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15649355 No.15649355 [Reply] [Original]

Why did Gen 6 got a new outfit a month after debut while HoloEN gen 2 got none after 4 months?

>> No.15649476

Maybe they're miserable people irl and their illustrators don't want to work with them until they absolutely have to. Happened once before.

>> No.15649508

>>15649355
cultural differences OP
EN gen1 even got formal outfits that jps didn't have

>> No.15649535
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>>15649355
This is why.

>> No.15649550

>No 3D
>No new years (not even for IRyS)
>Just some lousy song covers
Cover clearly doesn't give a fuck about Myth or Council

>> No.15649571

Council haven't been working hard honestly, I hope 2022 changes them, Mumei and Bae are the only hustlers

>> No.15649610

only jp gets new years outfits

>> No.15649629

>>15649355
cause they planned it all 6 months ago...

>> No.15649653

because kimonos arent for EN and they aren't just gonna skip Gen6 just because they are so recent

>> No.15649746

>>15649550
Ame did put 3D as a "goal" for this year, so I imagine it is happening this year or at least thats the goal for management

>> No.15649749

>>15649355
>HoloEN gen 2
More like HoloEN gen WHO? They get shit numbers so they don't deserve anything.

>> No.15649846

>>15649355
couple things i can think of in my head
>They are all in JP, so getting them onstage to ride their hype makes far more sense
>Basically each girl was designed to replace a person they either can't get into JP ATM, or are basically done with (Chloe is clearly Ayames one up, Iroha is the generic blonde/blue eyed girl to replace Ame, La+ is very clearly a kusogaki to replace Gura since neither of the big 2 girls in Myth can be bothered to learn nihongo)

>> No.15650080

>>15649746
ID and EN are supposed to get 3D but likely won't happen until after covid is gone

>> No.15650181

>>15649355
traditions my friend
>JP always have special costumes for new years
>ID always have special costumes around August
EN? nothing

>> No.15650250

>>15650080
The coof is THE reason why it hasn't happened yet. Cover wants to fly IN and EN to Japan have them do a live where they can sing and dance on stage.

>> No.15650264

>>15649535
Cover fucked Haachama? Yagoo A-chan how could you!

>> No.15650426

>>15649355
Because New Years'

>> No.15650572

>>15650250
I can't see YAGOO Footing a bill for 10 girls to JP for i can guess 5 events? Lunar new year, standard new year, anniversary, special event 1, special event 2

>> No.15650713

the most realistic thing I can think of is that they were supposed to debut in summer but they couldn't have them debut so close to Coco's graduation alongside the rest of summer being so busy with events, so their debuts were delayed but they proceeded with outfit plans as planned.

>> No.15650770

>>15650572
It's literally the reason it hasn't happened yet, ID1 is ready to go but they can't get into the country to do the debut. Myth are probably ready too.

>> No.15650855

>>15650770
I'm sure it'll happen, i'm saying i think barring a few major events, they'll mocap in JP and have the girls show up somewhere to do group recording elsewhere

>> No.15650897

>>15650572
Bro the money they'll get back from those 3D streams will make those bills look like pennies.

>> No.15650914

>>15650181
by the relevance of major events you'd think they would have christmas costumes

>> No.15650918

>>15650572
They may have a plan for long-term 3D usage, but want the 3D debut to be in a proper studio. It's unlikely that Cover wants them in Japan every 2-3 months.

>> No.15651039

>>15650250
>go to japan for one 3d live
>never see each other again
>use home 3d occasionally
Cover is fucking dumb. They could have had 3D a long time ago

>> No.15651081
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>>15649355
I see this question a lot but let me explain
To the japs, New Years is a literal spiritual holiday in Shinto, it's not just listening to Frank Sinatra when NYC media frenzy happens and then everyone goes to bed and life moves on
They have special ceremonies, clothing, etc

Now tell me, how the fuck do you specially design an outfit or theme for two leafs, two Australians and a burger? What can they have in common as westerners/not Japs?
Even they struggled with the new EN theme for myth, note those aren't "New Years" outfits, they literally called them "party dresses"

>> No.15651574

>>15651039
I guess they want to have some big event out of them and cant trust that the girls could do it without JP management

>> No.15651575

>>15649355
HoloJP get New Year’s outfits ASAP unless they debuted at the end of December like Gen 4 or get redesigned like Nene.
>>15649476
The flaw there is that Pako is a constant presence in Sana’s streams and Azure recently streamed himself drawing Mumei.
>>15649571
Mumei cut her break short because she’d rather stream than spend time with her family. She’s less of a hustler and more of an addict at this point.

>> No.15651692

>>15649355
New Years kimonos are a huge deal in Japan. Not so much in the real world.

>> No.15651985

>>15649476
when

>> No.15652146

>>15651081
This

>> No.15652169

>>15649550
ID gen 1 actually already have their 3D but they can't do the stream because covet

>> No.15652225

>>15651985
kana

>> No.15652266
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>>15651081
>new EN theme for myth
this is what happens when you let larping snowflakes in charge of public image.
all their grand designs crash like unglued card house at most minor alterations

Even at JP side they realized after gen2 that talents may or may not stick to their lore and you just gotta deal with it.

>> No.15652522

>>15652266
NTA but he's clearly talking about an outfit theme for EN around a (primarily) anglophone public holiday, like the Japanese have with New Years, and not whatever weird twitter tranny axe you have to grind.

>> No.15652646

>>15651081
Christmas and Easter are significant holidays in those countries.

>> No.15652700

>>15652646
Christmas, yes. Easter? Not really unless we are talking about orthodox countries

>> No.15652914

>>15652646
There's not really a mass-adopted style of dress for those times of year, though.

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>>15649355
I'm willing to bet they're going to get 3D models before EN and ID as well. Hell, I'm sure even NijiEN will get their 3D models before the Holos. They already have really good VR chibi models, made by their company, while Myth had to make their own.

>> No.15652977

>>15652225
Kana is a piece of shit, but t'was Nacho that fucked Kana first

>> No.15653197

>>15650914
No, that's for JP too.

>> No.15653239

>>15652977
lmao

>> No.15653267

>>15652937
>I'm willing to bet they're going to get 3D models before EN and ID
Oh, 100%. 3D is usually ~6 months after debut? Even if Japan is opened up by then, I doubt either branch has planned it to the point where they're ready to just go to Japan.

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>>15649355
We all know the reason so what's the point of these threads? Holox is streaming like 5-6 days a week, all of them, while Council is some fairweather blue skies warm air kind of thing where they don't stream for long periods unless it's perfect conditions and even then you'll get only one of them streaming 5 days a week and the other four of them will be streaming 0-2 days a week. Why does cover have to pay out of their pockets to outfit people who don't give a shit? It's like saying Ayame has been there longer than most of them but hasn't gotten a new outfit in ages- why the fuck would they when she streams like 1-3 times a month? Literally would be a waste of money.

>> No.15654130

>>15652522
well it shouldn't be rocket science to come up with uniform lineup
but I can see genderless space cow might have trouble picking clothes for the occasion(and I'm fairly sure he has a saying in this)

>> No.15655439

>>15653267
NijiEN has a line in front of them to get the debut too, if Japan opened tomorrow their debut would be at earliest in November.

>> No.15655561

>>15649355
Chloe (and her gen, maybe) were just hat bug of a cash cow for Yagoo.

>> No.15655605

>>15655561 (me)
That big*

>> No.15655801

>>15655561
>1. Sakamata Chloe - $277,927
>2. Kazama Iroha - $201,945
>3. Hakui Koyori - $143,866
>4. Laplus Darknesss - $135,391
>13. Takane Lui - $70,844

>> No.15655866

>>15649355
They're really working out that cleavage huh?

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