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>open yt
>see this on my frontpage
>urge to save instantly skyrockets
How the fuck do I stop being a saviorfag? It never ends well either the chuuba stays small, gets depressed and quits or getd big and changes for the worse

>> No.14579126

>>14579085
isn't this the girl that's in a weird creepy pseudo relationship with her chat?

>> No.14579179
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14579179

>>14579085
Watch Rui.

>> No.14579181

>>14547536
>op /vt/
>see /here/fag on the frontpage
>urge to kill him to save the site from newfags like him skyrockets
How the fuck do we stop /here/fags from supporting 2 views that want to send redditors here?

>> No.14579194

>more than 2 viewers.
>Had a thread with over 200+ post, and it's not her first.
>She's /here/
Anon, your savior reps....

>> No.14579208

>>14579126
Yeah, I tried watching her once, way too creepy for me.

>> No.14579248

>>14579179
give me three reasons why i should

>> No.14579324

>>14579179
anon, i need more than one name and a pic to fap

>> No.14579404

>>14579126
And she cucked them all KEK
>Captcha: 8SLVT

>> No.14579425

>>14579179
My nigga. Wish she had a schedule though.

>> No.14579597

what's wrong with parasocial relationship with chuuba qt

>> No.14579646

>>14579597

Depends on if it's getting in the way of normal relationships. But if you're some ultra neckbeard then it doesn't matter because no one would love you anyway.

>> No.14579664

>>14579085
Kys groomer

>> No.14579703

>>14579646
i have no normal relationships

>> No.14579742

>>14579126
>isn't this the girl that's in a weird creepy pseudo relationship with her chat?
That describes a fair number of them.
>>14579085
>starting out on YT as an indie
She did it to herself.

>> No.14579794
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14579794

I don't get how people can stream to a handful of a people for hours. It must be depressing and demoralizing for them, especially if they don't gain any new viewers after a few months.

>> No.14579880

>>14579742
i don't think it's that common anon

>> No.14580025

>>14579085
She doesn't need saving, she seems happy with her small collection of fans that adore her unconditionally and probably wouldn't appreciate people trying to "save" her

>> No.14580392

https://streamable.com/oxbpsz

https://streamable.com/z6ylmn

>> No.14580427

>>14579085
>How the fuck do I stop being a saviorfag?
just dont be a faggot

>> No.14580664

>>14579208
>>14579126
i agree, normal GFE is fine but this one is a bit too extreme.

>> No.14580716

She has a permanent thread here, doesn't she? If anything, you'd have to save her from /us/

>> No.14580744

>>14580664
how bad is it?

>> No.14580824

>>14580392
She's so based.

>> No.14580917

>>14579794
I don't think I'd mind desu. It's nice to chat with familiar names even though you're not seeing their faces.

>> No.14580982

>>14579248
Cute as fuck ESL
Rubber duck squeaky
Discord community nights
Also approves of /here/ even though she barely knows what /here/ is

>> No.14581009

>>14579324
Rui vivaldy

>> No.14581010
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14581010

1. Except that you cant save them all

2. Find more personal hobbies besides Vtubers and live life because you only got 1 life to live anon

>> No.14581028

>>14580982
>Discord
Dropped.

>> No.14581044

>>14579085
She doesn't even want numbers. She starts getting worried at like 30+.

>> No.14581049

>>14580392
Is she Australian?

>> No.14581073

Please stop posting my GF already

>> No.14581096

>>14580982
>approves of /here/ even though she barely knows what /here/ is
That makes no sense

>> No.14581108

>>14581049
Chink aussie

>> No.14581123

>>14580744
She posts goodnight vocaroos on her 4chan general thread

>> No.14581151

>>14581123
Fucking cringe

>> No.14581185

>>14581108
Lmao no way her family is asian. Luto's is.

>> No.14581228

>>14579085
Has it occurred to you that some people just stream for fun

>> No.14581257

>>14579794
If you start streaming with the aspirations of becoming someone with Holo tier viewership you're certainly setting yourself up for misery. Thats why you should always go into it with minimal expectations and only stick with it if you actually enjoy it. For most 2views I imagine its enough to just chat with the few people who stop by because to them its just a fun hobby and the numbers dont matter as much.

>> No.14581266

>>14580982
>Also approves of /here/ even though she barely knows what /here/ is
This sounds like a recipe for disaster. This whole Kiki thing is a huge powder keg that will lead to a giant meltdown in the future. I just can't see this ending well.

>> No.14581281

>>14580392
>https://streamable.com/oxbpsz
I was this egdy when I was teenagers, kinda cringe ngl

>> No.14581282

>>14579085
Drop the link so I can dislike-bomb and mass-report her to kill her channel.

>> No.14581296

>>14581185
She soft confirmed it herself. Fucking ironic that she's against nignogs when her insectoid kind are shitting up Australia and NZ.

>> No.14581408

kek this rabbit has been cucking her fans since debut but her delusional white knights kept denying this truth, SAD

>> No.14581559

There are 2views who are perfectly happy with being 2views, anon.
Don't worry about it.

>> No.14581977

>>14579794
Better than 0/1 views.

>> No.14582203

>>14581281
she was very drunk and a close family just got diagnosed with cancer, she was in a terrible place when streaming those

>> No.14582317

>>14581296
You mean improving Australia, should be thanking them for diluting the methheads and "aboriginal descent" whites.

>> No.14582418

>>14580392
How is this an L? Unironically shit like this makes me want to watch her more

>> No.14582445

>>14580392
Holy based

>> No.14582449

>>14582418
the /wvt/ trannies who are posting these think anyone here cares

>> No.14582475

>>14579194
9 viewers while constantly pandering to this place is pathetic enough to be called a 2view

>> No.14582480

>>14582418
it makes her lose on collabs. Lumi from cyberlive got forced to never collab with kiki after they found out, they even made her unfollow kiki

>> No.14582486

>>14579404
QRD?

>> No.14582545

>>14582480
>Lumi
I've never heard of this woman before but seeing her show off her roommate makes me want to beat her face into a pulp

>> No.14582562

>>14581151
If you're going to do GFE, you need to go ALL IN.

>> No.14582584

>>14582486
She is possessive
She doesn't want you watching other chuubas
She is doing everything she can to appeal to scrape bottom of barrel /vt/ for views
Her strategy is shameless but it's been working to some modicum of success

>> No.14582606

>>14582545
Wrong Lumi

>> No.14582642

>>14582584
> It’s been working
> 9 views
> Saying shit that will make it so even if she does get a sizeable audience the Twitter trannies will cancel her to the ground
Oh yes anon, it’s working damn well.

>> No.14582658

>>14582486
>promises her fanbase no discord, everyone is equal, no personal dms except for business etc
>steam popup shows up when she's playing a game
>she's friends with a cyberlive mod (& presumably the rest of the mods)
>dm screenshots come out that she dms her inner circle
>kiki freaks out, calls it bait
>later more screenshots leak
>cue waterworks
>cuck fanbase STILL defends her

>> No.14582680

>>14582642
Already milked a pc, microscope, and a mic out of it. So not too bad at all

>> No.14582694
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14582694

>>14582545
this lumi not the fin one

>> No.14582711

>>14582658
Is it archived?

>> No.14582766

>>14582658
it's so shameless and I just hope that champyons could be a bit more self aware
what they do with their time and money is their business

>> No.14582786

>>14582680
My 2view friend has also managed to milk a $800 dono while streaming on Twitch, it’s just being a woman on the internet anon, nothing special.

>> No.14582792

>>14582658
oh you silly goose. we've been over this. enough rrats.

>> No.14582834
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14582834

Why do you guys care so much about a handful of anons being weirdos on the internet?
Their not hurting anyone

>> No.14582876

>>14581559
>There are 2views who are perfectly happy with being 2views, anon.
how?

>> No.14582898

>>14582834
I wouldn’t be on here if I couldn’t insult the retards on here over anime women anon. This is the only place where I can truly be my autistic self.

>> No.14582919

>>14582834
>Their
It's "they're".

>> No.14582922

>>14582711
i believe she nuked a bunch of her old videos, archives have the screenshots.
>>14582766
she's got em wrapped around her finger by now, self-awareness is never coming kek
>>14582792
damage control cuckpyon coming in hot

>> No.14582925

>>14582876
The ones doing it as a hobby. Just like the people playing soccer for fun, anon. They know they’re never going to make it pro but it doesn’t mean they can’t have fun doing it.

>> No.14582968

>>14582925
i don't see how vtubing can be fun

>> No.14582995

>>14582925
I don't know, I had workmates who played soccer for fun and they all say they could have made it pro if they hadn't crossed their ligaments.

>> No.14583012

>>14582968
Fair point. I guess pandering to lonely coomers while being too ugly to not hide behind an avatar is fun to some people.

>> No.14583066

>>14582792
On the bright side, cuckposters like him make it incredibly obvious when they're making things up.

>> No.14583079
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14583079

>>14582834
It's the modern internets need to know absolutely everything about everyone for no discernible reason as a means of getting mad at nothing
It's the same people who shriek about shit like wh40k not having female astartes or worly warcraft having a painting with a big tiddied girl on it
Normal people don't care, they see this stuff think "huh that's weird" and go to their own threads and post about their oshi

>>14582876
I watch indies and it's fun to have a relaxed and more connected experience with the streamer

>> No.14583211

>>14579085
>urge to save instantly skyrockets
I sub to every single one of them.

>> No.14583266
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14583266

What's wrong with you?
Why does this chuuba live rent free inside your head?

>> No.14583290

>>14582658
wait for real? why does something like this happen with every /here/tuber...

>> No.14583326

>>14582658
Cyberlive mods continue to be chads.

>> No.14583474

>>14583290
not making anything up, it's the plain truth. that's why her fanbase gets so fucking assmad about it, they know it's true and they can't do shit about it except call people gooses.
& they still call her a sweet girl after she proved herself an incurable attention whore. yeah all chuubas are, but she's way past the line.

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14583544

>>14583474
Ogey?
Just wait her out you retards. Doing this smeering campaign is only introducing her to more anons

>> No.14583661

>>14583544
Smeer implies a distortion of the truth. This is more like a public service to said anons who dont know the whole story

>> No.14583718

>>14583544
It's not possible for them. She lives completely rent free in their heads. Unironically. For the past few days she has just been playing Nier and for some reason their blood just started boiling. They are upset about her saying politically incorrect things months ago, you can guess what those things were there's only so many groups of people that would seethe this hard, and have been shitposting her ever since.

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14583773

>>14583661
Anon... I have my Oshi and I'll never give her up or let her down, but those webms being posted gives me a positive light to her. My only fear is that she'll be banned for being too based

>> No.14583812

>>14579085
Look how cute my wife is !

>> No.14583938

>>14583718
Okay, I dunno which side of schizos is right here but I am inclined to believe the people you're accusing because nobody honest would make a retarded assertion like "there are very few groups of people who would seethe this hard". Either the most dishonest or most clueless retard ever. There is an infinite number of different groups on the Internet who'll seethe over nothing and everything

>> No.14584305

>>14583938
You can believe what you want. One group is constantly seething and shitposting about an anime girl, the other is just watching her play video games.

>> No.14584439

>>14584305
Looks more like one group is seething about an anime girl and the other group is seething about the first group. Neither is watching her play video games.

>> No.14584596

>>14584439
>Second group enjoying their anime girls
>First group comes into second groups thread
>First group starts violently shitting and pissing everywhere
>Second group tells them to fuck off
>"DURR SEETHE COPE SEETHE COPE"
>First group refuses to fuck off
>Here we are now
If you weren't so fucking new you would understand this pattern and how this shit works and not say these incredibly fucking braindead retarded things. This kind of behavior isn't exclusive to vtubers

>> No.14584651

>trannies attempt to emotionally manipulate a relatively severe autistic girl.
No wonder trannies are the niggers of the LGBT

>> No.14584710

>>14583773
You don't have to be worried about that, Niji Nina is the opposite of based.

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14584767

>>14584710
Sorry, I was talking about the /here/ chuuba pardon my ESL

>> No.14584818

>>14579085
>either the chuuba stays small, gets depressed and quits or getd big and changes for the worse
What's wrong with quitting? The only way most of those 1views view learn and improve is by realizing they suck at streaming, and maybe start pursuing an actual job or hobby instead of wasting time on youtube. It's just like with fatties, calling them fat until they decide to stop eating junk is 100x more effective in getting them to change their life around than babying them.

>> No.14584839

>>14584596
Mate, don't give me that "you're new" shit. If you yourself weren't new you wouldn't be explaining to a fence sitting shitposter why it's valid for you to be seething. Since you're so cute, I'll let you in on a secret. If you want to invite less shitposters that aren't in the anti or pro camp, don't say vague shit that's more interesting than the vtuber being discussed.

>> No.14584862

>>14584818
She streams as a hobby anon. She doesn't want to get big.

>> No.14584890

>>14584710
>Makes 4trooners seethe
>Not based
Seems based to me

>> No.14584924

>>14584710
Because she isn't afraid of playing the game? Not everyone is like Kiki, vtubing is an actual job for some people and making more money is always welcome.

>> No.14584945

>>14584839
I don't even mind normal shitposting. It's when it goes on for months that I question the mental stability if the people doing it.

>> No.14584995

>>14579085
>save
You can't even save yourself.

>> No.14585012

>>14584839
What I said isn't wrong anon

>> No.14585208

>>14584862
Millions of people are doing fine just playing games by themselves in private as a hobby. Broadcasting it to the public does in fact mean you want attention from other people.

>> No.14585210

>>14585012
If we pretend that we are posting on reddit for a moment, yes. But when we remember this is 4chan it suddenly becomes completely irrelevant and what you described looks like 2 (groups of) people seething and posting vague accusations directed at the subject matter.

>> No.14585324

>>14585208
There's different levels of attention. She just wants a small group of people. Not everyone wants to grow and stream to hundreds or thousands.

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14585334

>>14585210
You really are retarded

>> No.14585464

>>14585334
I'm not the one accusing your vtuber of political yab, you are.

>> No.14585781

>This whole thread is authored by two people
>I am neither one
WHAT THE FUCK IM GOING CRAZY

>> No.14585868

>>14582658
based

>> No.14586736

>>14585781
meds

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14586866

>>14583290
>>14582658
>>14582711
Not only that but after she kept crying about not wanting to hurt her fans and all, and it worked, she got such donations because of it. I mean cool for her I guess but I'm not interested in watch that.

>> No.14586917

>>14586866
Yeah, from that same VOD, everyone telling her it was just one guy not enjoying the situation


>"I feel so stupid for genuinely falling in love with chat it feels so weird i really like it that, makes me really happy, i'm not drunk sorry i'm just overwhelmed with emotion right now
>I think it's hit me especially in the last couple of days like after our date how much how how much love i have for you i'm sorry it feels so weird that's okay though people think we're stupid but you know as long as we're happy who gives a shit let's just have fun and enjoy this

>Sorry
>I'm just gonna ignore people in the thread for now they'll go away and get bored eventually i just gotta stop reacting and if you know it's not reacting to them it's reacting to like i don't know but this will make us stronger you know this will make us stronger yeah
>Hey i won't read it anymore yeah it's it's it's obviously the same person all right that's okay
>Sorry i have tears all over my face"

>> No.14586938

>>14586866
maybe she genuinly didnt want to hurt them, maybe not every person is scheming

she is going to be donating 60% of her merch earnings to animal charities and is planning a charity stream as we fucking speak. Do your research

>> No.14586995

>>14582658
>promises her fanbase no discord
really? but she spent her days chatting in vtuber group DMs though wtf

>> No.14587035

>>14586995
yes, 9 hour streams a day, three steams a day now
has lots of time to be doing that

>> No.14587060

>>14586938
>maybe she genuinly didnt want to hurt them, maybe not every person is scheming
Stop being naive Anon. It's going to bite you in the ass. EVERYONE is scheming and would gladly stab you in the back and shit on your grave for the slightest advantage.

>> No.14587078

>>14581123
>>14581151
She also make blogpost vocaroos in other people's threads unrelated ot her https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/14114800/#14118820
I hope you'll be blessed by her vocaroos in your favorite vtuber's thread too!

>> No.14587131

this is the most disgusting shit I've seen in a while and I've seen some pretty nasty stuff, but that takes the cake

>> No.14587215

>>14587078
5 second vocaroo clip talking about how shes here forever for fun, when there were a majority of posts speaking about her, not even a gen

:( boo hoo guys she posted somewhere else!

>> No.14587273

>>14587078
how low do you have to be to egosearch & post in someone else's hate thread? attention whore lmfao, it's fucking hilarious that this hag ("loli" with a roastie voice) thought it'd be good to post in the hate thread on an actual teenager KEK

>> No.14587289

>>14587060
imagine living your life thinking this way

>> No.14587319

>>14587060
you must have a sad existence anon

>> No.14587330

>>14581096
Well that's also kiki is... a stereotype of the newfag trying too hard to be 4chan and posting without having lurked at all
Pandering to vt just from reading a few threads and pretending to be le bad racist 4chan
Yet had no idea about anything, neither OP being a fag, or that jannies won't ban the "baiters" in your thread despite asking for it during your own stream, or that you don't go selfposting in random unrelated threads too etc etc

>> No.14587364

>>14587060
Nta It feels so much better to give her my trust than to trust nobody and be bitter all the time because of it. I already lived like that.

>> No.14587413

>>14587330
you've only watched clips haven't you anon?
do your research

>> No.14587424

>>14582480
Was she forced?

>> No.14587469

>>14587424
yeah, lumi and her were friends
pippa still follows her after her management told her not to because she likes kiki

>> No.14587483

>>14582792
>>14583066
Calling everything bait may work in your thread because people get bored and had in minority, but here it just looks like hard cope and being delusional.
She knows Virial since long before anon, and half the time she's lonely she's DMing vtubers and vtuber mods in Discord, while pretending to hate it to pander to anons.

>> No.14587511

9 views
with the way shes shilled here I was under the impression she broke 100

>> No.14587525

>>14587273
This is why you need to be 18 to post on 4chan. Actual children shouldn't be here to be protected.

>> No.14587541

>>14587483
she wasnt following him before debut, there's no proof of it. You're actually deluded

>> No.14587574

>>14584862
This is always a cope, she kept worrying about numbers in the early days and switching her time slots around to get more viewers, and once she reached 1k she instantly ask her chat "it's good right? Compared to other vtubers like me?" and more, she does care bout numbers

>> No.14587607

>>14587525
she's 18 lmfao, it's fucking pathetic for a hag to do that to a teen though. especially when said hag is a fucking mess of a woman

>> No.14587629

>>14587035
I mean, yes, he doesn't even attend uni

>> No.14587644

>>14587574
She's autistic and was clearly unnerved when she had 100 viewers in a stream before.

>> No.14587661

>>14587607
shes 15, idol agencies dont fucking scout 18 year olds
fucking cope

>> No.14587697

>>14587078
Disgusting. Even selfposting with vocaroos constantly is already pretty pitiful, but doing that outside your own thread I don't even understand how anyone would be fine with that.

>> No.14587725

>>14587629
shes on a break - summer hollidays
the tranny rrat is fucking laughable, try make something more believable

t. aussie uni anon

>> No.14587772

>>14587697
yeah she didnt follow le 4chan code of conducr
absolutely disgusting!

>> No.14587778

>>14587661
ok if we're going that route, predebut kiki said in dms to her viewers that nade was a minor. doesn't that make her look worse? "knowing" she's a minor and pulling this crap anyway

>> No.14587821

>>14587778
No. Children shouldn't be on 4chan.

>> No.14587829

>>14587413
No, I know that later she claimed coming from /an/ but it's doubtful she has any experience with 4chan in general, she doesn't know any reference, takes every single bait and keep acknowledging those, tried making countless thread to shill her self before even having a name or character and didn't understand why it was deleted, overall she just acts like the worst newfag you can think of, she just wanted to use t he board to get a fanbase but had no idea about how people use anonymous boards.

>> No.14587831

>>14587778
yes, switch up your story so kiki looks bad
badgers coping

>> No.14587906

>>14587541
kek, man you're in for a pretty bad surprise I hope for you she nukes everything before that get out too much

>> No.14587947

>>14587829
she knows most references and has Aspergers
come on anon

>> No.14587954

>>14587829
You'd be surprised how much retarded shit you're shielded from when you browse smaller boards. I visit /diy/ sometimes and it's a different world.

>> No.14587965

>>14587772
she's obviously a newfag, yet didn't bother lurking at all

>> No.14587988

>>14587831
who's the one coping? it's true that kikeki said in dms that nade was a minor, fucking archive reps.

>> No.14587995

>>14579794
Numberfags are retarded. Streaming to 10 people you enjoy talking to is better than 10,000 strangers you'll occasionally acknowledge. There are plenty of vtubers that ger two and three-digit viewer counts that are far more interactive and fun to be around than just watching some corporate chuuba play a game and ignore chat

>> No.14588016

>>14587906
hello argie, how are you?

>> No.14588038

>>14587778
well predebut she said to me she thought 4chan was very toxic and glad to find nice people on twitter, you can ask her, I wonder if she will dare lying straight faced about that

>> No.14588042

I didn’t realise Kiki’s antis have got this wild. I guess she was ready to attract this kind of audience though.

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14588069

>>14583290
>/here/
There's your answer.

>> No.14588094

>>14588038
well, predebut she said she was a big fan of reddit and designed her character off of big chungus. ask her

>> No.14588109

last time I opened their thread it was half the thread about how she pissed herself on stream and people jerking off to that
I mean sure I guess have fun, without me though

>> No.14588162

>>14588109
she has actual bladder problems
champyons fucking sexualised that

kiki spoke about how uncomfortable that made her next stream, she isn't to blame for that

>> No.14588194

>>14588038
fuck man i bet nade has the best screencaps of kiki dms, too bad she's the type to stay silent even if she's on the losing end, if we get a dm leak from her kiki is finished kek. she unfollowed nade too, fair game.

>> No.14588219

The only thing I didn't appreciate is her tendency to ask for free or way underpaid work from everyone she can, even pretending to not have Aftereffects so that other vtuber had to do it for her

>> No.14588264

>>14588219
you mean getting seanigs to do stuff for you?
too based, I love this rabbit

>> No.14588269

>>14586866
and I wanted to watch cunny, now I gotta unfollow

>> No.14588332

>nade anti thread a week ago
>kiki anti thread now

someones clearly trying to cause shit between them, why cant you see that?

>> No.14588375

>>14586866
what's the point of watching basically an empty puppet who just do as the thread tells her, without a personality, just a reflection of her thread, she'll think whatever they tell her to think? It's like masturbating, expect people donate a lot of money.

>> No.14588413

>>14588375
you obviously dont watch her

whats with all the fucking tourists

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Seeing the state of this thread and /pyon/ is kinda sad, glad I left when I did honestly.

>> No.14588529

>>14588375
Kiki isn't doing what we tell her to, we're being manipulated by Kiki. It feels great, you should actually watch her

>> No.14588557

>>14588529
kiki grooms us!

>> No.14588575

>>14588042
They've completely lost their minds, it's a perfect storm of sad and hilarious.

>> No.14588614

>>14588575
>a mentally sane person on /vt/
please anon, how do you do it?

>> No.14588644

>>14587078
Sister, you forgot to post the other vocaroo >>14580392
Also what happened to all the other based clips?, there used to be like 7

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>>14588332
Anon, anyone thinking there is no bad blood between them is delusional
predebut kiki was trying to latch on anyone here she could, and Nade being a bit naive gave her multiple shout outs and even her own thread to self post ("kiki" threads got deleted since she had 0 content)
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/5979264/#5979301
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/5979264/#5981942
See how nade was so hyped and nice? Once nade leaves, kiki comes to selfpost and advertise https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/5979264/#6014139

Once she debuted kiki found "bigger" friends for collabs like Pippa, and just unfollowed Nade with no explanation, and they never interacted again.
However that didn't stop kiki from just going to some nade anti thread, bump it by selfposting about herself without a care in the world https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/14114800/#14118820

So yeah, no bad blood, not at all! Just a very fast and sweet friendship nade supported into sudden ghosting + bumping the other anti thread with her selfposts.

>> No.14588751

>>14588666
nade ghosted kiki sister

>> No.14588840

>>14588666
this kind of hurt to read. nade has professional ambitions tho, not like she'll tank her rep to drag down someone else ie: dm leaking. she isn't that kind of girl either.

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>>14587078
>nade thread
Oh shit, so it's finally all come tumbling down with her eh?
>did my archive reps
What a fucking ride. Have you ever seen a cope as hard as >>14403824 in your life? Jesas

>> No.14588955

>>14588840
not to mention, nothing happened.
people are making shit out of nothing

why are you faggots gossiping about two girls?

>> No.14588962

>>14579794
Having 2 or 3 people watch me play a game would be already more attention I get everyday
Also you'll never be rich out of this get a job retard or start drawing and make furry porn that's where the money is at
>>14587995
>Numberfags are retarded.
This

>> No.14588968

>>14582658
I'd rather watch Bea.

>> No.14589068

>>14588889
Cope.
>inclining in views
>making friends
>chasing her dreams in the entertainment industry

>> No.14589092

>>14589068
make a containment thread or something pedo

>> No.14589125

>>14589068
I'm talking about the anon who wrote that retard. Nade played the game splendidly

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>>14588413
I actually watch her, what do you want me to say to prove it? The dono opening date back and forth? Her being late 30min for her big collab because she had another collab just before with Eira (wher she started rambling about foreigners unprompted, while the collab wasn't in her channel)? How some people made a fake vocaroo of her saying she was autistic? How her new model was actually a downgrade on points like the eyes but anyone voicing any complaint was treated as some troll, even the nice drawanon who made an alternate proposition? Or maybe how she was freely DMing with people and friends she met but the fanbase decided it wasn't fair and she had to unfolllow everyone but a few vtubers. Hell, one of the accounts was a vtuber +18 accounts so they made her unfollow it too.
Or the "ring" shopping so that she can be married to all her fanbase and guys posting their hairy hands with said ring in the thread? Or the "gay sex" between champyons? Or how someone she knows IRL recognized her? Or how she sent DMs to all vtubers vaguely here in the first week to get as many collabs as possible and get maximum exposure only to stop interacting with each after they did one collab? Or how she kept mentioning piss stuff even on stream willingly but backtrack about it being uncomfortable after? Or spending a whole stream talking about one fake DM posted in the thread giving attentions to "baiters" over and over and crying that jannies wouldn't ban the trolls? It goes on.

>> No.14589179

>>14588955
>nothing happened
you can't be fucking serious, thinking that after seeing how they were at first and how it suddenly did a 180

>> No.14589182

>>14589126
so you're a dedicated anti?
sad!

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>>14589126
didnt read

>> No.14589287

Every retard that asks for /here/tubers should be fucking shot

>> No.14589319

whens the thread gonna die lol?

>> No.14589347

>>14589182
No, i had hopes for her, her interests sounded quite unique, an uni student willing to talk about microbiology, mycology, animals? Nice! Instead she slowly became anon's cumrag with the lowest of the lowest pandering, just making her personality whatever anon said it should be, barely touching her interests anymore. Giving any kind of criticism in thread became impossible a few days in because she 1. took every fucking bait 2. had all champyons become the most debilitated white knights ever
Yes her new design is pretty bad, but because it cost her so much money and all, she had to cry about it being "much closer to her real body and it's important to her" and thus it became impossible to say anything against it
Yes, she ruined herself, and I'm sad it went down like this, because she had the potential to be much more than some empty puppet

>> No.14589396

>>14589347
so you're a dedicated anti?
sad!

>> No.14589435

>>14589287
Actually most "/here/tubers" are fine when they don't make their whole personality be "4chan/vt" pandering. Some are just known to be previous anons or to lurk, and it's fine, there's a higher chance of sharing interests or humor.
But the ones who just lower themselves to pander to anons every request and opinion, and basically jut use a thread to interact, those are the lowest of the low, their whole existence is just 4chan, they have no substance.

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>>14589347
>wont talk about her interests
ogey

>> No.14589451

This is fucking high school drama.
>OMG Chloe and Chelsea aren't talking to each other anymore. I bet it's because of what Chloe said after PE, omg like it was so rude.

>> No.14589463

>>14588968
She literally just tweeted about fucking her coworker you cuck

>> No.14589479

>>14589444
Ignore the imbecile, Kiki gushes about animals almost every stream

>> No.14589486

>>14589444
Yes? She almost stream twice a day every fucking day, those streams are insanely rare to the point it's anecdotal

>> No.14589491

>>14588109
Aussie festival

>> No.14589547

Trying to inure yourself to /vt/ to get views as a streamer isn't really a great idea is what I'm getting from this thread

>> No.14589553

>>14589463
holy fuck this board is infested with burgers unable to see past 1st degree
should have known seeing the baits threads targeted at holotards working so well

>> No.14589555

>>14589486
she likes to create proper powerpoint presentations and is very perfectionistic about each because she cares so much

>> No.14589579

>>14589126
Seeing the responses is precisely why I just up and left. I thought most champyons understood she was just trying to appease people sometimes, especially with the "4chan /here/ chuuba" tagline despite either only going on one board or being a newfag, but outright, revising, lying or willfully ignoring things is plain ridiculous. She's a sweet, lovely girl and I still watch her from time to time, I think the way she views her fans is cute if a bit unorthodox, but the crowd she draws in is something else honestly.
Can't fucking talk about her without either schizo antis or schizo fans shitting everything up, calling every slightly negative thing bait or going balls off the walls with rrats.

>> No.14589592

She's based because she so racist like me! She hates troons like me! She loves cunny, like me! She repeats it every stream too, she's a real 4channer guys, so based!

>> No.14589595

Kiki needs a fan discord, anyone wants to make it?

>> No.14589625

>>14589595
holy esl

>> No.14589631

>>14589347
basado

>> No.14589678

>>14589579
I'm a bit harsh on her because I got so disappointed by how things devolved it's true. I just wish she didn't get that kind of fanbase or at least didn't change herself that much to please it. I feel sick reading some of the threads.
I know she has still some friends outside who wish her something different but she's not willing to listen as of now.

>> No.14589722

>>14589579
Virial? If it's you good luck dude, I don't know how you manage to keep your head up with whatever she became.

>> No.14589801

>>14589595
it's funny because, she spit on discord to please vt anons, but in reality it's everything she would have liked, she insists on strictly selfposting on her thread to the point she uses vocaroos to guarantee her authenticity, she keeps complaining about trolls and samefags, she wants only positive feedback and have a meltdown as the slightest criticism, she wants a private community and stopped linking her stream on twitter to avoid tourists (pinging her community in a discord would be perfect for her here), overall it's just exactly what she would have needed, but she will never make one of course, that would be "betraying" champyons!

>> No.14589844

well shes about to stream, watch the evil bunny girl in action

>> No.14589871

>>14589801
Yeah, it was quickly obvious that a a discord was more suited for her personality, she just couldn't handle the thread at all, tried to take "breaks" from the thread but then she couldn't since twitter was pretty limited in term of interactions. She kept talking about needing jannies to take care of her thread too. She'll forever regret that promise of no discord.

>> No.14589897

>>14589801
it reads like irony but its such a heightened state of self awarness that it hurts

>> No.14589910

>>14589678
One thing that really threw me in for a loop was when she briefly went into a "I won't have any friends" spiel. She probably bounced back and recovered, but I hate to see it and I simply just didn't feel comfortable with the direction things were heading into.

>>14589722
God, I wish (No not really, fucking fortnite cuck).

>> No.14589954

>>14589801
I'm going to guess she has a discord account and is on servers. It's needed to talk with other vtubers. And don't come at me saying sha has Twitter, you know well a lot of vtubers organize on Discord.

>> No.14589997

>>14589801
And that's a good thing

>> No.14590020

>>14589801
Listening to Holobronies is a mistake.
They hate discord, they hate twitch, they want more pandering, they isolate the chuuba and try to groom them.

Look at Nade and Beatani, both REJECTED the Holobrony fans and their demands and now they're doing better than ever because now they get to network and communicate with the wider vtuber community and they actually get to make friends and gain a new viewerbase that isnt born from just watching just Hololive that are more mentally stable.

>> No.14590035

>>14589954
Oh yeah she does have one, and it's been mentioned before she is in permanent collab group DMs. Still pretty different. Most champyons either don't realize, diminish the fact or don't wanna think about it.

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>>14589126
>>14589347
>>14589579

>> No.14590085

>>14590035
And then she prohibits her viewers of doing the same thing.

>> No.14590096

>>14590020
Yeah, I've been impressed by Nade incline and overall mood improvement. Ever since she started finally networking and alternating with twitch, she sounds much happier and the girls who came forward to her are all fitting of her style.
Too bad she's so stubborn about refusing to explain clearly why she remove some early fanbase signs like badgers, but that's the only dark spot in an overall improvement.

>> No.14590099

>>14590035
I read someone in /wvt/ who was in that group say that one of the vtubers in that group told her that her fans are disgusting and she's going to crash and burn and left it.

>> No.14590103

>>14580982
fuck discord
my last oishi with a discord literally did discord exclusive streams

>> No.14590142

>>14590099
Hmm that seems a bit exaggerated from the actual message https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/43813784/#43823380
but more or less yeah

>> No.14590143

I don't have any problem with Kiki but I swear every time I open her stream she's making kissing noises into the mic and she does it for minutes on end, it's pretty weird. I think instead of a group of e-boyfriends she needs a therapist

>> No.14590211

>>14590103
Of course it's not required, it's up to the vtuber, some need it and some don't. But the way anons here thread it like some kind of evil software that's only for "discord trannies" and think every discord community is the same are retarded. Yes there are issues with discord, but it's not half as bad as people make it to be.
And definitely Kiki would have been more suited for a discord than a 4chan thread, given her mental state.

>> No.14590278

>>14581123
thats... not really that bad? compared to membership streams of other chuubas

>> No.14590305

>>14589126
what's wrong with hairy hands? isn't that pretty normal for guys?

>> No.14590444

>>14590305
Sure, just for such thread that condemn so hard anything a fan would do that would make them less "anon" (no stream group, shamed for using the same nickname in other communities or having the same on YT and Twitter etc), people just starting their blogpost with pictures of their hand while everyone clapped just sounded pretty hypocritical

>> No.14590450

>>14590142
God, that sounds awful.

>> No.14590552

>>14590035
A server would be more fitting for her and her fanbase. They can stop pretending they hate it and have their hugbox where they can praise her at any time directly.

>> No.14590559

>>14590444
In English, please

>> No.14590645

>>14590142
Could you tell us what the vtuber said, then?

>> No.14590667

>>14590444
why did you specifically point out the hairiness that's what i don't understand

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>>14590278
idk why that anon took this example as something bad, but she did much more like mentioning her masturbating habits and pissing herself but then it prompted like 500 message of champyons jut posting how they would fuck her in every position and hole without any sign of stopping even though it got stale less than 100 messages in
All the while wanting to be the seiso wife buying a real ring and prompting fans to buy the same so they're all married or something , spending hours just making kissing noise in the mic while the chat all act like her boyfriend at once... idk I guess it's really not for me

>> No.14590721

>>14590020
Hololive uses discord though...

>> No.14590734

>>14590645
I just linked the post in question? Their description just is a bit less drastic than what the anon I replied to said

>> No.14590757

I gave up because it became apparent to me that this all is extremely unhealthy and it's gonna blow up in somebody's face soon. Kiki has made her personality as fake as can be to please people here for the small sliver of attention she gets, and when things don't go well she goes menhera. That along with stomping on "friends" along the way to get more attention has made me drop it. She refuses to also listen to legitimate criticism. Anybody who says something she doesn't wanna hear is an anti.

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>>14590645
You didn't click the link?

>> No.14590782

>>14579085
You don’t already know Kiki? She’s doing alright. She has a small but very dedicated following of /vt/ posters. She is a very based bunny
In general you just have to remember the words of blackrapperman who said
>Don't save her, she don't wanna be saved

>> No.14590814

>>14590757
Pretty good summary, I really had hopes in the first days, the debut was honestly a great surprise. And then whatever happened with her and her thread happened and a week later she was almost someone else.

>> No.14590816

>>14582203
>muh family issues
Not a valid excuse

>> No.14590823

>>14580664
Yeah it is kind of hard for me to browse her thread but her actual streams are good

>> No.14590995

I don't get it, what's wrong with hating niggers and homos?

>> No.14591044

>>14590995
She secretly loves them so it comes as fake.

>> No.14591048

>>14590995
Nothing, but making it your personality is pitiful, and obviously completely fake in this case.

>> No.14591104

>>14590995
Making it your entire personality or leaning on it as your sense of humor is pathetic and frankly pretty played out.

>> No.14591230

>>14590143
Does she still deepthroat the mic?

>> No.14591251

>>14591044
>>14591048
>>14591104
I rather watch someone upfront with what they love/hate (as autistically as they may be about it) than a snake (Hololive Ina for example)

>> No.14591287

>>14591251
God help you, anon. Someday you will be over 18 years old and hopefully then you will see things differently.

>> No.14591354

>>14591287
I'm already 25+ and in a stable relationship but thanks for the good wishes anyways.

>> No.14591360

>>14591251
She's not upfront, it's completely fake. Predebut she was even posting screenshot of her being banned for "racism" on 4chan like some kind of medal. She's just your typical newfag who thinks being racist is the best way to look like a 4channer.

>> No.14591400

>>14591354
Nice, you sounded underage. I listened to those clips and she sure doesn't sound like someone just "keeping it real" is all I'm saying.

>> No.14591421

>>14591400
sounds to me like you have no real friends then

>> No.14591489

>>14591251
Ina is too nice to be a snake

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>>14591400
>>14591048
fake? Anon, Kiki IS /ourchuuba/, she's based like that. She always makes clear how she hates niggers and trannies. Peopl who don't like her belong on Reddit with the rest of the holobrained trannies drooling for untalented corporate whores.
I don't make the rules here. It's 4chan, not tumblr. We run /vt/ as it stands, and you SJW holosimps have no choicebut kneeling.

>> No.14591536

>>14591421
Oh don't worry, I do. I don't see how my friends aren't real for not acting like Kiki does to appease you.

>> No.14591583

>>14579126
Subbed

>> No.14591591

>>14591502
So she needs to adopt the glowie /pol/ political views to be interesting? There's plenty of other vtubers that have those views and don't use it to get attention. She's worse than Athena.

>> No.14591599

>>14579085
The only way to save yourself from saviorfagging is to be yourself saved by a saviorfag.
-Sun Tsu "Art of Niggers"

>> No.14591619

>>14591599
So wise...

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I hope she doesn't end up like Carol...

>> No.14591672

>>14579794
I streamed with 0 viewers anon. I dont do it for money, I do it for fun whenever I have the time to spare. Since things are starting to pick up like before the pandemic, I have less and less time to strime due to work schedule. So yeah, some 2 viewers out there probably doesnt really mind with low view count since they might be doing it for fun

>> No.14591685

>>14591665
please don't bring that manipulative psychopath here

>> No.14591688

>>14591536
Because acting "underage" is something very common among close friends, which happens to be your main staple against her and her fans. You being oblivious to it just means everyone excludes you from it

>> No.14591696

>>14579126
You just described every 2view

>> No.14591698

>>14591685
Fuck you, Carol was based

>> No.14591746

>>14591698
you can be "based" and sitll be a manipulative psychopath. I'd rather not have that topic mix on top of this bait thread that's all

>> No.14591779

>>14587483
>Calling everything bait may work in your thread because people get bored and had in minority, but here it just looks like hard cope and being delusional.
Whatever you say ESL-kun

>> No.14591786

>>14591688
You're doing quite a bit of projection there, over 25 and happily taken anon. Your chuuba sucks and now I know enough about you to say that you probably suck too.

>> No.14591823

>>14591779
I understood it well just switching had for were

>> No.14591901

>>14582658
I Get the lies, but where is the cuck factor here? was she the "i swear i don't and never will speak to any males ever" type or something? like if she was the cyberlive's mod girlfriend it would make sense, but if she was just his friend then?

>> No.14591938

>>14582834
They are hurting society by enabling garbage mindsets and lifestyles, just like sex positivism hurts society by enabling degeneracy

>> No.14591939

>>14591901
more like "i swear i won't have any unfair behaviour like giving preference to one fan, i love all of you equally"

>> No.14591940

>>14589435
No they are all shit and only reddit scum likes "4chan/vt" pandering you are all retarded faggots

>> No.14591970

>>14591940
It really is this simple.

>> No.14591980

>>14591251
>Hololive Ina for example
explain

>> No.14591990

>>14591901
That's definitely how she saw it though given her reaction. She was even posting screenshots of her wiped friendlist on twitter apologizing and saying she wouldn't talk to anyone but champyons.

>> No.14592022

>>14591901
>he actually believes "he's just a friend, anon"

>> No.14592025

I liked her for a while but it became fairly clear after enough time that stuff everyone was calling her sense of humour was actually her genuine opinions. It kind of spoilt her image as someone kind and loving and made me realise she'd be someone I'd probably not want anything to do with IRL.

>> No.14592066

>>14591746
Who is she and how is she a psycho?

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>>14585210
What are you talking about? Reddit is 4chan's younger brother

>> No.14592112

the amount of tears my beautiful, cute wife has produced is staggering. So much salt and anger over a loving and happy relationship.

anons you could find love too if you weren't so busy baiting happy couples.

>> No.14592124

>>14586917
>Date
>Falling in love with chat
What the actual fuck is this level?

>> No.14592158

>>14591786
nope, zero projection since all came from your own posts, not to mention you seem to be getting very defensive about it

>> No.14592172

>>14587060
See, i agree that Kuki is a liar, but you went full retard and took it to the other extreme, so now i think you are a faggot as well

>> No.14592208

>>14591688
She is not your close friend you retard that is the point, you know fuck all about her and she knows fuck all about you

>> No.14592214

What will happen if /vt/ gets bored of her?

>> No.14592249

>>14592158
I have two great friends. This is getting pretty gay.

>> No.14592275

>>14592124
Looks like we might have a real menhera here. Hopefully she fixes whatever her problem is before it causes her hardship she can't overcome.

>> No.14592376

>>14586917
That doesn't sound healthy for anyone involved.

>> No.14592384

>>14592214
probably pull a nyanners

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14592544

She's giving me kisses now!

>> No.14592573

>>14592208
Never said I did just >>14591251

>> No.14592608

>>14592544
In your dreams maybe

>> No.14592652

>>14592573
Sure, but then you said >>14591688

>> No.14592678

>>14592652
yes because you implied acting underage was a bad thing, I fail to see your logic here

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>>14592678
Acting underage isn't a bad thing?

>> No.14592752

>>14592718
Nope, short bursts of juvenile joy are pretty healthy

>> No.14592869

>>14592752
I agree, but the point I was really trying to make here is that the parasocial relationship between Kiki and her chat doesn't seem healthy and that her "based" routine is just that, a routine for the sake of the parasocial relationship. What I'm trying to say is that I disagree with your insistence that she's saying what she's really thinking, anon. I pegged you as underage because that seems like a very naive impression to have of her. And then you sperged out and let me know you have a gf and insisted that I have no friends.

>> No.14592932

>Koopa
>secret discord
>have sex with fans
>refused to acknowledge her faults
>moved to twitch after she can't pull /here/ viewers anymore

>Beatani
>make discord when she said she won't
>use twitch when she said she won't
>have sex with her coworker

>Nadeshiko
>delete all her streams and videos when she was a PNGtuber
>uses discord when she says she won't
>uses twitch when she says she won't
>will move to twitch full time and abandon her youtube fanbase
>don't even have any fanbase "badger" emotes for her fans that followed her to twitch

>Kiki
>autist
>have a boyfriend when she says she doesn't
>use discord when she says she won't
>is in contact with lots of males and message each other daily
>denies everything and double down on gfe so she won't lose her fans

Damn... /here/chuubas are fucking mental.

>> No.14593005

>>14592932
You got pretty much everyone wrong, schizo.

>> No.14593024

>>14592932
> Koopa
> have sex with fans
I'm not seeing the mental. If I had a fanbase, I'd be fucking them on the regular. My house would smell like sweat and parental disappointment.

>Beatani / Nadeshiko / Kiki
> Discord when she says she won't
Why do /here/chuubas do this? Does /vt/ really care if someone uses Discord? That's some schizo shit.

>> No.14593046

kek we really need IDs in /vt/ this is the worst thread yet

>> No.14593068

>>14593046
BTFO

>> No.14593142

>>14592869
>And then you sperged out and let me know you have a gf and insisted that I have no friends.
I mentioned my gf because I fast read your post, I'll give you that. I mentioned you having no friends because of your total aversion to a very common trait amongst friends, to which you strangely replied with >>14591786

>> No.14593165

>>14592932
w-we still have pippa, right?

>> No.14593183

>>14593165
anon...

>> No.14593192

>>14593024
>Does /vt/ really care if someone uses Discord?
90% of the problem that happens within a community is because of discord. Literally almost all of it.

>> No.14593231

>>14593165
An-non... Pippa is even worse. I guess we have Lumi... kind of...

>> No.14593266

I remember this bich. Kept shilling herself before she even had a live2d and proclaimed she would be le ebin 4chan memetuber. Many told her she was a fucking retard for trying to GFE a bunch of lonely neckbeards that would through shit fits if she so much as liked a twitter post that mentioned another male. I watched one stream and it was awful, looked in the thread and it was filled with the lowest of the low GFE schizos. This is the fanbase she wanted, now she has to lay in the cum stained bed.

>> No.14593350

>>14591251
Elaborate on the Ina bit or it will be just a rrat

>> No.14593356

>>14592932
>Koopa has sex with fans
HOW DO I GET IN ON THIS

>> No.14593403

>>14593142
Well, I bristled at that because I didn't think I was pointing out a common trait among friends but something I found troublesome about the relationship between a streamer and her audience. I wasn't taking issue with her being based or whatever, just with how obvious it is that she is pandering to /vt/ to an unhealthy degree. I didn't expect that would come across too strangely; we're on 4chan right now.

>> No.14593418

>>14593356
You live in the US? Become a vtuber and DM her.

>> No.14593541

>>14593356
It's a lie. She most likely ended up in a relationship with another vtuber she got to know. After months of anons saying "Koopa needs a husband to take care of her before she dies...".

>> No.14593572

>>14592932
What? 2/3rd of this is simply made up
I guess tourists will still gobble that up but still, at least make an effort

>> No.14593604

>>14593192
When it happens it's precisely because of the baseless hate it get and thus divide it produces

>> No.14593697

>>14593572
>2/3rd of this is simply made up
Proof?

>> No.14593702

>>14593024
>>14592932
Literally only kiki promised not to make a discord, not the others. Plus making a discord server and using discord for collabs and stuff is 2 separate things.
Not that it's a sin to use it anyway but lease get your facts right at least.

>> No.14593783

>>14593604
The problems happen even before the hate 4chan hate dumbass. I remember some anons in /vg/ made discord. It was a shitshow.

>> No.14593953

>>14593783
I noiticed another shitshow happening in /vm/ where some anons from the roblox thread made a discord server and it turned into complete chaos.

>> No.14594007

>>14593604
This is false. It's a lot more complicated than that, it's not discord or the hate for it that causes problem but rather the way the community gets stratified.
Option A: There is heavy gatekeeping on who gets to be in the "inner circle" and everyone else just gets access to some basic channels, lots of people are going to feel left out when they find out the "inner circle" even exists and they aren't part of it.
Option B: The server is completely public without gatekeeping and everyone gets to join. Then it gets overrun with retards while people who are made mods to keep the retards in check are seen as someone getting special treatment.

Either way you lose and there's really no middle ground. You can't run a discord server being a solo moderator unless you literally have like 10 people in it.

>> No.14594029

>>14593953
But of course, it's a tool, it an be shit like it can be good it depends on who manages it and who uses it. Even for indies who have viewers here like Lumi or Africat or Lilyhops or Nina etc. their discord is perfectly fine and not anything like anons like to imply about discords.

>> No.14594239

>>14591251
>calling Ina a snake
You guys are still upset about that one off-hand comment she made? Honestly so pathetic lmao

>> No.14594685

>>14593572
Enough for me, I'll never watch them now.

>> No.14595179

>>14594239
off-hand sarcastic comments are often a small window into what you actually think

>> No.14596658

>>14592932
>fanbase emotes
the fact this is included with
>fucked a fan
in the same list is just hilarious

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