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Liver killer Edition

>> No.13983742

Previously >>13968957

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>> No.13983783

>>13981419
>highest profile
Gura almost got beat by Finana in the final stages rumao. Highest profile my ass

>>13980069
>Chumpedo coping that their memeshart was only invited once while Nijis are always special guests for these mega collabs
You love to see it

>> No.13983838

>>13983783
COPE and SEETHE MORE NIJIFAG

>> No.13983850

>13983783
You don't really get this much seething from another thread. Literally rent-free.

>> No.13983893
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>13983783

>> No.13983929
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>3k
what happened?

>> No.13983953
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be fierce OP, it doesnt matter if there ends up being two threads - it matters that you acted.
be fierce

>> No.13983963

>>13983929
>2 lamy

>> No.13984014
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>> No.13984035

>>13983929
capeshit game debuf

>> No.13984037

>>13983929
>what happened?
It's a shill game, that's why

Meanwhile Selen's supposed Big Stream that'll make NijiEN inline lmao
>Only 5.4k eventhough she have no overlaps with other nijiEN

>> No.13984057

>>13984037
>35 seconds

>> No.13984116

Gotg is a huge debuff game, i remember korone and subaru getting pretty low numbers on them. I was wondering if it would get better numbers for the en side since it is capeshit but i guess not lol.

>> No.13984170

>>13983929
So, this is the power of the strongest vtuber...lol

>> No.13984199

>>13984057
What kind of crack are you smoking? It's 35mins idiot

>> No.13984210

>>13984057
Anon, your reading reps......

>> No.13984285

Lamy is at 11k. Why. She usually has 6-8k during this hour.

>> No.13984288

>selen liveviews beating Ame and Fauna

She really is inclining and hololive really is reclining.

>> No.13984308

>>13983929
>marvels guardians of the galaxy
shit game everybody else dropped after the sponsor

>> No.13984359

>>13984285

Iroha shilled her stream before ending hers

>> No.13984381

>>13984288
Selen is the face of Western Vtubing rn. Hololive btfo

>> No.13984393

>>13984037
Ame is not a shill stream

>> No.13984395

>13984288
Might as well say that NijiKR inclined to the moon because of Bora's graduation stream
One time streams won't do jack shit if they're unable to keep viewers in the future

>> No.13984450

>>13984393
>cookie kingdom

>> No.13984457

>>13984381
>Selenschizo.
How long has this new schizo been here?

>> No.13984486

>>13984288
>>13984381
>>13984288
Ame is playing a shill game
Fauna peaked at 7950 CCV.

Meanwhile selenshit needs big events get numbers like this (which most HoloEN can easily get with normal streams)

Stop being delusional, your oshi is still irrelevant.

>> No.13984508

>>13983929
Green lamy needs to step up. Blue lamy's doing all the work and she does not even pander to EOPs. How will they beat Gura at these rate.

>> No.13984524

>>13984457
>new
How new?
Also stop giving them names holy fucking shit

>> No.13984541

>100k tournament

That is like just 2k more than her usual apex streams.

>> No.13984543

>>13984450
It's Gotg. What are you on about.

>> No.13984580

>>13984524
Anon. We always name the new schizo here.

>> No.13984635

>>13984381
It's like collabing with outsiders regularly expands the audience. While a bubble will eventually pop.
>>13984486
I dunno, she regularly collabs with the largest streamers. Perhaps this numbers thread is just looking at numbers when they affirm confirmation bias.

>> No.13984666

>>13984486
Why do you keep saying it's a shill game? I'm currently watching her play Gotg. It's not sponsored

>> No.13984699

>>13984381
HAAHAHHHAH HOLY DELUSIONS

>>13984288
6k in a supposed big event and mid the fact that she don't have any overlaps?
ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING

>>13984635
That's even worse since her median and average can't still beat Sana even with these advantages.

>> No.13984703

>13984635
not even worth a [you]

>> No.13984720

>>13984486
>>13984635
Big numbers >small numbers
Face the facts faggots, your Holowhores are irrelevant while NijiEN is inclining

>> No.13984739

>>13984580
Only a handful, the trend of naming new schizos only started around 3 weeks ago which is pure stupidity
Just because a random faggot decides to use another mean to bait doesn't mean you have to slap a name on top of him
It'll only give them more attention and more motivation to bait
>13984635
>regularly expa
Like the last few times she collabed with big names.
>bubble
He said, half a year ago, right now, and 2 years later

>> No.13984766

>>13984486
Is not the collab itself. It is the big 100000 $ in the title.
Sh has collabed before with ion and the other dude

>> No.13984788
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>>13984720
>face it

>> No.13984798

What are some buff games for the en side? I feel like for both nijien and holoen, there is not a lot of games that are good buffs unless they do some gimmicks. EN viewers feel far more picky.

>> No.13984808

Maybe Selen can get 3k median this month?

>> No.13984841

>>13984666
Holo jp got paid to play it. Each consecutive playtrough git less and less.
I belive koronw couldnt even break 10k

>> No.13984850

Selen will beat Sana in December. I bet 100 bucks.

>> No.13984857

>>13984739
Nah. They are so distinct and predictable we already have a list of cope. It's not just 1 dude. It depends on who is "winning"

>> No.13984867

>>13984395
>being so upset you didn't even give me a (You)

Being a faggot is unbecoming. Nijien has been around less than half the time Holoen has been around, the fact they're steadily inclining is basically undeniable now regardless of how much you feel like it's eating away at your "team", you retard.

>> No.13984887

>13984635
Lol Bubble Burst cope again?
>HoloJP mogs NijiJP
>Gen 6 comes in and even put more nails in NijiJP's coffin
>HoloEN still so out of reach for Midgets NijiEN
>NijIKR Ace graduated

Nijifags i pity you

>>13984720
Ok
Fauna (peaked at 7950) > Selen (currently 6271)
Gura (currently 19k)

*mind the fact that selenshit is streaming alone in the timeslot while there's 3 overlapping holoen and 1 holojp

>> No.13984897

>>13984841
And? Ame is not being paid to play it. It's not a shill game for her. It's just a regular game.

>> No.13984958

>>13984857
>list of cope
I made that cope list, anon, and it was 2 months old.
>13984867
>g-give me a (You)!
You're the faggot kek.
>steadily inclining
If you exclude wave 3, am I right?

>> No.13984986

>>13983783
>Gura almost got beat by Finana in the final stages rumao
Nigger do you just invent things in your brain to claim?

>> No.13984990

>>13984703
>>13984739
N-nyo my numbers save space is being contaminated. You fucking faggots, why don't figure out how much Kronii's absence caused Council? Figure out how much larger Gura would be if she'd just maintained a regular schedule? Why not, because numbers became a save space for Holofags in all but name while it was convent. I can't wait until b-but Cover is an indie company, they get good nummbers time loop comes back. Go back your regularly scheduled circlejerk fags, I'm sure Council will recover eventually.
>>13984887
6669

>> No.13985013

>>13984798
Minecraft.

>> No.13985059
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>comeback stream
>GTAV
>EN prime time
>almost no overlap
>under 20k
What are the excuses this time?

>> No.13985056

>>13984990
You said a lot of nothing.

>> No.13985068

>>13984990
Nijiseethe.

>> No.13985069

What’s with the holobronie cope today?

>> No.13985074

>>13984798
Minecraft if they actually play onthe server.
Anything vs anither holo. Ollie got 10k with her match against kronii.
But the buggest problem is draggin a series across weeks. Holos can still get away with it but nijien cant
Even finan is dipping sub1k for yakuza0.

>> No.13985095

>>13984990
>schedule
>save space
Are you still speaking English? Do you realize that you're not replying to anything in actuality?

>> No.13985114

is there a clip/archive of wamy crying over the supacha from a few days ago?

>> No.13985117

>>13985059
Schedule is the single most important thing for EN, how many times do we need to do go through this loop?

>> No.13985133

>>13985059
I don't think EN has ever had any boosts from "come back" streams other than Kiara's redebuts.

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>>13985059
losing to gaypex wwwwwwww

>> No.13985158

>>13985069
I see 1 dude that keeps tagging a regular gameplay as a shill game to justfiy the low numbers. Another dude hyper inflating Selen. Meh.

>> No.13985160

>>13984897
That is just semantics. Is a terrible streming game that most wont play unless they pay you.

>> No.13985164

>>13983929
I watch Ame regularly and that capeshit game was a hard pass. I'm guessing she doesn't give a shit about the low numbers though because she probably has around 15k subscribers.

>> No.13985197

>>13985133
Sana a month ago.

>> No.13985231

>>13985133
Sana got decent numbers. If she did a karaoke she probably would have gotten better numbers

>> No.13985243

>>13985164
memberships, not subscribers

>> No.13985246

2021 was marine/pekos year
2022 will be orca/cunnys year?

>> No.13985257

>>13985059
She put the frame and tweet one hour before stream and started 1hr earlier than her usual time. She will get her 20k+

>> No.13985259

Are selenposters the worst posters now? They are in every fucking bait threads, gura posters are mostly gura killers and loli posts.

>> No.13985321

>>13985160
It's called a debuff game. A shill game can get good numbers.

>> No.13985323

VShojofags are superior than nijiniggers despite having 5-9k regular ccv, it's pretty common so they don't brag

>> No.13985339

>>13985257
What do you mean? This is gura's usual timeslot.

>> No.13985382

>>13985117
I don't really get this difference between EN and JP. Why can JPs just have a "I might stream around this time" and it just works

>> No.13985384

>>13984887
>Fauna
>380k subs
>only 7950
>Gura
>3.63 mil sub
>only 19k
RUMAO, THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF HOLOFAGGOTS. Your whores are bleeding viewerships and hoarding dead subs while Nijis are inclining and keep getting invited to large collabs
Stay coping and seething faggots

>> No.13985396

You give them an inch, they'll take 50 miles...

>> No.13985422

>>13985321
>a shill game can get good numbers
Which usually doesnt happen.
But again this is arging semantics is just a bad streming game. Is like looking at selenw coloring game stream

>> No.13985424

>>13985246
Orca and La+ will rule the holo meta

>> No.13985467

>>13985339
Started 1hr earlier

>> No.13985502

>>13985143
salta-san inclining

>> No.13985509

Lamy hitting 11k in her usual morning slot should suggest that the increased interest is from gen 6 debuts is primarily from JP tourists this time around.

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Need a graph fags?

>> No.13985572

>>13985422
Kronii, Mumei, Bae, Gura, Ame with Gura and lately Marine all had great numbers with Shill games. AGAIN. This game is really just a debuff game. You can't call it shill and shrug that it's getting bad numbers.

>> No.13985772

>>13985509
Nah. Iroha just send them there and also a lot of pitty comments since her menhera meltdown

>> No.13985778

>>13983929
Competition + debuff game

>> No.13985808

>>13985509
What are the chances that some of Niji's audience is watching Holo streams with Gen 6's debuts?

>> No.13985829

>>13985572
>debuff game cope
Just say that over-all interest in Holos are declining. Otherwise, why do you faggots make it seem like Holos are the only ones whose numbers get hit by "debuff game" yet Nijis keep inclining whatever game they play

>> No.13985845

>>13985509
Iroha asked her viewers to watch Lamy

>> No.13985871

>>13985778
>Competition
Can't compete

>> No.13985913

>>13983929
>Actually really fun game
Even ame knowa it is awful to stream but then again it is the only cape shit she likes

>> No.13985932

>>13985382
Because...the japanese are all awake at that hour. They're all in one fucking time zone. HoloEN isn't HoloUSA, their viewers have to make a conscious decision whether to make time for watching a stream or do something else. Hell it's 4 in the morning for me atm.
It's also why there's so many VOD views compared to live views.
One day, people will learn to stop comparing apples to oranges.

>> No.13985954

>>13985772
>>13985845
>EOPs understanding what Iroha said and going over to watch a full Japanese zatsudan
>when Gura is streaming
Please

>> No.13985996

>>13985829
>keep inclining
Bitch ***where***? literally everyone other than HoloJP has had their numbers either barely holding on or reclining over the last 3 months

>> No.13986007

>>13985829
What are you on about. Supply actual numbers. If I don't fucking see an actual incline in a month to month basis with no CCV decrease no matter what stream for all NijiEN chuubas then I say you are a fucking monkey.

>> No.13986062

>>13985954
Rumao, EOPs would rather watch an actual entertaining chuuba they don't understand than watch the boring memeshart.

>> No.13986081

>>13983929
beat gura 1st before you start acting almighty nijikeks

>> No.13986116

This thread is just 99% bait posts. Do you fags even post numbers?

>> No.13986167

>>13985509
It's because the subject
She talks about meeting other holos
Choco, Luna, Uimama, Rushia, Suisei, Noel

>> No.13986197

>>13986081
No beat Fauna first, she peaked at 7950 on a normal stream while Selenshit event stream on an uncontested slot still fails to even meet the 7k quota.

>>13986116
We do post numbers but Nijifags are on full cope mode so they would rather post baits and delusions

>> No.13986292

NijiEN has 9.6k viewers combined right now.

>> No.13986322

>>13986116
Burger hours there's usually no numbers around this time.

>> No.13986347

Wamy is doing well today, I think it could've been better if it was a Zelda stream

>> No.13986390

>>13986292
Where'd you get that number? They only have 7.3 combined viewers right now.

>> No.13986406

>>13986347
she was never doing worse anyway

>> No.13986413

You know I wished Gura played Minecraft today and get like 25k. Ludwig had tendencies to visit other streams, he might react to her channel.

>> No.13986419

>>13986292
is this the day they break 10k?

>> No.13986463

>>13986197
>Fauna
>7950 CCV/380k subs = 2% active viewership
>Gura
>19k/3.63mil = 0.5%

>Selen
>6k/194k = 3% active viewership
RUMAO, YOUR WHORES ARE GETTING MOGGED TO THE FUCKING GROUND BY SELEN
MOST POPULAR VTUBING COMPANY BTW, MOST 1 MIL SUBS VTUBER COMPANY BTW

>> No.13986523

It is funny that thanks to rpc and ipn, bith males, nijien has a chance to have more than 10k. Viewers
Kinda like how the view record is hold by the mario parry collab with niji jp

>> No.13986549

>>13986292
>pink cat alone has more viewers than nijiEN combined
OH NONONO

>> No.13986557

>>13986463
lol
Come back when she actually beat the numbers
Also wipe your tears, it's embarassing

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>> No.13986562

>>13983929
It's such a dogshit fucking game, luv ame but this shit is a drag

>> No.13986607
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12m soon

>> No.13986629

>>13986463
7950>6000
19000>6000

Not sure what point you are trying to make.

>> No.13986640

>one Japanese blue elf just talking casually mogs the entirety of Nijisanji's EN branch trying their best
I guess the EN market really isn't big enough to accommodate anything more than holoEN...

>> No.13986658

>>13986562
I wonder if it would be better if she didn't have to play in streamer mode so at least we could get some jams

>> No.13986671

>>13986629
Please understand that nijifags will do anything just to score a "win"

They're desperate for it.

>> No.13986686

>>13986561
Literally a full branch collab + selene+rpc+ipn
To finally beeak 10k
Brqvo

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10k

>> No.13986690

>>13986292
they're gonna break it!!

>> No.13986717

>talk in all caps
lmao
the creature is fuming

>> No.13986740

>>13986688
that’s fake

>> No.13986744

>>13986640
>can't accomodate anything more than HoloEN
>HoloEN is bleeding viewerships to NijiEN and VShojo
Rumao, the absolute state of Holofaggots

>> No.13986794

>>13986561
It really seems like NijiEN does collab streams every day.

>> No.13986795
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13986795

NijiEN got their simultaneous streaming record just now.
Finally breaking 10k

They're setting a lot of these recently

>> No.13986806

I checked the 20-minute of Chloe's Radio Station, what a weird stream to reach 74k

>> No.13986807
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Nijiniggers will gladly place their vtubers as the second worst just to beat the other company. 2views are beating Nijiniggers' pride metrics, but they won't mention them. They care more about their brand than their livers. Sasuga nijiniggers.

>> No.13986811

>>13986688
OH NO OH NO OH NO HOLOBROS?
I THOUGHT NIJI ONLY HAD A 8k MARKET CAP???

>> No.13986860

>>13986744
I'm sure AnyColor would love for NijiEN to eventually bleed out HoloEN in 10 years while they're getting snuffed out by HoloJP in the domestic market in another 2 or 3 years....

>> No.13986863

>>13986795
Nijien + Rpc
Looks like males keep breaking record on nijien side

>> No.13986868

>>13986807
kek

>> No.13986888

>>13986811
Stop making me actually feel bad for Nijifans cause this falseflagging is just depressing

>> No.13986893
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>>13986795
full branch, congrats for breaking 10k

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>>13986688
>>13986795
Omedeto!

>> No.13986915

>>13986795
It's a collab outside Nijisanji tho. It doesn't count.

>> No.13986919

>>13986795
THEY'RE INCLINING HARD won't be long till they hit HoloEN numbers

>> No.13986929

>>13986898
Kek

>> No.13986956

>>13986919
They already are in terms of superchats

>> No.13986974

>>13986463
Ratioschizo

>> No.13986985

>>13986795
>>13986794
They really deserve praise for breaking past their 8k ceiling.

>>13986811
>>13986744
Took them long enough, you fags sure do talk big.

>>13986919
Come on dude, don't be delusional

>> No.13986986

>>13986915
I say it counts as much as petra record
Just need to thank rpc and ipn for breaking nijien record everytime it is reminded

>> No.13987002

10.5k. Today is a day when everything changes. Remember this day.

>> No.13987022
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Oh no no no, nijiniggers! 15% ratio! How can we compete?

>> No.13987033

Holocope is fucking hilarious at this point. Never thought I’d see the day where the nijiniggers get the last laugh over holobronies

>> No.13987035

>>13986956
>224k vs 145k
>”They already are”
Ask me how I know you skipped your math rep

>> No.13987037

Nijifriend is getting a bit too excited, but let's be honest Council and some girls in myth as well should wake the fuck up

>> No.13987054

>>13986893
Danchou is my favorite HoloEN.

>> No.13987081

Keep this 10k cap for a week and I'll believe your slow and steady shit.
You're still far, far away from taking HoloEN down though kek

>> No.13987085

>>13986986
Those viewers aren't permanent. We need to see streams without outside influence to conclusively say they've broken through 7k.

>> No.13987128

>>13987037
Just like history has proven, ore often than not, giants fall because of themselves. HoloEN is killing their own audience, and NijiEN has clearly been raising. Tick tock tick tock

>> No.13987141

>>13987033
What do you mean? Nijishit is still far from getting close to holoEN.

>>13987002
I'm gonna grudgepost this if they can't get 10k again in the next days.

>> No.13987164

>>13986893
>imagine having to add all numbers just to beat Niji
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF HOLOFAGGOTS RUMAO

>> No.13987195

>>13987054
anyone that streams on EN hours are part of EN branch

>> No.13987221

>>13987037
>Council
>waking up
yeah no, they'll take more break on this holiday season

>> No.13987227

Guys, don't forget that 10k is combined CCV...

>> No.13987251

>Nijisanji EN
>10500 CCV/1184k subs = 0.8% active viewership
oh nyo

>> No.13987263

>>13987164
>>13986688
>>13986292
? >>13986795

>> No.13987284

>>13987227
it's the only metric they can "win"

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>>13984990

>> No.13987325

Ok next target nijisisters at least one streamer in 3k median.

>> No.13987330

>>13987141
It’s been proven that hololiveENhas been on a slow recline while nijiEN is slowly but surely inclining.

HoloJp still kicks nijiJPs ass though and fags who still deny that holo is now popular in jp are coping

>> No.13987349

>>13987284
Don't forget ratio

>> No.13987371

>13987330
>It’s been proven that hololiveENhas been on a slow recline while nijiEN is slowly but surely inclining.
anyone has the graph

>> No.13987374

>>13987128
NijiEN's rising is still too slow and still mostly thanks to collabs and events.
But it's true that if HoloEN continues to be lazy then they'll fall eventually.

>> No.13987414

>>13987227
With a 100000$ tournament as an attraction, its like hal with his vtuber tournament which will likely attract some tourists

>> No.13987426

Some Holobronies were saying few days ago that HoloJP managed to beat NijiJP because they reached out to other markets, and how globalism beats isolationism.
Isn’t it irony that that is exactly how NijiEN is going to beat the isolated HoloEN and you fags are trying to cope really hard again it? True, it’s male. It’s rpc. So what? They are clearly still attracting new viewers attention, and even if only 5-10% of them remain, it will still be a step forward. Enjoy staying with a stale and stagnant fanbase, holobronies

>> No.13987427

>>13987284
win against who, Sony? i don't think there's a single Holo talent who hasn't at least had higher than that on their own. Maybe one of the Stars?

>> No.13987429

>>13985829
Somebody get the chart for sister here please

>> No.13987522

Kek nijENfags came out of hell because they nitpick a day, you love to see it, once a month

>> No.13987543

long cope

>> No.13987542

>>13986322
Are burgers and seanigs the same speciment? I swear to god they know nothing but trashin, just like their food and water

>> No.13987566

>>13987002
>>13986893
>They broke the 10k simultanous ccv
eventhough it's due to collab with ipn and rpc, I'll give you guys that since it's still an good achievement

>>13985829
Bro the chart says otherwise and you can't reason "if you remove Ethyria" because their part of NijiEN.

>> No.13987577

>>13987426
HoloJP is chock full of unicorns. Their flagship Pekora will literally never collab with a male in her life.
No one has ever said that holoJP is winning because it's super open, it clearly isn't.

>> No.13987585

>>13987426
You can't even get rpr name correct, go back to the nijicord faggot.

>> No.13987588
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> 3% active viewers!

Nijiniggers, here comes the next Selen! Better watch out!

>> No.13987617

>>13986116
I for one have no have lost interest in sharing numbers, current /vt/ is a trainwreck so there's no much point, and it has been for the last two months, so it's not even because of JP06. Come back in a few months maybe, or do your own work.

>> No.13987628

>>13987588
the true nijikiller

>> No.13987636

>>13987588
oh no no no no nijien mogged

>> No.13987672

>>13985829
>Just say that over-all interest in Holos are declining
Have you seen Pekora's numbers this month? Subaru's? Miko's? Marine's? HoloX? How can someone be deluded to this point. Even fucking Lamy inclined hard this month.

>> No.13987671

>>13987617
kuzuha/apex recline really ruined the numbers thread...

>> No.13987682

>>13987577

>No one has ever said that holoJP is winning because it's super open, it clearly isn't.

Did 10k simultanous ccv got you this delusional? holy shit

>> No.13987692

WHO THE FUCK IS RPC? THIS RPC SHIT KEEP REPEATED ON THESE NIJIEN POST ITT

>> No.13987724
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>NijiEN finally achieved 10k meanwhile on the jp side...
midnight time...

>> No.13987790

>>13987724
guess it's time to change the main branch to niji en

>> No.13987869

>>13987692
you mean rpr? he's a pro Apex player, knows Imperial Hal too (one of the top streamers for Apex)

>> No.13987920

>>13987588
Jesas is this the strongest Vtuber?

>> No.13987954

Why are nijisanji en braging about total 10k cv like it is an big deal while nyanners for vshojo and gura for hololive are beating that go back to corner nijifags.

>> No.13987972

>>13987588
SELENKEKS ON SUICIDE WATC!!!!

>> No.13987990

>>13987692
Towa's fan who might be switching to Niji going by his collabs recently, just like many other Holo fans

>> No.13988020
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13988020

WHO WOULD WIN

A BALD BAIT, or $100000000

>> No.13988021

Total branch CCV is a new one to be proud about lmao. Guess you have to invent new metrics like the ratio/total to feel good about yourself.

>> No.13988035

>>13987990
Don't be stupid. Only Towa benefited from RPR's collab.
No one else did.

>> No.13988059

>>13988021
we've always talked about total branch CCV here faggot.

>> No.13988105

this thread is 90% falseflags and baits. can you guys turn it down?
i came here to discuss numbers, not play a bait discerning game.

>> No.13988107

>>13988035
It's the other way around anon... RPR benefits from towa collabo

>> No.13988122

>>13988020
bald buff, doesn't count

>> No.13988124

>>13988020
Iroha Ring Fit degozaru

>> No.13988139

>>13988035
That's wrong, RPR benefited far more than Towa or anyone else from being seen as a kenzoku. He went from being a 2-view to pulling 4 digits.

>> No.13988151

>>13988020
eveyone knows being bald is a bbuff

>> No.13988153

>>13987990
Rpr's new oshi will be Selen and Selen will be inclining hard after this

>> No.13988162

>>13987954
Well it's still an achievement since it's the first time NijIEN got it. And they do deserve praise and mention.
But shitposting this much because of it is idiotic.

>> No.13988163

>>13988105
Just let the nijisister get their win anon.. they've been taking too much L recently

>> No.13988208

>>13988105
>not play a bait discerning game
It is that game everytime in 4chan

>> No.13988210

>>13988153
PFFFF HAHAHAHAHA
yeah sure just look at IPN
is not the first RPr collab the only reason this one got attention is becasue the 100000 prizepool

>> No.13988258

>>13988163
what did they win btw?

>> No.13988284

Selen’s team is the second place, I thought you guys said she is a bad gamer?

>> No.13988308

>>13988153
only a nijinigger would want a fat chink as his oshi

>> No.13988331

>>13988258
broke a total branch CCV milestone by hitting 10k simultaneously

>> No.13988335

>>13988139
And guess what holofag he on team nijisanji now along side with the rest of your allies. You guys always end up pump and dump first walfie, mamaloni, clippers, and now rpr. Is there any fan you guys have not lost cause it does not look like it.

>> No.13988362

>>13988284
Rpr carried her THAT hard ?

>> No.13988371

>>13988107
Mutual buff. RPR got 8k more and Towa 15k more for their usual numbers.
>13988153
Impress him in Apex first, oh wait she can't and it's too late
wwwwwwwwwwwww

>> No.13988372

>>13986658
What is streamer mode for this? dmca?

>> No.13988375

>>13988284
this is not the fps thread

>> No.13988397

>>13987251
Is holoen 0.01% then?

>> No.13988435

>>13988372
yeah, skips some scenes and mutes most of the music

>> No.13988448

Disguisedtoast should host a 10million tourney to help nijien incline.

Non shitpost aside, 100k pricepool is minor tier prizepool for esports so it is bound to attract tourists.

>> No.13988455

Selen numbers gonna funel to the collab right guys?

>> No.13988483

>>13988372
Yeah, streamer mode removes all Music and replaces them with copyright free ones

>> No.13988514

En vtuber scene is dead. Gura struggle to get 20k, niji fucks happy 10k combine views lmao and ame 3k right now. Talking lamy got 11k.

>> No.13988638

>>13988335
I just checked them right now.
>Mamaloni
Her last posts this November are all about Kiara and Kson tho. Not Nijis
>Walfie
I did saw 1 selen but still mostly Holos
>Rpr
Claim him when he's been collabing continuously.
>Clippers
AHAHAHAHAHHA you serious?

Feel free to correct me on Mamaloni and Walfie since i only checked their tweets.

>> No.13988642

>>13988514
>Gura struggle to get 20k
at least she beat Iroha Ringfit peak

>> No.13988644

>>13987672
Yeah only EN is declining. JP is still improving month by month.

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>> No.13988708

>>13988657
how does this guardians game generate enough churn to hit that number with 3k ccv

>> No.13988711

>>13988657
s-sugoi

>> No.13988725

>>13988448
isnt 100k for 1st place really good?

>> No.13988751

This is not the /holonumbers/ or the /nijinumbers/ thread.
Faggots from both sides better off themselves and let the rest that care about numbers discuss in peace.

>> No.13988755

>>13988708
tourists/normiefags

>> No.13988762
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finally got 20k about two hours in, around the time Fauna ended her stream and Mori/Ina start theirs

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>>13988397
Damn, look at these 2views, bro! They are beating HoloEN and NijiEN! What's their secrets? Nijiniggers are desperate to see their girls winning, right? They should learn from these 2views. Clearly they are doing something right according to the nijiniggers cope formula.

>> No.13988780

>>13988708
People come, watch a depressed person playing some shitty game for a minute, like the stream to support and then close it.

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>13988335
You can only claim RPR when he removes Twapper's oshi mark from his profile.
He WILL be Japanese.

>> No.13988792

>>13988284
Do u apex anon? They are the only 2 team full with pros, the other being nicewigg team. Would be embarrassing if they can't even beat other team full of non apex streamers.

>> No.13988793

>>13988708
It doesn't, that site pulls numbers out of its ass to facilitate Holocope

>> No.13988802

>>13988657
kek
people checking out for a minute, then fuck off?

>> No.13988810

>>13988644
I feel clippers unironically will kill vtubers CCV. Not everyone can have a time to watch streams and they probably only watch clips

>> No.13988824

>>13988751
Shut up bitch, fuck off and make /2view#/

>> No.13988831

>>13988793
sad nijicope

>> No.13988832

>>13988708
Holos have some weird problems with ccv
if you want another example check selen birthday(8hrs) and ame latest minecraft views.

>> No.13988843

>>13988657
Bad viewership retention from HoloEN, who would've thought?

>> No.13988857

>>13988657
Answer is simple: Ame fans come in, stay for a bit, leave a like maybe, and leave because the game's a dogshit viewing experience.
I'll admit though, Selen has good viewer retention and low viewer churn, but her ceiling is obviously is something that she needs to work on raising (and all of NijiEN really)

>> No.13988881

>>13988708
tourists and people that dgaf about ame or hololive
these bitches aint loyal anon

>> No.13988884

>>13988020
Selen won 3K let's see if Fauna can get 3K in superchats.

>> No.13988890

>>13988657
Proof that Holofaggots are tourists with short attention spans and get bored easily while Nijichads are loyal viewers

>> No.13988905

I see we're active tonight.

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>>13988810
Holo should have more people like Yamada who can just cut off the middle man (clippers).

>> No.13988921

>>13988762
Why do they even bother streaming during Amerifat prime time. It's obvious burgers don't watch the streams

>> No.13988933

>>13988335
>walfie, mamaloni
No idea who these people are but I'm glad hololive isn't desperate enough to pander and bend over backwards for them just to keep them happy. Better to focus on satisfying the greater fanbase than to focus on a few e-celebs.

>> No.13988934

>>13988884
half of that is for anykara

>> No.13988947

>>13988905
It's morning in SEA

>> No.13988982

>>13988762
its funny that enfags have to brag about getting 20k

>> No.13989001

>>13988762
she can barely even hit 20K playing GTA5?
holy fuck she has declined
the zero streams don't help

>> No.13989008

>>13988921
Because she's a burger and this is the best time slot for the time zone she's actually active in.

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>>13988657
>12.2k total views
>6.6k peak
>2 hours stream
pretty good tbqh

>> No.13989043

>>13988725
it's 100k prize pool anon. 1st place got 20k, Selen's team got 14k etc.

>> No.13989066

>>13988765
looks to me that you are the one copying holosister

>> No.13989068

>>13988982
Why not? NijIEN Fags are so fucking proud of breaking 10k Simultaneous CCV (due to Slen doing an event apex with rpr and ipn)

10k of full branch >>> 20k of 1 streamer?

>> No.13989078

>>13989024
nah for a big event that's are sad numbers

>> No.13989099

>>13988725
retardchama...

>> No.13989101

>>13988725
Oh 100k is for 1st place? I thought it is overall pricepool, then it is major tier tournament pricepool, better than vsaikyo and cr cup.

>> No.13989115

>>13988982
where is the bragging?

>> No.13989126

>>13988638
>Mamaloni
He/she was flamed cause of lolishota shit they did in the past (usual twitter faggotry)
>Walfie
Fucking traitor

>> No.13989147

>>13988947
More like numbers are on Niji side (well, kind of) first time in a long time so shitposters are crawling out of the woodworks

>> No.13989180

>>13989126
Artists don't have to be bloody tribalists you massive faggot.

>> No.13989194

>>13988831
It's not getting the data from Youtube

>> No.13989224

>>13989126
what did walfie do?
i guess nijisanji commisioned him?

>> No.13989264

>>13989024
>12.2k total views
that is youtube vod still dequeuing
same for ame.
The real numbers will appear in some hours
However Ame doeshave more people watching her. Just check her birthday stream against ame minecraft this week.
But ame was just getting more people with the same ccv.
>>13989043
that sounds like clickbait not gonna lie

>> No.13989265

>>13985197
>>13985231

Sana was MIA for a fucking month
Gura just did a member stream yesterday

>> No.13989269

>>13988791
Will he move to japan and marry towa?

>> No.13989278

>>13989126
>>Walfie
it's part of his work. rather, people just love to copy holoen

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>>13989180
It's funny how all the reddit immigrants think tribalism is a bad thing

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And 4500 of those 10k just fucked off when Selen ended.

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what benefits do you get for being an official music channel?

>> No.13989315

>>13989068
NijiEN can be proud of it because that's proof that they are still growing. They came late and had to start from 0. HoloEN has beaten the 20k mark long ago, the fact that you have to brag about reaching it now is rather sad

>> No.13989334

>>13989224
Nah, when NijiEN came out, he started to do NijiEn walfies too instead of just Holomyth stuff. Nothing wrong with that, he still does Holo stuff (primarily ame).

>> No.13989346

>>13989305
I guess your music gets recommended by the algorithm more often?

>> No.13989365

>>13989298
appex viewers are not loyal
kuzuha latest streams are proof of tat

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>>13989194
retard

>> No.13989390

>>13989298
Apex tourists, pls undahstand

>> No.13989414

>>13989298
7k doko?
8k doko?
9k doko?
above all, 10k doko?

>> No.13989417

>>13988921
Are you implying europeans watch the streams?

>> No.13989423

>>13989305
Youtube purges your subs less often. At least that's the advice Sora got since she applied soon after losing 10k subs.

>> No.13989430

>>13989298
Anon can’t count…

>> No.13989444

>>13989298
They're atleast hitting the 7k quota.

We'll see if nijifans claims of "the start of a new age" is actually true.

>> No.13989446

>play gta buff
>only get 20k

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>> No.13989464

>>13989287
Tribalism is fine when it's Holo vs Niji. I don't care to drag those who are on the sidelines or support staff into it like fan artists and whatnot.

>> No.13989494

>>13989446
it's sad really

>> No.13989540

>>13989464
As expected from /v/ mentality

>> No.13989551

>>13989446
>event apex
>only get 6.7k (mind that she got this while having no competition in the timeslot)

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>>13989224
>Collab stream
>everyone has a cute walfie
>petra join the stream
>realize she has no cute walfie
>walfie watching
>draws a cute walfie for petra
>all girls have a cute walfie now
>thanks walfie

>> No.13989554

>>13989334
That exactly why he helping the competition incline. He completely fucked off after council debut and then proceeds to draw nijisanji wave 2. Notice how the smol council does not exist but smol Selen does and petra.

>> No.13989565

>>13989456
okay, it's super interesting that Ame has about 40% of gura's views with like, <25% of the CCV

>> No.13989567

>>13989456
holy fuck so many tourists "watching" gura
why has the shark fallen so low all of a sudden?

>> No.13989575

Orca is doing another singing stream tonight (JST). HoloEN need to start learning from that and get their game up before they are left behind

>> No.13989583

>>13983929
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA_2Q8qAfKM

>> No.13989644

>>13989575
She'll do her english singing in EN friendly time during a weekend, she knows what she's doing

>> No.13989655

>>13989554
Who gives a shit? He's just a fan like anyone else, he can draw whatever he wants. He's not obligated to help Cover shill their vtubers

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>rusted metal to gold
La+ is smart, Valorant is a ccv killer, made it into montage instead. She work fast holy damn this chibi.

>> No.13989741

>>13989551
>chumbuds bullying a 2view nijinigger
pick someone on your own size

>> No.13989752

This feels a lot similar to Kizuna Ai's golden age back then. When she debuted, she got a lot of attention from bothbJP and EN viewers. However, as time goes on, her EN viewers gradually disappeared. A similar thing is happening with Hololive as well. Despite many buffs Cover has given to EN market like EN branch, EN merch and EN specific events, EN market is still shrinking gradually. Is it safe to say that in a few years time, we might see Holilive become mainstream icons in Japanese society at a cost of no overseas (except maybe Taiwan and SEA) presence at all?

>> No.13989754

>>13989126
I'll never forgive Walfie for betraying the 2hus

>> No.13989757

>>13989269
Nah, he'll have to go to Korean and settle for being the third wheel to Towa and Bora's lesbian sex.
>>13989180
EN artist are all unityfags, while JP artists are more "loyal".
Dunno why.

>> No.13989812

>>13989655
>draw Hololive
>suddenly get famous again
>start drawing other companies and help them incline using the goodwill he got from Holo
Definition of a leech rumao

>> No.13989811

>>13989752
The EN merch was a disaster due to thier shit distribution. Even Ame and Ina are missing stuff that they ordered nearly a year ago

>> No.13989813

>>13989655
I'm a holo-only fan and i agree wth this.
We should flame him if Cover started payign him but still accepted Anycolor's offer while on the job

>>13989575
Tomorrow (JST) she'll have 4 fucking streams.
Already as much as Mumei's schedule for the week. (well atleast she have student excuse unlike my oshi kronii)

>> No.13989856

>>13989737
She likes making montages, plus it stops clippers from leeching off of her. She also posted her extended bgm in her channel probably cause she saw one guy post it too.

>> No.13989864

>>13989346
This desu. I suddenly got lots of sora's new album (from her topic) in the reccomendation after hearing once. The whole album is very well produced and max kino desu. You can buy it here desu https://www.jvcmusic.co.jp/tokinosora/65580/?s=09

>> No.13989892

>>13989813
>I'm a holo-only fan
retard do better with falseflagging

>> No.13989894

>>13989752
Hololive jp is big in the west and asia.

>> No.13989946

>>13989864
Wow thanks anon, I'll totally spend some money and buy Tokina Sora's music based off your recommendation!

>> No.13989955

>>13989741
Back to you.
You guys are only pitting nijiEN against HolOEN who underperforms. (Mind that Ame can get numbers no NijiEN can touch) and Fauna even had higher peak and yet you shit on her.

>> No.13989970

Ina and ame 10k.

>> No.13989973

>>13989655
Of course he isn't, and he isn't obligated to help AnyKara to shill their VTubers either. That means it was his own will when he decided to stick with NijiEN instead of switching back when Council debuted. Clear proof that HoloEN has been losing fans and NijiEN has been picking them up. Have you seen any high profile fan switching from NijiEN to HoloEN?

>> No.13990025

>>13989752
They didn't gradually disappear, what are you talking about? Literally the moment clone saga happened her subscriber growth completely stopped and people stopped watching. It was a very specific event that made everybody drop her.

>> No.13990036

>>13989565
the higer the CCV for EN the more it takes to dequeue the views.
it happens also with JP, and specially for new channels.that is why you see those debuts ending with 4k views and then increasing gradually. The youtube vod is filtering and validating users so they gets added little by little.
>>13989752
Nah. Kizuna demise was becasue of spreading herelf to tin with multiple channels and she not abel to get with the times with streaming.
>>13989737
unless she plasn to do zatsus all day she need to stream something someday. I also think that would isolate herself from the holo ecosystem and proably part of the reason she slowed down and got passed by chloe.

>> No.13990041

>>13989737
will clipper clip these? kek

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>>13989575
ORCA IS HUNGRY HUNGRY

>> No.13990082

>>13989752
>EN market is still shrinking gradually.

It's not shrinking at all people are just leaving HoloEN for other groups.

>> No.13990092

>>13989973
He didn't "stick" with NijiEN, he just turned into a unityfag instead of drawing Holos only.
Are there any notable NijiEN artists to begin with?

>> No.13990112

>>13989970
Mori not ame.

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>>13989298
Updated graph to allow time for Selen viewers to funnel in.

>> No.13990128

>>13989970
Well it's not bad atleast.
It's still 2 Holos > All of NijIEN
and also Gura > All of NijiEN

Mind that Gura and Mori/ina are overlapping

>> No.13990141

>>13989973
There are high profile fans for NijiEN? Who?

>> No.13990161

>>13989737
She's a NEET and likes editing videos.

>> No.13990167

>>13987374
Yeah, in like 15 years at this rate

>> No.13990190

>>13988284
anon, they're playing hide and seek. One team has guns to kill the 16 teams that hide and don't have guns.

>> No.13990203

>>13989970
stop letting ame lives rent free your head anon

>> No.13990210

>>13989752
nice fanfic anon

>> No.13990217
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100k after 5 hours.
How does this compare to some other covers/originals?

>> No.13990225

>>13989856
>She also posted her extended bgm in her channel probably cause she saw one guy post it too
how is she so based

>> No.13990228

>>13990082
most notably vshojo, because vshojo appeals to westerners more than idols do

>> No.13990230

>>13989856
Based cunny+ btfo leeches

>> No.13990233

>>13990082
Which other groups? I don't see them hitting 30-35k at all.

>> No.13990237

>>13988331
And this is a win because?

>> No.13990240

>>13989551
>mind that she got this while having no competition in the timeslot

You mean other than NojiEN collab with like 5k views?

>> No.13990251

>>13990116
Oh No No No nijibros, i thought the NijiEN Golden Age starts now.
>so why we can't even break 7k right now?

>> No.13990254
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Gotta love how holobronies treat NijiEN like serious competition now.

>> No.13990271

>>13988483
Only in some scenes does it replace music, in battles when licensed music gets played it just mutes it.

>> No.13990283

>>13990161
>neet
Damn YAGOAT giving me tears

>> No.13990288

>>13989575
Is spamming karaokes really a good idea? Short term sure but i feel like it's a type of stream that should be dosed carefully.

>> No.13990292

>>13989946
Surely YOU WILL buy it friend. Give it a taste on her topic channel and decide after

>> No.13990300

>>13990228
nyanners just debut her new idol outfit anon.

>> No.13990305

>>13989973
>high profile fan switching from NijiEN-
they don't have any, thats why

>> No.13990314

>>13990228
Vshojo is turning to the idol route soon, how do you vfags feel about that?

>> No.13990326

>>13990254
Kek, samefagging is different to arguing between fanbases anon

>> No.13990356

>>13990217
average

>> No.13990367

I have to admit I can't get excited for sub-10k numbers anymore, it looks like midget numbers after back to back 160k+ debuts and constant 50k moggings for an entire week

>> No.13990380

>>13990240
Stop spreading lies
The collab started late you idiot

>> No.13990386

Esl niji anon is on full defensive mode.

>> No.13990396

>>13990254
Your delusions anon, keep it in check

>> No.13990397
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13990397

>>13989078
>sad numbers

She already made more money this month than anyone in HoloEN except Kiara and Mori. Now she gets extra 4k $ for 2nd place in the tournament.

>> No.13990429

>>13990217
Average but kino MVs + nostalgia for especially for numberfags

>> No.13990462

>>13990254
Serious Competition?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Even if you remove Gura, HoloEN still is out of reach for NijIEN

>> No.13990478

>>13990082
>>13990228
The fuck are you talking about, none of the vshojo's ccv have budged in months

>> No.13990494

>>13990397
>money
SCs, not money.
Also
>[HorribleSubs] Mahou Shoujo Site

>> No.13990520

>>13990217
Average. This is definitely a passion project/skills practice for MV creation. It's an older song, it's a LONG cover, so we'll see how it performs in the long run.

>> No.13990533

>>13990386
They can't use the ratio anymore.

>> No.13990537

Okay, why are so many nijifags and vshojofags are salivating at the thoughts of killing HoloEN? Why don't they aim at HoloJP, especially Vshojo, since you know, Vshojo supposedly has the free reign on Twitch, the biggest streaming platform on Earth?

>> No.13990548

>>13990237
it's a personal milestone, if I constantly get Fs in class I'll be happy and consider it a win when I get a D

>> No.13990556

>>13990288
It's a good idea if you are confident with your voice or aiming for vsinger/idol route. Depend on each person tho.

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>>13990462
>Even if you remove Gura

Why are mentioning someone barely above Millie?

>> No.13990598

>>13990462
You're gonna summon nitpicking retards anon

>> No.13990614

>>13990494
>SCs, not money.

So money. Coco said 3/4 of their cash comes from superchats.

>> No.13990640
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13990640

roru roru rumao

>> No.13990665

>>13990254
Holobronies fear the day that people realize NijiEN is a better and more entertaining version of their whores

>> No.13990668

>>13990537
They believe that if holoEN is defeated, every single holoEN viewer will go to the one who killed them. It's like Highlander.

>> No.13990681

>>13990397
Anon... SC as main income only apply to nijibeggars and 2views...

>> No.13990699

>>13990116
Why does Pomu always have much more viewers than Finana during such collabs, even though their median CCV is basically the same?

>> No.13990700

>>13990614
>Coco said 3/4 of their cash comes from superchats.
Kson said that now that she has no Holo merch to rely on fucker

>> No.13990704

>>13990614
Kson, not Coco, as Kson lost her connection with Hololive.
Kson/Coco also has an insane SC culture.

>> No.13990742

>>13990640
>stream less
>get better average

Great victory. Maybe next month Gura can beat Nina.

>> No.13990747

>>13990640
Is council even alive with this amount of streams?

>> No.13990755

How do we save nijiEN? Even after getting 2nd place in the $100k apex event against other Celebrities the likes of ItzTimmy and Buddha, Selen's name didn't get a mention. I stayed on Timmy's stream and they all mention "rpr's team". They don't even acknowledge vtubers, especially Selen. If Selen can't even get 10k from a large event such as this, then there's no hope in the future that would incline them. Learn Japanese and enter CR/VSaikyou? Yeah right, as if they want an EOP to be in their team. ALGS? Selen's skills is bad for competitive. There's nothing redeemable from NijiEN. They got all the obnoxious fans from Hololive and it'll hurt them in the long run. Wait for Wave 4 when shit hits the fan.

>> No.13990765

>>13990640
I guess the real story is that HoloEN barely streams so their oshibucks give them a higher average

>> No.13990775

>>13990681
Niji's main income is from merch, they don't have hololive's SC culture.

>> No.13990776

>13990665
>subjective opinion here
Get out.

>> No.13990793

>>13990665
So NijiEN is the ULTIMATE whore then ?

>> No.13990802

>>13990367
>This is your brain on number-rot

>> No.13990823
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>3 entries
how do we save NijiJP?

>> No.13990838

>>13990288
It's just Mini karaoke. She mostly talks and sings ~5 songs

>> No.13990840

>>13990775
nijien doesnt have merch

>> No.13990857

>>13990537
Holo jp is strong asf even niji jp can't damage them unless they do tourney or 3d debut.

>> No.13990865

>>13990614
That's only apply to her and only her, since she was the one that encourage this whole SC culture greatly. Holo nor nijiJP never rely that heavily on SC. It's just a nice extra for them. Unlike NijiEN... every cents count for them kek

>> No.13990866

>>13990793
THE BEST KIND OF WHORES

>> No.13990868

>>13990793
That's Vshoujo. NijiEN has nothing.

>> No.13990871

>>13990640
HEY POMU BEAT BAE, HOLOEN IS RECLINING GET BTFO HOLOFAGS, kek

>> No.13990875

>>13990700
Remember when Nijifags were using muh merch argument? Holy shit few more months and Holocope is going to be amazing.

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>>13990755
I was really not expecting Selen to get more than 5k considering APEX is dying. Shut up nigger.

>> No.13990893

>>13990775
>Niji's main income is from merch
are we talking JP or EN here?

>> No.13990899

The real competition would be the audition for HoloEN3 and NijiEN5 (if that wave is female). The market share during that time can be the same actually so things might be conpetitive.
Which side do you think will have more people audition?

>> No.13990901

>>13990665
nijien about to become the best whores than vshojo, can't wait

>> No.13990932

>>13990614
>So money. Coco said 3/4 of their cash comes from superchats.
WTF are you talking about? She said that her SC was a minor part of her income. Where did you get this 3/4 figure from?

>> No.13990958

>>13990899
You mean HoloEN3 and NijiEN300?

>> No.13990969

>>13990823
>4
If you count the honorary FORMER emperor

>> No.13990982

>>13990823
It's the evry reason why Nijifags are pushing NijiEN to shitposts
Their EN vs JP and Pekora vs Gen 6 shitposts have been repetitive.

Retards can't even say they only won due to Debut Buff because even the others are dominating.

>> No.13990985

>>13990899
The side with the larger fanbase

>> No.13991036

Is fauna the only council streaming tonight??

>> No.13991050

>>13990537
most of nijifags and vshojofags are ex-holoenfags that convert their love into hatred.

>> No.13991052

>>13990893
If Niji merch game is so great, I wonder why Omocat collabs with HoloEN and not NijiEN. So unfair.

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>>13990823
mansanji lmao

>> No.13991128

>>13990569
What the fuck are you even measuring here?

>> No.13991127

>>13990985
So NijiEN then

>> No.13991139

>>13990899
The next Hologen to debut will be ID3.
Would be funny if ID3 will make HoloID match NijIEN.

>> No.13991145

>>13990899
NijiEN obviously. People already know about Hololive's dirty laundry, and less people have been interested in applying to them evidenced by them having to drop pre-made models since they couldn't even hire TWO talents rumao compared to Nijisanji being able to hire 9 new talents despite only being given PNGs

>> No.13991162

>>13988448
it's actually a pretty solid prize pool for apex i think. apex is a much smaller scene. though it's a meme format and with content creators instead of actual pros so it's not really esports in that sense..

>> No.13991188

>>13991052
NijiEN has no physical merch yet btw, ONLY voicepack, which NijiEN gen 3 didn't get

>> No.13991195

>>13991036
Bae is out
Mumei is out
Kronii is lazy
Sana is MIA.

>> No.13991197
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13991197

Thanks to Selen's efforts today, NijiEN is inclining again! Give a round of applause.

>> No.13991216

>>13991108
>hololive's highest ever peak was last year
>nijisanji's highest ever peak was this year
looks like hololive is reclining

>> No.13991229

>>13991036
Check the schedules you dunce.
Kronii in an hour and a bit with Frostpunk xpac/dlc?

>> No.13991232

>>13991128
Total SC for the month. Selen, Nina and Enna MOGGED the shit out of Gura while Millie managed to earn about the same as the memeshart (3.63 mil subs btw)

>> No.13991239
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>>13990899
HoloEN3 is dead on arrival. Look what happened with Council. Myth survived because they were experienced streamers and were able to handle Cover being trash and their management acting like asian corps from the 70's. Younger people can't handle this shit. NijiEN and Vshojo are going to take all streamers that matter.

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>>13991108
the hat is getting weirder

>> No.13991267

>>13988448
> Entitled beggar
NijiEN fanbase, everyone.

>> No.13991273

>>13991197
kek

>> No.13991283

>13991145
This cope is so embarrassing...

>> No.13991287

>>13990747
While it's true they didn't stream as much as others, their actual amount of streams were higher than figures in that table since they don't monetize their SC reading streams (along with few other streams) for some dumb reasons. It'd have make some sense (not really, but at least I can see the reasoning) to do so when they were getting hundreds SCs per streams and were afraid they might fall behind in SC reading, but keep doing that when they only get few dozens? Kinda dumb

>> No.13991300

>>13991232
You're telling me that Mille, with 90k subs, earned the same as Gura, with 3.3 million subs?

>> No.13991304
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13991304

>holobronies
It's afraid

>> No.13991306

>>13991036
Kronii in around an hour

>> No.13991319

The the nips open border will be the day it's game over for the rest of chuuba group. HoloEN and ID 3D will slay all the chance the competition have to actually compete with them. Vshoujo will survive as they slowly penetrate and convert themselves into nips Vidol industry. If anykara is smart, they shall give NijiEN a headstart in that deparment before Holo eat the whole industry whole.

>> No.13991324

>>13991128
Superchats. Whales are jumping ships.

>> No.13991337

>>13990640
The only girls you can compare here are Irys, Selen, Petra and Rosemi since they all debuted a few days apart. Irys pretty much earned the total for both Selen and Rosemi.

>> No.13991348
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13991348

*DING DING DING*
Sana is officially the lowest of the low holo 2021 vtuber

>> No.13991349

>>13991197
She just needs to join a tournament every other day with rpr to pump up the median!

>> No.13991361

>>13991197
omedetou!

>> No.13991362

>>13991283
Who are you quoting

>> No.13991403

>>13991349
This reminds me of Kuzuha after he collab with some male idol

>> No.13991438

>>13991348
She made her bed now she has to lie in it. If she ever has a menhera attack over her numbers I hope the fans tell her to go pound sand. A month off for a fucking dog.

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>>13991348
and yet she still doubles selen's ccv
embarassing

>> No.13991480

Isnt SC more realted to streaming hours rather than Subs or number of streams?
then wouldnt it be betetr to check novmemebr SC per hours rather than per stream?

>> No.13991504

>>13991349
Nijifans please use your sc to fund 100k tournament every day.

>> No.13991510

>>13991403
Can already see the thread tomorrow shitting on Selen for getting 1-2k without a tournament make buff

>> No.13991586

>>13991348
Well, she opted to 'not care about numbers and just do whatever she wanted', she gets the consequences. As long as she's consistent with it and doesn't sperg out about numbers in the future.

>> No.13991600

>>13991473
>imagine having 2x the CCV and 30x the subs
>still lose in SCs
Rumao, you can keep your poorfag and children viewers while Selen takes all the Oil Baron paypiggies

>> No.13991641

>>13991480
Not exactly. SCs are more related to the culture the vtuber has for them. Interactive SC readings. Kayfabe. Celebrations like birthdays and/or finishing a game.

>> No.13991642

>>13991480
Well yes, but obviously no-one's gonna do that because it would break the bait.

>> No.13991662

>>13989737
actually the more interesting thing to look for with that video is whether or not it hits with a foreign crowd on r/valorant or whatever, because if it pops off to that sort of audience she's about to see a huge growth spurt. kinda curious if it got posted

>> No.13991678

>>13990548
Yes and this is why we should totally tolerate them crowing about it for hours on end.

>> No.13991686

>>13991348
Sana was culled heavily by Susan, retarded last samurai

>> No.13991695

>>13991510
Nah, Holobronies don't care about NijiEN, and nijiniggers won't show up because they know that their numbers are embarrassing to compare with.

>> No.13991713
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>>13991197
Selen's incline will continue. Seethe.

>> No.13991734

>>13991480
Depends, millie did a few sc baiting streams. Council really hates money like closing scs during sc reading.

>> No.13991735

>>13991641
i mean SC reading alwasy lenght the the streams so it does realte to how long they make it, even more if the keep SC open when reading them.

>> No.13991797

>>13991713
that birtday steeam really saved selen

>> No.13991800

>>13991713
Will other member's recline continue anon ?

>> No.13991820

>>13991586
She refuses to show her best talent for a retarded reason too. Either that or she promised Ina no drawing streams if she made it in so Ina didn't get mogged at her specialty. Either way Sana is deliberately handicapping herself for no good reason

>> No.13991877

>>13991145
Is this what the guys over at /asp/ say or did you just pull it out of your ass?

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>>13991800
No one is reclining. The average of the whole branch is lower because of Ethyria. Meanwhile holoEN will never hit the peak they had in January again.

>> No.13991925

>>13991820
I think it's because she can't really draw and chat at the same time like Ina, and she's also not as fast.

>> No.13991933

>>13991735
Sana had a 9hr stream and only earned 117,885. Irys had a 5.5hr stream and earned 228,744. Length is not the factor here. Both of them have SCs on all the time from what I know.

>> No.13991966
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13991966

Today's superchats

>> No.13992001

>>13991713
Looks like stagnated to my eyes.
Elira unironically is inclining compared to Selen

>> No.13992004

Let's cut it with the excuses, what is holoJP doing right that EN isn't? If it's a cultural thing it's not something that can just be copied 1:1, but it seems to me like they should engage more proactively in box pushing and just have more stable streaming hours since they're clearly not Ayame.

>> No.13992025

>>13991917
>Ethyria such a massive flop that they managed to dive NijiEN below HoloID
Jesus Christ.

>> No.13992062

>>13991348
ahahahha
Koyori is on track on topping Fauna and Baelz as well

>> No.13992093

>>13991966
Pekora never tops these lists but she seems pretty consistent. 2.3k for a regular ass stream you'll do another 30 times is pretty good.

>> No.13992102

>>13991966
Where's NijiEN? According to the schizos here they're the king of superchats.

>> No.13992106

>>13991966
Who are those on the top3??
And how does fucking Oga mogged Subaru?

>> No.13992152

>>13992004
JP has natural bigger viewers base compared to EN.
While vtubers is still somewhat niche inside JP. it much worse outside JP

>> No.13992168

>>13992106
Oga new outfit.

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>>13991917
>No one is reclining
>Holo numbers clearly on a decline
Rumao, the Holofaggots cope is delicious

>> No.13992213

>>13992106
Oga got a new outfit

>> No.13992236

>>13991917
>No one is reclining. The average of the whole branch is lower because of Ethyria.
That means NijiEN is reclining anon, it's literally the definition of a recline, and last i checked Ethyria is part of NijiEN. I don't understand why it's so hard for you to accept this simple fact, you've been spamming this thread and multiple other threads with this for a long time now and it's honestly beyond stupid. At first i thought you were baiting but i think you're actually really deluded, which is kinda crazy. You might need a break from the internet and vtubers for a while, this can't be healthy. Seek help.

>> No.13992237

>>13992004
Stable streaming hours and none of these depressing "tummy hort" or "my dog died" shit.

>> No.13992242

>>13992004
1 timezone vs fucking 3
Competition in EN streaming sphere
Clip+Vod culture vs more streamwatching culture (partly to do with matured streaming scene, partly to do with how the EN vtubing scene)
So culture, but also the hard reality that no matter what, we can't truncate 3 timezones into one.

>> No.13992244

>>13992004
Time zones aside, they need to fucking stream. It's pathetic that Monday's are usually dead with 11 members.

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13992245

rui....

>> No.13992259

>>13991480
You'll need to count only hours on monetized streams then, as SCs will be zero per hour on anything unmonetized.

>> No.13992270

>>13992004
Work ethic. JPs top tier talents work their asses off. Pekora streams almost every single day, Marine has streamed most days even when shes doing a shitton of work behind the scenes for sponsors and merch.

EN just doesn't have the drive that the top JPs do so they've been skating along on pure hype. They don't work together as well either. Though I will give Mori credit, she has massively stepped up her game since August. She's done a lot of long streams and is still outputting a lot of music so good on her. Amelia and Gura really need to step it up though.

The less said about Council the better

>> No.13992295

>>13991966
Takos are weird they spend a lot of money on irrelevant projects for Ina like the Times square shit but never on her when it matters.

>> No.13992306

>>13992093
Pretty sure she stopped doing full SC readings once she had her breakdown earlier in the year, unless I'm misremembering? That would drop her average SC per stream.

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13992329

Bros this can't be it, Why can't we even break 7k Ceiling this time??

Ohhh i know, maybe they're just tired.
Yeah that's it. They'll be back tomorrow right? Continous easy 9k and 10k total ccv will be ours!

>> No.13992334

>>13992210
>cut off date of Nov 12
Kek

>> No.13992387

>>13992025
I meant NijiEN. You can clearly see here that no one actually declined: >>13991713 Ethyria lost their debut buffs and are now dragging the average of the whole branch down. This is what holobronies don't tell you when they post this chart: >>13991197

>> No.13992435

>>13992295
Ina tells her fans not to superchat

>> No.13992444

>>13992387
>debut buffs
They never had one and if they did it died after a couple days.

>> No.13992492

>>13992295
Ya dumbfuck. When the streamer herself pretty much outright says "DON'T SUPERCHAT ME I DO NOT NEED IT NOR AM I GOING TO READ ALL THE SC", you're not gonna SC her. Like, the only SC's she's going to read are going to be Birthdays, Personal milestones (finding a new job + Graduating school being the most common ones) and the occasional bad pun that makes her laugh.
Like, I'd love to know her membership and merch sales and how that balances as a whole.

>> No.13992540

>>13991713
>>13992387
I need HoloEN version of this type of graph

>> No.13992542

>>13992387
Yeah, Ethyria are such a massive flop compared to the rest of the branch that after the debut buffs are gone NijiEN actually dipped below HoloID. Actual deadweight.

>> No.13992556

>>13992106
#1: Ikinone Tomeru, DWU's "little sister" who got a ton of oil baron gachikois from the time she revealed her address on stream while looking for a job and told everyone they could come and molest her if they paid her bills
#2 Furen E Lustario, upper-mid tier Niji
#3 Member of a very old and popular NND let's play group who for some reason is now a babiniku vtuber

>> No.13992561

>>13992387
And when HoloJP declined due to HolOX Debut Buff being over. You suddenly forget this argument.

And btw, Ethyria's Debut buff is so weak it's almost invalid to say they even had one.

>> No.13992567
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its over.

>> No.13992595

>>13992270
Mori, ina and irys have the best work ethic in en. Irys is busy right now because of 3D shit she streaming at jp primetime nowdays.

>> No.13992634

>>13992567
Go to sleep bong

>> No.13992666

>>13992270
>>13992244
Didn't council attend a convention that out them out of commission for a week at the end of november?

>> No.13992681

>>13992595
You can't exclude the chicken

>> No.13992706

>>13992567
Going the Reine route i see.

>> No.13992740

>>13992540
The anon who made the charts says it'll be a few days.
>>13992542
Correct. Waves 1 and 2 are relatively healthy when slit off, but wave 3 is legit deadweight at the moment.

>> No.13992780

>>13992004
EN needs 3D and more event organizers.
Kiara can organize stuffs, but her voice is a debuff.
EN needs more talents like Mio, Miko, Marine and Subaru, who can organize events and create skits.
Baelz was that hire for EN, but she hasn't organized a big collab (10/+) yet, and Ame burns out too fast.
The JP talents that I specified are from four different generations, so EN needs more people/resources...

>> No.13992813

>>13992567
Atleast let her gather her audience first lol
It's another Talk Stream so 12k peak is my prediction.

I know those are still good numbers but seeing how big the difference of Lui's numbers to Chloe's is kinda sad.

>> No.13992875

>>13992740
>Correct. Waves 1 and 2 are relatively healthy when slit off, but wave 3 is legit deadweight at the moment.
Typical Nijisanji's problem. Some of their big talents are carrying deadweight

>> No.13992933
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13992933

>>13990755
>tfw rpr is going to convert apex tourists into Towa fans like he did to himself

>> No.13992957

>>13992004
>English Viewers are mostly trend hoppers. So they better do things that catch their attention. Long breaks is a big No.
>They simply need to stream more consistently
>3D will help reignite interest so they better make use of the "3D Buff"

>> No.13992966

>>13992875
>Some of their big talents are carrying deadweight
Every company and every gen/wave has deadweight to carry, it's not unique to nijis.

>> No.13992967

>>13992933
Rpr is going to convert Apex and Towafans into Dragoons

>> No.13993023

>>13990755
That's the thing with trying hard to get into the Twtich e-celeb circle, they look down on vtubers and their fans hate anything anime.

>> No.13993043

>>13992740
It's going to be interesting to see how Wave 4 affects NijiEN numbers moving forward.

>> No.13993087
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13993087

>>13992387
How about you posted the chart with Ethyria separated from NijiEN, then? You can see that both were declining. NijiEN (without Ethyria) declined very slightly, but declined nonetheless

>> No.13993130

>>13991925
it's bizarre because her roommate used to do drawing streams all the time back in her deviantart days when she was still a super talented artist... I really am starting to believe the rats about Ina not wanting her niche stolen

>> No.13993136

>>13993023
Don't forget that they will never leave twitch and watch youtube streams

>> No.13993156
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13993156

>>13992967
Delusional.

>> No.13993162

>>13992966
>every gen/wave has deadweight to carry
but its uncanny that the whole wave is deadweight
oh wait selejo

>> No.13993208

>>13993087
Looks like stagnated to me. Still not a great situation though

>> No.13993231

>>13992967
Only reason Kenzoku leave Towa is if she graduates and even then, the hardcore knows where to find her.
t. Kenzoku.

>> No.13993249

>>13993130
She still does drawing streams, she just limited it to member only. I remember she said something about the reason, but I don't remember why and I'm too lazy to dig through the archive.

>> No.13993291

Kakage really debuff rui design. Kakage why you put that stupid wing on her head?? Your specialty is big titty thick anime chick. No cleavage?? The guy over design her so much.

>> No.13993303

>>13992875
To be fair, the deadweight are barely in the minority right now ( 4 out of 10). NijiEN aren't pumping out livers anywhere near as fast as NijiJP did back at the start. It was like, what 50 livers debuting in 2018 alone?

>> No.13993323

>>13993208
>stagnating
Holobrony breathing on copium I see. They are clearly inclining, at an even better rate than your whores

>> No.13993384

>>13993130
It's because she does not want be know as the just drawing kid one of the main reasons she entered hololive. Give Sana her alt outfit and she will incline like crazy mark my words.

>> No.13993399

>>13993323
clearly

>> No.13993423

>>13993130
Behind the facade Ina is a petty, spiteful gook so it's plausible to me at least

>> No.13993429

>>13993323
>whores
>NijiEN is the one with sexual humor
>HoloEN can't even do that without getting reprimanded by management
At least get your insults correct.
also
>clearly

>> No.13993476

Question for all: Why did sony fail? I saw it shilled hard on Facebook and they got such a pitiful turn out I feel really bad for their girls

>> No.13993478

>>13993087
>ends at 11-12
This is clearly not in line with: >>13991713 It's just 12 days, so you're not going to get the whole picture with that small sample size. And even then, it's a number that's in line with August numbers, so it's not a decline. HoloEN never hit the peak they had January again and are at all time low in scs despite the addition of Council. They're the only ones declining.

>> No.13993490

Why is anon getting so heated up about a less than 50 viewer incline.

>> No.13993500

>>13993384
Retarded reasoning honestly. Not showing your best skill because you don't want to be typecast

>> No.13993506

>>13993323
How do you see NijiEN actually inclining from that graph? I actually curious as hell

>> No.13993512

>>13992270
Funny how the HoloEN with consistency is the one living in JP
I'm just saying

>> No.13993519

>>13992957
This, and the biggest JP proof of that is haachama.
She shed most of her English viewers from her breaks

>> No.13993520

>Gura is back and gets her usual 20k
>12k for Mori
>8k for Fauna
>new song for Ina
Really strong day for HoloEN. No wonder the EN schizo is so active with the cope. He is probably seething and pulling his hair out right now.

>> No.13993535

>>13993323
-Compares 8/20 to current bump up at the end of the month thanks to Selen's bday
I mean, it's still hovering around that ~1600 mark, not really an incline, more like staying steady.

>> No.13993536

>>13992567
thank you for reminding me this! almost missing out my lunch together with Lui-nee

>> No.13993539

>>13993476
Simply because they have shit models and they're not Hololive and Nijisanji

>> No.13993561

Why are people so happy with vtuber dying in the West anyway? Shouldn't you know that if vtuber scene dies, so will clippers and translators right? Not everyone has the privilege to learn another language with how the world is going to shit right now?

>> No.13993576

>>13993476
>shilled hard on Facebook
Do the Japanese even use Facebook that much?

>> No.13993586

>>13993490
I mean what do even define as "incline" here? 500? 1000? It's so small in comparison than any digit above 100 will be "significant"

>> No.13993593

>>13993561
>clippers
Yes.
>translators
No.
Holo still have their local market to lean on even if the EN scene dies, and that's a big if.

>> No.13993599

>>13993519
lui at 12k makes gura look bad though

>> No.13993601

>>13993476
I saw some game news websites shilling them too.

>> No.13993604

>>13993561
Maybe some people here just hate vtubers in general and just shitting every vtubers for fun

>> No.13993616

>>13993520
This not strong numbers from holoen though.

>> No.13993615

>>13993561
>watching a clip that isn't translated
Just watch the fucking stream then, what's the fucking point then? Are you actually that retarded?

>> No.13993617

>>13993561
You're taking the ramblings of last samuari faggots at face value.

>> No.13993628

>>13993520
12k for a collab is pretty bad though

>> No.13993641

>>13993478
No there not anon hololive just have an biggger audience and it's school time and people are in work are so a lot of fans are busy because we actually have lives unlike nijifags who live in their basement all day.

>> No.13993709

From what I read, if any of the anons here were actual managers, you would be sued or at least cancelled by talents because of questionable work ethics.

>> No.13993716

>>13993520
Those are Gura and Fauna medians. Good for Mori though.

>> No.13993721
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13993721

Nyanners numbers

>> No.13993727

>>13993599
Its noon in Japan right now no? I assume this is just during breaktime which is why she's got a decent amount? Eating and watching maybe?

>> No.13993730

>>13993628
No it isn't fuck head

>> No.13993735

>>13993628
Is GGS and both Mori and Ina are noobs at it. It's to be expected.

>> No.13993778

>>13993561
ENVtubers were a fucking mistake. Vtubing should have stayed in JP

>> No.13993822

>>13993576
I'm not sure, but I saw a couple ads and pages shilling them. Posting their talent info and debut times. Also saw a MV they uploaded. I had followed one of the channels ahead of time, and then completely forgot about it later during the HoloX debuts. I wondered who the fuck was Hitoshiro Itsuki and why she was at the top of my feed every day.

>> No.13993826

Is 10-11k Iive views good for a fighting game?

>> No.13993837

>>13993727
12:26 pm in Japan right now.

>> No.13993838

>13993778
Go back to /jp/ you faggot.

>> No.13993888

>>13993721
holy shit? idol route? sing Virtual Live now Nyanner!

>> No.13993895

>>13993721
New 3d with mouse only 11k?? This is the best en scene numbers on twitch???

>> No.13993934

>>13993826
For some perspective, Twitch has fucking 1.8k viewers for GG: Strive across ALL active streams.

>> No.13993951

>>13993721
I thought mouse was bedridden or something

>> No.13993998

>>13993730
Two Holomyth members pulling what a mid tier HoloJP member like Kanata gets for an ordinary stream is bad. Cope.

>> No.13994002

>>13993888
Why? They didn't earn it dumbass.

>> No.13994003

>>13993721
>12K for a new 3D
jesas

>> No.13994007

>>13993721
Is that idol outfit for that Japanese vtubers event?

>> No.13994009

>>13993826
For both being bad and not even related with the FGC, is fine. Is even better than most locals top 8's and even some regionals.

>> No.13994030

>>13992967
if anything dragoons are going to get converted into kenzoku, in fact selen is probably a kenzoku as it is
>is purple
>is an EOP
>tries to collab with holos
>tries to befriend towa's thai friend
>tries to befriend towa's korean friend
>tries to get into jp tournament scene despite not knowing a word of japanese
>tries to befriend towa's croatian pro friend
>roommate was likely a holo watcher

>> No.13994040

>>13993727
>which is why she's got a decent amou-
imagine not wanting eat lunch together with Lui-nee

>> No.13994064

rui has 13k views now

>> No.13994073

>>13993895
Yes. The normal ceiling on Vshojo isn't that high when compared to their normal numbers. The highest peak of any vshojo stream is 27k, off of a stream that got fucking pinned to the front page of Twitch.

>> No.13994165

>>13993576
No
FB is SEA territory
Should have gone for Twitter

>> No.13994176

>>13994073
Reminder that being on the front page means you get counted as a view for the stream that's currently playing muted.

>> No.13994198

>>13993721
So VShojo really did defeated Nux?
I thought he was untouchable?

And those numbers. What was the peak? I thought Nyanners is Gura level. So this stream should get that high.

>> No.13994218

>>13993023
Ironmouse is somehow the only exception. She's been accepted in that sphere.

>> No.13994229
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13994229

>>13994030
s-selen... maybe we treated you unfairly

>> No.13994232
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13994232

I guess she'll be the weak link of her gen. Japs seem to get filtered really hard by voices like hers.

>> No.13994252

>>13994007
It must be, very little reason otherwise to pull something like that out.
>>13994030
FYI, Selen is a chumbud if what I've read is correct. For all the shitslinging we do, the Niji girls are definitely not tribalist faggots.

>> No.13994253

>>13993721
>>13994007
yeah looks like for VILLs
>>13994002
lol

>> No.13994265

Is 4chan the only place where Nijifags shout the loudest? Because they are quiet on Twitter, Reddit and even YT.

>> No.13994266

>>13993476
>facebook
But why? They can't afford youtube ads?

>> No.13994282

>Gura streamed 3.5 hours
>Received 0, zero, none, yada, SC
The absolute state of HoloEN. I would have thought that Playboard was bugged out or it was an unarchived stream if other sites didn't show the same result and it wasn't freaking GTA

>> No.13994288

>>13994232
I like nip hags much more than western hags so maybe its a similar thing

>> No.13994296
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13994296

>>13994232
she'll incline after a singing stream i know it

>> No.13994331

>>13994266
I didn't see any youtube ads since I use adblock. They probably had those too

>> No.13994333

>>13994265
discord

>> No.13994347

>>13994282
You can't monetize gta no?

>> No.13994348
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13994348

This will be the closest for EN to get 3D, and I can't watch it live.
The last one peaked at 60k, and since Hololive audience has grown, we can expect a higher peak, a gold contender. It's a bit upsetting to miss this live.

>> No.13994353

>>13993778
YWNBJ

>> No.13994368

>>13994265
>They are quiet on Twitter, Reddit and even YT
NO, they will insert their chuuba in whatever chance they could

>> No.13994401

>13994282
The absolute fucking state...

>> No.13994408

>>13994282
Huh? You do know audience can't send SCs to GTAV Streams right?

Atleast research a bit before talking shit. You're embarassing yourself

>> No.13994409

>>13994009
How does it measure against fighting game streamer?

>> No.13994410

>>13993895
New models or 3d isn't a big deal for twitch vtubers. It doesn't mood the needle much because it's a common occurrence. It's not like the JP corpos that need a studio and huge event to make it happen, they do it all the time.

>> No.13994412

>>13993998
Go fuck yourself. Go back to whatever shit hole you came from. You are here 24 hours a day and have no life.

>> No.13994418
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13994418

holy shit, the baits are getting worse by the post

>> No.13994419

>>13994348
https://youtu.be/J10fT6SneMI
The pink coyote is about to overlap it, brave move. Let's see if it works out.

>> No.13994439

>>13994232
Do you expect better numbers from a talk stream during weekdays at noon timeslot?

>> No.13994442

>>13994348
>EN
IRyS is honorary JP!!!

>> No.13994441

>>13994348
I can't wait for cardboard IRyS

>> No.13994443

>>13994232
While she still has debut buff, it's a lunch time chatting stream. Her gaming stream still got close to 30k earlier (before she ended it after just 10') so even though her numbers were behind others in her gen, she isn't doing that bad

>> No.13994461

>>13994368
They like to do that a lot, but somehow it does not work. That's hilarious.

>> No.13994472

>>13994282
3.63 mil subs and yet $0 in SC. Rumao, the absolute state of HoloEN recline

>> No.13994488

>>13994439
Yes, debut buff is still very strong.

>> No.13994498

>>13993998
Kanata has an 8k average you disingenuous dip

>> No.13994514

holoX
>takes morning slot
>takes lunch slot
>streams before prime
>streams at midnight
>streams holometa games
truly the numberfag mascots

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13994538

>>13994296
Use the Calli image next time anon

>> No.13994544

>>13994439
Chloe doubled this in an early morning time slot just talking so Lui could be considered the "weak link". Only time will tell if she'll dive down to Kiara CCV levels.

>> No.13994564

>>13993130
I dont think Ina cares. There’s plenty already in that niche and all that has to be done is not schedule a drawing stream at the same time. However, I think Omegatroon cares and more importantly has the power of enforcing his award-winning narrative chuuni fiction

>> No.13994584

>>13994418
It's what happens when you let nijiniggers feel comfortable.

>> No.13994599

>>13994409
Which one? FG streamers are tricky. There are some that stick to only one or two games and others that jump to FOTM.
Let's take one of the more well known ones, Maximilian_Dood.
https://twitchtracker.com/maximilian_dood
Average 8.6k viewers, peaks around 11k (don't see any raids).
So, comparable to one of the more well known FGC dudes who's been doing this for YEARS.

>> No.13994615
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Speaking of ads. Even small companies are buying them.

>> No.13994670
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13994670

>>13994409
About this.

>> No.13994679

>>13994544
>Lui
>Kiara level
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
But seriously tho, unless she has a big yab, I don't see it happening

>> No.13994691

>13994472
>13994282
Samefagging doesn't make you cool, it just makes you a fag.

>> No.13994705

Has HoloX brought back attention from EOPs or just JOPs only?

>> No.13994736

>>13994412
EN fag getting a little hot under the collar over the fact ENs numbers are terrible

>> No.13994752

>>13994670
So pretty comparable
But Dood plays more fighting games and stream for longer time

>> No.13994754

>>13994705
JOPs only. EOPs are busy with NijiEN and VShojo

>> No.13994762

>>13994282
SCs are not allowed for all Rockstar games.

>> No.13994850

>>13994232
>still doing better than buffed shark playing gta

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>>13994348
im supporting sola tyan no matter what, sorry koyori chan
>>13994538
i hate calli and en so no

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13994879

>>13994584
he's replying to himself as well if you look at the time. this board is newfag central so they keep biting since they see his posts are getting replies

>> No.13994922

>>13994705
JOP only, captivating more JOP tourist, EOP is incline to watch nijien and vsj nowadays since holoEN putting less and less stream

>> No.13994928 [SPOILER] 
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13994928

https://youtu.be/o5DI9O0Ktbs
The King is back for more numbers. No, not that king.

>> No.13994972

holo circuit today?

>> No.13994974

>>13994879
It's absolutely terrible. I suspect we have more tourists than usual in numbers thanks to HoloX numbers breaking everyone's minds. It's bloody obvious too when the fucker keeps sameafagging. Sometimes I wish the board had just a litttttle more restraint on biting bait and/or a test period for thread-ids, just to see how that would work out.

>> No.13994983

>>13994544

She probably will be the weak link, yes. But Kiara level is a bit too much

>> No.13995003

So:
Gura GTAV > Mori/Ina Collab > All of NijiEN (Event Apex + RAFT Collab)

Fauna > All of NijIEN (RAFT Collab, selen joined since event apex ended)

>> No.13995009

Why are nijifaggots baiting fulltime today? Did something bad happen to Nijisanji?

>> No.13995034

>>13994928
Friend...
My god, this is worse than Kanata's UPRP hunt at this point in terms of hours, isn't it.

>> No.13995046

>>13995009
They are seething since one of the past OP pics for this thread was a graph of their declining average CCV.

>> No.13995066

>>13995009
They've been full schizo since Mel pegged Kuzuha and became top vampire

>> No.13995072

>>13994879
it's not hard to believe there's more than one fucker out there

>> No.13995077

>>13994599
>>13994670
Impressive. Now I wonder how the tournament calli wanted to do would of done.

>> No.13995176

>>13995009
They can't win with numbers anymore, so they start making shit up

>> No.13995189

>>13995009
Just one or two same anons samefagging, his posts are super obvious too. He also posts a lot on the bait split threads.

>> No.13995203

>>13995009
>They're still blaming the nijifags
Globalfags are dumb as fuck

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13995230

>>13993500
>>13994564
>>13993249
>>13993423
>>13993384
It's a damn shame. I love Sana, but she doesn't have what it takes to be like Marine, and be known for anything else but her art.

It's not what she wants to hear obviously, but it's not a bad thing to be known just for being an incredible talented illustrator, and it's sad she's not content with the gift that she was blessed with.

I'd prefer she just be known as an artist holo than what the only personality trait people that don't watch her (and hell even some of her viewers) get from her, which is beeg and bread.

That's not a true personality that most people are gonna care to check out, or endure 11 hour endurance streams of.

>> No.13995246

>>13995203
It's a lot more fun to pretend it's the nijifags instead of falseflaggers.

>> No.13995258

>>13995009
NijiEN broke 10k total ccv barrier (due to RAFT Collab and Event Apex of Selen with rpr & ipn).
>They bragged and talk shit like there's no tomorrow
>But then reality hit them, Mori/Ina collab alone got higher numbers
>They can't even break 7k right now even though its a full on collab

>> No.13995304

>>13995009
>Kuzuha 22.9k RE challenge
who wouldn't go retarded

>> No.13995313

>>13995072
oh, no doubt about that. my guess is probably /qa/fags. ever since that board got nuked, shitposters and onions posters are everywhere

>> No.13995315

>>13992004
EN is doing FUCKING NOTHING. specially Council
>no events
>no big collabs
>big breaks
and management is gimping them hard
>shitty merch with the same image for a whole year
>no new game perms despite them asking for a ton of titles
>no outfits
>3D canceled for a while (and the announcement that it was delayed was even before the announcement that they were getting it, that should tell you something)

>> No.13995350

>>13995258
HAHAHAHAH Absolute State of Nijifags

>> No.13995360

waiting for holoEN to dissolve and IRyS joins JP instead

>> No.13995365

>>13995315
they don't have any less perms than JP that i can notice

>> No.13995403

>>13995034
dunno. it's like 31 hours + whatever off screen she's done. i enjoy the streams a lot though, so i'm pretty happy with her luck.

>> No.13995415

>>13995246
I havn't even pretended I like Niji. I just hate HoloEN and global which is reddit central. Simple as. You retards spinning around creating boogeymen is getting old

>> No.13995419

>>13994348
lmao cardboard irys is definitely better than animated irys

>> No.13995463

>>13995246
No, it 100% is Nijifags. They are doing the same thing on Reddit and it all started about 2 weeks ago. I think they are doing a Guerilla marketing campaign leading up to the Wave 4 announcement for EN.

>> No.13995492

>>13995415
>>13995463
So which is it?

>> No.13995554

>>13995463
So you're implying that this board is reddit?

>> No.13995594

>>13995365
and that's the point, everything they play is something the JP's asked for

>> No.13995638

>>13995594
or they try permissions for both at the same time?

>> No.13995684

>>13995554
Buddy, given how big HoloEN got and that Reddit is the home of HoloEN's biggest fanbase..you tell me?
>>13995415
You need to go the fuck back to /jp/, why the hell are you shitting up the board that was created specifically because EN got too big on jp anyways?!?!?!

>> No.13995705

>>13995554
I see you have trouble reading EN schizo. No, Nijisanji is doing their marketing campaign on Reddit as well as here.

>> No.13995763

>>13995684
>>13995705
I did come from Reddit though, and I'm sure many others who post here have as well.

>> No.13995790

>>13994331
Well I had no adblock and didn't see them compared to other vtuber ads, though could also just be luck that I didn't get any.

>> No.13995808

>>13995763
go back all of you

>> No.13995807

>>13995763
We can tell..

>> No.13995819

It's amazing how no vtuber, or vtuber agency, has applied the kpop formula yet. I know that there is a HUGE overlap of kpop fans and weebs. And right now, kpop is the biggest thing on Earth right now.

>> No.13995855

>>13995819
And what is that kpop formula?

>> No.13995893

>>13995819
????
what "kpop" formula? when its just a mishmas of american pop culture and japanese idol cuture that the gooks stole

>> No.13995904

>>13995230
Sana is a graphic designer more than an artist.
Here process of "drawing" is far more slower going by her memebr streams
i thin she doesnt have the confidence on it or want to change her methodology for the sake of streaming.

>> No.13995939
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13995939

>>13995819
>anon, ill be needing that formula. hand it over. and there will be no trouble

>> No.13995983

>>13990875
Retard merch does matter but you cant know the amount of merch they sold but you Nijiniggers still cope about it.

>> No.13995992

>>13994419

She just changed the time to 1 hour later, so no overlaps from the JP girls for the announcement

>Koyori ch. 博衣こより - holoX -: 公式番組と被ってしまっていたので【21時~】に変更しました!急な変更ごめんなさい…!よろしくだよ~~(ᐡ •̥ ̫ •̥ ᐡ)

>> No.13996010

Koyori moved her Pokemon stream an hour later to not overlap the announcement stream.

>> No.13996028

>>13992306
She stopped cause she said she felt like she didnt deserve the SCs after not being able to give back to her fans (due to her project getting canceled)

She mentioned that they should save their SCs for special occasions only

>> No.13996215

>>13995992
smart, unlike iofi or treerat

>> No.13996233

>>13995992
Smart girl. It's doubly hard for her to keep people updated though since her Twitter account is STILL frozen.

>> No.13996309

>>13996233
it should be youtube community posts and only youtube community posts. twitter and streaming should be seperate, we dont want matsuri incidents.

>> No.13996341

Man, I hope any HoloEN3 hopefuls will at least look at HoloX and learn from them.

>> No.13996382

>>13994030
All nijiENs are major holofags except for one or two

>> No.13996436

>>13996341
It depends on the creative team. It can't be a coincidence that all five hires hate numbers.

>> No.13996459

>>13996028
One day, I hope we find out what that project is. Alas, I suspect we'll never find out unless it gets revisited and greenlit in the future.

>> No.13996465

>>13996341
Numberfag is good but imagine recruiting greedy dramawhore into hololive. I just have no hope with en streamers

>> No.13996656

>>13994514
Kek i just realize it. These girls are on 24/7 grind. Glad to see the gen 4th grind reenact by HoloX. This was one of the major factor for 4th gen breakthrough enforced by Coco. They really have a promising future

>> No.13996666

>>13996465
Unfortunately so many EN vtubers that numberfags are dramawhore. Not surprised though because the EN streaming meta is drama

>> No.13996707

>>13995819
>there is a HUGE overlap of kpop fans and weebs
there is not
kpop fans are basically very toxic idol fans
most aren't weebs

>> No.13996736

>>13996707
Am I just an exception then?

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13996758

so... about those numbers..?

>> No.13996794

>>13990314
>Vshojo is turning to the idol route soon, how do you vfags feel about that?
will never happen

>> No.13996804

>>13995009
After constantly get mogged by holo this year, their minds finally broke by HoloX numbers

>> No.13996822

>>13996736
yes you are

>> No.13996835

>>13996736
there's a small number
but yeah, my sister is into kpop and kdrama but will not touch anime or anything japan related

>> No.13996870

>>13996758
Sorry, nijiniggers took up residence here shat up the place like the apes they are.

>> No.13996893

>>13996794
I saw a screenshot of their stream with what looked like Ironmouse/Nyanners in 3D idol outfits though. Was that supposed to be some kind of inside joke?

>> No.13996922

>>13996436
Hiring people who have other commitments is stupid too. This isn't 2019 anymore, being a Hololive member is a full time job

>> No.13997067

>>13996922
Did kiara go on holiday again? Where she gone now?? Paris??

>> No.13997120

>>13995819
You mean like this?
https://youtu.be/6lRUL3GMnUI

>> No.13997178

>>13996666
This
I'd rather safe than sorry in terms of anti-drama, even if it cost raw number
Like, imagine the likes of Nyanner getting in to HoloEN ...

>> No.13997181

>>13997067
I was talking about Mumei trying to juggle college with Hololive. And before anyone says it Haachama joined before Hololive was a serious job.

>> No.13997247

Friend 20k get in burger time zone.

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