Vshojo drama

[Anonymous No.]

We just can't stop winning Nuxbros

[Anonymous No.]

kill yourself

[Anonymous No.]

Joker Batman pls go and stay go

[Anonymous No.]

huh? didn't this faggot get fucking destroyed? why do you keep posting threads about this destroyed faggot?

[Anonymous No.]

>simping for western w*men
just go down street and buy a hooker rumao

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>>13612890
>just go down street and buy a hooker rumao
Probably too scared to interact with real women lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>13612890
Ywnbj also japanese women dont shave and ugly like korean chinese eww.

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>>13612834
No, he achieved comeback victory

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>>13612706
>Robin with the personality of Deathstroke

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>>13612834
Looking at the responses going back and forth, general consensus is that both parties are equally retarded

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>>13612706
He's getting destroyed even by his friends who have nothing to do with Vshojo lmao

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>>13613026
nah he got fucking wrecked. unless by comeback you mean his boyfriend ejaculated onto his back

[Anonymous No.]

>>13612834
he posted DMs showing that he didn't do anything wrong

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>all of this could have been prevented if the pink cat didnt sperg out
loving every laugh

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>>13613055
I did and was able to confirm that only retards are on his side

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>>13612706
Gotta keep making the same thread constantly. sans plz leave

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>>13612760
>>13612809
Vshittards MALDING

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>>13613141
nah, those DMs aren't fucking shit. his video was a massive fuckup and he deserves to keep getting fucked for posting it

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone who thinks Nux lost this because some simps on Twitter spammed some mean tweets is objectively retarded.

Put yourself in the shoes of someone infinitely more successful than you and pretend that you are in charge of a company who is looking at collabs and sponsorships with Vtubers. This is a company that didn't even have the most basic "We will not ask you for personal information" warning anywhere on their site or on their applications who failed to buy up similar-named domains.

And then when something bad happens and their company is involved, instead of putting out a company statement or addressing the issue they order an all-streamers-on-deck Twitter dogpile on the guy who breaks the news of a scam going on.

How does that look for a company looking for sponsorships and collabs? Remember, Veibae is already so retarded she got herself banned from Hololive collabs forever. Now imagine that applies to the entire company.

Sorry Redditors, tweets and ratios don't actually matter in real life. Nux won. I don't even care who he is or what he's known for, the objective irrefutable fact is Vshojo was always planning on shooting the messenger regardless of who it was.

Now that you have a better understanding of how real life works, you may improve yourself by going outside and touching some grass.

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>>13612706
Literally did nothing wrong.
He's exercising his free speech and Vshojo want's to censor him.

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>>13613277
Cope.

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>>13613280
hopefully he can be bullied into suicide

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>>13613194
It's still getting attention. Seethe and poo.

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>>13613280
It's not free speech if it's harming other people.

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>TFW don't care for Vshojo or Nux and just enjoy retards shitflinging each other while huffing copium

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>>13613277
holy shit. this is one of the most pathetic posts I've seen on /vt/ in the last year. vshojo is fun and entertaining. nux is a fucking worthless faggot. learn to pick your sides better.

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>Froot posts proof saying she asked him to take down the video while he refuses. Also proving what Melody said that he just ignores the feelings of everyone else just so he can have content
>The DMs he posts claiming he had the full support of VShojo flat out say "we wouldn't recommend it because we were told it'd be bad if we did, but we technically can't stop you from doing it"
>Everyone outside of his 15 year old incel weeb fanbase is still against him for being an edgy douchebag while all his fans can say are "these dumb women twisting the truth to make themselves look good!!!!!!"
>he will never collab with anyone who associates with VShojo ever again
>he is locked out of collabing with Kson, who would be a massive boost in clout for his channel because Melody doesn't like him anymore.
in what way is he "winning"

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>>13613350
Don't care.
Cry more.

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>>13613433
Die naxi.

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>>13613277
Nux won. Vshojo lost the moment they prioritized attacking Nux instead of dealing with the doxer.

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>>13613167
Holy truth

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>Never heard of this fag until now
>Suddenly starts getting posted all over the board because of some drama with Vshojo
>Just so happens that he's part of a new group that got announced at around the same time
This is an extremely blatant and extremely retarded shilling campaign

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>>13612706
Technically true when you've never even started winning. Sucking your own dick doesn't count as a win.

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>>13613425
>>Froot posts proof saying she asked him to take down the video while he refuses. Also proving what Melody said that he just ignores the feelings of everyone else just so he can have content
Why did Froot delete the tweet showing off the DM's with her and Nux then?

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>>13613462
This is cope.

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>>13613425
>>he will never collab with anyone who associates with VShojo ever again
>>he is locked out of collabing with Kson, who would be a massive boost in clout for his channel because Melody doesn't like him anymore.
If only. No vtuber company or circle will go anywhere near him.

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>This shit is becoming drama containment thread
Nice

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>>13613412
This has nothing to do with being entertaining or not.

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>>13613462
Yeah, he won at being the bigger retard

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>>13613462
they don't need to deal with the doxxer because the phishing scam was stopped a month ago. The reason Nux's video was looked down on by them is because it comes across as gloat-y and brag-y rather than informing people of what had happened, which could influence copycats

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>>13613425
Vshoujo attacked him while omitting the fact that Nux was really given the permission to upload

[Anonymous No.]

ITT: Nuxfags coping thread.

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>>13613507
What about his anituber friends? Including trashtaste?

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>>13613280
>He's exercising his free speech
So are the people calling him a retard

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>>13613425
The only way he could be considered "winning" is if people are so anti-Vshojo that they consider them being in any kind of unpleasant drama a win.
>>13613538
You unironically sound like a Nux fanboy.

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>>13613507
Most of the actual vtuber company would never go near him in the first place. He’s a clickbaiting dramatuber using parts stolen from other franchise. Most companies with half a brain won’t touch him with a 20ft pole.

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>>13612706
This is definitely bait.

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>>13613594
>no new ip
Literally doing it for free lmao

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>>13613538
he wasn't given permission, he was just told that they were advised that it wouldn't be a good idea to talk about it, but they really can't stop him from giving his own personal story about it. Which he took to mean "I AM FREE TO TAKE CREDIT FOR STOPPING DOXXERS, I AM THE SAVIOR OF VTUBERS!!!!!"

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nux fucks himself over by revealing he's a fucking piece of shit, ensuring no sane vtuber would ever associate with him

retards: le epic win. victory for nux

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>>13613597
>trashtaste
Oh sure, Hime_Hajime's roommate's husband and Ironmouse's walking talking friendzone will totally collab with Nux after this

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>>13613633
There is nothing wrong with being anti vshojo. They are the scourge of the vtubing community.

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>>13613594
>Vshojofags coping thread
FTFY

[Anonymous No.]

>>13613651
Cope harder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13613538
cant you read and comprehend what youre replying to you fuckin idiot

[Anonymous No.]

>>13613686
If he somehow gets popular they abandon them without skipping a beat. Feel especially sad for Mouse because she keeps hanging out with that faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13613277 wtf did veibae do to get banned by hololive?

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>>13613691
I understand you can't keeo you hate boner in your pants, but you seem to have missed the point. Just because they're in an unpleasant situation doesn't mean Nux "won," especially if he's in an even worse situation.

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>>13613731
>>13613734
>>13613778

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>>13613745
the question for some content creators, mainly more up and coming ones would be, would you rather be in the good graces of Ironmouse or Nux. With Ironmouse, you'd probably be more respected but you probably wouldn't get a big sub boost. But with Nux you'd get a sub boost, but the people going to your channel are the same people who "I PAID A YOUTUBER 7,000 TO LOOK AT FUTA HENTAI AND THEN I MADE THEM WATCH A LOGAN PAUL VIDEO OMG WOW HAHAHAHAHAHA" is the pinnacle of comedy

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Reminder that Vshojo is using this really ill girl as their main draw to the company

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>>13613425
he won the moment vshoujo decide to keep quite to hide their incompetent ass. the whole drama only got started since they felt butthurt it got exposed, especially pink cat

[Anonymous No.]

Wow, despite always shitting on hisyojo for being whores, turns out there are so many whiteknights here.

Pathetic...

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>>13613778
>Just because they're in an unpleasant situation doesn't mean Nux "won," especially if he's in an even worse situation.
Thats literally the best case scenario for me, I hope they keep flinging shit to each other until one dies and the other cant recover

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>>13613655
so what did vshoujo's security expert do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13613920
This. You dont have to support nux to shit on the whores. They will ruin vtubing by making their cunt ways the standard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13613920
isn't it more pathetic to deepthroat nux? that's fucking gay as shit bro. there are other boards for that kind of faggot shit. besides, he might have aids

[Anonymous No.]

So Nux loses one video and weeds out the backstabing whores
In return he exposes Vshojo as an unprofessional black company that's fine with letting vtubers get doxxed
Seems like a win win for Nux

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>>13613778
Nux winning is vt winning. Vshojo shouldnt exist at all.

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>>13613167
She needs to quit the internet and just become some frumpy housewife, complete detox

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>>13614046
>nux winning is vt winning
im gonna fucking puke give me a bag

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>>13614046
>The most cancerous anituber winning is vt winning
Jesus Christ, the state of this board.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that anyone is not actively shitting on vshojo is an enemy of /vt/. All vt posters must hate vshojo. Lurkers take notes.

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>>13613887
Yea that's kinda fucked up....

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>>13614080
>im gonna fucking puke give me a bag

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>>13612706
Didn't this faggot post a crying apology video?
How the fuck is that winning??

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>>13614031
how is it a win win for nux? he's going to commit suicide in less than a year due to the isolation he's going to be in, now that no other vtuber will interact with his toxic ass. lmao. le epic win against the whores bro.

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>>13614144
>Soijack
Return to reddit

[Anonymous No.]

lets settle this once and for all
https://www.strawpoll.me/45865797

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614130
nice falseflag

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614080
>>13614096
Read this post tourists >>13614130

[Anonymous No.]

>>13613887
The best people to exploit are the physically disabled

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>>13614148
He posted a non-apology basically saying "sorry you got your feelings hurt" while exposing the girls for lying kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614148
learn to read between the lines

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>>13614179
>Falseflag
This is not a falseflag it is fact. No real vt poster post vshojo. They only post hololive and nijisanji and 2views. Vshojo is the enemy time to wake up.

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>Froot deleted the tweet showing off the DM's between her and Nux
Apology incoming?

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>>13614184
>lUrKErs TAkE nOtES
reads like a redditor

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>>13613776
Coco says Taiwan, antis dogpile Coco.

Veibae tries to voice support for Coco. Chinks dogpile Veibae. Veibae backs down.

Veibae calls Cover a black company on stream (nobody intelligent actually thinks this, especially given all the stories you see occasionally reposted here detailing all the good things Yagoo did for people who had nothing). Naturally, this means Veibae is banned from collabing with Cover because a woman who caves to Chinese antis is Business Kryptonite. Naturally this means she appealed to Vshojo's taste.

To this day Kiara is still sad she can't collab with Veibae for some dumb fuckin' reason, eternally proving Kiara is a retard as well as Veibae.

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>>13614184
The funny thing is you're actually serious.

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>>13614250
this is false, true vt posters love vshojo. it's not just a coincidence that vshojo antis are all massive faggots. their faggotry and their hatred for vshojo are intrinsically linked

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>>13614302
Go back to re dd i tvshojo fan.

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>>13614148
His """apology""" video is literally just doubling down on calling them liars

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>>13614325
meme dragon ruined everything
imagine a hololive without meme dragon

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>>13614325
>Coco says Taiwan
Already wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614347
seethe

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>>13614357
Which is why literally nobody is buying it. But he still had to backpedal

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>>13614341
The funny thing is that vshojo fans think their whores are welcomed here. This is a vtuber board not cam whores with anime avatars.
>>13614345
This is a lie by vshojo poster. Do not believe this.

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>>13614407
Then why did Froot delete her reply?

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>>13614364
CN viewership was a ticking time bomb. If Coco didn't make it blow up, some else would have.

[Anonymous No.]

>why would vshojo completely change tune after thanking him for the video

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>>13614470
Because it didn't say anything. She posted DMs she made AFTER he posted the video.

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>>13614503
This is why you dont support vshojo.

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>>13614423
prepare to have your mind blown. some people on /vt/ like vshojo and some don't.
You speak for no one.

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>>13614503
>this post I made up is true because I took a screenshot of it
brainlet moment

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614512
Wrong
It's because she's wrong and will post a video sucking Nux's dick in a few hours

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614503
isn't nux fucking up the investigation by uploading a video revealing the investigation, just to suck his own dick? that sounds pretty actionable to me

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>>13614357
>>13614212
>>13614244
I watched it. He was begging for forgiveness and promising to be a better person and shit. It was pathetic.

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>>13614574
that's because you're underage and mad

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>>13614588
Nice headcanon vshojo simp

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>>13614423
>This is a vtuber board not cam whores with anime avatars.
I don't think you know where you are

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614552
Vshojo propaganda detected. 50 nyanner coins is deposited into your account.

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>>13614031
He also outed himself as an insufferable faggot (even though it would have been obvious if you paid attention to him, which I don't).
They both lose.

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>>13614593
keep crying

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>>13613350
VShojo's radio silence to protect their talent got one of their applicants swatted. They were at fault for their open auditions stunt in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614654
nuxfaggot detected. 50 loads of his pozzy aids cum deposited into your gaping, prolapsed boypuasy

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614653
>>13614654

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>>13614620
watch the video. he even used his, non-Gottfried "i am so sorry" voice. he was literally grovelling while still calling the girls liars. he was a twitching maggot while still weeping that he did nothing wrong. the worst of both worlds.

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>>13614718
>>13614710

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>>13614697
How to say you haven't followed along in one sentence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614748
>>13614654

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>>13614748
>>13614710

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>>13614470
Because the copers, seethers, and dilators are on full PR defense for their shitty western knockoff waifus. Nux has proven to multiple Vshojo whores and also Snuffy the pony-porn-drawing retard that he has receipts and their faint-couch drama queen act is as fake as their on-screen personalities.

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>>13614772
Concession accepted

[Anonymous No.]

Black company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614751
Unlike everyone supporting VShojo, I actually watched Nux's video because I don't have a pathological need to deny someone with 2mil subscribers a single view.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614772
>>13614775

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>>13614808
This. If you love vtubers hate on vshojo. It it literally free and will save the industry in the long run.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614574
CEO's said the video was fine, they both watched it and asked him to edit some things out and then said it was fine.

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>>13614364

>Herro ferrow American
>Did not meme Dorofaon do wrong to Glorious people's republic of China?
>I a humble Kwontril Williams a humble Latinx woman of Detroit region am shame by hateful actions

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>>13614808
>>13614559

[Anonymous No.]

I just want both to die, is that too much to ask?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614795
and vshojo will march on to even greater success over nux's corpse regardless of all your pathetic whining

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>>13614894

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>>13614808
>this post kills the vshojofag

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614470
Why did Nux delete his tweet to Snuffy AND the retweet to the 2view involved in this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614906
Delusional. The only success they will reach is bankruptcy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614889
>>13614917

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>>13614364
I'm actually really happy the Coco shit happened. Wouldnt want Cover to kneel to China's every whim, nowadays.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614733
That's the best way to deal with cancel mobs. To start off with something they want to hear then pitch your point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614906
They better make sure the lift those knees pretty high to get over Nux's corpse, VShojo's biggest talent doesn't even have a third of Nux's subscriber count.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614958
>>13614889

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>>13614917
I read the post in the screenshot and can confirm it's 100% bullshit. nuxfags btfo'd

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614808
The girls just self inserted in and turned into a drama shitstorm. IMO regardless Vshoujo management should had given the first step and released an official statement before any of the girls said anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13612890
But anon, simping for 2D doesn't give STDs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614964
Newflash, they still bow down to them, everyone does.

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>>13613280
You're either an edgy 12 year old that just learned about free speech or a complete retard. Neck yourself either way, you're better off dead

[Anonymous No.]

Nux lost the moment he pick a fight. He has to face againts Vshojofags + Vtuber whiteknights in generals. Especially with the whole Vshojo shitting on him on twitter, and even Mousey AND Melody took part in it, it's over for him. No matter the truth, the fact of this world is that whoever get the majority to side with them win. And in this case Nux shot himself in the dick by being overconfident on his reps withing Vtuber scene.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614979
Yeah but you're smelly and ugly so I win :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614955
that doesn't make any sense, why would their current increasing level success lead to bankruptcy? success means they're getting further away from bankruptcy, not closer, retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615019
Vshojo is on the right side of history today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614979
Everything in that QRD is factually correct with receipts, the only thing that is a rrat is about the lawyers, which any company would have them on retainer during public relations disasters

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615045
Retard.

[Anonymous No.]

ITT: retards arguing over inane bullshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>13612706
>Nuxbros
That in itself is a fat L

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615100
Thats basically the board

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615019
>>13615049
>not gatekeeping western whores from the vtubing industry
It's like you fags have no other hobbies, literally every other hobby is destroyed by them

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615100
>>13615098

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>>13614971
I never heard of him before he started this drama, I checked his subs and since he's a huge faggot it's pretty much confirmed that most of those subs are faked, probably bought with a subscriber selling service. judging from how generally dogshit he is, he probably doesn't have more than 20k real subscribers

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>>13615015
>Neck yourself either way, you're better off dead
Are you too autistic to see the irony of calling anyone else edgy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615141
>>13615098

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>>13615132
Thats what happens when you dont gatekeep hard enough, this board is full of redditards that came after holoen debut

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615132
Being inclusive is more important.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615098
no, it wasn't at the beginning of a sentence so it's fine uncapitalized

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615149
You do realize he made most of the vshojo girls? Most of them were 2views before he befriended them

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615186
holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

Why would you make your avatar edgy sans undertale. That has to one of the worst designs i've ever seen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615179
>>13615186

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615186
Why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615186
I get you're baiting but some vshojotard actually think like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614971
>>13614971
VShojo live on twitch as vtubers where even their lowest viewed talent gets way more views than Nux and their top talents get over 10 times as many viewers. They also have way more followers and subs there.
If you're going by youtube sub count Wolfychu is the 2nd biggest ENvtuber in the world.

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>>13615204
nah, that's false, I don't know of anyone who started watching vshojo because of this creep. If anything, vshojo succeeded in spite of him. there's no way this piece of human garbage was anything but a detriment

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>>13615243
Because it is. Dont question it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13612706
"I understand I'll change the thumbnail"

Even Arcanum had more tact in his manipulative behavior and that's saying something

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615019
Vyugen also joined in in shitting on him btw. He's become literally radioactive in the community, wouldn't surprise me if it extended to regular streamers as well, what with Mousey's new connections with OfflineTV and friends

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615281
Be honest. How much money did you give to these whores?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615132
>Gatekeeping
You only need to gatekeep twitchubas. Youtube side of the thing doing just fine for the western chuubas

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615204
Literally none of them were. If they were his leech ass wouldn't have gone near them.

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>>13615303
yeah, no one is going to touch nux after this. he'll be persona non grata among vtubers. but it's okay, he has a bunch of retards on /vt/ lining up to suck his dick now. an excellent trade

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>>13615281
>i don't know anyone
That's a personal problem m8, he has been a big anituber for years, the girls were leeching off his success and he liked the extra content

How do you not know any of this shit? How do you even call yourself a fan if you don't know where melody or ironmmouse came from?

[Anonymous No.]

Be honest, most of you are vshoujofags falseflagging at each other

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615323
Not him but zero.
>>13615371
He will be a /here/ vtuber and do AMAs here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614062
You had chance to mend your ways (or at least pretend to) but you just have to gangbanged someone who intended to help and allowed to

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615293
"no, i still want you to delete the video"
And none of this would've happened. It's that easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614022
Better than those backstabbing whores

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615420
Lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615435
>Not him
Who ASKED?

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>>13615354
Before vshojo, mel and ironmouse would collab with him all the time.
Nux was the was that helped mel get unbanned off twitch

God you newfags aren't even fans of your own fucking fandom

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615445
but anon she was having anxiety
she couldnt write anything else after that

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615435
that would be a nuclear-strength L

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615419
>anituber
lmao, is he really an anituber? holy shit, how much more pathetic can he get? no wonder normal people haven't heard of him

[Anonymous No.]

>An entire thread defending Nux

4chan is an 18+ website. Now get the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615521
Kek

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@13615488
Fuck you I was being nice. No more (you)s

[Anonymous No.]

So if the talent end up backing down from this, who do you think will be the first one to publicly apologize?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615540
>>13614046

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>>13612706
Any TLDR for this drama? Not giving this fucker any views and don't want to fuck my recommendations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615574
nux will probably release a proper apology soon. his career is flashing before his eyes. I don't think he can handle the isolation that will be coming if he insists on turning himself into a pariah

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615540
Using your brain doesn't make you an underage faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615574
No one. This is all fake.

[Anonymous No.]

>the guy that you leeched off of to get followers when you were a 2view
vs.
>the company that has given you an absurd amount of wealth

Vshojo girls made their choice lmao, "fans" ITT are now trying to rewrite history and say guys like nux and lostpause had nothing to do with them

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615574
I think the CEO will quit before any girl will apologize because success got into the girls heads and now sadly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615508
She got herself unbanned in a day

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615643
No, but all of his fans clearly are. So I repeat, Global Rule 2 motherfuckers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614364
> CN mainlander sent SC to spell Taiwan in SC reading

Yes, Bilibili and chinks plan it all along

[Anonymous No.]

>>13612706
WE WERE RIGHT AFTER ALL

IF THE WHORES STOPPED ATTACKING, WE WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN JOKER NUX

THANK YOU WHORES FOR BRINGING US JOKER NUX

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615624
>>13614808

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615637
He already did >>13614808
Released it on twitter, showed the girls came out of left field and didn't agree with their own CEO's

That's why people are saying PR lawyers are involved

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615675
Cope nuxcucks.

[Anonymous No.]

I don’t understand why Holo and Niji fans need to actively shit on Vshojo. They have lots of chuubas to watch at any given time but choose to mald about a relatively small company that doesn’t even have multiple gens yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615643
Not when you're using an underaged, under developed brain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615751
t. tier 3 sub

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615127
I'm just lurking having a good laugh waiting for the La+ stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615768
>>13614130

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615738
>>13614889

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615675
>guys like nux and lostpause
Wait, what? Are the girls throwing lostpause under the bus too? For the fuck what? This guy has no bite whatsoever and isn't remotely a threat?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615751
Look, if you want your oshi to be a very entitled parasite who spits out the blood they've been sucking since they were an infant and call it shit, do it, by all means

But don't you try saying that these girls didn't use a bunch of anitubers for exposure lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614808
>A term that only appeared on UD a month ago

I too can say made up bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615521
Why do they always use that same excuse, god I hate women

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615791
t.faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615823
Guessing it's cause LostPause didn't want to take a side in the shitshow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615823
No they aren't, I brought up that vshojo used these two anitubers for exposure and now vshojo fans are denying they ever had any involvement with anitubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615826
Muh morals this is vshojo not your goody goody hololive. We WANT them bad girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615834
What board do you think you're on anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615796
Same desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615867
And simps say Nux is the one burning bridges.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615838
t.tranny enabler

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615833
>black company
>a term used in japan since the 90's due to the economic depression
hmmm, it's almost like you're a newfag on a weeb website

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615834
Go crawl back to your D&D hole Arcadum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615916
T. Nazi

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615823
None of them said shit about Lost Pause
He just tweeted saying he felt bad his friends weren't getting on
>>13615885
Connor exists

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615892
>he wants a bunch of uppity cunts that will remain silent about doxxers using their info to swat innocent indies
An hero this instant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615967
No you. Go back to watching your failed gen 6.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615637
Oh nyoooo, what will he do if he can't handle it? pic unrelated

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615938
Yes and?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615929
well color me surprised

[Anonymous No.]

Froot now deleted her tweet.. there is hope for the company after all will be on standby to see if the rest are redeemable to follow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13612706
>>13612706
>Posted an apology video where he acts all sincere and apologetic
>But then provides proof that he was given permission to post his video
>Exposing pink cat as a liar
This guy must be jewish. It's such a masterful play.
Pretend to apologise while btfoing the lies of vshojo. It makes him look gracious and friendly while hurting the repuations of the girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615929
>Using a Japanese term for an English owned company

How fucking stupid are you?

[Anonymous No.]

Qrd?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616003
Cringe /pol/chud

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615892
Well yeah, most of the vshojo girls are inherently bad people who have made a plethora of bad decisions in their life

They attacked and canceled arcadum barely 2 months ago, now they are cancelling nux

Vshojo is a literal shitshow to stay away from

[Anonymous No.]

>>13614574
no, this is fucking stupid and the only people that believe this are idiots swallowing up VShojo's excuses. Barely any fans criticizing Nux have half a clue about the actual situation and just keep repeating this. Don't really give a fuck about Nux anyway, his voice is annoying, but this cybersecurity investigation shit is bullshit to anyone with half a brain.

I've worked with similar groups and game devs and experienced these kind of attacks. The first thing you do in any cybersecurity case after patching the issue, exploit, whatever, is tell people it happened, so they can change their passwords, avoid being scammed if they're targeted, so on. VShojo didn't do this to save face, and let more and more girls get doxxed. There's no police investigation that would be ruined or some shit because of this. I'd be fucking AMAZED if they even manage to get a charge against the phisher, people actually getting arrested for this is so fucking rare that their excuse makes no sense, especially since it's been going since may of this year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616024
Also
>>13616020

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616024
Cope. Vshojo won.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616046
dilate tranny lover

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615988
>failed
cope harder tranny

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616024
it was beautiful
I knew he had the receipts but he was hesitating
as soon as the attacks came, he had no choice

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616043
Anons are making mountains out of molehills, nothing to see here

[Anonymous No.]

>>13615939
Connor only got involved with them after vshojo, he was late to the vtuber party, nux was there in the beginning helping melody and ironmouse

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616081
>Those number
Pffffffttt

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616079
Sneed

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616051
>"Sexual harassment is okay if it means I get to watch more D&D"

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616106
Imagine helping whores like Melody and Ironmouse, only to have both turned their back on you over this after.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616097
Oh so now it's nothing when Vshojo are in the wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616051
>Muh morals

[Anonymous No.]

>we shouldnt disrespect the whores for lying

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616041
go home

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616117
>more people watching than subscribers
>of a vtuber who got announced the very same day
Anything else tranny??

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616145
Glad you understand. Vshojo good.
>>13616176
Viewbots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616145
I never said they were wrong, just that anons were making a big deal out of nothing

[Anonymous No.]

>vshojo utterly demolished

[Anonymous No.]

The only way Vshojo remains relevant is when stupid drama happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616138
I dislike nux a lot, but the amount he's done for all of these indies for them to treat him like trash after they used him is probably really blackpilling him
>>13616133
>vshojo used a dnd creator for months
>decide not to defend him even though all the evidence against him was a nothingburger
They are showing time and time again not to get involved with them

Vshojo are a bunch of mentally ill catty women

[Anonymous No.]

Literally no one's talking about this except /VT. Everyone else has moved on with their lives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616223
Oh no...
Anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616164
>Resorting to twitter screencaps
Ohnonononono nuxbros I thought we were better than this

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616086
>>13616024
What's going to stick is that he apologized to them.

He can say he had the CEOs permission, that's totally disconnected from the talent. Zentreya pointing out that he lied to her about the others being onboard after he'd posted it is what's going to hurt the most in the long run because he was using their assumption that he'd be honest individually with them to avoid having their collective opinion hurt his argument for posting it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616138
Mouse loves turning her back on Connor, if you know what I mean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616164
Funny that when a guy does something he is instantly put on the blast.
When it's a woman, excuses are made about how we ought to not hate her.
Fuck this gynocentric bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616291
>>13616299
>>13616287
shhhh get back to your whore general
you just kicked in the face with receipts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616286
Everyone is too busy watching gen 6 except 70+ people ITT

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616269
They're really lending credence to the Hololive model here

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616223
>mom: dont do that
>nux: dad, can i go do it?
>dad: yeah sure
>mom: what did I tell you?
>but mooom, dad said I could!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616202
>Viewbots.
that's a lot of copium

[Anonymous No.]

Man this amount of shitposting against anituber jew and Vwhore make me remember yubigate again, i swear there will be someone who unironically think nux or pink cat as a hero just like the yubigate

[Anonymous No.]

>>13612706
>liking m*le trash

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616408
Cant even deny lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616349
that's western culture anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616269
>Dozens of accusations from people he has been associated with both personal and interpersonal revealing how much of a shithead he is when anything with a vagina is near him
>"The girls used him to get more popular"

It's okay to admit you're a misogynist and move on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616402
>dont do that
didnt happen, simp

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616424
male>cam girls>tranny

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616269
>>decide not to defend him even though all the evidence against him was a nothingburger
Arcadum was ERPing with like 12 different people in VRchat in secret

[Anonymous No.]

Did anyone save the deleted froot tweet?

[Anonymous No.]

>Work with vshojo
>get destroyed
This is why smart girls know to fly solo

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616402
whose words are more important, troon?
CEO and actual men running that corpo OR the whores with blown out vaginas?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616353
>Screencapping shills
Oh no how will Vshojo ever recover

[Anonymous No.]

>you don't do whatever our mentally ill talent force you to do?
>time to get cancelled buddy
Stop collabing with this cancer, they bite the hands that feed them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616424
i only watch pure female chuubas.
whores in vshojo are worth less than dirt

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone give me a QRD? I dont pay much attention to shit like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616511
The girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616073
>I've worked with similar groups and game devs and experienced these kind of attacks. The first thing you do in any cybersecurity case after patching the issue, exploit, whatever, is tell people it happened
Look at this dude roleplaying as a cybersecurity expert

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616511
>whose words are more important
the girls he claimed are his "friends"

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616086
he truly is batman with the personality of joker

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616501
>Fly solo
>Future member of GenVLive

What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616402
So where's the evidence "mom" said not to do it??

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616513
its called public opinion and he just exposed your whores for the prostitutes they are by proving vshojo gave him the ok.
you're malding and its obvious to see

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616534
>>13616097

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616353
oh fuck what are we going to do now that this particular moron you found on twitter chimed in

Are you hoping to get some likes here?

>>13616511
The girls, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616522
They will collab with your chuuba and you will like it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616501
Didn't she get rejected by all the companies already?

[Anonymous No.]

There's an angry incel posting in every single one of this threads calling the girls whores and calling people troons

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616570
interesting, and those "friends", did they wait for the situation to solve or did they attack him on twitter with simps like you behind them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616504

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616443
Why would I have to deny obvious delusions form a VShojofag, who would only proceed to create more copium??
What is asserted without eivdence is dismissed without evidence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616458
Nothing he did was a crime, he was a lonely sperg who people propped up on some pedestal of morality
Hugging someone while crying? This is what you are publicly convicting him for?

This is women logic

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616570
Why would he betray his so-called "friends" then?
What a dick nux is

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616587
They are always whores.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616544
>believe all women

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616299
>>13616353
I'm an outsider here but if you're confident that Nux didn't manipulate them into giving their consent for it then you should be able to retort no?
From my perspective it looks like Nux was trying to frame himself like a hero in order to boost whatever new agency was just announced and give it a bounce pad with the approval of Vshojo and ended up trampling over some of their fingers in the process. The only way Nux can look good in this situation is if he had the consent of every vshojo member and has "receipts" for them to show. The CEO doesn't mean shit. Also are you all a bunch of Tik Tok fags who even calls this shit receipts that's such a faggoty thing to say it's making me dislike everyone I see using it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616624
This. I am literally shaking at all this cyber bullying that is happening right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616660
The entire problem was ignoring the input of his friends, mouthbreather.

"I had someone else's permission" doesn't have shit to do with that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616660
This but Unironically

[Anonymous No.]

Both sides going
>No we won lmao seethe cope
is the funniest shit that has come out of Vshojo in a while
Didn't even know who Nux was before all this drama

[Anonymous No.]

>believing any woman

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616544
>>13616570
>>13616596
You simps are retarded beyond belief.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616603
Lmao, pikamee has already been distancing herself from them after what happened with zentreya
Niji doesn't want to have too much to do with them
Hololive says no

I'm good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616706
How do you not know the biggest male ENtuber and the literal embodiment of the internet? Delete your post, you just posted cringe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616641
I will always claim that a viewership count of any channel in youtube to be viewbotted because that is how the site works. This is why twitch is superior.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616732
Yeah, I mean who would simp for nux of all people?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616674
I cant take simps seriously which I noticed in the first few words. not reading your cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616299
>Zen
>her

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616732
>Nuuh simp
Where do you think you are?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616578
Nyanners obviously did say not to do it but that it *seems* like that was after. It really seems like management should have talked about the video with everyone before giving nux the thumbs up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616694
If the input is to keep silent and let more people get hurt by doxxers, then you disregard those retards, simple as.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616498
https://twitter.com/iLoveTanyaVD/status/1464150548328992782?s=20
its here, the whores are getting raked over the coals

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616770
Yeah we get it, you like your e-whores to pretend to want to fuck you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616773
>simps
Do you know where you are?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616548
I could literally roleplay a retarded ape huffing petrol fumes and still figure out that telling people about a scam isn't evil actually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616881
Poor job deflecting.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616897
I know where I am. where do YOU think you are, plebbit simp?

[Anonymous No.]

I would have massive respect if they brought nux closer to group and nyanners more out but that's not going to happen

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616932
Kizuna is a sellout whore collab with vshojo doko

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616909
It's not evil but it's not helpful, and it's cringe that you pretend you have "experience in the field" when anyone who has experience in the field would tell you pretty much the exact opposite

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616858
Did she have the same social anxiety when she cheated on her husband who was in the military?

[Anonymous No.]

is anyone making a list of people on twitter thats supporting which side? i need to know who to block

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616761
Who the fuck watches male entubers, delete yourself fag

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616941
Simp website

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616858
>MY LIFE IS LITERALLY IN DANGER
Froot is a retard, Danbooru literally doxxed her artist tag for years. Hell, when I was in several /k/ groups with her she'd basically just post pictures of herself constantly even when she was underage b&

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616771
I don't even like the guy, but when it comes to compromised cybersecurity, keeping silent about it and backstabbing someone who warns the public about it is immensely retarded.
If my university did a stunt like that and didn't tell us they got a cybersecurity problem, everyone would sue it to hell and back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616761
>the literal embodiment of the internet?
Oh my fucking God

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616992
Browse them yourself twitterfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616976
damn bro crazy how they'd be wrong then. Do you really think companies don't tell people "hey btw we're being impersonated?" cause man these emails say different.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616838
Is Nyanners the CEO??
No.
Her saying something after it was posted means shit.
Imagine if I asked a CEO of some company for permission, he granted it to me, and then some office slave wagecuck started bitching at me not to do it.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>13613277
>Redditors
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616747
>pikamee has already been distancing herself from them
She raided ironmouse twice last week
>>13616747
>Niji doesn't want to have too much to do with them
Crab game collab and selen froot apex in recent weeks
>>13616747
>Hololive says no
Risu guest on ironmouses show next week

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616747
>>Hololive says no
>>Mousey has two upcoming collabs with Mori and a collab with Risu next week

Keep it up, you're doing great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617069
>Do you really think companies don't tell people "hey btw we're being impersonated?"
They tell as little people as possible
For example if someone is using vshojo.org to send out fake emails to other vtubers in order to dox them, you would tell the vtubers likely be to recieve the emails, you wouldn't tell the entire fucking world

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616504
>>13616632
>>13616800
>>13616844
>>13616932
>>13617107
I love you kizunanon

[Anonymous No.]

>based on info yesterday believe vshitshow (company) is the bad guy and the girls are just retarded for publicly circling the wagons, likely because nyanners is fucking the CEO/has a stake in the company
>girls continue whining
>forces annoying jew to release more evidence proving vshitshow (company) is relatively reasonable, maybe even endearingly incompetent like COVER if anything, but their girls are insane duplicitous whores
this proves once and for all that EN whores were a mistake

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616478
>male better
Then where are the ultra popular male vtubers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616646
This is your brain on incel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617087
>office slave wagecuck
talent aren't slaves, their opinion is more important than the management here

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

If I post hard enough in this thread, nux might actually win

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617087
It's understandable for you to be upset about everything all at once but being angry about something you don't even understand at the basic level is extreme.

The entire issue is and was always ignoring what the talent, his "Friends", were saying to him. You don't have to like it, but that is what the controversy is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617311
it doesnt even matter who wins, nux has definitively proven that EN whores were a mistake and collabs with males were a mistake

[Anonymous No.]

We know Mel was a part of nux chat. Can't wait to see if she will have a response or pretend like nothing happened on twitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617321
>if my (((friends))) tell me to jump off a bridge i should do it

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617181
yeah except they didn't even do that. So what's their fucking excuse?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617376
>Clickbait videos are "definitive proof" now
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617376
If I keep making anti vshojo images on ms paint it will totally own them vshojos that will show them

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617376
The only people to believe this are the ones who would already be calling them whores.

What Nux proved is he had someone else's permission. That turns it into a lack of consent issue for the company as well, but 'We didn't ask' is not as bad as 'I was told directly how they felt but ignored them or in at least one case lied about how everyone else felt to make that person think it was okay.'

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617224
Name a crime he was convicted of?
The only things the girls criticized him for was "emotional labor"

Stop being retarded, vshojo cancelled a man they were leeching off of for months, and now they just did it to a man they've been leeching off of for well over a year.

Vshojo girls have a pattern of being actual pieces of shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617449
>yeah except they didn't even do that
It might not have been neccessary depending on the circumstance, apparently the domain was only up for a week and 2 people were affected by it or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617403
She already denounced him, that's why everyone is saying this is a PR lawyer having the company libel him in public

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617403
Melody will just masturbate and people will forgive her. She's a 1 trick pony.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617523
vshojo didn't cancel arcadum, other girls did
and being cancelled isn't punishment for commiting a crime, if you commit a crime you go to jail
he just got cancelled for being a creep

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617508
They did sex work
They are whores
Deal with it

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617569
nope, that was the .org, there was also a .net up since May that had the same name. And vshojo just never mentioned it, kinda like how they're avoiding mentioning they said Nux was fine at first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617464
>>13617463
>>13617508
Both CEO's of vshojo asked for edits of the video, got the edits, then said the video was okay to publish

Are you saying the vshojo CEO's are lying?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617635
>nope
>nope
>cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617523
When you're a DM even /tg/ won't discuss, you know you fucked up. Arcadum is a clear example of FAFO and to defend him is to prove you like idiots who don't think beyond their dick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617603
>>13617569
>>13617449
Can any of you explain why you think that matters? It doesn't seem relevant at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617321
The talents, the friends, telling him to keep quiet about an issue that needed to be adressed otherwise innocent indies could get hurt means the talents are fucking retarded, not that Nux betrayed their trust.
You don't enable your friends in shitty behavior that endangers others, now do you??

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617674
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617321
Gee what nice bunch of friends throwing him under the bus like that when this whole issue was a management fault.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617670
well like I said, when sensitive information is at stake you tell as little people as possible, more details need to be known to draw a conclusion, but unless they were sending out emails to the public at large, which they weren't, the public at large doesn't need to know

[Anonymous No.]

Since no one is explaining anything this is what ive gathered from the thread

>another company is pretending to be vshojo to phish people
>vshojo not adequately dealing with the problem
>nux wants to make a video about it so he does and asks the CEO if he can release it
>he is given permission and releases the video
>vshojo whores attack him for revealing this problem to the public

Look, I dont like Nux and that anituber LOLOL SO HORNY HENTAI shit is gigacringe but how the fuck is he in the wrong here? Am I missing something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617674
No, I'm saying you're a retard who doesn't read what you're replying to.
>What Nux proved is he had someone else's permission.

What permission he got from the CEOs was never relevant to what happened between him and the talent, which has always been the controversy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617508
He still took the time to take video down but good old nyanners threw everyone under the bus that she told him that her and the girls told him take video down before uploading it which is Bullshit based on receipts. This is excluding the fact that she threw the company under the bus and made it known that doxxing and swatting was going on during their time period investigation

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617753
He literally said in the video that he was doing it in spite of people telling him not to.
What do you think he meant by that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617769
They were though with the auditions. And even still didn't tell anyone at all. 'lmao we're protecting vshojo girls' by just letting indies get swatted, very cool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617774
But anon, the girl's feelings are much more important than people getting doxxed and swatted, you must understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617774
Vshojo fans being mentally ill, but everyone knew that already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617845
>They were though with the auditions
do you have a source for that information?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617087
>office slave wagecuck started bitching at me not to do it.
That's a retarded comparison. The only streamer in Vshojo who's easily replaced is Hime. If you're managing a band and 1 (or two I guess looking at those deleted froot tweets) of the members doesn't want to do a show you need to at least talk to them about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617859
Exactly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617630
Vshojo DID cancel arcadum, they all publicly came out with statements decrying him, despite none of them knowing really why

Arcadum wasn't a creep, arcadum had mental issues and became too popular.
Vshojo publicly shamed a man for his mental health issues after exploiting him for his popularity for months.
These same girls make posts about destigmatizing mental health awareness, while attacking it.

This is cancer, they are cancer. you are cancer for defending it.

You can criticize arcadum, especially as a friend, make a statement, but don't fucking cancel him for shit you didn't personally experience.
The same in this case for Nux, why the fuck did hime hajime come out of her cave to make a statement against nux?
She barely uses that twitter account.

This all stinks like women who have been given too much power for no good reason and it's being used irresponsibly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617670
Actually they mentioned the .net domain in their statement, it was up for less than 2 hours in May and was taken down immediately after they tried phishing Vshojo members emails with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617927
Good thing I am cancer. I fucking love vshojo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617894
Ah yes, need permission from talents who would rather memory hole their cybersecurity problems that fucked over people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617927
>Unironically defending Arcadum
You can't be serious

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617774
Pretty much, its Vshoujo a management fuck up for not addressing the issue first themselves nor putting the girls on a leash.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617774
This describes it >>13614808
Only thing we haven't confirmed yet is the lawyer part.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617894
Froot can be dumped too, if anything she is a liability at this point for constantly causing drama without the pull. Everyone else at least generates revenue for the company, even the TTS tranny dragon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616491
open up ff14 and enter limsa lominsa, then cancel everyone there

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617774
From what i'm guessing, Nyanner's leaked discord vent messages spooked everyone into disavowing Nux, considering Vshojo made a tweet thanking him about it before deleting it, as well as certain other vtubers like Bao and such actually praising him before backtracking and deleting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617837
Probably trying to hype up his video but Receipts don't lie

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617927
>they all publicly came out with statements decrying him
so did dozens of people, the people who cancelled him weren't from vshojo

>Arcadum wasn't a creep
ERPs with 12 trannies on Discord by getting them to pity him then sexually forcing himself on them isn't being a creep?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617774
I don't follow any non holo vtubers so I'm pretty foreign to all of this, but this is pretty much what I was able to gather as well. The fact that the phishing links were still active and people could potentially give their information away justifies nux in blowing cover early. It's just not morally right to use other indies as bait for your sting operation.

If I'm misunderstanding something I'd love to be corrected though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617886
... do you know how auditions work dude? They email people who apply to tell them if they made it through the round. I know a few girls who applied and it seemed nearly everyone passed round 1. That's done with emails dude.

[Anonymous No.]

Is this going to affect the Yugioh pogression series? Because thats what I watch Nux for and love seeing people flub thier way through old school Yugioh

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617927
>"Women having power is bad"

Go back to /pol/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618133
Unironic feminist shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618089
Yes, I'm asking if he has a source on that being used to phish people
Although it seems pretty clear he's just trying to twist the truth because he has a massive hateboner for vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617837
That he takes it personal for already being swated in a different incident and has a chip over the hot takes the girls gave him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13613280
there's no free speech in Canada

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>>13617993
I am 1000% against cancel culture, >>13617980 is a cancer who claps for it because his oshi tells him what's right and wrong, despite being menhera and constantly changing her mind.

The vshojo CEO's personally vetted Nux's video and said it was okay to publish and thanked him for it, nyanners going menhera and looking like a piece of shit about a doxx of hers that has existed for 8+ years that had nothing to do with the current phishers shows that this whole situation makes vshojo look bad

This isn't defensible, you need to demand your oshi walk back these kinds of attacks and blacklisting before it causes the company to self-destruct

[Anonymous No.]

There is actually 0% chance the doxxnigger isn't the one samefagging these threads up. If you saw the Vshojo spoof site before it was taken down you'd know they have Nyanners deeply embedded inside their head, all free of charge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618133
cringe

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618113
If you think this would affect the guy's videos you must be underaged.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618133
Women? no.
Menheras with the combined mental age of 12? Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618203
Fuck off /pol/chud

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618251
>This isn't defensible
Yes it is, the CEOs opinion doesn't overrule Nyanners or anyone elses in the company

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618057
He didn't sexually force himself on anyone
He hugged one girl while crying and she complained that she thinks he might have had a boner, that's it, which is a common female friend gaslighting after the fact thing to do
None of the other complaints are sexual in nature

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>>13618315
It does. The CEO runs the company, not them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618053
Probably referring to his brother or management saying we are against it but do it anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618251
>Muh morals
>Writes long as paragraphs about it
Umm sweety please shinde kudasai

[Anonymous No.]

Why is vshojo always caught up in drama? If it smells like shit wherever you go you should check your shoe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618066
>The fact that the phishing links were still active
The phishing campaign was active for 6 days. Nux video was released 1 month after the end of the campaign.
The campaign did only two victims, confirmed by the network provider. Both victims were contacted. So no, people wouldn’t be able to send more information to the doxxers.

Also an investigation involving a cybersecurity firm, local law enforcement and federal law enforcement was still going on at the time of the video was released.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618133
>mentality ill women who show they have a proven track record of abusing said power irresponsibly is bad
yes
>>13618315
Then the problem is the CEO's, but nyanners didn't attack them, did she
She attacked the guy who had permission from her bosses to post it

Indefensible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618371
He didn't physically force himself on people, but he did force himself on them
He didn't do anything illegal, but he was definitely being a creep
Most of the complaints were sexual in nature. Did you even read them? Most of them were about him ERPing with people on VR chat

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618053
>>13618242

>I wanted to make this public despite the fact that people told me not to

He has receipts that the CEOs told him it was okay, but clearly other people involved didn't agree. The internal matter of whether Vshojo should be communicating with their talent's wishes should be addressed but it's not a defense of Nux for ignoring the people he'd been working with and gaining mutual benefit from for so long.

If he wanted to make a video about his own experience he could have done it, and had already made a public post about the danger of phishing without incident. It's not hard to understand why being dragged into it even more was not what the others wanted, so it's not hard to see why they'd be mad at Nux for doing it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618417
It was this drama that made me find out some more stuff about Froot's past, considering I barely knew jackshit about her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618311
Nigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618392
>long paragraphs
>only 113 words
You aren't gonna make it man

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618472
Well Nux was in the wrong for posting a video about a sensitive issue concerning other people without their permission. The CEO shouldn't factor into it. If the CEO gave him the ok to do it, the CEO is also at fault

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618534
Alright chud, now you're asking for it.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>13618472
>her bosses
This isn't an office and they aren't her bosses

[Anonymous No.]

No, you can't groom adult women.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618559
>>13618534

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618582
Kek youll be banned too idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618582
You're so dumb holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618482
I read every actual complain with his counter evidence, only the hugging instance was one where it was physically sexual
The other woman he was sleeping with was consensual

Every other complain was that arcadum was emotionally needy and needed to talk to girls who didn't know how to respond to him

These are the facts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618722
>physically sexual
You didn't say "physically" sexual. ERPing is sexual. Why are you moving the goalposts and avoiding the truth trying to defend this dude?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618610
If you can't read at a 3rd grade level I don't know what to tell you, spend time reading more than watching mentally ill women

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking love this drama.
Let them fight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618497
I should also mention that you could tell there was going to be a problem before hitting play. The thumbnail of the video is blatantly everyone who wouldn't want to be involved in a video about the subject being highlighted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618780
i never moved the goalposts, I do not consider ERP'ing sexual and neither does the law, this is why cops have to get pedos to come to the location of a sting instead of going to a house.

Making ERP an offense is retarded, it makes you look like a mental midget and over reactionary

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618417
Because they answer directly to the drama instead of keeping quiet while the management handle PR.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618417
What else do they have to offer?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618894
It's literally called EROTIC roleplay how is it not sexual?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618894
You've moved the goalposts about 5 times. This isn't about him being a criminal. It's about him being a creep. ERPing with someone is sexual, forcing yourself on someone through ERP is definitely creepy

[Anonymous No.]

This thread is just /vsj/ at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

Does nux give jews a good name?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618417
Anything american is bounded to be caught in drama, even worse when the group is predominantly female

[Anonymous No.]

>>13619072
Spice girls?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13619115
They're from England you dunce

[Anonymous No.]

>>13619012
nux singlehandedly cured my anti semitism

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618953
>>13618962
Calling ERP creepy, especially when the guy is a imagination obsessed sperg, makes you two incels

Physical sexual harassment is the only thing that makes someone creepy.
Chris chan was a joke before he actually slept with his mother.

You two don't realize you have moved the goal posts so far in your head with what you consider actionable offenses that now imaginary crimes are now worth erasing someone.

Honestly reflect on why you have gone this far, I never liked arcadum and think he is a faggot, the same as nux, but I think Vshojo, and by extension, you two fags for defending them, are even bigger faggots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13619135
Froot and vei are UK.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/VShojoOfficial/status/1407502510529646592?s=20
Did you guys knew that thing never happened, so it means they also lie about other stuff too lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618953
it's called erotic because eros is the greek word for the horny emotion
it's not sexual because no sex happens
this isn't as hard as you're making it

[Anonymous No.]

>>13619072
Never let American femoids into your groups, got it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13619151
>Calling ERP creepy
I'm not calling ERP creepy. I'm calling it creepy when you try get people to pity you and then force yourself on them sexually when they let their guard down creepy. That's predatory behaviour. Not to the degree that it should be criminal because it is only online, but it's definitely creepy behaviour, and he did it with over a dozen different people
It's like you're deliberately ignoring things

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617774
basically

[Anonymous No.]

>>13619279
Vshojo lying, Nah never LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618066
>your sting operation
there is/was no sting operation
its a lie

[Anonymous No.]

>>13618133

[Anonymous No.]

>>13617774
That's basically it. VShojofags are mentally ill. It's kind of a prerequisite to be able to enjoy them. What else is new?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13619281
We have been telling you this ever since this site was created, you own fault if you refuse to listen. Females always ruin everything because their only focus when joining a group is becoming the main focus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13619298
You are framing it as predatory behavior because you allowed the collective to gaslight your perception of the events,.

I went in not caring about arcadum at all, reviewed all the evidence, and it showed he was a mentally unwell man who was desperate for people to give him meaningful interactions.

Especially for someone like you on /vt/, you shouldn't be so quick to judge people who have lived a life of being a loser.
What he did could have been you.

Arcadum stated he never felt that any of his interactions were specifically predatory, but understood that they could be construed as that.

A common thing women do, is gaslight others and reframe an event that had previously happened.
This goes from
>me and this boy got drunk and we fucked in the bathroom
to
>this man got me drunk and raped me in the bathroom

This is what happened in this case against arcadum, and it's similarly happening against nux in a lesser degree.
Nyanners originall made a statement decrying the video.
Then she framed him as a person as a terrible human being who does things to hurt her and her friends.

This is gaslighting.

[Anonymous No.]

Froot and now mouse deleted tweets to nux. We won bros?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13619687
>you allowed the collective to gaslight your perception of the events,.
No, I only read the accounts, he did exactly what I described, made friends with people, got them into VR chat and did his sthick where he takes advantage of their sympathy to get himself off
>it showed he was a mentally unwell man who was desperate for people to give him meaningful interactions.
and? you're making an excuse for his actions. I agree with that assessment, but he's still a creep who preyed on people
>Arcadum stated he never felt that any of his interactions were specifically predatory
Are you fucking serious? Of course he didn't "feel" they were predatory, he's a sociopath, he doesn't give a shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>13619687
the social aspect is also important, they only had a problem with how arcadum acted towards them after the first person came forward with a story about how he did something, then suddenly months or years later the others also had a problem.

same with nux, once nyanners said he did something wrong suddenly everyone said it

[Anonymous No.]

>>13619778
Nah, they are just trying to memoryhole their fuck up. Unless they apologise for being cunts, Nux did not win. The damage is already done, he already is a praiah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13619778
What did ironmouse post?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13613412
both are shit, actually

[Anonymous No.]

>>13619778
PFFFFF HAHAHAHAHAA

[Anonymous No.]

>>13619938
Nux bad, delete post later (yeah we all fucked up)

[Anonymous No.]

>>13620036
Her initial tweet is still up though

https://twitter.com/ironmouse/status/1463634172019367942

[Anonymous No.]

>https://twitter.com/Veibae/status/1463634527352410118
this didn't age well

[Anonymous No.]

>>13619842
>did his sthick where he takes advantage of their sympathy to get himself off
How is that his shtick, you let gaslighting irresponsibly frame the events
>it's a proven pattern of behavior!
Yes, but his intentions were all made up by the people canceling him

>and? you're making an excuse for his actions. I agree with that assessment, but he's still a creep who preyed on people
I am criticizing dogpile cancelling someone who shows evidence of mental issues, especially by people not involved who have previously virtue signaled the importance of mental health awareness

>Are you fucking serious? Of course he didn't "feel" they were predatory, he's a sociopath, he doesn't give a shit
Again, framing, you allowed all of his mental issues be framed as if he was doing everything with malicious intent
The truth is that anyone with a history of depression and bad decisions will have attachment issues that might prove too strong for other people


He acts like a woman, and women don't like that.
It's not anything cancel worthy, he never committed any actual harm to anyone besides giving some girls a head ache in how to deal with an overly needy mental case.

Vshojo jumped on a bandwagon to hurt a man when they shouldn't, they could have easily just not posted anything about it and never streamed with him again.
They did not.

Vshojo girls are prime "we must cancel and brigade everyone" women.
This is bad for the community as a whole, because anime otaku culture has always been borderline in the west, which is why people like nyanners has canceled loli/trap from her community.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13620248
Ohh guess the won on her main page is not being publicly shown to me. Guess they feel their image is being tarnished

[Anonymous No.]

more like sux kaku lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>13620358
Nothing she says ages well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13620358
>we told you not to
>actually no one told me not to
>here you admit someone told you not to
>uh that was about brother

[Anonymous No.]

>>13620404
It's because she replied to it, you don't see the full chain of tweets unless you click on it

[Anonymous No.]

>>13620358
Still applies, still funny
>>13620529
people vs person
Your english reps, please

[Anonymous No.]

>>13620373
>you let gaslighting irresponsibly frame the events
No I didn't, that is literally what happened without any framing of intent
He didn't act with malicious intent, but he is a sociopath, and people deserve to know what he was doing at least, because it was abusive
Making people aware of sociopaths is not bad for any community, even though people go overboard in their reactions cancelling people, I don't think people went overboard in Arcadum's case. People shouldn't keep his dirty secrets and allow him to go on mistreating others just because he's "mentally ill"

[Anonymous No.]

It's pretty clear what happened.

https://twitter.com/VShojoOfficial/status/1463325838288605185
>VShojo doesn't buy the website vshojo.org, leading to attackers buying it.
This was fuck-up #1.

https://twitter.com/SakiiNightshade/status/1450633574000971776
https://twitter.com/Nux_Taku/status/1450855730454663172
>VShojo doesn't notify the public of the attacker-controlled website. This leads to Sakii Nightshade (and almost Nux) getting phished, doxxed, and swatted. Swatting has killed people in the past, and could have killed them.
This was fuck-up #2.

https://files.catbox.moe/gvmygt.jpg
>Nux investigates on his own and gets some doxx about the attacker.
>VShojo cybersecurity guy says SOME of the doxx is disinfo purposely spread by the attacker.
>Nux says he doesn't plan on releasing any doxx.

https://files.catbox.moe/opglo7.jpg
>Cybersecurity guy says they knew about him for a while, but didn't talk about it publicly because they were worried the notoriety would embolden them to swat more.
This is similar to the concerns people have when media outlets mention the names of serial killers, as they're worried it will embolden them and inspire copycats. At the same time, most people want to know if there is a serial killer on the loose, for their own safety. It's a controversial topic.

https://files.catbox.moe/ek5fll.jpg
>Nux says his video won't doxx, and "is focused on people being careful and not falling for these scams".

https://files.catbox.moe/hrurza.jpg
>Nux says "I think the good outweighs the bad by publicizing this"
>Cybersecurity guy says he understands, and that "IN THE PAST", they didn't talk about it publicly because they're worried saying anything would have caused more harassment.
>He says "I am not saying this as a criticism of whether or not you should do a video, that is entirely your right to do so as a victim and we don't have a problem with that".
At this point it's clear the desire to hide the info isn't a law enforcement request, since the cybersecurity guy would have notified Nux if that were the case.

https://files.catbox.moe/16ttt6.jpg
>Nux shows them the video so they can give direct feedback.

https://files.catbox.moe/xo9h0a.jpg
>Cybersecurity guy gives direct feedback to blur out a name, and Nux complies.

https://files.catbox.moe/8rnzzi.mp4 (timestamp 00:00:58)
>Nux says the only person who asked him not to post the video prior to posting it was his brother, out of fear for his safety.

https://files.catbox.moe/vcxjp7.jpg
>Cybersecurity guy says "I appreciate that you are doing the public service announcement".
At this point it's clear he's got the cybersecurity guy's approval. He gave direct feedback on the video, and thanked Nux multiple times for it.

https://files.catbox.moe/32hzkc.jpg
>Cybersecurity guy asks him to link to the official VShojo statement in his video.
>He says it's about answering FAQs, and explaining that the contract language in the phishing email isn't real.
>Nux complies, and links the statement in his video.
They also replied to his tweet with their official statement, but eventually deleted that statement.

https://files.catbox.moe/brhynf.jpg
>Cybersecurity guy says the official statement was written assuming the reader watched his video.
>Cybersecurity guy says "we appreciate you being understanding and working with us too!"
More approval from the cybersecurity guy.

https://files.catbox.moe/agwc71.jpg
>The tweet from VShojo official thanking Nux for working with them.

https://files.catbox.moe/8rnzzi.mp4 (timestamp 00:01:30)
>Nux says the VShojo tweet got taken down after the girls complained.
>Nux says the VShojo girls claimed he was repeatedly asked not to post the video.
>Nux says this is a lie.

The VShojo girls turned on him in these tweets.
https://twitter.com/LichVtuber/status/1463642844229423106
https://twitter.com/ProjektMelody/status/1463681283666718720
https://twitter.com/zentreya/status/1463648964406882306
https://twitter.com/_Silvervale_/status/1463636206974124033
https://twitter.com/ironmouse/status/1463634172019367942
https://twitter.com/HimeHajime_VSJ/status/1463672761889427456
https://twitter.com/Veibae/status/1463634527352410118

And this Discord statement by Nyanners.
https://files.catbox.moe/iybh35.jpg

At this point, we're just waiting for VShojo girls to post proof that they told him not to post the video.

The public is split on this.

VShojo girls and their fans complain that he should have taken their feelings and safety into account.

Indie VTubers and their fans complain that VShojo should have made a public statement earlier. They should have cared more about the safety of indies, and that indies have fewer resources to get support for doxxing and swatting compared to big corporate VTubers.

[Anonymous No.]

Great so at best mouse and Mel might still be his friends and we would be lucky if he is still chill with froot and zen. Because froot did delete her post before other v-thots might, and zens post seemed like a the others told me to do it kind of post but I guess they understand the situation better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13620840
None of them like this dude anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>13620674
I agree that all the people involved can and should talk about it.
The vshojo girls putting out statements about him being a disgusting person was completely unneeded and did nothing but make matters worse.

The vast majority of the people accusing him of anything was literal nothing, they were mostly 2views cloutchasing.

The two girls with realistic claims against him told their piece and it should have stayed there, instead, as dogpiling does, other girls who experienced nothing, framed their innocuous interactions with him as if some predator was grooming them, which wasn't the case.

Arcadum slept with a girl who knew he was having an on and off relationship with his ex wife.
Arcadum cried and hugged a girl who felt like she didn't want to be his emotional tampon.

These are the only two real claims against him, and it's okay that they came out.
Everything else was a twitter hatemob by people who weren't really involved but pretended to be.

[Anonymous No.]

Yeah they only seem to be holding back so that blame doesn't get dumped on Mel

[Anonymous No.]

>>13620770
Saving this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13620770
Don't know if they have proof of receipts if they told him not to post it. He seems rather confident making his video statement and he wouldn't have done it if they had proof to make him look further of an asshole. Froot deleted post is like a yeah we have nothing on him I am going to save face deleting my post about him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13620952
So now you're backpedalling again to pretending that forcing himself on others in VR chat was nothing? Is this some sort of projection because you're also a sociopath and you think this behaviour should be accepted?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13620840
Laywer-san says they can't be friends anymore because he hurt the company

[Anonymous No.]

I don't realy care that much, but telling the guy who was doxxed and swatted to not use his avatar and doxx himself in his apology video because it's tone deaf to use it for apology is pretty fucked up move from twitter mob. And tone deaf.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616504

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>>13621082
>but telling the guy who was doxxed and swatted to not use his avatar and doxx himself in his apology video because it's tone deaf to use it for apology is pretty fucked up move from twitter mob
People are clearing saying he should have just done audio only

[Anonymous No.]

>>13616106

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>>13621046
No, I'm a pretty normal guy, probably more so since I'm one of the minority here in /vt/ with a job and gf, I also think you are a pretty normal guy as well

We obviously both can look at the situation critically, the guy isn't a good person, but he never pretended to be.
Arcadum only ever was a DM that everyone wanted to use for content, they never gave a shit about him, and when his issues came up, most of them distanced themselves

I can only imagine how someone with mental illness feels when they are constantly used but emotionally abandoned when he needs others

[Anonymous No.]

>>13620770
capped

[Anonymous No.]

>>13621141
Why would you waifu someone who most probably wont even survive this decade?