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15415243 No.15415243 [Reply] [Original]

>Luxiem proven there's market for male vtuber in the west
>Suddenly new Holoen audition with clear interest in male applicants
It's so tiresome..

>> No.15415293

I'm glad Nijisanji opened Yagoo's eyes to the prospect of HolostarsEN!

>> No.15415348
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Good! We need holostars en to kill hololive en unicorns.

>> No.15415394

It doesn't really matter but if you're concerned about Luxiem's viewers being taken away just remember these auditions are gonna take like 8 months to process or more, I mean the next ID gen is still on the way

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>According to keikaku

>> No.15415454

Is this the final yab for Hololive in the west? Their fans will soon have to endure their oshis being fucked on stream

>> No.15415508

>>15415348
Hololive JP is successful precisely because of gachi unicorns
why do you think that doesn't work for EN?

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>Is this the final yab for Hololive in the west? Their fans will soon have to endure their oshis being fucked on stream

>> No.15415559

They're literally just taking every good idea Nijisanji has ever had

>> No.15415601

>>15415559
>males
>good idea
Manjishartji sis...

>> No.15415999

>>15415243
Don't worry. There's a really high chance they'll be dead on arrival.

>> No.15416027

>>15415454
None of the HoloEN girls will go Niji on the guys. The only girls that would actually have fun with them would be Sana and Bae because they can banter. Kiara could handle them but she's pretty loyal to her fanbase and would therefore tread carefully. All the others would be nervous and autistic as shit around them.

>> No.15416058

>>15415601
YWNBAM

>> No.15416223

>>15416027
From what I have seen the interactions between the males and females have been nothing fun and good natured so far. Ignoring people that try so hard to be cucked they search for it in every word or action there has really been nothing to make anyone balk unless they have a problem with the basic concept of their male/female interaction.

>> No.15416265

What you idiots do not get is that Nijisanji has already cornered that market, so HolostarEN would be DOA

>> No.15416356

>>15415243
Hololive couldn't have done it first in EN, too many purityfags on one side waiting to kill them if they even say their oshi's name, and sjws on the other side looking for a new target to create a scandal over. At least now they have niji to cover their backs

>> No.15416493

>>15415243
holos male members can never have collabs with their females. male livers can attract fujoshits like the niji en ones are doing now but its not nijis strength. the strong part is that they can collab with anyone regardless of gender/sex.

i like holo jp but holo en is actually clueless and pretty dumb. if anything holo en should be more feminine girly and idol-ish like holo jp and make tee-tee dramas, but it seems they can only have a shitty flimsy marketing plan.

>> No.15416501

They aren't even subtle about it. Literally like 2 weeks later they immediately start auditioning english males. They're just blatantly copying nijisanji.

>> No.15416577

Holostars EN would only ever be able to collaborate with each other.
>JP collabs means again only JP can watch it
>Hololive hates collabing with outsiders that aren't 100x approved by le manager
>can't talk to girls so they have to pick from indie men
Meanwhile Nijisanji's already playing around with JP/KR/ID as well as indies and even non-vtubers.

>> No.15416677

>>15416577
>implying management would let them mingle with indies
If they're not bilingual that they will be forced to stick to their branch.

>> No.15416736

>>15416677
Man...they are completely fucked if that's the case. At least jpstars have the freedom to hang out with multiple jp organizations.

>> No.15416839

I don’t see any audition for males in Hololive.

>> No.15416929

>>15415243
I'm actually excited if it's Holostars EN. As a consumer, I'd love for interactions between Livers and Stars to disillusion fans, collapse Hololive's market share and leave a power vacuum to be filled by new blood.

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>>15416929
Based

>> No.15417069

>>15415348
Do you want death hololive?

>> No.15417104

>>15416929
>I'd love for interactions between Livers and Stars to disillusion fans
pretty based

>> No.15417427

>>15416265
I don't think so, stars still has advantage over niji in branding so unless niji can teach the west about themselves better, starsEN will beat the shit out of manjisanji

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you don't want holoEN m*les because of muh idolshit
I don't want holoEN m*les because I despise m*les
we are NOT the same

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15417574

Kinda fucked that the ENstars won't be allowed to collab with the Nijimales. With the girls, it makes sense because the Nijis would be leeching off of the Holos, but when it comes to the dudes, the tables are completely turned.

>> No.15417672

>>15415559
That's how it was when Hololive was still the rookie on the block anon, that's why they had HoloID and took potential HoloKR accounts.
That said, Nijisanji had the advantage of letting the audience know that the talents have free reign to collab with dudes in or out of the company from debut. Cover really didn't do that outside of Mori IIRC, so Holostars ID/EN, if there even is one, is probably going to be awkward like it is for the JP branch. That and you really have to wonder who would apply for StarsEN over Nijisanji in terms of game permissions.

>> No.15417709

>>15417574
The thing is Nijisanji isnt as pathetic as that. They let their males collab with Holostars still so they would probably let their EN males collab with HoloEN males too.

>> No.15417881

>>15417709
Cover will only allow it if NijiEN males still have bigger numbers than their's

>> No.15418014

>>15417709
Daddy Yagoo will say no

>> No.15418080

>>15417881
>>15417709
Would be the eternal conundrum. That's why Stars EN won't be a thing, because they'd give Niji EN attention in a market they utterly dominate. Unless they REALLY put Stars EN in the basement and even Hololive EN viewers aren't aware of them.

>> No.15418101

>>15416929
>>15415348
You do know that HolostarsEN isn't like NijiEN right?
The Holo girls that don't collab with Stars and other males wont suddenly do it just because there's EN Stars.
It's gonna be Mori and Bae who already collab with Stars. And MAYBE if you're lucky Ame or Kiara will give a shit. The rest will continue to ignore them.

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>Unicorn idol company viewers
>Watching males

Nijisanji normalized dudes in every branch, StarsJP are ignored by Holo JP AND EN, in case you didn't notice, NijiEN didn't ignore NijiJP males, why are HoloEN ignoring StarsJP? You have to be deluded if you think anything will change and HoloEN will welcome StarsEN.
Same goes for their public, Holo unicorns won't watch males of any branch.
Who is going to watch StarsEN?

>> No.15418157

>>15416501
Have they? They just announced a new gen, not a new branch, as far as anyone knows it's just more JP Stars.

>> No.15418207

>>15418116
They don't have to follow the JP formula. They could just make HoloEN mixed gender like Nijisanji. HoloEN isn't very idol centric anyway so they can get away with it.

>> No.15418316

>>15416265
>already cornered the market
>with just 5 guys

I'd take the hyperbole down a few levels and would rather say that NjiEN has "first mover advantage", and depending on how long it takes for Cover to react and present their counter-offer, it only grows, but there's still enough space in the market to move in.

What NijiEN has shown that there's actually enough of an audience/demand for western male chubas that serving them can be a profitable venture. If that was what was holding Cover back all this time (expecting StarsJP numbers and thus not worth the effort), they now have their proof of concept.

>> No.15418429

>>15416265
You're forgetting that there's at least 1 million holo en viewers who have no idea Nijisanji exists.

>> No.15418567

>>15418116
not every Holo watcher is a unicorn, and not every Holo girl caters to them. Some will do male collabs (as they already did, it didn't meaningfully hurt Mori for example), and some won't, but in the end that's up to them personally and their particular interests, and not because there's some kind of official company policy that you HAVE to ignore them.

>> No.15418579

Has Gura ever collabed with a m*le?

>> No.15418634

>>15418207
>HoloEN isn't very idol centric anyway
That's on management thinking that idolshit had no appeal in the West, which they were entirely wrong about. They also wanted the EN girls to not use senpai/kouhai which went completely ignored.

If Cover hires EN males they'll still use the Stars label even if they interact with Hololive.

>> No.15418680

>>15418207
I think the problem with that approach is that HoloLive and HoloStars are sorta treated like two different entities in the same company. It’s not like Nijisanji where it’s one big company and people can collab with whoever is up for it.

>> No.15418699

>>15418567
sora and fubki still normally collab with male vtubers. towa is too. choco had one too iirc. so its not really prohibited.

>> No.15418732

>>15418567
this
it is girls choice look for example akutan or rushia who ignore the existence of males completely (as they understand it would hurt their image) and Suisei or Fubuki who collabs with males no problem as their brand is different

>> No.15418734

If Ame interacts with a m*n i will kill myself

>> No.15418776
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>>15418699
when was the last time Sora collabed with male?

>> No.15418836

>>15418776
She collabs with me every night

>> No.15418845

>>15418734
anon...

>> No.15418867

>>15418845
>inb4
I mean on-stream, retard.

>> No.15418881

>>15418579
yeah, mating press collab with (me)

>> No.15419014

>>15417069
That's exactly what they want.
Smells like Nijinig.

>> No.15419065

>>15418567
The male collabs were professional as fuck and people still sperged out in chat.

>> No.15419124

>>15419014
Holo EN is a tumor on the EN vtuber scene.

>> No.15419244

>>15418116
To add to this, all of the twitter/k-pop girls that make up a huge chunk of the NijiEN male fanbase right now will make a social media stink about how much Hololive and Cover "oppress" and are "sexist" towards StarsJP. If StarsEN happens and they're treat like JP, then the controversy will just grow from there.

>> No.15419356

Burger chads are coming for your JP holos lmao.

>> No.15419384

>>15418116
>Nijisanji normalized dudes in every branch
Still find it funny how AC went against their MO of debuting branches with mix waves for EN and only went with females for 3 whole waves and when the males came they shoved them in a separate wave by themselves.

>> No.15419400

>>15419244
Is that true? A lot of them are unicorns themselves i.e. make a stink at seeing their pure boys interact with w*men

>> No.15419411

>>15417554
When did the Far Cry President shave or is this an edit?

>> No.15419477

>>15419384
>against their MO
>he's unaware of the same gender waves that existed before EN

>> No.15419486

>>15419400
Those femunicorns have only a few hours to get over themselves, because the boys are having a collab with the girls literally tonight.

>> No.15419536

>>15419486
If they lose interest in NijiEN I don't blame them. I liked Pomu and Rosemi but after the shitty gen 3 and the Nijim*les I've almost totally lost interest.

>> No.15419557

>>15419244
lol if you believe cover will take such amerimutt bs seriously, you are just clueless.

holo stars just suck at vtubing. they can have collabs with any indie vtuber and yet they cant get any views? yeah its their own fault because every indie male vtuber is under the same condition as theirs. those amerimutt azns and dumb trannies wouldnt understand it but they are irrelevant to jp companies that know everything about the vtuber industry.

>> No.15419611

>>15419356
>Burger
kek it's all seaniggers and asian canadians anon

>> No.15419785
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Holostars EN would have a hard time because for one Niji EN already had a dip into male EN talent, then if there are any male EN vtubers that are on the cusp or are gaining traction they have no reason to go corpo.

>> No.15420006

>>15415243
Males in Holo are going to suffer a lot.
First of all they have to deal with Omegatranny micromanaging what they can do(fucking Civ5 is NG kek) and they have managers breathing down their neck for every little thing they say on stream. Vox swears a lot in his streams good luck doing that in Homostars EN

>> No.15420055

>"NOOOOOOOO THE FUNNY ANIME GIRLS CANT INTERACT WITH MEN REEEEEEEEEEEEE MUH PURITY REEEEEEE"
Get a clue, hit the gym, and get laid you fucking loser

>> No.15420195

>>15420055
>no you're not allowed to enjoy cute, appealing anime girls, go try your luck on the roastie roulette
Moe slice of life is a dying genre outside of shit like Yuru Camp which is a glorified travel brochure. If they take Hololive from us my only outlet is fucking gachashit.

>> No.15420278

anyone else going to audition?

https://holostars.hololivepro.com/en/audition

>> No.15420632

>>15420055
But then we'd stop watching vtubers. Or is that your goal?

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>https://twitter.com/hololive_en/status/1253558088692461568
>Audition for hololive production (hololive and holostars)!
>still no starEN
its just going to be another wave of holoen girls.

>> No.15421206

>>15419477
And you can't read all that well I see.

>> No.15421285

>>15421168
That doesn't rule out Omega going full California and bringing in a tranny.

>> No.15421560

>>15421285
https://youtu.be/Opvaa2tfZtU

>> No.15421617

>>15421285
You fags have cried about trannies joining any day now since before Myth debuted.

>> No.15421680

>>15421168
Luca applied to Nijisanji auditions as a male. They liked his audition so much they kept it and personally reached out to him when the male specific branch opened up. Cover could be doing the same thing. Just keep it open for everyone to apply and then formally open up male auditions when they've seen enough talented males applying that they can justify it.

>> No.15422529

>>15421617
>a-any day now the west will ruin hololive
>gen 2 for sure
>omega said "who cares" when someone tried to bait him with a pronoun question, nows our chance tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny

How do they not get tired of it

>> No.15422622

>>15421168
literally from gen 1 and gen 2

based on the image used (Myth on one side and the Stars on the other) they're clearly interested in a StarsEN

>> No.15422673

>>15422622
>they're clearly interested in a StarsEN
then why don't they make an official post?

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>>15415243
These all will be Koreans. You can screenshot this

>> No.15422750

>>15422725
actually though can >we talk about this? why the fuck are there so many korean male chuubas?

>> No.15422832

>>15422673
With unicorns, you can't leave that time for the seething to fester, you have to announce, debut and prove they're not going to ruin your waifu's purity as fast as possible

>> No.15422839

Wow. You fags are rent free on Hololive. I've never seen you guys talk about Nijisanji without bringing up Hololive out of nowhere.

>> No.15422871

>>15422725
>tfw all HoloEN girls are either Koreans or whores, aside from just my oshi

>> No.15422979

>>15416027
>he forgot about their reactions to homostar messages during that one animecon

>> No.15423050

>>15422725
gooks cant speak english and amerimutt azns are cucks.

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>>15418116
Even if this post is bait, it s exactly I'm wondering. I really fucking doubt that w*men are watching Luxiem. I think their hidden audience is just men wanting a best friend simulator.

>> No.15423636

>>15423133
Go watch a stream, their chats aren't looking for a best friend, they are downright in heat.

>> No.15423716

>>15422673
This. If they don't make it official they're gonna hurt the numbers - and therefore quality - of their applicants. Assuming that's what they want, which I doubt.
I wonder how many trannies applied for Myth or Council for later being told "wwwwwwww its jork" by Pekora herself.

>> No.15423851

>>15415293
Is Yagoo going to stop being a fag about treating the Holostars like second class citizens while he is at it? Doubtful, since the Nijisanji model already showed a long time ago you can have normal interactions between the sexes and even unicorns will accept it if they have nowhere else to go since Holofags will ultimately accept any shit shoved in their faces. Males will not scare them off as /vt/ seems to think.

>> No.15424243

>>15423636
You've never seen Vox's non-zatsudan chat. None of these w*men watch him gaming

>> No.15424445

>>15423133
Kinda this. Vox said himself that he is numberfag and dropped pandering to fujos significantly. Probably he saw in his analitics that about 60% of his audience is male, so he went full autism route

>> No.15424542

>>15424243
random click 3 hours into a gaming stream idk what to tell you

>> No.15424546

>>15424445
[citation needed]
his asmr stream did just as well as his other streams.

>> No.15424569

>>15423851
>even unicorns will accept it if they have nowhere else to go
Hololive is more popular than Nijisanji for a reason.

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>>15424542

>> No.15424739

>>15415243
List of potential holostars EN collab partners:
>Ollie
>Iofi
>Bae
>Mori
>? ??? Fubuki if they're good at Japanese?

>> No.15424798

>>15416501
Idk if that true, but Nijisanji also started auditioning for EN branch 2 weeks after myth debut

>> No.15424806

>>15424546
That was on Civ6 stream when Mysta showed up to talk

>> No.15424816

>>15423133
>best friend simulator.
Do otaku guys really want to be friends with these faggots? None of them have the energy of a cool dude like Bobon for instance. Their entire design aesthetic and hiring feels like fujo bait tot he core.

>> No.15424838

>>15418776
Santa Roberu

>> No.15425060

>>15424816
>Do otaku guys really want to be friends with these faggots?
yes

>> No.15425297

>>15424816
Their designs are pure fujobait, but some of them really nail the bro experience, with Vox being the endurance streamer gamer, Luca being the funny goofball, and Mysta’s charisma and energy

>> No.15425689

>>15418116
Already coping. Make sure your noose is tight enough when you hang yourself after your oshi is caught flirting with one of the guys on stream

>> No.15425738 [DELETED] 

>>15418579
yeah, with Jay

>> No.15426194

>>15424816
>Do otaku guys really want to be friends with these faggots?
No. This is why especially male chuubas who want to grow should NEVER listen to viewers here. Viewers don't know what they're talking about and don't even know what they want. There are literal hundreds of "friends" and "bro" chuubas all sitting at 0views because viewers don't actually give a fuck about those streamers.

Everyone watches streams to be entertained. No one watches streams for a bro or friend experience.

>> No.15426211

Pretty clear that Hololive wants to ape its inferior and less successful rival for some reason. What options are left for us unicornchads?

>> No.15426364
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chuubas for this feel?

captcha: MMMGA_

>> No.15426614

The only reason for this is because they want a total monopoly on the vtubing world. They cannot allow another company to have any niche they don't feel, because that would give people an excuse to leave the hololive plantation. Hololive needs to be a "one stop shop", nobody can even think about competitors, or even know that competitors exist. So they will debut a male wave, and then advertise that shit everywhere to make you watch it. That way they will stop draining people to Nijisanji

>> No.15427072

>>15426614
>The only reason for this is because they want a total monopoly on the vtubing world.
They don't. If they did, they would have pushed EN males last year. They're still riding Yagoo's dick about being a JP idol larping company.

>> No.15427920

>>15426194
I'm pretty sure they're at 0 views because they don't have a brand backing them, not because of the experience they're giving per se. At the end of the day, advertising is more important than "muh genuine interaction" but if you really want to be a soulless meme spouting retard who can't control their chat like Kronii's, be my guest

>> No.15427983

>>15427920
oh i've seen this episode before. it's the one where a viewer who has no idea what it's like to be a chuuba confidently displays how wrong he is.

>> No.15428104

>>15427983
>it's the one where a viewer who has no idea what it's like to be a chuuba confidently displays how wrong he is.
tell me more, ms Vtuber

>> No.15428531

>>15419536
Lmao get fucked

>> No.15437325

>>15418734
THAT MAN SHALL BE ME

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