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>> No.16046455
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>> No.16046483

My poor coyote...

>> No.16046528

NUMBAZZZ

>> No.16046624

Do we really need this thread during a fluked Niji gold stream propped with their obvious nip viewbots? There's no point and I can't stand their larpers.

>> No.16046643

>>16045509
Guerilla

>> No.16046700

>>16046624
Fucking no one cares about golds anymore.

>> No.16046747

>>16046455
lol the drawing phase had more people than the actual tournament

>> No.16046792

>>16046747
That really goes to show you that this is fucked

>> No.16046795

>>16046455
>Niji clean sweep of gold, silver and bronze
We did it bros. Niji back on top!

>> No.16046829

>>16046624
I haven't seen people shitpost about golds in days

>> No.16046852

>>16046795
Pomu bronze, gay elf guy silver, good day.

>> No.16046886

>>16046455
>40k
What did they get last year?

>> No.16046904

>>16046829
Even most of the trolls fucked off.

>> No.16046910

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5yfM_UlucY
this got to 1M btw, is this good or bad

>> No.16046919

>>16046886
86k

Also Kanae just joined and the numbers went down.

>> No.16046934

>>16046700
>>16046829
Here's one on the ready lmfao >>16046795
No one fucking cares

>> No.16046962

>>16046643
Matsuri was outside the box for so long that she managed to avoid the infection.

It's like she was quarantined.

>> No.16046970

>>16046919
>86k
oof, the cull is insane.

>> No.16047015

>>16046910
Bad, with Kiara buff it should be at 10M already.

>> No.16047051

>>16046829
>still caring about gold
YT ccv right now should be treated the same as Bilibili's engagement points or whatever it's called. Literally a fantasy metric.

>> No.16047080

>>16046910
Faster than her Vampire cover

>> No.16047107

Ame is at 5k now for Minecraft.
A month ago, even the most guerilla Ame Minecraft at midnight can get 8k at least.

Lets see if she gets there today.

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Myth actually having trouble really pushing past their waiting rooms today, when usually you'd expect them to nearly double their waiting rooms when it comes to peak CCV.

>> No.16047343

>>16047107
Could swear she had Apex listed, wonder how many people saw that and just went to bed instead.

>> No.16047359

>>16047286
Good. This is what we want. It needs to get as bad as possible and spread to as many channels as possible.

>> No.16047397

>>16047343
Other way around is more likely, Ame Minecraft is more popular than Ame Apex.

>> No.16047414

>>16047286
Are we ready for a bunch of 30-40k outfit reveals?

>> No.16047455

>>16047397
That's what I mean, people saw the Apex and just went to sleep since it's midnight, not knowing she was gonna swap it to MC.

>> No.16047464

>>16046910
I believe that's faster than tabi no tochuu by just a few hours, and faster than most of Kiara's other songs as well.
So yeah, pretty good.

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>>16047286
What the fuck is this, rumao

>> No.16047478

>>16047414
Give it a year or two, if nothing is done I genuinely believe we will be seeing sub 5k outfit reveals by mid 2023.

>> No.16047507

>>16047414
Anon, they're not gonna break 30k, except maybe Gura. This timeslot is unironically absolutely HORRIBLE for everyone but Euros, who don't fucking watch streams. Even if it's a weekend, viewing habitsnand culling and whatnot mean for sure these are gonna be the worst numbers for outfits for EN. Ever.

>> No.16047541

>>16047414
Well it already happened with HoloX and Nene's new year outfits

>> No.16047566

>>16047469
That, is jank goodsir (probs people who tuned in after the waiting room transition)

>> No.16047626

>>16047507
Eh numbers are fucked anyways so w/e.
Gura already got one of her worst peaks of all time today despite her other metrics being relatively the same so VODs should be solid at least.

>> No.16047648

anons, i think i caught ccvid
my enthusiasm can't reach the start of the day these days

>> No.16047654
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It's inclining. Maybe it can get to 60k since it keeps going up after every game.

>> No.16047691

Disguised Toast streaming Death Note while having 35K viewers kek

>> No.16047904

>>16047286
They got infected from the MK tournament. A lot of HoloJP fans must've checked them out especially Gura

>> No.16048043

>>16047691
They're playing a very dangerous game, these idiots on Twitch are. Pokimane already ate a ban since she streamed Avatar (tv show), and Viacom doesn't mess around when it comes to DMCA shit. All it takes is someone deciding to go after the streamers themselves for pulling this shit and it all comes tumbling down, tumbling down tumbling down...

>> No.16048078

>>16047654
I'm actually surprised the waiting room was so small this year.
Even last year, they got a 92k peak for the prelims and if there's no cull, there should be a 20-40% increase like their other events.

>> No.16048112

>>16047691
who owns deat note now days?

>> No.16048116

>>16047654
They took a break or something, went down to 32k.

>> No.16048135

>>16046354
better not be making my princess cry

>> No.16048146

Let's say Twitch by a big copyright lawsuit and is forced to put up contentID whether it is music and videos, what content are they gonna do afterwards? Would Gaming be a thing again or would Amouranth/bath tub meta be the next big thing?

>> No.16048153

>>16047286
It's actually hilarious that this is really getting worse and worse like this.

>> No.16048166

>>16048043
As long as they don't get permabanned, they don't care.
It's like a couple days of break to them.

Not the same as how 3 strikes on YouTube terminates your channel.

>> No.16048185

>>16048116
Yes.
Maybe as the time zones get better the peak will balloon up to the 90k~ it should get. It's 2PM in Japan right now on a Saturday.

>> No.16048195

https://twitter.com/tokoyamitowa/status/1479669255998443525
Towa will infect Noah (VSPO) even more

>> No.16048248

>>16047691
>calls out streamers for copyrighted watchalongs
>proceeds to do the same

>> No.16048263

Holy fuck mahjong is not gonna Beat Towa's peak at this point

>> No.16048280

>>16048248
>>calls out streamers for copyrighted watchalongs
no way motherfuer streamed 100 episode of naruto

>> No.16048300

>>16047286
Holy shit it's unironically getting worse, gura got a lower peak than dbd despite the mk8 tourney buff

>> No.16048327

>>16048263
it already did but not by much

>> No.16048329

Enter Kuzuha, surely he will boost the numbers.

>> No.16048342

>>16048043
Afaik, they're testing the DMCA limitations. REALLY dumb move since they'll null the most powerful zatsudan in existance.

>> No.16048395

I like how the cull is getting worse and anons think some canned replies from the YT support bot means they're looking into it

>> No.16048417

>>16048342
I think twitch streamers are gonna be rightfully fucked by copyright whether they test the waters or not

>> No.16048424

>>16048146
Same as youtube, since they'd be under more or less the same circumstances. Maybe they'd find some other kind of content to be mostly filler. Maybe they'll just react to stuff offscreen. Maybe twitch will better support VODs once they aren't burdened with 90% of people violating copyright for their content, and people won't feel compelled to stream for 12 hours a day.

>> No.16048440

>>16048342
The dumb fuck Toast isn't testing shit, despite what his greasy face spouts off about. He, and all these live streamers on Twitch, just want to be lazy and thought they hit the jackpot. Now they are about one strike away from assfucking the whole platform, all while YouTube is shitting itself too.

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I thought nips gave up but they haven't replied with "its a feature now" and it has been like 3 days since they were looking into it, looking good numberbros

>> No.16048488

>>16048342
Technically they should've been fucked a long time ago for dmca so good riddance Imo.

>> No.16048525

>>16048112
Viz Media has the rights in NA. >>16048116
As I said, all fun and games until you see 'xQc being sued for millions in damages by Fox/Disney' in the headlines, and yes they could go for the streamers themselves for money if they were so inclined. These aren't some small dudes streaming to a few hundred people making barely enough to Austin themselves, these are people making millions of bucks a year, where the cost to take them to court could be justified by any company feeling frisky enough to go for it.
If these chuckleheads at the top on Twitch continue, it's only a matter of time before Disney or someone who doesn't give a rats ass about bad publicity takes the first shot.

>> No.16048531

>>16048395
Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. I don't think they want to see an out of control process destroy their entire livestreaming market.

>> No.16048611

>>16047478
If nothing is done in a mid 2022 even, the only ones left on YouTube will be contract streamers and bots.

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pretty sure this is intentional, when Kuzuha started his stream, main channel lost 7k and kuzuha gained around that
still, doesn't mean anything but the correlation, because in reality this could have been a 14k swap

>> No.16048627

>>16048473
Kek

>> No.16048673

>>16048342
They're being idiots. Nothing's stopping Viacom and company from suing them (the streamer) directly without even a C&D

>> No.16048687

>>16048481
I wish I shared your blind optimism

>> No.16048715

>>16048525
Rumao, didn't Gordo tweet him about masterchef? I think Ramsay's fine with it since he'll also be streaming another cooking show in Twitch.

Man I wish Hololive chuubas also get the same privileges these guys have. Imagine Pekora reatcing to Masterchef and Hell's Kitchen.

>> No.16048804

>>16048715
> I think Ramsay's fine with it
fox wont be. They will use xqc to promote the show but now that they know they arent gonna let him go and do what he does without permission.

>> No.16048827

>>16048715
Doesn't matter unless Gordon Ramsey owns the entire suite of commercial and intellectual rights to the series, which is highly unlikely.

>> No.16048839

Am I really to believe that out of all the autistic numberfag weeaboos here there's not a single person who has worked for a FAANG company as a software dev? There absolutely has to be and they should be able to shed some light on how the dev cycles work and what their evaluation of this situation is.

>> No.16048840

>>16048715
Do they even know gordon in JP? I know astel didn't even know who he was based on their recent mk stream with ollie and anya. Also wonder what gordon sounds like in JP since nips love their dubs

>> No.16048850

>>16048473
I want to die

>> No.16048917

>>16048617
pretty much all this says is that, every viewer that is already verified and not considered a bot, can swap without losses

>> No.16048932

>>16048840
I doubt they do but imagine their reactions to insults.

>> No.16048961

>>16048840
Haachama likes him

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>>16047654
>only 16k waiting, 42k peak
nijibros what happened?

>> No.16048982

>>16048804
>>16048827
Ramsay is probably using xQc, Hasan and the streamers to promote his upcoming cooking show for free. That or face millions in sues.

>> No.16049007

>>16048839
I did but Netflix wasn't part of it back when I did it.

>> No.16049021

>>16048979
this would have been an easy 100k, main channel is normalfag central and pretty sure those are the only ones being counted right now

>> No.16049029

>>16048839
code freees before holidays to vavoid emergency changes.
whatever they put in is probbaly JUST being looking at this or next week where they unfreeze the code.

>> No.16049039

>>16048839
I'm a software dev but I'm in the defense industry. It's an entire different ballgame. All this is perplexing me unless it's intentional.

>> No.16049068

>>16048979
stop using bots

>> No.16049092

>>16048982
Ramsay is pretty internet marketing savvy (or his PR guy is, at least), I wouldn't doubt it.

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>>16048979
44.7k waiting 108k peaked

>> No.16049101

>>16048481
I already got used to the new numbers

>> No.16049111

>>16047286
It's unironically over for Yagoo and his botfarm.

>> No.16049122

>>16049021
It's on the main channel though...

Also Kuzuha is likely to lose.

>> No.16049125

>>16048917
Until they get flagged again, I guess. At least we get some hope that if they fix the problem, accounts wont stay perma flagged.

>> No.16049169

>>16048979
considering last years was an 86k and their new years stream demonstrated they got more tourists, this is actually wild
main niji channel definitely caught the ccvid by now

>> No.16049184

>>16048979
Is this mahjong tournament sponsored? If it is, this could be bad for them

>> No.16049187

>>16048979
That's a excellent ratio

>> No.16049212

>>16047286
At the rate Gura's chugging her Karaoke will be below 20k..

>> No.16049217

The cull is in Yahoo news and almost everyone who watch streams knows about it, how the fuck YouTube still didn't do anything about it

>> No.16049221

>>16049092
His PR guy is pretty good, but he has his own limitations, Twitch streamers meanwhile...

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>>16046455
Niji gold

>> No.16049279

>>16049212
20k? Try 15K

>> No.16049289

>>16049169
This event is not one day, makes me wonder if the final two rounds will have an even lower peak.

>> No.16049306

>>16049169
Let's see if the NijiJP's metrics degrade faster after this event, then.

>> No.16049307

>>16049217
Give link

>> No.16049346

>>16049184
It is sponsored. Nijisanji can just show them the real numbers later.

>> No.16049355

>>16048440
Never watch this dude but I thought he was doing a watch party like with miko. Didn’t expect him to actually show the episode for everyone to see. Kinda surprise his ass didn’t get copyright strike yet or sued. How is this allowed on twitch?

>> No.16049370

>>16048342
DMCA is the least of their problems, rights holders can skip that and go straight to a lawsuit, and if someone willfully violates copyright and makes a significant profit, they can be criminally charged.

>> No.16049417

>>16049346
I kind of wish more Vtubers would show us the real numbers too. I’m sure the difference is getting worse each day

>> No.16049430

>>16049355
It isn't but Twitch lets it slide because all their admins like sucking each others' dick. They've learned nothing from their first DMCAgeddon where everyone pretty much deleted all their VODs to avoid copyright takedowns.

>> No.16049435

>>16048839
Sorry, just an accountant here. I like numbers but dunno anything about software

>> No.16049438

>>16049370
they wont sue an individual is a waste of time.Is better to tell the platfrom to stop.
is like when music companies tried to sue the persons pirating insteead of just suin napster and shit.

>> No.16049454

>>16048839
sorry I'm autistic but in a bioinformatics way

>> No.16049466

>>16049169
It's already been obvious with nijinoon

>> No.16049502

>>16048979
the bots are down, its over...

>> No.16049506

>>16049355
It's not allowed, but the onus is on rights holders to stomp it out. Twitch should act preemptively themselves to avoid a shitshow - they have the right to police all content on their platform in their Terms of Service - but Twitch are both lazy and incompetent.

>> No.16049515

>>16049169
niji had more (non-logged) tourists watching them.

>> No.16049573

>>16049438
These streamers are millionaires and are easy to identify. It's not like some random uploading a torrent on free wifi and you need to pry their personal info out of their roommate's ISP.

>> No.16049590

>>16049430
>>16049506
Would be hilarious if this dude get sued and he cries and claim it was fair used. He is probably doing this to increase his fanbase.

>> No.16049597

>>16049502
>both Cover and Niji bots get banned
>both end up making record profits thanks to no longer being in a bot arms race
This is literally what happened when the government banned tobacco advertisements btw

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damn, denied silver for the silverboi

>> No.16049603

>>16048839
I work for gaming company as support and usually when they make some software fucky wucky of this caliber they have us immediately release a statement to make sure everyone knows we're on it.
But we're a minnow compared to the google leviathan.

>> No.16049614

>Ame only getting 1k more than Kiara in Minecraft
Wasn't there a bigger gap between them? Are all of the new Koreans saving Kiara's CCV since they're not effected yet?

>> No.16049647

>>16049506
I'm not sure if it's laziness or the fact that a content ID like system would be prohibitively expensive for twitch. ContentID only It works on YT because it's profitable enough for the record/media companies. That's because youtube has good ad revenue because with prerecorded videos you can target ads well. Meanwhile twitch makes a lot less from ads. They are going to force the streamers to handle DMCA issues for as long as they can because it's the much cheaper for twitch to let streamers occasionally get dicked in the ass than dealing with the rights holders.

>> No.16049681

>>16049614
Bad timeslot and Kiara streamed at a good timeslot for once. This timeslot is never really good for views.

>> No.16049688

>>16049614
usually, yes, but there's a few factors involved here
> ame promised doom eternal today, not mc
> couldn't play doom, so went for apex, w11 made that impossible
> swapped last second to MC without a plan
this turned down quite some people, but still, she used to get +10k in this time slot when she was in the MC creativity arc, so yeah, she's not doing as well

>> No.16049699

>>16049647
>it's the much cheaper for twitch to let streamers occasionally get dicked in the ass than dealing with the rights holders
I don't understand how that's a viable strategy, surely the rights holders have an easy case against Twitch itself in these cases?

>> No.16049713

>>16049614
Both are getting fucked by the cull.
Kiara's Minecraft today was her worst one, 3000 less than her MC stream a month ago.

Ame's Minecraft is usually at least 8k, but she's been stalling at 5k for an hour now despite her likes rising by 5k.

>> No.16049747

>>16049688
10k+ was before the cull.

>> No.16049775

https://twitter.com/Fwiz?t=8LcuuNbM205iwJia3urGkQ&s=09
Fwiz is our last hope, he is probably going to tweet today or tomorrow when he does that someone should reply to him about the cull and we go and spam that tweet with every screenshot we have.
If you want your number back he's the one.

>> No.16049792

>>16049602
Gura's the new silverqueen it seems

>> No.16049801

>>16049699
Beats me I'm not a copyright lawyer but they probably employ a few.

>> No.16049803

>>16049688
>this turned down quite some people
LMAO no, her Minecraft is much more popular than her Doom numbers and even her Apex numbers.

Gura got 11k today playing Mario Kart, EN is not exempt from the cull.

>> No.16049841

>>16049775
Interesting statement by him that most people watch VODs:
https://twitter.com/Fwiz/status/1478736021428879369?s=20

>> No.16049885

>>16049803
EN was exempt from the last cull.

>> No.16049888

>>16049803
But Gura was also doing a guerilla (which boggles the mind since it's probably like, her 4th). Not saying she's not exempt form the cull, just keep that in mind.

>> No.16049896

>>16049688
Ame's been getting 3-5k viewers for months now

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>>16049803
and it's really really stupid, they have HUGE numbers on unique viewers in their streams

>> No.16049906

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAyw_7eroCg
Might be of interest to some of you, basically echoing the sentiments before the current era of susanpocaplyse where artists and creatives will do work for free just because of the Holo name attached to it

>> No.16049934

>>16049841
This is clearly not the case for Hololive. Stream VODs usually tack on an extra 10-20% views over the 2 weeks after they're streamed and then stop.

>> No.16049968

>>16049896
Only after the cull. Can't factor in watchalongs, SC readings, or her oblivion streams since those always get low numbers. There's a reason why Ame isn't known as a numberfag because she doesn't mind her statistical average going down by doing debuff stuff unlike the others.

>> No.16050011

>>16049614
its time you fags to admit kiara is the strongest holo.
>euro block
>no box pushing
>no en member feeding her views
>flagged account (deleted for "bot abuse")
>paid members flagged as bots
she's had the weighted training bands under her own personal cull this whole time.

>> No.16050023

>>16049905
keep in mind there's a ton of people that never drop a message in chat, 120k is an absurd amount for any metric related to people

>> No.16050027

>>16049905
Bro, this is outdated by 3 months and when Council were still fairly new.

>> No.16050043

>>16049647
They don't even need to program Content ID. They can just manually suspend the big creators streaming copyrighted content for TOS violations, there can't be more than two dozen of them. Yes it is in fact within their rights to do this. If the creators repeat, suspend again, then move to appealable bans. That would nip the entire problem in the bud before the entire platform gets mired in a lawsuit on this issue.

>> No.16050062

>>16049896
Her last real Minecraft stream was a month ago.

https://holo.poi.cat/stream/WN5A9DIlmvc

Ame plays a lot of debuff games, but 5k solo Minecraft has never happened, even with heavy overlap and starting late, she gets at least 6.5k

>> No.16050073

>>16049438
No, it would be easy as fuck to sue the twitch retards, and very worth it as all of them have millions of dollars in profits.
They are literally publicly broadcasting their crimes, with their faces conveniently already attached to the exhibits. The fact that they are making huge profits off it makes them also criminally liable meaning they could just turn it over to the state and laugh as the states money does the work for them.

The reason its not worth going after most pirates is its really fucking hard to prove someone actually pirated something as they have to get that info from ISPs which is expensive and time consuming and the people pirating are usually broke and not criminally liable as they aren't profiting from it, so even if they unmask a bunch of people they cant even recoup the legal fees from doing so.

>>16049699
no, the rights holders dont really have a good case against twitch, as they are "doing things" about it, all the safe harbor requires is that they take stuff down immediately when passed the DMCA notice, but if the rights holders

>> No.16050084

>>16049934
I think he's referring to all videos as VoD, including both uploads and streams that become VoDs.

>> No.16050098

lots of lawyers here today

>> No.16050101

>>16049841
Still confused which video/streams are actually consider "YouTube Gaming" and which aren't. It doesn't seem like it's a simple as attaching a game in the video details, unless it is on the back end and it's just not showing up correctly publicly under YouTube Gaming.

>> No.16050102

>>16050027
yes, but they haven't updated this since, in fact, there should be more people, the outfit reveal alone peaked at 110k ccv, there wasn't something so big on october

>> No.16050116

>>16048839
I'm just an engineering student. I know only basic programming and accounting. I love numbers.

>> No.16050156

>>16050101
when you start a stream or upload a video, you have the option to tag the content, if it is videogame, you can choose the title, pretty sure this is what determines a stream to be gaming

>> No.16050161

>>16049906
Makes sense. Koyori's mother kinda used to ignore her children but after Koyori debuted she's been way more active in promoting Koyori, even retweeting cosplay of her.

>> No.16050208

>>16050161
Petra…

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Susan finally got her.

>> No.16050254

>>16050101
From YouTube's side it is very literally just the game choice in video details.

From the perspective of industry stats-trackers like StreamHatchet, I added up if they track non-gaming streams and they do. My guess is they determine if a creator streams games then grab all the API data for all their live content.

>> No.16050260

>>16050219
Nui... My poor Nui...

>> No.16050264

>>16050156
But at least for Hololive their gaming streams are tagged with the game they're playing but they're often not showing up under youtube gaming.

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>>16050219
meh, its still growing, here are the prev peaks

>> No.16050319

>>16050264
Because all Hololive channels are set to Japan you need a specific set of language and country settings to see them.

>> No.16050349

>>16048839
Not FAANG, but probably only a step or two below it. No one has taken a look at this until Tuesday at the earliest so that gives us at most 4 days of dev time. A change this catastrophic should be hard reset, so solving the problem should just be a matter of isolating the commit that caused it and reverting the bot flag for all the accounts categorized as a bot after that commit was pushed. That's optimistically like a day or two of work assuming their database system is good enough to make that easy to do.
Once someone finds the offending commit(s), the verification process can still take several days. Need to wait for someone to review it and get it past the automatic verification processes which depending on the company can take several hours to a couple of days assuming nothing goes wrong. Large database changes will probably also require approval from someone high up enough that it can take several days.

This is the ideal case. If they decide it's lower priority than whatever other bullshit they're doing, then work hasn't even begun yet. If the devs are retarded and decide to try to fix the issue without reverting it first, you'll have to wait longer for someone to figure out exactly why the offending change isn't working the way it's supposed to and how to fix it instead of just finding the change to revert. If their database system sucks, reverting the affected accounts can be very difficult or outright impossible. Sometimes the autoverification system fucks up and gates a perfectly fine change so you have to run it again adding on more hours/days.
Earliest I would have expected to see a fix from a competent company was yesterday. But they were retarded enough to let this go through in the first place so don't be surprised if this takes several more weeks before it's fixed, if it's fixed at all. They still haven't fixed the "Started streaming X minutes ago" text not updating for several months despite it probably being a one line fix.

>> No.16050386

>>16050219
To be fair, Subaru's current Pokemon stream is being beaten by Amelia's MC when before the cull it would had been the other way around.
Hope this discourage some holos to start a new Pokemon arc with the new one coming in a few days

>> No.16050406

>>16050309
>still growing
>cant even crak 2k
>last one is 4k
is over...

>> No.16050465

>>16050406
last one took 2 hours to reach peak, will see

>> No.16050569

H-Hey NijiEN, can we finally get those Holo/Niji collabs? We promise we won't infect your viewership, cross my heart

>> No.16050637

>>16050569
We don't share CCVID vaccine, go to be beggar somewhere

>> No.16050650

>>16048839
But it's so much fun watching you fags seethe.

On a serious note, people are still out on vacation. Go numberfag VOD views in the meantime.

>> No.16050727

>>16050349
Thanks for this write up

>> No.16050742

>>16050319
Settings as in what exactly? My own account settings?
I open Iroha's stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBSja1tVHKc
It's correctly tagged, I click browse game, I click browse live streams, and she's not there. The only option I see is at the top to choose my region or worldwide which appears to only change the sorting order.

>> No.16050746
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Shuba last night ark ccv 5k+. Youtube capping ppl.

>> No.16050758

>MC sultan is only 3k
This getting worse and worse every day

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>>16050746
Mikochi 7k ccv playing error.

>> No.16050945

>>16050758
wasn't he at 6k literally like 2 days ago

>> No.16051033

>>16049906
Meanwhile some Niji's mama is unknown. I wonder what's going on with that.

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Pomu vods 1-2k ccv.

>> No.16051044

>>16050945
Yea and he will probably be 3 digit soon at this rate

>> No.16051098

Who will be the first 10k+ holo that can't break 1k on the regular?

>> No.16051195

>>16050746
Here at google we want everybody to be fair and equal.

>> No.16051202

>>16050349
See the thing is I'm not sure that the devs at youtube view this as a catastrophic problem yet. It's catastrophic to us because we are obsessed with such stuff, but normie channels still seem relatively unaffected and so at this point this is just still the bitching of a relatively small community that for all youtube knows are just bot developers throwing a bitch fit that their bots don't work anymore.
And this is also assuming that it's a deliberate change made by a human, given how much Google is fond of machine learning bots it could very well be a runaway process that worked completely fine before Christmas but then it made some retarded connections and started implementing it without oversight. You know, genuine robot apocalypse stuff.

>> No.16051228
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16051228

Did EN seriously all get CCVID after the Mario Kart tournament?

>> No.16051258

>>16051098
Already happened to Miko and Subaru. Looks like Peko-chan is next with Gura going down the slowest due to lower EN damage

>> No.16051275

>>16051258
He said 1k, not 10k.

>> No.16051315

>>16051202
you give them way too much benefit of the doubt. It's intentional and they know exactly the result

>> No.16051325

So how do Ludwig/Valkyae/Dr. Disrespect/Pewdie get infected badly enough that Youtube has to actually acknowledge this beyond Twitter replies?

>> No.16051331

>>16051228
why the fuck does it work like a virus
what does this mean, this is so bizarre

>> No.16051350

>>16051315
>It's intentional and they know exactly the result
The..complete death of their live stream platform?

>> No.16051353

>>16051202
Heck this is assuming that it's a software problem at all, for all we know the youtube verification process is computationally very intensive from the get go, but they could previously manage it fine because Google has buildings upon buildings full of idle server racks that youtube just makes use of, but then a bunch of Chinese companies rents all those server racks in preperation for Chinese new year or something and YouTube suddenly loses like 75% of the processing power that they used to have access to and that's why everything is fucked.

>> No.16051404

>>16051350
they're a social company, their goals are socially orientated.

>> No.16051430

>>16051331
>algo looks for crypto streams that are being excessively botted
>follows flagged accounts to other streams that they're also "botting" in large enough quantities
>uses this to identify more "bots," cascading effect as more "bots" in a stream makes other viewers become flagged similarly as "bots"

Pretty simple, actually.

>> No.16051447

Oh thank god ruineee pass the 1k mark.....

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>>16049614
Do you think Kiara only peaked at 4.6k today?

>> No.16051505

>>16051350
They don't care about Japan.

>>16051404
This. All of the major sites are burning money for the sake of social control. Amazon, Netflix, Twitter, etc. None of them actually care about the people using the platform.

>> No.16051507

>>16051331
One of the theories is that youtube anti boy algorithm works something like this
>Alot of accounts flagged as bots are watching this stream, maybe the other accounts watching this stream are bots too. Let's put them into the intensive scrutiny queue and see where that takes us
Which is true will lead to the phenomenon spreading much akin to a virus.

>> No.16051522

>>16048166
Oh they won't have to worry about a permaban when they AND Amazon get sued for 10's of millions of dollars. Lawyers are biding their time building the case against them.

>> No.16051542

>>16051472
Susan haven't found the niji en males yet.

>> No.16051554

>>16051325
they can't, all their viewers watch twitch exclusively and only are watching on YT because of them, you would need to make them watch something that's not them which is looking pretty impossible to me

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>>16049614
>>16051472(me)
Bonus:
Kiara today vs Kiara a month ago
>3.5 hour stream vs 6 hour stream
>4.1k average vs 5.3k average

>> No.16051663

>>16051542
NijiENmale audience being made up of so many SEA fujos who otherwise have no connection to the vtuber community has been a huge saving grace for them, it turns out.

>> No.16051684

>>16051554
Ludwig and Valkyrae are both bigger on youtube than they were on Twitch. And Valkyrae has a direct line of communication with Fwiz who you guys like to keep bringing up. Something would definitely be done or it would've at least been acknowledged if it was happening to them.

>> No.16051714

>>16051652
for kiara it honestly seems like the korean invasion is saving her from looking worse

>> No.16051745

>>16051684
>click profile
>whitelist from experimental changes

>> No.16051766

>>16051684
On a normal planet people like Pekora/Gura with audiences way more massive than fucking Valkyrae would be the ones to have at least some say in it.
It doesn't help that we have no fucking idea if Cover/Anykara is leveraging their gigantic streamer group clout on youtube's ass for this.

>> No.16051864

>>16051766
Youtube cares about perception and optics, not literal numbers.

Having a cute girl and handsome guy as the faces of your streaming platform fits the corporate optics Youtube is looking for. Having a bunch of Japanese anime girls dominate your platform in both viewership and donation revenue is not what Youtube wants as the face of their platform.

>> No.16051940

>>16051766
>>16051864
Don't blame YT, blame Cover. Hololive fans always say how good of a thing it is that their talents are controlled by management so they can't say dumb things. Well, this is a consequence of it. It would be very easy for Gura or Pegora to tweet about this and send a hoard of angry simps at teamyoutube and get it into tech news, but instead Cover is busy sending 10,000 faxes between their different departments and praying to their ancestors like a good japanese business would.

>> No.16051964

Reminder that if you respond to a YT conspiracy schizo, maybe you're the real retard.

>> No.16051991

>>16051766
I mean gura is not promotional friendly for something like YouTube. She would work for a japan company but they see thing differently. Gura can’t never be the face of YouTube, no matter how many sub or ccv she get.

>> No.16051997

>>16051202
>I'm not sure that the devs at youtube view this as a catastrophic problem yet
I agree with that, like I said they might just consider it low priority.
>And this is also assuming that it's a deliberate change made by a human, given how much Google is fond of machine learning bots it could very well be a runaway process that worked completely fine before Christmas but then it made some retarded connections and started implementing it without oversight. You know, genuine robot apocalypse stuff.
True, but I think this is even easier to fix. Simplest solution would be to turn off the process and revert the database changes from Christmas-ish. Ideally there would be a way to revert the state of the bots to a certain state but I don't know enough about ML to know if that's possible.

>> No.16052014

>>16051964
reminder some of us have been seeing their actions for a decade

>> No.16052041

wait the niji event reclined that much since last year? my lowball was closer than i thought jesus

>> No.16052087

>>16051940
>Cover is busy sending 10,000 faxes between their different departments and praying to their ancestors like a good japanese business would.
Kek. They should absolutely be putting public pressure on youtube at this point, not saying it would necessarily get the problem fixed but they should be doing it. Maybe you play nice and try sort it out behind the scenes for a few days but after that fuck youtube.

>> No.16052094

>>16051997
*certain date, basically load the state of the bots from Christmas and continue from there.

>> No.16052295

>>16052041
We don't know if it reclined or not. They just have aids too.

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I'm surprised they are doing the whole qualifiers in one long stream

>> No.16052641

>>16052295
yeah sorry i meant from the CCVID, my original ballpark low was 35k with a expected 55-60k. if somehow minimal effect 80k top was my high guess

>> No.16052719

>>16052612
are they seriously getting lower numbers than 2020
this feels like the end times

>> No.16052722

https://www.twitch.tv/xqcow
Who wants to watch some HxH?

>> No.16052767

>>16052722
>mirrored HxH is still HxH
lol

also i guess they all reverted back to just doing anime after pokimane got banned today

>> No.16052775

>>16052722
is this like a coordinated effort or something?

>> No.16052876

>>16052722
>Plex
>Japanese audio (FLAC)
Well it could be worse.
At least xqc has some standards.

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>>16052722

>> No.16052937

>>16052722
>top Just Chatting streams include fullscreen HxH, Death Note, Jersey Shore, Shark Tank, and a K-pop televised awards show

They genuinely are trying to nuke the site at this rate, aren't they?

>> No.16052996

>>16052937
>They genuinely are trying to nuke the site at this rate, aren't they?
Twitch could stop them at any time, but they aren't.

>> No.16053019

>>16052996
That's what I mean. They're all going to abuse this so thoroughly that eventually the big fish will bring the DMCA legal threat hammer on Twitch, just like they originally did to Youtube to start us down the Content ID path in the first place.

>> No.16053043

>>16052937
It’s going to keep happening unless a company purposely sues a large streamer directly. Strikes and temp bans won’t do anything. Xqc is big enough it would definitely be worthwhile to take him to court.

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>>16052722
god im just enjoying the show until some twitch streamer gets obliterated

>> No.16053135

>>16053043
They wouldn't go after xQc, they'd go after Twitch. There is no legal fight to be had since Amazon isn't going to court with the television and film industry to try and protect these idiots against the corporate-favoring DMCA just like Youtube didn't.

>> No.16053158

>>16052719
It's not that they're getting lower numbers, it's that the stream is peaking at less than half of what they got last time. If the virus theory is true then expect the main event to get even less.

>> No.16053194

>>16053135
We need to convince XQC to restream some Disney Plus content

>> No.16053231

>>16053194
he wants to walk through a minefield, not jump on an exposed mine

>> No.16053272

>laplus roommate culled 1.6k to 200

>> No.16053317

>>16053194
Pokimane already played with fire by streaming a Viacom property and ended up with the ban for it (11 episodes in, lol), miz was streaming it at the same time and immediately turned off the stream before he could get banned too.

Eventually someone like Viacom is going to get pushed over the edge and it won't be single banner streams when Twitch's hand is forced.

>> No.16053378

>>16053272
I thought she just did twitch.

>> No.16053389

https://www.twitch.tv/kanae_2434
Kanae throws in the towel and kneels to Twitch

>> No.16053393

>>16053272
i find this strange shes still really new in Hololive and already doing roommate shit pretty early and semi-frequently. Oh well at least she will foster a core of diehards that will follow her wherever

>> No.16053467

>>16053272
Why is she doing so much roommate shit only a month after joining Hololive? Feels like she streams more as her roommate than Laplus these days. Is she already chafing at the corporate life?

>> No.16053476

>>16053389
>Followers only chat

>> No.16053588

>>16053467
She's a young girl and wants male attention

>> No.16053658

>>16049217
Well I got baited by this guy, I didn't see shit.

>> No.16053660

>>16053588
She'd become a streaming addict? Mane chan can stop her streaming 24/7 on Laplus but can't stop her streaming on her personal channels. Understandable, it's got to be a rush going from a 2 view to having 1000+ viewers every stream. She wants more of it.

>> No.16053684

>>16053467
Given her experience with her last corp maybe she just wants to ensure she has an out. Cover doesn't forbid it so there isn't much of a problem. She'll slow down on one account eventually.

>> No.16053696

>>16053019
Twitch already got a scare once that led them to start deleting all VODs. I really have no idea how they got back to this point.

>> No.16053715

>>16053467
> Feels like she streams more as her roommate than Laplus these days
Laplus streamed 44 times in Dec 2021. That's more than once a day on average.

>> No.16053721

>>16053135
They would go after both if they wanted to make an example. If they wanted they could get him prosecuted and tossed in prison for a decade if court decides he was a serial violator of copyright and made significant profits from it.
You know how much fear that would put into the public about violating copyrights if they tossed someone like xQc into prison for even a handful of years? That sort of fear is priceless.

>> No.16053729

>>16053389
>the encoding looks better than YouTube

>> No.16053732

>>16052722
Oh man and here I thought the sekrit baj movie/anime nights were super shady.

>> No.16053755

>>16053696
That was the music industry scare. They have yet to face the television/film behemoth.

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>>16053389
He's been streaming semi-frequently on twitch since November of last year it seems, mostly uses it for Valorant. Before the cull his twitch numbers were worse than Youtube by a good margin, but post-cull they're starting to become comparable

>> No.16053788

>>16053378
She does both. The Twitch one is doing 5x better now lol

>> No.16053792

>>16052722
in his viewers location it jumped from 105 japanese people watching him to 200 lol

>> No.16053837

>>16053467
That'd be true if she didn't stream on average of 1.3 times a day. At this point I'm half convinced that she's streaming on her personal account to get around any labour laws that would restrain her if she streamed under cover

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So the cap is 42k?

>> No.16053965

>>16053868
Huh, obviously they're being culled but is part of it a recline? Or are they really reaching Hololive levels and getting 50% culled now?

>> No.16053996

>>16053965
>Or are they really reaching Hololive levels and getting 50% culled now?
Hololive levels are like 75% now. But yes, 50% seems to be what they're at. They went from not affected to 50% cull in 1 fucking week.

>> No.16054003

>>16053868
Only 1 pov?

>> No.16054009

Nene streaming on Twitch today

>> No.16054057

>>16053660
Giving a 1# year old celebrity status overnight is probably fucking with her dopamine. I expect her to chill soon enough.

>> No.16054076

>>16054009
Is this because of numbers or does she normally stream there too

>> No.16054104

>>16052722
since when is xqc a weeb?
is this the hololive influence growing stronger?

>> No.16054117

>>16053965
not yet, holos got culled 70~80% but they are catching up
the nijinoons fucked them over, just watch the numbers droping everyday
the more you stream the more people got banned

>> No.16054120

>>16054003
1 on the main channel and one per participant for that particular game. The numbers on the streamers' personal channels are nothing big. Kuzuha got a solid 12k on his but everyone else has been sub 4k and most sub 1.5k

>> No.16054142

>>16054076
Probably numbers, there aren't any vids listed on her Twitch channel.

>>16054009
When?

>> No.16054148

>>16054076
I think she's used it once for a watchalong so it's definitely numbers. Especially since Nene obviously polled like 5 times in a stream testing how much she was culled by. She was onto this earlier than anyone.

>> No.16054156

>>16054076
Watchalong, she does that every so often

>> No.16054167

>>16054104
anime especially shonenshit is fairly normie shit these days dude.

>> No.16054174

>>16053996
>>16054117
Matsuri said she only got 3k like when her analytics later showed 20k+. Isn't that more like 85%?

>> No.16054189

>>16054104
Anon have you been living under a rock? Anime is becoming mainstream now and who knows? maybe our chuubas can profit off of that.

>> No.16054195

>>16054076
no
besides miko using it weekly, other 3 members do like 1 zatsu and don't use it again

>> No.16054196

How much will Twitch users seethe if Hololive and Niji genuinely migrate to Twitch over time?

>> No.16054205
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Nene is just using twitch for a watchalong, it isn't a sign of anything. But if you're intrested here's her twitch statistics

>> No.16054206

>>16054142
>>16054148
Nah it’s movie time, check her twitter

https://twitter.com/momosuzunene/status/1479691181294755841?s=21

>> No.16054213

>>16054076
Numbers most likely.
No one tell her that the VOD views for her costume are actually still pretty low (compared to HoloX and last year) so, even without the cull, she probably only peaked around ~40k

>> No.16054241

>>16054196
I don't know if they will seethe but I can see they will leech

>> No.16054259

>>16054196
anon, Twitch has been overrun by hot tub streams and titty streamers for years now

Especially after Vshojo broke the ice, vtubers are a nothingburger.

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>>16054205
>watchalong viewers almost equal to her recent stream performances post bug
dis gon be gud

>> No.16054305

>>16054104
How the fuck did you manage to make that connection? What does hololive have to do with anime?

>> No.16054313

>>16054174
Do you know which stream she's talking about?
Is it the Apex gacha stream?

>> No.16054328

>>16054241
>>16054259
Twitch vtubers and Hololive are different products entirely, though. Did you not see the sheer amount of trashing they did over Nene recently, just as a basic example?

>> No.16054331

>>16054196
You might get a little out of 2views, but otherwise nothing.

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>>16054305
>What does vtubing with an anime girl avatar have to do with anime
What the fuck? How does anyone get into vtubing if they're not a fan of anime? You'd just watch normal streamers. vtubing is and always has been for chads who recognize that 2D > 3D

>> No.16054350

>>16054174
Matsuri lies a lot.
>>16054205
>watchalong
They should do some real deal streams. Maybe let La+ do her gacha stream on twitch or some Peko minecraft.

>> No.16054354

>>16054196
2 views might seethe that big corpos are moving in but probably nothing. maybe sykkuno might try for that gura collab again on his home turf where his followers are more virulent

>> No.16054361

>>16054196
https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/ry603z/average_vtuber/

>> No.16054367

>>16054305
anons' introduction to weebshit was through hololive. Therefore he assumes other perceived newfags must have taken a similar path.

>> No.16054382

>>16054328
>recently
As far as I know, it was only Destiny and even LSF called him out for being a boomer clown.
No one cares about his 2000 avg viewer ass anyways since he's a known dramanigger.

Holos and Nijis will be in their own bubbles like they are right now on youtube.

>> No.16054403

>>16054196
Well miko got 25k playing minecraft over there before. This was when holo was still small. Angry, yes.

>> No.16054413

>>16054305
>What does hololive have to do with anime?
Anon I don't know how to tell you this but hololive is anime

>> No.16054442

>>16054305
>>16054367
Retards

>> No.16054451

>>16054305
>What does hololive have to do with anime?
Hololive is basically streamers LARPing Idolmaster. You don't get into it unless you're connected to that community somehow.

>> No.16054471

jesus can mods just nuke this thread

>> No.16054491

>>16054347
There are a bunch of normies who stumble upon veibae or nyanners or whoever has a decent presence there, and find themselves unironically liking the content they offer. Probably more than we'd think.

>> No.16054500

>>16054305
>What does hololive have to do with anime?
Are you asking what anime girls have to do with anime?
Are you sleep deprived or something?

>> No.16054516

I think there would be bigger seethe from the big twitch streamers if the vshojo power trio (mouse/pink cat/vei) are able to get to 20k+ ccv on the regular by the end of the year. It's a stretch but they inclined really hard in 2021, so I wouldn't rule it out.

>> No.16054523

>>16054471
>are those numbers? AIIIIEEEEEEAAARGGGG IM GOING INSANE
Imagine being you

>> No.16054546

>>16054403
it was 17k
during the time when her average got culled from 28k to 13k by YT

>> No.16054552

>>16054403
25k ain't shit though. Yeah, it's way higher than any vtuber on there but it is a diamond dozen there.

>> No.16054556

>>16054471
Why? Besides the shit numbers it's actually been a lot nicer recently. Biggest problem has been newfags coming in who don't know the bait they should ignore.

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>>16054403
The purification of Twitch comes

>> No.16054591

>>16054361
>Using a Lyrica clip
If only they knew

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>>16054552
>it is a diamond dozen
Anon...It's "dime a dozen"

>> No.16054599

>>16054516
Why would that bother them more than hololive suddenly showing up with several 30k+ streamers? Growling Gooba would never touch twitch again but if she did lord knows it'd make some noise.

>> No.16054634

>>16054552
that's a pretty big deal on twitch. on sullygnome there are only 89 channels with 25k+ average over the past 180 days and that includes corporate and esport competition accounts.

>>16054189
>Anime is becoming mainstream now
>now
it's been like 25 years since dbz aired on burger television during kid primetime hours

>> No.16054637

>>16054552
25k is insane its not gigantic like biggest shots on twitch but it easily places you up there with alot of big time streamers anyways. The 2 biggest relics on my personal follow list on right now are Tyler1 with 32k and Sodapoppin at 15k. 25k would be between them and neither of those 2 streamers are small time.

>> No.16054652

>>16054552
There are only 5 streamers on Twitch over 20k right now. Pekora was regularly getting 30k+ on Youtube which means she'd be getting 40k+ on Twitch if her fanbase followed her over. There are only 3-4 streamers on Twitch who would regularly manage to beat the Hololive big hitters, and Hololive would have a complete lock on the mid tier from 5k to 20k

>> No.16054665
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16054665

>HOW
>THE
>FUCK
>DOES
>SHE
>DO
>IT

>> No.16054698
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>>16054665
>started to pass HoloX in weekly subs

>> No.16054714

>>16054665
She's the best.

>> No.16054715

>>16054665
Youtube algorithm is the "rich get richer". If a channel grows Youtube goes "Hey this shit is popular" and recommends it to more people. Gura grows fast, gets recommended to more people, grows faster. It's a positive feedback loop.

>> No.16054756

>Mori getting better numbers than her last stream despite being way more culled than before
Did she incline from the Mario Kart clips or something

>> No.16054767

>>16054361
Ngl I think I've gotten used to ignoring the "vtuber fan = pedo" insults after seeing all the chumpedo bait posted on this board everyday.

Thanks guys.

>> No.16054784

>>16054350
She probably did have at least ~15k CCV, shes never gone below 11k for apex gacha and she made $27k in the one with supposedly only 4k peak CCV.
For comparison her 11k CCV one only made 19k 2 months ago.

>> No.16054788

>>16054756
She's progressing fast anon, wait till she fall, her numbers will go back down

>> No.16054829

Gura has the potential to become one of the top streamers on twitch. The big two obstacles for her to get there would be 1. networking with other twitch people which I really doubt she would want to do and 2. streaming long hours which is really important for growth on twitch (for big streamers). That's a huge reason against Holos moving to twitch, these girls get by easily with low and inconsistent streaming hours on YT, but it doesn't work like that on twitch. This is all hypothetical of course because a hololive move to twitch is obviously incredibly unlikely.

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16054832

Ame's VoD count 50 mins after stream ended
this should be... uh... 10k tier I guess?
from what I observed Myth CCV-VoD behavior:
undercount:
>Gura
>Mori
>Ame
overcount:
>Ina
Normal:
>Kiara

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16054856

Slen is on twitch again, now her numbers should be unspoiled

>> No.16054863

>>16054829
Its hard to gauge how much a Holo would network on twitch. theres a certain culture as a holo that is "expected" somewhat and I feel like thats a big block for alot of what girls could do on twitch.

>> No.16054873

>>16054856
Apex? to check prev. numbers

>> No.16054878

>>16051940
>Cover is busy sending 10,000 faxes between their different departments and praying to their ancestors like a good japanese business would.
I know you are joking but business to business inquiry is not done by sending your employee to do public complain. They'll keep it in the behind the scene.

>> No.16054882

>>16054832
9-10k is about what her late night MC tended to get before the culling, sounds about right.

>> No.16054923

>>16054832
10k range is what id expect for ames performance maybe low 8ks at worst for minecraft.

>> No.16054941

>>16054832
Kiaras is nowhere near normal
she gets 150% poll participation in 1-2 minutes and she has been spamming polls for the past week to test how badly the CCV is being culled.

>> No.16054950

>>16054829
If Hololive switched to Twitch there would be no "networking". They'd be their own little bubble. Hololive already has an established fanbase of millions of people. That's bigger than anyone on Twitch.

>> No.16054968

>>16054950
>That's bigger than anyone on Twitch
uhhhhhhh

>> No.16054976

>>16052087
While your are not wrong, should a corpo break the unspoken rules and bring their shit public, it would very quickly turn them into a pariah of the corporate world

>> No.16054998

>>16048840
Haachama follows him on Twitter

>> No.16055006

>>16054832
Ina is the only Myth (or EN, honestly) close to numbers you'd expect from her and even then it's on the lower scale.

>> No.16055009

>>16054878
>>16054976
japanese man go home >>>/2ch/

>> No.16055041

>>16054715
Then what causes Pekora's growth stagnated while Fubuki and Marine with similar level of subs are still going strong?

>> No.16055047

>>16054941
>>16055006
no no I mean their ccv-to-vod behavior.
For example, Ina always has higher CCV than her genmates bar gura but her VoD is usually relatively lower when you look at CCV. Like If both Ina and Ame has 10k CCV and stream at the same duration, Ame will usually have higher VoD than Ina. Dunno why. Maybe audience structure?

>> No.16055057

>>16054968
XQC is their biggest individual talent and has 1.2 million twitter followers. That's lower than some Holos let alone the entire company.

>> No.16055076

>>16055047
Ina has or had(?) a consistent time slot range so her fans all watched her at the same timeframe. Ame tends to drift like 8-10 hours range almost

>> No.16055096

>>16054950
I agree on the bubble and that's fine, but they wouldn't be the #1
the reason why Twitch only has so many popular streamers is because of extreme box pushing and the algorithm puts them to compete against literal trash streamers who have no chance, NO ONE scrolls down to search and discover new streamers, you pick a game and click on the ones on the first row
HoloNiji are extremely popular in youtube because
>they don't rely in the platform for discoverability
>they have a lot of popular members to perform box pushing among themselves, you pretty much have 24/7 content
>they don't have to compete with other streamers of the same size

>> No.16055102

>>16055057
he has an average viewers of 75,000 and nearly 10 million subscribers

https://twitchtracker.com/channels/ranking

>> No.16055128

>>16055057
>twitter followers
bro xqc absolutely destroys any holo talent one and one in streaming metrics

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>>16055041
Pekoras growth didn't stagnate, she was the biggest vtuber in the world in 2021 by viewership. She was so far ahead of everyone else that the next highest in watch hours was only half of her yearly total.

>> No.16055154

>>16055041
Pekora is a complete anomaly. She does nothing to help herself grow subscribers or followers on any platform at all really. Fubuki has the tourist buff from pokemon gacha and Marine does her shorts.

>> No.16055155

Pekora with 6k waiting room
Is ace attorney so it makes sense.
Normally would be a 15k stream but in todays world we are looking at 5k max.

>> No.16055166

>>16055096
>they don't rely in the platform for discoverability
anon the YT algo is what brings most people to hololive, one way or another. it's not like the angel gabriel just whispers to 12 year olds in their dream "Go watch the shark play minecraft"

>> No.16055169

>>16055102
Hololive has 150k watching talents across the company in primetime and 25 million subscribers spread across the channels they own.

>> No.16055173

PekoMiko minecraft plotline done entirely on twitch. That would be a good show of force.

>>16055128
I think he was combining the entire company whcih isn't fair or a good comparison.

>>16055138
Kuzuha and Hal have more watch hours than Pekkers.

>> No.16055193

>>16055155
I haven't been keeping up with Pekora's numbers specifically, has she been clearing her waiting rooms?

>> No.16055202

>>16055169
>an entire company vs 1 autistic french canadian

>> No.16055207

https://youtu.be/Ld89fZ43lUk
https://youtu.be/Ld89fZ43lUk
https://youtu.be/Ld89fZ43lUk
ALL HAIL OUR NEW NUMBERFAG GOD

>> No.16055218

do you guys always talk about twitch this much?
t. definitely not a tourist

>> No.16055222

>>16055193
barely
is similar to gura but im assuming it willget worse with debuff content.

>> No.16055224

>>16055169
are you kidding me bro, your logic is retarded

>> No.16055236

>>16055218
theres no good streams on right now and youtube is fucked as it stands. so were just rambling at this point.

>> No.16055240

>>16055202
Yes. Because the original quote was
>Hololive already has an established fanbase of millions of people. That's bigger than anyone on Twitch.
Which is correct. Now kneel.

>> No.16055241

>>16055202
>Replying to obvious bait
Grow a thicker skin retard

>> No.16055255

>>16055218
only as a reference not a lot to talk about with how fucked ccv is right now.

>> No.16055260

>>16055218
Not normally, but it's been getting alot of attention recently because, you know, the susanpocaplyse

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First 2 digit JP?

>> No.16055274

>>16055096
>they don't have to compete with other streamers of the same size
Who are they going to compete with on twitch? Xqc? Lol, Holo and niji fans won’t watch him. Vshoujo? Maybe the en girl but the jp girls and guys are safe.

>> No.16055273

>>16055218
No but since Youtube has cut numbers 80% for hololive and 50%-60% for Nijisanji people are desperate for a big number. They only want twitch just so they can see the numbers go back to a more normal state.

>> No.16055286

>>16055207
But I'm a tribalfag that just wants to know how Holo songs are doing thoooo
I don't want to see Kuzuha's KING get 400k views a week every week and beat most Holo covers

>> No.16055304

>Say Hololive as a company is bigger than anyone on Twitch
>Retard questions that
>More retards who can't follow the comment chain start thinking it's a 1 on 1 comparison between individual talents
Holy fuck. Dumb cunts.
>>16054950
>>16054968

>> No.16055309

>>16055207
Top 50 vtuber cover in December?

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16055312

>your oshi will never ever win Jun

>> No.16055319

>>16055286
Eh, there's a holo-only ranking channel, I'll go dig it up later.
It also doesn't hurt to know about numbers across the v-tubing industry.

>> No.16055324

>>16055166
I'm talking about the equivalent to "browse" on twitch, YT is like a personal chef, they feed you something based on what you have enjoyed eating, Twitch is a buffet , you pick something to eat by wandering around

>>16055274

>> No.16055326

>>16054361
The replies are the reception from general public that will happened if Hololive move to Twitch.

>> No.16055343

>>16055319
Looks like this is top 50 all cover song by internet artists

>> No.16055347

>>16055138
I'm talking about sub growth anon,I know Pekora is amazing in streaming performance and that's the reason why I ask the question about her sub growth which is staling compare to Fubuki and Marine.

>> No.16055364

Remember when Pekora used to wait until her waiting room numbers came back before ending her intro?

>> No.16055388

>>16055207
Who the fuck?

>> No.16055402

Tourist here. Did the cull actually killed all hope and dreams of this thread?

>> No.16055404
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16055404

It's over

>> No.16055407

>>16055347
Pekora is a JP only streamer. There's only so much you can grow before hitting the cap of people who are within your niche. Hikakin is the biggest JP Youtuber and he only has 10 million subs. The only way Pekora can keep growing is by expanding the pond at this point.

>> No.16055420

>>16055402
no, we are hanging collecting data to prove we are not only schizos but also extreme autists

>> No.16055430

>>16055304
stop dicksucking hololive loser, and stop getting super angry when people point out how retarded you are

>> No.16055436

>>16055364
A buff stream with about 20k already watching while bun bun cha is playing... I miss it...

>> No.16055439

>>16055276
its at 230 now so hey at least a 3view...
god thats depresing

>> No.16055456

>>16055207
>a procession of literal who's and 3dpds
I reject your false god

>> No.16055458
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16055458

Niji mahjong got 42.5k for the first one, down 50% from last year. There is part B next, which got 94k last year.

>> No.16055476

>>16055407
And we know she won't. She's the most reclusive Holo, actively trying to not associate with anyone outside of her closed circle of friend

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16055480

>>16055458

>> No.16055487

>>16055430
NTA but he's right, you just lack reading comprehension.

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>>16055404

>> No.16055491

>>16055343
Yea oops should've checked the title. This is still a good comparison, let's see how Holo and Niji stack up.

>> No.16055523

>>16050849
>7k CCV
>2 hour stream
>300k VOD views
no way a 7k CCV stream that is barely 2 hours gets that many VOD views. Holy fuck Miko is being slaughtered. My poor Elite Baby :(

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16055530

Already 750k views with 40k ccv?

>> No.16055542

>>16055439
Her Minecraft zatsus get 4k+ so should be interesting to see how big her cull is

>> No.16055549

>>16055404
>Somehow is still among the top JP with that number
Yeah it's over but for everyone that is not her

>> No.16055556

>>16055319
That one is dead for the foreseeable future because the dude is too stupid to set up a PayPal donation for his stuff.

>> No.16055563

>>16055480
So Selen is playboardfag too

>> No.16055595

>>16051228
The Mario Kart Tournament was a super spreader event.

>> No.16055605

>>16055523
People just open stream. Watch 30 seconds sbd close it just in time for another user to take their place. All perfectly normal and functional. Pay it no mind, citizen.

>> No.16055608

>>16055286
https://vmoveie.com/?so=pop&r=mu
His KING has not surpassed 350K a week for a long time

>> No.16055621

>>16055523
If the average watch time is 3 minutes the numbers add up.

>> No.16055628

>>16055523
We know, she's eating what's probably a 60-70%+ cull

>> No.16055634

>>16055207
Oh hey the Christmas song got 800k in a little under a week

>> No.16055669

>>16055621
I will strangle you

>> No.16055673

>>16055556
No, no, not the USUAL one, but there's one or two that have released regularly but are small. They get posted around here once in a while.

>> No.16055676

>>16052041
I have been in this thread for the last week saying that Nijisanji is experiencing a genuine recline. I have scoured the globe unearthing all the clues I could find to show that this is true. Maybe you should start taking me seriously. I am the CCVID oracle.

>> No.16055706

Yeah, I'll take the normalfag numberfag cover ranking

>> No.16055715

>>16055676
you make yourself sound like a very mentally ill person

>> No.16055717

>>16055621
>>16055676
Stop being retarded and fuck off

>> No.16055747

>>16055530
>Last year: 676571 views

>> No.16055750

>>16055715
I think he's just a genuine shitposter

>> No.16055754

>>16055608
Interesting... Ochame Kinou might stand a chance then because it was looking like King was going to overtake it eventually.
Interesting that Laplus's Godish isn't on there, but damn Suisei's Phony still going strong.

>> No.16055759

>>16054442
>>16054413
Still has nothing to do with Hunter x Hunter you dumb fucks. Touch grass and take meds, you are way too deep in holobubble. Hololive didn't invent anime.

>> No.16055765

>>16055717
Ever heard of something called "tongue in cheek'?
I'm just saying the reported CCV is absurd and it's probably closer to 25k.

>> No.16055772

>>16055747
same lenght?

>> No.16055775

>>16055608
This is only for songs released in December so it wouldn't show up anyways.

>> No.16055790

>>16055715
It became a running joke after some anon spammed it in the first few days of the cull.
Getting kinda old now tho and the variations are trying too hard to sound ridiculous.

>> No.16055815

>>16055404
a debuff game not even on her usual timeslot
the number will be shit even without cull
smart peko just get over this quick and blame the low number to YT fuckup

>> No.16055826

THE ANTHEM IS HERE

>> No.16055828

>>16055747
So that means the real number is close to 100k?

>> No.16055832

>>16055530
Not that post-stream VOD views are super accurate anyways, but didn't Towa's HoloMK Cup get more than 750k when it ended despite being shorter?

>> No.16055834

>>16055790
Just wait and see in a few days it's funny again

>> No.16055852

Toko's phony got 3rd

>> No.16055856

>>16055754
It misses some new channels and non-individual channels. Also some songs are included in "動画" category.

>> No.16055865

>>16055832
niji isnt as culled if we go by the poker tournament.

>> No.16055874

What Ado covered Senbonzakura?

>> No.16055875

>>16055772
Yes, both streams take about 5 hours

>> No.16055879

>>16055834
that's how i use the internet

>> No.16055885

>>16055207
Hololive barely shows up on the list save for being a large part of the top ten.

>> No.16055886

YMD is powerful

>> No.16055890

Question: If the Holo always see their true number all along, does that mean there's a difference between number from their POV and from our POV for...no reason?

>> No.16055898

nips in chat
>isn't there like, a lot of holos?

>> No.16055902

How many Hololive in top 10? Six? Seven?

>> No.16055910

>>16055890
apparently it's a processing bug according to hal and selen, but it surely fucks with your optics

>> No.16055914
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16055914

that numberlist has eased my mind now i can sleep well

>> No.16055924

>>16055890
That's currently. The numbers before the cull started likely were similar enough that it wasn't an issue.

>> No.16055926

>>16055890
>If the Holo always see their true number all along
They don’t. Not for some 48 hours even in their analytics

>> No.16055937

>pegors not above 6k
i feel like she could fire up twitch right now and fucking smash these numbers even if its not her primary streaming outlet

>> No.16055939

>>16055207
>Nijiniggers
Yeah, no

Where is the Hololive only one?

>> No.16055943

>>16055890
yes, and this has been the case since 2020

>> No.16055946

>>16055885
It only counts songs that released in December so that cuts down on the available entries. It's still, what, 20 odd entries?

>> No.16055949

>>16055865
Or we can go by the tournament that is happening now that suggest they're getting hit pretty hard. Not as hard as hololive but you're insane if you think that this is natural.

>> No.16055957

>>16055898
Kek even Ina, who is definitely not known for her singing, made it into the top 10.
Nips aren't used to how dominant HoloEN is when it comes to music.

>> No.16055961

>>16055902
9th ina
8th sui + towa
7th ogayu
6th sui + moona
5th holoen
1th YMD
so, 6

>> No.16055962

>>16055898
Actually, it has been a couple of weeks. I've watched this channel(+sub ch.) since June.

>> No.16055964

>>16055943
Nice "feature" Youtube

>> No.16055979

>>16055890
They don't, they only see the real numbers a couple of days later in their analytics

>>16055943
No you fucking retard this is new

>> No.16056042

>>16055865
I mean, the Poker Tournament peaked higher than this and I'm willing to bet my left hand that Niji Mahjong actually had the higher peak lol

>> No.16056054

in twitch everyone knows the numbers are all manipulated by bots anyway, it's totally meaningless you might as well just watch what you want. Just forget about the numbers

>> No.16056087

>>16055961
some other holos
21th holoen (christmas)
18th ina + kiara (iyaiya)
13th gura (blue archive)
12th fbk (シル・ヴ・プレジデント)
in the top 20, 10 are holos, impresive considering they are competing against pretty popular niggers

>> No.16056095

>>16056054
i can't man, i'm a basic bitch and insecure as shit

>> No.16056153

I've followed the numbers for a few days now and I think hololive is just reclining

>> No.16056158

oh right, I forgot about this, they will never be able to see the "correct" CCV on unarchived streams right? I see this as a pretty big loss

>> No.16056176

>>16055207
This is one of the first times I'm being exposed to non-Hololive songs. Why are all the non-Hololive songs so bad? No wonder Hololive dominated the top 10.

>> No.16056189

I've followed the numbers for a few days now and I think hololive, nijisanji, vspo, voms, versenne, animare, noripro, .live is just reclining

>> No.16056197

>>16056153
they told you to wait a couple of days to see if it was funny again and you couldn't wait a fucking hour man

>> No.16056213

Actually with ccv being cut, it really make the high SC Holos seem even more impressive. That much money from less viewer than the top watched Holo

>> No.16056228

>>16055898
It's going to blow their minds when the new Gura + Mori original is released.

>> No.16056246

>>16056153
They hate this anon because he spoke the truth.

>> No.16056255

>>16056228
ye, that shit getting 2~4m in the first month, Mori's channel is actually a buff on this case

>> No.16056313

>>16056228
It will. Laplus was #1 on this list with 4.94 million views for the month of December.

To put that in perspective. Gura/Mori KING got 4.7 million views in ONE WEEK.

>> No.16056353

scrolled down pretty far, this is the WORST number pekora has ever had, ever

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>>16056353
nvm, found one

>> No.16056388

@holo_data sudoku'd?

>> No.16056418

>>16056388
https://twitter.com/Holo_Data/status/1479035745331740672
He knows these numbers are full of shit.

>> No.16056424

>>16056228
It only hosts covers, I think, originals aren't part of their lineup

>> No.16056434

>>16050569
Keep those Nijjers awa from Holo please

>> No.16056458

>>16056418
so he was a super simp and not an objective number fag all along

>> No.16056461

>>16056375
Jeez no wonder she dropped FO4 after 1 stream.
Too bad since I think Fallout streams are filled with good stream content, especially for HoloJP girls who have no idea what to expect.

>> No.16056510

2nd part of niji mahjong recovered waiting room numbers at 16 mins
what was this again last time? 90k+?

>> No.16056521

>CCVID is actually getting worse
NOT FAST ENOUGH

A C C E L E R A T E

>> No.16056531

>>16056458
A genuine numberfag is not a nijinigger simple as

>> No.16056548

>>16056458
Numberfagging with data that the sources have outright stated to be bad could be argued to be worse than not numberfagging at all.

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jesus fucking christ

>> No.16056605

prev. part had a wait room of 15k, this one had 28k, so double

>> No.16056616

>>16056554
koyori's graph for this stream is the saddest shit ive ever seen

>> No.16056622

>>16056458
Is there any point in doing measurements when the rulers don't have numbers and the weights are inaccurate?

>> No.16056627

>>16056605
Queen Peko reached waiting room numbers

>> No.16056643

>>16056622
it doesn't stop like half the people on this thread lmao

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already reaching the Susaning critical point

>> No.16056651

>>16056622
Only to show that "shit's fucked, yo".

>> No.16056680

>>16056647
this wait room would be like 150k guaranteed

>> No.16056753

Remember when we used to said HoloX going to kill Peko? The so called "Pekora killer"?
They failed and Pekora have to kill herself instead to show them how it's done

>> No.16056792

>>16056753
who are you quoting

>> No.16056798

Have we reached the point where Gura is the only 10k streamer in Hololive

>> No.16056797

>>16056647
They were getting more from the stream a few hours ago at the same point. Is this a real time example of the cull killing another 10% of viewers in the same day?

>> No.16056807
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Cover told Susan to hit the girls with the "cull" to let them know how Sora and the early gen felt to motivate them to try even harder.

>> No.16056819

>>16055047
People that watch Ina tend to watch the entirety of the stream, she has much lower churn.

>> No.16056824

>>16056798
for now
jfc

>> No.16056837

>>16056797
yeah, but I don't think it can be worse than Okakoro endurance, shit lost 50% of their viewers and got the same VOD views and likes

>> No.16056869

>>16056797
it's probably still gonna get more than 1st part mainly cause of time slot, same thing than last year, however, i don't know by how much

>> No.16056880

>>16056753
There was much more "Gura killer" shitposting going around.

>> No.16056922
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16056922

aaaaaaaaaaaah Susan yameteeeeeeeee

>> No.16056923

>>16056837
...mikorone, surely you mean.

>> No.16056930

>>16056869
I wouldn't be so certain of anything at this point. There is a non-zero chance the main event won't hit 42.5k.

>> No.16056952

>>16056922
Imagine, that in their bid to host big events this unironically resulted in tourists getting flagged and it starts affecting whatever normie shit these people watch.

>> No.16056953

https://twitter.com/uruharushia/status/1479739575962836992
https://twitter.com/uruharushia/status/1479739575962836992
https://twitter.com/uruharushia/status/1479739575962836992
In other news Rushia might be getting arrested

>> No.16056955

What are the bets this actually gets fixed? Will youtube just leave it as is?

>> No.16056970

>>16056923
oh yeah, that, Mikkorone, would you believe me if I told you I wrote PekoMiko at first and changed it to the other wrong answer? numbers are rotting my brain

>> No.16057002

>>16056953
damn caught whoring herself to me

>> No.16057010

>>16056953
>isreal
what the fuck

>> No.16057021

>>16056952
Isn't that what we want? The more the body is infected the more pressure there will be on youtube.

>> No.16057085

>>16056953
finally, justice for the rape of pekora

>> No.16057089

>>16056955
never
when was the last time youtube fix something?
you are lucky if they didn't mess up another thing in the mean time

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16057101

Damn, even Pekora's numbers are pathetic. Vshojo truly has become the #1 vtuber company after all. How are my holobros coping?

>> No.16057120

>>16057021
Of course we want this to get worse, I would just find it funny that attempts to get big numbers actually backfires into shrinking numbers.
>>16056955
Non-zero chance they say they 'fixed' the issue and then fuck off much like they 'fixed' things back in 2020. Would be terrible, and that point I wouldn't blame smaller chubbas and corps fucking off to Twitch for streams and doing only VODs on YouTube.

>> No.16057136

>>16057101
are you ban evading again?

>> No.16057146

>>16057101
<<got new ip>>
welcome back! took a 2 day vacation?

>> No.16057156

>>16057136
? First time ever posting in this general, and I just saw Pekora's stream.

>> No.16057183

>>16056955
I really want to believe they’re not that incompetent. They can’t leave things as it is because it’s getting worse over time. Pekora will be getting sub 5k by next week at this rate

>> No.16057219

>>16057183

So people here actually believe it's a bug and not Youtube just banning all the viewbots?

>> No.16057225

I told you guys Gura had better numbers than Pekora.

>> No.16057229

>>16057183
The only way this gets fixed properly is if it starts to affect YouTube's 'precious' facecam streamers very badly, very quickly and they publicly roast YouTube over it. Until then, forget about them doing a PROPER revert+fix.

>> No.16057239

>>16057219
(You)

>> No.16057244

>>16057219
Because it's not just Holo/Niji that are affected. Some no name indies are affected too.

Also, some people are reporting that their views are not getting counted.

>> No.16057259

>>16057101
Vshojo also had a bad day today, Mousey only got 10K and Vei 11K. Then again, soda's and mizkif's numbers for today are below average too.

>> No.16057262

>>16057219
You shitposting bitch, I refuse to accept that I am a bot. Also, if YouTube did believe they are bots they wouldn't be back-adding them to people's analytics pages DAYS AFTER.

>> No.16057267

>>16057219
anon, even fucking 2views indies are getting slashed in half or 75% percent

>> No.16057292

>>16057267
Not the indies I watch.

>> No.16057294

>>16055207
God Ado and Suisei sound so similar, I thought #2 was Suisei until they showed the artist name

>> No.16057302

Who are the retards who said phoenix wright is a debuff game
its a fucking awesome gam ethat attracts many people
pekora is currently playing it and has over 7k with the current cull whcih means that she's at 30K at least and at the end of the trial she was at 10K which is 50k

>> No.16057316

>>16057292
i know you don't watch streams anon

>> No.16057323

>>16057302
>7k with the current cull whcih means that she's at 30K at least and at the end of the trial she was at 10K which is 50k
You don't actually believe this, do you

>> No.16057367

>>16057323
>You don't actually believe this, do you
I would believe any number except what they show on screen

>> No.16057371

>>16057302
anon, it's fine if it just was an avg 20k+ peko stream, you don't have to overload on copium like this

>> No.16057373
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16057373

>>16057302
based on miko previous playtorugh she probably has15k-20k. if the game didint have the stupid ass restrictions it would be an EXCELLENT streaming game.

Also is the likes on comunnity posts problem still happening?
i see gura recovered them afetr 24hr also

>> No.16057386

>>16057323
They do believe it. Viewbots getting deleted is way more plausible but that makes Cover look bad.

>> No.16057431
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16057431

latest teamyt reply to a similar issue, this time, the nip mentioned holodex, the reply is the same though, automated

>> No.16057440

>>16057373
That ratio fits with previous posts. Looks like youtube live validation speed of pretty much all stats is just down the drain. Sad for numberfagging

>> No.16057449

>>16057386
Bro, it's been affecting VSPO worse than hololive and Nijisanji is struggling to hit 35k on their main channel during an event that got 94k last year.

>> No.16057464

>>16057431
Stop posting this. It gives me false hope

>> No.16057469

I'll like to think this CCVID arc will make /#/ stronger.
Newfags are getting used to ignoring bait.
Unity is higher than ever and tribalfagging is at an all-time low in these threads.
We're going to make it through, guys.

>> No.16057472

>>16057449
Last year covid was at its peak

>> No.16057478

>>16057431
Does it actually say "working to resolve it" or is that just machine translation? Because if it's "working to fix" then that's a lot better than "investigating".

>> No.16057487

>>16057472
anon it happened in less than two weeks, stop being retarded for the love of god

>> No.16057495

>>16057371
Different anon but she actually can peak very high CCV on some random games. Like she got to over 31k playing Ape Escape 3, the average was a lot lower obviously.

>> No.16057516

>>16057469
anon, i want to die

>> No.16057533

>>16056922
retard

>> No.16057542

>>16057431
>>16057464
>>16057478
These replies are useless as they're probably made by a bot or a pajeet. In any case, a report made by literal whos in YT gaming isn't gonna be a serious concern for Susan's 5 dollar pajeet army.

>> No.16057552

>>16057487
Anon, stop trying to reason with the shitposter, you're just feeding them (you)s. I swear that this ccvid has fucked with everyone's ability to spot blatant shitposting.

>> No.16057569

>>16057302
because miko played it and it's average at best
btw 7k after cull does not equal 30k uncull
hell we don't even know the rate, but there is no way this shit can get 30k let alone 50k
the fucking restriction at the end killed the momentum and people tap out at that point which is supposed to be the climax

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16057570

>>16057542
they changed the reply, on top is the most recent, bottom is the previous one

>> No.16057577

>>16057478
>現在専門部署が解消に向けて取り組んでおります
The meaning of the MTL is accurate. Whether or not it's true is another story. It could just be a different PR angle because JP people expect different messages from companies than english speakers.

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16057590

>>16057478
Not sure what this means.

>> No.16057600

Does you retard finally go back bitting bait again or this one is just a samefag?

>> No.16057605

>>16057552
What's with you people accusing anyone who doesn't eat up your "culling" narrative a shitposter?

>> No.16057609

>>16057552
im sorry man, i had to, i have number withdrawal

>> No.16057627

>>16057542
at least they aknowledge the problem.

>> No.16057662

>>16057552
Wrong. People have always responded to blatant shitposting.

>> No.16057686

>>16057605
I mean, you're either shitposting or you're blatantly accusing Hal, Selen and several Indies of blatantly forging their analytics, on top of teamyoutube lying that there's an issue. Here's your (you), now fuck right off. >>16057590

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>>16057590
their previous responses from other days

>> No.16057709

>>16057662
I mean moreso than usual, but then again you do make a valid poiny, /#/ loves to take that juicy hook and bite right down.

>> No.16057734

>>16050011
chicken voice

>> No.16057737

Ok guys Youtube knows it's a problem and they're gonna fix it, wrap up the doomposting back to normal numberfagging.

>> No.16057751

>>16057569
She peaked 9k not 7. Her ditto shiny hunting stream peaked barely over 10k and VOD views look like it very well could've got to 30k actual CCV. Not saying this is a 30k CCV stream just saying it very well could be close to one.

>> No.16057763

>>16057708
So it's confirmed then, Cover/Anycolor were using viewbots and they just got 'culled' by Youtube.

>> No.16057774

>>16056955
It's made yahoo news in Japan so it should only be a matter of time before it gets big enough to elicit a proper response. Whether that is a fix or not is up to Susan

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16057777

>>16057763
buenos dias! 3 de la manana?

>> No.16057816

>>16057763
Don’t forget Sony, viewbotting their VERSEn branch all the way up to
>check notes
120 viewers!?

>> No.16057840

>>16057763
I want to feed on your liver

>> No.16057843

>>16057816
don't bother anon, it's the spic vshoujo schizo, confirmed the ip count and the date of his file

>> No.16057844

>>16057373
who the fuck is miko>?!
we are talking about pekora retard
the are two differentn people with two different averages

>> No.16057860

Twitch doesn't mind viewbots so I'm guessing if Youtube keeps this fix both Nijisanji and Hololive will be moving there

>> No.16057875

>>16057737
No the current state of affairs will continue until the susanpocaplyse ends

>> No.16057880

>>16057386
>cover
it hits nijisaji, vspo, independent

>> No.16057882

>>16057843
Racism is not OK outside of /b/, you know.

>> No.16057891

>>16057880
I'm eating your liver

>> No.16057905

>>16057569
another retard can't tell the difference between miko and pekora
just because miko had 20k doesnt mean pekora will have only 20k too
pekora has higher ccv than miko retard
she has easily 30k currently

>> No.16057907

>>16057860
A full migration would be chaotic to both Hololive and Twitch, not a very smart move for Cover. However, they can put a foot down and have chuubas stream there once or twice a week.

>> No.16057909

>>16057882
that nonsense doesn't protect you from the truth

>> No.16057934

>>16057905
She has 9k just accept it.

>> No.16057936
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16057936

>>16057882
> Racism is not OK outside of /b/

>> No.16057950

>>16057891
*cums on you*

>> No.16057957

>>16057891
Which liver? Mito? Shiina? Nijisanii has a lot of livers

>> No.16057958

>>16057934
I am going to eat your liver

>> No.16057959

nijimahong pt1
>waitroom
15k
>drop
4k
>30 min in
31k
>1 hour in
35k

nijimahong pt2
>waitroom
28k
>drop
9k
>30 min in
34k
>1 hour in
37k

not looking good numberbros, normies started getting flagged

>> No.16057982

>>16057959
the drop is DOWN TO 4k, aka it touched it, it's not a reduction, mb

>> No.16057989

>>16057934
You wish faggot
Never!

>> No.16058009

ETA until sub-10k gold?

>> No.16058010

Youtube seems to have fixed the viewbotting problem on livestreams but not on waiting rooms. Hopefully they will tackle this issue next so the numbers are more consistent.

>> No.16058032

>>16057763
no it was unironic people opening a tab leaving a like, open new tab leave a like. open new tab leave a like, not even watching.

>> No.16058043

>>16058010
Mmhm finely chopped human liver mixed with parsley

>> No.16058048

Idk what is the spic schizo trying to achieve, just stop giving him (You)'s

>> No.16058055

>>16058009
I was hoping this would happen next month but it looks like it'll happen in a day or two.

>> No.16058063

>>16058010
im going to fuck your dad

>> No.16058089

>>16058055
nah, there's a couple of events in the week, it's possible if Gura is not streaming though

>> No.16058098

>16058043
>16058063
>Giving him (You)s
Die

>> No.16058101

This whole cull thing has been both very depressing and funny at the same time

>> No.16058102

>>16056953
Tweet deleted, what happened?

>> No.16058124

>>16058102
"I have to delay the stream, the police is outside my house" or something like that

>> No.16058135

Kanae and Selen on Twitch, are Nijis jumping to Twitch? Also notice the former youtube APEX players on there now.

>> No.16058139

>>16058032
How is that possible? Like you dislike and like again?

>> No.16058140

>>16058101
We're calling it the susanpocaplyse now, to differentiate it from the 2020 cull

>> No.16058150

>>16058124
Oh I guess it's to prevent doxxing or something if her mic captured the police's siren

>> No.16058169

>>16058032
Mmhm I bet you have a fat and tasty liver

>> No.16058183

>>16058135
Apex died a little, YT is pretty dry and I don't think the popular nijis are playing in the CR Cup

>> No.16058194

>>16058150
Yeah but everyone thinks that she got some creepy marshmallows or skmeht and is going to the police because she's scared.

>> No.16058198

>>16058135
Kanae and Selen streamed on twitch semi-regularly before the cull, call me when it starts happening en-masse.

>> No.16058207

>>16058135
Newfag, they have streamed shooters on twitch for months

>> No.16058213

>>16058032
hermano LOS OJOS no te veo A LOS OJOS

>> No.16058234

>>16058194
No everyone thinks she got caught being paid by me for sex.
Shouldn't listen to everyone, especially when its inside your head

>> No.16058242

>>16058139
stop replying to the twitch nigger, doesn't even know how youtube works

>> No.16058247

Remember youtube still hasn't fixed the issue where opening the emotes tab consumes ALL of your ram so I wouldn't put much stock in them fixing this issue quickly

>> No.16058249

>>16058183
>>16058198
>>16058207
But what about the other APEX dudes like Kawase

>> No.16058267

>>16058251

>>16058251

>>16058251

Migrate when ready

>> No.16058283

>>16058267
im not ready, will you hold my hand

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>>16058249

>> No.16058404
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16058404

wouldn't this be the first itme a nijiEN sneaks in the top 10? there's like 6 hours left

>> No.16058462

>>16058267
No thanks, people here are accusing me of being a ban evading mexican samefagging schizo even though it's my first time in a Numbers thread. I didn't expect everyone here to be so paranoid, you're taking this youtube numbers thing too seriously and I'm out, enjoy your containment.

>> No.16058485

>>16058462
You smell like you have a tasty liver

>> No.16058488

>>16058404
gross

>> No.16058514

>Numbers in the toilet because of CCVID
>Holos decide that now of all times is the time for an ARK arc
Why are they like this

>> No.16058518

>>16058462
What is this fucker talking about? I just made another thread since this one will reach it's limit soon and the discussions are drying up.

>> No.16058619

>>16058518
Freshly chopped human liver stir fried in olive oil and onions mhmm

>> No.16058647

>>16058518
He's assmad that, because he decided to namedrop Vshojo, he's being (rightfully) lumped in with the samefagging Vshojo schizo.
Aka, mad 'cause bad. If he hadn't mentioned Vshojo he could've passed as a Tourist.

>> No.16058824

>>16058647
I mean, there's from tourists to tourists, and coming posting shit like that doesn't deserve to be anything less

>> No.16058862
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16058862

fuck this shit, I'm going to sleep

>> No.16058891

>>16058862
>ACCELERATION!

>> No.16059065

>>16058862
What's the VOD views for first part look like?

>> No.16059068
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16059068

>>16058862
Sorry mates, you didn’t poll enough social credit points for 40k.

>> No.16059160

>>16059068
It reached 40,107 tho

>> No.16059193

I want your EN outfit relay predictions, higher or lower than HoloX (on average)?

>> No.16059203

>>16059065
It's at 1m now, and for a 5 hour stream, no way the CCV got as low as YT was showing.

>> No.16059234

>>16059193
Lower. The culling ACCELERATES.

>> No.16059300

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n4Wx88ctT8

>6k peak
>27 minutes long
>Immediately had 44k even before the filtered views are added
yeah ok

>> No.16059392

>>16059300
>open stream
>see ccv still below 10k
>close stream
1m average watch time. it adds up

>> No.16059429

get vaccinated

>> No.16059447

NijiEN guys are blowing up in China. This might be the chance Nijisanji needs to at least take 1st place somewhere.

>> No.16059520

What happened to Hololive? At 1 point they were dominating, and now, a shell of its former self.

Did Rikkun manage to find a mage to counter Yagoo's black magic?

>> No.16059554

>>16059447
isn't orange kuzuha british? that's going to be tricky when the ccp bans all brits for what they pulled in hk

>> No.16059658

>>16059447
No one cares chink. Get out and just keep sucking Xi's tits.

>> No.16059794

>>16059520
He did, but...
He got some 2-bit hack to cast the spell, and unfortunately it backfired. Horribly.
Now it's affecting all sorts of targets and not just Hololive.

>> No.16059846 [DELETED] 

How was ARK numbers back then?

>> No.16059866

>>16059520
releasing ccvid and now it kills everybody including himself

>> No.16059923

>>16059447
Then they better not find out one of them that said taiwan.

>> No.16059969

>>16059447
10,000 chinese count as a real person so even with big numbers there they might not make it

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