fan, it got people riled up, and she perpetuated the drama by doing multiple stupid things afterword with her work account. Yes, this is a job and yes it's up to her to shape her own PR and she's really doing a shit job at the moment. Now the fags who want to wash it all under the bridge are morphing it into MALE HATE when it had nothing to do with MALE in the first place.

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>>16771304
>most of them are propped up by a brand
But is it easy to get into said brand? No. Not without connections anyways, like oh real jobs.

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>>16763503
this but unironically

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>>16764233
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h3gb9mjDxw

No, it was Gura

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>>16764988
Deadbeats are mad that the girl they like is going out drinking with a male who shits on them and Hololive. The male part makes it sting slightly more, I guess.

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>>16763158
9/11 was nothing compared to Mori donating to Connor, stupid burger.

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>>16781400
damn how did gura pull off that complicated maneuvre despite having very few flight hours and having never flown that type of aircraft before?
Something's fishy...

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All it takes is one superchat, from one based retard, to make deadbeats and this board lose its fucking marbles. Imagine what (You), anon, could do if you became a based retard and superchatted like Oppainaut did. Do it.

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>>16781854
Well just consider the effort she put in to get said airplane in the first place

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>>16764212
>Conner calls Hololive girls talentless
He didn't say that

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>>16782827
No, he said you can have no talent in Hololive and still have success.
So why would he say that if he didn't already have someone in mind that he considered talentless?

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>>16781468
Don't forget the fact that cuckbeats superchats pay for Connors condoms

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>>16763158
But 9/11 was a good thing it kiled a bunch of new yorkers

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>>16783293
NTA but he never used thr word talent either. Like, don't make me defend aomeone I hate please get your shit straight or you're a falseflagger

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>>16783293
Because you can make an observation about fame and prevalence of "hololive" as a brand without thinking about anyone in particular

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>>16783938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysjr7oBjYMM
okay so he doesn't use that one word thus the meaning of what he's saying is completely different (not)

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>>16783293
The guy has little in the way of "talent" himself, so all of this is laughable for me. Imagine touting yourself as a professional voice actor when at most you've received small gigs for minor NPCs in less than a handful of games and been in a few YouTube ((((((anime)))))) productions.
All of his success comes from neckbeards and losers living their dream vicariously through him as a white guy who lives in Japan as a "voice actor."

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>>16771356
Haha, get fucked rest of myth and council.

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>>16784063
lmao dude go ahead and believe that.
He doesn't like vtubers and only likes ironmouse because she's one of the few whores who will give him the light of day
Then has the balls to talk smack about how Hololive's brand carries people to instant success (Holostars would like a word with you) despite that HE HIMSELF only has a following because he's on trash taste and has no skills of his own besides being born with a deep english voice.

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Prediction: Trash Taste guys will push back and start a campaign against unicorns and purity fags. It won't be the first time they've tried to fix Japan, they're woke activists at heart.
It will be easy for them to look like the good guys too because things like the condom money superchat look insane to normies.
Cover will kneel and put out a statement ta they support their talents desires to collab with whoever they wish and will commit to improving idol culture by hiring Connor as their new Equity and Inclusion Director.

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>>16784351
I wish that would happen just to see the meltdown hahahahaha

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>>16784083
I understand where you're coming from but you gotta agree you take the most inflammatory borderline rrat/drama fuel interpretation of it. I cant blame you, you're probably younger and grew up in a world where rage clickbait is the norm.
Still just playing devil's advocate here btw.

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>>16765257
Anatomy-chama....

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>>16784351
good, people who hate TT or connor are incels

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>>16784592
Or they just don't like faggot anitubers nigger

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>>16781268
BASED. Was gonna write the same thing.

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>>16783293
>So why would he say that if he didn't already have someone in mind that he considered talentless?
Because you can say that without having someone in mind, retard-kun? God it is surprising how some of you have room temp iq and are still alive

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>>16784457
My summary of "he said you can have no talent in Hololive and still have success" was pretty much correct but you wanted to be nitpicky just because I was paraphrasing him.
You say that statement isn't that big of a deal but it's his general attitude towards vtubers and his history that should tell anyone that he hates Hololive and you're really giving him the benefit of the doubt too much thinking that he said those things but he also does not think that there is anyone in Hololive who is talentless.

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>>16784592
>incels
you have to go back your normalfag lingo is leaking

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>>16784327
You're unpleasant.

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>>16784795
How does that make any sense?
If there isn't anybody in Hololive who is talentless that completely disproves his whole point.
>You can be talentless in Hololive and still succeed
>uhh there actually isn't anyone in Hololive who IS talentless so my statement is founded on nothing and if anything contradicts reality

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>>16764964
It is benign for most people. But /vt/, are the biggest drama whores on 4chins and so here we are.

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Just wait wait until starsEN gets announced this place will be unusable

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>>16784327
I don't care for the guy either, but I just ignore his existence rather than go on shizo rants about what he thinks and how many holos he's trying to fuck

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>>16784986
You're defending an unpleasant person who has been negative and will keep being negative about Hololive but wants to clout chase and leech off of Hololive. Of course I will get upset at you.

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>>16764026
two towers werent enough

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>>16785127
NTA but what is SEETHING going to do about it? Who cares about a shitty anituber?

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>>16785127
Why do you even give a fuck? Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16785127
Please don't unfollow me on Twitter, I didn't realize he was toxic!

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>>16764026
What would norms oshi be

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>>16785237
>>16785297
>>16785323

There is a reason I watch Hololive and not anyone else, Mori is trying to make Hololive like everything else and ruin the appeal. I and many others don't want to hear or see Twitch faggot anitubers in Hololive but Mori is desperate to invite that crowd.
"Just don't watch" is not enough because it will be and is seeping into everything.

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>>16784834
I personally think:
a) people's definition of talent is too widespread and can really mean anything leading to a moot discussion
b) talent (w/e it means) is irrelevant to this gig because it's entertainment and people will flock to whatever entertains them be it drama good at fps games lewd or gfe
c) the guy kind of has a point, as there are a number of (imo ofc) more entertaining independent vtubers with but a fragment of holos size. I mean cmon gen6 had like 500k subs even before they debuted.
d) the guy didn't have the intent to create drama or shit on the holos but he should've known better, like, "this will trigger all sorts of fans" kinda thing, specially if he was friends with cali.
Overall I just think he could've chosen better words to portray his thoughts.
But wtf do I know, i dont follow the guy maybe this was his 200IQ roast that went over my head.

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>>16785177
retardchama...

[Anonymous No.]

Dead cucks still in full cope mode kek.

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>>16780414
You want the real answer? Le final yab retards are running low on fuel after Coco is gone and Haachama returned to her normal activites. Shitposters want a Taiwan 2 so bad and they are running out of material to work with so they are becoming increasingly desperate to spin wild ideas about "the neggst bigg yabb???!?!" Go back to hornyposting, it's the only thing you anons are any good for.

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>>16785488
>I watch hololive and not anything else
>Mori is trying to make hololive like everything else
How the fuck would you know what everything else is like if you literally admit to not watching any of them you retard?

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>>16785488
She was serious about the "pop the hololive bubble", eh?
I miss old vtuber times.

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>>16785550
a) I think talent is a perfectly fine word to use because even though it doesn't describe one particular skill or anything, it still means a Holomember has something they are good at
b) same as above
c) It's one thing to say that Holo members get free subs by being Holo members, but it's another thing entirely to claim that someone can lack a talent and still be successful. And again I point to Holostars who may have some success in Japan but it's definitely tame compared to the idols/women. If what Connor said was true the holostars should be at 2k ccv minimum.
d) He definitely knew it would be dramatic and he does that all the time. He's the kind of drama instigator who goes "hm well yeah people arent going to like what im gonna say but i dont give a fuck they can be mad hehe" which he basically said after he made the statement about Hololive

All he had to say was that Hololive members get free subs but he chose to make it about a lack of talent. I say he deliberately did it to stir drama because that is what he is known for and that is why I want him far away from Hololive.

This would not be a controversial opinion if Mori had not defended him the way she did.

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>>16763158
>this is drama over one SC and overblown drama
Explain

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>>16786232
I've obviously watched other groups and know what they're like, retard, which is why I know to avoid them in the first place. Hololive is the only one I actively watch.
It's not hard to understand.

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>>16786523
>I watched other groups and determined that Holo is unique
You haven't watched other groups and even if you have you don't know what they're like

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>>16786511
NVM, I was too lazy to read the thread but tl;drs are always welcomed

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>>16786511
Calli was the first to overblow it. All she had to do was ignore that superchat and nobody would be here right now, but her reaction to it was way off the mark

>>16786610
I'm sorry youre SO right lol. I guess you know better about what I have and haven't watched

[Anonymous No.]

Its a super simple low hanging fruit. That's why it gets so much traction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16786511
Quite literally /vt/ is the only place going on meltdown mode whereas every place else is fine. /vt/ are the biggest drama queens and I’m still shocked they still focused on this while everyone else moved on

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>>16786701
>but her reaction to it was way off the mark
And /vt/'s has been so much worse.

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>>16763158
>but no, this is drama over one SC and overblown drama
Are you talking about the board or Mori

[Anonymous No.]

>>16787009
>whereas every place else is fine.
You'd be hard pressed to find negative criticism about Hololive anywhere else to begin with, idiot

[Anonymous No.]

>>16787009
Most of them are doing it for the drama and (You)'s. I doubt many genuinely give a shit either way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16787103
Mori's reaction shows where her values lie and it's not with her coworkers. She'd rather chase after eceleb men than play minecraft with pekora for a couple hours

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>>16787285
She got mad at one SC. Stop taking everything so personal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16765100
I see. So just another good day in /vt/. Wake me up when the starsen is announced officially.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16764026
why are you laughing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16787415
It wasn't just this one superchat, this incident is one example of many that show that Mori has her eyes set on things outside of Hololive
I can understand why someone like you would think this drama is unwarranted if you just dont follow her at all but trust me it will only get worse from here if Cover management doesn't shut her up, and she will be to blame.

[Anonymous No.]

Dad cucks dead cucking now

[Anonymous No.]

>>16781139
So what you’re telling me is that deadbeats are fanning the flames to deflect away from the main issue which is causing anti threads to my holoboys?
wtf I hate deadbeats now

[Anonymous No.]

>>16763158
stfu cuckbeat

[Anonymous No.]

>>16783293
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy0jqr6KY9Q
Because in context of the actual conversation, he presented the idea of people lying to get jobs and presents a hypothetical scenario in which someone would rat their way into a company and find success, he just used hololive as an example because he was talking to another vtuber. Even in the hypothetical he's not wrong if someone gets into hololive via false credentials they would still find success because of the brand. But he never calls anyone in hololive talentless. he presents a scenario, retards on twitter used it as bait and you dumbasses bit. this connor rrat is by far the worst one and yet no one here checks sources.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16785796
> Y-You must stay quiet and take cocks in your ass!

[Anonymous No.]

>>16781139
stfu unicorn incel

[Anonymous No.]

>>16784834
>was pretty much correct
no it wasn't, the word "talent" isnt even used at any point.
>should tell anyone that he hates Hololive
Only if you are are anti-social schizo that doesnt go outside. He never hated vtubers, never hated hololive, and never had any strong feelings either way, he has no reason to hate.


> can lack a talent and still be successful
this happens all the time

>holostars should be at 2k ccv minimum.
Fucking idiot, you are implying that holostars are untalented, you are saying something more heinous and unacceptable than Connor does. Most holostars are more talented than most female holos. Holostars prove Connor correct.
They are less popular because of how Cover handled them and separated them from female holos and didnt allow or discourages collabs for a long time. They specifically didnt call them hololive but holostars, reducing the brand power.

>. I say he deliberately did it to stir drama
youre a fucking idiot, you know that right? He was speaking to an audience that agrees with him already and having a normal conversation with a friend, not to schizos on 4chan.

KYS, you dont care about hololive, you're just trying to hate on someone that makes you feel insecure. Youre an anti and dont belong anywhere.

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>>16789986
Your reading comprehension is pretty fucking piss poor dude, your whole post is you misinterpreting what I said. I'll bite anyways.

>no it wasn't, the word "talent" isnt even used at any point.
Connor made a lengthy sentence that I summarized. I didn't change the meaning of what he said even if I added words.
>He never hated vtubers, never hated hololive, and never had any strong feelings either way, he has no reason to hate.
Take a look at my picrel for sourced statements from him.
>this happens all the time
Except there are no instances of it in Hololive, which is what we are talking about.
>Fucking idiot, you are implying that holostars are untalented, you are saying something more heinous and unacceptable than Connor does. Most holostars are more talented than most female holos
That wasn't at all what I said. I was using Connor's own logic and contrasted it with reality. Holostars benefit from the Hololive branding yet don't see success that even matches their talent, let alone is "more than they deserve".
You then made a bunch of excuses as to why Holostars "aren't really Hololive branded so Connor's logic does not apply" because what I just said goes against you and Connor's argument.
>youre a fucking idiot, you know that right?
Connor has a history for saying shit to stir drama and he outright said that he knew people weren't going to like what he said when he made that statement.

>KYS, you dont care about hololive, you're just trying to hate on someone that makes you feel insecure. Youre an anti and dont belong anywhere.
If I didn't care about Hololive I would let Connor and other ecelebs who ironically don't have any talent themselves invade the space more and ruin it.
Cope harder, and you should maybe read a couple books before you respond to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16763503
>lockdown on male collabs for the forseeable future
Until we can figure out what the hell is going on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16764026
*holiday

[Anonymous No.]

>>16788919
Honestly with or without context Mori still did pretty bad defending him instead of maybe just shutting the hell up. Heck even the dying Mouse handled it pretty well

[Anonymous No.]

>>16764212
>Conner calls Hololive girls talentless

Well, he is right about Mori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16790743
NTA, but its not connor isn't it ? or am i missing the disscussion and you're not talking about connor ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16791406
i mean the picrel

[Anonymous No.]

>>16790743
>Holostars benefit from the Hololive branding yet don't see success
It shows that talent is not the mainfactor here you damn mongoloid. Holostars wouldve been much more successful if they were handled the way Nijisanji handles their male vtubers.

Your (retarded) argument would apply only if Holostars were popular in the first place, but they aren't because they are treated differently by the company. Connor is talking about HOLOLIVE because they are... popular instantly (relatively), before even debuting getting hundreds of thousands of eyes on them.

Youre misrepresenting things to make a moronic argument that is illogical. Holostars would be popular if they werent holostars but legit hololive that were treated equally, like nijisanji males.
>Connor has a history
no he doesnt, you clearly dont even know anything about him, youre a butthurt nerd who thinks theyre personally attacked when they see an opinion they disagree with.
>I would let
as if you have any ability to do anything, youre in no position to "let" anything. Cringe.

> don't have any talent
how the fuck does this argument even work retard chama? If connor isnt talented then neither are holos, he has marketable skills and is arguably much more successful too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16791244
Sure but the whole people are flipping their shit is based on rrat theory that Mori desu was justified in being upset over because they were smearing his. Did she handle it well no, but were her feelings justified sure because Connor and her are still fuckbuddies or friends idc which and obviously care about one another. Especially since they both live in Japan and Mori proly doesn't have many english speaking friends that she can communicate with regularly so their friendship circle is smaller.

[Anonymous No.]

>YouTube: Hey thanks for the stream see you next time
>Twitter: Understandable, I’m excited about what you’re planning on doing next stream
>Reddit few days ago: There’s no need for drama, let’s Move on. Planning on any concerts soon?
>Rest of 4chan plus general /vt/ threads: oh ok, anyway what’s she gonna do next guys
>The rest of /vt/, SHE DID WHAT?!?!?!
PREACH HER PREACH HER! SHES MUST GRADUATE! I CANT STAND THIS, SOCIETY IS COLLAPSING AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
You guys are embarrassing, everyone else EVEN TWITTER moved on except you people, at least the general threads are stable but Christ almighty

[Anonymous No.]

>>16780414
>>16786170
The real answer is that Mori took the bait, you retards. It's stale bait, downright unappetizing, and deserved to be ignored or at most a 'whoa dude big ups, don't care', but she bit anyway. This wasn't the first time and it won't be the last.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16790743
Go back nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>16791725
If you have a problem with what’s on 4chan then just don’t browse this website normalfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16791563
>If connor isnt talented then neither are holos, he has marketable skills and is arguably much more successful too.
That is so laughable dude.
Once again you didn't read anything that I said, so I'm done going around in circles with you

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>>16791725
Who the fuck cares what those sites do? /vt/ doesn't need to conform to them. We're a rrat factory and we're fucking proud of it.

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>>16791839
>>16791725
Maybe you should go back to the Reddit hugbox if you don't like that someone hurts your feelings.

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>>16791932
maybe you should read what i said better to understand that youre an idiot with mental issues.

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>>16791854
I was specifically targeting this this board and not the general threads, these people spewing drama are acting no better than the hyper obsessed idol fans people have criticized here prior

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>>16786400
I dunno dude you're still making it about talent when it clearly isn't

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>>16792002
I'm not going to give your shitty points any thought if you won't give mine any.
I gave you a pretty well-written response but all you could muster was name-calling and just saying "nuh-uh" to everything

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>>16791725
Yes.
Now go back.

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>>16792002
i demonstrated your arguments are downright illogical

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>>16792107
"Clearly isn't"? Even though Connor said talent without saying the word talent? You guys act like he's absolved of everything because he avoided saying the one word even though his entire premise relied on it.

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>>16792244
Looks like you (You)'d incorrectly
You didn't prove anything. Again, all you did was call me names and say "nuh-uh" without any proof.

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>>16792366
ill spoonfeed you:
>argument would apply only if Holostars were popular in the first place, but they aren't
> HOLOLIVE because they are... popular
>Holostars would be popular if they werent holostars but legit hololive that were treated equally, like nijisanji males.

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>>16792252
It's just the voices in your head at this point. Take a chill pill.

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>>16790743
NTA, but picrel is actually about different anituber, Joey.
https://youtu.be/Q5ZHcqBumPc

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>>16792521
>argument would apply only if Holostars were popular in the first place, but they aren't
> HOLOLIVE because they are... popular
That's an arbitrary rule you made up. You don't have to be popular to be more famous than you "deserve" to be.

>Holostars would be popular if they werent holostars but legit hololive that were treated equally, like nijisanji males.
Again you're making excuses because the Holostars prove you wrong. What do Holostars not have that regular Hololivers have? How is management discriminating against them like you claim? They're not. They get treated pretty well in Japan but because you are neither Japanese nor a Japanese speaker you have no fucking clue because all you know is your little EOP bubble.

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>>16792630
That's my bad then, I saw that from someone talking about Connor and didn't check.

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Imo, it's just a few schizos and people who like drama for the sake of drama.
Possibly chink hololive antis trying to stir shit up too.
My view of Mori hasn't changed at all.

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>>16792874
lmfao youre literally denying reality, most people know this and its uncontroversial fact about holostars, they are branded differently and separated.
They are relatively unpopular, much less successful than Nijisanji males for obvious factual reasons, not because they are less talented. You are implying that they are less talented than Niji males, and less talented than hololive female vtubers, otherwise what youre saying makes no sense.

You are denying reality because you are obsessed and facts dont fit your schizo arguments.
And the fact is that holostars isnt as popular brand as hololive. It's not arbitrary , its a fact.

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>>16794087
You are a fucking snake, I am not at all implying that Holostars are less talented or anything.

Why Holostars are less popular is because Hololive is an idol company first, and the demand for male idols isn't as high as female idols. The audience that makes Hololive so popular now is the general streamer audience, not idolchads.

What you guys call unicorns are the guys who were into Hololive long before Coco and Gura blew it up in popularity among western EOP normiefags like you.

That idol culture and people who enjoy idol culture is now being frowned upon in this board is very telling of the type of newfaggots who post here.

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>>16765016
Anon, the only cancer that's spreading is the lunacy of this board's schizos.

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>>16794469
>The audience that makes Hololive so popular now is the general streamer audience

Then why isn't the general streamer audience making holostars more popular like with niji males? You are contradicting yourself. Holostars are streamers just like nijisanji males or hololive females.

It's a well known fact that holostars arent even looked at as "hololive", they are holostars, different brand. You are arguing as if they are the same brand, which is objectively false. Cope.

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>>16794668
Arguing with you people is such a chore because all you think about is how to make some stupid quip and be nitpicky rather than thinking a couple steps ahead and actually arguing my point.

Like I said, Hololive is an idol company first but that is being lost as more and more reddit underaged newfags become fans and the whole "idol" part just gets set aside.

>You are arguing as if they are the same brand, which is objectively false. Cope.
You're acting as if they're completely functionally independent of each other when they're not. People who know of Holostars know of Hololive and vise versa. There are most likely no or very few Holostars fans who aren't Hololive fans too.

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>>16771304
First of all, is not easy to get into Hololive. You need either connections to go on through nepotism like Sana (But she still has her artistic talent) or by a selection. The thing is that Mori criticized the same reasoning saying that she is here because all her hard work and shit like this.

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>>16794880
>Sprite is same as Coca Cola cuz its owned by same company and in the same stores

HOLOSTARS has less exposure than Hololive. It doesnt matter if hololive fans know about them, because most hololive fans are male into female vtubers, they are a different target demographic. Most nijimale fans are female.

Since Holostars are a different, less popular brand with less exposure, they are not bringing in their target audience like hololive brand does. And yes Management literally fucked holostars over all the time, and didnt let them mingle with their cashcow idols. They also get less marketing.

You're actually dumb.

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>>16794880
>>16795286

To add to the last part because I forgot to, why there isn't as much crossover from Hololive to Holostars is because Holostars is still focused on the idol stuff, not general streaming like HoloEN has really been pushing. Very few Hololive fans care about idol stuff anymore which is why Holostars underperforms relatively speaking.
Compare that to NijiEN males who aren't idols. They target a different audience which is why they get better numbers than Holostars. Not because they're more talented or anything.

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>>16783293
He didn't say that either
Isn't it interesting that everyone shitting on Connor actually has no idea what the actual quote was?

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>>16777255
Dey shoved 20 cm of male vtubers up my ass! I can still feel it to this day!

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>>16795482
>woah there buddy, you paraphrased something, and it turns out, what you posted wasn't word-for-word!!
No shit retarded faggot, hang yourself

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>>16795539
Quick retard test
Tell me, do you think these 2 statements are the same?
>Anon, please listen to me
>Anon! Listen to me right the fuck now!

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what's going on? can anyone tell me why everyone hates mori?

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>>16795736
Not only are those 2 statements not the same but your statements and my statements are not the same.
You're free to explain to me how my paraphrase was disingenuous.
Correct, Connor never used the word "talent", he just gave the dictionary definition.

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>>16795847
Better find out yourself.
By asking, you'll get answers with multiple variations.

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>>16795847
Can someone give me the qrd of this post?

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>>16783293
Two reasons come to mind. He knows someone who didn't get in and thinks she was better than one of them who did. Basically he has to tact. The other one being he hates what Hololive in general stands for. There's a reason he hangs out with vwhorejo so often.

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>>16781994
My Oshi doesn't yab so it's harder to be a based retard.

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>>16795847
>Connor says some shit that can come off as 'Some of Hololive doesn't have talent and rides to coattails of the brand name'
>People get mad.
>3 months go by
>Someone tries to revv up old rats to Connor on twitter.
>He takes the bait because he needs drama to feed his channel.
>Deflects the negativity of his statement 3 different ways.
>Never says sorry, even if it would cost him nothing to do so.
>People get pissed again.
>Regular of Mori's streams, SCer, and member sends her a red superchat saying he really didn't like what Connor said and was a little annoyed that Mori was covering for him and wished she would mention him less.
>Mori goes off on the regular about how no one can tell her who she can be friends with.
>Misses the point that people don't like the drama he brings.
>People start shitting on Connor through SC's.
>Mori goes to Connor's stream on twitch with her Hololive account and donates 50 subs to him ($250).
>People give her more shit for it.
>She makes the claim that any SC given to her that make fun of someone will be donated the same amount to that person they were shitting on in the SC.
>Realizes she's just inviting more drama to her.
>Backpeddles and says "I'll donate the money anonymously" because she'd also be losing whatever amount is taken by the cut from YT and Hololive.
You are here.

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>>16764212
The biggest part for me is moris song saying "little miss company hire" and the whole song saying that she worked hard to get where she is and that it wasnt just the brand.
And yet she defends connor saying exactly what the song admonished
Either the song was bullshit and she still has imposter syndrome thinking she has no talent.

Or worse
She thinks connors message does not apply to her so she thinks just as lowly of the other chubbas

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>>16796567
thanks

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>>16796934
Sorry, I forgot one last bit.
>Mori claims that Connor personally apologized for the comment he made directly to her genmates.
>Kiara has some overflow of drama hit her stream and someone asks if she's been talking to TT.
>She says she's never talked to them in her life.
Take that as you will.

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>>16797023
holy schizoposter "paraphrasing " again?

You are making up your own schizo head-canon and arent fairly representing meaning of anything. You know what "steelmaning" means? It's when you could represent someones thought so well that they'd say "couldnt have said it better myself", you are doing the opposite "strawmaning"

>She says she's never talked to them in her life.

kiara didnt say this retarded monkey. She even collabed with Gigguk so it makes no sense. Again removing context, making up your NTR fantasy. Also Kiara thinks you are a retard and deserve to be bullied for being such a faggot.

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I wish Mori would collab with nothing but males so I don't have to hear her fake enthusiasm and grumble through dickless collabs.

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>>16798989
https://streamable.com/5a8uq2
Aight then.

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>>16800059
She didnt say "never talked to them", she said that TT isn't the guys she was talking about when she suggested she will collab with males, denying people's guesses. She's talking about something completely different than your schizoid brain thinks.

Kys already enough is enough