Why?

[Anonymous No.]

Why does NijiEN's management prohibits it livers like Selen and Pomu from collab with Holomems such as Ollie and Kiara?
> B-but Hololi-
See picrel. Ollie can still collab with Siska

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052029
It's all Omega. He probably thinks collabing with Niji will retcon his 4deep20u loreshit that nobody cares about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052246
Then how about Ollie and Selen? It should be not a problem at least from HoloID side

[Anonymous No.]

Literally all Omega's fault.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052472
Omega got into ID manager's ear probably.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052648
That felt more like a case of bad timing due to it being really close to HoloX's debut.

[Anonymous No.]

NijiEN + HoloEN = not okay
NijiEN + HoloID = not okay
NijiID + HoloID = okay
NijiJP + HoloJP = okay
I think both NijiEN and HoloEN managers are to blame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052029
I DON'T CARE, and i'm happy whatever it is from whichever side is staying in place

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052648
>>16052477
Like how? Gita can still allow HoloID members from having a collab with NijiID. If Omegatranny really influences her, should she also prohibit them from having a collab with all Niji, not just EN?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052848
Damn EN branches are really the menance of vtuber world

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052910
NijiID isn't a threat to Omega. Only NijiEN is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052910
NijiEN scares Cover to it's core. This is why no branch wants to collab with them but they're fine with JP/ID. Pomu (and possibly Rosemi) are literal Holo rejects and they don't want her and her genmates to succeed because of that. It's real petty shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052898
Based

[Anonymous No.]

>>16053447
They fear the fairy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052029
I think it'd be nice to see Holo and Niji EN branches interact a bit. But stuff like this is just as good, since ID vtubers can really struggle sometimes, so trying to lift each other can only lead to good things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052848
I mean they seems to play safe to not collab with HoloEN becauase there's a chance some faggot whining because they collab with whores

[Anonymous No.]

If you think about the business, don't Hololive EN's and Nijisanji EN's audiences overlap heavily? That tribal shit only exists in /vt/ and about 80% of it is rp'ing.
If you let the Holo girls collab with Niji, specifically Niji EN, aren't you funelling audience to your competitor?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052029
Blame both NijiENs yellow jew manager and HoloENs tranny manager

[Anonymous No.]

>>16053530
as they should

[Anonymous No.]

>>16053447
Pomu literally mentioned failing the audition on her PL. Rosemi never once mentioned Hololive and never even followed them even back then, so I doubt it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052472
>ollie and selen
selen would talk about how she saw clips of ollies fat hands and call her a pig, then ollie will cry and call selen fat too, the stream will then be taken offline and they both take 2 week breaks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16053639
Only the girls have heavy overlap. Otherwise yes, hence why Cover is doing their best to keep the lid on Niji EN for as long as possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16053813
Imagine the sex

[Anonymous No.]

>>16053724
Miki never mentioned Tsunderia or Nijisanji in her PL either, so that doesn't mean anything.

[Anonymous No.]

It's the chinese management on NijiEN side. How is that not obvious, you absolute retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16054224
NijiEN says Taiwan is a country on stream, so it can't be Chinese management.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052029
The ban is from Holo's side, NijiID can collab with JP and ID as much as they want but their EN collab have been very limited from what anons have shown me. The only cases I've seen have been a Moona collab with her sisters and Ollie and Merryweather. Seems like Cover wants all branches to wall off the majority of EN vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16054224
Look at the Holo Mario Kart tournament, for fucks sake. The chat of every member was still swarming with chink bots. NijiEN is run by chinks. So shut the fuck up about Hololive not allowing it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16054296
Then why are NijiJP and HoloJP collabs still allowed, even when NijiJP plays chink games, and HoloJP gets chink bots?

[Anonymous No.]

no one cares nijibeggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>16053813
> Two fat girls on one streams
Architectbros... Our dream collab...

[Anonymous No.]

>>16054269

[Anonymous No.]

>>16054428
SELEN IS NOT FAT

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052029
Poor Ollie she has to pay collab fee from her pocket money

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052472
It was rescheduled, not cancelled. Though my gut tells me Troon was begging for M-san to do it

[Anonymous No.]

>>16054533
Don't worry Reimu just tell Selen I will always love her no matter how fat she is because it's better

[Anonymous No.]

>>16054520
>The one company that has a green light to collab with Hololive is the one that gets into twitter drama, has twitch whores and has members that post their political opinions on twitter.
Heh, it's pretty funny when you think about it. No offense to Vshoujo fans though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16054607
ironmouse isn't a brand risk she's literally a girl dying in her bed just trying to survive

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052029
niji EN is full of chinks that's why

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052029
Holo managers probably have no idea who Siska is and thought she s some indie KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>Selen's name
She's really taking the piss out of TTVers

[Anonymous No.]

>>16054647
Mousey is qt but isn't she the one most associated with C*nnor?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16054607
It's always funny when holokeks gloat about their isolationism and not collabing with niji "whores" whilst memory-holing the Vshitshow collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16054648
oh no no no no, don't tell him about Council bros!

[Anonymous No.]

>>16054758
Iirc the only chink in council is Bae, no?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16054810
Sana, Bae, Kronii, and IRyS since it's pointless pretending she's not just Pre-Council

[Anonymous No.]

>>16054750
Nah it's clear who blocks them from collabing with each other anon. See OP

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052029
Why does that seem more likely to you than Hololive pulling some WWE shit on NijiEN?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16054750
Eventually the girls will realize they are the reason the money's flowing in, not Troon
When the walls break down and the girls start cross collabing, i will be sure to sit in /vt/ for at least the first 3 days as Holofags backpedal and redefine their quarantines
The real treat will be when Gura collabs with a MALE

[Anonymous No.]

Just wanted to see if there was gonna be any random chink obsession in this thread for my /vt/ bingo card

[Anonymous No.]

>>16054840
> Kronii = Gook
> IRyS = Nip hafu
Don't know about Sana but since she's close with Ina I thought she's also a gook but even if she's a chink, it means both of NijiEN and HoloEN just got 2 chinks as their member

[Anonymous No.]

>>16054955
Fun fact, in spanish (americas) "Asian", is very often translated as "Chino"

[Anonymous No.]

>>16054918
> Chumkeks on mass-suicide watch
Hilarious. I will wait patiently for that moment

[Anonymous No.]

>>16054918
>Gura and Vox flirting with each other on stream
/vt/ would be unpostable for about a month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16055050
The prospect fills me with both glee and dread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16054984
It absolutely doesn't, it translates to asiatico. We're just based enough to use the "chink" equivalent without anyone batting an eye.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16054371
Because NijiJP is run by Japanese. Duh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16054984
>"Asian", is very often translated as "Chino"
no it isn't, retard
we just call all asians chinks because they all look the same anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>16055145
No, they're run by the same chinks that run NijiEN. Get your facts straight

[Anonymous No.]

>>16055261
So you're saying a Japanese company (Anycolor), that's located in Japan, focuses on the Japanese market, speaks Japanese, and has Japanese talent is run by Chinese? Are you retarded?

NijiEN is run by chinks because Nijisanji had them on hand as a go between for VirtuaReel. The chinese staff at Nijisanji speak multiple languages including English and that's why they were tasked with running NijiEN. NijiJP is run by Japanese you absolute retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16055597
VirtuaReal isn't run by Nijisanji, but rather bilibili. They just use the Nijisanji tech.
Nijisanji has plenty of English speaking staff, including NijiID staff and NijiIN staff. Some of the NijiEN Wave 1 and Wave 2 members confirmed they spoke with NijiIN staff during their interview process, so if anything it's old IN staff running EN now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052029
because they can speak Japanese and the ENs aside unfortunately from Kiara can't hold a conversation to an average Japanese person

[Anonymous No.]

>>16055881
> Only Kiara can hold a conversation with a Japanese person
Kek Bae and Ina can also do that easily and so does Mori to a lesser degree. Hell, IRyS is literally a Japanese, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>16056014
Mori can absolutely not hold a conversation, same. Ina can sorta but only basic shit. They know about as much Japanese as the JPs know english.
IRyS and Bae, sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052029
Who's prohibiting you from English lessons?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052029
EN managers are all /here/ and just as if not more schizo than your /vt/ anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052029
Because Siska means "tit" in russian

[Anonymous No.]

>>16056132
ogey

[Anonymous No.]

Ollie is damaged goods. We don't want Ollie we have Selen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052711
What the fuck does HoloX debut have to do with an ID x EN collab? I never understood this excuse

[Anonymous No.]

>NijiEN is full of c-chinks!
So is every other branch of Nijisanji, and yet Hololive collabs with them no problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>16056685
But we'll give her to you for free. Please take her.

[Anonymous No.]

Niji beggars fantasizing that Holo collab would suddenly make them relevant is pretty funny. Meanwhile NijiEN s so scared of losing Genshin Impact permissions they wouldn't touch HoloEn

[Anonymous No.]

>>16056975
Kek as retarded as it sounds, I think that's possible

[Anonymous No.]

>>16056975
Ironic considering what Ina’s roommate did

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052029
Hololive has nothing to fear from collabing with the literal 2viewers from ID and JP was well established even before hololive was a thing, EN is the only active threat they have to look out for

[Anonymous No.]

I can't wait for their collab. I enjoyed Reine-Siska collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>why Nijien management
>niji literally in a collab with a Holo both parties have to accept it.
Are Holos actually this retarded? I just find it funny that it’s the fault of the group who collabs with everyone and not the fault of the group who doesn’t collab out of their own company. The mental gymnastics are insane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16059230
It's insane isn't it? How could anyone possibly believe that NijiEN management would allow them to collab with 50 view indies, random IRL twitch stream, pro gamers, people from competiting small EN corpos, vshojo, OTV etc but not HoloEN or HoloID? Most of the outside collabs NijiEN do its the other party that stands to gain exposure from them to start with so its insanity to think they are going to block collabs with one of the main groups that actually has the bulk of the fans they want to get.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16059230
Why are Nijiniggers like this? It's clear that HoloID is different from their EN and JP counterpart as shown in OP where they don't prohibit its members from collabing with Niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>16059400
>It's clear that HoloID is different
It's still Cover, the company that wants to stay ahead in the EN environment and doesn't want to give the competition exposure. Unlike JP and ID they got into EN first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052029
Ever since the male niji debuted pomu has been drolling all over them and flirting with them in every stream. Kind of glad omega protects us from that

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052029
It goes like this:
NijiJP + HoloJP = good (because NijiJP is more popular)
NijiJP + HoloID (ahem... bootleg EN) = good (because JP audience =/= EN audience)
NijiID + HoloID (ahem... bootleg EN) = good (because ID audience =/= EN audience)
NijiEN + HoloID (ahem... bootleg EN) = bad (because EN audience = EN audience and they'll stay with NijiEN)
NijiEN + HoloEN = bad (because EN audience = EN audience and they'll stay with NijiEN)
That is clear reason of Cover blocking these collabs.
Now, can anyone provide any decent reason of Anikara blocking collabs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16053639
This anon gets it.
You could say it doesn't matter since overlappers don't really care and watch both anyway, but the real deal is, people who overlap are still a small portion of HoloEN's audience. I bet most normie holoen viewers don't even bother checking out the nijis for many reasons (or worse, they don't even know niji exists).
Now, funneling these viewers to overlap even more with NijiEN would be not ideal to say the least. But I think that what really scares Omega is the thought of letting the big spenders overlap. If you somehow let them know about this nice chick from the other company who spend a lot more time with her viewers, well, you know what comes next (e.g. Uto before she got lazy with the pandering). And you know, Hololive (and vtubing in general) stagnated, they can't afford to risk losing even more viewers. Or worse, the big whales.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052910
Holobronies: don't let Nijileech touch my oshis!!!
Also Holobronies: it's NijiEn fault Hololive didn't collab with NijiEn.

[Anonymous No.]

>Thinking about this kind of stuff when it comes to people just collabing.
Anons...did we lose the soul?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16053724
Why Pomu got rejected? She is good enough to get into HoloEN, I mean just look at council

[Anonymous No.]

Like some other anon said, this is probably just one big setup is that when they do eventually collab, they can make a whole big deal about it. "Hololive English x Nijisanji English for the first time!"
Such a collab would be exclusively hosted on the Hololive girl's channel, of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16054108
Nah she mentioned Nijisanji but mainly their talents like Sanbaka.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16060797
Because they picked the people in Myth already, so Pomu when to NijiEN.

[Anonymous No.]

Because HoloEN doesn't want to pay NijiEN's collab fee.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16061024
She could have waited until the other application round, it was like 4 months after HoloEN debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16061068
And do nothing while waiting? She got approved for nijisanji, it would be retarded to reject it only to keep grinding for hololive, kiara's pussy isn't worth this much

[Anonymous No.]

>>16053447
Rosemi Just Care about the money, she backstab the previous Company on the First chance. Holo as right to reject this girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>16060720
The soul's been gone for a long fucking time, friend

[Anonymous No.]

>>16061137
> Rosemi should stay in Tsunderia
Look, anon. As much as I respect Slugma and all the things he has done for his employees, you're really retarded if you think to stay in company that notoriously known for its bad luck is a good decision especially in a long run when at the same time you got a job offer from more stable company in the industry like Anychara

[Anonymous No.]

>>16059400
I would just like to know one time
Ina, Gura, Ame, Sana, Kronii, Mumei, Fauna, or bae collabed with Vtubers outside of or connected to Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16061333
>Ame
pipe dream

[Anonymous No.]

>>16061333
> HoloID is different from their EN and JP counterpart
> B-but EN girls
Fucking illiterate

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052029
Nijisanji charges collab fees.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16061508
Are holo girls this poor? I thought they had a fixed salary

[Anonymous No.]

>>16062200
50% profit cut after taxes. Even though it's funneled into those mandated voice, dancing, singing lessons, and of course their salary, that's still a big cut. Makes sense why Holo chuubas' biggest income come from merchs, sponsorship, and memberships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16062629
Yeah Moona just said it oh her morning stream before but honestly I was surprised since Coco said it was just 35%

[Anonymous No.]

>>16063818
YouTube takes 30% from superchat, 70% gets split half.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't care about this managerial bullshit. I just want to see Millie collab with her holoID1 friends again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16065935
>I just want to see Millie collab with her holoID1 friends again.
At this point the biggest hurdle from getting this collab to happen is not mane-chan's approval but ID1 busyness themselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052029
Good question. Go ask them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052029
Based, keep NijiEN away from everyone. They're literal bottom of the barrel roasties. Even Vshojo is better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16067100
>Based, keep NijiEN away from everyone. They're literal bottom of the barrel roasties. Even Vshojo is better.
shit bait

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052246
Its all nijisanjiEN
Pic related, why was the PomuxKiara collab banned by NijiEN? Because she wouldn't be allowed in this chink exclusive bilibili stream, proof solidifies with the fact that not a single nijisanji vtuber here has ever collabed with hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16053591
Those faggots are already whining over past lives with boyfriends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16069538
Then why was Kiara scolded and banned from calling pomu pomu on stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16069538
technically... 2 of them did even if it was indirectly on a 3rd parties channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>16069808
qrd? checked the archives and found nothing

[Anonymous No.]

>>16069863
When mocking Pomu's gingerbread house she called her "a certain forest fairy."
It's similar calling Gura "a certain shak" when Kiara gets pranked in Minecraft but in a schitzo this means Kiara was forbidden from ever saying the word "Pomu."

[Anonymous No.]

The factual events which occurred:
>Selen announces Apex collab with Ollie
>Later Selen says the collab is cancelled

The Holobrony mental gymnastics of insanity:
>NijiEN management okayed the collab and then later reversed their decision because ???

The rational interpretation of events:
>HoloID management gave the go-ahead
>Ollie lets Selen know that this is generally all it takes since ID is pretty autonomous so Selen feels comfortable announcing the collab
>HoloEN or general Holo management gets wind of the collab and vetos it

[Anonymous No.]

>>16053724
>>16060797
I thought Finana was the HL reject
Can you rratbreeders keep your fucking story straight for once

[Anonymous No.]

>>16071511
Pomu openly talked about starting up as Mint because she got rejected from hololive and wanted to gain experience before trying again, but NijiEN wasn't even a thing at that time, so it's not like she consciously chose hololive over Nijisanji. From what she said after she sounds like she probably would have picked NijiEN over holoEN if both had been open at the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16054589
""""""""""""""""""indefinitely rescheduled"""""""""""""""""""""
It's not happening.
And if I does I will go all in on Omega's twitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>Pomu auditioned for Council
>Got "accepted" but for EN3 only, not EN2
>They don't want Kiara and Pomu to collab because having them collab now, Pomu graduate months from now, and then suddenly she's in Hololive would be a very odd look for Cover themselves
>This is why the collabs are being denied

Rate my rrat

[Anonymous No.]

>>16068351
Cope nijibortion. No one likes you here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16072896
0/10, easily disproven by the fact that Selen is facing the same issue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16071139
t. Someone who knows nothing about Hololive but pretends he does

[Anonymous No.]

>>16072952
Selen got accepted to EN3 too

Simple explanation

[Anonymous No.]

>>16072982
Why would Selen even apply to hololive when she makes more than the council in SC

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052029
Considering what happened with Kiara there is probably a higher management mandate that does not allow collab with NijiEN.

You can't really compare HoloJP vs NijiJP and HoloEN vs NijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>16069538
>>16069810
and this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16073053
Even more money

[Anonymous No.]

>>16072896
>Council auditions started after Lazulight dropped
>Implying Cover would miss the chance to poach another Niji in favor of picking up *insert boring Council bitch here*

[Anonymous No.]

>>16071139
If it's central management that vetoed it, I can see that but what EN management has to do with whatever the hell is ID doing though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16073472
I mean they had the chance to make Enna their vsinger but let her go to niji instead

[Anonymous No.]

Visual representation as to why this collab isn't happening, to make it easier

[Anonymous No.]

>>16073895
Omegatranny hates Kiara and Manager-san hates Pomu?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16072982
>chinks ever being accepted into hololive
You are a funny guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>16074280
Yes.
But I don't know shit about Niji management I only watch Pomu's recent shit so I
don't know how Niji actually works. But It's clear Omega (EN management) has SOME distain against Kiara since she goes against them at every opportunity

[Anonymous No.]

>>16073751
She never had a chance to begin with, her only "chance" was getting into HoloID3 never into EN
Unlike Nijisanji Hololive isnt retarded enough to only have 1 single streamer be a native english speaker out of 15 people

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052029
They're saving all the holox NijiEN collabs for COOM man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16074398
I heard Enna was a finalist for project hope but IRyS got picked because she lives in Japan and speaks Japanese despite Enna being the better singer

[Anonymous No.]

>majority of Niji EN audience is holotourists
>pretty much every western fan is aware of hololive but nijiEN is more obscure
>nijiEN has reached a point where they are gaining much more traction and hololive wants to impede their growth since EOPs are the reason they went viral
>nijiID and nijiJP pander to EOPs much less than the respective hololive branches so they aren't as worried about losing viewers to them

[Anonymous No.]

>>16074597
At this point I think it's obvious the nijiEN side are the ones blocking it and not the holoEN side.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16074651
That's the opposite of what I'm trying to point out

[Anonymous No.]

>>16074336
It was direct EN management that gave Pomu the OK to use her fanmade 3D model, while upper management shot it down. If Niji management had any role at all in blocking EN collabs it was probably upper management (and even then you get obvious contradictions).

[Anonymous No.]

>>16074695
It's way more believable that Pomu's fanmade 3D stream was cancelled to maintain the impact of the Selen-Rosemi-Pomu chibi 3D collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16074763
No it's not. It's a branding thing. They don't want people to see fanmade models as representative of the company's own 3D technology. The chibis are different enough to where it's less of an issue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16071511
Finana and Pomu both applied to Hololive EN Gen 1 and did not make it due to lack of content creation experience. Beyond that we don't know if any of the others did, or if anyone applied for Gen 2 or Vsinger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16074573
Shes also a flip living in flipland which isnt allowed in holoEN
The voices in your head telling you otherwise dont count for anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052029
Holo JP and Niji JP are both well-known and successful in Japan, the is basically universal market awareness of both in the Japanese vtuber sphere. Niji ID is more or less irrelevant internationally and is known locally in Indonesia. Niji EN lacks significant market awareness , it needs more exposure and advertising. Collabs with any Hololive branch are free exposure to a direct rival to Holo EN. That means nobody will be collabing with Niji EN, likely from any branch of Hololive for the foreseeable future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16074842
You do not seem to know anything about Niji EN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16074902
>t-t-they dont want to g-g-give exposure to rivals!
>collabs with vshojo(2 times)
>collabs with music groups
>collabs with a indie group from twitch
uhuh...

[Anonymous No.]

>>16074970
Do you not remember the direct result of the first couple vshojo collabs and why they never did it again after?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16074970
Western market is aware of vshojo, they're not giving them any exposure that wasn't already there. If you watch one and not the other you probably aren't going to change your mind because of a collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16075005
I need you to tell me more anon
https://twitter.com/ironmouse/status/1435103767356186626?s=21

[Anonymous No.]

>>16075022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yejq__1Uaf8
Please anon, I need to hear more of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16061099
>>16061068
>>16061024
Wasn't it she didn't apply for Myth in time, but was still rejected because she didn't have any experience Vtubing, and when she actually started, Nijisanji opened auditions and she got in?

[Anonymous No.]

The average NijiEN fan is aware of hololive but the average holobrony is completely clueless about Nijisanji or other vtuber groups outside of their bubble. Hololive does not want to give them exposure. Irrelevant SEAniggers collabing play no part in this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16074970
Vshoujo are on a different platform with almost no overlap, Niji EN's existing audience is almost entirely drawn from former or current Hololive EN watchers (except for wave 4's audience and some of Selen/Petra/Nina's audience). Even then, it took like a year of talent pushing for it internally and they've done a grand total of 3 Vshoujo collabs even after it was approved. Eventually to be 4 with Risu appearing on Ironmouse's show.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16072897
vshojo is worse than anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>16075182
>>16075291
I wonder why they are only sending the SEAniggers to leech from Vshojo now. Where is the Gura x Vshojo collab, holobronies? They know it's all a popularity game and won't allow their more popular talents to collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16074791
> Finana and Pomu both applied to Hololive EN Gen 1 and did not make it due to lack of content creation experience
Ahahaha those fucking retarded managers. Turn away literal gold just because they didn’t have a resume. Imaging Finana and Pomu in Myth rather than Kiara and Calli. Kino would have been achieved.
It’s so fucking boring that they require past experience now. Never get an oddball surprise like Subaru (or evidently Pomu given how quickly she found success as a vtuber).

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052029
Hololive only stand to lose by allowing collabs with NijiEN. Most of their viewership is already made up of Hololive viewers and giving them any kind of exposure is just going to continue potentially siphoning oil barons from Hololive.
Westerners barely watch NijiID because only a few of them like Hana, Bon and Mika actually speak English regularly, so there's significantly less of a chance of viewers jumping ship.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16075725
Basically they don't want to make the same mistake as NijiJP did in 2019. They should've blocked hololeech collabs too and now they're paying the price.

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>>16075385
Gura has no interest in collabing with Vshoujo.

Here's who follows Vshoujo on twitter:

Ironmouse- ID2, Mori, Kiara, Moona, Polka
Nyanners- Ollie, Mori, Kiara
Silvervale- Ollie, Mori, Reine, Kiara, Ame
Froot- ID2, Mori, Kiara, Polka
Vei- Mori, Ollie, Kiara
Hime- Mori, Ollie

Ina, Gura, IRyS, and Council do not follow any Vshoujo. Ame only follow Silver because they knew each other back in the day on twitch.

Niji EN:
Pomu- ID2, Mumei, Fauna, Bae, Ame, Kiara, Mori, Polka Moona
Elira- M/F/B, Mori, Kiara, Reine, Ollie, Moona, Polka
Finana- Mumei, Fauna, Reine, Moona, Ollie, Mori, Kiara, Polka
Selen- M/F/B, Ollie, Reine, Moona, Polka, Ame
Petra- Mumei, Fauna, Kiara, Mori, Moona, Reine, Ollie
Rosemi- Literally no one
Enna- Mumei, Fauna, Mori, Kiara, Ollie, Polka, Moona
Millie- Mumei, Fauna, ID2, Kiara, Mori, Polka, Moona
Nina- Mumei, Fauna, Ollie, Polka
Reimu- Mumei, Fauna, Ollie, Kiara, Mori, Polka, Moona
Shu, Luca, Mysta- No one
Ike- Ollie
Vox- Ollie Mori

[Anonymous No.]

>>16076286
I also forgot Melody was a thing:

Melody-Ollie, Polka, Coco

[Anonymous No.]

>>16076286
>>16076413
based Polka

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>>16075620
Mori's been a massive success for Cover, replacing her with uh...Finana? would have been literally retarded. Kiara and Pomu swap I could see, but then you don't have a fluent JP speaker in Myth since Pomu's JP is kind of dogshit. Also it's hard to be able to predict what kind of streamer someone is gonna be when they haven't streamed a day in their life and haven't created any other content either, that's too big a risk for the flagship EN gen.

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>>16076286
Gura also doesn't follow anyone not related to hololive in her account despite letting the fact that she watched Vox's debut slip. Pure coincidence I'm sure and it's totally not Cover treating her like a toy that must not be shared with other people under any circumstances.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16076286
If nothing else this pretty much confirms management is preventing a NijiEN x HoloEN collab. Idk which side is responsible, but I wish they would let it happen to shut tribalfags up for a bit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16076572
Is there any actual evidence of this or is it just "they both mentioned The Lorax on the same day" thing?

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>>16076455
Polka's the only JP I know that really gives a shit about western streamers. I followed her specifically to see who she followed. I also follow Haachama, Pekora, and Coco, Coco follows Melody only the other two don't follow anyone. If there are other JPs that follow anyone in Vshoujo or Niji EN I don't know of them. It's possible Iofi and Risu follow some of them but I do not care enough about those two to bother following them for the purpose of this.

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>>16074842
>Shes also a flip living in flipland
retard, she's a canadian chink

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>>16076286
What's even more funny, everyone in Myth, IRyS, and Council follows everyone in Holostars. Everyone except...Gura who doesn't follow a single one of them.

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>>16077149
It's a calculated move by Cover. They don't want to take any risks. Gura simped for Izuru's voice before.

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>>16076286
>Silverdale
Based Reine

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>>16076286
>The only vshojo Kiara doesn't follow is Hime
>Hime knows Mori outside of vtubing
>The "Hime"/"Mori" collab
Hmmmm

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>>16074296
> There's no way chink would ever get accepted into Hololive
KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>16085676
She's cantonese, which the bugs want genocided as such she cannot count as a chink.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16076286
Rosemi...

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>>16069538
that's literally the only time overidea is even relevant, and there are better reasons Hololive isn't participating this year, namely China not wanting anything to do with them and that they're too big and good to even bother nowadays

[Anonymous No.]

>>16085676
so is Selen

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>>16074789
>The chibis are different enough to where it's less of an issue.
They really aren't, selen explained they were instructed to make it very clear that they came from a personal project lead by her and are not official Nijisanji EN models, which is also why she's allowed to share them publicly

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>>16093096
yeah but i imagine if they were too close to actual "normal" models management would just tell her no

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>>16093251
I wouldn't be so sure, also I don't think pomu ever went into details of what issue she had with the vrchat karaoke, but now with the chibi model I think the chances of her using the other model would be zero regardless

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>>16076286
>Rosemi- Literally no one
I kneel

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>>16085869
If you go by that definition then nobody in NijiEN is chink, anon. Perhaps if you want to strech it up a little bit then you can count Petra as chink but even then she's a from Hongkong which CCP also want to genocide and replace its current inhabitants with their own brainwashed bugs
>>16092237
Who are you quoting?

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>>16094126
Exactly anon, unless they are CCP supports they do not count as a Zhang.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16061068
>wait to possibly be in Council
>with two picks already going to Ina's friends
you gotta seize opportunities, and Niji gave her one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16052971
should've stayed away from the west.

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>>16056702
You clearly missed the entire context. I mean the SelenxOllie collab that was canned was awfully close to HoloX's debut date which could be possible reason for it to be canned since that debut was a huge event for Cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16060797
At that time, fairy had no experience. She too k matters in her own hands and became independent to get over that requirement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16059763
what stream??? holofags will bullshit their way to make it sound like niji is shit LMAOO

[Anonymous No.]

>>16059763
The only thing Pomu has been drooling over is cyberdemon cake.

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>>16052910
/vt/ is obsessed with the tranny and tries to blame everything on him even when it makes literally no sense such as when talking about a completely unrelated branch
The ones blocking holo collabs with NijiEN is the NijiEN management

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>>16116004
It's upper Cover management from Japan not wanting to have their stranglehold on the EN scene wrested from them on YouTube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16059763
Isn't Pomu a carpet muncher?

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>>16076625
Its 1 braindead schizoid that had a meltdown on his stream claiming gura delayed her stream to watch his debut
Check the archive for the thread, its pretty hilarious how the seanig also outs himself by posting his timezone

[Anonymous No.]

>>16076286
Rosemi is soon going to collab with Pikamee and Ironmouse

[Anonymous No.]

>>16076286
Shu, Luca and Mysta are super based

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>>16076286
anon.. where's iofi?

[Anonymous No.]

Nobody has any direct evidence to prove who's responsible for the lack of NijiEN - HoloEN collabs. At best we get assumptions based on total circumstance and at worst we get schizo rrats based on personal feelings.

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>>16072896
>This is why the collabs are being denied
Shitty rrat but you are close. Pomu getting rejected for Council and then collabing with Kiara not even a year later would just be embarrassing for Cover. They probably expected her to go on to be some 2view indie like the rest of their rejects and not an actual competitor so Omega is probably salty about that. If they allowed an Oliie/Selen collab you just know how Kiara would be bitching until the heat death of the universe on how it's not far that she never got her collab, so Cover's waiting for the dust to settle first.

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>>16052472
The Selen and Ollie collabs lined up with Council/HoloX's debuts. The ID management probably didn't know those were coming when they approved it, and then had to walk it back.
>>16072799
It's not like Hololive's been shy about outright shutting down the collabs, like with Kiara. If it was just an outright no-go I feel like they'd say that instead of "Had to reschedule, but eventually". And if it was NijiEN side then still, even if Selen wouldn't straight up say "Mane-san cancelled it" (although I really think she would), she'd probably still say if it was cancelled in general.
>>16052029
As with most rrats on this board, this requires you to look at the "evidence" but fail to ask "Why the fuck would they do that when they have no reason to, and in fact it actively harms them".
Legitimate schizophrenia.
>The government is monitoring me and leaving clues in TV broadcasts
>Why would they do that? And why would they monitor me in the first place?
>Why does that matter?
>ARE YOU WORKING FOR THEM!?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16061312
>Slugma
>he
Anon...

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>>16054268
Yeah
>Members refer to Taiwan as a country
>Literal "Free HK" supporter in her past life in the branch
>Controlled by China though
Really makes you think...

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>>16056702
>We don't want an anticipated collab with an out-of-company vtuber drawing attention away from debuts
Makes sense to me

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>>16075256
From what I understand it was
>Applied to Hololive because they were the first EN corpo to open auditions
>Rejected because of no resume
>Debuted as Mint to get experience
>Nijisanji opened auditions
>Jumped on that because she'd prefer Nijisanji anyway
>Got in
Feel free to remove "because she'd prefer Nijisanji anyway" if you think that's cope or whatever, but aside from that I think that's accurate

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>>16120768
Based kiara. I love whenever she shittalks about the management

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>>16069538
>proof solidifies with the fact that not a single nijisanji vtuber here has ever collabed with hololive.
Literally untrue, and I'm 99% sure you know that because I've replied to this shit before

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>>16074398
>Enna
>HoloID
???????

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>>16121323
Debut for a japanese branch that EOPs don't even watch

[Anonymous No.]

>>16120768
Pomu auditioned for gen 1, not gen 2. She was already accepted into NijiEN by gen 2 auditions

[Anonymous No.]

Why the fuck myth have to do a collab with nijiEN again? Are there merit for myth? Or even council?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16128505
Because Kiara wants to collab

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>>16052029
obviously NijiJP isn't a threat to Hololive like NijiEN could be to HoloEN

[Anonymous No.]

it's sad, I just want a collab of a fairy and an orange woman, isn't that too much to ask

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>>16126063
EOPs do watch debuts, and even if most EN fans don't watch JP they still make up a notable percentage of the JP branch viewership.

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>>16128505
It's not about "have" to. It's that they WANT to, but are being blocked. Which is retarded, just let them do what they want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16129316
This. Imagine how kino the collab will be. Both of NijiEN and HoloE management really need to stop prohibit their members from having a collab with each other

[Anonymous No.]

I would bet its the China problem blocking it. Niji wants NijiEN to collab with VirtuaReal and/or restream to Bilibili.
Letting them collab with HoloEN would compromise that and potentially open them to a flood of schizo chink spammers that still to this day are spamming any channel that has Fubuki on it, and sometimes just pick a random hololive channel to spam.

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>>16133486
Then why the fuck can nijijp collab with holojp retard.

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>>16121812
collabs from before Taiwan don't count.

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>>16133620
Because they have previous association of collabing without problems, and they arent collabing with the "evil american" holos or any of the ones the chinese now hate.

How many of those that collab with Holos still interact with VirtuaReal at all, or restream/stream to Bilibili?

One of the prime reasons the entire Coco situation exploded was because everyone knew she was american.

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>>16075384
False, Pomu and Selene are far worse.

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>>16133776
It was very specifically her being American in the JP branch. They don't care if EN branch members are American, never have. I guess the ones who care find it easier to ignore that whole branch than an American in JP.
That said, Niji members don't get backlash from Holo collabs, or from acknowledging Taiwan, or from anything like that. I think it's only Bilibili Holofags that can be bothered to go full schizo there, so Niji livers are safe.
Because to be clear, multiple NijiEN members have acknowledged Taiwan on the EXACT same level as Coco did, and there has been absolutely 0 backlash. Even with one of them being Petra, who got in trouble in her past life for supporting the HK riots.
It simply does not matter.

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>>16134064
Management might think it does though, and thus they block it.
What will actually happen and what management think will happen can and often are two entirely separate things.

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>>16134160
If they cared that much they'd stop them from talking about Holomem so much, and also, you know, tell them they shouldn't mention Taiwan. Unless you're suggesting Management would believe that Holo collabs are more likely to get them hate than actually directly talking about Taiwan as a country.

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I've figured it out. It's not ACTUALLY Hololive blocking these collabs. NijiEN, Tsunderia, CyberLive, Phase, Kawaii, Prism and all those groups and indies decided to ban Hololive from ever collabing with them.

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>>16134614
It would be unbelievably based if all of the other EN vtuber companies joined together to put a collab embargo on Hololive, but that would never happen.

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>>16134614
Kek it would be funny if that's indeed the case or actually it just those chuubas who are too shy to ask Holomems to have a collab

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>>16074902
That was some Olympic level mental gymnastics there anon