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16241421 No.16241421 [Reply] [Original]

>I hate hololive because it's popular

>> No.16241719

I hate Aqua because she lost and never recovered after that

>> No.16241761

>>16241421
I hate OP because he's a faggot

>> No.16242204

I hate Aqua because she's a dumb skank.

>> No.16242234

based

>> No.16242348

I hate hololive because the fanbase is toxic as fuck

>> No.16242382

>I love hololive because it's popular

>> No.16242420

>>16241421
I hate stagnation and those who enable it. As an otaku, I demand the release of dopamine. If dopamine fails to release despite popular thing being popular, that tells me popular thing is shit and will never get any better because it's being kept afloat by tasteless rubes.

>> No.16242422

>>16242348
Extremely based

I actually like the talents but the fanbase is absolutely rancid. I block holofags I see on twitter because they're 9/10 being dumb as fuck

>> No.16242450
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>>16242422
>twitter

>> No.16242451

>>16242382
I love Hololive because all the girls are cute and endearing.

>> No.16242473

>>16242450
problem?

>> No.16242512

>>16242348
>4chan anon calling people toxic

>> No.16242594

>>16242512
They're toxic in the same sense as zombies. All they do is ToT and, because they're perfectly content, they resent any sort of change.l to the status quo of COVER LOVE. If they weren't so numerous then it wouldn't be an issue. But when an entire fanbase is content enough to ignore glaring problems, that's when being around that fanbase is draining for anyone who's not enthralled.

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>>16242348
are you lost?

>> No.16242636

>>16242512
2 full-time numberfagging threads just to obsess over hololive numbers. No other fanbase on 4chan has that. Not to mention the various websites that hololive fans established to track numbers and donations.

Whenever hololive fans show up in your thread, it becomes a stew of numberfagging, tribalfagging, and baitposting. And if you make a non-hololive thread, you are often flooded with holofags saying that this vtuber is irrelevant and unworthy simply because they aren't in hololive.

>> No.16242661

I hate hololive exactly because it is popular. Said popularity therefore making vtubing automatically equate with idolshit and parasocialfaggotry.

Hence why I also agree with >>16242422 and >>16242348 , too many vtubing fans automatically try to apply hololive standards to indies and other corpos that don’t intend to follow the holo formula.

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16242674

>complaining about Hololive
>on a board that only exist because of Hololive

>> No.16242681

>>16242594
Found the homolover

>> No.16242780

>>16242681
Get fucked. Homostars EN is a mistake.

I'm talking about progression in assets, bells and whistles, production values and all that. If neither the chubas nor the company is progressing then it seems like a dead end and isn't worth following. What I seek is ambition and creativity, not complacency and grifting.

>> No.16242790

>>16242422
I hope you manage to quit using twitter someday buddy. It sucks over there unless you have something to promote

>> No.16242795

>>16242636
This

Niji threads are regularly derailed whenever it's holo dead hours, Especially when Myth isn't streaming.Hololive fans are ruining there reputation all across the board but act retarded when people mention their autism.

>> No.16242808

>>16242636
>Fanbase in 4chan
>>16242512(me)
Proved my point for me

>> No.16242820

>>16242348
>Toxic
Redditbro...

>> No.16242825

>>16242594
>Cove love
Who the fuck says this? Everyone shits on Cover, especially the EN fans.

>> No.16242850

>>16242348
>t*xic
Found the fucking tourist
Go back little bitch
Can't handle the heat, stay in your twitter bubble and never leave, sorry there's no little block button

>> No.16242851

>>16242790
I'm sorry you're unable to curate a feed of porn and good friends/mutuals so you trick yourself into isolation and glowie forum boards.

>> No.16242921
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16242921

>"I HATE HOLOLIVE WAHHH WAHHH WAHH I HATE THEIR FANS WAHH WAHH WAHH"
>says local contrarian or twitter nigger who's too cool for r/hololive on the board created because of Hololive's COVID popularity

The lack of self awareness of tourists is embarrassing. Go back to thinking this website is just 2007 /b/, it's healthier that way

>> No.16242957

>>16242921
It wasn't creative because of hololive's popularity, it was created because they were so toxic they were ruining the /jp/ board. Bronies have their own board too

>> No.16242980

>>16242795
Not the heckin boardarino's reputation.

>> No.16242987

>>16242957
Wow thanks for proving my point newfag.
Also
>toxic
You don't belong here tranny, go back to your discord

>> No.16243018

Actually, I think Hololive has one of the best fanbases. I mean, just look at what the rest are like.

>> No.16243028

>>16242957
You're literally ESL.

>> No.16243050

>>16242987
toxic as in annoying not toxic as in saying nigger every other sentence.
Holofags are annoying on every platform

>> No.16243073
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16243073

i love this smear campaign of corpo chuubas meanwhile every other day a new western indie is outted for being a sexual predator or pedophile
This is a good case of retards do in fact need a leash around their neck from someone above them

>> No.16243082

>>16242851
>twitternigger is a coombrained porn addict

>> No.16243139

>>16243050
What annoys you? The fact they're having fun? Or is your contrarian brain just firing on all cylinders because something is popular? You can't take the moral high ground on something by just proclaiming it personally annoys you, that's not how life works, that's the logic of someone who's literally a 5 year old girl

>> No.16243151

>>16243082
there is literally a porn thread going on because everyone was sick of holofags tribalfaggotry

>> No.16243200

>>16243139
why you doxxing him, anon. thats not cool.

>> No.16243223

>>16241421
Same

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>Hated in /jp/
>Hated in /v/
>Even hated in their own containment board
>Everyone else must be wrong

>> No.16243331

>>16243240
That's a low bar. If you can get every board to admit it's hated, then you might have a point.

>> No.16243355

>>16243240
>hated in /jp/
oh no what will i do with the opinion of 5 touhou retards clinging to life
>hated in /v/
this whole website hates /v/
>own containment board
oh no what will i do with the opinion of catalogue niggers on my own home turf

>> No.16243377

>>16243240
>thinking getting hated in 4chan (the schizo board) means anything

>> No.16243378

>>16243331
>is the only current fanbasr that's almost as hated as bronies
>moves goalpost

>> No.16243405

>>16243378
you're not good at trolling as you think you are ESL

>> No.16243438

>>16243378
>>16243240
Hey dude where's my (you) for >>16243139
You clearly got blown the fuck out, little girl, don't ignore me little ESL

>> No.16243451

>>16243378
this anon so mad, his hands shaking as he typed.
kek

>> No.16243484

>>16242348
>toxic
zoomer reddit bro...

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>>16242422
>twitter
Well there's your problem, you stupid fuck.

>> No.16243512

>>16243405
not everything you see is trolling, most non holo fans hate you guys

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>>16243512
yeah yeah that's really cool Muhammed

>> No.16243568

>>16243331
>That's a low bar.
And the Holo fanbase is well below it making clearing that bar look like an Olympic feat.
>>16243355
Yeah, and you're literally lower than all of that.
>>16243377
When your threads are often removed through moderation, then yes it does mean something.

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>>16243568
Yeah, because everyone knows how based, dope, and superlit the jannies are.

>> No.16243612

>>16243568
I can smell the tourist on you, you're not welcome here just as much as the retards who post vtuber shit in /v/ aren't either

>> No.16243676

>>16242825
r/hololive loves Cover

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16243702

>Local tourist or /qa/ falseflagging retard comes to the board in the catalogue to bitch and whine
>Thinking anyone gives two fucks about their bitching or even uses the catalogue when the board is 80% generals anyways
>Too scared to even go into said generals because that's where the jannies go because they're too lazy to lift their lard arms to reset their router

>> No.16243727

>>16243604
I've seen enough Holo threads in which it's obvious that they are using /pol/ tactics for making threads. The only problem is that the /pol/ threads aren't punished as heavy handedly as the Holo ones.
>>16243612
You're probably the tourist coming after /new/s second nuke.

>> No.16243749

>>16243727
i've never visited /pol/ or /news/ or /stormfront/ in the long tenure i've used this shithole that's probably older than you
so kindly kill yourself back to your containment shithole

>> No.16243789

>>16243676
Only outs you as someone who visits that place.

>> No.16243797

>>16243028
This is literally not a point

>> No.16243831

>>16243797
it is actually because it is proven time and time again most of the "i hate hololive" posters are SEAniggers as outted by the fact one retard tried to falseflag and ended up posting his shit on /int/ and lo and behold he was a Flip.

>> No.16243896

>>16242422
Oh hey, exact same way I feel about cocksucking nijiniggers, but I don't go whine about it on a 4chan thread like a little bitch.

>> No.16243915

>>16243749
For someone that has supposedly been on 4chan for a long time, you seem to not understand how it works.

>> No.16243928

>>16241421
I don't hate Hololive, though I don't particularly like them either (anymore). Disregarding the points about their fanbase, it's just that the company's too fucking big, and Youtube's algorithm is a positive feedback loop, pushing them to grow ever bigger despite their content being quite stagnant and run-of-the-mill. This creates a very lop-sided, brand-loyal industry where a lot of worthy talent is mechanically denied visibility and deserved success just because they're under the "wrong" branding.

Ideally I'd want Hololive's popularity to take a hit, Nijisanji to some extent too (especially in Japan). I don't want anyone gone for good, I'd just like the bigger corpos to be cut down so the numerous smaller acts would stand a better chance at finding their footing, and the scene could breathe a little. It's really the weirdest thing to me how normal livestreaming is dominated by indies, but the default for vtubing became corpo worship in just a couple short years. I say all this as someone who has watched both holos and nijis a good deal.

>> No.16243947

>>16243915
how i've spent my time on this shithole is my business, i don't go around thinking everything is one big psyop or whatever nonsense brainrot you've got going on in there from being someone who has admitted they use /pol/

>> No.16243951

>>16243073
It's just that nobody here gives a shit about western indies, anon

>> No.16243996

>>16243951
for good reason though, they are like said, sexual deviants trying to use it as a medium to creep on people, or retards trying to make a quick buck thinking they "got in on time" when vtubing was admittedly too big even in 2019

>> No.16244003

>>16243928
how dare you be reasonable in 4chan

>> No.16244047

>>16243947
Where did I type that I used /pol/? You don't need to go to /pol/ in order to recognize /pol/ threads on another board. Now stop making up schizo narratives in your mind.

>> No.16244082

>>16244047
>Now stop making up schizo narratives in your mind.
>You don't need to go to /pol/ in order to recognize /pol/ threads on another board.

if you think you have a point make sure you dont contradict yourself

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>> No.16244212

>>16243928
Vtubing in it of its self came out of corporate ideas, Kizuna Ai and the four kings were all corporate products ala .LIVE, upd8, VIC, and then along came Nijisanji and Hololive and lesser extent 774 and other idol agencies

I know there's this weird yearning for some sort of organic feeling to vtubing but, it literally has always been this way

>> No.16244248

>>16242348
>hating something because of the fanbase
Rent fucking free, loser. People like you used to get shamed off the internet.

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Reminder that holobronies have their own containment boards on futaba and 5ch because nobody can coexist with them. I wish it was the same here.

>> No.16244315

>>16244293
/holo/ is what this board should've been called in the first place discordnigger

>> No.16244375

>>16244315
Go ask the mods to make it then. I would be more than happy to see you move there instead of staying on the VIRTUAL YOUTUBERS board which has the same name as the one on futaba.

>> No.16244403

>>16241421
Who are you quoting?

>> No.16244426

>>16244375
>Board was created mainly to contain hololive's popularity
>"How about YOU GUYS LEAVE"
This is our house retard, you're the lucky guest, you can always go back to /jp/ with the touhou schizos and the last remnants of /vyt/

>> No.16244501

>>16244426
There is more than just holobronies on the board now and you have proven that you cannot coexist with other fanbases just as you did on the aforementioned sites. Clearly, the problem could be solved if you actually got a dedicated board for you.

>> No.16244525

>>16244212
Fair, and I do realize it's just a lot of wishful thinking on my part. I feel like it'd be better if it really was more organic and smaller scale. Even /vt/ would be healthier as a result. Hololive just plain doesn't do anything that warrants their dominant status in the industry right now. We don't see their success reflected in the quality of their 3D events, variety of content etc. If they were a quarter of their current size, they'd be just as enjoyable as now, but we'd also have space for three equally large agencies (or more smaller ones) in the vacuum they left behind.

>> No.16244579

>>16244501
Or this board exists just fine for Hololive and you can seethe eternally about your 2view general not taking off
NijiEN fags raid the catalogue just as much if not more than Holo falseflaggers but I guess you were never arguing in good faith to begin with since you love to remind people on the catalogue about "holobronies" as of today

>>/vt/?task=search2&ghost=&search_text=&search_subject=&search_username=&search_tripcode=&search_email=&search_filename=the+holobrony+cycle.png&search_datefrom=&search_dateto=&search_op=all&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=new&search_capcode=all&search_res=post

>> No.16244586

>>16244293
>>16244375
>>16244501
Go back to trash.

>> No.16244628
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16244628

Why does VTubing attract so much drama and shitflinging anyway? Or is this just a common 4chan thing? I don't browse other boards pls andastand

>> No.16244714

>>16244628
>admitting to being a tourist
Falseflag?

>> No.16244755

>>16244579
>holobronies make 90 threads shitting on NijiEN, Vshojo, indies, etc
>a few people make threads shitting on hololive as retaliation
>we dindu nuffin, it was da nijis/vshojo/2views

>> No.16244757

Here's something that confuses me.
Anons talk about haters being significantly from SEA.
I spend little time on this schizo board, so I'll consider it a possibility. I can't really judge whether that's true or not.
Wouldn't SEA consider Hololive as a tangential friend out of spite against China?
Or just Coco and Haachama, if not the company.

>> No.16244759

Hating something because it is popular is dumb.
But it is still miles better than liking something because it is popular.

>> No.16244776

>>16244755
I accept your concession

>> No.16244813

>>16242594
You sound like you have pronouns in your bio.
I think Hololive really doesn't need the kind of change you envision.

>> No.16244819

>>16244714
I admitted that I visit this board and this board only. Your reading comprehension reps...

>> No.16244822

>>16244757
They don't care they're just mentally ill retards who gained access to this place because Hiroshima is a greedy cunt who changed the domain. That's where all this dumb faggotry began, the stupid tax evading Jap wanting to run ads on this shithole.
So what happens? 4chan a website mostly black listed in third world shitholes is now split into two, the newer one, unknown to said blacklists is now unscaved and you now have places like Indonesia able to reach here without a proxy.
This is how we got here today.

>> No.16244823

>this shitty pngtuber with a USB blue yeti and a frame rate of 10fps who is silent 90% of the time is better than professionals because they say hello to me

>> No.16244900

>>16244823
>hololive
>>>>>>professionals

>> No.16244943

>>16244823
based

>> No.16245037
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>>16244823
>shitty pngtuber with a USB blue yeti and a frame rate of 10fps who is silent 90% of the time is better than professionals because they say hello to me
Yeah, unironically. What s the point of a vtuber if they're above it all and beyond interactions?

The chubas have become arrogant. The numbers are a positive feedback loop causing perpetual stagnation. Western indies are greedy opportunists. The entire western vtubing scene is a dumpster fire. And if we're being honest, no other vtubing scene is any better.

Maybe it's time to admit that the vtubing experiment failed.

>> No.16246480

>>16241719
>>16242204
rentfree
keep seething zhang
she will never care about your country or your people

>> No.16246525

>>16243928
whats wrong with being part of a corpo? i dont watch holo because they are corpo but because they are more entertaining than indies

>> No.16246854

I don't hate Hololive (except half of EN). I hate the fans.

>> No.16247127

>>16246525
Nothing, that's not what I implied. I'm in favour of smaller agencies, as I stated in >>16244525. It's just that Hololive is huge and dominates the (western) industry to a stifling degree, but this dominance isn't reflected in the quality and variety of their talent and content. If the Youtube algorithm prioritized discovery instead of trends, you could potentially achieve a much more vibrant vtuber scene with a better spread of opportunity and fandom. While this would come at the expense of the big corpos' current popularity, a fan of one might not even notice a change in their output.

You'd still have Hololive to be a fan of, nijifans would have Nijisanji, but next to them you'd also have a stronger 774, Prism, Tsunderia, NoriPro, several other agencies capable of rivaling them, more visible indies, a livelier /vt/ etc. That's the (pipe) dream.

>> No.16247325

>>16243928
>not mention Vshojo
I see where you came from, pink cat's goon

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>>16243928
>>16244525
>>16245037
>>16247127
>I want to eliminating the free market and enforcing the based organic Keanu chungus marxist planned economy.
LMAO Thanks for a laugh, faggot.

>> No.16247857

>>16247764
The doomer at >>16245037 wasn't me.

>> No.16248224

>>16247764
All seanigger understand communism is pure shit. Those must came from western commie

>> No.16248339

>>16244628
Just about all streamers attract drama and shitflinging all across the internet newfag-chama

>> No.16248378

It's not holo, it's really holofags

>> No.16248439

>>16243240
Don't forget they're hated by redditfags, twitterfags, twitchfags and 3dpd aswell.

>> No.16248510

>>16248378
They'll seethe and whine all thread but holobronies will never understand why so many people hate them.

>> No.16248552

>>16241421
Same, but it's not the fact of their popularity that I hate, but rather the fact that they are really low quality in entertainment, compared to most other vtuber companies/indies. And the fact that they are the most popular + the fact that yt algorithm is biased towards them, means that if I try to enjoy some vtuber content, Hololive low quality shit will definitely be spammed across all my media.

>> No.16248561

>>16241421
I only hate holoen fags

>> No.16248623

>>16244315
Yet it's not. Hmmm, I wonder why? Maybe because it wan't meant to be a holo board in the first place?

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I like hololive I just falseflag against it to make it seem less popular, I don't want to like popular things

>> No.16248801 [DELETED] 

>>16243928
Too bad because Hololive represents the best of the best vtubers in the world and they're the only ones worth watching.
Nijis are all niggers who nobody cares about, vshojos are all whores with no substance and all indies are dramawhores. Hololive represents an oasis where everyone shows off their love and passion and actually cares for their fans while not acting like the rest of the industry for a good reason which is why they're no.1 and always will be.

>> No.16248830

>>16242512
Its a proven fact if 4chan calls other community more toxic than itself

>> No.16248894

>>16248561
This as well, I feel really bad for the old guard on /jp/ everything about their hobby was subverted by normalfags.

>> No.16249237

>>16242348
Ate ololive fans.
Ate ningersanji fans.
Love chuubas.

>> No.16249366

>>16242348
Shut up faggot

>muh toxic
>im cry words maek me cry im an adult

>> No.16249393

>>16242422
If by toxic you mean mentally retarded then thats fine

If not then you literally have a mental disability, you can literally just watch the content without having to look at retards

As for people who say >le bad things, really just grow up a brain

>> No.16249465

>>16241421
Nah I don't hate them, I just find them too boring and vanilla now. Not a fan of Niji either but between HoloEN and NijiEN I'd rather watch the latter without a doubt.

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>>16241421
people should take a looks at the past

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>>16242348
>>16242422
>>16242795

>> No.16250079

>>16241421
i hate Hololive because my last name is Chang

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>>16242422
>I block
pathetic

>> No.16250999

>>16249655
Based nijikiller Aqua
No wonder nijisis keep shitposting about her

>> No.16254202

>>16241421
>>16242348
based toxic

>> No.16254242

Is it really popular anymore? Numbers have been kinda bad lately

>> No.16254374

>>16242795
Nigger, numbetthreads have a proportional amount of niji to holo fans in how big each fanbase is, how can you be this retarded

>> No.16254721

>>16242348
Nigga youre on 4chan

>> No.16254811

>>16242674
someone tweet this to Kiara

>> No.16254971

https://streamable.com/ld1qej

>> No.16255019

imagine having strong opinions about vtubers lol

>> No.16255025

>>16249671
Why are nijiniggers like this?

>> No.16255215

>>16244628
Even more funny is that many of the hololive and nijis are good friends irl showing that friendship matters while also show that clan wars between the fanbases are completely pointless

>> No.16255520

>>16242348
>All these replies

lmao this really relied up the holobronies.

>> No.16255806

>user was banned for replying to himself 30 fucking times
Get on it jannies

>> No.16256798

>>16247127
I think that the western scene overall would have benefitted from Nijisanji making a move immediately on the western market instead of waiting to see how Hololive performed. If NijiEN debuted just a month or so after Holomyth, the algorithm probably wouldn't be as skewed to hololive as it is now

>> No.16257935

>>16254242
highest viewed vtuber stream today is pekora

>> No.16258128

>>16242348
This! Especially those who attract unicorns!

>> No.16258335

>>16246480
>Everything I don't like is Zhang

>> No.16258449

>>16242348
>holofags replying to bait

Retards

>> No.16258610

>>16241421
reddit tier contrarianism, common for newfags

>> No.16260138
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16260138

>>16241421

>> No.16260460

>>16258449
Please understand, they're used to an /s being at the end. They don't know what bait is.

>> No.16260666

>>16241421
Many such cases
>>16242348
This but with Nijisanji and VOMS.

>> No.16261011

nijiniggers and 2viewfags, you seem to have forgotten that you're guests here. this is our board, and we begrudgingly allow you to reside here.

>> No.16262102

>>16242348
>>16242422
Back to r*ddit.

>> No.16262509

>>16249671
Nijibortions, not even once.

>> No.16263103

>>16254374
Because Nijiniggers love to pretend that Holofags give enough of a fuck to regularly raid their threads. The average Holofag fucks off after his favorite girl stops streaming. Meanwhile Nijiniggers live their entire days on this board complaining about Hololive.

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