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14635235 No.14635235 [Reply] [Original]

The top 5 Hololivers are responsible for a fourth of Hololive's views, both total views and last 30 days. They get more views than the bottom thirty Hololivers combined. Isn't it about time to get rid of some of the dead weight?

>> No.14635263

>>14635235
If they were to do that, they would start with Roboco, Aki and Mel and no one wants that

>> No.14635324

>>14635263
>Mel
Even if Cover starts removing dead weight, they would never fire her.

>> No.14635396

>>14635263
Man I feel like the lone Aki Lover on this board sometimes

>> No.14635419

>>14635396
No one hates her; it's just that people forget she exists sometimes.

>> No.14635447

>>14635396
I like her. I don't like watching her. Not very interesting to me.

>> No.14635452

>>14635263
Who?x3

>> No.14635496

>>14635235
Why are chumkeks like this?

>> No.14635620

>>14635235
Ok, now do revenue.

>> No.14635750

>>14635235
Quit using my oshi for your stupid bait threads

>> No.14635766

>>14635496
But Pekora, Marine, Fubuki and Calli all have more views than Gura. Not just by a little either, Pekora has over 30% more views than Gura. Marine has 25% more.

>> No.14635908

>>14635750
Why?

>> No.14635916

views only matter as a metric of how popular they are, but in the end only profits matter
plus, it seems Cover takes to themselves to help holos with low numbers (see the boys), so no, it's not "time to prune" anyone

>> No.14636008

>>14635396
Aki is my oshi. Her zatsudans are the best. Especially when she is a bit tipsy.

>> No.14636090

>>14635750
Why is Sana on ANOTHER break? She's not even officially announcing it because of the shitstorm it would create KEK

>> No.14636113

>>14635916
>>14635620
Ad revenue is directly tied to views retard. Even if you just count merchandise the most popular Hololivers make many times more than any of the bottom Hololivers.

>> No.14636126

>>14636090
She streamed like 40 hours in the past 7 days what are you talking about

>> No.14636174

Fucking retard, you say this as if someone with 1k average viewers wouldn't still be a net profit to cover corp. No need to be rid of anyone unless you're some kinda faggot who doesn't want anyone associated with the Hololive brand that isn't mega popular

>> No.14636391

>>14636174
The Nijisanji strategy gets you short term profits but it ruins the brand image and sacrifices long term viability.

>> No.14636732

>>14635235
>trash IP that prints money for free
That's not how business works.

>> No.14636745

>>14636090
>>14636126
She's already said on stream multiple times that she's taking a holiday break

>> No.14636794

Hololive should monetize clippers, basically give the big clippers official Hololive support along with some deals like exclusive access to certain content, chance to shill merch and get a cut of the profit, etc. In exchange for a cut of the clipper revenue, they'd double their profits. Obviously they'd need to avoid strong arming people or banning channels if they wanted to keep the fans happy but I think most clippers would fall in line with just carrots and sticks wouldn't be necessarily.

>> No.14636831

>>14636732
And how is the Nijisanji school of business working out for them?

>> No.14636883

>>14636794
Wasn't Ame trying to hire somebody to post clips on her channel? Did she give up on that or ever give any explanation?

>> No.14637012

>>14636794
Let's Players like OneyPlays already realized how popular compilation videos are and started hiring makers of those videos for their own channel. Hololive should absolutely get on that.

>> No.14637045

Sana is cute

I was never a huge fan of Coco but it still sucked when she quit, I doubt even Cover would throw Holos under the bus directly.

>> No.14637083

Outfit reveal supas

>Calli
17.2k (2 hour stream, vast majority came in at reveal, few thousand after)

>Kiara
11.1k (plus extra 4k from botched stream)

>Gura
8.1.k USD

>Ame
7.8k

>Ina
3.7k

Superchats are the best way to earn money, superchats and views rarely align. Merch has production cost, youtube ad revenue is a fools game.

>> No.14637185

>>14637083
So are you saying that the top 5 Hololivers don't make more in superchats than the bottom 30?

>> No.14637204

>>14637083
Hololive merch is severely overpriced, it should be their biggest money maker aside from sponsors with how overpriced it is, production costs are minimal

>> No.14637217

>>14635766
>>14637083
What happened Chumbros? I thought Gura was the most popular vtuber.

>> No.14637237

>>14636113
Memberships? Superchats? Sponsored advertising (Missing Lessons etc)? Album sales? Go back to /numbers/ if you're going to persist in being an ignoramus.

>> No.14637259

>>14635235
>3/4th of your views are dead weight
Tell me you haven't graduated high school without telling me you haven't graduate high school

>> No.14637398

>>14635235
Uhh Holobros? I thought Hololive was all about quality over quantity?

>> No.14637480

>>14635766
but the VOD views

>> No.14637503

>>14637083
Imagine waking up at three in the evening after a long night playing video games, watching youtube videos and masturbating. Then going to the kitchen to eat breakfast never bothering to get dressed and spend the day lounging around until you have to "work" by talking in front of camera for a couple hours and making ten thousand dollars for just that one video.

>> No.14637601

>>14637259
>top 5 hololivers who have 1/4 of the views have more views than the bottom 30
>somehow this means the bottom 30 have 3/4 of the views

>> No.14637699

>>14636113
Hololive's strong point is pretending they aren't a soulless company when clearly they are. If hololive starts firing people like roboco who 'only' get like 3000 live viewers at peak (putting her vastly above the other 99% of streamers out there) then it will rub a lot of people the wrong way as well as alienating higher-viewing holomems who are friends with roboco and possibly have them consider leaving on their own to do a kson/delta.

Basically you're literally retarded and a soulless corporatized faggot.

>> No.14637790

>>14637699
You say that but the Holoshills will defend their company no matter what.

>> No.14637799

>>14637185
Doesn’t Rushia still mog everyone besides Coco in SC revenue? And she’s not in the top 5 for views

>> No.14637838

>>14637790
I only care about the girls

>> No.14638112

>>14635235

that ratio isn't even as imbalanced as I would have guessed desu

>> No.14638180

>>14635235
Then they’d get rid of Sana and Kiara who make up a sizeable bulk of their gen’s superchats. If they want to prioritize profit, they’d get rid of mid-tier holos who get low supers and meh viewrship.

>> No.14638462

>>14635235
I love it when numberfags think they know what they're talking about.

>> No.14640151

>>14637799
She's not in the bottom thirty either.

>> No.14640207

>>14637503

You’re right but they lose 2/3rds from cuts and then that gets taxed like mad

But still, it’s nuts

>> No.14640332

>>14637503

They DO have other projects floating but are also well aware of how lucky they are

>> No.14640974

>>14637838
Only faggots would care more about Cover than the girls.

>> No.14641208

>>14635235
>hololivers

>> No.14641835

I have never seen anyone who hates their own talent more than Holofags . It's disgusting how you want your own talent to be fired.

>> No.14641898

>>14641835
>liking someone from a group means you have to like every single other member of the group

>> No.14642381

>>14641898
>He is incapable of liking a Hololive member without wanting other Hololive members to be fired
Ogey...

>> No.14642460

>>14635235
Thinly veiled Sana anti thread?

>> No.14642550

>>14635235
>Isn't it about time to get rid of some of the dead weight?
why

>> No.14642749
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14642749

>>14641835
Infighting is popular among holokeks. They're like blacks fighting and inciting gang wars even though they came from the same race. Just look at the HoloEn fans for example.
>one of the girls posts unity fanart on twitter
>SHE FAKING IT
>the girls are doing simple banter during collabs
>THEY HATE EACH OTHER HAHAHAHAHA
>all of them do a collab where they stream it on their own channels and one of the girls have higher views than this one girl
>HAHAHAHA SHE HAS 0 ZIEWS NO ONE IS WATCHING HER X FANBASE JUST KEEPS ON WINNING
Jesus Christ, patients from Arkham Asylum pales in comparison with hololive fans

>> No.14644142

bump!

>> No.14645380

I think you seriously forgetting that vtubers in holo are not only there for streaming... In Japan you have whole industry behind them with tats, adverts and idol related stuff.

Also number of views doesn't really matter for cover Corp. It's overall income from members that include all their work not only views and SC.

>> No.14645435

>>14642749
It's a symptom where Hololive is so boring that they have to keep making up drama and gossip just to entertain each other rather than watching streams. When you see Holokeks move outside the Holo ecosystem, they try the same shit only for people to slap them down for it.

>> No.14649140

>>14645435
Meanwhile every other group of vtubers are so boring nobody talks about them.

>> No.14650639

>>14635235
>Isn't it about time to get rid of some of the dead weight?

No. Even from purely cynical business standpoints (so no feelgood bleeding heart bullshit) there are less upside reasons to "get rid of deadwood" than potential downsides and risks.

First of all, right from the outset the premise of "deadwood" is flawed in this particular industry.
It would matter only insofar as the expenses are greater than the earnings, thus if you'd actually "lose money" on those "underperformers". But that's not really the case.
Even the "lowest" Holo brings easily more in than she "costs". The money from superchats, ad-impressions, memberships, sponsorships, merch etc. is still greater than whatever expenses you may have with them (for example, the bi-annual model update, or wages for a shared manager overseeing them, or initial production costs for merch).

Also, don't underestimate the "psychological" damage such a policy of cutting underperformers would bring.

internally: it would make the Holo talents needlessly more anxious, desperate and prone to mental health destruction, if they knew their continued life is dependant on some arbitrary performance numbers. Sure, we all like to rag on some few who seem to be coasting or free riders, but those are probably preferable to the greater damage to a larger number of talents that'd be incurred if you try to change into a more ruthless system. Also, this board by and large already dislikes (open) numberfagging by the talents, but this would only institute an "official numberfagging policy", and you'd only get more talents being obnoxious numberfags from it, because their livelihood is now at stake.

externally: Cover very much tries to preserve a humble le heckin wholesomerino "aw shucks we are just one big happy idol family of underdog girls growing to achieve our dreams!!! :-D" imagery to its fans, not least because this emotional investment into the parasocial relationship with the fans makes it more likely for them to open up their wallets (and thus, more money for Cover also). A policy to "cut underperformers" would upset that facade and not be well received, thus Cover would be best to leave that well alone.

>> No.14651409

>>14649140
unless theres drama. lol.

>> No.14654579

>>14635396
Respect to you my dude

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14654925

>>14635235
>corporate hands typed this post
>OP is pic related

>> No.14654983

because views is not the same things as rentability, retard

>> No.14654987

Interesting you should say that since youtube is the same. 10% of the top channels make up about 70% of the most viewed videos on the platform and 10% of the most viewed videos make up 79% of all views on the platform based on pew research. The rest are just fighting over the other percent. It's not surprising that the top content creators are what is holding up the platform/ company in the case of Hololive. If there is nobody at the bottom, you can't gauge the success of those who are at the top.

>> No.14655009

>Hololive should lose reputation, reach and profits for no reason

>> No.14655085

>>14637503
heaven is reached for those who pursue it

>> No.14655346

>>14637083
Holy moly, KFP...are you OK?

>> No.14655457

Total Superchat Revenue (according to Playboard):
>Kronii: $138,021
>Sana: $81,394
>Baelz: $69,996
>Fauna: $60,806
>Mumei: $60,066
sub numbers don't tell the whole story

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14655676

>>14655457
Its funny how the gfe/asmr focused chuuba is second to the last when it comes to paypig numbers

>> No.14655909

>>14635396
>>14635419
Aki's biggest problem is very similar to Sana's actually. They're both relatively normal girls who just do what they enjoy, and that's about it. They both have nothing beyond character design to stand out (Aki's for the good, Sana's for the bad or tits).

>> No.14656092

>>14635396
You are not alone Rosetai friend.

>> No.14656354

>>14637790
Not this time if that happen. That mean they can malice to our oshis

>> No.14656439

>>14637790
Coco helps Hololive control drama from her graduation. If she just say " shecwas fired " and Hololive will burn to the ground that day.

>> No.14661164

>>14649140
Other than the Holofags who always bitch in vshojo/nijisanji/indie/etc threads.

Now we go full circle

>> No.14661487

>>14635396
You are not alone, its just that most rosetais never seem to post or even take bait, me included. I'm here for Aki and little else matters

>> No.14663167

>>14635235
You're the dead weight

>> No.14668208

Numbers!

>> No.14669854

Since this is a not so thinly veiled Sana critique thread:
I found Sana's month break ridiculous because my aunt's dog also passed away the exact same week. He was with her in his entire lifetime of 16 years, and was a gift from her dad who was murdered by hitmen right in front of her a couple of years later. Even when she got a new puppy a few years ago, the other pup was still her favorite and she pampered him real good right up until his inevitable passing.
Now when he did pass, my aunt did exactly as a loving pet owner did and cried buckets, held an actual, organized funeral including a wake, and took two weeks off work even just a month after being promoted.
Two. Weeks. Off.
Then she was back on her feet, still holding him dearly in her mind but back to her usual chatty self, back off to work.

I know everyone grieves differently, but a whole month is ridiculous. There must've been something else.

>> No.14677173

>>14669854
The more likely scenario was that her break was not to be intended as long as it was, but she got cucked around that time because of Austrailia's government throwing up new COVID measures somewhat arbitrarily which is why she wasn't 100% certain when she'd be able to return, plus there's a good chance management didn't want her to potentially create any yabais by bringing up the subject directly.

I don't think it was wrong for her to take a break if she wasn't in the right headspace after losing someone who in her mind was a family member, but 1-800-COME-ON some of the rrats about her break nowadays are so bloated and dead the gasses are expelling into the air.

>> No.14678407

>>14635235
I am always on board with anything that helps destroying the holobronies.
Imagine all the seething they would have if 30 holos graduated suddenly.

>> No.14678491

I see people watching these boring ass hololive stream with these awful talents like Sana, and I shake my head. I can only imagine these people don't know any other vtubers besides hololive, because otherwise they wouldn't be watching this.

>> No.14678653

>>14635235
>Isn't it about time to get rid of some of the dead weight?
No.

>> No.14678910

>>14677173
If that was the case, why didn't she just say that? How hard is it to say that local rules meant the break had to be extended? She has communication issues and this is coming from someone who really likes Sana. She's pretty stubborn and does things her way. That side of her is hot as fuck (similar to Kiara) but also frustrating.

>> No.14679792

>>14636090
Nigga even with another break only mori and chicken have streamed more hours this month than sana.

>> No.14680809

>>14678910
Because of the kayfabe of being a Japanese-style idol.

>> No.14683442

>>14636090
Australia has reembraced its roots as a penal colony. She's not even supposed to go outside unless its a trip to the grocery. If she wants to visit her family in a different state/province, she needs government permission.
She also does massive endurance streams that put the rest of HoloEN to shame.

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