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14192297 No.14192297 [Reply] [Original]

The second HoloEN gen was a failure.
Hololive english is gradually declining and fading out of relevancy.
Westerners will get bored of Hololive and will look to new and more original content with no limitations... Indies will gradually become more popular and their creative freedom will mean they replace Hololive.
Hololive is going to run out of game permissions, and when it does people will turn to indies and vshojo to watch new games.

The tides are turning. The numbers show it. Tick tock tick tock tick tock...

>> No.14192759

>indies will replace hololive
no they wont
/thread

>> No.14193059

That's the dumbest shit i've ever heard. Stop making beatani threads.

>> No.14193461

ogey

>> No.14193501

i hope vwhorejo overtakes holoEN, but if myth ever sniffs a 3D live, its all over.

>> No.14193645

>>14192297
I actually quit Hololive a few months back.
But not my Hololive Oshi. So in a way i guess i'm still a part of it? I just don't care about the company and the rest.

>> No.14193821

>Hololive is going to run out of game permissions,
I actually worry about this sometimes

>> No.14193874

>>14192297
Indies will never be popular. They all seek to join corporations because being an indie with no safety net, no legal representation, and no clout fucking sucks. Beatani would cut off her own tits to join Hololive.

>> No.14193936

>>14193874
>Beatani would cut off her own tits to join Hololive.
She has literally gone on record saying she will never join a corp. Fuck off.

>> No.14193967

>>14192297
>creative freedom

so collabs with males and sexual topics?
Well I guess some chuubas try to appeal to faggots HERE but pippa is not technically an indie. Anyway creative freedom is largely a meme and Vtubers that don't have a team like their genmates struggle to create something interesting in comparison to corporate Vtubers even Kson spoke about it.

>> No.14194003
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14194003

Can you make entertaining bait threads not whatever the fuck that was?

>> No.14194005
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14194005

>beatani is now big enough for bait threads
s-sugoi...

>> No.14194035

>>14193936
I mean her chances are close to 0 to join a good one at this point so it's kind of meaningless

>> No.14194044
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14194044

well we already know what beatani does with her creative freedom

>> No.14194071

>>14194044
Based?

>> No.14194093

>>14194044
BASED

>> No.14194142

>>14194044
But this is based?

>> No.14194219
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>>14194044
>Why? Because I told them to do so

>> No.14194259

>>14194044
Unfathomably based, guess I'm a dad now.

>> No.14194272

>>14193936
>She has literally gone on record saying she will never join a corp
How do you even manage to live when you're this gullible, Anon? If Hololive or even Nijisanji gave her a job offer today she'd be working for them tomorrow.

>> No.14194315

>>14194272
Cope. She values her creative freedom more than a corpo does, money isnt everything

>> No.14194329

>>14194272
Is this what holobronies actually believe?

>> No.14194375

>>14194044
Fuck off Beatani give me back my cum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiJQ1HdIj30

>> No.14194652

>>14194315
Well I guess it would be hard if your main shtick is pandering to 4chan schizos, I'm pretty sure holomem are actually forbidden from talking about us directly...

>> No.14194758

>>14194315
>She values her creative freedom
She'd trade it in a millisecond for the benefits of joining a corporation. Besides, she's a massive attention whore. And any attention whore who tells you she values "creative freedom" over getting more attention is lying to your face.

>> No.14194794

>>14194758
>benefits of joining a corporation
there are none. watch her pippa collab

>> No.14194909

>>14194758
That's right your oshi joined corpo because she's a massive attention whore and doesn't value creative freedom.

>> No.14194921

>>14194758
kson did that right?

>> No.14195038

>>14194794
There are pleanty if you join a big group with their own connections and stuff.

>>14194921
well yes she growed her fanbase more than 10 times while in holo

>> No.14195142

>>14194921
That one got bullied into graduating by Cover's management.

>> No.14195418

>>14194794
>there are none
Yeah, who needs corporate representation and protection? It's cool to be a helpless indie at the complete mercy of Twitch and Jewtube who can't afford legal funds and has to rely solely on self-promotion.

>>14194909
>implying my oshi is a massive attention whore
Nice projection you got there, Anon.

>>14194921
>kson did that right?
Kson is a funny example. What happened after she left Hololive and gained that magical creative freedom? Her creativity plunged right off a cliff. Coco streams were far more creative than Kson streams are.

>> No.14195419

>>14195038
>can't play games you want because you have to ask for permissions
>can't talk about anything you want because you have to protect the company image
>have to use a shitty model and rig provided by the company (beatani made her own)
>can't collab with anyone outside of your own company
the only "benefit" is leeching off the company name for shitty viewers who are mostly literal children and third worlders. Why the fuck would anyone want that?

>> No.14195513

Lot of indie copium going n here. Make'em corpo if you care about their popularity or something.

>> No.14195519

>>14195418
legal funds for what, fuckface?

>> No.14195685
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14195685

*goes corpo*
see ya, suckers.

>> No.14195957

>>14195419
>Content gets wrongfully DMCA'd
>You're fucked because you're only some indie
>Channels gets wrongfully banned and deleted
>You're fucked because you're only some indie
>Get stalked and harassed in real life
>You're fucked because you're only some indie
>Watch corporate vtubers land great sponsorships and get great merch and gain thousands of subs every week
>You're fucked because you're only some indie
>Tell your small audience you never wanted to be a corporate vtuber anyway
>They're stupid enough to believe it
>Being an indie finally pays off
lmao

>> No.14196004

>>14195957
wow you just made up all that shit and none of it is true. you don't need a corpo for literally any of that dumb shit

>> No.14196241

>>14196004
>How do I say I don't watch indies without saying it
Fucking actually watch them, faggot. Then maybe at least you'll know a sliver of issues they face.

>> No.14196264

>>14196241
have you considered just not lying?

>> No.14196351

>>14196004
Be careful, Anon. Too much copium is bad for your health.

>> No.14196406

>>14196351
Nobody cares what you think, holobrony

>> No.14196426

>>14195957
Remember when mio almost lost everything because cover couldn't handle copyrights worth shit? How about when aloe quit hololive because of irl death threats? I doubt you do because you're a dumbass that doesn't watch streams. There are no guarantees even in the biggest Corp in vtubing

>> No.14196445

>>14196264
Okay, real talk. You ARE aware that, at least, getting DMCA'd has been a real problem for streamers? This shit has struck even corpos chuubas with permission, let alone indies.

A couple of indies I watch nearly got their accounts banned these past few months alone.

>> No.14196474

>>14195957
>twitter gets rightfully banned
Bea...
>channel gets rightfully banned
Bea...
>get stalked and harssed IRL
Sex...

>> No.14196503

>>14196445
getting DMCA strikes is always a problem, it doesn't matter if you're indie or corpo. Being a corpo does nothing for you

>> No.14196571

>>14193936
Sour grapes

>> No.14196577

I'm kicking your ass for making this thread TWAIN, you better watch out.

>> No.14196645

>>14195418
cocos streams were seen as creative because of the restrictions not because they were creative in actuality , there was nothing new in importing and packaging pewdiepies meme review for a japanese audience with a twist.
Asacoco morning news maybe.
But still, these things were revolutionary and creative because of the boundaries, not because they are inherently original .That’s why any other chuuba doing news inset seen as creative like Falseeyed or Japanese keemstar

>> No.14196747

>>14196503
Well yeah, but if you do get banned, corpos can handle that shit by going directly to YT's/Twitch's management, like Hololive and Nijisanji have done many times before. Indies? Might as well cry themselves to fucking oblivion because there's nothing they can do to get their accounts back.

>> No.14196779

>>14196406
Your salt only makes my cock harder

>>14196426
That was a wakeup call for Cover. Now they can handle copyrights, overturn DMCA claims, and get channels unbanned without breaking a sweat. Every indie vtuber would kill for that level of protection.

>> No.14196839

>>14196747
Even if you're an indie, you can still appeal things and put pressure through twitter. Getting randomly banned is like a one in a million chance anyway, it's not something you really need to worry about.

>> No.14196978

I wonder how Beatanifags feel knowing that if she had any amount of Japanese audience, she would have never given the slightest shit about them? Poor girl has to go for the literal fucking dregs of the dregs.

>> No.14197036

>>14196978
Celery stalks...

>> No.14197098

>>14196779
If by handle copyrights and overturn DMCA claims you mean only let vtubers play Minecraft?

>> No.14197242

>>14196645
Coco did shit like yank out her own pubes live on stream. Kson chats, plays the same games everyone else does, and builds model kits. Her content is still good but it's uncreative as fuck after winning her creative freedom.

>> No.14197440

>>14196839
>One in a million chance
Oh, so you're actually speaking out of your ass this entire time. Now I know I'm just wasting my time

>> No.14197453
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>>14197098
>He doesn't know how much shit Holos have faced from Jewtube
>He doesn't realize they choose what to stream
>He thinks they only play Minecraft
Look at him and laugh

>> No.14197597

>>14197453
They've moved on to flavor of the month Pokemon for the time being, 90% of those vods are pokemon shit. And then it'll be back to 90% Minecraft. Congrats, you played yourself

>> No.14197653

>>14197440
You were wasting everyone's time by existing, kindly correct that

>> No.14197757

>>14197242
why is yanking pubes out revolutionary ?
because of the restrictions.

>> No.14198274

>>14195418
>creative freedom
When will you stop repeating this "creative freedom" meme... you fucking retards, so tiresome.

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>>14197597
>90% of those vods are pokemon shit
>10 out of 20 vods are Pokemon
>and then it'll be back to 90% Minecraft
>5 out of 20 vods before that are Minecraft
>90%
I think you have a learning disability, Anon.

>> No.14198573

>>14198458
>spend 3+ hours in every pokemon and minecraft vod
>spend 1 hour in every other game
sure, I have the learning disability. just admit your corpo whores are just boring advertisements for games

>> No.14199406

>>14192297
Still not watching your shitty 2view

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