/#/ - Numbers thread

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>>14398737
Previously on numbers

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General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

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Chloe doubters, have you kneeled?

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"You're overdoing it"
- Orca manager

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so were back to numberfaging Chloe? La+ had a short run

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Kneel

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>>14405995

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>>14406033
100k+ all over. Orca the true numbers waifu.

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Sakamata Chloe
how does someone at such a young age develop such sociopathic drive for money?
when i was her age the only thing I was thinking about were girls and parties at college.
she is a complete psycho I'll tell you that much.

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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>89,652: Toya (Nijisanji)
>36,373: Chloe (Hololive)
>35,525: Iroha (Hololive)
>32,268: Fubuki (Hololive)
>27,065: Ayame (Hololive)
>26,216: Fubuki (Hololive)
>25,403: Pekora (Hololive)
>25,352: Calli (Hololive)
>23,804: Laplus (Hololive)
>22,497: Laplus (Hololive)
>22,334: Lui (Hololive)
>19,402: Kanata (Hololive)
>18,560: Rushia (Hololive)
>17,831: Met (774 Inc.)
>17,626: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>17,354: Flare (Hololive)
>15,653: Nene (Hololive)
>14,110: Shibuya Hal (merise)
>13,448: Mumei (Hololive)
>13,271: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>12,319: Mio (Hololive)
>12,300: Furen (Nijisanji)
>12,105: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,988: Lui (Hololive)
>10,202: Watame (Hololive)

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Alright, Kiara Outfit predictions!
For reference, this was her 1st outfit numbers
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/jQR_eA8n_Fo
71k Peak, but an hour later in burger hours due to daylight savings time.
IMO, due to the shifted hours, the weaker streaming month (winter months are slower for EN on average) and the fact that its the second outfit, I'm going to guess 45-50k peak.

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>>14406161
40k peak is my guess.

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IOFI NO!!
https://twitter.com/airaniiofifteen/status/1469245848882057218

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Can't wait for the Playboard daily upd--
>December 2021 SC rankings
...the NOOOMBING cometh...

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>>14406161
She'll still gold.

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>>14406161
If she can hit 50k she should count that as a win.

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>>14406161
I'm going 60k
I believe in the power of chicken.

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>>14406192
Ame's going a few hours after her so no, she will not

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>>14406161
32k
that silhouette isnt doing her much favors

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>>14406191
This is a minor yab that could turn big...

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>>14406191
IOFI YES

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>>14406223
Yea, even with all of her self-sabotage, Ame's outfit should still best Kiara's.

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>>14406235
Kek, depending on how you look at it yes

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>>14406235
Nah it's funny. Holos always dogwhistle various Niji controversies.

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>>14406235
It's ID for one, and also Iofi could profess ignorance as to the actual reason it's trending, uh, if she did this by mistake. Now go make a thread on this if you're so inclined.

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>>14406233
Why, did people figure out from the silhouette that it was gonna be Kiara?

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>>14406191
>>14406235
>This is a minor yab that could turn big...
That was not even the big part, the real big part (and numbers related) is that, in that site

>Nijisanji R18 ASMR goes 4400 yen for a 30 min or less recording
>Patra ASMR (easily the top of the market in that area right now, roommates notwithstanding) sells her for 1400 yen for a 10 hours recording

More than telling people to stop selling niji R18 in that site (which is not a big deal, they seem to be able to sell elsewhere) is the fact it called attention to this

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>>14406098
>be poor
>live in a society that is very appearance conscious
>live with constant the pressure to fit in and succeed from a young age
I don't know either, really...

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>The revel will be 3 AM where I live
Should I take a nap, or tank through this ...

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>>14406253
Ame still has a much higher base popularity than Kiara and she's going at 10 PM instead of 4 PM, much better audience. I wouldn't be surprised if Ame can still hit 70-80k.

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>>14406192
Has Kiara won gold even once?

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>>14406315
anon...
https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1468068750993747968/photo/1

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>>14406333
Patra is a volume streamer, she does a ton of ASMR, and doesn't have any brand name bonus since she's basically carrying her company. Discounting the product to move more units.

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>>14406333
Those prices are downright jewish, oy vey. It'd be justified if it was ear licking.

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I'll stick by my post in the previous thread:
Her over/under is 50k, if she fails then it will be bad. This isn't Sana we're talking about. Let's not even think of her getting anywhere near Mori levels of CCV, since even SHE is down from her previous record.

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>>14406191
>>14406235
Naw, Nijifans don't make mountains out of molehills and conveniently forget that Iofi has no idea what if happening. It's a nothing burger.

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>>14406358
Take a short nap (25 min or 1 hour 30 min).
>>14406366
Agreed, though as a correction it's 9pm EST not 10pm EST. I'll lowball it, the weaker season has and it being the 2nd outfit has me not so optimistic, going to just take what the peaks were last time and lop off 30-40%, though I'm certain vod views will still be solid enough.

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>>14406449
i mean in all honesty, did people really expected the outfit CCV numbers to be the same as the last time? because at the time they debuted them during the golden week

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>>14406430
Anon, if you read the complaint it is not just about being 30 min or Patra being hours.
It is about being low quality 30 min recording vs high quality hours long recording.

If you were talking "top shelf" from Niji vs. "bargain bin" from Patra what you said would have made sense.
But it is the other way around

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>>14406449
Getting Mori levels would mean getting more than her last outfit, which is basically impossible. Ina's probably the only one that can get more than her last outfit, and *only* if she moves it back to 8-10 PM EST, and even then it would not be a sure thing.

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Kiara 60k let's gooooooooo

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>>14406488
That's my point. Kiara has always ranked the lowest in CCV, and thinking that she will be able to keep up with any of the members with bigger CCV is downright stupid.

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>>14405620
I would be more worried about the fact that Kiara’s timeslot is horrific for burgers more so than the fact that it’s bad for Asia. Even if she prolongs the reveal for a full 2 hours, the East Coast is the only part of the US that will at that point finally be in a somewhat decent position to watch it (6:00PM). Americans in the Central US will have just started to clock out from work, and you can forget having the Western US tune in entirely. Europe and South America are really gonna have to do the heavy lifting here for Kiara to get any sort of respectable numbers.

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>>14406333
I can't imagine bully Panda or that chuuni fuckstick to be any good at it. I bet the Nijis who are good at ASMR probably were either not offered it or just stayed clear of it.

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>>14406488
The golden week lasted till 5/5 JST, so I guess for EN only Kiara and Calli tasted the luxury for that.

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>>14406430
Patra is one of the queens of ASMR and has a very expensive set up. Most other vtubers are mostly amateurs.
Off ASMR packs alone she’s made at least a million.

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>>14406287
>>14406333
to be fair DLsite is also holding a sale right now and that's part of why the tag is trending.

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>>14406191
Nijibros!!
She can't beat you, but she can hurt you

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>>14405916
holoX were all around 1 hour
Fauna, Sana and Mumei went around 1:30 while Baelz was 1:45 and Kronii 2:00
Myth had Ame at 1 hour, Gura at 1:15, Mori 1:20, Kiara at 1:30 (Ina didn't have an official monetization stream but played a game for 2 hours as her first SC stream)
Gen 5's monetizations were all messed up thanks to their retarded manager at the time, only Polka had a real one and that went for a full 6 hours
Anything earlier than that is too much of a pain to find out because of the holocaust
Obviously Gen 6's manager seems to be doing a great job but I don't understand the point of this apparent 1 hour hard limit for monetization when other recent debuts went longer than that and they were still being drowned in money by the end of the stream

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>>14406191
I thought ID was unity land where your brand doesnt matter.

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>>14406161
50k at best for her sanity. If not, expect countless clips about her fucking crying because of low numbers.

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>>14406333
>that price defference
Jesus Christ...

Wait... what would you price Holos at if they did try to sell their shit? High quality and all?

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>>14406685
Rokkisei Manager seems to be very strict.

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>>14406685
The manager has pity for the rest of them

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>>14406714
>what would you price Holos at if they did try to sell their shit?
kek, why sell the cow if you can sell the milk?

The ASMR specialists from Hololive get membership and donations in their roommate accounts

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>>14406190
Chloe is going to win the month, I'll tell you that right now. I'll start doing running totals for December after this week's chart comes out and it's going to be a huge month all round but there's no point arguing who will win because it's already decided.

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>>14406702
> countless clips about her fucking crying because of low numbers.
I can only get so erect!

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>>14406837
I’m not sure how they do their viewer thing but I’ve seen Noel’s NND viewership (mind you this is paid members only) go up to the 20k range while live.

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https://youtu.be/IzREt2t4HBI
hal numberfagging, also nip shitshow in the comment section

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>>14406877
I followed Noel's roommate before Hololive and holy shit has it grown.

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>>14406843
I still want Pekora to win at least one day though
Going from one of her strongest month to completely being mogged by a new gen the following month. I would feel bad too

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>>14406685
EN don't typically have time restrictions on anything, but there's only so much content you make make out of getting monetized.

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>>14406714
YT is too dangerous for some ASMRist like Noel, they may get banned.
They will give you a teaser or experience and guide you to their roommate account on NicoNico.

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>>14406933
People say Noel doesn't need Hololive and they're right but it's stupid to think there isn't any backflow.

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>>14406933
It’s why I think people who say they are thinking of quitting Hololive are retarded. Their roommates got a HUGE increase in memberships BECAUSE they’re in Hololive.

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>>14406988
Yeah there’s no reason to leave Hololive either. They still pay you for being there ya know

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>>14406937
Long term this will help Pekora. New fans means new Pekora fans. In median peak CCV she is still on top for the month and the new bloods' star will only fall.

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>>14406884
Kek

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>>14406967
There's definitely backflow on that account. She was popular, but she became a beast after joining Hololive. Her boom in numbers came after Holo, which is kinda funny, since once she reached 300k or so, that's when the account became active again or around that time.

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>>14407048
Damn I guess in a way that’s mean she stronger than your average Holo then

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>>14406884
Not going to sift through dozens of moonrune comments, qrd on their reaction?

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>>14407048
I guess the narrative that Noel just likes having friends is untrue, she benefits in may ways.

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>>14406529
Probably this, but Ame could surprise.

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>>14407098
I find Noel very interesting. At least, her roommate activities, since she's benefited a lot from her Holo status. Her second channel boomed to 100k and gathered a lot of views, because of her success.

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>>14407048
Even Sen is still getting backflow. It's almost 100% for active roommate to grow with Hololive.

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>>14407170
Every Holo benefit from being in there

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>>14407170
Hell, Matsuri gets 7-10k viewership when she streams on her other YouTube.
Anyone with an active roommate gets a buff.

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>>14407192
Sankisei seem pretty comfy with their life now honestly. They are all entering the “enjoying life and streaming” phase

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>>14406161
I’m gonna take the under on every else’s predictions here and say only 32k. I think people are wildly underestimating how much the timeslot is gonna hurt her. I don’t trust yuros to carry a primetime nearly as much as I trust nips, SEAs, and burgers.

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>>14407220
Maybe S3NZ@W@ should come back. She'd get a shitton of views and it'd be a nice little reminder to her fans she's still somewhere.

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>>14407200
Pretty much. She still uses Niconico also for some "yabai" asmr. I always wondered why she came back, though - I think perhaps the sudden jump in subs and viewers seemed too good to ignore or let it die?

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>>14407244
>trusting SEA

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>>14407258
Senzawa hated her fanbase though, I doubt that she will come back.

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>>14406191
>>14406235
Wait QRD me on this?

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>>14407240
Sankisei is like the Generations of Miracles. I'm not surprised they've reached that well-earned status.

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>>14407273
It's not bad to have multiple revenue sources and her main employer doesn't care. It's not like she doesn't have a patreon for very soft lewds.

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>>14407240
Hololive becomes a social club after being there for a while it seems.

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>>14407258
the reason she bailed on s*nzawa is because she never had any path to monetizing

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>>14407308
>Sen hates her fans
>Gura hates her fans
THEY ARE
>>14407240
I'd say Flare still has a chip on her shoulder but she does make bank and seems to be inclining in views but not subs.

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>>14407134
just the typical shitshow of niji actually being bigger in japan, only gaijins watch holos, and a whole lot of hal and chronowa dick-sucking. which is to be expected since its a hal clip channel

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>>14407342
Yeh, her avatar is already a doujin.

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>>14407324
I agree. I just find it funny that some of the girls nuke their channels, then there's some that actually farm their PLs to increment their revenue. The latter is really smart.

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>>14407316
>Niji and DLsite do a collab
>Since there will be official Niji goods available, Niji wants unofficial porn etc. temporarily removed so they don't confuse buyers
>Proceeds to send cease-and-desist letters to the artists, doesn't make an official announcement (until too late?)
>Artists shit their pants on Twitter after receiving the letters, some go full damage control mode and announce they will delete all their Niji stuff on every site, rumours start spreading, shitposters and dramaniggers pick the story up and amplify it

and also >>14406333

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Still don't get why EN doesn't cultivate their own primetime. I get that they live in different timezones, but can't they just focus on one primetime and just do all the events at that time? Coco had a good one going for 11-12pm jst before with 40k+ guaranteed viewers for meme review or maybe 9am jst where it's like 8pm in New York, Gura's timeslot. Just have all the ENs do outfit reveals, announcements & events at that time. No need to experiment all that much. Schedule streams before the event as a waiting room and after to funnel viewers.

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>>14406884
He's copying Mirai Akari, which did something very similar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HolOAX5Uy1Q&t=173

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>>14407021
You can literally stream 2-3/month and do some collabs with your friends, maybe play Uno or Mario Cart for a few hours now and then, and makes six figures, while getting free marketing for your roommate activities. Cover sold like 10K Coco plushies after she graduated, there is literally no good reason to graduate. It's free money and marketing. In other words Aloe you fucking idiot what are you doing...

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>>14407320
I would argue that Pekora are having the happiest life in Hololive right now
>Stable income
>Loyal fans
>Play with her cat and enjoy playing games on stream everyday
>Is now a senpai to at least 3 generations
>No drama, no mental illness, no injury that will affect her life in any way
>Seem to pick up dance lesson as a hobby now

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>>14407304
Sea does have the most passionate fans outside of japan.
It just also has the most schizo fans, kinda like Japan.

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>>14407324
Also, I wanted to add that she's completely change her character look too. She went from looking normal, then slightly anime like, then back to a more "normal" brunette but clear eye character.

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>>14407368
I'm seeing more lukewarm comments and little seething. I did see someone seethe about the box push and how most holos earned nothing and get numbers because they have the word hololive in their channel.

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>>14407360
>d say Flare still has a chip on her shoulder but she does make bank
She's 13th globally, all time for superchats.

You'd never think that based on how little people talk about her here. But she has an extremely dedicated fanbase.

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>>14407368
>just the typical shitshow of niji actually being bigger in japan, only gaijins watch holos
nijiniggers really are the same across the pond

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>>14406937
Seems tough for Pekora, I always think that Pekora have better shot at getting the total gold record in months where everyone have less to no buffs and dry content game. She wins more by consistency than making huge splashes.
Her only shot this month is probably the outfit reveal which really looks like it's going to be delayed again at this rate because of the lack of news.

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>>14407416
>I get that they live in different timezones
I don't, that's dumb as fuck, not the fact that they live in different timezones (that's smart) but the fact their personal convenience is put ahead of the convenience of their audience.

As I said the other day: a streamer streaming in a poor hour for their audience but that is good for them is as dumb as a restaurant owner closing for lunch and dinner so their staff can have their meals in a convenient time for themselves.

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>>14407368
>Nijisanji
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdWZKb659K0

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>>14407449
check the replies to comments thats where most of the shit happens

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>>14407433
I actually wonder if the kouhais ever ask their senpais for advices, even for mundane stuffs like what game to stream or what hour to stream

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>>14407435
Out of the Sankisei, Peko is pretty much set. She has no reason to go and her income is extremely comfortable. I hope they are investing some of their revenue.

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>>14407482
>but the fact their personal convenience is put ahead of the convenience of their audience
On the other hand, European timezones would be without an EN streamer if that were the case. While EUR donations are arguably still one of the smaller groups, they do exist.

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>>14407476
Yeah seem tough for her this month. Though I think she don’t mind stepping back for one month, it does get boring seeing only her on the top

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>>14407342
S*n was also a very dark part of her life. I don't blame her for not wanting to go back.

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>>14407476
Most of her streams are solo or small collab( up to 4) games, which make her a high floor but mid high ceiling.

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>>14406884
One nip there said it very well
>可愛いは言語の壁を越えていくけど、笑いはそうはいかない
"Cuteness crosses the language barrier, humor doesn't."

He may have nailed the difference between being a male and a female vtuber right with this sentence

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>>14407525
Oh yeah, that is where the seething is. I'm seeing more seething about hololive's brand power than anything though. Like people unironically thinking hololive hire professionals instead of loser NEETs.

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>>14407540
I still remember she just go out and buy her whole Pokémon team plushies the other day just because she can

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>>14407482
That's the thing, why don't they schedule a stream after an event? If there's an already cultivated timeslot like Pekora's timeslot, they'll get better numbers in the long run especially those that stream before and after that timeslot. Take this pic as an example. Ame's outfit reveal is at 10AM, and there's already a bunch of people lining up to catch the funnel. What bout Kiara and Ina? There's no one scheduling a stream around them meaning those viewers that stayed for the event stream wouldn't have a place to go chill. Like, is it really hard for Ina and Kiara to go 3 hours later than their timeslot?

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>>14407611
its because of the clip channel being full of fpsfags which is basically niji territory. when you compare the comment section to neutral territory such as >>14407421 its completely different

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>>14407608
Spot on
That's why the design and the voice dictates how well a vtuber will do, or how nips loved Gura despite not knowing English

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>>14407551
>On the other hand, European timezones would be without an EN streamer if that were the case.
If their audience is predominantly North American, that's what would have to happen.

There isn't any reason for HoloEN to fail to establish a "regularly scheduled primetime" like JP does and their personal convenience (like living in another timezone) is definitely not a valid reason.

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>>14407611
There’s a reason why the brand is important and Hololive did a great job as selling themselves as the “Premium” brand in vtubing wher Nijisanji watered it down with the 100+ vtubers who are basically 3 views

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>>14407416
>>14407482
Many of them don't do streaming full time and often share that time with actual obligations outside of Hololive itself. For them, they have no choice, they either do it when they can or they will interfere with whatever they got going on in their life at the time. Compounding to this is Cover, who doesn't really guarantee a permanent paycheck that is high enough to make them want to, at the very least, consider streaming as a full time career, nor do they have a management structure that is rigid enough to make them want to stick to a regular schedule that will ensure that they will earn a pretty penny nor flexible enough to properly make up for the personal flaws of the talent.

Cover has good talent scouts, but they have poor talent managers in general.

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>>14405995
everyday from now on

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>>14407679
Ina's roommate job is mostly at night or even late night for NA

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>>14407747
*poor EN talent managers
fixed that for you, the JPs have been showering in work since the second half of this year

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After reading this thread for months I got the conclusion that this thread only has hololive fans who falseflag as nijisanji fans whenever they win. No one in here watch nijisanji but read 5ch comments and other stuff, same for other non-holo jp agencies. It's why there's this team hololive every day against the big bad nijisanji, same shit for sony x microsoft but even more sad and pathetic to see considering you don't need to spend money to watch.

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>>14407747
>Many of them don't do streaming full time and often share that time with actual obligations outside of Hololive itself
That would be an excuse if the two most regular ones since EN were not
>ina
>Calli
>IRyS

A full time illustrator booked from today to the heat death of the universe, a full time singer releasing one original song per month since her debut plus countless covers and a VSinger that wouldn't even need to stream if she didn't wnat to.

Arguably the three ENs with the busiest "second career" right now are the three putting the most hours

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is kfp just hanging out in Kiara's pre-chat? this seems like an unusually high number for an hour and a half away

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>>14407707
I guess that's why they just assume Hololivers are dolled up professional actors and voice actors instead of out of shape shutins with mental health issues.

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>>14407841
thanks for your hot take, you can fuck off now

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>>14406109
>17,831: Met (774 Inc.)
So, it's free part of a concert, okay, but still how? I don't recall ever seeing anyone from 774 that is not Patra or Haneru reach this high, so I have to assume there was something more at work here. Even the HoneyStrap (or was it the entire inc?) concert featuring literally everyone got something like 2-3k if memory serves.

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>>14407841
that took you months to realize?

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>>14407737
That's a bizarre argument considering how they already had over 100 members when they were the most popular. It's not like they reached 100 in 2021, they reached 100 in 2019 already on jp alone.
Also, one time or another hololive will reach 100 and even more. THere's already people complaining about it becoming like nijisanji, and with more vtubers, more people will say that.

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>>14407866
pretty much, they are using the chat as a chatroom right now
Kiara should really get a free chat going but the /clg/ harpies would probably ruin that

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>>14407841
>After reading this thread for months I got the conclusion
No you didn't, if you have done you would have noticed people here praise big numbers and shit on small numbers for the most part, and also praise good management moves that would bring big numbers and shit on bad management moves that would tank numbers.

It just so happen that Niji is in a bad streak since Koshien so it looks like they're the redheaded stepchild but it is a phase.

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>>14407747
>don't do streaming full time
>their paychecks already exceeds what a normal job can do
It's not a valid reason for an above average paying job like being in Hololive where you only need to stream 3 or more times in a week. If I was the manager, I'd have them cultivate a "primetime" timeslot and stream around it for long term benefits. What they need to do as per their job is to set aside irl stuff for that time. If they can't, just schedule it to another day, but don't ever leave that timeslot. They're getting paid by the hundreds streaming for a few hours where other people are working 8+ hours for $15/hour.

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>>14407881
>>14407899
no i just said it for the first time. was thinking about it but never said before :)))))

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>>14407894
I know there is no relation but Met is one of the guests for Matsuri live so I can imagine she's really hot these days

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>>14407608
bullshit
explain niji females then

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>>14407948
>explain niji females then
For fuck sake, their cuteness absolutely crossed the language barrier, more than once and too with Hana Macchia and Shizuka Rin, then Lulu and Hoshikawa as well

They didn't seize the opportunity, that's another thing

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>>14407858
Sana puts in hours if you ignore that massive menhera attack. She's a pro too. Her break feels more like an anomaly than a trend.

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>>14407909
nijisanji's popularity was never because of the brand though, even back during their heyday they still had 2 and 3 views clogging up the roster.

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>>14407866
That’s pretty normal for her fanbase. Kiara chats with them too.
They were watching the game awards with her in pre-chat yesterday.

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Oh yeah to the people who've watched how is Chloe and Laplus games streaming ability so far?
Does it have enough legs to carry them in dry days in future?

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>>14407977
>Sana puts in hours if you ignore that massive menhera attack.
Well, I'm filthy rich if you ignore the massive debts I accrued

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>>14407917
Uh anon, I have been reading those threads and there's a clear difference in behavior with hololive and nijisanji. It's very clear that the absolute majority in here don't watch nijisanji. There's no impartiality at all and I don't know why you guys don't admit it. I don't even need to go to this thread because the entire board makes it clear.
>>14407948
You might as well say that for literally every single female non-hololive vtuber. Noah, Uruha, Beni, how many popular female jp vtuber is known in here as holo?

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>>14408005
Laplus is a natural honestly, her talking skills are Marine level, I haven't watched Chloe at all so can't talk about her

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>>14408025
I watch niji, Nui is good and Toko doesn't stream all that much. Plus, who cares about their ENs or other JPs anyway.

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>>14407979
No, they still have some brand power. Not as much as hololive but they do. Edengumi getting 100k in less than a month was brand power, not some talent. Same for many of their vtubers that got initial boost. It's the same with hololive but in a smaller scale. Heck, agencies in general are like that, even the smaller ones like vspo or 774.

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>>14407976
no
you dont get the point
hololive girls didnt become popular because they are cute but because they are better streamers and more charismatic entertainers

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>>14408005
laplus seems kinda mid at valorant, like better than most women but not good enough to get anyone to watch her solely for gameplay

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>>14408025
>It's very clear that the absolute majority in here don't watch nijisanji.
That is generally true for this thread, board, site and hemisphere (on the assumption you live west of Volvograd)

>There's no impartiality at all
Wut? There is no such thing, everybody have their biases but ON THE AGGREGATE this thread will praise big numbers and shit on small numbers.

Then there is the bias. There is the enschizo that will NEVER admit anything good from HoloEN, Gen5Schizo likewise, marineschizo, faunaschizo and every single variation of people shitting on people they hate or propping up people they like.

What makes this thread different is that people unanimously praise big numbers and shit on people trying to make small numbers look big or big numbers look small.

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>>14407866
Kiara is known for being a regular in her own pre-chat, basically it's a way to interact with your oshi without spending money on a SC

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>>14407977
>>14408020
You know, I'm pretty sure the reason why she took such a long break was because she had to travel back home to bury her dog and the month's long break was to deal with Australia's assinine quarantine regulations, not because she had a month long mental breakdown.

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>>14408118
>gameplay
>valorant

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>>14408105
>hololive girls didnt become popular because they are cute but because they are better streamers and more charismatic entertainers
It seems that it is you that failed to see the point: it is harder for a streamer like Kuzuha to make inroads in the western market than it was for (let's say) Korone, is exactly because
>cute doggo noises
is easy to sell in the west than
>funny game banter

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>>14407416
>>14407482
>I get that they live in different timezones
then you dont get it if you cant understand that

>>14407841
>months
i would say is a recent development that came from tourist from both nijien, council and holox debuts.
People now are just playing at being a managers rather than analyze numbers and the reason from them. i think it will subside in the next month as numbers go back to normal looking at the current floors the holos have right now with their SC readings.

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>>14408145
you can still stream with a laptop in the hotel while quarantine to pass the time. Demanding games would be out, but a simple zatsu would've sufficed.

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>>14408161
it doesnt matter how funny or talented a male vtuber is because it's weird for a guy to stream as an anime character and not as himself.
It makes sense for a woman to do it because of how biology works, it allows us to judge them properly

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>>14408205
>>14408145
I think there’s more happening behind the scene with Sana. I actually believe it’s the combination of all the rrat people came up with here

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>>14408178
The influx of tourist made this thread impossible to have any real discussion or analysis for most of the day. There’s only a 3-4 hour period where most of the schizos are busy.

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>>14408161
we are talking about females
holo vs niji
if what your saying were true nijisanji girls should be just as popular but they aren't whihc prooves it has nothing to do with selling cuteness but with being a charismatic streamer

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>>14408205
You need to buy a laptop and all that set up.
Ame had asimialt situation but she had like weeks to rpepare for it. And had to do it with er phone data.

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>>14408205
>you can still stream with a laptop in the hotel while quarantine to pass the time
Anon, it's Australia. No you fucking can't.

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if you really think no holo ever improves at singing go watch some rin*o uta's
the personality has not changed at all but woof she was bad at singing

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>>14407440
Passion doesn’t translate to numbers. If anything, it kind of inhibits SEA from being a good primetime because most of them are passionate enough to oshi JPs or ENs instead of IDs and will tune in to watch them regardless of what time they’re on. Streams that don’t primarily target either JP or NA have never proven to be very reliable for pumping numbers.

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>>14408161
kuzuha is a girl?

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>>14408254
i agree. the console war level of faggotry just make it hard to discuss the reason of numbers.

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>>14408105
That's false. They became popular because of azur lane collab and then chink clippers doing the job to popularize them in the west in 2019-2020. After that it was cover plus clippers doing it.

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>>14407808
>but HoloJPs
This hasn't been the case at all. Remember that a good number of them have complained about their managers and some even went so far as to having them replaced. That they are swamped in work seems to come in spite of how good their managers are, but it does seem like they're doing much better now that Hololive has turned into a cultural phenomenon.

>>14407858
Anon, look at the people you mentioned:
>a workaholic
>a workaholic in Japan
>a workaholic in Japan who also happens to be Japanese
They were never not going to take advantage of the opportunity given to them to make the most money they could make streaming if they could get away with it.

What about the others that do have things going on off of Hololive that can't realign their lives around it?

>>14407924
Unfortunately, they don't seem to have faith in Hololive's staying power enough to keep them fed, otherwise they would have done so already. They want to make sure that they do have an out in the event that things go south and they find themselves out of a job. There's nothing that can be done about that.

But like I said, that's more management's fault than the talent's itself. They need to be told "we need constant streams around this time slot so please pick an hour to stream and do so daily if you can, and if you can't join up with others to share that time", but management doesn't seem to do that even though I am sure the expect them to do so. So clearly that's on them for not understand what the underlying problems are for the western market.

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>>14408406
>unironically uses azur lane and chink clippers as argument
kill yourself threadreader

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>>14408324
Kind of.

If you notice his numbers reclined ever since that stream where he larped as a girl. Manjisanji fans hate females so much that even pretending to be one will make them stop watching you.

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>>14408256
Hololive happened to have very capable people like Korone and FBK with the right temperament and the holo box is true no matter how you slice it. Being cute got tons of female vtubers in the door, the holo box kept many to just hololive.

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>>14408256
They still were able to gather fans in the west, more than other female from other corpos, just not as big as hololive got, because hololive as a brand got big due to chink clippers in the west, like hololive moments. And tbf, nijisanji is much more harder because many members speak dialects, have content that are very japanese, it's hard to translate and many stuff that hololive in general doesn't have.

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>>14408269
It must be good enough to stream

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Kiara new outfit :
1 hr piror : 3808

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>>14408513
is this revisionist shit conjured up in niji generals?

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>>14408454
it's literally how hololive began to get more popularity in the west. I was there and saw it happening with my own eyes. You can't deny that.I'm not even saying this negatively.

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>>14408555
>it's literally
nope
>I was there and saw it happening with my own eyes.
clearly not

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Mori had around 6k in waiting room at this point, chicken is sitting at 3.8k.
Also Kiara is behind Ame in likes under the VOD.
My guess is 45k.

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>>14408546
explain to me how it's revisionist when I saw this happening in 2019 and how that's what many clippers that did both holo and niji jp told their public

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>>14408526
What was Mori's number during the same time?

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>>14408592
I have a near perfect ability to know when someone is lying, even through text.
Try it on someone else.

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>>14408607
Around 6k I think

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>>14408588
ok then explain to me your version of how hololive gained popularity in 2019 in the west. Don't say coco because before coco even existed, hololive as already very popular in clips.

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>>14408520
Anon Ame could barely get her stream functional when she was traveling and that was in america. What makes you think Sana would somehow do better in Australia, land of the 56kbp is considered acceptable?

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>>14408629
40-60k is a good estimate then.

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>>14408406
>>14408513
can you stop samefagging with shitposts?
the truth is hololive became big because of charismatic leaders such as fubuki, aqua, pekora, marine, coco.
nijisanji girls didnt have someone like that.
it's the combination of many factors that made hololive popular but they all boil down to charisma and consistency fo their talents.
sometimes i wonder how would the vtuber scene look today if fubuki and aqua didnt join hololive but went for nijisanji instead.

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>>14408607
~6k 50 min prior

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>>14407435
Everytime I read this text it always reminds me of this pic.

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>>14408687
I'm not doing shitposts just because you disagree with me. And the fact you actually think like this is hilarious, to act like vtubers from nijisanji, vspo, 774 and many other jp agencies are bad just because hololive grew from clippers and the chinese momentum they had at the time with their bilibili partnership.

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>>14408687
9 times out of 10 Nijisanji wins the west. We just happened to be in the 10th timeline. The box worked and trapped fans in hololive.

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>>14408555
most viral clips werent even from chinks
why are you even so assblasted on the idea all clippers were chinese?

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>>14408687
A post like this is such a showing that you don't really watch nijisanji to say something like this.
Or even hololive, putting pekora,

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>>14408781
he read about it on /vt/ a few months ago

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>>14408781
Most viral clips were from hololive moments, what are you even talking about?
>>14408761
stop falseflagging

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>>14408781
Probably cause Hololive Moments stole clips and wouldn’t credit the actual clippers.
That channel was fucking huge and it’s death is what led to a boom in clipping channels.

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>>14408818
>saying box pushing works is falseflagging

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>>14408818
stop lying, you're losing testosterone

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>>14408795
or even hololive, putting pekora, aqua as leaders. They are charismatic, but there's also plenty of charismatic girls in other jp vtuber agencies as well. Mito, Sasaki, Hoshikawa, Patra, Uruha, Noah, Naga sisters, Met and many others that never had such a thing. But then you come in here to say it was due to them and act like hololive has some unique grapple when there's an entire industry outside of it with a lot of talented and charismatic people which would grow as much if they had as much clips as hololive got.

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Kiara's waiting number is below Mori at the same time but the potential result is close to her 1st outfit.

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>>14408881
aw come on dude we've all seen niji clips and the best one is from NijiID

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>>14408839
The point was about 10th timeline, retard.
>>14408838
Not hard to recognize this. Hololive moments had a complete domination on clips until it died on the taiwan incident

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>>14408838
Hololive moments did one thing really well and that's basically collecting the best that the entire chink fanbase had to offer and putting them all onto one channel. That's really it, so when they died they didn't really affect the landscape that much because all the clips and meme videos are still being made, they just aren't concentrated into one channel anymore so it's more of a freeforall.

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>>14408883
50 min prior Kiara 4.7K/ 6K(Mori)*89K=69.7K
First outfit 70K~71K

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>>14408881
It was the box.

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>>14408954
Shut up boxschizo

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>>14408916
It's not about nijisanji anymore but the industry in general. I completely recognize all of the girls in the example, but to say as if they are unique to this industry? About how they weren't helped by the ton of clips they got? If 774 got as much clips as hololive had in 2019, they would be the most popular agency now, not hololive or nijisanji. YOu know why? because they have plenty of talents for that, so if someone translated their shit as much as holo had, they would be much more popular.
It's not about talents, it's about how we in the west won't see shit or knowing it exists until that. I could say the same for vspo girls and many others. JP agencies in general if they had holo exposure they would be in their position, I'm sure of that. Now if they would be able to sustain that position is another story.

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>>14408978
But it was. It collected foreign interest and made them focus on one thing. They refuse to explore because of the box. They are drawn in by the box.

Why do holofans refuse to acknowledge the box?

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Ame is close to 1M followers on Twitter.
I wonder if it will help her to get more SCs.

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Okay newfriends we know you guys weren't around when Hololive's overseas fanbase was dominated by chinks, it doesn't mean you need to deny it ever happened

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>>14408933
Audiences don't translate that linearly....

They don't, right?

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>>14409022
>i wonder if it will help her to get more SCs
anon come on, everyone knows that ame is infamous for shutting down superchats, i would look more in the increase of her membership instead

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>>14409002
Nonsense, one pekora clip is worth a thousand niji clips just accept there's a huge different in talent

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>>14409027
No they don't, the nijikart stream yesteraday had like 8k members waiting 20 minutes before the start

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>>14409063
Maybe there is a gulf between Pekora and random females from other companies but even low tier holos get numbers that far outweigh their talent.

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>>14409027
In some cases it's more linear. But you also get anomalies like Rosemi's collab which still baffles me how it ended that way.

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>>14409002
>Now if they would be able to sustain that position is another story.
Not him, but it's ironic that you say this, because it is exactly this that happened to Nijisanji... multiple times. Western media would randomly pick up on them and then a lot people paid attention only to end with them shutting down, filtering the audience, or outright sabotaging themselves (and in the special case of Lulu, the company just killing your audience every time you got a threat of some kind).

Hololive on the other hand, picked up on the influx and decided to run with it rather than against it. It does take a specific mindset to actually reach out to, and then win over an audience that barely can understand you.

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>>14407858
>>14408418
To compare to Council, the two who streamed the most hours last month were the artist who spent a third of the month on break and the sleep-deprived college student. So even there the ones with the most going on outside of streaming are the ones streaming the most.

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>>14409116
Nah, the 2k people that watch Aki while talents like Miko and Pekora are streaming at the same time do so because they love Aki.
You might be biased about it but it doesn't change how talented they are compared to other women.

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>>14408818
>most viral clips were from hololive moments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7VehnJmF14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ8t6A-g5hc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQMLWIt9md4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqHs4VTb2FU

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>>14409120
People ditched her when they found out she's a Judas incarnate.

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>>14409203
>clips with a few million views vs an entire channel with over a million subs, more than even some of the top holos at the time

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Kiara 30 min prior : 6173

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>>14409021
This conversation always ends with you making rrats about the evil management forcing the talents to follow a schedule in order to maintain the "box pushing"

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>>14409159
This, Hololive took their chance and pushed really hard into the western market (mostly thanked to Coco), while Nijisanji didn’t. By the time they tried it’s already too late.

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>>14409263
exactly?

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>>14409263
>entire channel with over a million subs
https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/HoloLive_Moments
kek you are actually delusional

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>>14409180
Work ethic is work ethic. It's a character trait. Fauna is the worst offender. She has no other obligations, no roommate presence, no mental health issues, and nothing holding her back but she still doesn't do much. Apparently she was a hard worker at some point as an indie. Maybe she hates management, we know Mumei hates her manager.
>>14409289
I remember individual nijisanji talents trying to appeal to foreigners all throughout 2020.

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>>14409269
That's when YouTube starts to send notifications

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>>14409326
that can't be right, he was there and seen it happen!

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>>14409064
>>14409159
>>14409289
What part about it not being about nijisanji you guys didn't understand? I even made sure to mention other agency and to say I was talking about the industry in general.

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>>14409263
also
we were talking about viral videos not channel subs
learn what viral means chink
you spread corona you should know how it works

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>>14409263
>entire channel with over a million subs
Do you really think everyone here is a fucking newfag ?

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>>14409326
>>14409362
except I didn't respond about this, retard. You are talking with another anon.

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>>14409367
It's irrelevant, I said niji because it's not hololive. I could have said The Wacky Wendingo Vtuber Party and it would make no difference to what I said.

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>>14409263
>vs an entire channel with over a million subs
Why do you turn this thread into a house of lies anon?

At their peak they had 234k subs. If you want to give them credit give for the right thing, they were consistent and released often and in a similar format with a high effort production

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>>14409002
Now answer, why do you think hololive got clipped so much back then and by who?
Do you really think a bunch of nip clippers decided to translate clips of untalented and less popular chuubas out of nowhere and for no fucking reason?

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>>14409326
too easy

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>>14406161
40k with some luck

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>>14406333
imagine paying for asmr

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>>14409410
It's not irrelevant. You guys don't even want to make arguments about the industry that exists outside of those two. You act like the only talented vtubers who exist are in hololive, like generations only are in hololive and so many things that are default in agencies in Japan but somehow only hololive does and not because they got a huge exposure from clips in the west to help their growth. You guys actually believe in that and ignore other agencies to make this argument. I can for sure say to you that if any other agency had the exposure holo had in 2019-2020, they would be the leader in the market and we would be making those arguments about them and saying how Patra is such a charismatic leader instead of Fubuki.

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>>14409457
I'm not calling them non-talented. My problem is how you guys act like other agencies don't have talented vtubers that could be in their place if they got the same level of exposure. I see the industry as a whole, not just in this hololive vs niji or worse, just hololive.

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>>14409515
nope, I mean exactly what I say. it was an example. I literally considered using that 774 one you said but decided that niji was more pleasant to read.

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Kiara 20 min prior : 7353

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>>14409454
I must've confused it with another. Still, that's more than what Sushi has right now, so it was no doubt the top clipping channel.

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7.2k waiting
Kiara will beat Mori and Ame

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>>14409610
Ame has reclined but not that low kek.

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>>14409263
>but but screw clips with millions views >subscribers!!
ah yes when proven wrong changes rrats
typical schizo

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These discussions always run into the same problem. At some point Niji was #1 by a good margin and HL was the upstart. Any explanation for their success has to explain why Niji didn't benefit while HL did. If it was chink clippers, why didn't they clip Niji? If it was the AL collab why wasn't there an even more successful Niji collab. And so on. I still haven't heard an answer that makes sense other than Cover scouts well and embraces their overseas fanbase. Anyone have a theory that makes sense?

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>>14405965
Cute hag.

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>>14409669
I'm not that guy. I confused that number with something else.

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>>14409367
I was explaining Niji's case specifically to point out they had been there. A lot of the other agencies would have probably died on that very hill if they did not have someone like Fubuki, Matsuri, Miko or Korone that were willing to capitalize on the western market the first chance they got. Hana literally had the keys to the kingdom (and she was an English speaker even) and she chose to throw it away for... reasons.

The others only became also-rans trying to eigopander after they realized there's money to be made once FBK, Korone and Coco pretty much started setting viewership records oon the back of EOPs.

The only one that did anything different up to this point was WACTOR out of all agencies that decided that it was better to simply target another language demographic altogether.

>>14409328
Yes, they came in late though, which should give you an idea of how well that went for them.

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>>14409610
>>14409640
is hard to say who has the better timeslot, Kiara loses out on a lot of asian audience but Ame loses some and a decent chunk of EU.
I assume US is fine for both, since it's Friday

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>>14409728
To be fair to Hana, she tried hard to get her viewers to watch the other IDs.
Problem is, they gave zero shits about the rest of her branch.

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>>14409732
Eh? No way, Kiara is still during work hours, Ame is after work/school is done. Kiara has a massive debuff for EN audience at her slot

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>>14409203
(me)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq1iAXACKvU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKEqU2itOiw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5MpLQ8TQcQ
chink clippers doko?

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>>14408933
>>14409027
If their streams had the exact same starting times but on different days, then I think you actually could make a few extrapolations from it, but otherwise it’s garbage. One obvious issue in particular is that there were also a ton of JPs streaming during the hour prior to Mori’s stream while Kiara is starting hers in a dead hour.

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8k with 15min to go.
A lot higher than i expect and almost on par with mori.
5k likes vs moris 7k tough
Mori was 20k before starting right?

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>>14409790
It's a good time for Europe

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>>14409515
>>14409515
Nijisanji had plenty of chances to beat hololive and it's not hololive fault they failed to do so. First you have rin getting an direct shout out from pewdiepie. Then you had hana who was one of the most popular vtuber for eop kill her own growth and shut them out. Then you had a massive popular mem whit mito eatting lettuce but nijisanji ignored it. Then you had Nijisanji not taking an en branch seriously with them changing them quickly changing their failing IN branch to En branch and that it. Nijisanji drop the ball on the western market so many times.

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>>14409610
Not even worth a screenshot to grudgepost later.

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>>14408005
>Oh yeah to the people who've watched how is Laplus games streaming ability so far?
Laplus is strong when it comes to streaming games. Her skill when it comes to games is average (she's pretty good at rhythm games though) but her godly talking skills, engaging with chat and general commentary to what happens when she plays makes up for it. She turns it all into a refreshing and entertaining mix.
>Does it have enough legs to carry them in dry days in future?
This is hard to answer since Laplus hasn't played a lot of games and I also think it depends on what games she intends to play in the future besides the ones she's played so far. I think she'll do really well streaming games that basically turns into zatsudans or lets her talk a lot. Need more time to see for sure, but I think she'll do just fine.
>Chloe
Can't comment on Chloe because I haven't watched her outside of her debut, sorry.

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>>14409851
Around 24K

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>>14409783
I think part of the problem is pandering to EOPs does almost nothing for your actual ccv/views in the short/medium term. They literally can't watch, they don’t' speak JP. What they can do is consume clips, which boosts you and your colleagues with the algorithm. But it takes a long time to see return on that investment.

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>>14409851
Mori also had over $5k just from pre chat

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>>14409732
Kiara’s timeslot is ass for burgers

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>>14409790
Sure but work hours during a weekend vibe mindset, unless it's physical labour shouldn't be too difficult to find some time.
I also meant like students and stuff too.

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>>14409783
I won't fault her for bad execution. There is no accounting for taste (or the lack thereof) either. What I do shit her on for is her simply going out of her way to throw the possibility of success away intentionally.

[Anonymous No.]

9k on waiting for Chicken

[Anonymous No.]

>>14409971
Hana really broke her own knees. She'd fit in right with Council

[Anonymous No.]

>>14409971
I think she did that once EN debut and took over the scene. Probably stopped giving a shit. Then HoloID had a huge boom and everyone there passed her as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14409932
EOP's are literally pump and dump for sub count only.

[Anonymous No.]

10k waiting
It's better than Mori so far

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara 6 min prior : 10K

[Anonymous No.]

>>14409694
Cover known they had no chance against nijisanji in japan so they catered to the chink instead and got pretty successful there. Hence the chink clippers, then those clipper wanted to made Hololive more popular so they started making english clips. Which weren’t all that popular before the Azulane collab hit and they got an influx of new fags. That happened around the same time as gen 4 debut and Coco capitalized the hell out of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14410074
Nah mori was 12k if i recall sub 10min.
Anyonw bother to do a archive rep?
Still pretty good for her

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>14410074
Mori had 10K 20 min prior, and 24K right before start

[Anonymous No.]

>>14410120
She also had some illegal funneling.

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara waiting numbers
>>/vt/thread/S3266616
>17k-20k
kek

[Anonymous No.]

11k now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14410115
>TW bros staying up til 5am to watch a german girl
they're just like me with the nips!

[Anonymous No.]

11k GET!
Kiara looking strong!

[Anonymous No.]

40k max

[Anonymous No.]

If Kiara manages to beat Mori's number it would be a good primetime shitposting material Kek

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara right before the steam : 13,383

[Anonymous No.]

Peaked at 13k waiting

[Anonymous No.]

13.5k waiting at the full hour mark

[Anonymous No.]

>>14410120
This was 10min before stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>14410102
Calli starts with 18k in waiting room. Kiara is with 13k

[Anonymous No.]

How was Orca's superchat stream? I missed everything due to work, where is she ranking?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>14410426
she has sent japan into a recession

[Anonymous No.]

>>14410331
Callis had 23k before starting the stream. But chicken didnt have any delay calli had 1-2min
I bet 50k

[Anonymous No.]

>>14410426
92k usd

[Anonymous No.]

>>14410426
anon...
here >>14406033

[Anonymous No.]

>>14410426
Orca made an additional 9k from her superchat reading stream. Placing her at 104K USD.

[Anonymous No.]

>Kiara almost reaches the point of out-pacing Mori’s pre-stream viewer count
>just fucking dies right in the final stretch and ends up with less than half the same viewers that Mori started with

Alright, we can officially stop the nonsense that Kiara will even sniff Mori’s peak

[Anonymous No.]

>>14409515
>>14409560
Nijisanji was at the top and had more clippers back then but only holo's went viral , you can cope all you want but that's what happened, anyways back to numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

15k get

[Anonymous No.]

sub 20k wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[Anonymous No.]

>>14410536
Amazing that anyone would even consider it to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14410536
I think the people saying that are less interested in numbers for numbers sake and are just hoping she does well

[Anonymous No.]

60k peak
LET'S GOOOO

[Anonymous No.]

>>14407894
i haven't checked in a while, but i think met has the highest regular ccv in 774. she's part of BIG STAR with reid and nose.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't think I can prove it, but I'm sure the "member messages" have reduced the Superchat revenue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14410616
i mean when we talk about numbers and kiara nearly all the posts are made in bad faith

[Anonymous No.]

>>14410536
>>14410610
Has anyone in the thread even suggested that she'd be anywhere near Mori levels?

[Anonymous No.]

If she gets 40k, i'll be pleasantly surprised.

[Anonymous No.]

18K KEK.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14410669
>I don't think I can prove it, but I'm sure the "member messages" have reduced the Superchat revenue.
It did, next few months of reduce SC revenue for both Holos and Nijis will prove that

[Anonymous No.]

>>14410694
Read the fucking thread.

[Anonymous No.]

poor Kiara, I know she's bad but these numbers are so low. I bet 40k peak

[Anonymous No.]

I don't feel good for her SC, but holy boosto.

[Anonymous No.]

Only 19k so far, this is just sad.

[Anonymous No.]

whats with takeshi's rage rn here in the thread? I thought nips loved germans. Is it lack of sleep?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14410721
It did? Where is the proof now? Don't care about your feelings on it, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14406393
In her dreams anon, in her dream

[Anonymous No.]

20k, next goal is 25k

[Anonymous No.]

20k get.

[Anonymous No.]

20k get

[Anonymous No.]

>>14410769
That's looking optimistic given how it's struggling just to get over 20k

[Anonymous No.]

>>14410772
I wonder where the people who used to SC her went.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14410768
I've been here the whole thread and I never saw anyone genuinely say that she'd reach 70k, let alone 80k or more.

[Anonymous No.]

A reminder that Shion got 93k with nearly 400k less subs than Kiara, let that sink just how pathetic Kiara's numbers so far are.

[Anonymous No.]

Did Kiara do her previous outfit in this timeslot?

[Anonymous No.]

Where the hell are the kfp's, you guys better fire up your rice cookers.

[Anonymous No.]

I want to believe this would be the same numbers Sana would do if Council gets new costumes.
>>14410905
NijiENA most likely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14410978
i think she made it 1 or 2 hours later than this one

[Anonymous No.]

>>14410926
see>>14408933

[Anonymous No.]

¥138k
kek, Mori got more from just 1 guy on pre-chat

[Anonymous No.]

Looks like today will be another example of HoloEN recline. Also, cope about overlapping streams won't work this time.

[Anonymous No.]

I thought KFPs were gachikoi, where ARE they?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>14409694
What if it actually goes back to the considered joke that Yagoo's vision that he's building an actual idol company? Hololive isn't pushing to be just considered as an gaming/gameplay entertainment only, they managed to actually build a name in the whole gaming, streaming, music, and idol industry. Add to it that the whole idol thing is already a big thing in JP before, and how can you improve regular idols? Anime girl idols. Just look at how vocaloid appealed and worked inside and outside JP. So basically, maybe it's about their chosen "approach" perhaps?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411070
They're going to blame on Kiara this time lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411091
waiting for the SC reading stream of course

[Anonymous No.]

>>14410978
><小鳥遊 キアラ(たかなし きあら) 新衣装配信 概要> Kiara
>■配信時間:2021年5月5日(水)6時 6am JST
yes

[Anonymous No.]

If schizo's think 89k is a failure and should graduate, I'd hate to think what should happen to Kiara in their minds.
Maybe tarred feathered and paraded through the streets to be stoned to death

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411028
She probably should have pushed it back 2-3 hours. I feel like it'd be tough to pick a worse time than the current slot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14410873
Anon, it's a costume reveal, if it's 20k ten minutes in it'll be 40k during the spike. You know this, I know this, the fucking dog that lives out in the alley knows this, I don't know who you're even trying to fool here.

[Anonymous No.]

20k isn’t actually terrible number for Kiara to have at this point. Burgers are gonna slowly file in and pump up these numbers the longer it goes on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411116
That won't work either. I am not comparing Kiara with other members. I am comparing her with her last outfit reveal.

[Anonymous No.]

Susan'd

[Anonymous No.]

SUSAN

[Anonymous No.]

This is just sad, HoloEN needs to get their shit together immediately.

[Anonymous No.]

OH NO NO NO NO NOT LIKE THIS

[Anonymous No.]

Ah fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411186
I mean, she's streaming in tako hours and iirc ina had her outfit reveal around this time

[Anonymous No.]

SUSAN YOU MOTHERFUCKER

[Anonymous No.]

Oh shit. Kiara is cursed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411070

B-But anon, she is overlapping with Luna SC reading now! The overlap......

[Anonymous No.]

Well at least now we'll have an excuse lol

[Anonymous No.]

previous costume.

[Anonymous No.]

Keikaku doori

[Anonymous No.]

Welp viewership momentum died with the stream.

[Anonymous No.]

even susan hates kiara

[Anonymous No.]

THE NUMBERS

[Anonymous No.]

Broke into 140k Yen

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411302
Yeah just feels like a bad time to pick up tourists.

[Anonymous No.]

Welp, if there was any chance she gets 40k, it's gone now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411154
89k wasn't the issue, the 46k drop from her first outfit reveal was why people were calling it a failure/disappointment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14410463
>Calli had 1-2 min
According to holostats she started on time with 18k waiting.

https://holo.poi.cat/stream/fm7DGv7KnDY

[Anonymous No.]

The sweet Austrian internet, can't wait for Amelia's PC to crash mid way though her stream

[Anonymous No.]

But what if this "crash" was a scripted stunt to attract more saviorfags for higher ccv?

[Anonymous No.]

poor chimkin...

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411454
i think that 46K drop only showed the buff that was the golden week itself since mori and kiara were the only ones that had a benefit from it

[Anonymous No.]

It was not Susan's fault (this time)

[Anonymous No.]

She is annoying but I feel pretty bad for her

[Anonymous No.]

Top Jewtube moment

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine being Kiara, a well known numberfag in this moment? She probably took the video down so kfp can have excuses lol.

[Anonymous No.]

5k get

[Anonymous No.]

>>14410971
I'm not going to say subs are irrelevant, but as a predictor of CCV for holos it's really useless. It's only slightly better than looking at a horoscope given how little correlation they have.

[Anonymous No.]

oh no
>>14411478

[Anonymous No.]

Im far from a fan of Kiara, but I genuinely feel really bad for her right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411599
>her gpu died
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

Oh JESAS.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411454
People ignore the context. Myth outfits were a golden week relay togheter with gen4.
They also ignore how callis total view outdwarfs almost all the recent outfit reveals

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411433
Wth ?
I don't watch Kiara, but is it normal for her to have more JP donos than USD ?
And lol, massive Eur donos for an EU streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411599
she has set japanese as default
what a weeb

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411681
Why? Her new costume is going to attract much more attention than it would otherwise now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411605
She probably neck herself

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411599
>susan's shit program crashes the pc
>not susan's fault

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411599
Seriously? Of all the days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411599
Yep, definitely this: >>14411540

[Anonymous No.]

Well today just turned into a free gold day. Better stream apex kuzuha.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411599
I have no idea of what the fuck is that supposed to be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411805
Ame still has her outfit reveal, anonchama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411706
golden week is a jap holiday that doesn't apply to west cope nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411805
Ame's stream is today

[Anonymous No.]

Broken GPU helps donos

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411745
an example of a stream going offline and attracting more of an audience?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411745
>not streaming will attract a lot more attention that streaming
Schizo logic

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411805
Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

Well...she can reveal at the better time ( for JP and SEA )

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411454
A disappointment, yes. No one either than schizos was calling it a failure. Most people were aware of the things going against it (delays, a debut, them not being grouped with other outfit reveals, etc) and even from a long time before it started no one expected it so much higher than 100k in the first place. Many even speculated it being around 90k, and they were correct there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411739
She bought it in Japan and never bothered to change it cuz lazy

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411739
Changing the settings of everything you use to moon is a good way to force yourself to do practice by immersion. For somebody whose job actually demands moon knowledge, it makes sense.

[Anonymous No.]

At least Kiara will have a better timeslot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411454
Yeah but the first one was an uncontested time this outfit reveal had a couple of stream going on with 20k, call it Cope as much as you want but it did good all things considering

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411540
if there is an in-between rescheduling then yeah maybe that will work. But if talking about doing it again now then her momentum just died so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411805
To be fair, judging by holoEN recline, I can say for sure that if Gura's outfit reveal somehow happen on the same day with Toya's MarioCart finals, Gura would be left with a silver.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411828
CPU died

[Anonymous No.]

>>14410829
>It did? Where is the proof now? Don't care about your feelings on it, anon.
I'm waiting for a couple of more months of SC data to establish a causal relationship

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411828
BSOD, but you can see the bottom of the screen is fucked, so it might be a GPU failure

[Anonymous No.]

Well the good news is that it's not like there are any streams coming up so she can extend it for a good couple of hours without issue

[Anonymous No.]

Gofundme for Kiara

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara must be crying right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411867
>japanese vtubers dont benefit from japanese viewer
Ok

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411884
>>14411888
The world exists outside of the confines of a single youtube stream you know. A story that people talk about can spread much more than an unremarkable stream in a series of 5 unremarkable streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14408025
Ahh we back again with Nijifags victim playing

[Anonymous No.]

>>14412074
I asked for an example

[Anonymous No.]

237k Yen. Damn.. We might see some big numbers?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

well theres nobody scheduled for 7 am jst, so she can extend it to compensate

[Anonymous No.]

WATAMAGEEEEEEEEE!

[Anonymous No.]

>>14412119
I never said it would attract more of an audience to the stream, why would I give an example of something retarded like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>gets back
>immediately crashes again

[Anonymous No.]

she's back boys...
numbers gone

[Anonymous No.]

Chicken breaking 300k Yen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14412279
An example for what you said then

[Anonymous No.]

>>14412068
>holox debut buff
>3x buff view than golden week
>still a midget
lole

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411989
>Toya’s 3D couldn’t top Mori’s outfit reveal
>“Nijibros, I got a good feeling that we’re gonna top HoloEN’s ringer”

Why are they like this?

[Anonymous No.]

Holy shit the ccv jumped from 2k to 17k in seconds. Gotta be tab ins

[Anonymous No.]

>>14412202
>>14412287
Nahh, Watame loves Kiara, was promoting her outfit reveal and their next possible collab in today's stream.

[Anonymous No.]

At least Kiara has a legitimate excuse for low numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>Rose like a phoenix
Jewish trickery

[Anonymous No.]

The girls have to get rid of these stupid membership messages. They drown out the actual akasupas

[Anonymous No.]

Here anons, while people wait for Kiara to fix her stuff, one interesting piece of information
>pic related

This chart contains, for the month of December 2021, the "coverage of slots" for all of Hololive, with the "gaps" meaning no stream was ongoing in that slot.

[Anonymous No.]

wait she doesn't lost anyone

[Anonymous No.]

I WANNA SAVEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.]

>>14412450
foolish anon, everybody knows that watamage is watame's evil twin

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Nice graph

[Anonymous No.]

>>14412364
Of something going wrong during a stream attracting more attention to its content than it otherwise would? Just type 放送事故 on the youtube search bar and have a blast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14412287
watamage, have mercy

[Anonymous No.]

>>14412287
The prophecy is true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14412545
it looks like a coded message

[Anonymous No.]

Oh no.

[Anonymous No.]

I'M GONNA SAVEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.]

>>14412580
and its gone again. now i genuinely feel bad for her

[Anonymous No.]

>>14412287
WATAMAAAAAAAGEEEEEEE!!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>14412559
And Watamelon is her most powerful creation

[Anonymous No.]

>>14412287
OH NO

[Anonymous No.]

>>14412701
This is like a car crash. I want to save but I need to video it too.

[Anonymous No.]

The chart of her stream looks cursed as fuck now.

[Anonymous No.]

I genuinely feel bad for her atm, holy shit what a trainwreck.

[Anonymous No.]

Welp, i'm just gonna wait for Ame.
At this rate, even bronze is unachievable for Chicken.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14412417
Toya had pretty much the same ccv as Mori's outfit reveal while he was dragging PNG's around the screen. It wasn't something like koshen draft where they pick teams, so there wasn't any hype. That's why finals will get a much bigger ccv than 'draft'.

[Anonymous No.]

3 times!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

FUCKING KEK, is she drawing a very datailed Gostling or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14412733
>>14412559
>>14412450
i thought watamelon was their retarded little sister, but shes showing her power today

[Anonymous No.]

>>14412973
Is it all on one POV?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14412202
>>14412287
And it happens again. Devious - devilish even.

[Anonymous No.]

Just reschedule Kiara. Please reschedule.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14411109
The original pitch for AKB48 was "Idols you can meet" because they'd have a daily concert at their theatre regularly and hang out at the café afterwards which allows to build a stronger more dedicated fanbase. It doesn't take a genius to see how anime girl streamers coming straight to your room are the logical next step, but that would require EOPs to know what idols are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413125
>Just reschedule Kiara. Please reschedule.
NO, POWER THROUGH THE PAIN! DO IT!

[Anonymous No.]

what a great day to do another shinning hunting!

[Anonymous No.]

If streaming was my livlihood I'd have multiple connections with fall back, say fiber and cellular back-up, or even Starlink. This is just painful

[Anonymous No.]

400K Yen Get

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413125
Ina has this time tomorrow, she'd have to either go even earlier which will kill her CCV or wait until Sunday.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413125
when to? only jp morning wouldnt be taken

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413125
She can using a laptop

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413132
It was not just the "idols you can meet" but also "ensemble with no lead", as opposed to Kizuna AI project, Sakura Miko project, Mirai Akari project and a myriad of "solo idol" projects that were popping up back then.

[Anonymous No.]

Could she slide in between Ina and Gura and make it a pseudo relay?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14412580
Nothing gets me harder then these kind of numbers. Someone could get 1million ccv and I wouldn't be as hard as I am right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413196
Isn't it a collab with RBC? Based friend helping lower tier holos again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413322
This seems plausible. Could even help her funnel some viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413257
She can reveal 2 hrs after Gura's, (Yeh, sacrifice EU viwers)

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413196
I actually wouldn't be surprised if Fubuki just boots up a Pokemon stream immediately after this.

She's stream after every sad announcement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14409417
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413125
They are gonna have a myth full collab after Gura's reveal on Gura's channel, with their new outfits.
I doubt they are in the mood for rescheduling considering all of them already have off-stream plans for the holidays (sans Mori).

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413205
oh wow very interesting
>>14413196
f-fubuki... en is dying with these numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413102
As far as I remember, there would be 1 main pov, and couple optional. Similar to what NijiEN had.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413322
>>14413435
is unlikely she'd stop trying because of SCs she's received already though

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413447
i dont think fbking is awake right now

[Anonymous No.]

Being Takanashi Kiara is suffering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413472
Oof. Sucks to be fried Chicken right now.

Also, she's looking to cross to 500k Yen soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413257
>or wait until Sunday.

And how would that be bad exactly? She’d probably get better numbers on a Sunday than a Friday at this time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413435
It's already almost 11PM in EU, this isn't for them.

[Anonymous No.]

If this was HoloJP outfit reveal, this would be the part where Fubuki starts the stream and tries to entertain Kiara's audience while she deals with technical issues. Shame HoloEN doesn't have it's own Fubuki.

[Anonymous No.]

Just move 2 hrs later, it still has a plenty of time before Ame's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413024
Isn't that Korone's companion on streams? Is he telling Kiara to go sleep?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413024

[Anonymous No.]

>>14412973
>while he was dragging PNG's around the screen
And playing a gacha of who will get drafted into which team.Don't ignore the part which actually brought numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

look at those numbers go!

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413598
they have a new outfits collab after gura's, she needs to do it before

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413024
I don't see the shape.

[Anonymous No.]

Alright, this is too scuffed to recover at this point, just reschedule.

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara looks too tired for her outfit reveal, better take her stream down so she can sleep

[Anonymous No.]

F

[Anonymous No.]

Sounds like she's rescheduling until after Ame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413710
yubi yubi

[Anonymous No.]

Saveeeeee!!!!
I will not be saving. Rather, I myself as a whole will be saveeeeee!!!!
Stop, Anon! Your stamina won't hold up!
No! I will be save itself! I will SURELY be save itself!
SAVEEEEE!!!!
Stop it! You'll die, Anon!
Even if I die, I will be save itself!
WOOOOAHHHH!

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413566
YOUR OSHI WILL STREAM TO SAVE THE DAY!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413780
No keep going Kiara I wanna see how wacked up the chart will look

[Anonymous No.]

At least she got paid for this...

[Anonymous No.]

She still didn't realized that her GPU is gone forever

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413710
>>14413718

[Anonymous No.]

She is going after Ame. Is ogre now but at least she had supa and clips for this.

[Anonymous No.]

stream postponed to sometime after ame's

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413816
F for Feelsbadman, but maybe she'll get even BIGGER numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413816
Probably going to be better for numbers anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413742
Watamage! Did you predict Kiara will get shit numbers? That's why you had her Pc crash so she can move into a new timeslot?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413132
By current trends I don't think Idols in general is that hard to grasp now, for EOPs or for normies even

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413934
Best part is that she will NEVER be able to procure a new one in less than a month

[Anonymous No.]

Ive been quit harsh on Kiara from time to time. But I ont know of she deserves this on top of getting shit numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413934
how so?

[Anonymous No.]

What was looking like a dire SC situation is now not so bad. 500k Yen Get.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413943
kek, Kiara will have two positions in the top today

[Anonymous No.]

>>14414089
She deserves this for getting shit numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

There is a 95% probability that kiara is crying right now.
even though, her peak is gonna be 60k

[Anonymous No.]

>>14414048
You can buy a secondary market resale right? Not like she can't afford it since it's literally how she makes her money.

[Anonymous No.]

I hope the mama and rigger didn't have scheduled tweets to go out detailing the new outfit...

[Anonymous No.]

>>14414212
5% is has ended her life?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413713
Anon, you clearly didn't watch the stream. When he was drafting 6v6 teams, viewers actually dropped a little. The highest peak was not during team draft, but during group draft.
As I said, it's lightyears away from Koushen draft hype, because those 6v6 team games are only a little part of the entire tourney and, as a matter of fact, quite an insignificant part.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14414228
kek, imagine

[Anonymous No.]

>>14414280
5% she's in rage

[Anonymous No.]

This is scripted. It was just to bait sc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14414048
She can try using the onboard graphics (if she is using Intel)

[Anonymous No.]

>>14414212
Ame probably won't be done until 11 PM, it's gonna be 5 AM for Kiara, she's won't be able to sleep until then, if she can even get it to work. This will be a mess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14414048
She can probably just walk into a store and buy a prebuilt with something acceptable, unless the supply situation in her country has some specific difficulties I don't know about.

[Anonymous No.]

Ain't gonna' lie. This probably saved her outfit CCV... assuming she gets to do her outfit reveal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14414048
for a quick fix she can get an excellent 2nd hand one at any computer repair shop in her city. Not even 200 Euro.
While she waits for a good one to be shipped.

[Anonymous No.]

Say is it just me or are there alot of people in here who really want Kiara to suffer for some reason?

[Anonymous No.]

Time to search craigslist

[Anonymous No.]

>>14414100
She has artifacts in the screen

[Anonymous No.]

>>14414346
it's a friday night, people gonna saveeee

[Anonymous No.]

Wamy's Salt affected even Kiara.

I wanna fuck Wamy while sending Red Scs to Orca using Wamy's Credit Card

[Anonymous No.]

>>14414356
It depends on when it's rescheduled to, if it's on Sunday she might get a boost, but if it's literally later today she's going to run right smack into weekend primetime

[Anonymous No.]

>>14414297
Sorry my phrasing was wrong there but I meant for the time he was dividing into groups of 8.(I should have used groups ) That's when he got his highest CCV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14414397
Suffering kino is the best any Holo ever can get. It's literally surefire way to get attention.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14412545
Nice work, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413649
Or you know what would really help is if EN’s manager wasnt a LARPing tranny on Twitter who actually does their job

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413132
I was making a comparison of the two companies

[Anonymous No.]

>>14414048
Apparently you can still find 6900 XTs on euro shelves at 2-3x MSRP. Not a great solution but it sounds viable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413649
Isn't Kiara HoloEN's Fubuki for this particular purpose?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14414579
Omega is not a manager, though.

[Anonymous No.]

Final tally for Cursed Stream. Pretty good since she started extremely slow and low.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14412545
Here are five things about this chart

1) Hololive streaming is ALMOST continuous, with only 7 gaps in this chart where no Hololive stream was hapenning
2) The largest gap without any stream going on (for the month of December) so far was between yesterday's Ayame stream and Ina's Black Mesa stream (a two and a half hours gap where there was no stream going on)
3) JP has the biggest streak of the month so far, with no gaps between 6:30AM of the 4th and 5AM on the 6th, including no empty slot in the whole Dec 5
4) Usually EN covers the gaps in the high night for JP and the only gaps that happen is when they fail to do so

[Anonymous No.]

>>14413024

[Anonymous No.]

>>14414579
Omega is the producer, not a manager

[Anonymous No.]

Ame Twitter 1 M followers

[Anonymous No.]

This is ILLEGAL

[Anonymous No.]

Looks like two things happened:
Her GPU is probably dead.
Austria is currently having a massive internet outage that took out 5 ISPs

[Anonymous No.]

>>14415105
based jp girls saving en

[Anonymous No.]

>>14415115
>Austria is currently having a massive internet outage that took out 5 ISPs
What the flipping fuck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14415115
Somebody really hates Kiara and I think it's the God.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14415115
Sounds like a power surge fucking up multiple things.

[Anonymous No.]

She rescheduled to after Ame but no way in hell that GPU gonna be fixed soon as it's 11 PM in Austria right now. Unless she got spare laptop, it will take at least 9 hours before the repair shops even open up in the morning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14415115
What the fuck?! Of all days.. Maybe this isn't a curse.. It's a blessing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14415115
Russian invasion? EMP?

[Anonymous No.]

Any chance she reveals 2 hrs before Holotalk?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14414346
Does anybody know how well Kiara handles having to stay awake that long? Because I know Mori has an ungodly ability to just fucking stream whenever, sleep is just a construct for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14415115
this reeks of a power surge and old transformers, however a modern computer should have been able to handle that without frying something

[Anonymous No.]

>>14414339
If true, I kneel. She knew she wouldn't get the gold in this time/day so she thought going the superchat route. She'll reschedule her reveal for a JP friendly time to get the JP views to boost her numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>14414397
Number Thread anon, Kiara always gets shit numbers so of course she's hated here

[Anonymous No.]

>>14415436
that means sana is hated too

[Anonymous No.]

>>14415506
Ofcourse, Sana deserves the hate for taking a month break which tank her already midget numbers to NijiEN level

[Anonymous No.]

>>14415506
Sana is the numbers devil.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14415506
midget

[Anonymous No.]

>>14415554
>>14415578
>>14415580
kek

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara getting 2 spots in the top 10 is going to knock some Nijikek out of the top 10 to give Hololive the top 10 sweep. I kneel Kiara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14415506
Absolutely, people call for graduation every other thread.

[Anonymous No.]

As somebody who is technologically illiterate, why exactly haven’t we made computers able to connect to 5G whenever ISPs are shitting themselves and being fags?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14415309
Anon she did a 12 hours stream for her 1mill Sub and then the next day a 12 hour superchat reading of that stream while also saying she felt fine and could have keep going on her original stream.
It's funny how the last place in Myth (Kiara) and Council (Sana) stream long hours

[Anonymous No.]

>>14415674
She deleted it, does the first one even count?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14415699
You already can and it has nothing to do with your PC, you just need a router with mobile internet functionality or even just a phone with tethering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14415506
How new? They call for her ID and Homostars to graduate, hell their is even people calling for EN and a whole to be yeet'd

[Anonymous No.]

>>14415699
Look up tethering anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>14415699
We already do that, but those are only done for laptops and tablets. Desktop PCs of any kind generally don't need to be moved anywhere, so no one bothers attaching a 5G modem to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14415699
You can, just get a wifi adapter and tether to your phone

[Anonymous No.]

>>14412545
>>14414774
Here is something else interesting in the same vein
>same coverage chart, but for Gen 3 ONLY

It is very obvious how they coordinate their schedule to EXTEND the primetime from 7:30PM to 1:30AM on a regular weekday, and from around noon to way after midnight on weekends.

This should be on an art museum, it is a beautiful display of professionalism and preparation

[Anonymous No.]

>>14406333
>Nijisanji R18 ASMR
Nijisanjis are doing r18 asmr , really?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14415943
Here is a zoom on the past 2 days, for a better view of their coordination and spread to cover the most hours with the four or five streamers they have in that day

[Anonymous No.]

>>14415763
If unarchived karaoke streams count, I don't see why this wouldn't count either.

[Anonymous No.]

It's funny how /#/ has the widest variety of everything. Be it:
>topic
>board
>demographics
>interests
>skill
>mental state
we just got it.

This thread is wild.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14416031
best thread in the board

[Anonymous No.]

>>14415993
>>14415943
Hopefully gen 6 will do something similar

[Anonymous No.]

>>14415943
>>14415993
Now here is myth, as a contrast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14416146
Of course december is not the typical month for them, with the outfits but the lack of continuity KILLS any chance of having a "funnel", people end up tuning in to watch their oshi and then bails

[Anonymous No.]

>3 SC reading in a week

She knows exactly what she is doing

[Anonymous No.]

>>14416243
i love her so much

[Anonymous No.]

>>14416243
that's ... a lot of work

[Anonymous No.]

>>14415993
>>14415943
Here is Myth. There are days they manage to connect (like on Dec 1st) and they can form a proper funnel.

On other days it's like they're individual streamers instead of part of a box and their audience ends up isolated from each other and from the company as a whole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14415943
Gorgeous, I remember when Pekora cancelled her stream at the last minute due to idol reps, and Flare instantly switched to the slot to bridge the gap between Rushia and Marine.
I wonder who among them is handling the coordination of their streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14416433
I say it's either Pekora or Flare. Marine was absent for quite some time and the "funnel" didn't break, Noel is less constant and Rushia doesn't seem like the leader type.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14416243
Aside from SC Readings, Her streams for the next 4 days is just 1Undertale & 1Pokemon?
That'll tank her Median

[Anonymous No.]

>>14412098
yes anon, I'm a nijifag. That's why I talked about vspo members as well.

[Anonymous No.]

Here is an update on the ranking of medians.

Cutting point is 3 streams this month
>you call it the "Ayame rule", it will usually be *at least* one stream over whatever Ayame done this month, up until 5 in the end of the month

Not a lot of surprises at the top but DAMN if the HoloX girls aren't working hard to take advantage of their buff.

1) Chloe (so far) ahead of pekora
2) Toya (so far) ahead of Kuzuha
3) Mumei with a month so good I had to double check to see if my script fucked up
4) Lize and Ibrahim taking full advantage of the Pokemon buff
5) Fubuki having an awesome month as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417132
Mumei at 12k? Maybe there is some hope for council after all, maybe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14415943
I thought Illegal funneling was a meme.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14416429
You fucked up your label title, graphanon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417132
>the Ayame rule excludes Gura
lmao I knew it was just a matter of time, she's so fucking lazy it's absurd

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417132
>50 spots and not a single niji en
just scrap that failures already

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417132
Mumei has done a lot of one-off semi-meme streams instead of like playing Zelda a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417132
how the fuck is mori at the top of EN's? longer streaming hours?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417132
Kiara is above Irys and Fauna? What hell? Watame is above everyone on council besides Mumei too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417132
GO SUISEI

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417299
She is the only one in EN that is actually trying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14416493
It's about on par with her genmates. All of them are doing 1-2 streams daily now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417299
gura's had 2 streams on other channels and 2 unarchived member streams so she apparently doesn't qualify

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417299
Mori is the one who performed strongest with Pokemon and has also done a lot of buff streams like singing + her outfit is a big boost (if it was included in that chart).

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417132
Here is the full ranking and some more comments

1) Petra and Anya are back together
2) Selen is like a clock with her unflinching 2.8k median
3) HoloJP bottom is rising (Roboco, Mel and Matsuri all above 3k) leaving Sana hanging by one Holo (Aki) to be the lower performing of EN+JP
4) Still on Sana, Selen median doesn't move (it's 2.8k in every ranking) meaning Sana has very little margin of recline before she gets overtaken or, better yet, before she overtake Selen to the bottom
5) Aruran has fucking 24 streams this month.
6) Hana Macchia is almost being overtaken by another NijiID
7) Without Bora, the highest performing NijiKR is at 345 median

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417224
kek, didn't think anyone would notice, people can get the right info frmo the legend

Thanks for warning, will fix it in a later version

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417299
>>14417301
Kiara and Mori interestingly get better numbers in much the same way: karaokes, collabs, and camera streams boost there numbers a ton, enough to outweight their debuff gaming streams. Mori also did a lot of Pokemon which helped her a bit, certainly more than Ori did Kiara. We meme their numbers but it's not like they don't have potential.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417420
>Without Bora, the highest performing NijiKR is at 345 median

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417132
>74% of the top 50 are hololive
Dang. Also Iroha is looking good.

You can easily guess which entries are from Rokkisei girls just by looking at the number of streams. Council fans must look on in envy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14416243
I'm having a hard time telling if she's doing this just to show off the insane amount of superchat she got or if she plans to go the sheep and kusotori route of turning superchat reading into one of her main contents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417132
Ame's weakest month so far. She'll probably even it out to the usual 8k by the end of the December, but her game choice lately was fucking awful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417569
Has Ame even played anything new? Feels like she's just continuing the stuff she's already started long ago (Oblivion, DKC)

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417420
niji id and kr are as good as dead right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417420
My biggest fear is coming true. HoloX seems to be pushing Nijisanji members out of the top 50 somehow. There was a glu of them typically in the 40-50 range in these tables but it has shifted.

HoloEN dropped a lot. Like wow, Bae was at 37 last time I checked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417644
She managed to mix common SC readings and watchalongs with 3 debuff games (DK, Ghostrunner, and capeshit)

[Anonymous No.]

>>14416493
Medians are nice and all but she obviously seems like she is going for SCs. She might tone it down later.

La+ is the one I worry about, she has no strategy outside of being everywhere she can with content. Is she still doing twit casts all the time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417706
Somehow? There was no chance they would not push 5 of them off the list. Anyone being added to Hololive is automatically going to be over the vast majority of Nijis, especially in the JP branch. Holo ID3 will knock 3 more of them off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417767
Public watchalongs are poison, that shit should be confined to member streams. I'm glad my Ina does them like that 90% of the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417568
Would guess the latter. Her PL didn't have much content, it was mostly utawaku on a daily basis with other stuff occasionally sprinkled in.

[Anonymous No.]

Passed Nimu's sub channel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417132
>your cutting point is whatever ayame has +1

[Anonymous No.]

New date for Kiara's outfit

[Anonymous No.]

>>14416243
Starting streams at 2 and 3 AM is an... interesting move to say the least

[Anonymous No.]

>Whoreshikawa: you know what, id like to leech on matsuri's 3D next!
>Matsuri:

[Anonymous No.]

god she's so fucking retarded to not do it saturday
even doing it now would be better

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417301
Watame does well when she stays away from FF9.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14418180
why is she so stupid?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417420
I wonder what it feels like to be a 2view seeing this while knowing that gen 6 were a bunch of 2views(one literally maxed out at 11). I would hate hololive forever and vtuber fans who just watched anything with the hololive name. Getting in is a license to the top 99.99%

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417420
Let's go Nene incline. EN needs to step it up. They are going to lose to Flare at this rate.

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara reschedules her outfit reveal to Sunday 13:00 pst. And there will be a full EN (Myth?) collab at 15:00 pst (Gura's Channel?). Guess it will be a good funneling then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14418352
Honestly it'd be best to catch the Ina funnel and then try to funnel into Gura if she wants the most numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417420
What's the purpose of the cutt-off point this month? If you're cutting Ayame, then cut HoloX too, since debuts obviously skew their numbers in much the same way, as Ayame and her rare streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417132
IRyS declining...

[Anonymous No.]

>>14418377
There have been saviorfag threads for Flare on here and other places. The same Flare that is in the top 25 in median viewers and 13th all time in SCs.

How do we cure numberrot?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14418180
i fucking hope the rest of myth doesnt move their collab because she didnt want to do it saturday

[Anonymous No.]

>>14418444
shill stream yesterday

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417241
Yes, doing 6 streams is indeed lazy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14418180
It's things like this that make me think Kiara is not a numberfag but is just someone who wishes numbers would fall out of the sky.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14418625
and a watchalong next

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417189
>>14417296
She’s built up her confidence enough that she’s not as reliant on BotW and Pokémon as an emotional crutch, she’s in the process of unfucking her SCs, she’s done two unarchived streams this month, and she’s done Minecraft streams on the server. She seems to have an knack for doing stuff that brings in the numbers when she doesn’t let her nerves get in the way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14418261
Her frequent SC reading streams also push down her median a lot. Also, she occasionally plays some really random games that don't bring in any viewers, and will sometimes play them for several streams if she likes it. That is to say, she does well so long as she's singing or following trends.

[Anonymous No.]

She isn't talking

[Anonymous No.]

>>14418709
this is one of the best kiara streams ever

[Anonymous No.]

>>14418749
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>14418261
She really should've finished that game a long time ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14418709
That's a buff

[Anonymous No.]

>>14418709
If this gets 15k then i'll be convinced that its her voice that debuffs her

[Anonymous No.]

>>14418684
She has holotal on saturday. It will be rude to change that or try to squeeze a syream there sunday is enough for people to be aware of.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14418444
She's streaming less. I'm guessing its for a new song. Not worth losing viewers in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14418709
Can Kiara not talking beat NijiEN's highest stream of all time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14418701
Seems to be the case, though if I remember correctly she also has one of the higher membership numbers. I figure she's content with a lower number of tourists, but it probably doesn't help her song views where she'd want a wider net.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14418377
A lot of that is her return boost after her menhera episode.
Lamy has an impressive incline - she's not far off Botan now, and I feel her averages used to be more like half.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14418709
Why not just fucking do it now. Her numbers were shit and they'll be shit when she does the stream on Monday.
Fuck this bird

[Anonymous No.]

>>14418996
How much is that, 15k? If Kiara manages to turn this stream into a waiting room for Ame than it's possible to reach that high.

[Anonymous No.]

Noel 10k get

[Anonymous No.]

Sana was clearly a wrong choice

The character design is awful
Live 2d is awful
Voice is awful
Brings nothing new on the table
Not hard working enough

And actually had the audacity of intentionally filtering out tourist.

Ame

Has the potential but too retarded to do it. I guess her boyfriend doesn't like her giving gfe experience to people on the internet that's why she stopped that shit and yeah awful game choices.
Don't have much issue with the rest

[Anonymous No.]

>>14418996
>>14419164
ok, I'm dumb to type this out at the moment she closes the stream lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419164
I meant normal stream, not a debut stream. Petra got a 9.5k collabing with manjisanji JP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419195
I don't disagree with the Sana stuff but this isn't really the right thread for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419236
And then Kiara got 9543

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419256
Sorry couldn't hold it in

[Anonymous No.]

>>14418364
It would surprise you, but not everybody is a seething jealous bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419195
>boyfriend
>menhera episodes almost every other stream
dyrbi?

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara ended the stream with 9.5k

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419315
No but I can't deny the possibility either

[Anonymous No.]

Any predictions on who will get gold today? Will Matsuri live get it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419366
Ame probably. I still don't get why Matsuri didn't invite her friends Luna, Haachama, and HSKW

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419366
I think it will be Ame

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419336
By not talking and just typing on the screen. She could do their or 15 minutes a week and raise her medians. Jokes aside I feel like the 6pm weekday est would be so much better for her

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419363
im not gonna argue the retardation of this incel mindset in a numbers thread,
what we can say for sure is she's a menhera that self sabotages herself and alienates viewers: her numbers have been a downhill slope ever since the anniversary

[Anonymous No.]

>>14418364
ZEA...

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419366
Her birthday in July was 47,673.
Even the guests are double today, I don't think she can reach 75K.

[Anonymous No.]

>TOP WINNER OF DECEMBER 2021
1) Chloe (Hololive) - 98,821 - Archived Karaoke
2) Chloe (Hololive) - 74,800 - The Radio Station
3) Hololive ch (Hololive) - 52,239 - Announcement
4) Shion (Hololive) - 93,815 - Outfit Reveal
5) Chloe (Hololive) - 63,541 - Unarchived Karaoke
6) Ayame (Hololive) - 59,998 - Return Stream
7) Mio (Hololive) - 54,729 - Anniversary Totsu
8) Shion (Hololive) - 89,072 - Birthday 3D
9) Mori (Hololive) - 89,923 - Outfit Reveal
10) Toya (Nijisanji) - 89,652 - Niji Mario Kart Lottery&Rules

Gold medal events:
11) Ame new outfit
12) Gura new outfit
13) Kiara new outfit

Winning streak: 0 days

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419395
She invited all of 1st gen except for haachama...

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419499 Meant for >>14417420

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419395
hskw did try to invite herself in, but matuli didnt listen apparently

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419522
she WILL be JP Gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419530
She invited Haachama, she just declined.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419530
Haachama was on hiatus, she did invite her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419395
>Luna
She barely joins 3D lives. This is why I kneel to Marine when she managed to invite her
>Haachama
>Hoshikawa
You know the reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419566
Why would HSKW do that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419610
Luna's not in it. Matsuri herself says that Luna doesn't even pick up the phone when she calls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419592
Anon, that was for her birthday months ago. We're talking about a different live.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417132
Hoshikawa more popular than Matsuri is something I wouldn't expect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419674

good. matsuri fucked up with her hard and now luna has shuba instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419499
Zea is based and just wants to play with her waifu Hana

[Anonymous No.]

>>14417508
>>14417648
They have been good as dead for you all since their very beginning so it doesn't change much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419794
for everyone

[Anonymous No.]

>>14418229
If anything it's the contrary these days. Hoshikawa has much better numbers than Matsuri for a while.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419839
search the clip anonchama

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419839
I still can't believe Matsuri's hand yab managed to halve her already small dedicated fanbase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419823
Not for everyone considering they have communities doing stuff for their birthday, fanart and other stuff. It's literally on the size of a tsunderia or prism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14418444
I wouldn't say that. Her numbers are actually up for the types of games she is playing. She just hasn't done karaoke or Minecraft yet this month which are her buff streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419493
>what we can say for sure is she's a menhera that self sabotages herself and alienates viewers: her numbers have been a downhill slope ever since the anniversary
This timeloop is a permanent lock anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419879
Just saying hskw has a median of 7-6k while matsuri is mostly 2k. Matsuri lost a lot of viewers and has tons of dead subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419933
i wouldnt expect this thread to still have retards who take a median of 3 total streams (2 collabs) seriously, and yet here we are

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419924
>deleted
fuck off jannie, it mentioned numbers

[Anonymous No.]

so... who's gonna take the gold todays lads?
Amelia? Matsuri? or another Niji draft??

[Anonymous No.]

Pink cat is scheming MC collab with usaken

https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1469424714150215680

gen6 is ruthless

[Anonymous No.]

>>14419924
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>14420035
I watch both hskw and matsuri retard. You can't argument that matsuri gets more views than hskw since 2021 when most streams hskw got over 6k while matsuri struggles to reach 3k. Numberfags can compare each month and see hskw getting more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14420068
time to make more traps for the new applicant's interrogation

[Anonymous No.]

dead timeslot and nooone from council want to stream, wtf work your ass up council

[Anonymous No.]

Didn't Hoshikawa say she wanted to do another live with a holomem?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14420068
Work hard Pink cat, the bunny is hard to catch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14420182
she's only friends with Hachaama

[Anonymous No.]

>>14420182
yes with me

[Anonymous No.]

>>14420068
Yeah, I don't want a vacation but it makes sense why Koyori is trying to make the most out of this. I wish more people like Koyori was in Council, not afraid of showering herself with holo glory to boost her popularity and just seems elated to have the opportunity.

[Anonymous No.]

>Noel is joining shiraken
Noefure buff or will it ruin the perfectly balanced chemistry?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14420179
well at least danchou 12k get

[Anonymous No.]

>>14420139
oh you watch both streams? thanks God, I wouldnt have believed if you didnt say so! Her numbers sure look double of matsuri's after all

[Anonymous No.]

>>14420182
Most Holos don't want to pay the collab fee.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14420068
She sent a tweet to literally every member. She just mentioned MC because they're Pekora's signature streams and she wants to show she's a good kouhai who did her homework.

[Anonymous No.]

For those interested in 2-views
Cyberlive Gen 2 debuts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDVZZ3amzZw

[Anonymous No.]

>>14420179
Kronii: None
Mumei: After Ame's reveal
Bae: Half day later
Fauna: Member only, on going
Sana: Member only, finished

[Anonymous No.]

>>14420294
>NoeFure
>MiComet
>Polka with no one...
It's not gonna be good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14420182
yea, with matsuri, knowing that her 3d was coming up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgMg_XQ0bFw

[Anonymous No.]

>>14420437
I'm seeing an opportunity for Nenechi to join them

[Anonymous No.]

>>14420437
flare wanted to snipe the samurai cause she says shes good at mc

[Anonymous No.]

>>14420539
bushimachi and de gozaru aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
make it happen flare!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>14420321
retard-chama, I was talking about the entire year, not just this month. But even so, it's bad how someone with 600k has more live viewers than you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14420370
Why didn't Council get their box pushing reps? Mori knows about them. HoloX knows what to do too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14420539
>>14420627
Black company headhunting practices with Shiraken! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.]

>>14420679
Matsuri could have been on Hololive's Mt Rushmore(FBK, Coco, Korone, Mel) instead of someone most people wouldn't be saddened by leaving the building.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14420679
>cant back shit with real numbers
>calls other people retards
kek