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It's time to accept it, there is no viewership cull by Susan.
Your oshi is just reclining and the queen remains queen.

>> No.16090152

>>16089693
She used to get 90k+ for outfit reveals

>> No.16090230
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>> No.16090345

>>16089693
>not even 100k
I guess that applies to Gura too, right.

>> No.16090460

>>16089693
Your oshi was the reason for all the numberfags going insane though. She was getting topped by Nyanners LMAOOOOOOOOO

>> No.16090511
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>>16089693
>200k on her first outfit reveal
>only 50k now

Wow really big incline there

>> No.16090674

Where is Susan's stream?

>> No.16090688
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>>16089693
[Botan Member stream update]
>She's talking about the viewer cull and her own Youtube analytics
>Brought up some examples of streams that had been culled
>Her Metal Wolf Chaos stream that showed a 3.5k CCV peak actually had 14k
>Her Halo Infinite sponsored stream that showed 5.5k actually had over 10k
>They're aware of the mismatch, they can see it in their dashboard. In her opinion CCV is indeed important for them.
>They're waiting for google to fix it and tells viewers to not worry about it.
>She also makes fun of the contrast between CCV and views count after the stream ends.

>> No.16090696

>>16089693
> 50k on the same chuuba who consistently hit 80k-90k+ on the other reveals
Yeah sure Susan apologist

>> No.16090857

It wasn't even advertised. The name of the stream is "...?"

>> No.16091135

>>16089693
But anon we got proof of the culling on the mario kart stream
>20 minute stream
>live viewers shown by stream: 15k
>stream ends
>vod views the moment the stream ends:140k
Same pattern with everyon else, they are only getting 10% of their viewers shown

>> No.16091168

>>16089693
She literally got 113k last month on her outfit reveal you stupid cumchud numberfag.

>> No.16091339

I can't believe we have Youtube dick suckers here at. Goes to show who gets severe buttmad when Twitch gets mentioned as alternative.

>> No.16091346

>>16089693
in the waiting room were 46,462 people
this normally would have been a 80k-100k stream

>> No.16091479

>>16091168
oh yeah you are totally replying to a chumbud and not a baiting nigger who managed to catch you gullible idiot

>> No.16091482

her outfit is kinda ugly ngl

>> No.16091496

>>16090688
Not happening. Miko announced she may move to Twitch full time. In Japanese context, that is almost a giveaway for its a certainty.

>> No.16091494

>>16091168
all seaniggers can't understand irony nor being able to spot baits and that's why there're the worst posters on this shithole

>> No.16091582

>>16091482
>ngl
>lies

>> No.16091602

>>16091496
You dont even know english let alone japanese

>> No.16091619

Based.

YouTube will not improve, because they have a 15+ year track record of lying profusely to creators and consistently making their website worse no matter what backlash is

Cover will be forced to seek a partnership and/or move to Twitch, and after the initial meltdown from bitter brand loyalists and /pol/tards who let trannies not only live rent-free in their heads, but throw massive parties up there, (spoilers, YouTube has just as many trannies on staff in the american Corp office, they just dont parade them around as often) everyone will realize that 90% of the complaints about the site and its "culture" are a bunch of overblown panic

1. The site works fine, it just requires better than a pajeet potato to run, so those with garbagetrash devices and 0.001meg of download will have issues running it
2. "Twitch culture" doesn't exist. Each community and chat is its own bubble, and if people come in and are dusruptive there is this thing called a "moderator" that can just fucking ban them
3. "Oh no chat will be spammed oh no!" The average holos chat is already moving at a speed of 10 messgaes per second or more. When Slow Mode is applied on Twitch, that's about the same speed if not slower. Non issue
4. You dont have to allow raids if your that autistic, but you have to be a moron not to. Its maybe 20 seconds of elevated chat activity in exchange for hundreds and in some cases thousands of more viewers getting exposed to you, which increases the chances of hooking in more longtime viewers, and donators, which I'll remind you is the entire point of Covers existence, to make money
5. DMCAs are handled the exact same way on Twitch as they are on YouTube, and per capita there are actually far less DMCAs filed on Twitch year on year
6. It takes, and I am not kidding you here, exactly three mouse clicks to export a full VOD from Twitch to YouTube, so the "it has no VOD" complaint is nonsense as well. It is also incredibly easy to archive VODs on Twitch itself, it just takes a modicum of effort and channel organization

>> No.16091643

>>16091135
I'm sure Gura got more views for her shitty kimono than Coco's graduation.

>> No.16091752

>>16091602
Watch her streams. She said it right at the end of her Interstellar watchalong postviewing.

>> No.16091819

>Pekora got 190k+ for her outfit reveal before cull
>Gura got 50k after cull
Pekora has only around 2x more potential viewers than Gura so there is definetly a cull

>> No.16091821

>>16089693
Then how do you explain Pekora streaming to only 5k live viewers and then the VOD having over 500k views immediately after the stream's over?

>> No.16091888

>>16091752
Learn english ESL. Miko has been using twitch to stream copyrighted content that would destroy her channel with DMCA on youtube for more than a year.

>> No.16091914

>>16091496
Anon, it isn't up to her.

>> No.16091996

She literally had 44k waiting you absolute turbo retard, do you even READ this board?
>>/vt/?task=search&ghost=yes&search_text=44k

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yeah about that....

>> No.16092026

>>16091888
She literally said at the very end that she would stream Minecraft and other things there in the foreseeable future and might move full time to the platform if YT can't fix the bug. I watch all of Miko's streams you don't.

>> No.16092041

>>16090688
Revealing your analytics is breach of contract on youtube.
Thanks for the tip anon!

>> No.16092075

>>16091582
her mama cant design shit other than drawing a cute face

>> No.16092089 [DELETED] 

don't care, she's still j**'s little prostitute and her outfit is trash

>> No.16092120

>>16091168
>Falling for OP's bait

>> No.16092125

>can’t even get 60K
Fucking pathetic LMAO!

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Number don't mean anything at this point

>> No.16092166

>>16091619
noo u cant just make valid points stop

>> No.16092167

>>16090152
Not even Hololives weeb fanbase care about New Years Kimonos especially after New Years

>> No.16092191

>>16089693
Day 1 chumbud, I wasn't really interested in new outfits so close to the recent ones. Didn't even realize what this stream was based on my notification and only started watching now.

>> No.16092290

>>16091494
>>16092120
>>16091479
A herd of 13 year old cumchuds seething.

>> No.16092302

>>16091619
stop spamming this Bezos. Musk got the contract, you didnt

>> No.16092373

>>16089693
Would've been two million without the cull

>> No.16092405

>>16092302
See>>16092166

>> No.16092500

>>16089693
Haha yeah fuck gura bro. Post a pic of the full outfit so I can laugh harder haha

>> No.16092524

>>16091496
It would mean disabling and eventually losing all the members content or awkwardly streaming members only content on an abandoned platform. Doesn't seem likely and I honestly hope they don't move, emote spam is already shitty as it is.

>> No.16092528

>>16091752
>>16092026
someone will believe this retard

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cope

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>>16092014
Uhhh anon 50% of those viewers just left because they lost interest you know?
Yes this is what official staff from Youtube said.

>> No.16092712

>>16092528
OK then what did she say then? Did you even watch the stream?

>> No.16092789
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16092789

>muh twitch spam

>> No.16092797

>>16089693
Everyone got culled
Gura still top, but the culling is obvious

>> No.16092970

>>16092014
>>16092581
Its still bizarre how the world's biggest video hosting site is this ineptly handled. I cant tell if its due to heavy outsourcing or if the entire company is just poorly managed in general.

>> No.16093100

>>16092789
if it were on twitch it would be only KEKs in chat

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it's over holocels, your oshi will move to twitch and i'll spam this emoji on her chat, every stream

>> No.16093325

>>16092405
you never did tell me how are you gonna fix member streams being flooded with people who never bought a sub but got it through prime or got it gifted

unless you just dont give a fuck about hololive and just wanna promote twitch, then you should be extremely worried about that

>> No.16093341

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>> No.16093357

>>16089693
Decided to make a primer because I constantly see people posting the same dumb questions all the time. If you think there's missing information reply to the post with further additions modifications.
>spoonfeeding
Unfortunately, this isn't a 4chan problem so the trains and planes need to be loaded and the babies and retards need to be fed.

>What is happening?
Since at least the first of January, but possibly all the way to Christmas, users are being flagged by the YouTube anti-spam view detection system and kept from being displayed on CCV. You can tell because a lot of channels are showing an abnormal drop in audience size, the likes on a video are becoming larger compared to the CCV but the VOD views after the video ends remain stable as it has been before this was happening.

>Who is affected?
Everyone that exibits "bot-like" behavior. It doesn't matter if you are a free member with or without adblock, a YouTube Premium user or a creator; as long as you start doing things that makes you look like a bot to the AI, your account will not count towards the CCV.

>How do I know if I am flagged as a bot?
Look for a stream with 0 (or very low) views in YouTube Gaming or YouTube Live (the former has a better chance because of its structure) and open the stream. If the number doesn't change after 10 minutes, you are almost certainly flagged as a bot. Make sure that the view counter is stable when doing this. You might also want to try browsing using a private borwsing tab without logging in to verify that the CCV counter works. Avoid doing both of these things at the same time on the same device.

>So my oshi doesn't get my views?
Just for CCV during livestreams. Regular VOD views and and the total watch time for all the videos that you watch will be counted as long as you watch them in a manner that doesn't make the YouTube AI thinking that you're trully a bot and bans your account.

>How can I increase the CCV to the livestreams that I watch?
You don't, because all you risk is triggering the AI if it starts searching for other parameters and could end up affecting not just you, but the streamer as well. However, if you intend on doing so anyway, you just need to open a "private browsing" (Incognito, InPrivate, etc) instance on your browser and go to YouTube manually, search for the channel/livestream and open the stream without logging in. If you want to still participate, you can open the stream using your account on a completely separate device that isn't your browser to make sure the CCV counter isn't affected.

>> No.16093550

>>16093325
CCV is everything and why the Holos are paid specifically.

There is nothing wrong with being gifted subs. It's the ultimate act of generosity.

Pay up if you want to subscribe. It's the future and you'll need to get used to it boomer.

>> No.16093566

>>16092970

Heavy outsourcing is a sign of a poorly managed company.

>> No.16093627

> twitchfags shilling their cesspool of tumors
jesus can this board get any worse

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>>16093357
None of this matters when you can have a account made in 2007 and still be classified as a bot by youtube.
>>16092970
100% pajeet outsourcing
>get called out
>lets keep it private :)

>> No.16093851

>>16093550
yeah, you are just a numberfag. Fuck off. They still get the same money, they still know the real numbers through their own graphs, they arent losing shit expect your mental masturbation about numbers is lost

>> No.16093882

FUCK SUSAN

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FUCK SUSAN

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>> No.16094121

>>16093627
You're a minority, Susanfag.

>>16093851
All Hololive and Cover care about are numbers though. It's been proven time and time again. You just don't watch streams. Miko is the biggest numberfag of them all btw.

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> yeah, you are just a numberfag. Fuck off. They still get the same money, they still know the real numbers through their own graphs, they arent losing shit expect your mental masturbation about numbers is lost

>> No.16094315

FUCK SUSAN

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>> No.16094350

>>16094121
>All Hololive and Cover care about are numbers though. It's been proven time and time again. You just don't watch streams. Miko is the biggest numberfag of them all btw.
nigger are you reading my comment? THEY STILL KNOW THE REAL NUMBERS. It fucking doesnt matter and all that is lost is that numberfags cant masturbate to the numbers

>> No.16094476

>>16093851
CCV is literally how they get paid though. Stop being blind to reality. Cover punished one of their own talents for not reaching their CCV bonus and therefore she lost a sponsorship as a result. Noel's latest zatsudan is the source by the way.

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> nigger are you reading my comment? THEY STILL KNOW THE REAL NUMBERS. It fucking doesnt matter and all that is lost is that numberfags cant masturbate to the numbers

>> No.16094597

>>16094350
Yes, but CCV is how they are given their fucking monthly paychecks. WATCH FUCKING STREAMS, YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS BY NOW.

>> No.16094605

>>16089693
>no Cute and Funny (Cunny) awards
>Viewership tanked to 40k
Hmmmmmm...

>> No.16094690

>>16094476
They arent losing vod views. The ads are still going through. The superchats arent being stolen. Memberships arent cancelled.
What is your argument.

>> No.16094751

>>16094597
holy fucking shit. They know the numbers. The numbers are in youtube. They know the real CCV. It doesnt matter.

>> No.16094758

FUCK SUSAN

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>> No.16094889

>>16094751
Not enough to convince Miko to stay on YT. She's already migrating full time to Twitch for various stream topics. Just accept you don't even watch her streams because she said exactly this. She's finished with YT as it is.

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>>16092041
O LEALLY?

>> No.16095015

>>16094690
That CCV is literally how their monthly paychecks are handed out. SC revenue, VOD views, ads, that doesn't mean fucking shit. It's HoloLIVE for a reason.
>>16094751
And you can't stop Miko from going to Twitch full time, unicorn.

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>16094547

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> They arent losing vod views. The ads are still going through. The superchats arent being stolen. Memberships arent cancelled.
What is your argument.

>> No.16095073

>>16092712
I did and you are a fucking liar lmao

>> No.16095156

>>16094690
I got stripped my Polka membership yesterday faggot.

>> No.16095183

>>16094889
Show us when she said that. There would be clips of that all over the internet if such a huge move happened.

>> No.16095215

>>16089693
I agree. There's no cull. Nothing to see here. Western vtubing is just dying. Oh well.

>> No.16095212

>>16092970
That's what happens when you have algorithms controlling every aspect of your website

>> No.16095252

>>16094889
>>16095015
Miko doesnt decide if she moves to twitch or not

>> No.16095310

>>16095073
How am I lying when she literally implied at the very end of her Interstellar stream that she would move all of her Minecraft content to Twitch and consider moving full time then? It's clear she's the most impacted by this and knowing YouTube they'll never address it. Stop defending Susan already and learn to get with the fucking times if you want to save Hololive.

>> No.16095393

>>16095310
>Stop defending Susan already and learn to get with the fucking times if you want to save Hololive
you cant save someone that doesnt need saving. Moving to twitch would be the opposite

>> No.16095414

>>16095183
Watch the VOD and you'll hear it at the end when she's talking about future streaming plans. Especially when she implies all of her Minecraft content will be on Twitch in the foreseeable future along with many other things.
>>16095252
Yes she can.

>> No.16095483

>>16095414
Ok, show us the vod, you are the one that knows japanese here.

>> No.16095604

>>16095393
> replying to bait
ngmi

>> No.16095747

>>16095483
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1256971246
Watch the last 10 minutes of the stream. It should be there.

>> No.16095956

>>16095747
She never talks about her channel there, you sure you got the correct timestamp? I'll give you 1 last chance

>> No.16096193

>>16095956
ywnbj

>> No.16096284

>>16095956
YWNBJ

>> No.16096378

>>16095956
Just watch the whole 10 minutes of it you ADD-riddled sperg. It's literally there.

>> No.16096481

>>16095956
Your mother shouldn't have given you a chance at life.

>> No.16096508

>>16096378
I have the entire live translation script open in front of me. The move to twitch is never mentioned. Youtube is never mentioned.
You can fuck off now and have fun spreading your retarded rrat on every other thread now.

>> No.16096789

>>16096508
>translation script
jesas

>> No.16096891

>>16089693
How many viewers do YOU get on your streams, anon?

>> No.16096978

>>16096378
this shit only works on /jp/. there are actually people who understand japanese here.

>> No.16097099

I never thought of her as Susan, i just thought of her as "the jew that runs youtube'

>> No.16097430

>>16089693
worst outfit

>> No.16097560

>>16096193
>>16096284
What does the J in the end mean? Joman?

>> No.16097899

>>16090688
Retards will still deny the cull despite this.

>> No.16098455

>>16094901
It's not. This is like a 10 year old myth at this point.

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>>16089693
Anon, last year even fucking POLKA got over 80k during the outfit relay
Gura peaking at 50k is way too low.

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>>16089693

>> No.16100027

>>16089693
>1st outfit reveal 194k
>2nd outfit reveal 100k
>3rd outfit reveal 50k

>> No.16101191

>>16092524
Miko already made 100k just off her watchalongs on Twitch. She would probably do just fine moving over and telling people to member on youtube for exclusive streams.

>> No.16101618

>>16100027
>NOOO You're not a trillionaire, you're just a billionaire!

Dumb faggot.

>> No.16101660

>>16089693
https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1479778679534333957

>> No.16101817

>>16101660
Kek.

>> No.16102506

>>16089693
This is literally half of what she got on her 2nd outfit

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>>16090688
>YouTube fixes it
>The numbers on the dashboard will get culled too

>> No.16102784

>>16091135
Nigga YouTube never reduces the numbers on VODs because they want to charge their advertisers more. When it comes to paying the revenue to channel it all gets subtracted
This is why you can still see KPOP songs having absurd views despite all YouTube countermeasures

>> No.16103553

>>16097560
Japanese.

>> No.16105228

>>16102673
lmao
Wouldn't be surprised if this is exactly what happens.

>> No.16112328

>>16101660
>>16101817
ywnbj

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