Holostars EN

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You think Holostars EN is likely to happen in the future? and if so:
Would it be more popular than any current Holostar member?

They did an audition a year ago where they accepted guys too, I wonder if Cover picked some guys for a future debut then or just didn't care to make a new EN gen with guys.

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If they had the balls to feature a faceless character whose eyes are covered by his fringe and plays Illusion games, I'll give them a try.

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>>14951569
Holostar will all graduate before star EN happen

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>>14951569
Niji en fans are such contrarians they are all pretending to be faggots right now. I don't know if holofags are that flexible. I don't see holostars en having the same purchase.

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it will happen thanks to Vox, he's showing off the power that horny females in the west have. HomoEN will be real and then this board will be on fire, I can't wait

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>>14951719
not even the new nijihomos are 4 fags who are at least funny and the straight one has SEX voice and good taste in games, if cover plays it right and gets guys this good or better the homostarsEN would be set.

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>>14951569
Wait until next year

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>>14951806
Nobody cares about a faggot's opinion.

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>>14951884
You clearly do :) +cope you WILL get HomostarsEN and they WILL collab with your oshi.

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As a Holofag I'm really wanting so see success on the NijiEN males, that way I know Yagoow will be making starsEN

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>>14951934
Even you know that will never happen.

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>>14951934
Homofags have been saying this over a year

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>>14951569
>They did an audition a year ago where they accepted guys too
Because they don't want to get attacked by twitter trannies.

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>>14951779
I truly want a HolostarsEN ever since they did the auditions. If it does happen, I hope at least they get the attention as Hololive does, still makes me sad how much under the rug Holostars has been until recently, the boys deserve more love.

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>>14952059
Based Youtube commenter #6529.

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>>14952059
Found the homobeggar who reeeees about unicorns.

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>>14952174
what?

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>>14952059
You don't watch holostars homobeggar

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See me in HolostarsEN gen 2.

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>>14951569
>You think Holostars EN is likely to happen in the future?
Only if Luxiem is a success

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>>14952268
Anon, i will give you an akasupa everytime you sneeze.

Screencap this.

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>>14951569
i dont care

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>>14952246
Same with most watching NijiEN males as we speak tbf, that's why they want holostarsEN as a gateway to their JP senpais duh

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>>14952373
I'll take you up on that, sneeze fetishist.

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At best I expect HoloID numbers as a start. It depends on their effort.
They would have a chance if they learn from their mistakes in handling starsjp.
1. Go for shounen designs. I'm a fujo trust me on this one. Shounen design is not a debuff for female fans. I personally want a chuuba that looked like Zoro
2. Toxic banters should be allowed (starsjp is too sterile compared to nijijp)
3.ditch the idol image. I like edgier image, rock, metal, hip hop music.
4. Scout music producers as talents, or at least someone like Mori, they could help HoloEn girls for mixing, music production, etc.
5. Fraternity image, boys don't need girls. I like boy x boy collab and teetee better than mixed gender.
6. Make their sexuality ambiguous. If he's gay I can't gosling him. If he's straight I can't ship him with other males. Best would be Bi, but lying about their sexuality is no no for me. Actual gays are not that appealing to me as a yumefujo, since I can't have my cuck fantasies
That's all I can think of now.

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>>14952805
Oh my god, you're the person I've been begging to post in /asp/

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>>14951569
Google "hololive gender irrelevant". First result answers your question

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>>14951569
Miyabi specifically said that the #1 reason Holostars EN would or wouldn't happen is because of quality and interest of applicants, as well as the willingness of existing Cover staff to pick up the project and carry it to fruition. There's interest within the company, so that means the main holdup with a Holostars EN is that there aren't enough males (or at least not enough well-qualified males) applying to catch the interest of the higher-ups.
Roberu and Oga have made more abbreviated comments on it that basically were "it's probably not happening anytime soon, if ever".

But this is a bait thread made by some shitposter that probably doesn't even know what a vtuber actually is, so this common knowledge is probably completely over your head.

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>>14953851
>the main holdup with a Holostars EN is that there aren't enough males (or at least not enough well-qualified males) applying to catch the interest of the higher-ups
I kinda understand their point now, remember it takes a special audition for NijiEN males after inaugural audition failed to give NijiEN that juicy mixed gender wave other Nijibranches normally have

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>>14953851
This wasn't meant to be a bait thread but genuine curiosity. Since the new NijiEN gen just debuted it made me remember about the auditions that happened about a year ago and me wondering how just Council and Hope debuted and nothing have been done yet with the guys that applied.
I just have surface level knowledge about this stuff man, I don't know what every member said ever to know that. I just hope it happens eventually and they are able to pick fun guys to join.

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>>14952805
I'd hope the opinion on co-ed collabs would change in the future

me personally if I was ever accepted into Holostars I'd want to make as many new friends as possible so of course that would involve reaching out to the Live side of things and not just limiting myself to Stars

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>>14952059
>I hope at least they get the attention as Hololive does,
hahahahahaha

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>>14952046
This

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>>14956077
And that's why you would never be accepted in the first place.

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The average Hololive is an unironic purity obsessed idolfag, and won't support males in any way, it's the reason stars were always irrelevant, Nijisanji is used to males, and doesn't treat them like 2nd class citizens.

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>>14951569
No

Hololive fans will not watch the Homos. I should know because I already refuse to watch the JP homos. Male vtubers have no place in Hololive.

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>>14956077
The best way about it is too expect to not even be allowed to speak to them off stream. That wouldn't happen because it's worse than the jp guys, but if you expect that and get more you won't be disappointed. Plus, you can make friends with the niji's and indies, if you filter the indies enough to get ones that aren't political or suffer from Twitch syndrome. You should just try to make your own content interesting instead of allowing yourself to stagnate on collabs though.
>>14952805
I am begrudged to agree with a fujo. These things will appeal to actual male viewers too (albeit for some different reasons)

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>>14952174
Found the contrarion who only watches stars because they're not popular

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>>14951569
>likely to happen
Only if they get good talents applying. So far they clearly have not.
>Would it be more popular than any current Holostar member?
No shit
>They did an audition a year ago
What this guy said>>14952937

That said, I don't know how to feel about a starsEN as someone who watches the jp branch. It will depend on how they manage it. If they allow collabs with the girls right off the bat I'd be mad though. I'd want them to cement themselves as their own thing and hopefully work on a feeling of gen unity rather than try to pander to the girls audience to snag some easy subs. Doing something like that would demonstrate they don't care about the actual job, or content creation and care more about the numbers than anything else, a very poor fit for the stars which give off a very "bros" image. The best way to handle it is to just get a bunch of dumbasses with fun personalities that lend themselves well to getting along with others, and loose them to do whatever.

I do wonder what they'd do with the inevitable minecraft server though. Would they try to give them their own and link with the jp server, let them play in the JP one, or what?

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>>14956893
>If they allow collabs with the girls right off the bat
You mean after the collab ban? Why can't they develop a feeling of gen unity and interact with the 11 other EN members (possibly more depending when they debut if it ever happens) at the same time? It looks like you want them to suffer the same kind of isolationist policy the JP side had when they debuted, and it'll be even worse for a StarsEN because they don't really have a great pool of quality indies/small company chuubas to collab with (hopefully by the time it happens Omecunt or whoever manages EN drops the NijiEN ban).

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>>14956893
The soft collab ban only works for JP because there's an entire industry of vtubers they can freely collab with. Given EN's extreme restriction of inter-company collabs I don't see them getting the nijimale or indie contacts to thrive so it would go stale quick

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>>14956556
Of course they don't, they in holostars.

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The only way Holostars EN was ever going to happen is if Cover wanted to pull a power move and beat Nijisanji to market with male chuubas. Now that oppurtunity is gone so I can't see it happening.

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>>14957097
>>14957126
I'm imagining my perfect world where they all have amazing chemistry together and almost all seem like old friends, but I recognize that's probably less than likely so they'd have to change things. More than anything I just want them to feel like "holostars" rather than a generation of "hololiveEN but with men". Being closer in peoples minds to hololiveEN than to their own senpai would seem kind of lame to me, so however they manage to do that would be fine by me. I don't mind collabs with the girls, so long as they avoid the more concerning ones.

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>>14951569
>They did an audition a year ago where they accepted guys too
DYRB?

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>>14957397
they "accepted" applications from males. doesn't mean they ended up selecting them for interviewers or phase 2. so yes, technically, he's completely right.

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They waited 5 and a half full Japanese gens before unleashing 1 single EN branch
What makes you think they wanna add english homos
Theres barely any homos to begin with
Oh no Guras average viewership was 4 gay men and 1 boomers debut stream views, Yagoo take notice

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If there was to be any Holostars EN, what kind of dudes would you want? Given the fact that a decent amount of Stars JP aren't straight-up fujobait like the Niji boys seem to be.

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>>14957273
I don't agree at all with your statement. Cover has been known for trying to muscle into markets because Niji did it. There's an official hololive India twitter account asking for help getting into the market from when niji tried to do an india branch. Of course they backed the fuck off when they saw how that went for nijisanji. The only way Cover would try to do a Holostars EN is if Nijisanji had successful EN male chuubas. At the moment it's looking like Nijisanji hit a small goldmine. I don't buy the "there weren't any good male talents" excuse that's been put out, they never had any intention of doing holostars EN because they figured cute girls doing cute things is a safer bet because of how badly they bungled holostars. If guys like Vox continue to grow they'll probably seriously start to consider doing Holostars EN. If they actually commit to doing it is a different story because it'll be another large investment that won't be as profitable as shitting out hololive EN 3 Fartsniffers. I'd bet it would be around Holo ID/Stars JP numbers though in terms of actual profit. They'd probably be around NijiEN numbers subscriber wise.

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>>14957570
>aren't straight-up fujobait like the Niji boys seem to be
Only a partial of NijiJP are fujobait tho, I kinda wished for someone like Gwelu for starsEN, or some bros who's live I can relate to like NijiIDboys

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>>14957570
I like men who sit down, shut the fuck up and only speak when spoken to. Men who know their place and how to stay on their lane.

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>>14957641
So holo won't try to make a male EN branch until the nijis break 200k?

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>>14957641
One (1) lucky VA hire is not going to sway the glance of the most popular international vtuber agency
Sorry but theres male indies more relevant than these men and no ones running to start their own male branch
They just did it because Nijisanji is always coed
Yagoo is perfectly content trying to make his current jap homos into something, he doesnt need to debut flops or distill the EN pool more after council

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>>14957738
it's not just on subs, but CCV, superchat numbers, etc, as a whole.

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>>14957794
Atleast 2 or 3 of them will be 3 views. They went too hard on the Vox guy and i feel mafia boy, the boring one who looks like a genuine woman and glasses have work to do
Mysta has past followers and has the overly camp faggot shit that works in his favor

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>>14957315
That feeling of "hololiveEN but with men" will happen regardless, but only if the EN management doesn't repeat what happened with the StarsJP back when they started, and being close to their JP senpai will always be a problem because the whole gen won't be filled with bilinguals that know Japanese, just look at the Nijiboys or even HoloEN in general. Since EN is much less focused in the idol part (allegedly) there won't be the clear distinction like how it is with JP, and there will be the problem that >>14957126 pointed out: even if they have godlike chemistry it's impossible the 3, 5 or 6 (gunning for all the starting numbers here) will share the exact same interests, and they will want to collab with others, and for those who don't know Japanese their first option will be the EN senpai. I also do hope that if StarsEN ever happens they build themselves up to be their own thing, but I also don't want a repeat of 2019 fucking their earlier growth. The NijiJP males could collab with the female members Day 1 and now Kuzuha is currently the most subbed member of them and most watched Vtuber, and some of the best performing talents of the whole group are also guys, so I don't think a StarsEN collabing with HoloEN will make them less unique.

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>>14957978
Kuzuha is subbed a lot because he appeals to men
He is your typical variety streamer personality you would find on another website except he can sing too
HoloStars are male idols, they actually call themselves that too. They're not gunning to be a 60 to 80% male audience
This is why the only way it'd work is you abandon the idol label like they did with EN but I just don't see them putting the resources into something they're not sure would ever happe
People love to cite Hololive used to directly copy and compete with 2434 but you dont see HoloKR do ya

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>>14957570

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>>14958094
>but you dont see HoloKR do ya
They thought about it for a little while, though.
https://twitter.com/hololive_Kr
https://twitter.com/hololive_In

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>>14958906
theres also holo espanol
these twitter accounts purpose is to translate the main JP accoubt into other languages
this is still the main purpose of the hololive en account literally
all holoen announcements are announced on the main jp account first

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StarsEN has a catch 22
>If they go idol they will put off the male audiences to chase a non existent demo in the west
>If they drop the idol aspect they become variety streamers but with restrictions, effectively worse off than being normal streamer

Seeing as a lot of guys get by on being vulgar and doing what they want I think the corporate life won't be smooth sailing. I can only see the safe pair of hands approach working for a young audience who is maybe uncomfortable with all the drama most ecelebs provide.

>>14957978
>Since EN is much less focused in the idol part (allegedly)
They aren't generic idols but neither is most of JP. Yet they still handle themselves pretty different than even most corporate streamers. They adapted the idol experience for the west.

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>>14958982
Guys can "go idol" way easier than girls, for instance Chronoir are idols but Kanae talks about porn plus he does collabs with women and shipping teetee.

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>>14958982
My one idea and probably others is that could work is they literally just debut an EN male vsinger
He doesn't need to be loreshit like irys but hire a bilingual vsinger

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based homobeggars thread

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I am dreaming dat /vt/ dream... I can see it so clearly...

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>>14958997
nijisanji music sub groups really arent what ud call a traditional idol troupe
Alot of the time they form for a few group singles, a concert performance then kinda fuck off

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>>14951653
Like NTRoberu?

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>>14959029
>debut an EN male vsinger
Maybe not the worst idea, though it may still come off as idol shit or female focused. Debuting one guy is a risk, all your eggs in one basket. Maybe a gen of generally musically talented guys, like I'd watch someone who talked about mixing or could play an instrument real good. You can get the musical aspect there without it feeling a certain way.

>>14958997
This isn't just about "going idol" aka making a bit of music, but about overall attitude and character. If they have a very non-idol attitude then the competition is every other male streamer who has more freedom.

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>>14956077
The Stars are free to make as many friends as they want, many of them are regularly collabing with indies or Niji girls.
But you can't force the Hololive girls to collab with them if they aren't interested in that in the first place.
The few exceptions being Fubuki, Matsuri, Choco and in a lesser extent, Roboco. (the ID girls, too)
Also, your intent on collabing with the girls would be the reason why you'd never be accepted in the first place.

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>>14952881
??????
>>14956077
Mixed gender collabs are borefest most of the time. Females would act more mild mannered around males, letting the males steal all the spotlights, OR act like simps toward the males, there is no in-between. Meanwhile, the males would be pretty restricted about what they could say in collabs. They would be less funny and less toxic around the females or else the females' white knights would rip them to pieces. Unless... they know each other very well/are old friends / VERY sociable extroverts, mixed gender collab might works.
>>14956593
There are other things on fujos' minds other than bussies, you know?

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>>14960772
I think there is a problem there though. Anyone going in would expect to be part of the EN ecosystem, both fans and potentially the talent. A lot of western fans don't even understand why holos are kinda different and see it on the same level as anitubers. If none of them collab/kinda ignore that'll look bad. If one collabs and the rest ignores that'll cause endless drama.

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>>14951569
Unironically: If I were to be in HolostarsEN, I'd have an audience as big as Kiara's

Ge tmad

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Who the fuck would want to join starsEN when co-workers treat your name like you are candlejack and fans see you as a mistake? Niji environment for males is way better.

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>>14961610
obviously those who sees holo as the more relevant corpo in the western sphere

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>>14960947
>????????
There's been a running gag about the need for a fujo pandering style guide in the aspiring vtuber thread for a little while

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>>14952805
>Shonen designs
>comedians
>With musical talent
>that can make you coom

Check

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>>14952805
Damn, cover better put you in charge when it happens.

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>>14961009
Being part of the EN ecosystem, sure. But not the Hololive one. There's plenty of other EN Vtubers to collab with and HoloEN is even more isolationist than HoloJP.
Why do people expect a HolostarsEN to be closer to Hololive than the regular Holostars are?

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>>14961726
I'm not that anon but I've given so many fucking fujo tips in that thread...

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>>14951569
Why would they bother? It's already failed for them once, and it conflicts with the business model they have based their success on.
If you want homos then Niji is set up to cater to that.

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>>14962889
>But not the Hololive one
That's the whole appeal of being part of Holo, access to other popular streamers. The brand is the talent and thus only having half the name and no contact is worthless for a streamer's growth.

>Why do people expect a HolostarsEN to be closer to Hololive than the regular Holostars are?
>>14961009
>A lot of western fans don't even understand why holos are kinda different and see it on the same level as anitubers

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>>14963259
Holostars are not the same as Hololive.
This is probably just another reason that HolostarsEN will never exist. Lots of EN fans can only see them as male Hololive when the groups act very different from each other.

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>>14962989
I'm sure I've read yours too, I just had to reply to her for having written an entird fujo pandering style guide

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>>14963580
This is precisely why I'd like to see a HolostarsEN. I can't speak Japanese but I really like what I've seen from those guys that has been translated

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>>14961726
Okay....
If you want to fujobait effectively, you need a friend. Toxic banters with your friend and create "sexual tension" with him. It doesn't have to be real gay shits, you don't have to say that you love his cock, or being a total vulgar homoslut. Just show to the audience that you're passionate about him, emotionally. Love-hate dynamic is popular in romantic comedies, the classic meet someone you hate then it turned into love. Think about Naruto and Sasuke, Deku and bakugo, etc...
This is why some fujos are flocking to even a bro streamer.

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More important than corporate tribalism is content. When will we get male virtuals who don't play hours of boring video games? Youtube already has millions of hours of Let's Play videos already.

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>>14957675
Same, would have honestly been pretty nice to get those kind of designs, but, sadly, they seemed like they wanted to go really hard into going for the female audience and we got what we got.
Mind you some of them are kinda nice but it's clear the intention they had when making them, good luck to those guys with dealing with the kind of viewers that will inevitably attract.

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>>14963683
I just don't see it happening anon. This isn't like Nijisanji where they've been easing the audiences into it, if Cover were to do it now it'd be a really awkward fit and actually piss off possible gachikoi considering the company's predominant focus on females.
Plus there was incentive to start HoloEN because there was a huge demand for it. Not only is there probably not a huge demand for Holostars EN, the existing Stars make it sound like they don't even want there to be a new gen at all.

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>>14957570
>If there was to be any Holostars EN, what kind of dudes would you want?
The most funniest dudes they can fucking find.

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>>14961610
i just want to see unicorns seethe

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>>14973082
Yeah, I hear you. Wish it wasn't that way. I'd watch them even if they were completely isolated from Hololive EN

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>>14971724
>When will we get male virtuals who don't play hours of boring video games?
Suggestions?
la creatividad content takes a lot of prepwork. I doubt they can do 'Pomu goes to court' regularly. What else can they do, ASMR streams? Language learning? Meme reviews? Cooking?

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>>14961844
nijisanji jp already has this

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>>14973082
>Plus there was incentive to start HoloEN because there was a huge demand for it.
No there wasn't. Late 2019 Hololive fanbase was barely existent in the West; Cover took a huge gamble in even creating the branch and got lucky that the pandemic happened.

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>>14973082
>the existing Stars make it sound like they don't even want there to be a new gen at all.
I remember some of them mentioning this, the group is so tight nit at this point that they'd feel awkward having someone new introduced at this point after all of them built up the stars from being 2 views together.

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>>14973082
>Plus there was incentive to start HoloEN because there was a huge demand for it.
This is a lie.