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Which one do you think is the better company and why?

Let's have respectful discussions, please.

>> No.16161695

nigger

>> No.16161732

>>16161652
Hololive because I can read it, what’s a nijisanji lol

>> No.16161760

Both are black companies. Don't care about the corporations, only care about chuubas themselves.

>> No.16161916

AnyColor cares about the industry, while Cover only cares about itself.

>> No.16161941

>>16161652
The most racist company is my favourite.

>> No.16161987

Vshojo

>> No.16161996

>>16161916
If they cared about the industry they wouldn't have made NijiEN. Both companies only care about money.

>> No.16162026

>>16161652
I'm not a cuck or Seanig so hololive.

>> No.16162043

>>16161652
VShojo

>> No.16162057

>>16161652
774 inc.

>> No.16162066

I like NijiEN's vtubers better than HoloEN but HoloJP's vtubers more than Nijisanji's.
Hololive as a company seems to care for their talents a lot more

>> No.16162102

HoloJP and NijiJP are perfectly fine, the real problem are the worthless foreign braches. Death to EN, KR, SEAtubers and Vshojo. The foreign vtubers have been a disaster for the industry.

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16162105

i'd like to say nijisanji because i liked the less restrictive limits they put on the talents but then that less restrictiveness led to males so
the 'yagoo asking me to come home' posts have definitely been hitting hard...

>> No.16162127

>>16162105
Go home. We don't want unicorns

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>>16161695
fpbp

>> No.16162152

imagine being a corpocuck lmao

>> No.16162155

>>16162105
Please go and never come back. We, and the girls themselves don't want unicorns like you

>> No.16162162

I like talents from both companies and it's pure suffering not being able to insult either company's fanbase

>> No.16162172

>>16161652
Vshojo is better

>> No.16162232

>>16162155
>and the girls themselves don't want unicorns like you
explain voice packs

>> No.16162260

>>16162105
Too many fags in niji threads now to enjoy it. But who cares, there are so many streamers now it's easy to find alternatives.

>> No.16162298

>>16162232
Money.
Luca has a girlfriend but his vps are pure bfe.

>> No.16162381

>>16162298
So they do want them when it's beneficial? God sometimes the people here are some of the dumbest niggers imaginable. I'm not even that anon.

>> No.16162391

>>16161996
What's wrong with NijiEN?

>> No.16162425

>>16161652
I can't wait until both companies get into NFTs just to see the shit show that the EN audience will unleash.

>> No.16162430

>>16162102
Self-hating retard.

>> No.16162461

Kawaii Pro

>> No.16162490

>>16162425
Why would they?

>> No.16162506

Both are crap, Voms and Vshoujo, or VV are way better.

>> No.16162559

>>16162381
thats literally the core of this industry, to sell a persona and make it appeal to as many people as possible.

>> No.16162619

Niji v. Holo shazbowl when

>> No.16162631

>>16161652
Ah yes
>Let's have a respectful discussion of 2 fanbases that are always shitting on /vt/ nonstop
Fucking retard

>> No.16162642

Cover and Anycolor are the companies. Nijisanji and hololive are just their vtuber agencies. YOu can love niji and holo but not like the company itself

>> No.16162696

>>16162631
The thread is going well though, kind of

>> No.16162803

I guess the question is, why do hololive fans have such an extreme reaction to their girls collabing with males?

>> No.16162899

>>16161652
I don't care about the companies themselves and the "CEO best girl xD" memes. I'm only here to support my oshi.

>> No.16162997

>>16162803
>NO NO NO YOUR OSHI HAS TO STREAM WITH A MAN
Shoo cuck. You're the only one trying to start shit.

>> No.16163002

>>16161652
I mean as a viewer there is only two main things to care about, (1) can they provide entertainment and (2) healthy long term work environment for your oshi.
On those two points (1) is subjective but could be somewhat quantified in getting game permissions and freedom/access in terms of collab partners. On both nijisanji is ahead because of the entire walled garden approach Hololive has, but again, its subjective, many fans might be a bigger fan of a smaller but more consistent group of collab partners.
In terms of work environment we have no clue, but personally I think the rapid expansion tactic from nijisanji is awful for the long term growth of individual livers that cannot get a quick and successful niche but its probably the most profitable for the company itself.

>> No.16163009

>Love all of HoloJP
>Avoid HoloEN like the plague expect Irys
>Barely watch HoloID (Just Moona and sometimes treerat). Love Moona.

>Avoid NijiJP except Hayama and Nui
>Love all of NijiEN not Pomu.
>Only watch Bobon and the newest NijiID wave

>> No.16163051

>>16162997
But isn't the main attraction of hololive the fact that the girls never collab with males?

>> No.16163093

>>16161652
why don't they ever collab anymore
there should be a niji vs holo minecraft football tournament
and pikamee can be the referee

>> No.16163234

>>16163051
Look if people were actually mad at that, people woulda abandoned mori or sora at this point.

You know the real reason?

Hololive has better kayfabe. That's it. That's literally it. If you wanna live your fantasy about talking to an anime girl and feeling like they're anime girls, Hololive is your fucking game.

Compared to nijisanji where they actually act like normal streamers and normal people, which in itself its own appeal. Yeah, hololive gives a better feeling of immersion for people . Since they are watching people strutting anime avatars.

I personally prefer niji for the more organic interactions they have with each other and fans , but i can see why people gravitated towards holo more. People who wanted what niji provides is literally already watching streamers. people tune into anime to escape reality.

>> No.16163237

>>16162997
Bro, you aren't their boyfriend...

>> No.16163271

Hololive cares more about their talent and the health of the scene a lot more. Nijisanji is very short term profit driven. They flood the market to see what sticks and impose really draconian practices on their talents (collab fees, have to pay for alternative costumes, etc)

>> No.16163328

>>16163271
>Hololive cares more about their talent and the health of the scene a lot more.
No they don't.

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>>16162105
>come home anon

>> No.16163355

>>16163009
Like Ying and Yang.
You know the way anon, never doubt it.

>> No.16163374

>>16163237
No shit, I don't want any girl in hololive to collab with guys. Even ones I'm not sexually attracted to at all.

>> No.16163401

>>16163271
>collab fees, have to pay for alternative costumes
Wtf is that true?

>> No.16163408

>>16161652
If you wanna go parttime or side hustling, nijisanji is the better option. If you wanna go fulltime chuuba, then Holo is the answer

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>>16161652
Evil is Evil. Lesser, greater, middling… Makes no difference. The degree is arbitrary. The definition’s blurred. If I’m to choose between one evil and another… I’d rather not choose at all.

>> No.16163422

between the two, i began with hololive. but since 2021 Im watching all niji branchs much more so i think I like their vibe a lot more

>> No.16163428

>>16163401
No, it's a shitpost

>> No.16163450

>>16161695
fpbp

>> No.16163466

>>16163237
Bro, you will never have sex...

>> No.16163469

>>16163401
Collab fees is a rrat these idiots bought.

Alternative costumes is provided by milestones, but if you want more than what the company wants to give you , you have to pay yourself.

Honestly reasonable if you ask me.

>> No.16163470

Futile thread OP but gonna give my .02 cents since I'm bored as fuck right now after ODing on Monster Rancher during the weekend.
>Nijisanji
Better at handling their business as an "actual business". Barring the last few months of stupidity (Yumenographia and the DLsite BS), they have very good business sense. Had the foresight to avoid the copyright BS that would later lead to the Holocaust. Was waaay ahead of anyone in terms of developing and shilling merch. Actually made proper use of their popular livers to create connections. JKgumi was already making anime cameos before Holoalt was even a twinkle in Yagoo's eye. Not to mention most of their livers are actually signed by labels (which may not be a good thing in the long run though). And is way ahead in terms of production values. The individual livers themselves may not be as popular as their Holo counterparts, but as a brand Nijisanji is still somewhat ahead of Hololive domestically. Overseas of course is a different matter. Their biggest flaw, however, is managing talent which is weird since they're the ones who actually have a visible legal department. They suck at hiring good talent. NijiJP hasn't had a breakout star in almost 2 years. NijiEN finally has one in Mysta and it took them 4 waves and 15 talents to get one. And no, regardless of what some delusional dragoons might think, Mysta is what an actual break out star looks like. Their other international banches are even worse off. NijiKR is dead without Bora. NijiID is stillborn because Hana decided to chase SJW clout. Raito and Meiro should have never been hired. And the way that they handled the Roa-Meiro drama is stupid. The Matsuri-Chammers Yab had more damaging potential and that shit got resolved without too much of an issue.
>Hololive
Insanely good at hiring talent and the right personnel. Sora and Fubuki may not have been as popular as Mito but they were the perfect building blocks for Hololive. Those two pretty much set the tone for the company's internal culture and all the unity shit. I'll give them a pass on hiring chris since this was literally gen 1 and I doubt they had that many applicants to choose from. Hired onion maid and Shuba for gen 2. FBK nepo'ed Gamers into Hololive but that ended up being a coup because doog. Almost all of Gen 3, Gen 4 had Coco. Gen 5 is kinda so-so but Botan is still a good mid-tier Holo not to mention Nene is kinda coming into her own. And then we have Gen 6. Laplus has Pekora level potential while the Orca is a real-life succubus that might rival Rushia in siphoning money from her gachis. Cover is also more open to taking risk business-wise (less so now, unfortuantely). Going all in on China when they saw that JP had limited growth potential for them at the time. Going all in on the EN market when no one was sure if it would be profitable. This however does bite them in the ass a lot (Taiwan Yab, Permissions, possibly HoloAlt as well). They also have insane levels of "falling ass first into first place" syndrome. Taiwan-Yab led them to a clean cut from China which helped them exit that market which would have been insanely hard otherwise. Even the permissions arc somehow ended up being a net positive for them since it ingrained them to publishers like Capcom (who was the main culprit for it ironically enough) and it also allowed the talent to be less formulaic in terms of content. Shit, i wouldn't be surprised if Yagoo and his dumbass somehow pioneers the fucking meteverse shit to be mainstream. With that said, Cover definitely sucks at actually being a business. Their merch took fucking forever to catch up to Nijisanji (they're still behind them in JP though), they're too conservative when it comes to capitalizing on their talent's popularity. And even now, they still depend way too much on lucky breaks. The talent really hard carries the company. Honestly though, if both companies somehow fused together while keeping all of their good points, I wouldn't be surprised if Vtubing became mainstream in the west.

>> No.16163474

>>16163401
no, it's a shitpost except the part about alternative costumes which they get one free for reaching 50k, but the rest it's up to them.

>> No.16163480

>>16163374
You said called the other guy a cuck, implying that you're not one and to be a cuck you need to be in a relationship with someone and you're literally nothing to the girls you watch, sorry.

>> No.16163508

>>16162105
You being a rosebud is unsurprising.

>> No.16163560

>>16163470
>nijisanji merch is better than hololives
Looked at the last few sentences of your post and realized you have no idea what you're talking about. Nobody read this drivel.

>> No.16163564

>>16163470
cover and anycolor merging would make a monopoly so i dont think it could even happen

>> No.16163582

Man, this board is so full of dumbfucks... It reminds me a lot of white supremacist threads on /pol/ where every post is overreacting to something or showing insecurity.

>> No.16163598

Hololive
They help give mentally ill streamers and mentally ill schizos purpose in life, saving society.
Nijisanji is just a profit driven black company that restricts its livers and has a toxic fanbase, and honestly it would be beneficial for the livers to just graduate

>> No.16163612

>>16163480
Bro you can't even speak English pffttt haha don't (you) me again pathetic SEAmonkey.

>> No.16163716

>>16163560
I don't mean they're literally better in quality dumbass. I mean their Merch game is stronger. Niji floods the domestic market with their merch. Holo is too conservative when it comes to production.

>> No.16163803

>>16163612
I'm pretty sure you're trolling now, but if your posts are actually genuine I think you have some very serious mental illness and should really seek medical help. Not trying to insult you here, just trying to help.

>> No.16163856

>>16162105
I mean you have a plant based GFE alternative in Hololive so its not like you need to adapt that much,

>> No.16163921

>>16163470
>Hana decided to chase SJW clout
Need more info on this rrat.
>Cover is also more open to taking risk business-wise (less so now, unfortuantely). Going all in on China when they saw that JP had limited growth potential for them at the time. Going all in on the EN market when no one was sure if it would be profitable.
Niji had Chinese and "English" branches before holos.

>> No.16163945

>>16163803
Hiroshmoot was specifically asked by stanford university to make this board as a case study in insanity and mental illness, you should assume everyone here is mentally ill by default

>> No.16164067

I mean there is also the idea that how the male thing is handled by each liver matter.
Do I trust my mentally unwell oshi to create a healthy relationship with males and wont cross the line? Whatever that line might be.

>> No.16164133

>>16163921
Look at this way anon. Niji went to China as a side-project because they were already succesful domestically. It's the reason why VR feels somewhat disconnected from the Nijisanji brand. Holo went to china due to desperation. They treated it almost the same as their main market for a time hence why a lot of HoloJPs were way more famous than their Niji counterparts. Also, renaming IN as EN doesn't count.

>> No.16164136

>>16163945
I'm gonna sex you

>> No.16164172

>>16163945
Living for this rrat

>> No.16164194

>>16163009
>not Pomu
What the fuck?

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>>16162105
why do unicorns consistently watch nijisanji and then get surprised at the existence of males

>> No.16164213
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Nijisanji
Best 3D (quality, variety of scenarios)
Variety of personalities
Nice and high quality concerts
More game variety
Well organized tournaments

>> No.16164217

>>16163921
Hana tweeted something about Vtubers being no different from e-thots. Keep in mind that this was close to her heyday, when she was far and away Nijisanji's biggest international liver (Bora hadn't exploded in popularity yet)

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>>16162105
I genuinely hope you kill yourself you fucking dipshit.

>> No.16164286

>>16164209
Their IQ is -1 clearly

>> No.16164298

>>16163856
Trading one whore for another is not gonna solve much

>> No.16164370

>>16162490
Reddit (the west) hates NFTs because it's le bad for the environment but mostly because blockchain tech poses a real threat to traditional banking systems owned by shlomo and that's literally another holocaust.

>> No.16164379

>>16163803
You type like a pathetic passive aggressive little nigger. Your grammar is horrible and you aren't half as smart as you think you are.

>> No.16164446

>>16164379
You need my dick anon, pull down your pants we're going doggy

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I like them both. Wish they would do more big collabs together. I'm even willing to settle for an Apex tournament between the two companies at this point.

>> No.16164513

>>16161652
>Holo
Quality over quantity
>Nijisanji
Quantity over quality
I dont mean that holo has better quality than nijisanji or the other away around, it's just their primary focus are basically this. Holo is like a premium specialized store and Niji is like a supermarket. Ofc there's premium stuff at supermarket too but it mostly focus on selling a range variant of products and constantly expanding it's selections doesnt matter if the product's sell is good or meh, cause there'll always be someone who'll buy it.
>meanwhile
Holo focus on producing the best of talents based on their own standards, and will try their best to have them sold out before releasing another batch

That is why it's stupid to force niji's standard on holo, since they have a totally different approach.

>> No.16164578

>16164370
Bad /pol/io, no (You). You niggers have a dedicated containment board, do the needful and
remain there.

>> No.16164588

>>16164194
She ain't right in the head.

>> No.16164683

>>16164588
And Millie Enna Nina and Finana are?

>> No.16164688

>>16164446
Dilate your axe wound

>> No.16164781

>>16164379
When you calm down, read that post again and you will realize why I said you need to seek medical help.

>> No.16164783

>>16164578
Kys nigger. You're not the board police.
>>>/b/unkerchan

>> No.16164820

>>16164688
Damn it anon how did you know I have axe wounds on my sides? We were meant for each other

>> No.16164837

>>16164781
>you said called
Learn English. I'm not reading your post, SEAmonkey.

>> No.16164909

>>16164370
>blockchain tech poses a real threat to traditional banking systems owned by shlomo
Holy shit, you're onto something here!

>> No.16164926

>>16164246
what would rosemi think of this post, anon?

>> No.16164973

>>16164926
rosemi cucks her fans, who cares what she thinks?

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>>16162127
>>16162155
>>16164246
Not him, not even a unicorn, but kys. Rosemi's channel is not your personal clubhouse
If you care more about chasing off people who disagree with your faggot tastes, than Rosemi's growth then double kys

>> No.16165020

>>16161652
Well, Hololive is for men, while Nijisanji is for women. Neither is better, or worse. Both have their place

>> No.16165081

>>16164837
Forget it, you're baiting. No one can be this dumb.

>> No.16165138

>>16164979
We don't want unicorns in niji because you retarded faggots always complain about the company not catering top you in our threads. Stay in hololive where the girls milk your every penny while i donate to elira because shes cute and will need the money to buy bl doujins.

These girls will never like you, they will never know you, and they don't care about you as an individual and never will. You're watching entertainers in nijisanji not prosocial whores.

>> No.16165160

Hololive has a Red Oni. Nijisanji has a Blue Oni. They're both massive sluts. Therefore they're both on the same spectrum of I wanna plow those goddamn onis. Simple as.

>> No.16165173

>>16164683
They don't have menhera "fuck you" sperg moments.

>> No.16165182

>>16165138
*parasocial

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>>16164213
>Well organized tournaments
ha
try to beat this

>> No.16165292

>>16165081
That's right be a dumb nigger and fuck off. You type nothing of value. Just snarky wacky comments. You're a newfag who needs to go back.

>> No.16165296

>>16161652
JP: Hololive
EN: Nijisanji

>> No.16165414

>>16161652
>respectful discussions
Buddy...you need a huge reality check

>> No.16165488

>>16161652

I have not one time in my 1 year and 2 months of watching Hololive even seen Nijisanji. I've been recommended plenty of indie Vtubers and Vshojo, but never Nijisanji.

Took a look at their talent list. Didn't recognize a single face there. Compare that to Hololive, where even a casual Youtube watcher might recognize Korone, FBK or Miko and you can already see the differences in success.

>> No.16165663

>>16165138
Anon... I'd like you to reread this post you just made, and consider whether you may have contradicted yourself

>> No.16165670

>>16165138
>watching entertainers
easiest way to spot someone who found out about vtubers post /vt/ creation

>> No.16165689

>>16165173
So you don't watch them

>> No.16165796

>>16165689
You fags have diluted "menhera" until it was meaningless. God I hate you redditors so much.

>> No.16165801

>>16165670
wrong, ive been watching since 2019

>> No.16165852

>>16165689
retard

>> No.16165881

>>16163470
Let's not forget Holos like Botan have connections more in-depth, so even if they don't pull big numbers like La+ or Peko they definitely bring something to Holo.

Xbox fucking loves Botan and both her and Lamy had gotten Diablo goods (we've also the sponsorships of Redbull and Arcane, etc etc)

>> No.16165891

>>16165801
Uh try again I've been watching since 2010.

>> No.16165905

>>16163470
>>16163234
>>16163002
You guys are so far up your own asses your breath and shit must smell the same

>> No.16165950

>>16164979
They don't *have* to collab or interact with males, but if you're a unicorn who gets into a Nijisanji girl with that expectation then you're just flat out retarded.

>> No.16165965

>>16165138
>we
>our
Who the fuck is (we), you actual faggot? Again, neither Rosemi's channel nor /vt/ is your personal clubhouse

>implying I'm a unicorn
>implying I'm a holofag
>implying I'm delusional enough to care about gfe
You faggots are simply more annoying than the unicorns at this point. The only complaining I see in generals are you mongoloids crying about the boogeyman unicorn that is most likely baiting (you)s which you retards are more than happy to provide

>> No.16165997

>>16165965
scroll up

>> No.16166133

For EN, I prefer Niji. I've been watching them since Obsydia's debut and they got me glued with Luxiem. For jp, it's kinda hard to keep up in general due to my wagie hours. I try to catch whatever gwelu, nene, roberu and maimoto are doing every now and then.

>> No.16166154

>>16165965
Pls andastand. Anti-unicorn schizos are all underage and have inflated sense of self importance.

>> No.16166189

>>16164979
>than Rosemi's growth
Rumao. As if losing braindead unicorns like that retard would hurt Rosemi's growth.
>double kys
You sound like a child.

>> No.16166253

>>16166189
Not him, but honestly, what do you think her niche is?

>> No.16166275

>>16166189
Rosemi's channel is dead. She can use all the help she can get.

>> No.16166339

>>16166189
imagine seething at the mere existence of unicorns wumao wumao

>> No.16166372

>>16166253
A cute variety streamer whose passion for streaming and sense of humor pull people in.

>> No.16166482

>>16166372
Thats not a niche thats just the baseline streamer pitch, what makes her unique in nijisanji EN?

>> No.16166489

>>16166372
>variety
>forest
>sekiro
>apex
>valorant
>fnaf
Is this the mythical niji freedoms I've heard so much about pogw?

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>>16166489
she has the freedom to order a fillet o fish on stream

>> No.16166561

>>16166482
You're clearly expecting me to give you a specific answer so just go ahead and spit it out already.

>> No.16166640

>>16166561
>A cute variety streamer whose passion for streaming and sense of humor pull people in.
Nta but this is literally applicable to every vtuber in existence. Even the men. It's meaningless.

>> No.16166702

>>16163470
the fact that you put this much effort into this post makes me worry you actually believe any of it

>> No.16166701

>>16166532
If that's her normal content then no wonder she is the worst in her gen. Gen 3 is about to overtake her lol.

>> No.16166722

>>16161652
Hololive doesn't have male so....

>> No.16166754

>>16166640
Why do people jump into comment chains without reading the rest of the chain? It's very obvious what point he's making if you read the rest of the fucking chain.

>> No.16166972

>>16162155
It does feel like they just don't want to be successful honestly when it's the dudes playing the parasocial game only a matter of time when they start to get shipped and eventually turn into accessories.

>> No.16166977

>>16166701
>Gen 3
Not if Reimu has anything to say about it.

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>>16166640
"what is rosemi's niche" is numberfag bait that's been spouted by people who have never watched her since onsydia debuted and she was the back of the pack, as if it's somehow some damning strike against her.
her tastes and sense of humor are heavily influenced by her terminally online gamer brother. she's in tune with a lot of 2000s era net and gamer culture from him and so unexpectedly comes up with a lot of things that most of the other girls wouldn't know because they never browsed 4chan or played many games as a kid or paid attention to that kind of stuff when they were young. she's also really passionate about doing less orthodox content for her channel, like her shorts, CYOA streams, game shows and other organized scripted collabs, etc. obviously it's not every stream but she puts a lot of thought into how to make her channel entertaining for the people who already like her content rather than numberfagging to avoid being back of the pack.

>> No.16167343

>>16166702
I mean, your free to debunk it. Its like saying Mocchi is a top tier mon when he actually sucks dick.

>> No.16167491

>>16165689
You're an actual idiot wow

>> No.16167509

>>16167343
it's more numberfag garbage from someone that conflates getting lucky with the algorithm and virality with actual intent or effort.

>> No.16167541

>>16161652
Nijisanji because I like men

>> No.16167728

>>16167509
Not sure what you're saying, breh? Cover did get lucky. No one in their right mind would wanna argue otherwise.

>> No.16167798

>>16167728
aight but it's retarded to say niji's not getting good talent of their own, calling mysta the only success of EN when as a unit they've actually managed to start challenging hololive's stranglehold on the west is downplaying the shit out of the branch

>> No.16168084

>>16167798
What? You serious breh? Aside from Mysta, and possibly Vox. Who in NijiEn was actually challenging HoloEn? Prior to YouTube fuckery, Sana despite all of the debuffs, was still ahead of everyone from NijiEn. NijiEn is 3rd in terms of the EN vtuber hierarchy. They're second to VShoujo in every metric including merch. You might call that shit numberfagging but it's the truth unless you wanna argue about nebulous shit like quality.

>> No.16169311

I mostly watch Hololive because I enjoy the kayfabe. Sometimes if I want to chill I'd watch Nijilivers like Yashiro since it's closer to a regular streamer vibe.

>> No.16169439

>>16165138
>We don't want unicorns in niji
>Stay in hololive
You do realize there are two HoloEN members with confirmed bfs and holobronies still watch them, right? I'm pretty sure NijiEN has more unicorns than HoloEN, but whatever helps you cope

>> No.16169855

With respect to people of anycolor, and their oshis, Cover staff is much smarter, and this leads to better content delivery.
>inb4 chinks
They did what they could. Years of being an idol company and SUSAN stole their ability to deal with these creatures.

>> No.16170067

>>16169439
It's only confirmed if they bring it up in a stream dumbass dipshit. Plus fauna is single now, she streams asmr and gfe. She has high stream hours. Her ex was long distance anyways.

>> No.16171731

>>16161652
>cover is almost masterful with their Japanese branch except for having holostars in the same company, mediocre with their id branch, and complete garbage with their en branch
>niji is consistent with all three branches, all of whom have men that the women suck up to thereby shaming everyone who ever supported those whores
I don't like either one. I can tolerate a black company, and I think Hitomi Chris should've kept her end of the compensated dating bargain, but appearances must always be kept up on the public sphere. No self owns. If other people dig around and throw dirt from a chuba's past, so be it. But a company shouldn't be shitting itself and feeding its own trolls.

>> No.16171891

>>16161652
Depends on their branch.
For example, the english branch of Hololive is a very bad company with regards to management.

>> No.16172075

Since my time to watch streams is pretty limited, I don't care about chuubas outside of Hololive, but honestly have no problem with people who like other companies or indies.

It's really annoying when people think they are morally superior for liking Nijisanji over Hololive *coff* kvin sombreros *coff* but honestly most people don't give a fuck either so whatever.

>> No.16172125

>>16167798
>start challenging
pre enmales imagine actually believing this nonsense
last time i checked none of nijien 1-3 can beat mori archived karaoke numbers, that phasmo megacollab was like what 9k peak?
t. ennafag

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>>16161652
I pretty much stopped watching HoloEN after getting into NijiEN. HoloJP is still good but EN sucks.

>> No.16172695

>>16161652
I stopped being a teenager too long ago to give a shit about picking a side. I enjoy good content and that's it.

>> No.16172833

>>16172075
>*coff* lel *coff*
cringe

>> No.16172965

>>16170067
Cope.

>> No.16173045

>>16172400
Dam that has to be the worst take I've ever heard

>> No.16175033

>>16161652
the one with horned loli is certainly better

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>>16161652

>> No.16176315

>>16172400
Same except I never watched HoloEN in the first place and I don't regret it. HoloJP is miles better than NijiJP with a few exceptions (Honma is a sweetheart).

>> No.16176859

>>16175129
It's canon that they're barely a company.

>> No.16176929

>>16175033
Nijisanji has Emma and Hololive has Laplus, so they're equal right?

>> No.16177178

>>16176929
Emma likes being whipped on screen. She wins hands down.

>> No.16177195

>>16164683
Watch Pomu CRAB GAME famous collab, she lose até least 10 percent of audience after dat shitshow

>> No.16177259

>>16177195
But her sub rate and view count has gone up since that collab

>> No.16177403

>>16170067
The guy post a date on tweet with her 1 month before her debut

>> No.16178344

>>16161652
Its only a matter of how deep you like your keyfabe. Hololive's is thick while Anycolor's ranges between medium to none. Arguments for both can be made really.

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Both?

>> No.16180042

>>16163564
Not, they really couldn't. VTubing itself isn't big and the tech isn't exclusive to anyone. It's like the Funimation-Crunchyroll thing where both are owned by Sony somehow. As it turns out, because
>they're part of the overall video streaming industry
>have very large competitors in Netflix, Amazon, Disney and Warner Bros (HBO)
>Sony themselves do not have a very successful video streaming service with very wide appeal
they manage to get approved even though that pretty much led to Sony being effectively in control of the Anime industry in the west.

Nijisanji and Hololive are simply agencies, and their parent companies aren't exactly rolling in billions of dollars or control a huge market. More importantly, the talent itself holds more power as an entity than the companies themselves. They could theoretically unionize and go on strike if they so felt inclined to it or simply leave at the end of their contract term and take their loyal fans with them and there's nothing that the companies could do about it.

>> No.16180423

>>16167004
finally a proper answer

>> No.16180759

>>16163009
>expect
kill yourself and learn english, esl-chama

>> No.16181967

>>16180759
>chama
Fuck off bear fucker. Go back to your 2view nobody. Also a typo isn't an English problem you fucking retard.

>> No.16182122

>>16181967
Nice ESL

>> No.16182297

>>16161652
>Let's have respectful discussions, please.
You knew exactly what was going to happen when you wrote this...

>> No.16182730

>>16177195
You're still pushing that rrat huh?

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>>16161652
Don't give a shit about the name behind the anime girl, but if I had to pick one it would be hololive because Gura.

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