/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Been off for a while
what happened to Koopa? Where are her threads and her youtube hasn't been uploaded on in a while... is she ok?

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>>16573496
mario grabbed the axe :(

[Anonymous No.]

>>16573496
Mario jumped on her

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>>16573496
She's still streaming! Here's the most recent VOD
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1264628239

[Anonymous No.]

>>16573496
god mario'd

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>>16573496
she changed over to twitch, thread basically got moved to the /gorls/ general where we talk about her, nina saotome, kitanya and nekoreen. also boneitis and irl forced into a crazy streaming schedule , so most streams are either 12am est or 2 pm est. supposedly she's gonna have a more stable schedule starting this spring

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>>16573496
She got a boyfriend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16577443
Yeah, me

[Anonymous No.]

>>16573496
>got groomed by a fan
>travelled one million miles to meet him
>used his semen as a boneitis treatment
>got mad when fans got mad
>she still spend all the money she gets on new costumes

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>>16573496
Plus : she's a on a better website for indies by a a large margin
Minus : she streams mostly for her close friends rather than her audience, though that issue started already back in January 2021 so it's just the continuation

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>>16578567
how'd you figure that minus out

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>>16573496
Not sure how long is "for a while"
She's very easily influenced and was a lonely woman so depending on what you liked about her, you may want to not dig deeper and keep your good memories
December 2020 was great, shaping up and using advice from the thread to improve and getting better each stream. Many legendary moments like the School days family tree.
However some dudes however saw how easy is was to push her around and directly confronted her asking for collabs, and given how she is she couldn't refuse and thus the first collabs where with some 0view malechuubas who like to brag about every female interaction they have like this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmZvAo0b_rQ and a few others after
Later she was pushed by a few vtuber and most dedicated simps to joind a private discord infamously called herdcord : https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/35773186/#35776021
Basically a selection of vtubers, artists and biggest simps in a private place and it caused quite the meltdown when it happened
Because of her weak nature she was easily groomed and mostly read the messages of the closest people to her in chat
Some of the guys who force their way close to her would sometimes brag about it in the thread to the point "Junii" even leaked her 3D model card (pic related) just for his personal satisfaction and feeling of showing how superior to other viewers he was, which caused more issues

She was also often sick and took regular breaks which severed a bit more her relation to her casual fanbase and made her feel the need for reliable and identifiable people she could trust when in such a weak state. It s tarted being noticeable at in the early days of her MuvLuv let's play especially if you want to see how her sickness affected her.
And thus as her more casual or normal fans were driven out more and more and made fun of, people close to her kept influencing her and telling her "see everyone hates you there, you're better with us" and she started completely ignoring the threads or any anonymous message in general and only relied on her close "friends" (many just opportunist or groomers) and started doing more and more collabs and ignoring fans more and more to the point her chat could sometimes be literally just vtubers sometimes and her chat is usually almost only vtubers, paypigs or artfags.
Somewhere in June I think she posted a Twitter soundpost which showed she was in the same room with "Spacer", one of her fans and one of the best male vtubers 4chan gave birth to, however it was badly received, but it was made worse by her answer which basically said "I'm sorry that offended you" and how she had the right to a private life, despite being completely off mark since this was posted under her vtubing account and thus not part of her private life at all. Many people consider she "fucked her fan" since this day.

She's still a good /k/ and /m/ olfag at heart and I'm happy she found friends, but she's definitely not the vtuber you used to know nor a vtuber that is fun to watch for viewers.

>>16579051
see above

[Anonymous No.]

>>16579178
>However some dudes however
one too many however in this gomen

[Anonymous No.]

>>16579178
was expecting some anti ramble but yeah I'll agree she really likes having friends and being with them even on stream, guess it's what most anons who suddenly got famous and everyone wanted to hang out with them would do aswell.

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>>16579178
Good summary, I did drop her when she started doing collabd after collab all the time and didn't seem to care for more casual viewers at all.

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>>16579476
Yeah I get why this message could seem to be anti rant
I don't hate her, I do think she was influenced way too heavily and not only by well-meaning people, and I wish she focused more on her general audience, but I'm still glad she's not lonely anymore, and some of her friends aren't all bad, the nina/africat clique is pretty cool.
Of course as a viewer I can't exactly celebrate since I don't feel welcomed when I her open her streams, but there are countless other vtubers to enjoy so no point crying forever about it.

[Anonymous No.]

Nina fills the niche Koopa used to for me. Chan-adjacent sense of humor and taste while still maintaining a good relationship with chat.

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>>16579669
I didn't check her recently, when I watched her she had like 60 to 120 viewers, did she really manage to keep a good chat interaction? It seems she's always above 300 nowadays
I do remember some good jokes but I wouldn't exactly call that chan-adjacent (and by that I don't mean that 4chan humor is just niggerfaggot stuff).
At least she enjoyes Tenacious D so that's nice.

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>>16579757
She's been consistently in the 200-300 range as of late, reads chat fairly consistently which spins off into tangents. And as for her humor, I think it is chan/imageboard flavored, but not necessarily in the surface level /here/ sense. It's hard to describe, but I'd say her sense of humor is very shitpost-y in an endearing way.

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>>16579626
she s unironically my oshi so knowing how things are is a weird feeling. I'm not delduing myself into thinking I'm anything else than a viewer because when she's not shouting out every /here/ chuuba under the sun she genuinely one of the most entertaining streamer. i guess she was right with that quip in her about saying to keep your expectations low

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>>16579871
That's good to hear, not everyone is that dedicated to their oshi trough time and troubles, props to you. I imagine it's not always pleasant to mention her here and see one side spam "fucked a fan!!!"rat; "western whores, all the sames" and the other be overly defensive. I respect people who survived a year of that.

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>>16580233
i know where i am so faggots throwing shit isn't anything new. koopas stream are still enjoyable so I'll stick around until they aren't, then it's back to holos

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>>16579178
Kwapi is still a good gal, but she's a cautionary tale to many vtubers, especially those who make themselves known /here/. As for other /here/ chuubas, Beatani, Kiki, and Pippa also are warnings to others. And I don't mean this as an assault on their characters. Just the nature of this website, its inhabitants, and how easy for things to spiral out of control.

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>>16579852
Nta but same for me. Her promo for CBT was GOLD. This being said, I have space ij my heart for Koopa, but she needs to sort her health out and return to her roots a bit.. otherwise Bat might be a better here tuber.

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>>16580491
You say that like it went terribly for them, but it's not that bad really.
Nadechama and Beatani especially handled it very well.

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>>16580491
Bea is a smart enough gal outside of the persona she uses, Pippa has her fellow talents and management to reign her in, Kiki on the other hand I can't say for certain

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>>16580532
Still enjoyed the hell out of Spacer. It's unfortunate he doesn't stream anymore. No, the Kongou collab doesn't count.

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>>16580532
I actually thought of Bat too, it's a different style but in term of hmm "relaxed" (?) humor I feel the same and she's pretty audience focused, fun gal.

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>>16579178
one thing that has to be said and that is a more recent development, is that she now streams at ungodly hours for many of the people who watched her before, and that is also one of the reasons why there are no threads anymore as of recent.
good summary of her honestly.

[Anonymous No.]

Only vtuber I have zero regrets oshihening

[Anonymous No.]

Still love Koopa

[Anonymous No.]

>>16580759
Damn that's rough, most vtubers avoid that given how it can really kill a core fanbase. But I assume it's because of IRL stuff and she didn't have a lot choice?

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>>16579178
I don't know who is more pathetic
The people in your story, or you for knowing all of this

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>>16580859
I think it is pathetic all around.

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>>16580859
Even if you didn't watch her you'd get all this info from the sheer sperging over the drama spilling elsewhere

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>>16580859
Neither, the more pathetic are ones who post her in /hlgg/!

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>>16580859
It doesn't take much to know all these if you were since the start. The old guard just spread themselves across different threads now instead of staying in the trashcan. The ones who didn't become vtubers anyway.

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>>16580828
yeah, it is IRL stuff but damn the hours are thought at 12 am est.

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>>16580942
Treating vtubing as some sort of social scene is pretty pathetic
There's better ways of making friends than clout chasing with a cartoon avatar

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>>16579178
/here/ chuubas who pander to mental fuck ups is a mental fuck up herself. color me surprised

[Anonymous No.]

>>16580942
The ol' indie chuuba watcher to indie chuuba pipeline. Many such cases.

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>>16580984
Vtubing sidesteps the culture of anonymity cultivated by this ocean of filth. Those with a weaker constitution or design their avatars to be "literally free" cannot help but play social games they missed out on in high school. For example, one of the namedrops above in the wall of text was Bromega, and he's a vtuber now, while Bayes disappeared to the wind after getting crucified for gloating his perceived "esteemed" status.

I don't know when will the day /here/ chuubas finally understand how to navigate. Eira is doing "fine" now, but it took several fucking months of shouting at her to get her shit together and stop engaging. I don't know where Lumi is going, but with the recent scuffle with /pyon/ she sure is playing with fire.

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>>16581196
Lumi is a legit schizo and seems to be friends with a known pedo schizo that sockpuppets and grooms, and just had her other schizo doxxing friend fired by management. She is bad news

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>>16581256
That's your brain on wvt rrats, please keep it contained there

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>>16581337
yeah, wvt shitters are really out of touch

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>>16581337
Watch out for Ziassan, you've been warned

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>>16581196
Lumis base is expanding way past /here/ viewers though at the very least which is a good thing for her and her agency

[Anonymous No.]

I keep hearing shit about /wvt/ what the fuck happens there that I constantly hear about them

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>>16581415
it's a circlejerking cesspit that sits on /trash/, I suggest avoiding every vtuber that associates with that place

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>>16581415
Most of it comes from the /trash/ thread, which at this point is completely different from the /vt/ thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>16581446
It's separate from the /wvt/ on this board, which is actually a good thread for discussing western indies.

[Anonymous No.]

Lumi sending her shills to astroturf a Koopa thread

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>>16581415
pre-/vt/ thread about western vtubers. Schizo central. proceed with caution or stay the fuck away. I still like talking to the old viewers there.

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>>16581337
Not sure I agree about Lumi herself being schizo, but her ex-mod sure was.

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>>16581337
she might not be but zia and sei are both actual schizos and that isn't a rrat

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>>16581591
>>16581566
can't you fuck keep your mental illness within that trash containment thread?
Plus Lumi sacked her mod after that was found out and verified, it's retarded to expect people to read mind, and for a corpo 2 days to verify everything before sacking him is very reasonable,
Fucking hell people here can be so brain damaged

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>>16581660
I didn't blame Lumi for anything at all. Why are you so needlessly defensive?

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>>16581701
It's one of her shills

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>>16580781
>>16580823
>>16580859
>>16581256
>>16581591
>>16581256
>>16581701
>>16581484
Here for your little guys and your work, I don't think that version was posted here before. Now it's tim to pack it up and get back home alright.

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>>16581758
I remember that whiteboard...

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>>16581415
lasciate ogni Speranza Voi ch. Entrate

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>>16581415
it's just literally a thread to discuss all kind of western vtubers (and thus mostly small (<150 viewers) indies since bigger ones have their threads.
It can be useful but it's also FULL of insane schizos and many can't even keep thei retardation there and will spill out in vt like >>16581484 >>16581715 >>16581701 >>16581591
You can learn to ignore them pretty fast, never let them rot your mind and you should be good, some vtubes there are pretty cool (not all, but some)

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>>16581783
Same, though I've never seen that cleaned version before so I'll take it.

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>>16581807
>Conflaguration that affected /pyon/, /clg/, /yah/ and /wvt/
>Exclusively /wvt/ when it didn't even start there
Come on now. The trashcan had nothing to do with it even and they were mostly gawking outsiders

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>>16581701
It was only meant for 16581591 not 16581566, one too many clicks..

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>>16581415
>>16581477
The /wvt/ you see on /vt/ is basically a "nice" version of the threads where most people stick on topic and actually watch vtubers, post new ones and discussion good points.

The "real" /wvt/ is a thread on trash where most of the vtubers themselves (for some reason) hang out. Coincidentally it's one of the most schizo/anti places you'll see on this site. People love to talk drama there, start anti crusades against certain vtubers and in general don't even talk about vtubers anymore. It's fucking awful. Threads used to be good march 2021 and before which is nearly a fucking year ago but have devolved into utter shit since.
The worst part is nobody wants to move because they will get found out and banned for their off-topic shit and still drop the "i can't post porn" excuse despite catbox.

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>>16581939
sei was (is?) defintely an all-thread issue I agree
the rest not so much
he will continue to haunt the boards for a while..

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>>16581976
why do people subject themselves to that

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>>16581758
>>16581783
Wasn't that drawn by picky? I think I recognize that style

[Anonymous No.]

>>16582048
Here's a secret, anon.
women

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>>16582055
It was yes

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>>16582048
It's the sheep mentality.
Everyone is on /trash/ so more people go there. The threads get way more IPs so people stay there instead of moving. Whenever a move to front desk idea gets brought up, the schizos start going against it.
A few vtubers have said they are perma moving to /vt/ only to come crawling back to trash a week later. They can't help themselves, they love drama.

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>>16581976
I don't even talk about vtubers in /wvt/. I just talk about food, talk to other viewers, or link my usual favorites.

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>>16581976
>call someone a tranny
>banned
>call someone a chink
>banned
>random post the doesn't break any rules
>off topic, banned

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>>16581446
If you want to be taken seriously, next time say "every vtuber who regularly associates" instead
Because if you actually went there you'd know hundreds of vtubers have been discussed and some actually good ones passed by
Only the ones who stay there and there only are to be avoided, but people like Koragi, Megbert/Menace, Leaflift, Urara, Lumi, Nini yuuna, Niceeggy and a few others are perfectly fine despite having associated or dog-whistled there

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>>16582225
Lumi is the one propagating TvwasTaken's list of chuubas to avoid, once again another pedo schizo she is aligned with

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>>16582171
By all means stay there, we're not trying to convince you leave.

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>>16581976
Lapis? I didn't think your opinion of it got that low, even if I agree it's not as good as it used to be and a bit of it already started spilling here >16581484 >16581591

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>>16581976
>The "real" /wvt/
The /trash/ thread doesn't deserve to be called that, the /vt/ split is much closer to what the thread was like originally than what the /trash/ thread has become now.

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>>16582306
no one is propagating that list, what the fuck are you on
even going by your logic, some of the "to avoid" names on that list are people she associates/"aligns" with so it makes no sense

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>>16582381
You aren't wrong but it's what most of the people there believe and i guess it's the "original" place where it started. Honestly it's probably best that most of them don't move over to /vt/, the front desk threads are actually pretty chill.

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>>16582471
Both threads are mostly the same people

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>>16582374
On the contrary, this spill-off isn't so bad. It's one of the rare meta-threads that aren't necessarily anyone's "home turf". Don't know if this current discourse will actually lead anywhere, but I hope an actual exchange of information is done here for a more complete understanding.

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>>16582495
it would get rid of rin/shania antics at least

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>>16582495
That may have been true to start with but at this point I don't think it applies anymore

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>>16582516
of course an anyaposter would say that
I agree though, expect from year-old drama which could really stay buried in the trash

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>>16583496
expect for*

[Anonymous No.]

the only worthwhile takeaway from koopas shenanigans is to not meet your heroes, just stay a viewer and don't be a faggot, all of this could've been prevented if anons remained anons or were tactful enough to debut and not act like attention seeking niggers

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>>16582048
Various reasons. Some are complacent and just refuse to leave, some stay out of nostalgia, some hold on to the belief that the thread can change for the better and some are just bad faith actors obsessed with creating drama out of nothing.

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>>16584973
You cant control 50 people, even knowing what you said, theres a constant rotation of people coming in and out from different cultures of interactions and it only takes one faggot to stir shit up. Ive only seen a couple of times where this sort of mutual balance has been achieved here, but the big part of that hinges on the chuba taking control of the leashes and keeping them tight.

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>>16579178
>she couldn't refuse and thus the first collabs where with some 0view malechuubas who like to brag about every female interaction they have like this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmZvAo0b_rQ and a few others after

I was following Koopas pre/debut and i was wondering where did this guy come from all of a sudden. I wasn't watching every stream to the fullest, so thought if i missed some development or what when this popped up. I have no anti-male collab requirements, just seemed out of the blue when her character was supposed to be a chuba reject, just felt too early to brake role-play.

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>>16585836
he literally came from the pit of /trash/

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>>16585870
Thats heartbraking for what could've been.

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>>16585645
You know what makes it even possible to talk about this here? it's not the trashcan and the chuubas, with their own self-interests, don't outnumber the viewers.

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>>16581415
It's just a circlejerking of indies who shit on viewers and will refuse to see complaints even if it sperged all over their faces

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>>16581976
It's so tiresome

[Anonymous No.]

KOOPA LOVE

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>>16582374
Not him he just DM me asking me who that Nemuposter was lol

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>>16589805
yeah, Lapis very much prefers the trashcan

[Anonymous No.]

>"Wow koopa is over I dropped her cant believe she did [insert a bunch of headcannon and warped narrative] "
>Just had a stream that cracked 350 viewers, raidless, exponentially more than any of the vtubers who directly pander to 4chan, only a few days ago
Its genuinely amazing how disconnected from reality this board is all the time. Its like everyone read The Secret and thinks if you envision the world the way you want it, it will just become that way

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>>16589805
Avatarfags were a mistake

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>>16590185
>comparing normal streams to a special event that leeches multiple chuubas
Ogey

[Anonymous No.]

Kinda new to here, what exactly is the /trash/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16590185
>makes one-third of that on normal streams
just putting the full picture out there.

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>>16591788
Who gives a shit about numbers?

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>>16573496
>secret discord
>got found out and a meltdown occured
>sex with viewer
>another meltdown occured
>move to twitch
I don't care after that.

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>>16591989
someone said some numbers I said some other numbers, stop being mad and/or feeling good about numbers they are just numbers, right?

[Anonymous No.]

I think Koopa is cool and her streams are fun

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>>16580491
Pippa wants to be the next guntrider unironically. So yes you can talk about her character.

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>>16590185
You know very well your comment is in bad faith, today was a special event CBT, she never ever get that usually and will get back to her usual numbers after
She used to have 200 viewers back then on Youtube too (https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/34559140/#34560015 https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/34644298/#34661679)) and shte crumbled in viewership, her shift to Twitch increased her popularity a bit but it's really faaar from before she started listening to her groomer "friends" and took many breaks

>>16591989
>Who gives a shit about numbers?
The initial comment saying how people here were disconnected from reality and she was having such huge numbers, so him, or the kind who think the comments here have no basis and that she's doing so well. Because she's not. If she's happy like that it's ok, I won't watch though.

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>>16592262
everything else sucks but moving to Twitch was the right move for many reasons, it's much better in general for indies, have very good tools to network and much better discoverability, but most of all, she already lost most of her audience on YouTube and there was nothing for her there, almost every viewer who was still watching her after all those issues would follow her anywhere at this point. So there was no reasons not to move.

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>>16591989
>>16595573
She was bleeding viewers like crazy on YouTube, got a big boot on Twitch but since she still kept on focused on other vtubers and a few select viewers people kept on losing interest with time, networking is useless if new viewers don't feel welcome and just see a clique mostly made of vtubers sharing inside jokes in the chat and newcomers ignored.

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>>16580554
Rrat: Koopa killed spacer, then fled the country hence the timezone change

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>>16581415
The truth is that every 4chan vtuber is actually shit and only liked because anon wants “one of us”

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>>16579178
For me I think the specific moment that started it off wasn't really the male collabs or anything like that. I think it went downhill after that one thread with the troopa audio clip. The vacaroo postings was one of the things that made koopa feel like there was really good audience engagement, and when a bunch of retards freaked out at that clip she stopped coming to the threads and started treating discord like her threads. I still think if there wasn't that retarded reaction from some anons, or if people didn't make such a big deal out of it, she'd be down a different path. I'll always be thankful she introduced me to Nina, and I still hope she's successful.

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>>16579178
Expected this to be a schizo wall of text but it's pretty accurate and sums up my feelings very well. I'm really happy for Koopa as a person, but completely disengaged with her as a content creator a very long time ago. Her community was already pretty insular only a few months in and it only got worse with time.

I can safely say I would have done the exact same thing in her shoes. The sooner I'd be able to attach myself to actual people who are nice to me rather than faceless rrats on /trash/, the better.

[Anonymous No.]

I still like Koopa

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>>16573496
This >>16579178 post is a really good summary of the shit that's happened although it leaned into rrat territory with
>people close to her kept influencing her and telling her "see everyone hates you there, you're better with us" and she started completely ignoring the threads or any anonymous message in general and only relied on her close "friends" (many just opportunist or groomers) and started doing more and more collabs and ignoring fans more and more to the point her chat could sometimes be literally just vtubers sometimes and her chat is usually almost only vtubers, paypigs or artfags
Though, if all of it really is legit, that's deeply saddening.
As for the threads themselves, it's partly >>16580759 and what summary anon touched but also a bit more than that since those only caused the thread to be slowed, weakened, and decreased in quality. Yes, she streams at weird hours, she gets sick a lot and she gets injured easily because of her weak immune system and Ehlers-Danlos syndrome (EDS), and she takes regular breaks. But what really killed the threads was her switch to a personal discord and going on a month-long vacation which took away a lot of posters and killed the thread's remaining momentum.

On a more optimistic note, she switched to Twitch, got Partner, and she's even working on an updated version of the OG outfit, and there's still a great amount artists and gachiokis still supporting her. So even if it's not a place you don't feel welcome in anymore, please don't worry about her either.
But if you do still want to support her, check out her Twitch https://www.twitch.tv/koopa_ch and her unity thread >>16598775

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>>16599633
i miss when most koopa fanart was her and troopas, now it feels kinda barren

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>>16599633
even if it's a place you don't feel welcome in anymore* guess I'm still tired
>>16599714
It's the consequences of the switch from mainly viewer-centric drawfags and art commissioners to mainly vtuber-centric drawfags and art commissioners and the graduation or spreading out of old drawfags as they've found or switched to other chuubas. But there's still amazing drawfags that do make a good amount of Koopa and Troopa art

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>>16600444
very nice numbers anon. in the end, i feel like she didn't mean for this weird distance to happen but she's just really happy to have friends, maybe a time will come and she'll realize other chuubas won't grow the channel or keep it alive

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>>16601146
I just dont understand, somehow whos so thight with Nina wont learn the tricks from her? You can have both, you dont need to alienate one for the other.

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>>16601146
I really do believe that the future is bright and that she's starting to realize that.

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>>16599633
Yeah it wasn't neutral, I'm too used to a defensive reaction I guess so still exaggerated that feeling. But it's how it felt from the outside.

It's a typical case of, most might not have had such manipulative intentions but in the end people you interact with closely influence you and will paint outsiders as ennemies.
I'm sure from many of them and Koopa it felt more natural and they saw genuine complaints and schizo complaints without a difference after a while.

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>>16601411
Nina is impressive on that in the sense it almost doesn't feel different now with 300-400 viewers compared to back when I watched her first karaoke at like 80 viewers.

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>>16601411
the minds of girls are an enigma, we just gotta wait it out and see what happens, i don't think any anon can convince her at this point to shift things around

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>>16599417
and it's great you do! for the ones who still like it despite everything they probably shouln't open threads outside of /goorls/ ones, since her initial audience was only 4channers and more than 3/4 of them aren't here anymore so it's not good for your mental to open a thread like this, it doesn't mean their feelings are unefounded but you don't have to think about those since it won't change anything anyway.

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>>16599714

[Anonymous No.]

My boyfriend finally finished training my gag reflex to accept his cock in my throat..

He then proceeded to blindfold me and make me suck his cock, I had never been blindfolded before but his dick tasted so much fucking better than it usually did, I could feel every grain of skin, the entire texture of his cockhead, i tasted and felt everything. It felt so wild, I could barely take it.

Then.. he grabbed my hair, and against my will, started fucking my throat. It was a sensation I could never forget, the squishing noises as he thrusts against my tonsils, the feeling of his throbbing hard cock pounding against the back of my throat, the intensity of it all.. until he finally came in my mouth. It was the largest load he ever deposited onto my tongue, pulled me off of his cock, and rubbed it in my face.. after I swallowed the cum, I couldn't stop panting. My mouth was open and tongue sticking out, I couldn't stop kissing it either. That happened just last night, and now I can't get it off my mind. I'm at work and at least 10% of the time I'm daydreaming about it. I can't stop reliving that amazing experience. I don't know what to do.

What should I do troopas? I can't stop thinking about it..

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>>16581196
QRD with what happened with /pyon/?

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>>16606068
Kiki's old identity was found because she wasn't smart and kept old files names. She is underaged and has put people in jail before.

[Anonymous No.]

Koopa and Spacer LOVE
https://files.catbox.moe/bmz5j9.ogg
https://files.catbox.moe/4ya9j1.mp4

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>>16606286
that's just wvt rrats though

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>>16606362
Wanna explain the Streamlabs filename?

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>>16603559
What role do she even have in that gang beside getting more people to join

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>>16606362
That rrat has nothing to do with /wvt/.

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>>16606362
Ironically /wvt/ didn't care about Kiki because the first time she dropped in she shat on Koopa because it was a few days after the "experient" post

[Anonymous No.]

>>16607417
Every gang needs that person who's way too nice to be in a gang

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>>16606068

Summary was posted here https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/44587090/#44587475
I'm not 100% sure about the r9k part, but the rest is absolutely true and more screenshots got posted later by the same guy who was in talk with sei, and some vtubers like seep confirmed the authenticity of those screenshots

At this point only the few people contained in /pyon/ are still in denial, as insane as it sounds they managed to basically gaslight themselves.

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>>16609891
oh yeah, after this was posted she pretended to have a sudden accident and having to the hospital and somehow her "mother" instantly went to the chat to write that
Though she was back home and streaming within a day

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>>16606362
>>16609891
>>16610018
Holy shit ahah how can they still believe in her larp after all this, it's almost fascinating

[Anonymous No.]

I want to titfuck Koopa

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>>16610068
I gave up quickly, I thought it was merciful to make some realize and stop deepening the sunk cost but it's no use and they have a dedicated janny too so w/e, have fun with that blue pill I guess, I hope they don't kill themselves when they realize later though.

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>>16610162
You lack conviction

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>>16606362
anon that's one of the most confirmed "rrat" to have been posted to this board at this poitn, anyone remotely involved with that know, aside from like 20 people confined in /pyon/ burying their head in the ground.

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>>16606362
It's actually true, the leaks were confirmed later, looking at pyon threads nowadays is just... sad.

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>>16610286
They even kept saying stuff like "kiki won!" "schizos lost ahah she owned them" just because she basically said "it's not true" without explaining anything
Human brain can be pretty incredible at avoiding cognitive dissonance

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>>16610415
>>16610286
>>16610250
>>16610167
>>16610068
>>16609891
>>16608925
>>16608125
>>16606618
go back to wvt

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>>16610195
Based Draygon poster

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>>16610457
I don't go there I'm from pcg though... I was happy to see Pippa give advice to kiki though, she mentioned t hat Discord before but never gave specifics.

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>>16610457
Did you forgot in which thread you are right now?
Koopa is part of /wvt/, you go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>16579178
Thanks anon I needed a good reminder why I distanced myself from the whole thing

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>>16579178
Solid summary. I was a day 1 Troopa and frequent chatter/SCer, and the whole Spacer debacle just put me off. No hate for Koopa, who remains a lovely and excellent girl, but she made it clear with that incident that being a great person doesn't necessarily make you a chuuba I, at least, would want to watch. The parasocial aspect was too lacking after that. Glad she's doing well with her friends, though.

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>>16610618
It'ss not even wvt-related drama, it's just people who talked with a leaker before (previously CL mod fired after the fact) who posted some of the internal stuff he leaked and among that there was kiki screenshots.

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>>16610018
This is basically the equivalent of when a dude gets turned down then pretends his mom is texting.

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>>16610018
AHAHAH holy hell that's like a kid trying to lie, I can't beleive they gobbled that up

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>>16610018
well no wonder she's underage that's what a kid would try to say as an excuse

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>>16580554
>Spacer
Sounds familiar

[Anonymous No.]

>>16617310
Spacer Haywire, a.k.a. Koopa's Californian groomer former-Troopa boyfriend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16596552
What’s the graph from?

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>>16627197
Are you fucking illiterate?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16627571
I’m asking which website can generate these forms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16628029
ARE
YOU
FUCKING
ILLITERATE

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>>16628148
I’m asking what the website that spits out the graph data is!

[Anonymous No.]

>>16628719
Alright, buddy. Retard. Do me a solid and just... just fucking look at the graph picture. Look nice and hard. Try to use your reading balls in the front of your head.

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>>16628796
I can't tell. Just tell me the website.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16629031
No.

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>>16628796
The only thing I can see is something about gnomes, but I’ll just google it on Reddit.

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>>16580554
he's actually live right now

[Anonymous No.]

Koopa is fucking based and still streams just on twitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>16606286
Based

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>>16634841
From what I tuned in a couple of times she seemed chill and content, which is great. But I was never captivated by her since debut, i think it’s great that koopa pasta gave her the motivation to pick up vtuber/streaming, even if that pasta potential didn’t materialise into something expected. But she transformed into her own thing so it’s all good.

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Koopa? Never heard of her! Fortuna? My wife!

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>>16635711
Pinko scum deserves the rope.

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>>16627571
>>16628148
Are you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16636322
Cry about it greenie

[Anonymous No.]

>>16629031
>>16628719
I think anon got pissed by the site is literally clearly written out on the top left corner even I could see that and I'm almost diagnosed blind so the point I get gov funds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16596552
CBT will boost her January average but overall it's not looking great yeah... maybe time to jump site again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16573496
she boring

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>>16646237
So? Most of Hololive is boring a fuck too.

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>>16648366
:(

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>>16606286
Oh people still believe that, despite the source being Lumi's pet schizo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16648366
Noooooo you can't hecking say that about the Holorinos!!!!!

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>>16648536
It's actually not, only the private discord screenshots cam from him and it the content was confirmed by a participant after.
The rest is just evidences collected from before.

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>>16648657
Yeah those are easy enough to fake.

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>>16648706
he old streamelement gif was literally named after bunke
she sent a takedown notie to archive nyafuu to delete all messages about bunke (but the messages are still on warosu thankfully)
that sheep girl confirmed the authenticity of the private discord screenshot and pippa did allude to it in the past
in general it would take an insane amount of coincidences and masterplan to fake all of this over months, even multiple references to that discord were found in the archive there weren't noticed back then like https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/43813784/#43823380 predating all of this and indeed being confirmed

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>>16648366
Rent free

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>>16648706
at this point nothing can convince you if you just say every single thing is faked, and it's obvious you're someone from pyon literally only them still somehow try to deny the facts

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>>16648967
He's not wrong, especially Council is so fucking uninteresting

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>>16648934
Not really, he just picked up the other stuff anons faked, there's no master plan here.

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>>16609204
And to fuck Rummy And Coqui

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>>16649070
It can from multiple different sources, one of them being sei, and confirmed by other vtubers in the screenshot
It wasn't just one person trying to push some weird narrative

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>>16648972
I don't watch her, her content doesn't appeal to me, I don't like GFE, it's retarded to me. I doubt pyon even leave their threads, they're weirdly obsessed with her. But I'm familiar with /trash/, I know the lengths they go to.
>>16649175
Yes, that's what I said you retard, he picked up a dead narrative that was abandoned months ago.

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>>16649217
How do you explain the filenames of the gif she uplodaded herself to Stremelment were named after her old name bunke then? She deleted them shortly after but you can find plenty of mention of it in the archive and she tried to justify it on stream saying bunke is a common username and it was a coincidence
Like come on, a coincidence to just happen to name your files after the name of the other australian girl on 4chan who the same interest as you in vet sciene and games and same approach to racist stuff and everything? Come on.

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>>16649317
>She deleted them shortly after
Uh huh, how convenient.

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>>16649392
She literally addressed it on stream and there are countless threads mentioning it including champyons themselves saying it's a coincidence : https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/search/text/bunke%20gif/order/asc/
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/16033186/#16053020

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>>16649449
It really doesn't make any sense to name a new gif of your vtuber persona after an alleged old name that you're trying to distance yourself from.

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>>16649449
that anon is just a tourist trying to make an argument without knowing anything, don't waste your time

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>>16649535
Her old character was already a black rabbit she just kept the gifs she used for her discord

[Anonymous No.]

So how about that turtle vtuber huh?

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>>16649568
That would be convincing if you had proof of that

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>>16649535
it was stupid of her but she made her kiki character after her old own OC so yeah, her gifts had that name

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>>16573496
>Fucks fans
>>16609891
>Fucks mods

Literally why are all these western whore vtubers so trash lmao. You cucks actually watch these hoes?

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>>16650328
Japaneses aren't better honestly
if you know even a bit about the whole NND scene and utaite (many holo came from there too), western "whores"' got nothing on them in term of promiscuity with fans and other content creators

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>>16650328
asian girls are even worse dude while guys are studying like crazy to get a good job and then spend their time working working working, women are very often fucking around chads who give up on a good social status.

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>>16650702
>>16650328
yeah in asia, marriage is more like a contract than something about love
so women marry a guy with a good job and salary who is never home
and cheat with guys with part time jobs often even using the money of the husband to pay the hotel etc. it's not that rare

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>>16579178
>This is why you need a 2view oshi bro!

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>>16650556
Not even close. I can't recall any of the top Holo girls fucking their fans, hell one girl even got graduated for saying she'd fuck a man for a computer. Yeah, some have had boyfriends/husbands, but those ones are pretty well known.

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>>16650702
>>16651104
What is this cope? Men are more likely to cheat in Japan. Even that fucking survey you Japan realists always point to from the fucking hair removal salon (boy I wonder who they're surveying here) it's men nearly double the women who said that yes, they committed adultery.

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>>16651713
Japan isn't Hololive, why do you bring Hololive into the talk?
Cover have strict rules and act like an idol agency, but that guy said western whores, even though Hololive has talents in both Japan and outside, so why make it about Hololive, when it was about west compared to Japan? A bit disingenious.

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>>16580859
There is nothing pathetic about that anon, he is documenting internet history. One day someone will find themselves reading the archive for this shit and gain knowledge

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>>16580985
>12 AM EST
>6 AM CET
Only good for aussies and seanigs.

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fuck it I am going to post some retarded rrat.
if this thing of CBT keeps doing so much better than her normal content, Koopa is going to stop being chuuba and just be the manager for CBT.

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>>16573496
can anyone explain her to me? I remember long ago this "Koopa" character was some anon's apparent dream OC which then got drawn in a goofy MS paint doodle, and now someone took that idea to make her into a vtuber? I hope that original anon is involved somehow or maybe all of that was an attempt to viral market her because she was gonna debut soon?

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>>16656976
Koopa the character an anon dreamed of is not the same. Koopa Fortuna is legally distinct.

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>>16650556
yeah that scene is pretty crazy they're famous for that, some even make up sexual adventures just for entertainment since it's seen positively

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>>16657913
so... pure coincidence?

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>>16661780
I'm saying that the character the anon came up with is different because it isn't Koopa Fortuna. The design is also different because she did take elements of the art anons did inspired by the dream, it isn't 100% the same. The art by anons never had the spirals for instance, the hair was different, dress was gray, etc. And the anon never drew the art himself either. It was anons just using a vague description. The only main thing in common now is that Koopa used the first name and a vague tulpa lore, which turned more into her being a turtle which was never mentioned in the anons dream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16656289
That's one sexy car.

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>>16573496
she good

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>>16599633
>Ehlers-Danlos syndrome (EDS),
I'm sorry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16674968
>There is also weakness of specific tissues that can lead, for example, to major gum and dental disease, eye disease, cardiac valve and aortic root disorders, and life-threatening abdominal organ, uterine, or blood vessel rupture.

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>>16573496
>Starts off as chill vtuber who just plays games and chats about stuff they like.
>Becomes nothing but meme speak and jerking fans.
It's like if Vinny and Joel from Vinesauce became nothing but the memes they talk and don't actually chat about things..
It hurts man,she had so much potential...

[Anonymous No.]

>>16676368
Watch the last Nier VOD and tell me it wasn't like the old days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16674968
Can't believe Koopa will be dead in 25 years

[Anonymous No.]

>>16674968
Thankfully I don't think vascular EDS is the type Koopa has. Still awful to have any type, though.

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>>16675192
>>16674968
Rest In Peace kwappi..