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15785092 No.15785092 [Reply] [Original]

Not even 1k viewers for their top talent, literally Niji EN level of views

>> No.15785178

Never liked Koyori, bitch should suffer more.

>> No.15785184

lol THIS was your Gura killer Chloekeks?

>> No.15785284

I was going to say. The hyped died really fast. Yes, I know it's a superchat reading but I would think there would still be at least 1k watching since it's a little over a month for HoloX. Even Ame is beating her. Even Gura's DBD reserve stream has more people waiting than people watching Chloe.

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what did jewtube mean by this

>> No.15785776

>>15785617
It's means people liked the stream and would rather watch the bod later or not watch it at all.
Hope that helps

>> No.15785971

>>15785092
>Streaming right at the hour when people leave for work
No wonder, then. Only the supreme gachikois would watch at this hour.

>> No.15786170

>filter numberfag tourists
>keep gachikoi
Seems like a win-win.

>> No.15786241

>>15785092
>superchat reading
oh come on, can you at least try better?

>> No.15786270

Wow, that is actually kind of....concerning

>> No.15786280

>>15785092
Numer fucking faggot, it's already clearly established Youtube is fucking things up hugely and also inconsistently on live viewers lately. The usual shitpost ammo actually means fucking not much anymore because it's been shown it's fucking hugely off (between 30-50+%) by mid-stream polls.

Your malformed brain can't process that yet it seems.

>> No.15786290

>>15786241
Kiara (the least popular hololive) gets more numbers when she reads supers. Nijisanjis get better numbers ffs

>> No.15786341

>>15785092
even IDs are better than this, this is just embarrassing.

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>>15786280
Luxiem had 11k total watching them with Mysta around 4k viewers for a 5 man collab with 4 POVs. So no. Lol.

>> No.15786414

>>15786280
you know everyone else is also affected,right? this still looks pathetic in comparison
matsuri, who's also affected by the same problem got higher viewers the other day

>> No.15786418

>>15786381
I forgot to mention this actually seems to affect different continents differently as well. Yes fucking really.

>> No.15786427

This is why numbers should be strictly kept to the number threads, us numberfags have known there was a new and heavy cull for days while catalog retards will see this and think Chloe is suddenly a 2view

>> No.15786460

>>15786381
retard bugs only happen to hololive

>> No.15786470

>>15786381
That only means that either 1. They didn't get hit (yet) or 2. They should have even more viewers
The nijijps are getting hit too retard, indies and even non-vtubers are getting the same shit, this isn't a holo only problem

>> No.15786490

>>15786280
Ok Holo brony

>> No.15786538 [DELETED] 

>>15786418
>>15786427
cope, maybe it's time to accept that your whores are inferior, holocels.

>> No.15786543

>>15786470
Tell me smart boy, if everyone's affected why does orca have 900 viewers and Mysta had 4000?

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Mogged by Ame's music player lol

>> No.15786623

>>15786543
Retard, I'm not arguing that Mysta has or doesn't have more viewers, I'm just telling you that the cull is a thing that exists

>> No.15786657

>>15785092
Numberfags are still pretene youtube isn't cutting viewer numbers here is your (you) now go play in traffic

>> No.15786687

>>15786543
I can explain this.
This Youtube "bug" removes viewers that are not from the same region. NijiEN viewers are in EN side. Hololive has a lot of EOPs so if they get removed numbers shake up a lot
Look at Genjiro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIctuuUhCDw
He's known for having considerable EOP fans and his numbers are halved like Holos, but other Nijis not so much since there's few EOPs

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>>15786623
It's ok to admit defeat, poll vote snd viewer discrepancy has been a thing since before HoloX existed so you can't point at that either

>> No.15786699

Even if it is just a superchat stream, that is pathetic for Hololive. Looks like the Holo domination is finally starting to become toppled because of Niji EN men

>> No.15786739

>>15786543
You know the real reason anon: english speaking male chuubas from a major company. They stand out from the huge amount of anime girls people have to choose from. HoloX is unironically a better conceived project overall, but the market is too saturated already.

>> No.15786768

>>15786657
Numberchads have known for a week that YT started culling numbers even more than usual, it's the usual SEA schizos.that use it as shitpost material

>> No.15786778

>>15786687
Why the fuck is his chat full of spanish he doesn't speak that

>> No.15786807

don't let the hate consume you

>> No.15786829

>>15786700
>poll vote snd viewer discrepancy
Anon poll vote is by far the most inaccurate evidence of the recent cull, but you're just a retard baiting so why even explain it to you

>> No.15786844

>>15785184
The only one that can kill Gura is Gura herself at this point.

>> No.15786875

>>15785178
Why dont you like the rape-able cat girl?

>> No.15786893

>>15786699
Feel free to post her total superchat earnings

>> No.15786895

>>15786241
For someone called "gura killer", even if it is a superchat reading stream that number is too low, retarded anon

>> No.15786904

>>15786768
all youtube bots are from India and giga brained pajeet coders just made all foreign viewer numbers removed to purge bots instead of blocking India

>> No.15786943

>>15786829
>takes a live tally of anyone willing to click a button in a minute
>you can't click it more than once
>gets fucking thousands more total votes in a poll than "live" viewer count

Nah it's pretty fucking damning evidence. How is it inaccurate? If anything it's actually undercutting the true-true result because not everyone participates.

>> No.15786951

it's 9am in Japan people are at work! Don't baselessly insult her numbers! Just wait for an evening stream and we'll show you!

>> No.15786971

>>15786895
>For someone called "gura killer"
By Chumbud faggots who use Chloe to shitpost on this board.

>> No.15786979

>>15786280
>1000 / 50% = 2000
doesnt sound anything better anon

>> No.15786996

>>15786290
Not a fair comparison. KFPs fucking love her superchat readings because Kiara's great at chatting, it's literally her best content outside of projects and events she organizes.

>> No.15787029

>>15786829
Maybe because you have no explanation for viewers only decreasing for some people and not others?

>> No.15787060

>>15786971
*t.Not a chumpedo

>> No.15787083

>>15786943
Because it's pure speculation, it does prove that the numbers are lower but it can't say what the real numbers should be, the better evidence is the comparison between FBK's fishing streams or between the recent LIVEs

>> No.15787146

>>15786979
It puts her much closer to her usual SC reads (which were always low) prior to the culling.

In general Chloe however Chloe isn't even the lead HoloX (la+ is) and hasn't been for weeks. It's old news, Chloe is the definition of flash in the pan to an extent we had never even seen before, but generally holds 2nd in the Xs. The one actually-lagging in every way is Lui (which isn't a surprise to me as I always thought she was boring with a mediocre model).

>> No.15787185

>>15787029
How can you know if they decreased for a gen that just fucking released? For all we know the first three gens are actually booming from the homo's success and should have 50% more viewership right now and the homos would also have more viewers

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>>15785092
damn those numbers are wild

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>>15785092
>Month ago
>GuRa KiLLeR!!!!!!!
well?

>> No.15787366

>>15787338
Post SC numbers.

>> No.15787423

>>15787366
Post membership numbers

>> No.15787436

I wonder if chumbuds realized that gura killer is a joke and are merely following along, surely they realized after the 20th time right?

>> No.15787457

>>15787338
Everyone who gets labelled a gura killer is basically cursed.

>> No.15787496

>>15787423
She just fucking opened it anon...

>> No.15787527

>>15787185
You're more ready to believe an individual NijiEN member is secretly an 8k performer rather than people being tired of Chloe? What is this advanced delusion?

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>>15785092
he knew

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>>15787366
>literally the same cope as tatsunokos back in the day

>> No.15787551

>>15786778
>spic spamer
holy cringe
poor guy

>> No.15787585

>>15787527
it's dead hours in japan. EOPs are just not being counted

>> No.15787672

>>15787527
Sure? 8k doesn't seem that crazy with how popular they've gotten, and what's even this correlation, Chloe would have at best 2k anyways, I'm not arguing that she would have more than mysta retard

>> No.15787709

>>15787672
But why wouldn't she, she's a Holo.

>> No.15787760

kek Orca leads the HoloX into obscurity. Good riddance. None of 'em have any qualities to be Hololive greats.

>> No.15787830

>>15787709
Did you just come here to stir shit between niji and holo? No one cares, chloe has been a low tier holo in views for weeks, I'm explaining why she's even LOWER than usual

>> No.15787873

>>15786687
>his Youtube "bug" removes viewers that are not from the same region
Stop making shit up, I can literally open a stream of some JP chuba with 2 viewers and I'll be her third viewer. Literally did this just now, and I'm sure as fuck am not from Japan.

>> No.15787898

>>15787760
it's simple, too quickly, too much, too perfect. Watching your oshi grow as a character, person and streamer is the best thing, holox can't provide that.
Unironically they are the pinnacle of corpochuubas, and every gen next will be like them.

>> No.15787995

>>15785092
She's the Rusia killer. She will dominate in superchats uncontested.

>> No.15788016

>>15785092
This dumb thread is why numberfagging is good. Actual numberfags know the context behind the numbers and why they are the way they are, especially now with the great culling going on.

>> No.15788198

>>15788016
There is no culling, schizo. Vtubing is just dying as an industry.

>> No.15788223

>>15788016
>actual context
I see none

>> No.15788234

>>15788016
Yes yes yes my dear last samurai. When EN numbers are bad, EN is declining but when JP numbers are even worse than EN, it's the "cull". Your cope is pathetic. HoloX failed fast and that's that.

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>>15785092
>Chumbuds need to rely on mommy Susan to nerf her after the New Years Eve massacre
Is anyone excited for Gura's numbers tonight with the current state of youtube.

>> No.15788462

>>15787541
>tries to get Susan to undo EN’s CCV cull
>she slaps JP with it instead
Omega can’t do anything right.

>> No.15788863

>>15786829
>most inaccurate evidence
You should've said most imprecise evidence. Inaccurate carries the connotation of being wrong or off. Poll numbers are useful as it is the most blatant evidence to someone who is not a numberfag that something is wrong. Graphs & stats don't convince the public because the public doesn't "trust" math and thinks it's a scam. Poll numbers are blatant, because voting requires an account, and there should never be a poll with over 100% participation in a minute. Everyone knows 100% participation would require everyone being logged into their youtube account, with chat open, and voting within the first minute, which is absolutely ridiculous and implausible. For it to be over 100% just shows that youtube numbers are fucked beyond belief. Even if doesn't tell you how precisely it's fucked, which other stats gathered do, it's the most appealing method to someone who knows nothing about how to read graphs or interpret numbers or statistics.

>> No.15788964

>>15785776
DYRBI

>> No.15789107

>numberfagging a early morning superchat stream
Numberfagging is a mental illness

>> No.15789246

>>15789107
I agree. But still, this is rather alarming. Hololive is known throughout the industry as the great titans that nobody else can match. To see a hololive stream get under 1000 views is......wow

>> No.15789332

>NOOOOOOO THERE'S THIS ONE BUG THAT ONLY AFFECT HOLOLIVE SUSAN IS OUT TO GET THEM
And it doesn't seem like people are pretending to be delusional. I can't take this anymore man.

>> No.15789356

>>15786895
>>15786971
People call Chloe the "Gura Killer" because she's an orca, you braindead retards

>> No.15789399

>>15789246
We need Oga to have a buff stream where he gets over 1k views while Chloe is in a superchat reading stream so that justice can finally be achieved in this world.

>> No.15789725

>>15785092
Hasn't it been proven the JewTube live viewer counts are under reported?

>> No.15789819

>>15789356
No they don't, you coping orcafaggot.

>> No.15789906

Susan is bugging. The proof is that right now Sana has more viewers than Polka and Watame.

That's all the evidence you need.

>> No.15789995

>>15788234
Retardchama, EN is getting affected even more now, do you believe the NY were as low as they were?

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>>15786418

>> No.15790108

>>15789246
No anon, they never were, Roboco has existed since forever, hololive has the most standout talents, doesn't mean that every single talent will be a standout

>> No.15790180

>>15789995
If you are gonna answer me, at least comprehend what I'm saying you stupid fucking nigger. kys

>> No.15790373

>>15790180
>shitposter expects to get taken seriously
I'm sorry anon-sama forgive me I kneel...

>> No.15790961

>>15789356
>>15789356
I dont think so braindead anon, i saw the word "gura killer" being thrown here on vt, and i dont think vt cares about "orca kills shark" shit, especially the numberfags, retard

>> No.15791145

>>15790961
Gura killer is a fucking meme, maybe it was serious the first time it's not serious anymore, as soon as chloe changed her character to an orca everyone said she was the gura killer

>> No.15791314

>>15788964
as someone who almost never watches streams as they happen and gets to vods later because of being busy most of the time? yes.jpg
>numberfags caring more than the streamers themselves do
take your meds. count them a few times, before swallowing, even, if you need to obsess over numbers that much.

>> No.15791510

>>15791314
>I do this therefore the majority must do it too
What an argument
>>numberfags caring more than the streamers themselves do
You know holos get sponsors and deal based on numbers right? One already complained about this, of course they fucking care, most just don't show it on stream

>> No.15791641

>>15786280
I like how Holobrony like to talk about numbers until they’re low.

>> No.15791652

>>15791510
> retards who can't accept the vtubing boom has finally popped

>> No.15791670

>>15789906
It's 10 a.m in Japan, you imbecile.

>> No.15791827

Explain these retards
https://litter.catbox.moe/lt4tdw.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/o24fc6.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/saj4rx.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/l2u56j.jpg

>> No.15791870

>>15791670
Don't bother, that won't fit in his "brown girl bad" narrative.

>> No.15791941

>>15791145
Thats why i said "here on vt", gura killer can be understood as orcas kill sharks or chloe surpassing gura in terms of numbers, and incase you dont know youre here on vt, which i think cares more about the latter. Learn how to fcking read

>> No.15792077

>>15791827
They can't. They're braindead idiots that choose to believe whatever they can shit out.
Some are just falseflagging which is even more pathetic. As if they couldn't be anymore of a loser.

>> No.15792217

>>15791827
What makes you think that your graphs are right? Are those actually from youtube?

>> No.15792261

>>15791941
Gura killer is a joke just on fucking /vt/ retard, the entire fucking point of calling chloe the gura killer was that it was an overused meme and she's actually a gura killer (orca), holy shit chumbuds actually took the shitposting seriously

>> No.15792282

>>15786687
>This Youtube "bug" removes viewers that are not from the same region
But Mysta's said he has a (slight, I assume) majority JP viewers.
>>15786543
I mean, the bug is well known. Chloe should probably have at least 1500 and Mysta's probably got 5kish, maybe 6k. So yes the OP is wrong, but it's not because the bug isn't real. It's because for the (one of the) most popular in the newest gen she's actually got BELOW NijiEN level views.

>> No.15792316

>>15792217
why are you pretending to be retarded?

>> No.15792354

>>15791652
Funny how the vtuber scene died a month after holox broke viewership records, damn I guess everyone died from covid

>> No.15792375

>>15792316
So they aren't. Cope harder.

>> No.15792436

>>15791827
>https://litter.catbox.moe/l2u56j.jpg
>he thinks filthy EOPs actually have proper attention span to properly stick around streams and not just click vote and leave

>> No.15792468

>>15792375
>Cope
I accept your confession

>> No.15792478

>>15792316
Because you replied anon

>> No.15792550

>>15792436
what?

>> No.15792592

>>15792436
Anonchama that's the wrong link...
Also it was fucking one minute, and there's no fucking way you can have a 100% vote to viewer ratio in reality

>> No.15792615

>>15792282 (Me)
Oh, addition to the Mysta point: The other theory I've heard is that YT doesn't count viewers with an ad blocker, and that does make sense. Most (or at least more) EN viewers use adblock compared to JP ones, so it makes sense JPs with a lot of EOP viewers would get more of a cut than the reverse.

>> No.15792709

>>15786687
>NijiEN viewers are in EN side
Have you seen what sort of currency they get for SC? Also keep in mind what time they often stream at.

>> No.15792765

>>15792354
You want me to explain what happened?

>"Wow shiny new thing! That was nice. Anyway-"

Those viewership records are a mix of EOPS who were there to just hear cute noises and JP who wanted to see shiny new thing. Honeymoon phase wore off and they all came back to their respective holes.

What you expect people to stay forever? fuck off.

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>>15792316

>> No.15792801

>>15792615
EVERYONE uses adblock, you can't browse a nip site without getting cancer if you don't have adblock, this "Only western people use adblock" is a myth

>> No.15792869

>>15792615
Youtube hasn't counted people who use adblock for years. It's always been the case and so is a complete non-factor with what's been going on recently.

>> No.15792949

>>15791827
Copium

>> No.15792959

>>15792765
Damn I guess the scene is dea- oh wait niji got a 140k+ stream just last fucking week, let me guess the scene is dead since they couldn't get 200k despite having every member on board? Please make up something better than me I want a good laugh

>> No.15793010

>>15792959
Which stream?

>> No.15793120

>>15793010
The niji unit music festival

>> No.15793137

>>15785092
people saw the scam threads on twitter
its expected that they would leave after that

>> No.15793169

>>15789107
The numberfags actually sussed out that it was YouTube invalidating viewers who exited a still ongoing stream to watch another. Shit threads like this are the work of schizos and trolls.

>> No.15793223

>>15792959
It was a huge event, so it gets huge viewers. Simple as.

Fuckin Superchat readings and non-gimmick streams don't get numbers. Simple as.

Like i said. their honeymoon phase just wore off.

>> No.15793296

I'm not a hololive fan. But I've always thought of them as this big machine that was absolutely unstoppable. How is this possible? Isn't this girl some hololive superstar with millions of subs? How can she get under 1000 views for any stream, even a superchat stream?

>> No.15793303

>>15793010
he's talking about NJU, literal gathering of Niji's heavy hitters for a literal two parter total 6 hour event of 3d lives.

had about 180k viewers at peak

>> No.15793399

>>15793296
lots of holo subs are literally dead subs who just subscribe for the sake of it cuz it's cool to do so.

>> No.15793410

>>15793223
>retard outed himself
So the scene isn't actually dead and you're just shitposting against holo, you're not a nijifag either so what are you doing here?

>> No.15793442

>>15792869
Wait so I've never been counted as a viewer

>> No.15793463

>>15789107
Why do you always autodefault into that shitty excuse? Faggot Coco became the #1 most superchatted youtuber in the world thanks to her early morning streams

>> No.15793511

>>15793296
>But I've always thought of them as this big machine that was absolutely unstoppable.
Roboco has existed for years, stop shitposting. Pekora and marine does not equal the entirety of hololive

>> No.15793539

>>15793296
>no new ID
in case you really are a complete newfag, its someone that literally just joined hololive

>> No.15793591

>>15793442
Nope.

>> No.15793599

>>15793442
I'm pretty sure what he's saying is not the case.

I you want to test if your view counts, go to a waiting-room, see if the views increases as soon as you show up. A waiting room is basically a stream that is scheduled a year or more in advance, which provides a chat box for the vtuber's fans if they want to chat. Several vtubers use waiting rooms. Most of the time, they only have like 1 viewer watching them. So they are idea to test if your views are counting. When I visit a waiting room, I can see the viewcounter go up.

>> No.15793605

>likes ratio higher than live viewerships in mid and high tier jp streamers
>there's nothing wrong with it

>> No.15793625

>>15793303
Probably would have gotten more without CCV culling too. Kanae’s most recent stream seems to have gotten hit too, so it’s not a Hololive-exclusive thing now.

>> No.15793677

>>15793605
> not counting that people can just like and leave a stream


Literal retard.

>> No.15793734

>>15786996
>it's literally her best content
kfp posting their Ls

>> No.15793739

>>15793605
Anon they put up those streams for free chat days in advance
Stop pretending to be retarded for 1 day in your life

>> No.15793738

>>15786875
She does morning streams that make me fall asleep. Boring hag that is not even breedable.

>> No.15793745

>>15793677
jp fags rarely put a like retard unlike en and id

>> No.15793752

>>15793677
>not counting that people can never give a like and just watch the stream

Literal retard.

>> No.15793844

>>15793739
>>15793752

>> No.15793848

>>15793745
so you're not taking into account that those "overwhelming likes" are literally just filthy EOPs who will never be japanese and just showing blind support?

>> No.15793851

>>15793410
He's a chronic threadreader who has /vt/ as his oshi.

>> No.15793855

>>15785092
Mysta gets 7k though
NijiEN numbers aren't a joke since Luxiem

>> No.15793913

>>15793739
miko morning stream from few days ago was sudden and it had 12k likes and peaked at 7k viewers

>> No.15793936

>>15793855
Yeah but unfortunately the success of the boys hasn't really carried over to boosting the girls at all. I'm not a girl, so I'm not really that interested in the boys

>> No.15793935

>>15793855
Debut buff dropped so now he is down to 3k (rapidly dropping daily)
Unfortunately they are.

>> No.15793952

>>15793855
Would you really argue that Reimu isn't a joke
Just say that Luxiem is huge, no need to include the rest

>> No.15793999

>>15793848
>mid tier holos and high tier holos
>eops more than jops

>> No.15794121

>>15793935
This is not true anon.
Mysta is getting about 7k viewers when he streams during asian hours. He is getting 4k when he streams during American hours. All of the boys are getting much higher views during asian hours. Since most of them are in Europe, they can easily just schedule one stream for the morning, and one for the evening, and hit both markets in the same day

>> No.15794139

>>15787188
dont post that to the nips, theyre gonna mald over that KEKW

>> No.15794212

>>15793999
You already said that JPfags rarely put a like. So why are you going back on your statement?

>> No.15794426

how can someone be this retarded?

>> No.15794503

>>15794121
Going by that logic the same would be happening with the previous 3 gens, which isnt.

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>>15793739
Today we have Luna's anniversary
Right now it's 1500 likes.
Someone please take a screenshot of the number of likes at 30 minutes before, 5 minutes before it start, when it starts, 5 minutes into it, 30 minutes into it, and exactly when it ends.
Right now the 1500 people who liked already are probably hardcore luknights that will watch the stream and not just EOPs showing support. But if anyone wants to take screenshots they can see how much is likes beforehand from EOPs who don't stick around and watch, vs. likes that happened between the start and the end of it. Plus its a fucking music live, so since you don't need to understand Japanese so EOPs putting a like and ditching midway through doesn't make sense. We literally have a perfect chance to disprove that the likes come from EOPs liking beforehand that don't watch.

>> No.15795228

>>15786951
True
It’s a superchat anyway. Anti OP is both a brainlet and a faggot, possibly a seething nijinig

>> No.15795353

>>15785092
They fell off + ratio + L + the hood watches Pekora now

>> No.15795555

Its not that they are directly nerfing the numbers for specific streams, its that they are mass un-personing anyone that watches multiple streams per day or have more than 1 stream open at once, but they only are doing this to logged-in accounts.

You can test this on a 0view.
Open up a 0view stream, even with adblock it will count you.
Now open another, it will still show you contributing a view in the currently active tab, this was as it was previously.
But as soon as you open a 3rd you no longer will contribute a view. Even if you disable adblock and close the other streams you dont give a view anymore.
You have to close out every single youtube tab(including non-streams) before you will contribute a liveview again. This can even happen if you only have 1 stream open but switch between a few streams over a few hours, and the only way to reset it is to completely disconnect from youtube on all tabs.

If you do the same thing with a not logged in tab/incognito it doesnt do this, it never will un-viewer you even if you open a bunch of streams at once it will always contribute the 1 view to the active tab.

>> No.15795644

>>15795555
>Open up a 0view stream, even with adblock it will count you.
I watch actual real 2views and I never count as a viewer even if the chat participants counts me as the 3rd person in chat

>> No.15795740

>>15795555
So if I'm listening to music in youtube on one tab and have a stream open in another I don't contribute a view?

>> No.15795797

>>15795740
if you had previously opened a few other streams in sequence or at the same time yes.

>> No.15795822

>>15795555
Why would you be watching 3 streams at once?

>> No.15795923

>>15795555
Is the view counted after the stream ends or in the viewing time statistics of the video in this case?
I have 50+ tabs open and many with youtube videos even if I only watch 1 stream.
It could mean people like me would be completely ignored.

What a fucked up algorithm.

>> No.15796018

>>15791670
>>15791870
t. Person of anicolor coping.

>> No.15796032

>>15795822
Retarded holofags that think it's "unity".

>> No.15796074

>>15795822
Having too many vtubers you like can be a curse too.
You end up watching everything at the same time.

It's possible to watch 2-3 streams at the same time depending on the content.

>> No.15796090

>>15795822
multiple perspective tournament, watching one while killing time for another to actually go active, listening to one while watching a more visually exciting stream, there are plenty of reasons.

>>15795923
Im talking about Live-view, not post-stream views which are completely unaffected.
They fucked up only the live views because if they fucked with the other views this badly they couldnt hide it.

>> No.15796101

>>15796018
> saying it's niji when it's a person coping that Chloe's views are low cuz it's in the morning

is this how low you guys go? the moment you're losing in an argument you guys deflect it to the other side without any sense or reason?

>> No.15796155

>>15796032
I mean it makes sense why would YouTube give you a view for having 3 streams open obviously you aren’t watching all of them at once.

>> No.15796190

>>15796090
That's good to know.
But why is youtube sabotaging its platform and trying to hide it?

>> No.15796248

>>15796155
Honestly this is good to not count it cuz yeah realistically you can't watch that many streams as a human being.

>> No.15796280

>>15796101
Either lurk more or go back to your discord cesspool.

>> No.15796290

>>15795555
If this is the case, when's the next Apex tournament? Because views should tank severely for essentially everyone involved.

>> No.15796331

>>15796155
it already countered that by only giving the view to the one the currently focused browser tab, and embedded videos dont give views.

>>15796190
Because they are incompetent, or doing it for non-monetary reasons.
The same reason they are sabotaging vtubers in general by excluding them from all the categories like YoutubeGaming, you could have multiple vtuber streams with 20k+ playing a game and youtube gaming would completely exclude them and say 6.9k are watching others play the game.

>> No.15796345

>>15795555
Multiple streams per day makes more sense than streams-open-at-once. I cannot believe that most normalfags with shitty computers/on mobile/single monitors open multiple streams at once most of the time.

>> No.15796441

>>15796155
Depends how you define watching.
For someone with a high IQ, it's possible to listen to multiple streams at once easily and they will fall asleep if they don't have enough stimulation.
In this case having only one stream is often not enough to keep the bare level of attention to not fall asleep.

In that case you have the option of multi tasking or watching multiple streams.

>>15796248
It seems the devs of the algorithm think that it's not possible to be different from their norm and watch multiple streams, but that's not the case.

>> No.15796447

Hololive needs to stop spreading their viewership thin.
They shouldn't add more generations until we get a few graduations.

>> No.15796479

>>15785178
I don't think you're a good person.
-anonymous

>> No.15796579

>>15796280
> immediately resort to insults when he can't make proper responses

Like fucking clockwork.

never change /vt/

>> No.15796626

>>15796345
its both. If you watch like 5 or 6 streams a day they might or might not un-viewer you.
But if you open say 3 streams at once because its amongus or something and you want multiple perspectives it almost guarenteed will un-viewer you.
But NONE of this applies to those not logged in. So the fucking Pajeets coding it probably accidentally did it for logged-in instead of not-logged-in.

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15796734

Unironically, lurk a bit in the numbers thread.
Here's an example, Towa's 3D live anniversary with stacked as fucked guests only got 23k, even lower than what she got singing for 30 minutes during the xmas relay.
DYRB?

>> No.15796782

>>15796447
Be careful what you wish for.
A monkey paw would make your wish come true by graduating the vtubers with a high number of viewers to replace them with psychopaths no one wants to see.

Hololive entered its final phase of growth before the decline after Coco's bullying and removal.
In a few years they will have new competition taking over the throne.

>> No.15796845

>>15796447
I don't think its about spreading their viewerbase thin, but they either should get more game permissions, look for more Botan-tier gamers, or get people that can fill in more timeslots I guess. Because right now Holo doesnt really need to worry about "viewership" when they're at the top.

>> No.15796848

>>15785617
I love sitting in stream chat then leaving like 1/2 - 2/3 of the chat the moment it starts!

>> No.15796900

>>15796734
Maybe people are bored. If it was Niji you'd be hollerin' with glee.

>> No.15796953

>>15796155
There exists this thing called a "Monitor". Dont know if your 3rd world country got these yet, some people arent stuck in 1960s with 1 monitor

>> No.15796993

>>15793738
I disagree, she is extremely breedable

>> No.15797076

>>15796734
>Unironically, lurk a bit in the numbers thread.
That's like telling someone to cut their balls off for fun.

>> No.15797321

>>15796900
Yeah sure a third of the Holofans just lost interest overnight. A loss of interest doesn't happen massively.
>bringing tribalshit into this
Nijis are also somewhat affected >>15785254
so speak for yourself, fag
>>15797076
Better than listening to most of the retards here who don't know what they're talking about.

>> No.15797514

>>15786290
Kiara's very far from being the least popular holo. Even in holoen she's generally around the bottom middle, depending on what Ame and Ina are doing.

>> No.15797521

>>15797321
>Better than listening to most of the retards here who don't know what they're talking about.
No, it really isn't. Shitposters are shitposters but numberfags are actual retards.

>> No.15797594

>>15797521
And yet here you are.

>> No.15797618

Pekora is coming for your oshi. Bitches shouldn't've got costumes so close to hers. At least Korone got joke ones.

>> No.15797808

>>15745210

>> No.15797880

>>15797594
It's easy to spot a SEAnigger when they don't understand what they read and then write a gotcha that has nothing to do with anything. Good job my small brown friend, you tried.

>> No.15797938

>>15796845
I don't get why they can't get just blanket permissions from the major publishers.

>> No.15797990

>>15796441
>>15796953
I mean either way if you want to watch 3 streams you can but it’s not counted for one of them which makes sense. Why does it matter if your view isn’t there either way you’re watching it.

>> No.15798009

>>15797808
I-I am a bot??

>> No.15798072

>>15785092
>Council is a failure
>HoloX is a failure
Hololive is declining and that is a fact.

>> No.15798088

>>15793855
The fucking Manjisanji meme has grown truer with EN wave 4.

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15798214

>>15796734
To add to my point. If you still think that there's nothing wrong with YouTube you're a lost cause
>>15798009
Might be. If you behave like one you would become a ghost and never counted as a view ever again

>> No.15798500

>>15798072
>Hololive has 1 bad day = fucking failures
>Nijisanji has 1 good day = kneel bitches

>> No.15798592

>>15798072
Chloe made 9million yen in the stream when she opened her superchats

>> No.15798702

>>15795644
I have experienced this too in streams with 5 or less concurrents. I see "4 watching", join, and am clearly one of five total in chat.
Then checking the channel listing (not even in another tab, but using phone to test), it's still "4 watching" as if I don't count.

>> No.15798731

>>15798214
>If you behave like one
what does that even mean?

>> No.15799020

>>15798731
Ask Jewtube. >>15774144
Yes, having premium won't save you >>15780049

>> No.15799033

Well I just tried the experiment with watching a free chat while logged in and then while logged out. Even tried some stuff with VPNs. At no point was I counted as a viewer. I don't get how numberfags can speak with such certainty about this shit?

>> No.15799489

>>15799033
>At no point was I counted as a viewer
That's supposed to be normal?

>> No.15799709

>>15785776
ok susan
now fix your platform, you're fooling nobody

>> No.15799711

>>15799489
In incognito mode on the desktop website, not logged in?

>> No.15799823

>>15799711
That should count you as a viewer more than it shouldn't. What's wrong with your device lol

>> No.15799851

>>15798214
Multi stream is being banned, the gap you see here are people using holotools.

>> No.15799965

>>15799823
I don't know, but my point is that there is no consistency to this.

>> No.15800027

>>15799851
That was already the case since December 2020, also there was no other Holo streams ongoing except for Mori's
Unless people just decided to use Holodex or something for a single stream like a weirdo.
>>15799965
Fair enough.

>> No.15800527

>>15799851
embedded video haven't contributed to viewer count for over a year.

>> No.15800718

>>15800527
That's not true, I was wathcing a 2 view that was shilled here, and my view was there. I was the 4th anon watching her.

>> No.15800821

>>15786844
Jesus christ you are a literal wowcuck, you even post the same shit

>> No.15800842

>>15799851
>holotools
>for a stream that was the only stream happening at that time.

>> No.15800970

>>15800821
It was true for WoW too though, for basically the same reason. Most people don't care about numbers or whatever. They want the thing they came for, not something similar, not even something better. You can't replace it, you can only make something different enough to get it's own audience and wait for the giant to die.

>> No.15801105

>>15787541
Troon, if you killed the Bogdanoff bro's Sminem will rain hell on you

>> No.15801583

>>15800718
i tested it a few weeks ago on a 0view stream, if i opened on youtube it counted and if i opened through an embed it didnt.

>> No.15803053

>>15797938
I don't think any company will never understand permissions due to Japan's batshit legal system. It seems like for the most part they have it for SEGA/Nintendo stuff with Korone's streams, but it's this weird situation where it doesn't apply to everything like Atlus games, or Capcom stuff where you could stream the game but you can't show the endings for some streamers, even if the game is old as fuck.

>> No.15803258

>>15785092
Oh nyo my Gura killer, what is going on? How can I be the superior weeb if my Gura killer fails this hard.

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15808455

>be chumfuck/enniggers/nijinigs
>see chuuba with even the slightest hint of potential
>muh gura killer falseflagging ensues
>chuuba stabilizes to their real numbers
>grudgeposting ensues
It's beyond tiresome at this point

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