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Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:18:48 2022 No.16179341

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:19:33 2022 No.16179372 >>16179261 Wait is that real?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:20:27 2022 No.16179433 https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1480372600761389059?s=20 They are finally moving their asses?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:21:46 2022 No.16179501 >16179433 >Youtube >fixing anything Is somebody gonna tell him?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:21:59 2022 No.16179519 >>16179372 There were 40k in waiting room which became 20k when she went live

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:22:08 2022 No.16179528 >>16179372 Yes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:23:25 2022 No.16179586 >>16179372 nature is beautiful

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:24:03 2022 No.16179629 File: 224 KB, 875x1310, 2022wk1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Last week's superchats

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:24:41 2022 No.16179661 File: 79 KB, 955x472, 16a41a740a629a840.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] they tried to fix it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:25:06 2022 No.16179681 >>16179433 They've been saying they're working on it in the past few days, but we'll see what their 'fix' is when they actually roll it out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:26:06 2022 No.16179728 >>16179433 It's the weekend. Google HQ doesn't open for another 12 hours.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:26:31 2022 No.16179747 >>16179501 Meant for >>16179433

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:27:25 2022 No.16179797

the bot shit stirrer is still here
>posted his bait on hlgg
>was ignored
>replied to himself with the same picture
>immediately after, made a bait thread using the same picture quoting his zero (You) post
can't be more obvious, pretty sad state of the antis

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:28:03 2022 No.16179832 >>16179661 No its a bug in the way youtube anti bot algo works, it happened to that glasses dude in nijien and that small time vtuber who was posted here too

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:28:30 2022 No.16179852 Looking at the general ranking of ikioi. Before the new cull vtubers overall could compete and even mog most twitch streamers. Now even Gura barely can compete with the ethot of the month on twitch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:29:28 2022 No.16179896 >>16179629 January superchats so far >Chloe - $62,024 >Rushia - $52,596 >Matsuri - $45,879 >Towa - $39,252 >Koyori - $39,121 >Iroha - $36,258 >Mori - $31,376

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:31:06 2022 No.16179965 Financially speaking, are groomers better than having thousands of fans supporting you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:32:15 2022 No.16180019 >>16179965 no

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:32:34 2022 No.16180043 >>16179965 No, they are fragile.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:32:56 2022 No.16180061 File: 792 KB, 1237x727, vpokqRV.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Everytime I think I'm getting used to the new normal, Susan fucks me up. What the fuck is this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:33:22 2022 No.16180078 >>16179896 Impressive considering Orca has had it switched off during her readings

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:33:55 2022 No.16180095 >>16179661 Some fag viewbotted her

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:34:21 2022 No.16180114 >>16179896 Koyori that high is surprising. Well glad to see that SC numbers are still consistent.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:35:13 2022 No.16180142 >>16179965 No way groomer is better, all those popular af channels out there have low SC

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:35:24 2022 No.16180158 >>16180061 everyone else looks normal

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:35:44 2022 No.16180170 >>16180095 thats an expensive shitpost

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:36:36 2022 No.16180212 >>16180170 See people want to see their Oshi happy, some people just want to watch the world burn.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:37:15 2022 No.16180232 >>16180061 They seem to be doing something, God only knows what though

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:38:10 2022 No.16180280 >>16180170 >>16180212 It's probably this guy >>16165322

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:38:38 2022 No.16180303

>>16179965
Groomers are bad for long-term growth and sustainability. Like, groomers drive off other potential fans and inhibit future growth, and often have 'garage band syndrome' mindset that means they may actively or subconsciously sabotage you for the sake of 'keeping you small and theirs'.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:38:49 2022 No.16180312 >>16180114 As soon as they opened membership Laplus' SC drastically fell while Koyori's stayed the same, now Koyori is the 3rd SC monster in the gen instead of cunny

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:39:09 2022 No.16180327 >>16180170 must have been an extremely retarded newfag or anti, NO ONE would risk their oshi being pointed at by YT AND admitting doing it on public, like >>16180280 they are doing this on purpose to stir shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:40:03 2022 No.16180372 >>16180212 I don't think that guy likes holos, who in the fuck viewbots a watchalong?

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:40:25 2022 No.16180388

>>16180280
Imagine if Youtube is actually working on a fix and the vtubers who get viewbotted in the meantime stay permanently culled because their fans got their channels flagged with hard evidence. Of course, this is Youtube we are talking about, but that's why I asked you to use your imagination.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:41:09 2022 No.16180439 >>16180372 As I said, some people just want to watch the world burn. It's so stupid too, but it's a good demonstration of YT's anti-bot measures live.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:41:11 2022 No.16180440 >>16180372 fuck holos, he knows this shit will put everyone in YT at the stake, it's either a tourists or a twitch nigger

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:41:47 2022 No.16180466 >>16179433 >They are finally moving their asses? Lolno. At best, they'll call a PR agency

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:41:55 2022 No.16180477 File: 528 KB, 986x602, 1637989872260.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Looking good https://youtu.be/W_H3LIi4X-k poor irys, her original songs number going to get beat once again, by mumei this time

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:42:39 2022 No.16180520 >>16180388 That's probably his endgoal, if he had any.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:42:59 2022 No.16180542 >>16180477 Irys is the prime example of poor advertising, if she was supposed to be a vsinger, she should release covers of the POPULAR songs, originals are not profitable unless you are extremely popular

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:45:30 2022 No.16180667 >>16180477 How did Mumei pull the mv maker for 3rd Fantasia MV? that's costly

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:46:08 2022 No.16180688 You niggers shouldn't be complaining to a PR account, complain instead directly to the people that actually work in YT. (in minecraft of course, pls no ban meidos)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:46:38 2022 No.16180710 >>16180477 Fuck red juice

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:47:20 2022 No.16180737 File: 1.09 MB, 1912x720, accel world vtubers.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Rainbow Disaster kills the clown.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:49:43 2022 No.16180844 >>16180542 Her voice is a big debuff just like watame

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:50:20 2022 No.16180873 >>16180688 Unless you know somebody, bad PR is the best way for their bosses to make the people who work there move. Have you not seen how cancel mobs work?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:51:25 2022 No.16180921 File: 1.59 MB, 2400x2536, fml.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16179261 > had a dream about Towa and Watame getting 40k each on a regular stream > woke up feeling horrible How do I escape from /here/?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:52:02 2022 No.16180967 >>16180921 get a job

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:52:45 2022 No.16180997 File: 53 KB, 500x303, 4chan5.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16180921 You don't. Remember, you are here forever

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:59:40 2022 No.16181278

>>16180542
I feel so bad for her ,yeah she joined hololive so not everything is bad but she is not well promoted at all ,they barely communicate about the release of her song and they gave her weird model and cherry on the cake she's not part of any gen oh and she seem to have no say in the making of her songs....
VSinger was a shitty idea anyways

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:59:48 2022 No.16181282 >>16179965 >groomers Not even once.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:00:26 2022 No.16181309 File: 27 KB, 1503x117, 1637540593596.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How long until the HoloEN meme is dead?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:05:00 2022 No.16181637 >>16181309 >10k Vei really is the new face of vshojo

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:05:03 2022 No.16181643 File: 8 KB, 370x335, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What the fuck happened here? https://holo.poi.cat/stream/1R9tX_Rv2_A

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:05:40 2022 No.16181673

>>16181278
Well the fact that her NY costume is delayed is only good news, since it either means she has some more say about her appearance (probably not a huge fan of her current design) or *huffs copium* she might have a 2.0 upgrade coming up so there's no point in making a costume for an old design.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:06:21 2022 No.16181710 >>16181637 >>16181309 I'm probably coping here for pink cat but she hasn't streamed in Twitch for 5 days now. Hence the decline

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:06:22 2022 No.16181712 >>16180477 >>16180542 She used all her original hype on the EP. I agree about the covers though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:07:17 2022 No.16181768 >>16181637 >>16181710 She's steadily gaining, already up to 11k.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:08:18 2022 No.16181831 Also she started a bit late compared to her normal stream time so that's another debuff.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:09:05 2022 No.16181870 pikamee doing pretty well on twitch. 2400 to 2500 live viewers despite being fairly new there. or at least new to taking it seriously

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:09:53 2022 No.16181923 >>16180542 They should find her permissions to cover Level 5 Judgelight so the algorithm cross-boosts her the same way Calli was partly cross-boosted by her own old stuff.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:10:03 2022 No.16181940 >>16181870 I wonder how Kson will fare when she moves to Twitch? 3K-5K maybe?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:10:28 2022 No.16181966 >>16181870 wasn't she sub 1k on youtube lately

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:11:48 2022 No.16182051 Petra talking about the cull. She’s missing 500-1000 live viewers when she streams

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:11:59 2022 No.16182062 >>16181940 >Speaks Japanese 90% of the time There's no JP audience on Twitch for her to gain.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:12:53 2022 No.16182121 >>16181966 latest yakuza streams struggled like that

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:13:01 2022 No.16182130 >>16182051 Which Petra?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:13:13 2022 No.16182141 >>16182062 She's still fluent in English for EN viewers. Besides, Nene got 2.3K on her watchalong. Who says Kson can't get the same or even higher numbers when she advertises it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:14:31 2022 No.16182216 >>16182051 Damn it's unarchived so we don't have receipts. 500-1000 is basically half her viewership. Irys probably at 10k right now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:14:35 2022 No.16182221 >>16182062 But her old audience won't be unculled. Anons 3k-5k is a safe bet for her twitch streams

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:14:54 2022 No.16182241 >>16182130 There’s an other Petra? Petra Gurin

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:15:56 2022 No.16182299 File: 794 KB, 1944x5064, Vshocuck.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16181309

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:16:06 2022 No.16182311 >>16182062 You retards know Jun, Shaka, Stylishnoob and a bunch of other FPS japs stream on twitch to 15-40k people right? There's definitely Japanese people that use twitch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:18:32 2022 No.16182427 >>16182299 Rent-free

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:19:09 2022 No.16182467

Retard here is building a stream site like twitch that costy? I mean if Yagoo made a stream site for their girls he would keep the audience captive there and eventually get advertisers without the globohomo fucking around and still keep the youtube channels alive by posting clips. Like twitch fags do. Dunno seems like the risk is worth taking. If that doesn't work then move to twitch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:19:32 2022 No.16182494 >>16182141 >>16182221 >>16182311 Bringing in their old audience is not a recipe for success. They'll lose them over time and need to find new viewers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:19:51 2022 No.16182515 Ame did a poll with 790 CCV, and got 1.1k votes within a minute before she closed it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:19:56 2022 No.16182518 775 viewers on ames stream, 1150~ votes in 1 minute

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:20:23 2022 No.16182537 I remember Kronii teasing her OG song during her debut. What became of it? Is it another Council lazy situation all over again?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:20:38 2022 No.16182547 File: 356 KB, 432x444, Ogey18.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16182494 By that logic, Pikamee should be reclining in Twitch. But she isn't, I wonder why.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:21:13 2022 No.16182582 Petra calling out Susan lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:21:21 2022 No.16182592 >>16182241 Dude must be thinking of Patra. Also that's a bold faced lie. Since when did Petra have more than 500 viewers lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:21:21 2022 No.16182593 >>16181643 Bots again?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:21:54 2022 No.16182626 >>16182051 Petra's /here/ isn't she?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:22:20 2022 No.16182650 >>16182592 Right now. 760 viewers but there should be more

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:22:48 2022 No.16182679 >>16182593 I swear some schizos /here/ and jap ones have now started to viewbot their own oishi.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:23:39 2022 No.16182726 >>16182547 Pikamee speaks English. Kson doesn't, even though she can.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:24:02 2022 No.16182752 File: 7 KB, 351x59, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16182515 >>16182518

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:24:21 2022 No.16182766 File: 1.20 MB, 1133x759, chrome_RmM3I3FSQs.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16182582 >7 mins A bit late, but that's still 300% poll participation in 3 mins.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:24:53 2022 No.16182790 File: 49 KB, 536x550, 1605662130197.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16182752

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:25:17 2022 No.16182801 >>16181870 >2400 to 2500 live viewers while playing minesweeper of all things

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:25:28 2022 No.16182810 >>16182766 Apparently had 1,106 votes in 1 minute

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:25:28 2022 No.16182811 >>16182752 I hate Susan.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:25:45 2022 No.16182821 >>16182752 Isn't that the peak because some retard viewbotted her stream? It says 3k peak on holostats for example.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:26:29 2022 No.16182865 >>16182752 when will /#/ extort all the chuubas for the real numbers these past few weeks?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:26:31 2022 No.16182870 >>16182821 You're right. that one retard screwed it for us.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:27:36 2022 No.16182916 >>16182726 I'm sure someone like Kson is smart enough to know that. Although we can't know what her ccv looks like so better to just wait it out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:28:26 2022 No.16182970 File: 329 KB, 1841x819, pika twitch chat 9 or 10 jan minesweeper 4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16182801 >>16181870 pika suffering brings viewers

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:28:37 2022 No.16182980 >>16182870 Kek. Youtube can now use Ame as a scapegoat for their retarded AI. There goes Hal's reports.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:29:23 2022 No.16183014 File: 21 KB, 423x232, 1641791929958.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16182518 >>16182515

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:29:47 2022 No.16183033 >>16182970 That's her normal numbers on Twitch anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:31:49 2022 No.16183170 >>16183033 and I think we can assume that those are lower than her "true" YouTube numbers since twitch isn't her main platform

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:36:45 2022 No.16183406 >>16183033 last pika twitch stream i saw was around 2000

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:39:13 2022 No.16183532 >>16183406 She had 2.5K on Jan 5 and 2.8K on Jan 4. Checks out according to twitchtracker.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:42:49 2022 No.16183675 >My Song nearly at 500k views after 3 days Is Watame finally gonna do it? Does she finally have her GHOST, her Palette, her RIP

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:43:12 2022 No.16183692 >>16183532 okay. good to see pike doing well on twitch

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:44:07 2022 No.16183729 >>16183675 isn't that going to be featured on TV? this could be the hit

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:45:08 2022 No.16183771 >>16182821 >>16182870 >>16182980 Do you really believe a random fag from global can bot 2k viewers? how gullible are you fags really?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:46:54 2022 No.16183836 >>16183771 same graph happened before to a nijien guy a while ago

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:47:21 2022 No.16183851 >>16183771 Where do you think you are?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:47:23 2022 No.16183854 >This thread is good I'm proud of /#/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:48:41 2022 No.16183917 File: 791 KB, 992x558, 1618301353811.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] so, this might be Susan experimenting with the verification algo, the first part

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:49:36 2022 No.16183951 >>16183917 seems like it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:49:48 2022 No.16183963 File: 136 KB, 1587x455, 982157125778316.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] eop viewbotters

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:50:27 2022 No.16183986 >>16182821 >>16182870 >>16183836 >>16182980 Hear me out, the analytic display shows both average and maximum viewers. I don't think Ame would missed that.

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:50:58 2022 No.16184003

>>16183675
Well it's at 428k after 3 days and if we're strictly comparing it to those 3 songs, then it's not on the same level.

However, it is at 72k likes, which is almost double what she's gotten from her last few originals and her tweet of it is at 39.1k likes, which is much much higher than most of Watame's regular tweets.
Generally, its very well received by anyone who has seen it.
https://twitter.com/tsunomakiwatame/status/1479078003171037185

As for if it's her most successful song, I think she already got that with Cloudy Sheep.
That song blew up so fast (in large part thanks to Mori) that I don't think she can have another song match it in speed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:51:26 2022 No.16184026 >>16183986 She sees the exact same thing we see until YouTube updates the analytics later.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:51:43 2022 No.16184037 >>16183963 >a new variant of ccv virus

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:54:09 2022 No.16184133 >>16184026 the 3k she mentioned might not be from the bot since she can also see the average. The displayed average of that stream was around 1k? but she saw 3k. A short burst to 3k should upped the average. That's what I meant to say.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:55:15 2022 No.16184180 >>16184003 Can hololive get another Reflect? Chloe first OG perhaps?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:55:53 2022 No.16184202 >>16184037 >amecron

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:56:03 2022 No.16184212

>>16183771
After my entire home page constantly had 50K CCV bottled NASA and SpaceX streams a few months ago? Hell yeah.
If disposable bots weren't cheap, they wouldn't be constantly running these instant Nigerian prince scams that get shut down over and over.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:56:18 2022 No.16184223 >>16184180 Q.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:58:28 2022 No.16184315 >>16182592 literally most of the times absolute retard. Look at her average in the last months and all are above 1k

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:58:45 2022 No.16184330 >>16184026 my rrat says shes using holostats to check peak views.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:59:12 2022 No.16184353 >>16184212 If botting was viable, cryptoniggers would get millions of viewers on every stream, instead they hack accounts so that should tell you something

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:00:05 2022 No.16184390 >>16184180 Wait for Q, it's fully animated + Gura buff (could do better in Gura's channel but Mori payed for it so it's fair)

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:00:20 2022 No.16184397

>>16184180
There's the chance that Gura and Mori's new song might match it, but otherwise no.
HoloJP's music speed is no match for HoloEN and we probably already saw the biggest premieres for Holosongs - Kiseki Knot and Kanata's Supercell cover right after Coco's graduation.
Both of those songs didn't come close to Reflect.

The closest JP ever got to Reflect was Kuzuha's Vampire, which had a 70k premiere and too many buffs to list (his non-vtuber friends with millions of twitter followers were retweeting it), and it still didn't beat Reflect or King.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:01:24 2022 No.16184440 >>16184133 *shouldn't upped the average

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:01:34 2022 No.16184443 File: 955 KB, 850x850, 1630547691008.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Want my pengy to do good >Know her metrics will never by Hololive tier" Give it to me straight anons, how much of a difference are my akasupas gonna make?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:01:41 2022 No.16184451 >>16184180 Wait for Q, it's fully animated + Gura buff (could do better in Gura's channel but Mori paid for it so it's fair)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:03:36 2022 No.16184531 >>16184443 It just a drop in a bucket if you compare it to the other vtubers but it'll make her happy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:03:44 2022 No.16184536 File: 575 KB, 1536x2048, 20220110_135546.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Okayu Steak Collab

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:03:52 2022 No.16184544 >>16184443 More of a difference than Akasupas to Holo 4views.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:04:05 2022 No.16184555 >>16184443 the bigger the gap, the better they feel about their gachis

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:04:26 2022 No.16184570 >>16184443 Stream on Twitch to get better and more reliable metrics. Tell her to have 3rd party donations so that Twitch doesn't take any of it.

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:04:58 2022 No.16184600

>>16182467
>"Retard here"
Yeah that's about right, and I'm only answering because other people might have the same idea. No one can challenge the major streaming sites at this point; Vimeo is basically dead, and MS pissed away millions trying to get literally anyone to use Mixer. Youtube operates at a loss which means no one can seriously compete with it anytime soon, especially not Cover. Anyways, they're not going to piss away their audiences over Alphabet fuckery which might get fixed in a week or so, but it's not surprising to see more of them streaming on twitch already.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:05:17 2022 No.16184614 So far what i got from the cull >all nijisanji are numberfags >all hololive are numberfags except pekora and gura The past doesn't count for me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:05:27 2022 No.16184622 >>16184536 >Imagine the line if Pekora was the model.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:05:42 2022 No.16184632 Since you guys are talking about songs Mori's orisong Live again might reach reach 10M today if she shill it or announce the achievement, but knowing her she will not and it might hit 10M for the next 2-3 days

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:05:56 2022 No.16184644 File: 896 KB, 1080x2185, IMG_20220110_140522.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16184536(Me)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:06:51 2022 No.16184687 >>16184003 True, but there's just something kino about Watame finding her own legs and finally running with the best of them with a song called My Song instead of perpetually being in the shadow of others in her generation

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:06:58 2022 No.16184695 >>16184644 >McDonald's Kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:09:27 2022 No.16184795 >>16184622 It would be the same.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:09:57 2022 No.16184815 >>16184614 >except pekora and gura

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:10:17 2022 No.16184826 >>16184795 lmao yeah, idk what he was expecting. Sold out is sold out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:10:45 2022 No.16184835 >>16184815 They're already at the very top of the industry, it's unnecessary for them to become numberfags

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:11:52 2022 No.16184869 >>16184826 >>16184795 I was expecting nousakeks to demand more from the restaurant if they sold out. They're just as vile as chumkeks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:12:25 2022 No.16184898 File: 39 KB, 408x445, 1638191563486.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] She can't even top daily SC anymore...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:14:52 2022 No.16185009 >>16184835 >it's unnecessary for them to become numberfags Loserdog mentality

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:15:51 2022 No.16185052 >>16184644 If I am not wrong the Japs originally didn't take the collab well because Ikinari steak is kinda dying, also have a lot of bad rumors. Well good for them that it sold out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:17:03 2022 No.16185100 >16185009 Do you think Bezos worries himself everyday that Amazon might get trumped?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:23:16 2022 No.16185343 >>16185009 Shouldn't it be Nijisanji? Pekora and Gura win golds without events anonchama....

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:23:54 2022 No.16185390 >>16185100 (me) Wrong analogy, meant to say Do you think Bezos worries himself that he'll no longer be the richest man in the world

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:26:03 2022 No.16185474

So what we can take from Ame stream:
The chart
>If viewbot is true, it's use less against Youtube AI and anomalies got curbed real fast
The Ame's 3k
>If she saw the maximum viewers, it's the viewbot and confirmed that the channel owners should see what we see
>if she saw the average viewers, youtube hide CCV more than we thought (800/3000 = 75% loss), 3k spikes couldn't bring the average up that much. but it will contrast with the others that see the verification updated later OR they changed the verification method again?
Is this correct?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:26:33 2022 No.16185487 >>16185009 >Loser dog mentality 草

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:26:45 2022 No.16185496 >>16184869 I never got the nacho fries…

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:29:11 2022 No.16185616 >>16185496 >Not camping out the night to try your oishi's advertised food Couldn't be me.

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:29:13 2022 No.16185620

>>16184614
>>16184835
>Except peko
>very top of the industry
Yeah, top female streamers with avatars.
Not even top streamer in general.
Over 100 million subs short of the top Youtuber.
Over $1 billion short in revenue vs. to the top Hollywood productions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:31:07 2022 No.16185689 >16185620 Nigger we're talking about the vtuber industry obviously.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:32:48 2022 No.16185747 774inc. currently doing a karaoke relay during CCVid season. expect to see number weirdness with them too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:32:52 2022 No.16185750 >>16179896 Rushia is too strong. She didn't even have the new outfit buff that holox got but she smoked most of them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:35:20 2022 No.16185847 >>16185620 Why are you bringing normal streamers in a vtuber topic?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:36:13 2022 No.16185882 File: 70 KB, 1208x282, 19825731767121.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] pink cat

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:41:40 2022 No.16186080 >>16182537 Kronii and Mumei both teased a song at debut, which in retrospect was probably way too soon. Mumei just posted a new PV and it'll be out in a week, Kronii's probably isn't far behind.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:42:52 2022 No.16186135 File: 517 KB, 850x1202, fc85b9122c0673fbd8649b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Good morning /#/ Anything interesting happen in the past 12 hours?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:43:00 2022 No.16186141 >>16184898 So there is such a thing as too stinky

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:43:31 2022 No.16186161 Does anyone think that NijiEN males' next song might have a chance of beating Reflect? SEA women are notorious at streaming and farming for views.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:44:56 2022 No.16186229 >>16186135 Numbers look weird today.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:44:56 2022 No.16186228 >>16186161 No

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:45:04 2022 No.16186237

>>16179896
Rushia may have a 4:1 male:female watcher ratio but I grantee her paypigs are all male. I really want to know if we have a site to track the biggest moneybags so we can see switches of allegiance, some gachi are as hard as a rock but some are known to find a new vtuber to love every few months.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:45:42 2022 No.16186263 https://twitter.com/officialikinari/status/1480370346587205635 Suffering from success

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:46:08 2022 No.16186281 >>16186161 Depends, i don't think the Nijisanji EN music is particularly good apart from some BGM, so Luxiem would need to REALLY pour it out for it to be good enough to mog sharkies song

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:46:33 2022 No.16186297

>>16185882
I remember somebpdy saying something about the Korean vtuber group might drive interest away from Hololive in Korea. Seeing the CCV here, I think it might be true.

Hololive is being cornered in KR, EN and JP markets now. The only place Hololive is still at the top is ID, but that could change if NijiEN males start collabing with ID dudes more.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:46:35 2022 No.16186298 >>16186135 We got a new variant of CCVID: Ameron. Take a look >>16183963

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:47:36 2022 No.16186343 >>16186298 (me) Amecron*

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:48:07 2022 No.16186364 >>16186298 that happened to the nijien guy first retardchama. also it has only happened two times ever

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:48:32 2022 No.16186379 >>16186281 That would be way too easy. I think hiring someone to make a Kpop type of song will be the surefire way to make it incline. I doubt beating Reflect with the support of thousands of SEA women will be that hard.

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:48:54 2022 No.16186402
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>>16186135
The fuckery in the last few hours summarized:
Kanata's graph going haywire
Gura and Ame overlapping streams taking a cull simultaneously
Ame getting a rapidly decaying CCV spike in the middle of doing nothing

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:49:03 2022 No.16186407 >>16186364 Like I said, it's a new variant, we need to watch out for the next days if this is prevalent.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:51:18 2022 No.16186492 >>16186161 Anon, I think you are misunderstanding something about Gura and the size of her audience...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:51:24 2022 No.16186497 >>16186298 If this is a way to get Susan to target EN vtubersvmore, it might succeed at further lowering the CCV. It's kinda smart on /jp/ part.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:51:41 2022 No.16186506 File: 299 KB, 892x841, 1640870002859.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16186229 >>16186298 >>16186402 Thanks for the update anons. Those spikes do look fucking weird.

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:54:11 2022 No.16186595

>>16186492
Uh the size of her audience is nothibg compared to the size of SEA women willing to farm views for their favs anon. She could have 10M subs and it would still lose of SEA fanaticism. I know it, I saw it. Besides, NijiEN males are going to gain a lot more fans so I wouldn't dpibt it will match Gura's crowd one day.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:55:41 2022 No.16186637 Devaju, I've seen this posting style before.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:56:47 2022 No.16186676 >>16186637 mmhh, what part of the world is waking up right about now i wonder

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 06:57:40 2022 No.16186700 >>16186637 (me) Devaju what the fuck Dejavu*

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:00:25 2022 No.16186790 >>16186637 Yeah, I won't bother giving yous since it's idiotic to think HoloEN is losing against NijiEN or their fanbase in KR.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:04:04 2022 No.16186905 >>16186637 one guy might be a joke for other thread but we have literally ONE guy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:05:51 2022 No.16186982 >>16186905 >/#/ is performance art like pottery

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:08:12 2022 No.16187068 >>16180844 >Watame voice debuff huh?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:08:46 2022 No.16187085 Speaking of Korean, I find it funny how Korean unicorns are in love with HoloEN while none looks at NijiEN females, even though they are Hololite. Even better, I barely see anybKR clips for NijiEN males and females

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:10:42 2022 No.16187150 >>16186676 EU?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:11:52 2022 No.16187183 >>16187085 The word "nijisanji" make them sick

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:15:23 2022 No.16187287 >>16186263 It was only 11:46AM when that tweet was made. I bet they just didn't get enough in stock.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:17:13 2022 No.16187350 https://twitter.com/Gwelu_os_gar/status/1480421727629115394 gwelu's old pc finally kicked the bucket

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:18:36 2022 No.16187403 >>16187350 I’m gonna miss always seeing him in Nijimado

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:18:43 2022 No.16187408 >>16187350 >Holding out for only 131 days What a weak PC/Laptop

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:19:00 2022 No.16187423 >>16187350 >https://twitter.com/Gwelu_os_gar/status/1480421727629115394 RIP can 2022 start off worse?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:22:08 2022 No.16187544 >>16185616 couldnt be sadder

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:23:01 2022 No.16187574 >>16187350 another number.... gone..

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:24:40 2022 No.16187613

>>16184536
>>16184644
Cover can rejuvenate japan tourist industry all by itself once japan open up if they are smart. All they have to do is get the en girls over to japan and collab with a bunch of places to attract tourists and everyone would flood to those places. They can also pull a smol ame like mikodanye.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:24:52 2022 No.16187619 >>16186297 the most low iq take ive seen in a long while

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:26:31 2022 No.16187674 File: 299 KB, 1440x833, Screenshot_20220110-022537_Edge.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm laughing at your puny numbers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:26:37 2022 No.16187679 >>16184687 I get what you mean but the only one in her gen that overshadow her was coco.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:27:00 2022 No.16187702 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYuiA_QL1QY 385 waiting lmao the drama buff

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:27:31 2022 No.16187724 >>16187183 They are Korean after all

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:27:32 2022 No.16187725 >>16187350 more like his wife kicked its shit in when she finally got sick of seeing the electricity bill

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:28:41 2022 No.16187767 >>16187702 whats the drama surrounding this chubba anon?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:28:44 2022 No.16187774 >>16187674 How much is she getting culled?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:30:32 2022 No.16187854 >>16187613 >live in the same country as my oshi >have to fly to Japan for live performance Feels bad, man.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:31:47 2022 No.16187897 >>16187774 60% cull

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:32:02 2022 No.16187908 File: 1.01 MB, 1252x1690, 1630503281013.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The daily number is hopeless

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:32:16 2022 No.16187918 >>16187674 I've always been calling bullshit on those "estimation" , fucking 1.9 billion ? My country barely hear about them

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:34:06 2022 No.16187978 >>16187854 Just think of it as a vacation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:34:27 2022 No.16187999 >>16187679 Do you really believe it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:34:37 2022 No.16188006 >>16187908 >7k king HOLY SHIT CCVID IS AT AN ALL TIME HIGH

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:35:06 2022 No.16188030 File: 289 KB, 600x600, 1640225260316.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16187908 Hey he's back! Sort of.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:36:15 2022 No.16188094 >>16187908 kuzuha..

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:36:15 2022 No.16188093 >>16187674 Ask any SEA OP about Queen live and they'll tell you they know Queen Elizabeth, 150 nations my ass

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:36:46 2022 No.16188118 File: 410 KB, 1152x2048, FGiTspiUcAIus43.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16187908 It will take Susan a while to cull Gura's numbers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:38:13 2022 No.16188171 >>16187918 >>16188093 >SEAtards seething about Queen's numbers lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:38:44 2022 No.16188188 File: 14 KB, 497x102, Screenshot 2022-01-10 143744.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Never before have I seen an actual 1 digit ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDhZVaht6rA

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:39:28 2022 No.16188206
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>>16180737
It's gonna end up eating Kanae too at this point.
https://socialblade.com/youtube/compare/UCX7YkU9nEeaoZbkVLVajcMg/UCspv01oxUFf_MTSipURRhkA

Funny thing is, the EN Nijisanji official page is set to keep getting more subs than their own VTubers as well. It already passed Pomu and Selen, and it's rapidly closing the gap on Finana next.
https://virtual-youtuber.userlocal.jp/office/nijisanji_in
https://socialblade.com/youtube/compare/UC-JSeFfovhNsEhftt1WHMvg/UCu-J8uIXuLZh16gG-cT1naw/UCIeSUTOTkF9Hs7q3SGcO-Ow

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:40:55 2022 No.16188248 >>16188188 >started 5 minutes ago >10 likes Good ration >新人Vtuber She's been at it 5 months. When does it stop being okay to keep that title?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:42:02 2022 No.16188292 >>16188171 I'm just fucking tired about number being inaccurate these days

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:42:02 2022 No.16188293 >>16187999 Who else overshadow her in her gen? Kanata?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:42:10 2022 No.16188299 >>16188188 They show up on the bottom of the userlocal rankings pretty often.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:44:37 2022 No.16188391 >>16188292 At least it's not Nielsen ratings.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:47:26 2022 No.16188491 File: 166 KB, 653x367, Family Guy Nielsen.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16187918 >>16188292 >>16188391 Do TV ratings get view botted too?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:48:19 2022 No.16188523 >>16187918 I was going to agree with you until I realised it was Queen the band, not the Queen of England.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:48:49 2022 No.16188543 >>16188491 You bet your ass they are, and they're not accurate at all to begin with.

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:49:27 2022 No.16188574

>>16188391
>Nielsen
lel
Those fucks sent me 2 dollars, 2 actual dollars in legal tender, with a survey and promised they'd give me $5 if I filled it out. I never did, I don't even own a TV. Those numbers are complete nonsense and it makes me wonder why people ever used them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:49:50 2022 No.16188595 >>16188543 Damn you, Peter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:51:50 2022 No.16188662 >>16188248 >When does it stop being okay to keep that title? She has 5 viewers... let her have this lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 07:55:16 2022 No.16188773 >>16188118 Yeah, since most chumbuds never watch other holos

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:00:05 2022 No.16188944 File: 136 KB, 463x453, 1638177224051.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16187908 >most of these are probably waiting for the stream numbers any of (you) volunteer to sleep with susan so she will fix this ccv bug?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:02:23 2022 No.16189009 How's Peko's numbers nowadays? Has the cull hit her hard? Are noisagis crazy and mad enough to storm YouTube's HQ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:03:49 2022 No.16189058 https://youtu.be/37XzkQsos2I Any anons following this song relay? Might be an interesting case study regarding the emote/emoji spam theory from the Hololive Christmas relay

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:04:09 2022 No.16189065 >>16189009 >Has the cull hit her hard she's not even 10k streamer nowadays >are noisagis crazy and mad enough to storm YouTube's HQ no

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:07:12 2022 No.16189157 >>16189058 We only barely know Patra and Haneru here so probably no.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:12:29 2022 No.16189333 >>16184644 >>16188248 >She's been at it 5 months. When does it stop being okay to keep that title? Choco has been at it for three years and she still uses it, it really doesn't mean anything

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:13:52 2022 No.16189387 File: 146 KB, 368x360, Ogey15.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16189009 We haven't gotten a single solo 10K, tasukete... Jun-kun... anata wa watashitachi no yuiitsu no kibōdesu.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:14:26 2022 No.16189402 File: 17 KB, 348x222, lol.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:14:42 2022 No.16189413 File: 464 KB, 1483x376, 1629415008273.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] poll time

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:14:44 2022 No.16189416 IRYS POLL

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:15:25 2022 No.16189438 >>16189402 That's oddly sus Anyone else notice this happening as of late fellow /#/ friends?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:15:49 2022 No.16189458 KEK. It already got "100%" after 2 poll ticks in under a minute. Ridiculous nonsense.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:15:54 2022 No.16189461 It reached 100% engagement pretty much instantly

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:16:00 2022 No.16189467 >>16189402 >>16189413 Add it to the pile

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:16:03 2022 No.16189471 >>16189402 Up to 150% engagement in 2 minutes. These Holos sure have a lot of viewer churn.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:16:25 2022 No.16189485 File: 1.29 MB, 1440x2880, Screenshot_2022-01-10-03-14-32.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Another one

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:16:39 2022 No.16189492 File: 314 KB, 1496x378, 1627282765971.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16189413

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:16:52 2022 No.16189500 File: 227 KB, 719x874, Screenshot_20220110-161613_YouTube.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16189485

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:17:19 2022 No.16189513 Lots of polls lately, is Cover collecting evidence to confront YT with?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:17:58 2022 No.16189538 >>16189461 Great engagement. The worst I've seen is VSPO, 1000% engagement in 10 minutes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:18:12 2022 No.16189549 >>16189471 It's not viewer churn. Her CCV actually increased from 3044 to 3077 the whole time the poll time was up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:18:44 2022 No.16189575 Too bad it's 4 hours into the stream already and 12 am PST/3am EST so her number probably declined a lot already. Pretty crazy to know there's still at least 5000 people watching her at this time tho.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:18:46 2022 No.16189576 I've been avoiding these threads since new years because I can't handle these midget numbers, qrd on any new developments?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:19:00 2022 No.16189588 >>16189513 They might be,maybe we underestimated their manager?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:19:39 2022 No.16189615 >>16189513 God I hope so, but most likely it's something the girls themselves are doing on their own initiative because of some discussions they were having. If it was a top down directive there'd be alot more polls from the JP side.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:20:14 2022 No.16189632 File: 124 KB, 1080x653, Screenshot_20220110-191826_YouTube.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] NiceRyS

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:20:23 2022 No.16189641 >>16189576 YouTube team said they are aware of this issue and are "working on fixing it", usual canned response.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:20:33 2022 No.16189651 >>16189575 At least 5000? It reach almost 7k in 5 minutes, that engagement is crazy, its probably 8-10k, if not more

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:20:40 2022 No.16189653 >>16189576 Youtube acknowledged the issue and encourages people to report using the YouTube feedback function... And that's pretty much it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:21:23 2022 No.16189679 >>16189641 Hey, it's better than what happened last time where they went from "Looking at it" to "It's intentional".

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:22:08 2022 No.16189711 >>16189576 Were stuck in numbers hell but this time Youtube seem to be looking unto it unlike the previous cull with EN. Dont get your hope up tho it might take months before we see some change

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:22:28 2022 No.16189730 >>16189641 >>16189653 Still better than when they literally said "ur just reclining kek"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:23:29 2022 No.16189769 In a world without youtube fuckery, what would you expect normal poll engagement to be? There'll be decent chunks of viewers not logged in, watching from embedded sources, and not paying close attention or caring to vote

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:25:00 2022 No.16189813 >>16189769 30% would probably be amazing engagement

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:25:24 2022 No.16189831 >>16189711 >months Please I can’t take it anymore. Every Vtuber in Hololive and Niji will be two views if they take months to fix it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:26:53 2022 No.16189894 >>16189769 69% viewer participation

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:27:20 2022 No.16189915

>>16189769
Without fuckery?
in a 5 min poll I'd expect, accounting for SOME viewer churn and a somewhat more fanatical userbase (not quite kpop levels, but given how the likes go etc..) Probably 40%. Right now, people are AWARE and thus are more likely to vote in polls so without Susan fucking things I'd expect as high as 60% just off of people being up in arms. 100%+ engagement in under 5 minutes is just 'lol'.

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:27:56 2022 No.16189938

>>16189769
We've seen some anons throw out 50-60% for twitch polls, but I don't watch Twitch so idk.

For youtube, it's usually either low as fuck like 20% for some government stream or it's 100%+ like vtuber polls.
Even if the poll is 300% participation in 15 mins, it's still pretty bullshit because that implies the viewers have entirely rotated at least 3 times in 15 mins.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:28:08 2022 No.16189944 >>16189769 Anything above 20-30% would be extraordinary, and 50% would get accusations of rigging. Unlike the current situation where a pol can get 800% engagement and people will go >but muh viewer churn

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:29:04 2022 No.16189970 >>16189769 50 percent and below for polls on normal streams. For streams with high engagement, I can accept more.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:31:37 2022 No.16190027 >>16187908 Veibae #2 Nyanners #3 It's another good day to be a Vshochad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:31:55 2022 No.16190036 >>16189944 >people on discord and basket weaving forums hear about a poll >tune in with their adblock on >push like and vote in the poll >close the stream Takes less than a minutes.

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:32:31 2022 No.16190053

>>16189944
Let's go with the average user watch time to be 10-11 minutes, based off of pikamee and the other number from that niji liver who's name eludes me at this moment.
As such, doing some reductive averaging, I'd expect a 'full turnover' of the audience every 10 minutes (yes I know it wouldn't be a full turnover, but it averages out).
As such, with normal engagement levels a poll that goes on for an hour should probably end up with ~(30% x 6) 180% engagement.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:32:44 2022 No.16190056 >>16189831 On the other hand, you get to see some really nice negative % in StreamHatchet if they don't fix it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:33:32 2022 No.16190092 >>16189769 on average a poll is usually around 30% you're lucky to get like 50% that was crazy 100% is impossible somehow vtubers can get 200% in like 2 minutes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:34:10 2022 No.16190119 >>16190036 FUCK OFF SUSAN

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:34:31 2022 No.16190131 >>16190056 Oh it's going to be b a d already. 2 weeks with numbers this depressed is going to be very interesting. A month is going to be even better if YT doesn't release a statement and streamhatchet includes that in their 'analysis'.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:38:07 2022 No.16190261 >>16190036 Sounds like a slick operation, to get that disseminated and thousands of people in voting, all within two minutes. Imagine if they turned that toward something productive.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:40:23 2022 No.16190320 >>16189769 with how dedicated vtuber fans are I'll be generous and say you could get 60-70%. pretty sure most people on twitch normally only see around 30%

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:40:30 2022 No.16190325 >>16187908 finally some real numbers. No multitab, multiwindow, multidevice, tribal box pushing. Thankyou susan for showing REAL ccv.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:41:54 2022 No.16190365 >>16190056 >StreamHatchet they never get the correct data anyway even if YT didn't fuck up

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:43:05 2022 No.16190399

>>16180542
>extremely popular
IRyS will be the next EN to hit 1M, she out performed MYTH in the time she was active compared to their time maybe outside Gura, Kronii is the only council keeping a similar pace
THE FUCK ARE YOU ON?! /#/ has rotten your damn mind

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:43:12 2022 No.16190409 >>16190365 Not surprising but when the news reports on % growth in the streaming industry, they use those numbers, and mainstream cross-platform rankings come from those numbers as well.

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:43:22 2022 No.16190414

>>16190261
There are about 60k posts a day on /vt/, global is half the board traffic and this thread is often top 3 in post rate. If the 1 poster per lurker this is true there are more than 100k unique clicks on this finger painting forum. Is it so far fetched that a few of them do that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:44:59 2022 No.16190455 >>16187767 see >>16176490 it's her roommate

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:45:59 2022 No.16190480 >>16190414 >per lurker per 5 lurkers*

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:48:10 2022 No.16190548

>>16190414
>1 poster per lurker
anon there's only like 94 people right now in this thread, almost 200 people that care about numbers right now, lets say that all of them are supposedly going in every stream just to vote and fuck with numbers, that's only about 200 people which would not make the counter be 200% engagement in 5 minutes, let's say that all of global and its lurkers then are doing it to fuck with numbers, global has on average 300 posters, even if we apply 1 lurker per poster that's only about 600 which again, does not equate to 200% (6k votes in a 3k stream) in 5 mins even if we assume all of the posters and lurkers vote and fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:49:23 2022 No.16190574 >>16190548 Most of the posters in global were watching anyway, based on the thread discussion.

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:51:54 2022 No.16190642

>>16190053
anon, that 10 minute per watcher is bullshit since Youtube already doesn't count your view if you tab out, we saw that peko's and miko's were about 50 minutes on twitch, I wouldn't be surprised if pika's viewer retention on twitch is better since they count tabbed-out viewers

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:51:55 2022 No.16190644 >>16190548 /vt/ is being culled.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:52:18 2022 No.16190651 >>16190399 We are talking about her music tho

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:52:19 2022 No.16190652

>>16190548
It's 1 poster per 5 lurkers. This figure is before the happening, gamer gate, and the 2016 election so the lurker ratio is probably way up. At least 700 people have read at least a portion this thread. I'm just saying this is a targeted campaign by /#/ to drive up poll participation to reinforce their schizo theories.

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:52:34 2022 No.16190661

>>16190399
Hmm, I get your point but the numbers for her music don't lie.
Irys has shown that she has a pretty loyal fanbase and her stream numbers are far from bad, but in big collabs, she suffers the same issue that Kiara/Fauna face where she's the 2nd/3rd favourite of many hako-oshis.

It's not a hot take either that her songs objectively do not do well numbers-wise, compared to other HoloEN members, but this could be due to numerous reasons.
When even Kiara and Ina's originals do better, there's clearly something wrong.
It's also safe to bet Kronii and Mumei's upcoming originals are going to do better than Irys's originals too.

Irys is actually quite similar to Watame and Flare actually where their karaoke numbers are good (10k+), but their song numbers aren't.
It's weird, but Irys really needs to release some meta vocaloid covers to remind people she's supposed to be a Vsinger.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:55:19 2022 No.16190716 >haachama's 800 avg ccv 3 hour stream just hit 140k views after 15 hours The most successful 3view

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:55:49 2022 No.16190732 >>16190036 Totally bro, there's a discord channel with 40k users waiting for Nene to open a poll They also coincidentally are only active in proportion to the viewers

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:56:22 2022 No.16190745 >>16190548 okay fine, I'll post t. lurker

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:56:30 2022 No.16190748

>>16190652
roru
Numberfags are looked down upon by most, how many do you think would bother rigging a poll for us? How many do you think watch streams, especially for several dozens of chubbas from different companies?
How many would even bother opening up a stream to help the numberfags they loath so much for a campaign against Susan?
And 700? Fuck off, most people would rather cut off their balls than to click on this fucking thread

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:56:44 2022 No.16190756 >>16190661 I call bullshit on youtube. I don't get any IRyS songs recommended to me but I get music for tons of Holos I never even watch.

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:57:02 2022 No.16190761

>>16190661
>Irys really needs to release some meta vocaloid covers to remind people she's supposed to be a Vsinger.
Maybe being a Vsinger means she has different restrictions compared to the typical holomem (AZKI doesn't seem to have many covers either recently), but it's really odd that she has no non-Holo covers.

>Vampire, Cinderella, Goodbye Sengen, Ussewa, Phony, Kaibutsu, Kamipoi, EYE...etc
There's been so many covers of these from Holos in the past 6 months of these songs that even Kiara has a Vampire cover, yet Irys doesn't have a single one?
She speaks fluent Japanese too so there's not even a language barrier issue.

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:58:21 2022 No.16190795

>>16190661
Kronii and Mumei are definitely more popular than IRyS (probably 3-5x) and they're going to have the first original buff + hype from 5-6 months. IRyS used that hype on her debut EP and everything she's released on her channel were either re-releases or released without any hype. She would need to be able to announce it in a big event like an outfit reveal or her birthday (or a live if she ever does one.)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:58:55 2022 No.16190811 >>16190756 It's unfortunate, but she probably doesn't have enough algo 'weight' to her music yet, for one reason or another. This is where doing popular cover songs can help.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 08:59:22 2022 No.16190821 >>16190748 >Numberfags are looked down upon by most, They say that but they're watching, they care. They read. There are just few that are willing to give into the animalistic instinct since it is taboo.

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:00:26 2022 No.16190849

>>16190652
we've seen more than 100% poll engagement long before the current cull where people are more schizo about poll engagement, Bae's poll a while ago before CCVID had close to 200% in like 11 minutes. Also, do you think 100% of anons here are dedicated enough to not only watch /#/ like a hawk to see any potential polls but also go onto a stream and vote just for the hell of it? Some people here don't even post because they're too lazy to solve the captcha but now you expect me to believe that all of them aren't watching the stream before, monitor /#/ for any poll, and vote.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:03:12 2022 No.16190921 the thought of mumei teaser gonna beat IRyS original song number is actually hurt bros.. how to ease these feeling?

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:03:33 2022 No.16190935

>>16190756
Irys has 4 original songs and 4 covers of Holo songs.
Her original songs have done okay (HCH) to bad(Diorama) and her Holo covers basically stopped growing the week after she released them.

The reason you don't get Irys song recommendations is because her music is not popular enough to be in the algorithm.
It's the same reason why Flare's and some of Nene's covers do poorly.

Now if Irys drops an Animal or Phony cover and gets 400k+ views in the first week?
That will stick in the algorithm, but right now her releases are in the 150k views in the first week tier and those die so quickly.

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:04:51 2022 No.16190968

>>16190652
Stop pretending that there isn't an issue.
Why are you doing this? Clearly vtubers have an issue with it, why do you want this to be okay?
It's not okay
Stop pretending it's okay
Vtubers need you to think it's not okay
If they didn't think that it wasn't okay, they wouldn't be doing polls
There's even clips of their polls
There's clips of them being sarcastic or angry
Mio talked about it not being okay
Rushia talked about it not being okay
Risu talked about it not being
So many talked about it not being okay
So tell me you faggot nigger kike giga cum chugging mega faggot, why the FUCK
Do you think
You have thE FUCKING RIGHT?????
to pretend that this is okay
shut the fuck up and DO THE RIGHT THING
BE A GOOD PERSON
AND SAY
THAT IT'S NOT
FUCKING
OKAY
OR I WILL FUCKING KILLY OU
AND YOUR PARENTS
YOU FUCKING NIGGER FUCK

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:05:00 2022 No.16190973 >>16190935 Weirdly enough I get her covers recommended to me but only get her EP songs from the Topic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:05:43 2022 No.16190984 >>16190968 Based, but also in dire need of meds.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:06:19 2022 No.16191004 >>16190968 >Clearly vtubers have an issue with it, They are appeasing their numberfriend fans. Everyone is calling for blood. >>16190748 >for a campaign against Susan? People would agree to that even without mentioning numbers once.

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:06:54 2022 No.16191027

>>16190921
>how to ease these feeling?
Superchat her to release a cover of anything.
Even Ina released a cover in the past month of a 14 year old song and it got 1 mil views in a bit more than a week.

She should just reupload her own Only my Railgun cover if she's too busy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:07:18 2022 No.16191036 >>16190761 >her music production entirely handled by omegatranny/corporation >Cover Songs are not profitable / total loss That is why her cover songs are from other holo originals.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:07:19 2022 No.16191037 >>16190968 I think I will turn this into a copypasta

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:08:03 2022 No.16191056 >>16191027 renai circulation fits her voice so much. She should do that one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:08:20 2022 No.16191066 >>16191027 Or her renai circulation cover

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:08:26 2022 No.16191071 >>16190968 >KILLY OU LMAO. >>16191037 It definitely makes it better as a pasta.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:09:28 2022 No.16191094 >16191004 Even if Susan comes out doing a naked dogeza streaming while admitting that they fucked up big time you'd just assume that /vt/ kidnapped her husband and blackmailed her into doing so. Keep living in your delusion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:09:41 2022 No.16191105 >>16191066 There's no way they would come close to n*mirin's numbers and she wouldn't be allowed to use footage from the anime like she did on those.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:10:23 2022 No.16191130 Will a irys cover of renai circulation link her old channel to her new channel? The algorithm does seem to have magic sometimes.

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:10:42 2022 No.16191142

>>16190652
That's fucking retarded, show me people organizing this shit then. If it were some conspiracy involving fucking thousands if not tens of thousands of people you think none of them would have bothered coming to talk about it, recruit for it?

The fact this same data holds for indies this board gives zero shits about to bother voting in polls about, like JOP indies that have literally almost never been talked about here, and even random ass companies like Asus? Nah. It's youtube and clearly so. It's way more schizo to deny reality and say it's some conspiracy than just observe the results for what they are.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:11:44 2022 No.16191163 >>16190748 Numberfags are looked down on for making the numbers into a competition. Youtube lying about the numbers is different from that.

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:12:19 2022 No.16191178

>>16191056
The dilemma between taking down your old 100M+ view cover to revitalize your new channel or watching your dead channel gain more music views weekly than your current active one.

Compromise: Just do a Mousou Express cover since it sounds close enough.

Jokes aside, it only took Ina's Tabi No Tochuu cover 2 weeks beat Caesura of Despair's views in 6 months.
That should signal something to Irys.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:13:41 2022 No.16191211 >>16191178 That Ina and Myth in general are at least 10x as popular. I don't think that's inaccurate.

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:13:57 2022 No.16191218

>>16191163
Reminder that the cull was treated as schizo theory even by the fags in this very thread and yet it has happened again and again until most are convinced.
At least at that period there would be no possibility of people on this board logging in their 13 burner accounts to rig a poll.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:16:53 2022 No.16191297 >>16190849 >Bae's poll a while ago before CCVID had close to 200% in like 11 minutes. Source? However that might as well be evidence for the CCVID being earlier than expected and only being noticed now

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:17:14 2022 No.16191305 >>16191218 Yeah, because they just use numbers to shitpost, so they just say muh recline. That's what gave numberfags a bad name.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:17:39 2022 No.16191318 >>16191218 I think it's mostly shitposters who treat it like that. It's pretty much an open goal, particularly in this thread.

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:19:31 2022 No.16191360

>>16191211
10x is an exaggeration, more like 2x, but Ina and Irys's stream/VOD numbers are actually very close.
Their streaming popularity has nothing to do with music ofc. Towa's music does better than many holomems much more popular than her.

Irys not releasing more "mainstream" music is just a missed opportunity.
Even if she doesn't do well as Myth, she'll be doing better than she's doing now.

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:23:29 2022 No.16191451
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>polls are going to be the norm for every stream from now on because the girls want to know how many are really watching
If your oshi doesn't put up a poll she isn't a numberfag.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:23:43 2022 No.16191455 >>16191360 I think 2x is too low if you consider the mindshare that Myth has in the global vtuber community. Towa gets to show off her singing in various lives throughout the year. I wish IRyS had the same opportunity.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:24:12 2022 No.16191471 >>16191451 So who hasn't put up a poll yet

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:24:28 2022 No.16191474

>>16191297
EN did get hit harder last year, but there wasn't so much to compare to at the time since it was really just HoloEN as non-2views on the market.
This time around, HoloEN have taken less of a hit and JP (across companies) are the ones getting fucked hard, so maybe there is a rebalancing of sorts at play too.

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:24:30 2022 No.16191476

>>16191297
> CCVID being earlier than expected and only being noticed now
Naw, that's just good ol' 2020 cull. Miscount/inaccurate CCV is nothing new, that's what shit like adblock and tabout theories were.

CCVID is a whole different beast, capable of crippling Pekora and Kuzuha to being sub-10ks and making most Holos not even reach their waiting rooms.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:26:03 2022 No.16191509 >>16191471 gura

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:26:07 2022 No.16191511 >>16191471 Gura and I don't think she will because she knows the can of worms it will open and it'll force her to realize how many viewers she actually has.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:27:01 2022 No.16191532 >>16191297 shit sorry mate can't find it, but I distinctly remember that she had a poll that had a greater than 100% poll engagement less than 10 minutes in before the CCVID theory was popularized

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:27:16 2022 No.16191539 >>16191471 gura and i can't remember if ina has done one

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:28:51 2022 No.16191587 >>16191297 >>15170103

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:29:51 2022 No.16191613 File: 1.47 MB, 1256x1023, twappi.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Things are improving. Towa got the nike back, she's not getting L'd.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:30:20 2022 No.16191625 >>16191539 If gura had started a poll on her karaoke then this culling shit would have been on the trending list of twitter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:31:45 2022 No.16191665 >>16191613 That might be because, like Fubuki's Pokemon streams, this sort of stream brings in a lot of tourist viewers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:32:11 2022 No.16191678 >>16191625 >this culling shit would have been on the trending list of twitter. You vastly overestimate her reach and her fans' reach.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:34:41 2022 No.16191728 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvuhsTyBkiI So this is what a normal ccv/vote ratio looks like.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:34:48 2022 No.16191731 >>16191678 Gura trends pretty regularly when she does big streams tho? It's not hard to make it into the top 10 during calm days.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:35:26 2022 No.16191750 >>16191678 Have you not learnt not to bet against hololive numbers

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:35:41 2022 No.16191753 >>16191678 Lol, if the poll has something like 21k Ccv against 60k voting then this shit is going to be trending on twitter. Gura got trended on twitter plenty of time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:35:46 2022 No.16191759 I didn't know they were doing a poll but around 100% engagement in 10 mins.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:36:23 2022 No.16191779 File: 527 KB, 1634x422, 3X1fTc3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16191728 Post a pic next time. It's almost 100% at 11 mins which is still pretty fucky.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:36:48 2022 No.16191793 File: 786 KB, 1080x2400, Screenshot_2022-01-10-17-33-28-945_com.google.android.youtube.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16191759

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:37:01 2022 No.16191798 >>16191532 Then sorry anon, I can't believe the assertion. Unless your autism skews that way, memory can be unreliable and even manipulated. I'm not saying it didn't happen. But one element like the date or duration could be easily mistaken

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:37:33 2022 No.16191807 >>16191728 not as bad as hololive with 100% in a minute but still super fucky

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:37:40 2022 No.16191811 >>16191779 We already know Hal is being fucked with since he's said as much.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:38:07 2022 No.16191819 >>16191759 >10 mins try 1 min iirc nene outfit reveal 100% in 1 min

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:38:23 2022 No.16191828

>>16185847
You just made my point. Anyone thinking they reached the top is too myopic. They are entertainers first and foremost. They compete with the likes of Stephen Colbert, Dave Chappelle and Pewdiepie for eyeballs (and to a lesser extent, anime and Hollywood).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:41:18 2022 No.16191910 >>16191811 It's not Hal's channel. >>16191819 That anon was saying getting 100% in 10 mins is more "normal" because we've seen so many cases of 100% in 1 min.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:41:54 2022 No.16191928 >>16191910 >It's not Hal's channel. Fans are infected, channels are hosts. Hal's fans are infected.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:42:32 2022 No.16191942 >>16191798 >>16191587 Found it this was in December 21 which is before the proposed start of the CCVID on christmas

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:42:56 2022 No.16191952 >vtuber fad is starting to die >youtube algorithm boogeyman is somehow to blame

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:45:01 2022 No.16192004 >>16191952 This shitpost would work if VOD views weren't unaffected, you absolute moron. Go bait in some other generals or make YET ANOTHER bait thread. Faggot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:45:36 2022 No.16192020 So why is Gura unaffected much by the cull? She can still pull 10k+ when those above her before has been reduced to sub 10k streamers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:46:41 2022 No.16192037 >>16192020 You're not going to believe me when I say this, but Gura is actually quite popular.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:46:43 2022 No.16192038 >>16192020 She's EN so she wasn't ripped to shreds right away, and her viewer base is massive. Like Pekora though it'll worsen and she'll be sub 10k sooner or later

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:46:56 2022 No.16192045 >>16192004 the ship is sinking, just move on already. your copes are starting to become more and more out of touch with reality

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:47:37 2022 No.16192057
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>>16192020
her audiance size is just that much bigger. her average uniques is double of most holos. by next week, we might actually see the "floor" of what yt will never mark as "bot" out of her live viewers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:50:25 2022 No.16192133 >>16192020 You never found it weird when Gura has a VOD with double the views of another JP VOD that had a higher CCV? We haven't known what's Gura's real numbers are for a very long time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:50:36 2022 No.16192146 >>16192020 Gura is the one hololive member that has never been culled. Not in 2020 and not in 2022

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:50:39 2022 No.16192149 >>16192020 her fans only watch her, they don't have 10 tabs boosting all the jp members streaming so they can inflate jp ccv in their shitty numberfag war.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:51:37 2022 No.16192177 >16192149 Shitty cope as that didn't work since forever

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:52:24 2022 No.16192207

>>16191942
>Dec 21
I feel that date just makes a case that CCVID was earlier than commonly held. Anons have already theorized that the CCVID AI was bundled together with the update that removed the dislike button in Dec 13. With the Dec 21 date, it seems like that theory might have more truth than originally thought.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:54:01 2022 No.16192254 >16192177 >the numbers were real before!!!!!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:55:00 2022 No.16192271 >>16192254 Feel free to post proof instead of posting what the voices in your head tells you

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:56:59 2022 No.16192341 >>16192037 >>16192057 >>16192133 I thought she only has deadsubs. That's what this thread always told me anyway.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:57:53 2022 No.16192374 >>16192341 Gura is the least impressive holomem, numbers wise.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:58:13 2022 No.16192383 >>16192341 Remember when this thread handwaved people showing evidence of CCV fuckery early in the cull and attributed it to Pakora/Holiday slumps? This thread is fucking stupid.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:59:12 2022 No.16192412 >Gura was actually the most popular all along. I love you sharkie!

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 09:59:56 2022 No.16192432

>>16192341
Pewd has a mountain of dead subs and he still average 2-3m views per VOD while the holo girls need special event lasting more than an hour to just reach 1m, "dead sub" is just a consolation prize excuse for the less popular to feel better, anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:00:13 2022 No.16192437 >>16192374 Elaborate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:00:28 2022 No.16192448 >>16192020 Anon, we just saw her karaoke struggling to get 20k and 3k viewers being flagged in real time

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:00:42 2022 No.16192454 >>16192437 I'm shitposting, that's what Stop taking every single post here seriously

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:01:07 2022 No.16192467

>>16192207
I don't think CCVID started on the 13th since Gura was still getting normal numbers at that point, she had one bad Minecraft stream but that was way earlier than her normal timeslot and it was a guerilla stream. Her numbers started getting weird at the 28th or so with her Minecraft stream that failed to peak higher than her mk8 stream, but this could also just mean that CCVID was busy infecting everyone first before showing any symptoms

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:01:36 2022 No.16192483

>>16192341
>unironically reading shitposts
Grow a baitpost filter
It'll make your time here more bearable when you find out half the posts aren't even worth skimming.

>>16192383
tbf Pakora is just a handful of shitposters actively trying to ruin the threads every day.
It worked because there would be 10 or so anons who couldn't resist biting, instead of just ignoring the faggots.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:03:52 2022 No.16192555 So has this thread accepted that EN was culled significantly more during December 2020 and the reason JP is affected more this time is because EN was pre-culled already? Gura's numbers prove it. Unless there's another theory.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:05:05 2022 No.16192589 >>16192437 Popular account -> popular account HER rise to popularity is impressive and so was hololive's, Gura's isn't. Gura is just a result of 2 popular things added together.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:05:17 2022 No.16192602 >>16192555 This loop again, really? It's been talked to death please do your reps

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:06:34 2022 No.16192635 >>16192467 >Gura was still getting normal numbers at that point, It didn't start with Gura though, it started on the other side of the world in the JP vtuber APEX community. Gura is one of the least affected outside of NijiEN males.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:06:37 2022 No.16192637 Callis graph looking more like an L every day

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:07:00 2022 No.16192647 >>16192555 no this place will never accept that en were ever at a disadvantage because jp is the best

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:07:00 2022 No.16192646

>>16192555
The problem is the first CCV change happened around the same time you'd naturally expect the debut hype for EN to start wearing off, so people would always argue it was natural and not Susan (despite it being a giant sharp drop down in the middle of a gentle downward slope if you plot it on a graph)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:07:06 2022 No.16192651 File: 36 KB, 793x442, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this an L or a Nike? In any case, it's really starting to accelerate with EN now holy shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:08:23 2022 No.16192695 >>16192647 An 11% difference is a decent amount, but eh

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:09:50 2022 No.16192732 >>16192695 Just like this time, the cull wasn't evenly distributed. Gura was reduced by about 50%.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:10:27 2022 No.16192753 >>16192383 >Pakora/Holiday slumps? T Pakora was literally just some retarded spic shitposter that people bit for some reason Holidays slump could have been a possibility sadly it was just Susan being retarded

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:10:57 2022 No.16192764 >>16192732 anon... the jps were culled even more than Gura this time, that's why comparing CCV right now is a fool's errand

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:11:09 2022 No.16192772 >>16192651 Depends on if she's able to recover. If she's stuck below half of her waiting room, I'd call it an L and say she's missing like, 60-70% of her viewers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:12:01 2022 No.16192798 >>16192772 I think she'll eventually regain her waiting room, but it usually only took Mori like 2-3 minutes, not 20.

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:12:11 2022 No.16192805

>>16192753
Yea. When the numbers KEPT DROPPING, I started to think it was some sort of fuckery afoot, but wanted to wait until after new years to be sure.
Lo and behold, the numbers did NOT recover, and the facts were evident that another wacky CCV change had indeed been pushed through.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:13:16 2022 No.16192834 File: 30 KB, 427x761, anonswork.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16192732 43%. and wasn't even the worst hit EN % wise

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:14:25 2022 No.16192869 File: 63 KB, 1167x296, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16192589 she was doing well as a streamer but only broke 1k on her final stream

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:15:18 2022 No.16192897 >>16192834 We could never know what was the true culling numbers for Dec 2020 as all of this was based on the assumption that the streamers themselves did not incline or recline which is too big of an assumption

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:17:43 2022 No.16192981 >>16192897 I think the point of the table is to discredit the idea that the cull only affected HoloEN.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:17:59 2022 No.16192989 >>16192764 It was already a fool's errand since the first cull, but didn't stop people from comparing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:18:05 2022 No.16192993 >>16192057 That's my thought as well. En vtubers aren't culled that much because they have broader audience for different places around the world.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:19:06 2022 No.16193018 >>16192993 *from

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:19:31 2022 No.16193033 >robocos graph the hell what is that sudden bump to 1k and then kicks it back to 400

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:22:04 2022 No.16193127 >>16192589 but then irys and mumei should have been massively successful

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:22:21 2022 No.16193132 File: 540 KB, 1080x1089, 1640572915992.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16191297 >>16191532

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:23:14 2022 No.16193155 >>16193127 Cover did everything they could to smother IRyS in the crib and Mumei was never as popular as HER. Mumei struggled to hit 100 on twitch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:23:50 2022 No.16193175 File: 81 KB, 1137x638, roboco graph2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] look at those bumps

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:23:55 2022 No.16193179 >>16193033 This is an imageboard post images

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:24:57 2022 No.16193207 >>16193175 This feels like youtube is doing something and fucking it up again

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:26:46 2022 No.16193265 >>16193175 Every 5 minutes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:29:57 2022 No.16193377 >>16193265 >every 5 minutes a for god sake is the same fucking behavior ofthe vod queues were they satrt updating every 5 min.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:31:56 2022 No.16193444 >>16193175 >>16193377 I'm gonna place my bet on "they sped up viewer verification but didn't stop it from immediately flagging those people as bots again one second later"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:32:22 2022 No.16193456 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw3mvmJdPRs

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:32:44 2022 No.16193465 File: 97 KB, 1094x601, Screenshot_276.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This already reminds me of a relief map, wtf Susan, what's wrong with you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:34:45 2022 No.16193528 >>16193444 One of these days Google's reliance on AI is going to kill us all

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:36:18 2022 No.16193570 >roboco jumping from 500 to 1400 to back to 500 should have recorded this shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:37:06 2022 No.16193596 >>16193444 That sounds so hilariously stupid, I have to believe that's what they did or are testing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:39:33 2022 No.16193685 >>16193456 This has been brought up before. People have pointed out Kanae has been getting hit pretty hard but it's nice to have a number(5k for an actual 15k)

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:40:49 2022 No.16193727

>>16193444
i would go to the contrary
like vods dequeueing in sets of whatever they process every 5 minutes i think roboco either has some new feature or is the final result fo the ccvid.
it is not the verifiaction being faster it is BEING FAR SLOWER so every 5 minutes it is giving a glimpse of a set of already validated users.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:42:05 2022 No.16193768 >>16193465 Maybe they're attempting to fix the problem?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:42:06 2022 No.16193769 >>16190056 It's not affecting other streamers

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:42:59 2022 No.16193799 >>16193769 It affected that giant ASUS stream.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:43:07 2022 No.16193802 so was ame viewbotted earlier or is YT just fucking up THAT much

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:44:06 2022 No.16193832 >>16193799 I'm sure this is the reason for the rollback since yt changed tone after than event

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:44:12 2022 No.16193836 >>16193799 i think those were bots. that stream has only 200k views.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:44:44 2022 No.16193857 >>16193802 The exact same nonsensical spikes are happening to other channels as well, both before and after it happened in that Ame stream

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:44:48 2022 No.16193860 >>16193802 Gee you think? >>16183963

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:45:50 2022 No.16193899 >>16186364 Three, actually, and now it's happening a fourth time

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:46:25 2022 No.16193919 File: 537 KB, 1024x576, kanae sub buyers.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16193456

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:47:19 2022 No.16193947 robocos graph is one of temost interesting things right now from 500 to 1700 to 1200 to rising again.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:49:12 2022 No.16194017 >>16193175 robocock...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:49:19 2022 No.16194022 >>16193947 Post images

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:49:41 2022 No.16194041 Where's the top female streamers ranking from streamhatchet?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:49:56 2022 No.16194052 Maybe YT is just realizing who's using bots? I mean, not all are affected, just look at NijiEN, NijiID and NijiKR. Not everything is a conspiracy against Hololive you know. They need to be held accountable if they use dirty tactics.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:50:28 2022 No.16194068 Mori finally reached her waiting room after 48 minutes (the longest it has ever taken).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:51:23 2022 No.16194102 >>16194052 Accept it anon, you're a bot We're all bots fighting for bot rights

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:52:05 2022 No.16194134 >>16194052 Yeah, it's believable that Niji main channel uses chinese view bots to pad their numbers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:52:36 2022 No.16194158 >>16194068 And this was a somewhat guerilla stream so the waiting room numbers should have been lower than usual.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:53:37 2022 No.16194191 File: 1.48 MB, 1280x1028, RBC.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I call it the "toblerone"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:53:55 2022 No.16194202 File: 85 KB, 1140x648, roboco graph4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] look at this beauty i hope roboco streams for long every new peak seems higer

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:54:39 2022 No.16194223 >>16194191 It's 100% YT attempting to roll something out. Goddamnit you fucks, what are you doing?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:55:49 2022 No.16194270 File: 64 KB, 350x511, CrushCardVirus-TU01-EN-R-UE.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16184037 Crush Card Virus Virus?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:56:22 2022 No.16194286 >>16194223 Looks like it took thenm 40 minutes to finally confirm that 500~ of RBC's viewers aren't bots.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:56:51 2022 No.16194308 >>16194052 Stop bullying Roboco and being racist to robots.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 10:57:55 2022 No.16194347 File: 1.24 MB, 1214x681, 1640649390730.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16194191 >>16194202 That reminds me of this

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 11:00:50 2022 No.16194447 These graphs used to look like faces, now they look like teeth.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 11:01:28 2022 No.16194472 >>16194223 I'm sticking with the theory that >Viewers are getting un-filtered but then immediately re-filtered unless someone can come up with a better theory for viewers appearing then disappearing in groups of 500 every 5 minutes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 11:02:41 2022 No.16194512 >>16194472 Looks like they are doing the needful or Pahjeet bot isn't fully offline.

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