/asp/ - Aspiring Vtuber and Startups

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What is /asp/?

A thread for aspiring vtubers! Whether your goal is to make the journey as an independent streamer or to gain experience and build a portfolio for agency auditions. Let's help each other grow and make it. Indies are welcome to selfpost, but shill responsibly. Share your knowledge, insights, feedback, discuss what has worked and what hasn't worked for you. And always remember to do your research before posting personally identifying information. That includes both in this thread and in your audition applications to agencies.

FAQ:
>Do I need a fully rigged model to be a vtuber?
Nope! You can get started as a simple .png character!

>I want to learn how to rig Live2D models, where do I go?
Brian Tsui (of Iron Vertex), Kira Omori and the official Live2D YouTube channels have many tutorials available.

>Where can I find artists/riggers?
vtuber.gg, ArtStation, DeviantArt, Twitter, Reddit, Skeb.jp, etc.

>I just want to get started, can I buy pre-made models?
Yes! Live2D models can be purchased off nizima.com (Live2D's official marketplace) or booth.pm (general Japanese indie artist website). Be sure to check compatibility with your facial tracking software!

>Where can I learn how to digital market myself?
https://learndigital.withgoogle.com/digitalgarage

>Where can I find some good games to stream?
https://twitchtracker.com/games
https://sullygnome.com/

>Twitch or YouTube?
The general rule of thumb is Twitch if your content is primarily based on livestreaming and YouTube if your content is primarily pre-recorded and edited.

>Do you think there's an audience for X, Y, Z content?
First, ask yourself if you would watch a streamer of your skill and experience. Second, do a check on social media and look to see if other streamers are already creating similar content. Don't limit yourself to vtubers, include traditional real life streamers to scope out a potential audience.

Pastebin Guides and Resources:
General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
OpSec Guide: https://pastebin.com/uALiNZCV
"avoid doing this shit": https://pastebin.com/vbp6qEdt

Google Doc of Assets and Resources: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQHyRDZ3nxlIINfZz_wWCbgQ9gR4OgbTFhyGwq45DseUixkJJKbUmhPjnkWcmh7dOCDdxObAZXv_zti/pubhtml

Stay grounded, stay hopeful.
Start creating, stop tweeting.

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First for death

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Second for stagnation

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Third for rebirth.

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Fourth for the awful things that thrive in the muck

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>>16428788
>model
A 2D paperdoll, usually sliced into distingishable parts like eyes, mouth, hair and anthring else that needs to be anymated.
>rig
A mesh applied to the model along with a set of rules for it to deform and move in accordance to certain triggers like blinking or head tilting.

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Sixth for the wild freaks that run through the deep.
I'm stupid and only just realized my usual coloring method won't work on a Live2D model because it's creating funny artifacts around the outlines of each part

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>>16447850
Can you show your art and what you mean by artifacts? I might be able to help

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>>16449809
its just me being stupid with the magic wand and fill tool, i usually shrink and sharpen so when the color bleeds over the outline (which is what i meant by artifacts) over the outline isnt as noticeable, but i forgot im working with several different line layers here
I'm excited to actually finally start coloring in the model though, this is actually my third attempt at drawing my personal model. I've rigged before but I figured it'd be easier to advertise commissions if I had a good personal model and streamed with it. The other two attempts had setbacks with a poor design on the 1st and terrible time efficiency for the work done on the second, so far I've managed to get further than both previous models in a fifth of the time.

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I identified a few people in my chat who might be gosling... and now I feel like im mentally hyperfixating on them and wondering what they'd think of certain things I do or say, or paying more attention to their karaoke requests.

i shouldnt be so attached to something that could change in a month or two

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Is green hair overdone at this point, or am I just afflicted with Baadr-einhoff?

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>>16454082
>Is green hair overdone
Everything is overdone, do what you want.

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>>16454109
Natural hair colors are underdone.

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>>16454082
the only picture in /wvt/ with a green haired character isnt even a chuuba

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What are some fun features that could be a part of a design/model (optional or not) that could be used situationally for content?

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>>16454418
Gas mask.

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>>16454418
glasses are easy to add to your model and add to your sex appeal ten thousand percent when its late at night

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>>16454418
Propeller beanie and beaglepuss glasses

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>>16454476
Are you my mummy?

“Normal “ masks or ninja masks might be good too. Or concept-dependent full-face masks, think sci-cyberpunk assassins, fox god(deses), etc.
Masks are very versatile.

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>>16454418
Robot ears.

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>>16454732
Hi FBKing

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/asp/ is sleeping

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>>16454732

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>>16454418
https://twitter.com/2wintails/status/1420680135620001792

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>>16457782
im being really stupid at the moment

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>>16458067

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bumpu

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Going back to timeloops, how did you come up with your design?

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I'm so happy. Just got the hardest part of the dress done. Might add some embroidery to make it look less plain. Then gonna add some classy hair accessories and maybe a necklace.

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>>16464074
Every aspect of it is cringe from how I relate the core aesthetic to my life, to the media I stole from for more specific design elements so I will never tell you
Also I just like coats and wizards

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>>16458067
Please tell me about the Pog slider

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>>16464074
I had a design before my current one that was kinda halfassed and shitty, but on top of that didn't represent me well and I realized I only made it that way because I wanted to impress people with a certain style to get viewers even if it didn't resonate with who I was, so I decided to go the opposite route of going full chuuni with a completely new design from the ground up, and managed to gain a lot of confidence in being myself, which I think people noticed and appreciated.

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>>16458067
>not a single chuuni vtuber uses the fish eye lens effect right when they're about to go ape shit on stream
wasted technology really.

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>>16464074
Took a couple of design cues from other drawings of the same concept. Added a bit of my own and from some anime characters I liked as well as close to 18 years of pent up chuunibyou. Let it rest for a bit and then came back to it to rework parts of it if I considered them to be low quality.

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What might be a fun theme for a PNG "model"?
I don't want to do a human (or humanoid) because they're more often than not underwhelming (and because no one would tune into a guy's likeness), and I'm not too sure about doing an animal because it's uncomfortably close to making furries feel like I'm one of them.
So that leaves me with inanimate objects or a face slapped onto some simple shapes to form a vaguely anthropomorphic blob, doesn't it?
I guess if an animal's design is simplistic enough it's closer to the vague blob thing, but I'm not sure.

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>>16465436
you sound like you hate yourself

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>>16465436
the only thing you need is
>can convey human-like emotions and expressions effectively
if you are hyped your character should reflect that and the audience should be able to see you and understand you are hyped. sad, angry all those other emotions. avoid obvious debuff shit.

everything else is carried by your persona and charisma while live.

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>>16465436
time to go the objecthead route like lack-sensei

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What is your design process for creating a mascot (or two) as a companion in your model or put separately?

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>>16465975
I'd say think of the overall theme of your character and then of what makes sense. Mine is gonna be a froggy because my chuuba is a water fairy that lives in a lake.

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>>16465975
I haven't really thought about it but I'm partially inspired by magical girls, so maybe a cat-like thing. I also like Beerus, so maybe a sphinx cat-like thing. That's my design process right there. Maybe I'll give it a gun?`

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>>16465436
>(and because no one would tune into a guy's likeness)
why can't you just stream with a female avatar?

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>>16466814
babiniku is just handicapping yourself.

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>>16466845
getting a fanbase full of zoophiles is handicapping yourself too

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>>16466934
that's not what a handicap is, anon...

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getting a fanbase full of weebs is handicapping yourself

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>>16465436
https://nizima.com/Item/DetailItem/30780
?

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>Who is your favorite VTuber and why?

>Please tell us why you want to join Hololive English.

>In detail, what kind of activities and goals do you want to fulfill as a VTuber?

tell me how to stop overthinking these questions

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Getting used to your own voice and not cringing at it anymore is a nice feeling.

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>>16467724
you miss all the shots you dont take
for specific answers:
>Who is your favorite VTuber and why?
as long as you dont want to fuck them
>Please tell us why you want to join Hololive English.
dont fuck the other talents
>In detail, what kind of activities and goals do you want to fulfill as a VTuber?
dont talk about fucking

but seriously, you should be able to answer these with your gut as long as you dont have some atrocious reasons. think of answers just off the top of your head, put them down, and just see if you can make them sound a little nicer or considerate of your potential future employers. If you cant pretty up your answers, then put them in.

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>>16467724
keep it brief

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how do I not get horny on stream

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>>16469522
/m/ale or /f/emale?

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>>16469570
if I was female do you think I would be asking this question

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>>16469618
considering some indies, yes

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What the fuck is up with reading streams? Just did one, and my throat feels worse after two hours of reading than it would normally after a four hour stream

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>>16469618
>that attitude
>that response
i can already tell you're ngmi

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>>16469618
Just DBM (Don't be male)

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I’m working on some designs, which do you like better? Also looking for suggestions

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>>16471324
you picked two of my top favorite themes and hairstyles so its a hard choice, but i pick candy girl. only thing i'd really suggest is that the dango looks a bit out of place next to everything else

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>>16458067
Potion Seller...

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>>16471469
Thanks for the feedback! I was worried about the dango but I want it to be somewhere

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>>16471324
look like reject Lol fan characters

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>>16469618
>male
ngmi

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I never believed in compressors but its crazy how much better you sound with them

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>>16470038
whats wrong with it? its a pretty funny response desu

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>>16475407
anon no they're going to say you're me

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>>16475407
viewers please leave this thread

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>>16475474
>cant come up with an actual argument
>"muh viewerfags"
every time

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The only bad thing about being a male chubba is that you can't wear cute kimonos or media outfits unless you're a crossdresser chubba or babiniku.

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>>16476902
yukatas are still pretty dope

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>>16476902
meido* outfits

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>>16476902
>The only bad thing about being a male chubba is that you can't wear cute kimonos
Ouro Krono just proved you wrong.

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>>16478180
WOW CUTE.jpg

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>>16476902
Just have tiny shoulders and you can wear whatever you want

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Is there a site or app for practicing singing? Something similar to singingcarrots, where you can see if your singing is on tune with the song. I know singingcarrots has it for practicing scales and checking range, but i don't think it has that function for songs?

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>>16481380
Honestly developing an ear for the music is the most important thing. You will waste a ton of time if you're practicing but can't remember or find the right notes.

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>>16465436
>I don't want to do a human (or humanoid) because they're more often than not underwhelming
And still more popular than objects

>(and because no one would tune into a guy's likeness)
Except they have, and still do

If the only reason you don't want to be a human/humanoid is because they're "underwhelming", you're wrong and should just pick a humanoid.

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>>16485384
I have 10+ years of musical experience but not as a vocalist, so I have an ear for music already but very lacking in singing skill. I can hear when something is off tune, but it would help if there could be something that could help me visualize it

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>>16486042
You're going to say "no" but the answer is either literally sing for years or get taught by somebody else
its exactly like art

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>>16476902
>what are yukatas

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>>16486042
what instrument do you play?

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>>16465436
Just stream without a facecam or any kind of avatar. You'd probably gain bigger numbers this way than with a blob/gnoll/motorcycle model.

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>>16486042
Yeah visualization would be helpful. Only thing I think I could add is that if you're not doing this already, you should make certain you've got a good microphone that you can plug headphones into. Because then you can hear yourself and make adjustments in real time. When I practice I record myself then make mental notes of what to change.

Everyone hates their own voice, but you've got to get over listening to it, to move forward. I don't know if that helps.

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>>16473478
Is that a compliment? Because there's a lot of really good lol designs. There's a reason they get so much art over Dota's for example.

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>>16487483
yes anon
that's why
totally

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>>16486932
Yukata is an unlined kimono made of cotton that is worn in the summer or in bathhouses.

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>>16487985
Anon... your rhetorical questions reps...

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>>16481380
try playing rock band on higher difficulties if you want to practice singing on key i guess?

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>>16471324
Right for sure, left looks like basically every other Vtuber who wears Lolita.

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>>16471324
Mix the two.

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>>16471324
Why is the left one all candy and the right one all drugs

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>>16481380
Practice by recording yourself. Listen back and compare to make sure you're in tune. If you can't tell if you're in tune or not, you'll want to start doing pitch matching exercises, and it can't hurt to do interval training anyways.

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you'll know you're matching the tone when you get an awful feeling vibration in your head

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>>16489832
What? You might have some weird condition or synesthesia or something, anon, that's not normal.

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DaVinci Resolve is the go-to free video editing program but what's the go-to free one for audio? Last I heard Audacity started data collecting and tracking everything on your system and everyone turned against it.

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>>16487277
Piano and violin but i haven't played either in a loooong time. I did all the theory and practical tests and just stopped because i was busy with school

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>>16490508
Reaper is winrar-style free, and very powerful. Kenny Gioia's tutorials on YouTube are an invaluable resource for Reaper. It's definitely got a learning curve to it compared to Audacity, but it can do a lot more.

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>>16486486
No no, that makes sense, obviously there's no shortcut, just wanted to see if there were tools out there to help

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>>16490643
when you improvise on piano, sing a line and then play it. that'll help both your piano and your singing

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>>16487418
Thanks, I'll look into that when I'm setting up

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>>16490696
Reaper for sure. It’s not complicated to do any basic stuff, and the option to Go Hard with audio mixing is there.

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>>16490180
I have nothing of the sort and everyone knows when 2 people sing in harmony there's weird feeling vibrating shit in the air

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>>16490508
>Audacity started data collecting and tracking everything on your system
EXCUSE ME???????????????????????????????????????????

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>>16496442
https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5gwjj/audacity-announced-user-data-collection-so-coders-made-their-own-version

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>>16496404
If there's an awful feeling vibration that's more likely to be dissonance, because literally that's two sounds crossing at places that aren't the peaks and troughs of a waveform. If anything, in tune harmony physically feels good.

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>>16496442
Introduced telemetry to gather """"""""performance data""""""""

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>>16496482
SIIGGGHHHHHH
every time

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>>16490508
if you're used to audacity then you could get DarkAudacity, otherwise you can get reaper yeah

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>streamer
>paying for audio software
oh no no no no no

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>$1200 model and rig
>$400 iphone
>$300 overlay commissions
>$400 in skebs
>can't afford a $60 license
?

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>>16497289
that's a really weird list i get the first one but some people just have iphones as a regular thing and would otherwise probably just use a webcam
i don't think anyone spends triple digits on overlays let alone 300 dollars and skebs aren't something that i'd assume goes on everyone's expenses
still, $60 is cheap and you could also probably really easily pirate it if it mattered that much

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>>16497289
>draw your shit yourself
>use a regular phone and/or droidcam
>use dark audacity
?
You're not seriously spending money on this are you, chuubas?

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dubs and i submit my hololive audition

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>>16467724
>Who is your favorite VTuber and why?
I always wonder with this kind of question, if it's actually a detriment rather than a benefit to list somebody who currently streams for their company.

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>>16500210
roll

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>>16497289
>have shit looking model
>spend that much on equipment
wow you're retarded, enjoy vroids that spent 0 dollars on their models with 100 plus subs than you

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>>16497289
are people really spending that much on a rigged model? I've got my eyes on an artist that seems to make pretty good stuff and I'm not going to be spending more than $500 for a model + rigging

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>>16502071
enjoy your shit model and rigging 2view

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>>16502071
Some people do, model+rigging for something higher quality is typically around this price, minimum but you can still get something good for cheaper. /asp/ies and anyone new really shouldn't be unless they actually know what they're doing which is extremely uncommon.

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>>16502294
It's not like you need a good model (or even a moving model) to do well.

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>>16502294
wild seeing this thread go back and forth from "your model doesn't matter" to "if you don't spend 4 digits on your model its shit"

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>>16502294
having a bad day?

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>>16502434
That's because it's a handful of false flag retards who are trying to fuck with already confused or uninformed /asp/ies because they know they'll listen to any crumb of information.

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>>16502704
wait... are we on 4chan right now?

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>/vt/ is the only place to have actual discussions about vtubers because
>reddit is filled with self shills
>twitter is a hugbox circlejerk
>discords are isolated communities
>but let's also troll /asp/ies and give them bad information that'll fuck up their growth

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>>16502373
I know but still price matters for riggers unless you find a SEAnigger that is good

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>>16503059
Oh well. I guess one could argue that learning to filter out serious replies from trolling on an anonymous imageboard could do you some good. Could thicken your skin and help you to think critically, I guess? I'm kind of reaching here

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>>16502704
WOW you wouldn't expect people to act like niggers on 4chan? Go on Groomercord if you want people acting wholesome

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>16503199
retarded take but what can you expect from a viewer?

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>>16503296
nta but they're not wrong, if you can't filter out and discern what kind of advice you should take in and also let negative comments get to you then you really are ngmi

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>>16503296
It's not even a retard take, they're right. You should be able to think for yourself to some degree. Look outside this thread, see what is/isn't working instead of just believing everything anyone here says. It's pretty easy to counter the stupid shit most false-flaggers say by just looking into the retarded claim yourself, people just lack the ability to do any kind of self-research.

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>>16503059
Except not really because the mods here are shitters but I would still rather be /here/ than on kiwi farms

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Do any of you watch males?

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>>16506845
Nope!

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>>16506845
>expecting me to watch that
HAHAHA, now post your channel fag

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>>16506845
Most people here don't, but there's still an audience for them. People here just like to gosling.

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>>16506857
>>16506881
I'm only asking out of curiosity. Most 4chan posters are male, if popular wisdom is to be believed. ergo, even if more women were on /vt/ than the usual board, it would still be a sausage fest. Therefore, if the only conclusions that can be drawn from moderate to large amounts of activity in the /asp/ threads is that there are a lot of women in here, or there are a lot of young men becoming vtubers.
>>16507054
Thanks for at least being polite!

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>>16507054
>>16507089
The problem is WHICH audience you get as a male is entirely dependent on the kind of streamer you are. Luxiem are a telltale example of this, although obviously at a much larger scale than the typical indie male.

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>>16500210
Do it faggot

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>>16500210
>>16507633
you have to do it now anon.

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>>16506845
yes, the first streams i watched were males, but I was watching twitch before vtubers even existed, before Kizuna Ai. I still watch quite a lot, I watch a few <1000 viewer twitch streamers still and the Stars sometimes, Aruran mainly.

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>>16502373
What are some well-known Vtubers with static models? I have seen podcasts with static models that swap for reactions then swap back via editing, but I don't think that's the same thing.

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>>16508222
png tuber

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>>16508222
>well-known Vtubers with static models?
>I have seen podcasts with static models that swap for reactions then swap back via editing, but I don't think that's the same thing.
Since you're saying this specifically to exclude Little_S, the streamer you're looking for is AdmiralBahroo before he got is Live2D model and just used a static profile picture as an avatar and no webcam.

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>>16508222
i mean a lot of PNGtubers exists and do picturechanges via hotkeys; like >>16508568
mentioned, Little_S is probably one of the most notable examples of one but i think Power Nelson has been doing a good job messing around with expression changing a lot recently as well

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>>16445664
>all those random FaceRig apps
Would be nice to put in the pastebin a rundown of the pros and cons for all of them. Or even put some information like what's currently the most used.

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>>16509575
facerig is dead. just use vts.

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>>16509575
2D: Vtubestudio
3D: Vseeface

That's it. You don't need any other apps.

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>>16502434
>>16502294
>>16497289
The first step become a vtuber is having a good friend that is a decent 2D artist.

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>>16509575
honestly I made the bin a long time ago I'll update it in the morning to just say VTS and VSF; back when I first made it, VTS wasn't on steam yet and I didn't know that much about 3d models either but >>16510115 is correct

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>>16510115
>2D: Vtubestudio
Eww, steam. Also Apple only junk.

This is why we need a list of alternatives.

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>>16511709
post your numbers

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>>16510980
No, please don't. Give alternatives. Sometimes it's best to see what's out there to make up your mind. Not everyone has an iPhone so Vtubestudio is not useful to everyone.

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>>16511709
>>16511806
VTS has webcam tracking. if you're going to shit one something at least know what you're shitting on.

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>>16511850
Requires something homebrew off Github (OpenSeeFace) to work with a camera.

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>>16511709
You have a list of alternative, they just suck and no one uses them. Fairly sure all those alternatives are on Steam anyway. Being this picky you're probably NGMI to begin with so either bite the bullet or struggle with heavily unsupporting chinese software.

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>>16511970
viewerfags please gtfo. you make yourselves so fucking obvious. https://github.com/DenchiSoft/VTubeStudio/wiki/Android-vs.-iPhone-vs.-Webcam

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>>16511806
>Not everyone has an iPhone
VTS works with Webcams, please do the minimal research.

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>>16510115
>>16510980
Ok I will have a look. To be honest I'm just doing this out of curiosity because I bought a cam recently, and I'm really curious to see how hard it is to rig your model or code/script additional things, because keep saying that it's 'too hard'.

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>>16511970
It's supported webcam natively for almost a year now.

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>>16512102
Rigging is only as hard as you make it, it's mostly just tedious. Coding will just depend on what you want it to do.

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>>16511806
>Sometimes it's best to see what's out there to make up your mind.
It really isn't. Use the best tool available to you, it's right in front of your fucking face and it's' the app used by 90% of vtubers, none of which have had any major issues with it.

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>>16511985
Facerig is not steam. Maybe add more options instead of less?

Cute projecting, BTW. Honestly, I am picky because I do not like Steam's DRM. They can literally remove programs from your computer via their DRM and have done so before, sometimes on accident. As to Apple: expensive hardware treadmill with software that updates to nerf your system every 2 years (or less). Also terrible on right to repair which is big problem these days. The hoops and troubles they add to repair your hardware, the lies the "geniuses" at repair shops tell you so you will buy new stuff, and the e-waste it all generates are all reasons I don't like Apple's repair stance. All this is why Steam + Apple = ew.

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>>16512392
you are unfit to be a streamer.

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>>16512439
So you buy into the Apple hype and pay for software you don't even own. That makes you so much better than me. Amazing. Kudos.

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okay I'm not one to encourage gatekeeping but hearing someone say to use facerig in the year 2022 because they're afraid that steam will delete their programs is pettiness on some kind of ascended level

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wait is vtubestudio actually iphone only I thought iphones just had better face tracking for some reason

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>>16512672
nta, but you sound like a bitch

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>>16512672
you're using these as an excuse and telling yourself that you'll start when it's the perfect moment. when you have the perfect software with the perfect hardware and the perfect model art with the perfect commercial licensing agreement. you're looking for the magical set of apps and plugins that don't exist. you will sit here constantly searching for this mystical set of tools that perfectly match every one of your requirements and delude yourself by saying that if it doesn't exist you'll make it yourself eventually.

while you're bitching about perfection other chuubas have already started. you're unfit to be a streamer with your mindset.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16512732
To Clarify: Disliking steam does not mean I am vouching for FaceRig. I was simply mentioning that Facerig was the option on the list that was not Steam before talking about other things. Honestly, if there are more non-steam options out there it would be great to add them. Or maybe alternative download sources if they are on their own site + Steam or something like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16512796
>wait is vtubestudio actually iphone only
no. it works with a webcam. it's just a bunch of retarded viewerfags coming in here with outdated information from earlier 2021 way before webcam support was implemented.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16512392
https://www.animaze.us/

No one said you had to use an iPhone with Vtubestudio, they've supporting webcams for nearly a year at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

No idea why that guy is so much against steam. The only problem I'm having right now is that I haven't found a good yarrr yet, assuming it exists. But that just means I need to look harder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16512997
Forgot my image.

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>>16513035
I can understand being against it on principle. It is basically adware on top of being DRM, after all. I've never heard of Steam forcibly uninstalling stuff from your computer though, and Steam's DRM is a non-issue to me as someone who bought The Orange Box in 2008 and already has a large library of games through the service

[Anonymous No.]

imagine being so obsessed with being a 4chan contrarian that you pretend to not use steam

[Anonymous No.]

>>16512796
like >>16512981 said it works with webcam but note that there are some tracking features that can be added to live2ds that can only be tracked with the iphone's camera due to its face depth recognition I believe; I think cheek puffs were one feature but there's probably others
It doesn't really matter.kuch if you're starting out though; a regular webcam will do everything you need it to do, the iPhone stuff is just for really fancy models

[Anonymous No.]

>>16512837
You are projecting again. I have not said I am seeking perfection. I simply said I take issue with the DRM on Steam and Apple's expense/treadmill. This is why I feel it's important to have options that don't use these things. I am literally talking about options for people to use and the pastebin.

>But the other options suck
This is an opinion. Different people can think different things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16513290
>I simply said I take issue with the DRM on Steam and Apple's expense/treadmill.
go back to your fucking trashcan, you're obviously not looking to be a chuuba.

[Anonymous No.]

I can almost understand the tinfoil hat BS, but being willing to use an inferior, unoptimized, poorly supported

>This is an opinion
It really isn't, this isn't food. VTS is quite literally superior in every way, has more support, more options, and doesn't require a subscription service.

[Anonymous No.]

>Guys I just prefer this, to say Calculator is superior is just an opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16513179
Here's a recent case of Steam deleting a game from someone's computer. This has been a long running issue they don't want people to talk about:
https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/606937-steam-file-verification-deleted-my-game/

It's been happening since at least 2012:
https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/872465-warning-to-all-steam-just-deleted-my-skyrim-folder/

And if the game is delisted you can't get it back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16513658
ok then go find some other face tracking app that meets your retarded checklist of unreasonable bullshit. there are plenty of /asp/ies and /wvt/ natives some of who have streamed for 1 year. if steam decides to take down vts, they'll find an alternative. stop looking for perfection. you can say you're not but your actions clearly say otherwise. you are unwilling to accept even the most minute chance that steam delists vtube studio.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16513637
>>16513326
>Poster count has not gone up
So much samefagging in here. Also paid posters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16513781
I use a 3D model VTS has zero reason to pay me. I just think it's retarded people are this against using something because it's on Steam, and even more retarded for thinking it requires an iPhone.

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>>16513658
That's a shame, but I must say that I've used the file verification feature myself loads of times before and never had this issue. I guess I'm also fortunate enough to have never bought a game that was delisted, but I think that is more of an issue with digital storefronts in general than Steam in particular. Fwiw I think VTS is a quality enough piece of software that it's worth using Steam

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>>16506845
Only NijiJP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16513776
And sometimes Steam forgets you own software, too. So you get to "buy" it twice, but still never own it as the TOS says you buy use rights and not the software. I just feel the platform does not deserve my money. Also a link on Steam forgetting you bought things: https://news.softpedia.com/news/Valve-Should-Quit-Silently-Removing-Games-from-People-s-Steam-Libraries-468523.shtml

I don't need perfection. I just want to own what I buy and not have it randomly vanish one day for no real reason. Or lose access to it if my internet goes down. Or anything else silly like that from Steam. It's why we need more options in the Pastebin, not less.

Speaking of options, anyone have opinions on these face trackers? https://www.goodfirms.co/face-detection-software/

[Anonymous No.]

>>16513781
you figured it out, this is all a complex mindgame to trick you into the web of evil corporatism
As we all know, there's an insane number of vtubers using completely non-proprietary software and/or completely avoiding any sort of DRM in anything they use, be it games, hardware, capture software... Few and far between are the chuubas who actually use mainstream, licensed products, and it's completely insane to suggest that most vtubers 'give in' to the corporate greed
>mfw i saw this thread on the front page of the catalog and saw this post and followed it back to the most retarded drama i've read in a while

[Anonymous No.]

>>16514572
oh my god no one cares.
>retarded link
find one that works with live2d oh wait none of them.
just give up you're not fit to be a streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16514572
>Or lose access to it if my internet goes down
why the fuck would this matter to you if you're trying to be a streamer
this is a streamer thread, dumbfuck
if you lost internet, your first issue would be being unable to stream, right? You aren't trying to hijack the thread about streaming to go on a /v/irgin rant about business practices of vidya distributors, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16514732
The access problem is for stuff that you don't need to be 100% online for, duh. It's a general comment on Steam software, not streaming software in specific.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16514572
>It's why we need more options in the Pastebin
I looked into some alternatives for 2D models just out of curiosity, and they all either are only distributed through Steam, are chinese knockoffs of existing programs (also available only through steam) or are iOS "Vtuber Apps". Just stream as a PNG if you care that much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16514970
you've spent the last hour talking about apple and steam's practices. what does this have to do with being a chuuba? go take this shit to another board, this is for aspiring vtubers not schizos trying to own and control software.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16514970
Still irrelevant. If the crux of your "argument" is having software stop running because of internet issues, then it is completely pointless to discuss in a thread about streaming, which by nature requires constant and consistent internet access.
While I am not telling you not to have this discussion at all about the nature of digital content ownership, the simple fact of the matter is this is irrelevant to a THREAD ABOUT AN ACTIVITY REQUIRING UNBROKEN INTERNET ACCESS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16515001
>I don't like the current options!
Okay, then... Make your own? Or fund one? These are the options you have to work with currently available
>No, the evil corporations that I am ranting about should also make builds of their software completely free of all DRM because I want it!
He offers no solutions, just "I want reality to be other than the way it is".

[Anonymous No.]

i love vtuber :)

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>>16515166
If your image editor, animation software, or other offline work software stops working it makes it hard to get anywhere. And if Steam ever goes down you won't be able to stream, in the case of streaming software. It's why needing a third party to be online and check you are online is not good.

All of this got started simply because I mentioned I don't like Steam or Apple for their policies and behaviors. That apparently was the takeaway, not the repeated mentions that the pastebin needs more than 2 options in general, especially if those options are both on the same platform (Steam).

[Anonymous No.]

>>16515473
Me too :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>16515578
what does this have to do with being a chuuba? i see thousands doing just fine despite all this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16515578
There's no other options, as I said they all require steam or are iOS apps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16515578
Steam works just fine in offline mode in the unlikely event that it goes down. I need to know, do you use Windows? And if not, which distro of Linux are you using

[Anonymous No.]

>>16515628
There are other face tracking softwares out there. Face recognition is basically motion capture, and there are less suites for motion capture, but they are out there. Rigging is animation.There are lots of options out there from Synfig to Adobe. And it's not all steam-only. Some is even open sourced.

Just because it's not marketed to Vtubers doesn't mean it can't work to add a little animated person in the corner.

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>>16515993
what does this have to do with aspiring vtubers?

[Anonymous No.]

You guys prefer live2d or 3d model?

[Anonymous No.]

If this guy talking all of this freedom fighter software bs uses windows I'm going to fill my diaper

[Anonymous No.]

>>16516112
>post literally says that there are many software options available for aspiring vtubers
> does not see how this has anything to do with vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>16516285
I vastly prefer the look of live2d. 3d makes more sense for stuff like vrchat

[Anonymous No.]

>>16516285
Live2D is surprisingly versatile but if I could get a super expensive 3D model made by someone skilled with a fantastic artist to draw the reference, I'd do that instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16516285
I prefer using 3D, but I don't mind either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16465436
male debuff doesn't exist, but a female buff is a thing. your reasoning for not wanting a humanoid model is stupid, if you're thinking like this from the getgo then dont bother in the first place

[Anonymous No.]

>>16516724
I'll sort of agree, but it doesn't matter whether it's a buff/null or null/debuff.
Art, or ASMR make good buffs

[Anonymous No.]

Thoughts on cute alium (male) Chubas?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16522103
rail spike into their head if they ever act horny

[Anonymous No.]

>>16488929
Right looks like every other maid + lolita fashion lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>16466268

>alien
>floating mecha cat ears + cable tail
Maybe a cat-shaped goo/slime, or something akin to a Haro or a Precure fairy.
>>16466710
Do it up nya~

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw no cute incubus vchuuba

[Anonymous No.]

bumpu

[Anonymous No.]

oh nyo we ded

[Anonymous No.]

>>16516297
Just use VRoid and VSeeFace if you care that much, both are available outside Steam, and VSeeFace tracks without an iPhone

[Anonymous No.]

I have a question, how can I receive donations without doxxing myself?
Can't make a business acc in PayPal nor use SE.pay so I was searching for another option

[Anonymous No.]

>>16531100
I was just thinking about this myself. Only thing I can think of is taking something like ko-fi but I don't think that's integrated at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16531100
>can't
Because it's too hard, or because you legally are unable to?
>>16531271
It is, so you can link it all up:
https://help.ko-fi.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018997793-Ko-fi-Stream-Alerts

[Anonymous No.]

>>16531354
Heh this is good. However I'll need to make a new e-mail and figure out a random business name for the business paypal account.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16531523
For your new email, you can generate a new gmail in about five minutes. You need to use your phone number, which sucks, but that's so google can track you.
For the business name... Just use your account name.

[Anonymous No.]

Bumpu

[Anonymous No.]

>>16531354
I would need to have an business license for this, sadly not anyone can make one in my country
Ko-fi doxxes you btw, just tested yesterday and it shows both the names of the person you're donating and donator

[Anonymous No.]

>>16533973
you're out of luck then, there are basically zero other major payment platforms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16534094
fuck

[Anonymous No.]

Speaking of payment methods, the fact crypto isn't more common among the chuuba community baffles me, given how being pseudonymous is a big part of the appeal

[Anonymous No.]

>>16534888
the majority of viewers don't know, don't care or dislike crypto. it's only a thing among the chronically online.

[Anonymous No.]

Vtubing is just virtual kigu except you’re not mute and can move your facial features, change my mind.

[Anonymous No.]

don't care enough about some random anon's headcanon about what vtubing is to give a shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>16534888
most people into vtubing either dont understand or deeply loathe crypto as it is keeping them from getting higher spec PCs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16535354
it's virtual wrestling

[Anonymous No.]

Should you start streaming with something you know really well or something you've never played

[Anonymous No.]

>>16536243
>start streaming
something you know is better since you can practice working on filling dead air without having to try and learn a new game on the fly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16536243
I would say start something can make you talk(react) a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16536304
I don't react to anything I have to make up commentary

[Anonymous No.]

>>16445664
Btw are the pre-made models are already rigged too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16537014
you can check the description for information. most on nizima are rigged since it's a live2d specific marketplace. the booth ones are half and half.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16533973
Best bet then is twitchbits, I'm afraid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16537151
will there ever be a 3d version of Nizima? I make pretty decent vroids but it seems so hard to find anyone who wants commissions

[Anonymous No.]

>>16537766
pretty sure vroid has its own community marketplace somewhere but don't know the url

[Anonymous No.]

>>16537791
dafuq? where?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16537811
This one?
https://hub.vroid.com/en

[Anonymous No.]

>>16538565
vroid hub isn't really a place to sell models

[Anonymous No.]

is doing promotions on social media cringe, i.e. promoted tweets, promoted tiktoks, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

nya

[Anonymous No.]

Glad we've finally moved past the senseless rigging program debates. Just start a new thread to argue about software if it's that important to you

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw had to get a job
>never have enough energy to stream
I'll have 6 months of wages to spend on my vtuber dream, but still, pain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16540810
Just go with simple model first, not need to spending a lot at the start until you confirm that yourself will have enough enthusiasm to keep streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16540961
That's the plan, friend!
Just need to find somebody who can draw my design, and fix my head.

[Anonymous No.]

anyone else here trying to stream on top of working a full time job? I'm finding it kind of time-consuming on top of working 40 hours a week, let's see how long until burnout

[Anonymous No.]

>>16542434
I've been streaming 7 months, on top of a 40hr job (white collar though, so M-F, 9-5). 3 streams a week, for 2.5 hours minimum (unless something goes horribly wrong).
First month was 2 planned a week, but I gorilla semi-frequently, so average 3.5 a week.

It's hard, and I know my quality suffers for it. I don't do all the research on topics I should ahead of time, but it's doable.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZKbcIaRcDk

[Anonymous No.]

Why the fuck am I so retarded, I'm streaming osu recently, right. About two days ago I was streaming was about an hour in and then realized my desktop audio was off so no-one could hear anything. Today, I streamed osu again, except I didn't because I forgot to click the fucking start streaming button. I was so excited to stream today too because I got a new layout for my stream. Luckily I am a zero-view so it's not like anyone but me cares.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16546153
Well, learn from the fuckups and don't get too down, anon. Scuff is to be expected at the start.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16543785
The problem I have with shorts is that they clog up the videos tab. I'd be pushing out a fuckton of shorts but then you have to spend more time sifting through the video list to find the actual high-effort/edited content. Are shorts even that important or should I just ignore them and focus on tiktok for that kind of thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16546862
>videos tab
no one uses these unless you're mentally deficient. 90% of your viewers will be watching videos from the Featured section and you can customize which ones appear.
>Are shorts even that important or should I just ignore them and focus on tiktok for that kind of thing?
they operate on the exact same principle so you might as well put them on youtube and tiktok.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16546862
from what I'm hearing both vtuber and non you want to upload the same shorts content to youtube and tiktok

[Anonymous No.]

>>16546153
I always perform a soundcheck.
Start stream, turn off sub/emote only, start a 90 second ad, then post go-lives in discord, twitter, and anywhere relevant. I'll also check I'm getting sound through during this, either on my desktop and accepting the doubling, or on my phone/laptop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16506845
Only if they're babiniku.

[Anonymous No.]

I didn't know where to put this joke and I didn't want to make an entirely new thread about streamer setups.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16547409
I don't get what Kaiji Part 4 has to do with streaming, did you post the wrong image accidentally?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16547754
You know how some avatars are stacked on top of each other, one right behind the other?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16547973
No?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16547973
>>16547999
I got it, lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>16546965
>no one uses these unless you're mentally deficient. 90% of your viewers will be watching videos from the Featured section and you can customize which ones appear.
I mean... I do? How does that make me mentally deficient? I just want to browse all of a creator's videos and find one I want to watch? If most people just click shit off the shelves on the main tab then I'll believe you but there's no reason to be a dick about it.
>they operate on the exact same principle so you might as well put them on youtube and tiktok.
Oh I know it's the exact same shit, poor phrasing on my part. I just wasn't sure if shorts really do enough on YouTube to even be worth bothering to upload.
>>16546992
Guess I'll just do that then, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K205OFTa0w

[Anonymous No.]

>>16549090
Tsunderia is getting mogged by all the newer orgs despite being one of the first, if anything you can just look at them and learn what not to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16549296
This. Theyre bound to say some dumb shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>16549296
sure, but their manager's model is hot

[Anonymous No.]

>>16547973
Like in holo collabs? I think i get it but kinda convoluted

[Anonymous No.]

>>16542434
i'm almost at a year with about 40 hours streamed a month; approximately 4 streams a week
my hours are a bit more lenient than other jobs since i'm only working from 8-3 and have a bunch of long breaks throughout the year but i haven't had too much trouble doing it
more often than not i stream for at least two hours; since i live in shared space its a bit hard to consistently get to stream longer than that
i don't think there's been a single week where i haven't been able to stream at least twice and i think there's only been two weeks where i haven't been able to stream at least three times
>>16546153
it happens to people i remember caleb said he was speaking to the void for a solid hour before realizing he hadn't gone live on a stream a few months back; having a "starting soon" screen i feel helps with this since you'll be able to see on obs that everything is working fine before you go straight into the stream

[Anonymous No.]

how are you all making these mistake? are you not looking at OBS? are you not monitoring your dashboard? what the fuck are you actually doing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16549970
i mean i haven't personally done it but if you say, accidentally hit "start recording" instead of stop streaming then that button will be still shaded in so someone could mistake it for being live at a quick glance

[Anonymous No.]

>>16551076
>accidentally hit "start recording" instead of stop streaming then that button will be still shaded in so someone could mistake it for being live at a quick glance
what are you doing that makes you tab away from OBS and never look at it for an entire hour? where are you looking at chat? don't you have the chat window open in OBS or on the twitch dashboard? both of those will tell you whether you're live or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16551262
again, i'm just coming up with explanations as to why it would happen so I can only come up with conjecture here
for the anon in the thread, it might be that they just didn't expect to have a chat to talk to? i know some people also don't like having their viewercount active on OBS as a mental thing which would be the other thing to tell you if you're online. the only other thing that tells you you're live is the icon in the bottom right corner which i guess you don't worry about unless you have bad internet
>chat window open in OBS
i know SLOBS has viewer number over the chat but i'm pretty sure regular obs has it as a separate window

[Anonymous No.]

Youtube vs Twitch for streaming?
There seems to be no end to pros and cons for each other. I'm primarily going to be doing gaming streams but will also be doing the random non-game stream here and there like media share, reviews of some sort (maybe fan art if that ever happens), potentially terribly scuffed karaoke, and maybe opening streams (with handcam. )
I don't plan on making money off of streaming or turning it into a full-time job but if it naturally goes to that point where I can monetize then I would.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16552038
>for streaming
if you want to grow while live and streaming then Twitch. youtube is for recorded video content.
>I'm primarily going to be doing gaming streams
these end up being shitty lets plays that do not perform well anymore on youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16552038
very common timeloop but i think most people will argue for twitch unless you plan to go very into prerecorded content
a lot of chuubas will stream on yt and then end up switching to twitch for much bigger numbers
twitch having a much smaller entry for custom emotes and things like channel point redeems for interactivity is also nice
you can also just make a channel for clips and reviews on youtube to have on the side as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>16552038
Unless you are signed: Twitch for livestreaming and YouTube for clips, recorded streams, and marketing yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16552038
Twitch is the go-to site for people who want to watch streams, so much that chuubas who constantly try to Hololarp and stream on Youtube move to Twitch and see instant success. Even more successful indies like Randon who stream on Youtube acknowledge Twitch is better.

If you want to be a livestreamer, stream on Twitch. If you want to solely make video content or game commentary, then don't even stream on Youtube just record your gameplay and edit it down. As a Twitch streamer you still need Youtube content, but there's a reason a majority of streamers pick Twitch, and that reason is because it's where a majority of the streaming audience goes to watch streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16552323
Saddest thing about Randon is that despite all his advocating for youtube he went from one of the best performing males to stagnating now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16552974
Stagnating isn't bad as long as you're stagnating at good numbers. Growth isn't linear and he's still doing good comparatively. He's also acknowledged that Twitch is so much better he just doesn't care for whatever reason. Sunken cost, stubbornness, or whatever. I don't think he's ignorant or dumb, just stubborn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16553146
He's just holding out for youtube algorithm favouring him one day by making his videos viral or youtube adding in all those twitch features they promised. However I think it's a fool's errand and he's being extremely stubborn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16445664
Hey /asp/. I'm thinking of applying to HolostarsEN but I have little to no online presence. Any tips on how to improve my chances of being picked?

[Anonymous No.]

You somehow apply to and get accepted to both NijiEN Male Gen 2, and HolostarsEN (for the purposes of this exercise, it's a thing), and at the same time. You can only pick one, obviously. Which would you choose? >Pros/Cons I can see for each
>>Niji
>+ More likely to actually interact with the females
>+ There's already a NijiEN male gen, so even if you never get to play with the girls, you have other dudes you can collab with
>+ Less corpo control overall
>+/- Considerably smaller, but less dramatic, fanbase
>>Holo
>+ Guaranteed bigger springboard in terms of numbers, viewership, etc.
>- Quite unlikely you'll interact with the females, if you do it will be one or two sacrificed to the unity cause and the rest will remain untainted by your testosterone
>- Unicorns will fucking despise you and consistently harass you more than they ever would if you were a Niji due to the larger exposure
I honestly wonder if I wouldn't unironically prefer a Niji billet. The amount of holobrony anti hatred I'd get just doesn't seem like it would be worth it and I AM a holobrony

[Anonymous No.]

>>16553612
samefag
and yes i typed out this LARP fanfic with the knowledge I will never be either
just wanted to present a hypothetical i guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>16553535
Create content and get an online presence. The odds of anyone being accepted solely on their application alone are as close to zero as they can get.

[Anonymous No.]

if you refer to women as the noun "females" you will never make it as a streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16552038
Dual platform streaming is better if you can afford it

[Anonymous No.]

>>16553894
Depends on the context. "Woman doctor" just sounds weird. "Female doctor" doesn't sound as weird.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16554047
that's using "female" as an adjective to describe a doctor, ESLchama...

[Anonymous No.]

>>16553925
it's also against the TOS for both sites
>>16553612
I'd probably go Holo, interacting with Holo-women would still be difficult if I were in Niji and Niji-women less so, but on top of that I get to have Shien as my senpai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16554192
I feel like an ESL would know that, English is my first language which means I don't need to know any of the rules, I just need to speak it so it sounds right even if it's grammatically wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

Edited and reposted for the word choice cop*:
You somehow apply to and get accepted to both NijiEN Brodudeman Gen 2, and HolostarsEN (for the purposes of this exercise, it's a thing), and at the same time. You can only pick one, obviously. Which would you choose? >Pros/Cons I can see for each
>>Niji
>+ More likely to actually interact with the whores
>+ There's already a NijiEN dudeguy gen, so even if you never get to play with the girls, you have other chads you can collab with
>+ Less corpo control overall
>+/- Considerably smaller, but less dramatic, fanbase
>>Holo
>+ Guaranteed bigger springboard in terms of numbers, viewership, etc.
>- Quite unlikely you'll interact with the bitches, if you do it will be one or two sacrificed to the unity cause and the rest will remain untainted by your testosterone
>- Unicorns will fucking despise you and consistently harass you more than they ever would if you were a Niji due to the larger exposure
I honestly wonder if I wouldn't unironically prefer a Niji billet

[Anonymous No.]

>>16554263
>it's also against the TOS for both sites
Except it isn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16554382
Sounds like you mean streaming on one at a time alternatingly rather than both at the literal same time, but there's no real benefit to that compared to streaming solely on twitch and uploading on Youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16554339
en gee em aye

[Anonymous No.]

>>16554047
Female doctor definitely sounds weirder because we humans generally like to call the males and females of our species men and women. You could just say "doctor." If you continue to talk about the doctor you're bound to say she or her at some point

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>>16554601
Dual Platform is only against TOS if you're affiliate or higher on Twitch, and if you're Partner (or higher?) on Youtube.

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>>16554874
you become an affiliate by doing the bare minimum of not being a fucking shit streamer though
if you're dual platform streaming long-term then you're literally a ngmi

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>>16554943
Kabhaal wasn't NGMI

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>>16555045
>Last YT livestream is 6 months ago
sounds like he stopped dual streaming to me

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>>16553821
What kind of content should I make?

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>>16555243
what are you good at?

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>>16555141
Of course he stopped, you aren't meant to dualstream forever. It's just another avenue for people to watch you. He didn't even take the Affiliate deal until he was at 30+ viewers.

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>>16555243
Not them, but what do you enjoy doing that you think other people would enjoy watching? Do whatever that is.

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>>16555243
Make whatever you think you can do well. No one can tell you what type of content to make, you have to decide that for yourself.

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>>16553612
Holo easy. Just I could gatekeep come faggot that doesn't respect the brands or culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16555286
>>16555349
>>16555371
I don't know what I could do.
I guess I'm good at programming (Just got a Major in CS) and I like mathematics. I like vidya, too. Anime and metal music as well. Any ideas?

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where is twitch partner mysterychuuba to shit on this poster for not knowing everything about how to make good content yet?

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>>16557829
No one wants to watch programming or math. If you don't really have any particular talents you just have to hope you're entertaining enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i9gkprYekI

Take this video into consideration. In all honesty if you're really into (and good at) programming you're better off selling those services to streamers and maybe streaming that to see if you can get some residual viewers, it's worked for others but other than that I really can't think of anything suited to your skills.

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>>16557829
I imagine Cover is looking for skilled programmers to fix their fucking shit software but I don't think that translates to becoming an entertainer

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>>16557979
>Not having a thoroughly-quantified list of the precise qualities you need to have to Make It
NGMI

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>>16557979
>>16558067

That's me, I'm glad I'm still living extremely rent free in your head even after all these weeks and despite my advice being some of the most useful. I do enjoy how you just make up completely fake scenarios that didn't happen though, do I upset you that much just because I tell people to do some form of research of their own? Is that REALLY that bad of advice?

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>>16557829
You're gonna have to consult yourself on this, honestly. Be honest with yourself. What can you do that will be entertaining? Liking things is well and good, but you need to be able to stream them in a way that people will want to watch.
>>16557979
Don't take this the wrong way but at this point you are nearly as bad as they are. You have a crush on them

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>>16558137
Imagine the sex