/numbers/ - numberfag thread

[Anonymous No.]

realistically speaking, is it possible for gura to be the first to hit 3m?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1541661
Gura's sub count is the biggest meme. Her sc revenue and live watchers for each stream is pathetic.

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>>1541661
Some anon did the calculations, look it up in the /jp/ archive. Short answer is yes, definitely.

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>>1541661
It will never happen. Chumbuds are setting themselves up to be let down.

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>>1541708
She makes more than everyone else in hololive on membership alone

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>>1541849
There are literally no reliable stats for memberships

[Anonymous No.]

>>1541708
more subs means more members. if anything it's more secure than sc because the income are more guaranteed without relying on luck.

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>>1541889
You can see the number of people voting in member-only community poll. That's the minimum number of members possible. Gura has 14000 members at minimum.

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>>1541889
she's generating at least $55,000 a month, retard.

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>>1541889
>>1431409

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>>1542050
>he thinks every single members pays $5
Oh, you sweet naive child.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1542137
>AT LEAST
nigger, I know she's making more. that's probably not even half her membership numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1541982
You can't compare that to others though, most of my membered holos have never done a members only poll
>>1542050
And Coco made $125,000 more than her in superchats last month LMAO, she could have 0 members and still make a shitton more money

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>>1542182
He means that some people are membering with ARS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1542248
a bit off topic, but is it really the lowest currency for now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1542240
>And Coco made $125,000 more than her in superchats last month LMAO
ogey
>>1542248
I forgot about those faggots

[Anonymous No.]

>>1541708
>live viewers
Constantly more then any Vtuber period

[Anonymous No.]

>>1542417
She's actually #3 behind the Rabbit and the Vampire but yes, she's definitely still very high up there in live viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1542479
she's behind marine too isn't she

[Anonymous No.]

>>1542479
>the Vampire
Kuzuha? Does he gets that many live viewers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1542479
Pirate too so she's #4, still very good but she has twice their subs

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>>1542522
He's #1, apparently fujos love Apex

[Anonymous No.]

>>1542479
It's doesn't really matter since she has higher VoD viewership and like to viewer ration than any of them
Live viewership has been fucked since October

[Anonymous No.]

>>1541661
Guras sub count has seemed to slow down a bit. She'll get to 3m eventually but before kizuna gets 60k more? Very unlikely. If her subcount was going up like it was on the way to 1m then maybe but still less likely.

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>>1542381
Coco actually make more, last month she got US$175K superchat (before YT cut)
https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-superchatted-all-channels-in-worldwide-monthly

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>>1541661
she already hit 3 million on cuteness

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>>1542596
since mid december*, october is just one month after her debut where she was still getting 60k viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>1542601
At both of their current growth rates, Gura will be at 2.81m when Kizuna reaches 3m.

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>>1542616
175k vs 50k for Gura, so 125k more for Coco than Gura is what I meant. But I'm not going to bother replying to a guy who gets his narrative that Gura is the top earner destroyed and replies with ogey

[Anonymous No.]

>>1542669
>since mid december
Yeah you're right, I went to go find this
>>1520240
Youtube is such a shit website lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>1541735
That was quite a few weeks ago. Gura has slowed down a bit since then and Kizuna had a concert that sped her up.

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>>1542496
>>1542545
Ah, usually I see Gura above Marine, but she's had a really good last 15 days with the off collab and Genocide putting her up by 500. If you average it a bit further Gura pulls above but I guess there's no point cherry picking streams like that.

[Anonymous No.]

numberfags, are any of you unable to comfortably watch streams with less than 4 digit viewer count? that few viewers feels so awkward as if they're talking to themselves

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>>1541708
By that metric, Kizuna Ai's is too

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>>1542875
I don't even look at viewership while watching streams. I might look at it after the stream though.

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>>1542479
Out of interest does the average viewers for Pekora and Marine take into account streams from 2019? Because that's not a fair comparison at all if it does

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>>1542954
no, they mean live viewership when they are online

Youtube analytics say Gura's has been around 15-20k average recently while Pekora's and Marine's have been about 20-30k

But what doesn't make sense is when the stream ends, Gura has about 200-300k total views while Pekora and Marine have about 70-100k

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>>1542954
It was before the hololive boom. They were averaging 2k viewers. Do you think it shoud be added?

[Anonymous No.]

tell me the names of some legitimately unironically actually dead vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>1543042
Kaguya Luna

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>>1542707
Well dang. Kizuna is on her way out then. With those numbers it could go up. Sounds like a good amount of time we might have new EN/JP which should spike some viewership around the board.

[Anonymous No.]

At current growth rates, Ai will hit 3m in June and Gura will hit 3m in August. Ai was supposed to have a US virtual tour this month that would have been a boost, but there's been no news about it so it's probably delayed. If Gura's growth rate keeps slowing down though, that will just push her hitting 3m to even later in the year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1543032
People have been speculating that Youtube has a higher chance of flagging viewers from areas of the world outside of the channel's nationality. Since all of HoloEN's channels are "Japanese", they say that their live view count is impacted more heavily than those of HoloJP.

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>>1543042
haachama

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>>1542739
Since this is the "numbers thread" anyways, just saying that there's no evidence behind youtube having a live viewer bug, especially with flimsy evidence like Like to Live Viewer ratios.

Most of EN have very high like ratios in the first place and the ratio is much more correlated with the type of content you produce and reminding your viewership to like rather than any bug. The current like ratio on that video is >9.5%.

>>1542954
No, if you mouse over the info, playboard tells you they take the averages from the last 15 days only.

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>>1543042
Gibara.

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>>1543110
Cope harder faggot

RABBIT AND PIRATE MOG SHARK.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1542796
People who want to try and prove something will cherry pick as hard as they can.

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>>1542381

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>>1543180
I'm just replying to >>1543032
>But what doesn't make sense is when the stream ends, Gura has about 200-300k total views while Pekora and Marine have about 70-100k
and giving the justification some other people have come up with. Why are numberfags like you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1541661
We need Pewdiepie's help, he's the only one who can make Gura win this race.

[Anonymous No.]

If numbers were a basis for being "good", then Justin Bieber is a great music artist?

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>>1543110
That is interesting. Could be why something like guras first terraria had like 15?20k viewers and when the stream ended it had like 500k views.

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>>1542875
Yeah, I look and ignore it. It's like enjoying concerts in small vs large venues.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1543283
good point, gura is shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>1542561
apparently they don't like his wife, his number seem to drop in few last days

[Anonymous No.]

>>1543250
Pewdiepie was one of the ones who popularised Ai in the first place

[Anonymous No.]

>>1543214
Us Numberfags only care about the numbers and the false sense of superiority whenever your oshi gets mogged

SO SEETHE FOR ME

SEETHE HARDER

IT GIVES ME PLEASURE SEEING YOU SEETHE

[Anonymous No.]

>>1543373
Sorry, I guess you'll have to look for the chumflakes if you want to see people seethe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1543283
his old stuff were great, yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>1543359
That's just not true. Where the fuck are you getting your numbers

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>>1543364

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>>1543427
live viewer counting site, i forgot what is it. even hiro's stream managed to beat him

[Anonymous No.]

>>1543373
N-no. NOO!
Gura is the biggest number in the pond!
She's the apex number!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>1543465
which one show me

[Anonymous No.]

>>1542248
And there are fans who join the higher membership tier. It all averages out anyway to a rough estimate which could be compared to others measured in a similar manner. Since these numbers are just fuel for my oshi is better than yours, accuracy isn't necessary unless the comparison is close.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1543283
He's a better singer than any tuber you worship

[Anonymous No.]

>>1543431
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-HsT9ZEaY4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBM2n-pE4Fo

[Anonymous No.]

>>1543465
instead of pulling numbers from your ass can you provide a source?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1542311
Unless another youtube accepted currency cratered while I wasn't looking, yeah.

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>>1543715
So she covered a song, he reacted to it, and she sent a friendly thank you message. How does that mean he popularized her?

She already had a sizeable following back then, and was basically *the* face of virtual youtubers.

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>>1542050
Would you happen to know any other chuuba who did a membership poll?

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>>1541661
What are her members only streams like?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1542496
Marine's numbers fluctuate alot but on average gura's is still higher. Marine experiences higher peaks but her average is still 20k

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>>1543165
There was a guy who did an experiment with a bunch of friends watching a test livestream, and the numbers fluctuated wildly from one to three live viewers. It might have been back in /jp/ because I can't find it right now.

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>>1543165
I wouldn't assume youtube is bug-free without evidence either pal

[Anonymous No.]

Why does everyone assume the live view count update was a "bug" and not an intended feature?

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>>1544130
Because that would mean youtube is actively malicious and not just incompetent

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>>1544130
intended to do what? fuckover their streamers?

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>>1541708
>Live watchers
Are you saying 20K to 30K per stream is pathetic? Holy fucking kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1543880
Viewing that most recent one she seems a lot more open and casual. She wouldn't have sung half of those song or talked about much of that stuff to a normal audience.

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>>1541661
Chumbuds are numberfags, huh?

[Anonymous No.]

I have some fresh NUMBERS to break off the Gura circlejerk, made an Excel spreadsheet to work out when the next Holos to hit a million will be with their current growth

4/11 - Noel
4/12 - Okayu
4/22 - Miko
5/22 - Matsuri
6/4 - Ina
6/5 - Kiara
7/11 - Watame
7/27 - Subaru
8/23 - Ayame
8/24 - Kanata
9/4 - Suisei
10/17 - Moona
11/13 - Botan
11/25 - Ollie
12/13 - Sora
12/16 - Shion
Anyone else not yet at a million will hit it in 2022 according to the chart except Anya who won't until 2023

[Anonymous No.]

>>1542875
If I don't see 30k people watching the same stream, I just shut down my computer, I set myself on fire and shoot myself with 00 buck in the head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1541661
ganbare gura!

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>>1544406
>6/4 - Ina
>6/5 - Kiara
Based

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>>1544226
As far as I understand, the update was to provide an accurate count of live viewers by whatever metric YouTube considers to be a "non-spam" user.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1544406
Poor Anya. Oppai knife loli needs moar love.

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>>1542240
you can just look at likes on community posts/members only videos to set a minimum.

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>>1544495
Their subs are neck and neck and growth is incredibly similar, I wouldn't be surprised if they do it on consecutive days at all

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>>1544758
Do you know how many likes gura's membership singing gets? Most of those are unarchived and probably her most popular vidoes other than those the highest likes she get is only 2.8k

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>>1545064
I'm not saying that it's an accurate measure. it's just an absolute minimum.

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>>1544758
You can get a rough idea from that but we have no idea what percentage of members like each post, it's not really solid enough to use as evidence for "my oshi makes more money than your oshi"

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>>1545064
Do you know how many people vote in member-only poll? Gura has at least 11-12 thousand members.

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>>1545201
It was a question, not an attack, I used likes as a measurement cause the other girls didn't have a members poll. That poll only got 2.2k, so its clear from her members streams that there is certainly more than 11k. Was just curious as I didn't catch any of her membership singing streams as those are garner the most likes.

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>>1543110
>>1543302
this, if you sort by most popular japanese youtubers gura comes up. therefore it's quite possible that if this viewer flagging is real she'd be heavily affected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1544406
God damn Noel's really inclining

[Anonymous No.]

>>1545201
you don't have to be so confrontational anonchama

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>>1544963
Kiara will probably do an endurance stream to 1M and hit it first

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>>1542050
I didn't vote on that poll so add at least $5 more to the total.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1542137
>Oh, you sweet naive child.
reddit

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>>1545491
This place is going to burn to the fucking ground if Kiara's at 995k and Ina at 997k and she announces that

[Anonymous No.]

>>1544406
I predict Hololive will have another boom when EN2 comes out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1541661
>is it possible for gura to be the first to hit 3m?
At current rates, not anymore. If you were to ask that question 2 months ago, yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>1542050
>she's generating at least $55,000 a month
Did you factor % that both Cover and Youtube get?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1545645
shut the fuck up faggot, that's how much she's generating. If you're gonna do that might as well add taxes right retard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1544406
Interesting note I forgot to add to this, while Gura is due to hit 3 million in August none of the ones already at a million are due for 2 million this year. Growth really seems to hit a wall after 1 mil subs

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>>1545321
>>1545437
Apologize for misinterpretating the post. I mistook that the discussion went around in circle.

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>>1545418
They literally tell you how they calculate that. It's views + (likes*10). Most vtubers are getting carried hard by their likes in that ranking. If you want views, then sort by views, not popular. On that plus monthly rather than cherry picking a single day, she sits at 10,324,189 views compared to Pekora at 12,249,154 and Marine at 13,336,957.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1541661
I still don't understand how AI's handlers managed to fuck everything up so much.
Let's get her to 3m first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1545726
Korone just needs to get one thing to go viral and she can get 2 mil this year.

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>>1545788
>On that plus monthly rather than cherry picking a single day, she sits at 10,324,189 views compared to Pekora at 12,249,154 and Marine at 13,336,957.

Gura streams a lot less than they do though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1545788
Marine shits out short videos

[Anonymous No.]

>>1542875
>lol chat tho
I keep chat off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1545865
>I keep chat off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1545726
It actually accelerates in most cases, but none of them other than gura was getting a million subs a year so that doesn't actually mean much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1545726
There's only so many available watchers for VTubers, and we've probably hit the peak already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1545567
and that 100% probably, anochama

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>>1543211
damn she only made 50k literally dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>1546019
the nigger didn't think coco made more, just showed a pic

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>>1541708
She gets way more video views, the JP audience is all in one timezone, so it's not surprising.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1545931
How small do you think the world is exactly?

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>>1543165
>especially with flimsy evidence
/hlgg/ have been documenting this shit since like mid-november
You can easily ask someone from there post one of those images that compare peak live viewers to total VoD viewers as soon as stream is finished see the discrepancy first hand

[Anonymous No.]

>>1545567
God I really hope she does, the asshurt it would generate would be enough to power a city
I fully expect the meido step in and do something like make a containment sticky

[Anonymous No.]

>>1546093
It's not small. It's big, and it's filled with all kinds of entertainment that isn't VTubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1546286
Yeah and if the vtuber market caps out at three million I'll eat my fucking balls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1543042
鳩羽つぐ (Hatoba Tsugu)
surprised I remembered that off the top of my head

[Anonymous No.]

>>1546315
You're already watching VTubers. You don't have a claim to your balls, anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1546372
what happened to her anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

aight lads it's time for todays NUMBERS
>flare
what's her appeal? i'm kinda surprised reached that high

[Anonymous No.]

>>1542050
Jesus no wonder she is so nervous all the time. That is an insane amount of pressure. Seriously even if you told her this time last year she would laugh in your face.
And have a panic attack at home

[Anonymous No.]

>>1546286
I'm sure vtubers can still draw in a lot more gaming/anime normies, considering how many there are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1546106
Why would people assume that it's due to a bug rather than viewers simply not staying for that long? Views as soon as the stream is finished might also be inaccurate, do they have a chart for comparing vs vods views day of? Also was it a sudden drop or gradual drop of peak live viewers? Like I said, lack of evidence doesn't mean that it's not true. If you post the image I can reevaluate.

Also, Hololive isn't the only streamer with a large international audience. If this was true wouldn't basically every streamer that has any portion of their audience not in their based country be losing live viewers? Also even if Hololive EN is based in JP, what are their EN/JP viewer ratios? Clearly not every EN user is somehow being discounted, why would the bug only cut down on some EN viewers?

Or like >>1544130 said, why do people assume that it's not possible Youtube added it as an intended feature as many viewers were spam opening multiple streams? It seems like there's so many hoops people are jumping through to assume Youtube inadvertently has a bug that affects only Hololive live viewer counts.

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>>1546516
Read the stream title.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1546664
Months ago I recall several anons mentioning that the bug also impacted the normie streamers on Youtube as well.

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>>1546516
She's doing an endurance singing stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1546702
If we assume that the post-update numbers are closer to the "true" numbers, then that means YouTube's counter has been broken for years, which isn't that farfetched.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1546751
It's likely intentional. They don't have to pay as much if the numbers are falsified.

[Anonymous No.]

What would cover do if gura quit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1546800
Nothing different.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1546800
Exactly the same thing they're doing now.
What? You thought they had some sort of plan to take advantage of Gura's spiking popularity? lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>1546516
Read the title dum dum

[Anonymous No.]

>>1546516
Flare is a great streamer that got grouped with monsters like Pekora, Marine, Rushia, and Noel’s tits. Minecraft and the much needed redesign has been pushing her upwards faster. Also endurance stream

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>>1546800
They're more than likely incentivizing her at the moment (ENMa's -rrat theorized- tyrannical grip on her collab embargo is disappearing) and she seems to have money to buy whatever she wants, as she bought a banjo on the whim, and just ordered a "banjolaylee" the other day.
That being said, Korone, Marine, Coco, and Gura are big players, but they aren't ironclad "At all costs" MVPs that Yagoo will have to compromise to keep them

They have arguably the easiest job in 2021 and apart from Cover-Haatochama, Cover seems to be more than willing to help those particular girls out

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>>1545788
dude thanks for just not reading my post or the posts I was replying to. we're talking about how she's listed as a japanese based youtuber yet her primary audience is english. there's been talk of youtube flagging views from outside the youtuber's region more often, which would disproportionately affect EN as they're audience speaks english but because cover is based in japan and the intern who made the youtube account in the first place was in japan they're categorized as a japanese youtuber internally.

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>>1546664
>Why would people assume that it's due to a bug rather than viewers simply not staying for that long?
Besides the fact youtube literally acknowledged it as a bug on twitter around november?
Just the sudden drastic drop were no other factors besides live viewers changed
It was fairly obvious there some fuckery afoot when likes remained the same, VoD viewership went up, membership went up, and subscriber counts kept climbing, yet live viewer was the only metric that got worse

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>>1545739
np

[Anonymous No.]

Hopefully Ai-chan reaches it first. Gura can even surpass her after it and I don't care but at least give this 3 million to her, she deserves it the most.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1546929
this

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>>1546929
Thought she was like, fractured? into multiple Ai's though. Shouldn't she collectively already be well past 3M?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547010
no, those are different people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547010
with that logic then gura would have also surpassed 3M already.

[Anonymous No.]

Something I’ve recently noticed is that the people with a lot of foreign viewership tend to get a lot more likes on average on their streams than the ones with majority JP viewership do even compared to those with higher sub counts
I wonder if EOPs have more of a tendency to like videos than Japs do or something

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>>1541661
IF any of Gura's songs come out before the 3M she'll likely get it first. I don't know if that's happening that soon tho. They're apparently in the early stages of production.
Also, if gura starts putting out short content like she said she wanted to she'll probably get another boost too.
It's hard to speculate when they're still quite a bit away.

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>>1547035
Which is what killed people's interest in her. They fucked up big time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1545491
definitely

>>1545567
>This place is going to burn to the fucking ground
why? it would prove the antis right about kiara, doesnt it? as >>1545945 says

[Anonymous No.]

>>1546907
And I'm telling you that "most popular" in Japan is irrelevant because they're just basing it off of views and likes. They're not using any metric specific to Japan, it just shows channels based in Japan according to that metric. If all you wanted to show was that EN was a JP channel, you could've done that any number of simpler ways to say something everyone already knew instead of trying to imply most popular in Japan meant anything.

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>>1546915
Do you have the tweet or any images for the sudden drastic drop in live viewers? Did they specifically recognize it as a bug, or did they just recognize that there was a drop in live viewers? The last paragraph still applies too, is it not possible that it's intentionally removing viewers counted as spam?

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>>1547052
oh they most definitely do, just look at the average likes on regular japanese youtubers. they're abysmal. for example:
https://youtu.be/ve3kyaMoIQk
>740k views
>7.8k likes
https://youtu.be/0haXX-d2KA8
>117k views
>928 likes
vs hololive:
https://youtu.be/xhIpartjm6c
>250k views
>20k likes
https://youtu.be/qA7u8yy7Ky8
>50k views
>6.2k likes
Mio is nearly tied in likes with a stream that's almost 15 times bigger.

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>>1547200
Not sure what antis would be right about Kiara.
Regardless of who reach 1 m first, antis will spam Kiara and Ina's threads making fun of their fanbases. They just want dramas. Actual fans will likely celebrate in their own threads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1546929
Don’t worry.
Gura speed is slowed down now and she is not trying to be number 1 whatsoever. I don’t think she can pass Kizuna who is almost 3M already.

[Anonymous No.]

>First adblock doesnt count as views and now channel based in Japan EOPs view doesn't count
wtf is this cope.

[Anonymous No.]

Current Kiara numbers rrat is that antis are currently subbing en masse, waiting for her to get just under 1 million during the endurance stream and then usub all at once, pisstrooper style.
Is there any actual proofs this is taking place? It's really fucked up but I can't help but find the plan kekworthy

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547234
you just don't get it do you. I don't care about the most popular part of the metric. playboard's country sorting isn't sorting based off of views from specific countries because that's not public data you dumbfuck. channel tags are and just in case you're too retarded to check. Gura's channel is country tagged to japan. which is why when you sort by japanese youtubers you don't get a bunch of english youtubers that are popular in japan, you get japanese youtubers that are popular. there is no way to measure which country a youtuber's viewers are from without having access to their account.

[Anonymous No.]

meet the highest earning vtuber on bilibili this month so far: jia ran or 嘉然
please stand and clap for
*clap clap clap*

she's got 2382 members valued at 536,346 yen or 82,408 usd
she's earned 448,878 yen or 68,969 usd equivalent in donations/gifts on bilibili this month so far

as of march 15th the total for her is 151,377 usd.

livestream (rebroading random clips atm)
https://live.bilibili.com/22637261

here's some popular videos of her
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Sy4y1n7c4
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1py4y1Y7p7
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1qT4y1P7i5

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547318
People trying to explain the incredibly incoherent numbers everyone's getting.
2.95 times like/viewer ratio is incredibly stupid when it does not happen in any other instance, and if you don't think so then explain it.
Indie vtubers doubling their viewers on their first twitch stream after being on youtube when they have the same people talking in chat is incredibly suspicious too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547388
>she's earned 448,878 yen or 68,969 usd equivalent in donations/gifts on bilibili this month so far
so ~8th or 9th in the world if you compare with youtube?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547268
So the “like to view ratio” thing that’s used to argue someone has less of a dedicated fanbase or whatever is pointless when it comes to vtubers who pull in mostly Jap viewership since the cultures seem to be different

[Anonymous No.]

>>1541708
man what went so wrong in your life?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547388
is a-soul replacing holo hype in chinkland now? give me numbers for bella
https://youtu.be/Tri_bzTxqFQ?t=73

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547281
>Not sure what antis would be right about Kiara.
that she's a vapid attention whore?
yeah running an endurance stream (which antis have always said kiara would be first due to doing some event whenever she's behind Ina) would prove the antis right.

(You) think you're fooling people here, but you're not and you cant. everyone other than KFP are on the same wavelength about kiara's personality & her doing an "event" to beat Ina to 1 million is all but guaranteed because she does similar events like "redebuts", "singing for next 1000" etc.

the antis have been proven right through every kiara's action and it will prove them right now if she does an "event". that will be discussed, yes. dont be mad because antis are right, fren. stick to your general, you're not mature enough to come out of it and discuss kiara if you cant take criticism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547439
Are they a company? That 3d mogs cover

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547421
where's the youtube count for march? i only saw the last month one. last month this sheep earned 162k usd in donations ignoring memberships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547432
it's not really clear if it's because they're "idols" or because they have a lot of english viewers, there's a comparison to be made between nijisanji, 774, and hololive but that's most definitely going to require mapping things to a spreadsheet inorder to even begin to parse the data, let alone form any conclusions.

[Anonymous No.]

.>>1547258

There is an image floating around that shows the immediate viewer drop across all vtuber streams at the same point in December, I think it was December 12th.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547422
its 2021 now not 2020 people are back to work or someshit views dropped are expected. These are the top youtube streamers and they usually get more views before.
minecraft streamer techno and dream usually avg 350k-500k live views, among us OTV get uber views too last year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547497
.......anon it's still march

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547268
>>1547432
Hololive encourages a gachi mindset so their fans are more likely to like, comment tweet or otherwise do stuff that's perceived to support their talents. If you want a better comparison, use pikamee and uto's videos who have a proportionally large foreign fanbase but don't have proportionally increased likes and engagement metrics

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547474
Most Holo members do endurance streams, anon. Flare is doing it for 550,000 subs. Why do you have this us against them mentality?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547497
What's this a picture for ants?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547517
viewer drops are expected, no one's arguing that, and you'd expect everything else to drop too, but it hasn't.
Likes are still the same
VOD views are also still the same
only live viewers are down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547483
think so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0NVLOObySU

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547258
https://twitter.com/yoshimi71566616/status/1334841543782408192
https://twitter.com/Nuancer2/status/1336176412546523137
Here some of the tweets of youtube acknowledging the bug

To answer your question I would sincerely hope it's a bug because if it's not that means of 1 or 2 things
Either youtube is so incompetent that they added a feature that actively causes all viewership across all sitewide livestreams to appear lower than what it actually is
Or they released an featured that makes viewership appear low and it disproportionately targets vtubers in an attempt suppress how popular the genre truly is
Either explanation cements how terrible youtube is a platform how not just vtubers but creators in general need to make an exodus to a better site

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547562
>Flare is doing it for 550,000 subs
exactly. do you know for what milestones kiara does endurance streams?
go on i'll wait

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547554
pikamee's last two streams:
https://youtu.be/bwkcrK1wahU
>53k views
>8k likes
https://youtu.be/Dix8iCDXumg
>34k views
>3.4k likes
she's still shitting on both Jun and Yuuna from my first example.
uto's last two streams:
https://youtu.be/Hf-qvkreCzQ
>78k views
>11k likes
https://youtu.be/BlAwbkw_gsA
>70k views
>10k likes
same here, Uto shits on japanese non-vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547517
>its 2021 now not 2020 people are back to work or someshit views dropped are expected
Some parroting this newfag meme,
Anyone who watched hololive could see viewership was still high, climbing, AND consistent prior to covid

[Anonymous No.]

>>1542050
>>1542248
She gets >10% interaction on her polls, 20k members is the conservative hlgg estimate because any higher than that sounds too crazy.
This is of course without taking into account those in the $10 shark-side membership tier, also very few people go to the trouble of using ARS most people are too dumb and lazy.

>>1541708
Nutsagi you're trying to start shit here, where's my $100?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547567
>VOD views are also still the same
I see a decline except for Mori for some reason is inclining. This chart is monthly views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547525
anon, that list says monthly for 02 or febuary. when you look at the weekly and do march 1-14 it shows something different?
>>1547439
bella is at 17k usd between memberships and donations this month so far.
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV15b4y197f5
it's not a competition with hololive. anti schizo can let that shit live rent free forever but others have to move on and just enjoy vtubing.
>>1547483
they're a regular music agency who decided to make vtubers a couple months ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1541708
Looks like you're not autistic enough to look deeper into this either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547388
Was this the vtuber that coco’s antis latched onto while screaming this is the money you lost Cover?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547617
Do you know what sub milestones Hololive members do endurance streams for?
Why do you seem so upset?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547752
>that list says monthly for 02 or febuary. when you look at the weekly and do march 1-14 it shows something different?
.....yeah because march isn't over yet. march 1-14 are in the past...... so they can count them. the whole month hasn't happened, so you can't view the total earnings for the whole month in reference to other months because that amount of time literally hasn't passed yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547767
rent free, but to answer you no. they didn't even exist while you were busy making this kinda cope. the girl you're coping about is somebody else
>>1547566
here's a higher quality version of the sheep

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547617
does it matter? korone does dumb endurance streams for no reason all the time. it's a fun gimmick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547712
>19m
Gura streamed way more in October + still FOTM up and coming vtuber, hit 1M
>14m = 14m = 14m
incredibly consistent
>12m
Gura streamed less in Feb compared to previous months. It should bounce back in March if I'm right.
Mori has the music buff, her songs accumulate views way quicker than vods do. Her March views are going to be insane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547813
not that anon, but are you baiting or something? how can sentences like that come out of your head without you hemorrhaging?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547795
i'm just talking about stuff in march 1-15th so far. it's the sheep who made 162k usd last if you want to compare to youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547388
>>1547439
>>1547497
Chink get your Bilibili shit out of here. Imagine trusting their numbers at face value.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547752
>regular music agency
I googled and they are like the SM entertainment of China. maybe Sony music entertainment in Japan if you compare

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547838
>all people who like vtubers are doing to to spite coco
this is called schizophrenia

>>1547842
fuck off you retard schizo. holy shit how fucking maniac do you gotta be to think vtubing growing and having new people is a conspiracy about your schizo holo shit. even shounen jump is making a vtuber you schizo. naturally chinese aren't going to stop either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547817
>does it matter?
I'll take that as a concession and no korone doesnt do it for no reason and she certainly doesnt numberfag everyday and cry about views/subs/YT.

>>1547789
i've noticed both of you didnt answer the question. so it seems even you know and are insecure about kiara running endurance streams whenever she's behind Ina.

next time, dont pick battles you cannot win, lads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547388
Shilling chink vtubers on /vt/. It's a bold strategy Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547813
ah you're right. It was Hisaki Erio. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk-dNHNw9NU

What happened to her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547906
You implied that Kiara's endurance streams were problematic, but then you yourself evaded the fact that endurance streams are common. Perhaps you should answer this first, before asking other people to list endurance streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547876
>all people who like vtubers are doing to to spite coco
who are you quoting? I was just commenting on how absolutely inane your use of buzzwords is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1546516
Ouch. She is still doing a singing stream to a mid hundred thousand number.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547994
When your growth is slow enough it makes sense.
It'll take another couple months for the next one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547980
>that endurance streams are common
I never did that. it is common for milestones such as increments of 50k or 100k.
what is not common is endurance streams for 125k, 174k to 180k and so on.

you seem to be struggling here do you realize it? take the hint and go back to your general because its obvious you're not mentally equipped to take criticism in a healthy way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1545491
I wanna see them both do an endurance stream at the same time. Like a friendly competition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547970
making fat bank still. she was the most superchated japanese vtuber last month at 82k usd. she has about 41k worth of monthly members too. so she made 120k plus last month.
>>1547992
if you make a post indicating you need meds i'm gonna treat it like you need meds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1542137
go back faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548030
Take your meds

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548053
>if you make a post indicating you need meds
I didn't though. I even prefaced with "not that anon," I'm sorry you're unable to read.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548030
Could you provide the sources of those endurance streams you mention?

Not sure why do you think I don't take any criticism in a healthy way. I haven't insulted you in any capacity, nor have I boasted about winning. I simply explained my point and asked questions back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548081
there it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548106
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/search/image/pAvu0rSjU5V5q6szt9s-SA/
Yes, it's time for your medicine Mr schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548105
>Could you provide the sources of those endurance streams you mention?

I'm afraid TWO RE-DEBUTS when she Ina beat her in subs is enough for you, kfp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547388
>>1547813
>>1547497
>>1547752
>>1547840
>>1547876
>>1548053
Oh look who it is, this chink once quoted Bilibili share prices to show why Cover leaving China was a bad thing kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548161
You said endurance streams, not re:debut streams. Both streams coincide with other events in her channels though.

And fyi, I am not a KFP. Just wanted to understand your original post. But it's not like you would believe me anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548161
Anon...
Those are gimmick streams made for very specific situations.
The first "re-debut" was a joke because she got her channel deleted for a while, so when she got it back she made that stream.
The second "re-debut" was made to celebrate her finally moving back to Austria.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548185
it's the reddit detective who learned how to take a screenshot of warosu. you mind going back where you belong you schizophrenic retard trash?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548220
>You said endurance streams, not re:debut streams
that goal post shift. just stop, lad

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548185
Oh wait is this the guy who showed up in /jp/ larping as a Swiss banker and shilling bilibili shares like cover actually reads this place?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548223
funny how those "gimmick joke" streams happen whenever Ina beats her in subs. dont you think?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548230
here comes the schizophrenic samefag from the demented redditor making up stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548227
See >>1548030

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548235
I told you exactly why they happened when they happened.
Ina beating her in subs also coincides with the periods when kiara is inactive for some time thanks to said situations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1542780
The latest daily showing is +10,000 (rounded, obviously) for Gura and +666 for Ai, so I doubt it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548267
>I told you exactly why they happened when they happened.
no, what you told me was your excuse for why she did those streams.

based on her crying about YT, her numberfagging and tracking views/subs, asking people to view her vids everyday tells me that it was Ina beating her in subs that forced her to attention whore with "gimmicky" streams.

I dont know what you're even defending here when we can see it with our eyes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548225
>>1548254
Oh look it's the "only reddit hates China" chink, now with a fresh doze of "everyone who hates Chinks is the same person"

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548380
redditor, you're suppose to show a warosu screenshot when there's a gotcha not when i call you a redditor so you're butthurt for months seething. like you're suppose to show a samefag (like you do constantly), or posts deleted, or me doing SOMETHING anything besides a screenshot of me making a post about chinese vtuber and telling you to fuck off schizo.

all you posted was the moment i made you seethe like a the reddit bitch you are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548297
>Your excuse for why she did those streams.
She might be a massive numberfag but those streams have nothing to do with Ina, she had been talking about the German re-debut for a month since she knew she was going to move, and the channel deletion is a thing that actually happened, it was incredibly sudden and weird. Are you saying she faked her channel deletion for a subscriber boost?
https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1336725105083252736?s=19

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547388
>$35 average per member
>donations on track to hit $140k in total in March, of which a large part must be from members
What's going on? I thought the new livestream restrictions were supposed to place a cap on this level of spending?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548456
no that was just schizo rrat's made by people like that redditor seething at me. it's cause i said no that's not the case that redditor is seething so badly about his rrat's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1541661
both are fucking irrelevant. dead. subs. Meanwhile Flare is making bank at 550k subs.
>subs matter

[Anonymous No.]

>horoRaibu
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>1542050
i'd like to introduce you to the fellow named ARS.

[Anonymous No.]

why do you dwell on numbers when the main issue with the shark is they are fucking boring?

if Pekora had 100 viewers she'd still be infinitely better. so...why.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548506
If you want to shit on hololive you should pick a day when 9 of the top twelve spots aren't hololive streams

[Anonymous No.]

The only numbers that matter

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548519
>normies
>using vpn
Pick one.

[Anonymous No.]

my biggest gripe with EN fans is they idolize the worst fucking one and not Ina, the only one with talent. it's like EN fans only care about how terrible you are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548506
What's the top guy's name so I can laugh at his pityful VoD viewership

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548297
Dunno if this is bait but those redebut streams only happen after a YT ban. You are right in a way though, if Kiara wasn't banned then Ina wouldn't have surpassed her sub count in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

subs are literally irrelevant if you have a chat full of poverty-tier favela dwellers. Rushia and Coco have many wealthy gachikoi, the one thing that does matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548562
Damn Rushia and Coco are miles ahead everyone else

[Anonymous No.]

i'd just like to say it has been fun mocking global retards who talked so much shit and now their EN whores have fallen off a cliff. You deserve it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548562
>50. Ange Katarina
Why don't those faggots nips like Ange?

[Anonymous No.]

Why even give a shit about numbers? Enjoy stream or don't. Who cares about the rest?

[Anonymous No.]

shark fags are STILL mad, lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548607
Finding statistics interesting is nice
Only faggots use numbers to shit on people.
As you can see, the thread is full of faggots

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548562
>48. Kusonoki Sio
Sio...

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547712
Amelia Watson's stream output was less than 50% of her usual pace.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548569
Kuzuha regularly gets more viewers than the shark bitch, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548640
>Finding statistics interesting is nice

Fair point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548552
>>1548506
lol. It's basically APEX vs hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548652
He streams apex for 12 hours every day
I'd be disappointed if his vods got shit views

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548607
>Why even give a shit about numbers?
Why even enter the numberfag thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548694
To ask the question.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548652
Strange cope, but not really
Looking at their channels they get around the same amount, the only functional difference is Gura seems to get hers way faster, while it takes him longer (most of his streams are <3 hours long)
He also to seems to milk his main content, APEX for as much as it's worth, the dude plays a metric fuckton of apex

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548751
That’s because there have been a bunch of tournaments lately and he always gets invited to them, he wasn’t planning on joining this one but then he got invited by his other two teammates

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548607
because it's fun to actually think like their managers and try to consider the monetary side sometimes. it's not like management at cover actually thinks about anything so it's interesting to actually put thought into the topic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548751
Tokyo ghoul's apex streams are more like a zatsudan than anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547258
There is already an autistic nip addressing this issue. He's being quite insistent about it. He also posted the pic when the "bug" supposedly started (12/03/20)just when Polka and Lamy's views abruptly dropped. There are also those pics comparing VOD views by the end of the stream
https://twitter.com/dousetsu_bug

It also seems Youtube commented on this thing a few days back on their account. They claim they are still working on it
https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1369930929200844800
That photo on that guy's tweet is about this other tweet where Youtube acknowledged the issue back in December
https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1337662177499607041

Draw your own conclusions

[Anonymous No.]

I'm interested in this
>Superchat thak you
>500K

how ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548775
Even without those tournaments he still plays a metric fuck ton of apex. 2/3rds of his content is just apex streams and he gets significantly lower views whenever he plays anything that isn't apex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548928
She made $4k that stream too.
Her latest streams have been surprisingly profitable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548977
Because he’s constantly practicing for tournaments

[Anonymous No.]

Which girl has the biggest number of dicks in her dm?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1549088
As far actually documented moments go?
Towa, some dude publicly posted his cum tribute under one of her post once

[Anonymous No.]

>>1549054
Also on the surface it might seem like all he plays is Apex because he’s often too lazy to change the title, but he usually gets bored with that and ends up playing another game or two that he always plays at some point in the middle of the stream
Rather than milking I’d say lack of motivation to start another game he’s not used to playing is what factors into Apex and like two other games taking up all his content, but he does realize a good chunk of his audience watches him for Apex and he does take that into consideration

[Anonymous No.]

>>1549088
There's that one vtuber that actually encourages people to send her dick pics

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548596
Too vulgar

[Anonymous No.]

>>1541661
Gura is mostly dead meme subs/boosters though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1541708
High five, fellow KFP chad

[Anonymous No.]

>>1542616
Jesus, Kiarafags are legitimately mentally unstable

[Anonymous No.]

>>1549125
Yeah, he has 50/50 chance of being interesting or being annoying in his stream. It's not helping his chat is becoming more atrocious nowadays and it's leaking to Kanae even though it's still mostly japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1549088
Probably one of the vshojos, unironically.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1549125
>>1549387
I wish Joe had even half the following and recognition Tokyo Ghoul has, the guy is extremely talented and deserves it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547311
>yeah i don't think gura can surpass korone and fubuki, let alone be the first who reach 1m
once she does something really exciting again soon, be ready for another timeloop. hell, she even just need to stop singing meme songs on karaoke streams and go full diva instead. that will surely skyrocket her numbers once more. but it konda makes me wonder what mane-san is thinking, because they seem to keep pushing boring stuff lately. or is gura herself just too lazy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1549497
He does fine

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548652
how is he still on safe position eventhough he had been gone through at least 2 yikes recently? is it because no one clipped those issues in english?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1549497
I have to admire Joe's lungs. But its Apexsanji for the numbers and maybe Arksanji next once it gets enough steam

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548928
The thumbnail and title are unintentional clickbait since they don't say shit about what the video is about

[Anonymous No.]

Gura cute!

[Anonymous No.]

>>1541661
>Is it possible for gura to be the first to hit 3m?
Yes
>is it realistically possible?
No

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548489
More total views, likes and 1/4 the SC on a regular gaming stream. Don't shitpost with Roberu faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1545064
>likes
In my decade being on youtube I have liked less than 100 videos because I usually can't be bothered to. I treat my liked videos as a play list by itself so I only like videos that I wan tin there.
Also many people forget/don't bother liking, it's not an accurate metric, just how many people watch channels without ever subscribing

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548596
What do you mean? She has a very decent sub count, and she's appearing on merch and in events.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548595
>>1548633
>EN whores have fallen off a cliff
Pekora used to pull 60k on her minecraft streams a couple months ago. What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.]

It's kinda crazy Gura will surpass God eventually. She doesn't feel as popular as Kizuna Ai was at her peak.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1549131
Let me guess?
Marine?
Haachama?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1541661
Only if Kizuna (or more likely, her company) fucks up. Current paces point to her getting it first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1552566
Not a holo obviously, it's someone who has a thread up on this board right now though

[Anonymous No.]

>>1552486
Ai at her peak mogged everybody else and was basically the only chuuba to be a western meme. Gura faces massive competition with her fellow holos

[Anonymous No.]

>>1552696
Gib link
Right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>1552923
Ctrl + f 'sandbag'

[Anonymous No.]

>>1552991
Bless you anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>1552461
YouTube did some programming magic to reduce viewer numbers due to suspicions of botting. Hadn't they done that, Pekora would probably still get around 50k

[Anonymous No.]

>>1549298
so is ai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1552486
different market, different times, and frankly Kizuna Ai is Japanese while Gura is not. Tbat will makes all the difference.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548562
What is that lifetime gross? It's crazy how fast Mori has passed relatively popular people that have been streaming 2-3 years in 6 months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547376
> They're not using any metric specific to Japan, it just shows channels based in Japan according to that metric.
> If all you wanted to show was that EN was a JP channel, you could've done that any number of simpler ways to say something everyone already knew instead of trying to imply most popular in Japan meant anything.
Try reading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1547607
The former tweet is about a different bug that started occurring at the same time where your own analytics would show the count as 0. They apparently fixed that already.
The second seems like they acknowledge the drop but don't say that it's a bug?
I mean, it could also mean a third thing. That vtubers have had large amounts of spam viewers until now and they've simply been removed.

>>1548922
Ah, there's certainly something that changed if pretty much everyone's live views dropped off a cliff at the same time, especially when they're ongoing. His earlier tweets were sort of iffy, but it doesn't matter. It seems his main focus is simply pointing to viewers that are waiting in standby, and then noticing a huge dropoff when the stream actually starts?

The latter tweet is them saying that there's been a huge amount of reports telling them that viewer counts have been lowered especially for vtubers, so they put some people to work on it. If the source is just vtuber viewers reporting, it doesn't seem like any acknowledgement of a bug.
https://twitter.com/Nuancer2/status/1336176412546523137
This from the other guy almost seems to confirm that they're doing it intentionally? Not that I would trust some random pr guy, but it seems whoever is writing the EN tweets certainly doesn't know of any bug.

The only thing that's any new info was
https://twitter.com/EBIoS13/status/1351799798622420993
Where he did tried to view his own stream with another account, presumably from the same computer, and it doesn't count as a live viewer, but it counts as a view. I was under the impression that they already covered this as spam prior to Dec.3 but, hey.

Also, is there any actual theory as to why it seems to be affecting Vtubers more? One that isn't "lol they're just not counting US views for channels based in Japan". Has anyone done any numbers on other streamers that "encourage" high live viewer numbers and whether they had a sharp drop too? Or another way is, on Dec. 3, what channels were the ones that didn't experience a drop in live viewer numbers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1553114
AI is love. AI is life.

[Anonymous No.]

I don’t know why people never consider ad revenue from views. Even a very conservative 2$/100K would result in massive extra revenue for even mid tier holos. Considering the demographics of vtuber watchers, their proven tendency to throw money at their favorites, long videos high engagement, etc their RPM is probably much higher than that.

[Anonymous No.]

I don’t know why people never consider ad revenue from views. Even a very conservative 2$/1000 would result in massive extra revenue for even mid tier holos. Considering the demographics of vtuber watchers, their proven tendency to throw money at their favorites, long videos high engagement, etc their RPM is probably much higher than that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1555695
The existence of ad/content blockers throws a wrench into trying to calculating estimated ad revenue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1545645
Membership money goes straight to the girls. SC is the one where they only get 30%.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1555757
Source?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1541661
>>1542050
Gura is such a massive success I'm expecting entire gen2 to be lolis at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1555757
Youtube also takes a 30% cut from channel memberships. There's no reason to believe Cover doesn't take their cut of membership money either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1548562
SC are actually one of the worst revenue sources for the girls. They get way higher cut from merch and memberships.

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like a suitably subtle SC to Kiara or Mori might get them to give some details about the relative values of SC, members, ads, sponsorship, merch etc. Not sure if any other Holos would be willing to let such information go

[Anonymous No.]

>>1555770
His ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>1555923
You mean other than girls saying they don't?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1555950
Source?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1556094
Source?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1556094
Source?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1556145
>>1556150
>>1556161
His ass obviously

[Anonymous No.]

>>1556187
Source?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1544655
she needs to step her shit up

[Anonymous No.]

Stop spamming "Source?"; it's well known how Youtube revenue is split in hololive. YouTube takes 30% of superchats and membership as stated in their help page documents. Coco mentioned in a stream last year that the remainder is split between Cover and talent (she said 50% but it's more likely that it's contract dependent for each talent).

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>>1556728
>50% to Yagoo for doing jackshit
Damn, what an absolute thief.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1556728
If you look at where the spam is targeted maybe you would understand. I clearly meant them not taking from any cut membership that this faggot is somehow pulling from his ass. That shit about cover and youtube taking a cut is well known.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1542248
Argie Retard Shekels?

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>>1556799
90% of their views come from Holo brand. Look at Watson or Mori before they joined.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1541708
you should see kiara's. In average she has 3k viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

OH NO NO NO NO HOLOBROS THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING

[Anonymous No.]

>>1557736
It's over holobros...

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>>1557736
Nice job cropping off Pekora retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>1557736
It's 3 AM in Japan scrote

[Anonymous No.]

>>1557426
Sure, but getting a 50% cut is way too much. It should be a 30% at most, which is what YT gets.

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>>1558374
they be getting fuck all if not for yagoo you idiot

[Anonymous No.]

>>1560450
It's the other way around. Yagoo would be getting fuck all if it weren't for them, you idiot.

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>>1558374
sounds like 30-35-35/

[Anonymous No.]

>>1561177
It should be 30/30/40 at least.