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General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

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>>13498582
geez, chill out noel

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These numbers are kinda low for a totsu

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Sasuga nijirock slayer

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Miko has mentioned Noel's birthday like 5 times and still hasn't ended it. She's just showing off her model. Looks like someone is going to get suspended.

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>>13498683
better hit 50k to be unslippable.

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>>13498683
I mean it's been boring af so far.

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>>13498290
>he doesn't know Haachama is the person behind it all

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>>13498290
I doubt anyone outside of this schizo board has ever heard of that.

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>>13498725
Haachama did indeed too a shine for HolofightZ, including featuring it prominently as one of her recurring "commercial breaks"

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where the fuck are the guests jezas

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>Kizuna trying to reach 2.99M subs, 2021, colorized
She's fighting hard to avoid walking backwards to 2,97M, isn't it?

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Mori RIP : 598,194 likes
Gura KING : 589,116 likes
less than 1K

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>Miko keeps streaming and talking about Noel
What is her problem? End it and funnel.

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>>13498817
>598,194
>589,116
>less than 1K
Numbers thread, everyone

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>>13498817
quickly anon, delete this

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>>13498817
????

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>>13498823
>>13498688
Not sure if you guys are just trolling but i'm pretty sure they only can't overlap 3D Streams and Outfit Reveals.

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>>13498837
Oh fuck, my typo

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>>13498817
I'm screencapping this shit

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>>13498811
>Kizuna treadmill subs
Would be funny if another Holo overtakes hee for 3M subs. I'd say Pekora and Mori can overtake her next year.

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>>13498817
What?

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ENTER

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>>13498857
They just want bigger numbers for Noel. Miko's going to join the totsu at some point though.

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>>13498865
Don't worry, Gura will hit 4 million before she hits 3

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>>13498857
Personally I dont care. But everyone else cleared out for Noel for the first hour. ID doesn't count.

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>>13498817
G-gura?

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>>13498817
Holofriends, your elementary school level math reps...

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>>13498857
>they only can't overlap 3D Streams and Outfit Reveals.
what are you talking about? they can do it but usually won't to show unity within the company.

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>Noel only at 48k
This will slip

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Does any one know who has the 5th highest likes video? All I know are RIP, KING, REFLECT, and Ochame Kinou. (Holo only)

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>>13498900
>to show unity within the company.
It's not just that. It's not good for numbers, a little like scheduling over the World Cup final, the SuperBowl or whatever sportsball big game there is in your place of residence

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>>13498857
They can’t overlap JP outfit reveals*

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Finally some good guests to get to 50k

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Suisei and Towa calling in.

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Enter the pride of hololive

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>>13498908
I don't see any big streams for holo or niji though? Unless kuzuha do the same gimmick as maimoto with pokemon this noel totsu will 99% win.

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alright, Noel is unslippable now.

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50k get

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Suisei and Towa for the 50k capture

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>>13498959
50k isn't good enough to get a gold more often than not.

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Watch Noel slip to Pekora's oneblock

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>>13498964
Trying to use the Slip-up Curse on Noel i see

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>>13498972
Pekora took a win with only 26k.

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>>13498994
someone post the screenshot lol

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ENTER MIGOTI

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>>13498972
On any other day old man maimoto would have won, he just happened to pick the most stacked holo day to do his challenge.

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>calling into Noel's stream while still streaming
Miko, what the fuck? Stop it. She's gonna be hated for this.

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>>13498972
M-maimoto..

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Miko called Noel, i think she was just waiting for her turn to call.
If she ends right now then i think this is a new view funneling strat.

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>>13498914

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>>13499039
kek Miko is taking notes from Pekora's sigma streaming method of streaming over other people's event lmao

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Btw did Marine/Flare called? I saw their ava
Are they off collabing?

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>>13498914
what are you talking about? stop making things up. Mio streamed over the new year outfit relay at the beginning of this year

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twitter numbers

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>>13499071
They are staying over for the night, they showed up briefly in the beginning but they didn't actually answer any questions

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>>13499082
>only trending at 4th
Trash.
>>13499071
offpako
Marine gets to watch only

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>>13499071
They are at noels house, they've showed up twice now I think between guests.

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>>13498972
>50k isn't good enough to get a gold more often than not.
Yes it is. Here is a list of silvers for the month of November so far

>2021-11-01 :: 31541 :: Pekora (Hololive)
>2021-11-02 :: 37603 :: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>2021-11-03 :: 38754 :: Shion (Hololive)
>2021-11-04 :: 24261 :: Korone (Hololive)
>2021-11-05 :: 35056 :: Pekora (Hololive)
>2021-11-06 :: 45785 :: Pekora (Hololive)
>2021-11-07 :: 36533 :: Marine (Hololive)
>2021-11-08 :: 49804 :: Aqua (Hololive)
>2021-11-09 :: 35038 :: Pekora (Hololive)
>2021-11-10 :: 48573 :: Marine (Hololive)
>2021-11-11 :: 47363 :: Shibuya Hal (merise)
>2021-11-12 :: 31268 :: Pekora (Hololive)
>2021-11-13 :: 46496 :: Suisei (Hololive)
>2021-11-14 :: 34569 :: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>2021-11-15 :: 35839 :: Pekora (Hololive)
>2021-11-16 :: 25194 :: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>2021-11-17 :: 28113 :: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>2021-11-18 :: 55333 :: Haachama (Hololive)
>2021-11-19 :: 29346 :: Hajime (Nijisanji)
>2021-11-20 :: 51413 :: Marine (Hololive)
>2021-11-21 :: 83690 :: Pekora (Hololive)
>2021-11-22 :: 31246 :: Toya (Nijisanji)
>2021-11-23 :: 56025 :: Marine (Hololive)

50k only failed to get gold four times, against
>2021-11-18 :: 82,489 :: Pekora (Hololive)
>2021-11-20 :: 95,074 :: にじさんじ (Nijisanji)
>2021-11-21 :: 88,214 :: にじさんじ (Nijisanji)
>2021-11-23 :: 57,603 :: Pekora (Hololive)

It is not impossible that Pekora could take it tho, but that surely wouldn't count as slippage

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>>13499105
>Marine gets to watch only
That sounds so wrong without context lol

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>>13499039
Miko has more clout than anybody in Hololive not named Sora. She can do whatever she wants.

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>>13498725
check what's playing on Chammer's TV in the background https://youtu.be/UOFSCbraOnY?t=241

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>>13499128
>watch only
MarineNoel bath stream flashback...Kanata

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shuba was passed by

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>>13499113
Bruh
>2021-11-22 :: 31246 :: Toya (Nijisanji)

Subaru won this day with 31586
>2021-11-22 :: 31586 :: Subaru (Hololive)

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>>13499165
She even reacted to it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl8xdJzj3rk

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sora doko

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>>13499193
shuba passed by

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ENTER DAISENPAI

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>>13499200
anonchama...

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>>13499113
>2021-11-01 :: 31541 :: Pekora (Hololive)
>2021-11-02 :: 37603 :: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>2021-11-03 :: 38754 :: Shion (Hololive)
>2021-11-04 :: 24261 :: Korone (Hololive)
>2021-11-05 :: 35056 :: Pekora (Hololive)
>2021-11-06 :: 45785 :: Pekora (Hololive)
>2021-11-07 :: 36533 :: Marine (Hololive)
>2021-11-08 :: 49804 :: Aqua (Hololive)
>2021-11-09 :: 35038 :: Pekora (Hololive)
>2021-11-10 :: 48573 :: Marine (Hololive)
>2021-11-11 :: 47363 :: Shibuya Hal (merise)
>2021-11-12 :: 31268 :: Pekora (Hololive)
>2021-11-13 :: 46496 :: Suisei (Hololive)
>2021-11-14 :: 34569 :: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>2021-11-15 :: 35839 :: Pekora (Hololive)
>2021-11-16 :: 25194 :: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>2021-11-17 :: 28113 :: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>2021-11-18 :: 55333 :: Haachama (Hololive)
>2021-11-19 :: 29346 :: Hajime (Nijisanji)
>2021-11-20 :: 51413 :: Marine (Hololive)
>2021-11-21 :: 83690 :: Pekora (Hololive)
>2021-11-22 :: 31586 :: Subaru (Hololive)
>2021-11-23 :: 56025 :: Marine (Hololive)

There Fixed for yah, Subaru defeated Toya's numbers that day.

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>Sore enter
>View drop

What the f-

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>>13499248
Anon, that's the list of SILVERS

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>>13499273
Sora told everybody to go watch Risu.

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I'm high af, please ignore it lmao

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45k possible?
(Marine's one-block solo peaked at 39k)

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ENTER

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ENTER PEGO

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ENTER NUMBERS

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enter

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I napped and got an idea for a content series to a BFE EN vtuber(ASMR type). It will be a long running series with commissioned pics about the guy(Male vtuber) doing an adventure with the girl(The audience) in HoloAlt or whatever fantasy world. An episode consists of one scene for example talking on the beach, walking around town, hanging out in a busy bar etc. Non sexual stuff. Every 2 weeks, 1 livestream, 1 hour.

>What's so special about it? It's just RP with a zatsudan right?
You're right about that, but the real gimmick is having the audience decide the choices using the live poll and the story progresses with the majority choice (Audience participation) like a Visual Novel. 3 polls under 30 minutes, the last poll opens before ending the stream to decide what kind of episode comes next 2 weeks and the next scene revolves from that choice.

There you have it, for every two weeks, the vtuber engages in his own lore with the audience and the audience decide where the story progresses through a poll.

>BIG NUMBERS

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>Pekora enters 10 minutes before her stream
>Shills her next stream
>Refuses to elaborate
>Leaves

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pekochan is planning to snipe another day

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>>13499351
god i wish

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>>13499336
Look up Milgram (jp vocaloid writer/seiyuu project)
Not the same but similar. BFE ASMR is way too fucking niche.

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Too short peko...

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>>13499361

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ENTER THE LONG NECK

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>>13499361
Huh? What do you mean?

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This thread is just /hlgg/2.0 now

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>>13499397
no bulli anon

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sankisei no kizuna

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>>13499427
you're more than welcome to talk about Niji and their number/stats

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>>13499361
I'd rather she didn't. Pekora is beating Nijisanji 7 to 6. an 8 to 6 hole is too big to overcome since Nijisanji won't win today and tomorrow is the gen 3 concert.

>>13499427
Yeah, it's been feeling like a holo victory lap for months now. Also a lot of stream commentary and random topics.

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>>13499427
>why are they talking about the biggest possible winner of the day in the numbers thread?

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>>13499427
Wut? This thread talks about numbers and whoever is generating them at the moment.

Right now, on the Niji side, there are three streams over 10k
>Kanae Pokemon
>Sultan Minecraft (trying to revive the server)
>Lize Genshin

None of those are conversational topics

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>>13499427
this thread was full of kneel/king/emperor/sultanposters on around august too

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>>13499462
Apex falling off a bit and the lack of any debuts/3d's to pump numbers exposed Niji's structural weakness. Now we have to shitpost EN vs JP or Twitch vs YT to fill time. There's not really that much competition anymore

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>>13499492
Lize is really taking over as the main niji female huh

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>>13499427
seethe and cum nigger

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>>13499448
Is this the power of partially braided hair Pekora?

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>>13499492
>sultan
more like oil boy

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>>13499462
That's Peko's goal this month, win more gold than nijis all by herself lmfao

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watch pegora delay her stream for 10 minutes.

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>>13499526
She did that already last month no?

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>>13499461
>>13499477
>>13499498
>>13499492
No anons I don't mind talking about the numbers a stream generates but when it gets to reacting to stuff happening on stream that has no relation to numbers then this thread might as well be a general stream thread

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>>13499498
Those are the same people shitting on Nijisanji now.

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>>13499531
the queen is benevolent

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>>13499427
This anon just means that Holo wins are celebrated and Niji wins are scorned
>but kingposters
Yeah yeah newfags not here for Pekora vs Gura posting

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>>13499548
What's happening on stream affects the numbers of course we talk about it

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>>13499526
her goal should be beating gura's golds record but her fellow jps are too strong and keep stealing golds from her

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>>13499548
I get that feeling as well but it is better than the usual shit fling.

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>>13499541
Ohhh yeah i forgot lmao

>>13499513
Is Mito even streaming this month?

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>>13499541
I think both Pekora and Gura already done this last year.

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>>13499558
>Niji wins
But they'll have to win first?

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>>13499541
Wait she did lmao, isn't october a shit month for her too.

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>>13499506
NijiEN has been a threat recently.

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>>13499558
dont refer to yourself in third person

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>>13499584

>Is Mito even streaming this month?

Literally did today...

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how much was pekoras waiting room?

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>>13499641
12-13K

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>>13499619
No anon, see >>13499548

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>>13499641
13k something last I looked.

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>>13499650
so smaller than noels i think it was 15k

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20k with the pekorap

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https://youtu.be/tybJpxrYB8E
>Shion streaming pokemon again at 12am.
prediction?

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Noel directing people to Pekora's stream

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>>13499558
>Niji wins are scorned
Not all the time but they were getting scorned because of Nijifags themselves.
Yesterday when Maimoto got a Gold Contender number, a lot of nijifags started getting cocky and spouting shit left and right

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>Noel doing a small reminder that Peko is streaming now and to check her out

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Pekora having a 2 stage intro really helps her in situations like this where she needs to stall for numbers.

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>>13499379
>Look up Milgram (jp vocaloid writer/seiyuu project)
Yeah, kinda like this but using polls in YT to decide the choice of the girl character. The male vtuber would have already prepared scenes for every choice, I'd limit it to two choices. One bad, one good. Third choice is a special event. It'll be super fun for the audience to engage in stories like this and throw money at em. Fanarts, animations from fans comes freely after the episode.

I wonder why hadn't vtubers commit to this especially Holos and Nijis. It's like a VN and the limit is the vtuber's ideas in story telling. Kinda like TTRPG where Mori decides where the story progresses from the others.

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>>13499676
ILLEGAL

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uh oh, here comes the funnel train.

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>>13499686
> gen 3 is love gen 3 is life.
glorious unity

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>>13499653
Oh I get that, but that's because this thread is mostly Holowatchers. No one on /vt/ watches Lize aside from like 1 anon, and the male watchers quarantined themselves to a thread, so they won't be in here cheering for whatever the fuck is happening the same way Pekora fans are.

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Pekora already dying from stage anxiety...

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oh wtf wasn't expecting such a short totsu. Wonder if Pegor could get gold...

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>>13499617
They're current numbers are too weak to get compared with HoloEN.
But they're threats because Dumb Unityfags like Kiara and zombie are collabing with them.

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Queen Usada get 30k even before the poem

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>>13499723
4/5 gen 3 offcollab. probably wanted to celebrate a little bit and relax before the concert. it's good for us since Noel funneled her viewers to Pekora. let's see if Pekora can beat Noel.

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>>13499723
Kinda hard since Okayu, Subaru are streaming pokemon (they'll fight later) and also Botan.
Miko and Noel are also still ongoing

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She is purposely stalling because she knows that half of them only wants to see her reaction to the world tree being burnt.

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>>13499692
You don't understand the appeal of male asmr or pandering. You need to build up an audience first, then release that pandering stuff. If it's a literal who ikemen with no "backstory" (aka stream life) no one will be attached therefore no one will watch. Same goes for fanart.

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>>13499617
Threat to who?

Dont lie in numbers thread anon. Selen the savior of nijiEN is basically a midget in front of holo.

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>>13499775
You know too much

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35k

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Pekora can "possibly" defeat Noel desu.
>Okayu and Subaru's fight will still be later
>Marine burned Wolrd Tree Buff
>Already 35k, Noel (w/ 20k) will end soon

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>>13499824
Don't forget Miko's illegal funneling. She just ended rn.

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>>13499824
wtf miko ends stream for peko
now almost 40k

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>>13499836
>Didn't end for Noel
>Ended for Pekora
Is this the power of christmas rape?

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>1 million subs
>2k viewers
Gen 5 is literally Matsuri tier

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>40 get

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>so many coomer things
this is gonna sell like hotcakes

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>>13499775
>>13499836
Noel and Miko ended then Pekora is now starting to enter the server.
Damn i love her

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>>13499859
Wtf I just tuned in

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lol pekora, this is great. Audio issues!

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>>13499890
RIP Gold

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bullshit

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WTF HER BGM IS FUCKING LOUD

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45k before entering the game

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>>13499890
>"audio issues"
She is waiting for peak stall before she does the reveal

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this stalling is probably helping her peak, how does she get this lucky lmao

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>>13499864
That’s a cute shampoo bottle

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subaru 18k and okayu 11k at the back btw

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>>13499928
>lucky
this is planned.

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>>13499936
>>13499928
>>13499915
Too Bad i don't think she'll beat Noel's 56.9k

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AAAAHHH NOOO SHE REACTED AT 50k

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50k

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>>13499915
yes, that was my point.

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>50k get

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This wpnt reach 55k

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>20 mins in
>50k get

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>>13499958
I think the unpredictable nature of this mod will make that possible. Plus, people are gonna tune in to watch her suffer.

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Oh no no no bros what should we do? Should we pit gen 3 against gen 3?

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Pekora is just too strong, my knees were not ready for this!

Nip bros were right, every stream is just Pekora's waiting room

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>>13499936
already revealed, still climbing

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Assuming a ghast can respawn again that should bump numbers

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>>13499990
Anons are already doing it atm since Noel doesn't have any competitions

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>minecraft event next week
>Going to get mogged by pekomari one block mode
poor nijis

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>>13499990
Lmao, and if somehow only Pekora is winning then Next strategy will be Pekora(Nov) vs Pekora(Dec)

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>>13499990
Pit pekora Minecraft stream vs niji Minecraft stream (if there's any rn) if not well.. It's EN vs JP time

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Oh god it's still rising

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stalling at 51k

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>>13500033

Well....

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>>13500046
She have 28 more minutes, i hope a creeper or that fire monster spawn

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It's terrifying how many close call silvers Pekora has been getting recently. If she manages to increase her floor by atleast 5k, every birthday would be subjected to slippage at that point.

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>>13500061
>there's at least two faggots here still calling him Sultan

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>meanwhile, shuba 20k already
i want to breed that duck

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>>13499427
I get what you mean people were posting about the stream as if it's her general kek. You do know where you are, this is a general where some anons are too mentally disabled to right click translate a page.

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CCV decreased already, It's over Pekobros
Noel beats Numbersagi today

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looks like it peaked, 51k's still gonna be good for her median

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>>13499803
>Threat to who?
Themselves

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In other news. New tactic from Millie?
>>13496545

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>>13500061
The Sultan is trying something magnificent: to rekindle interest in the MC server.

Should I put a
>TRADE ALERT
for a Sultan-Matsuri trade.

What would nijis ask as additional compensation?

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Guras one block with 100% increase would still lose to pekora. QUEEN USADA I KNEEL

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>>13500149
i stopped reading at apex

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Kanae is actually getting better numbers playing pokemon than playing apex or valo.

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>>13500160
>trade Ibrahim to Hololive to fucking die
How bout no.

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>>13500119
Noel should win this, beating a birthday or anniversary is always an upset. But rabbit got closer then many probably thought, 45k range was the most spouted I think? Unless something happens like spawning a ghast I doubt she will get a new higher peak.

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>>13500175
Well duh! Anyone not getting better numbers doing the new nip fever than the old beaten one is dead in their feet.

Smart move for him to think on his feet and move faster

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>Pekora vs Marine followed by Pekora vs Gura
It's well established by this point that she's #1 so I don't know what's the point of these aside from riling up antis

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>>13500194
yeah I think some are there for the reaction.

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>>13500164
Pekora is actually good at minecraft. Marine and Gura aren't really known for the block autism.

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>>13500160
Nah, brown oil is a no no in holo environment, however, counter proposal
Lize - Matsuri + 11 Gold Medal

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>>13500160
>rekindle
No lol. He is playing with Chii-chan to cheer her up.
Something he wouldn't be able to do if they were both Holos.

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>>13500192
Come on! Holostars server would benefit from his presence and, who knows, maybe it would pull the whole branch up!
What about Matuli and Ollie?

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>>13499720
Lize gets great numbers but she isn't doing poorly so there is no reason to concern ourselves and she doesn't do well enough to contend for medals. She just fills out the list of 10k+ streams, usually in the lower half.

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>Noel forgot to shill their concert

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>>13500226
>Lize - Matsuri + 11 Gold Medal
That’s tempting. Can the Gold be paid in installments, 4 per month?

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What's the potential number of this week Niji 3D?

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>>13500250
I want lize lower half

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>>13500268
what 3D

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>>13500226
Nope. Another we don't need another mid tier holo.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/hhMTQlYGE74
This is going to get massive numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500268
20k would be generous, no one cares about Mahiro despite being Lulu debutmate

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500281
10k+ is not mid tier anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>duck 24k get

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500332
This battle every pokemon stream is working wonders for the duck huh. Good shit holo keep the numbers coming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500326
10k is smack middle of holojp anonchama

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500309
Compared to Hajime? daily number

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500355
Hajime has the buff of being the first group of Nijisanji
Mahiro has uhhhh

[Anonymous No.]

>Time to mine some matome banter
No slippage today, don’t know if there will be much

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500350

It is working for Okayu too. She is getting 10k+ very frequently (tho this month in general has been really good for her)

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500326
There are 17 holos with 10k+ median.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500090
>that reaction
Isn't shuba like... the girliest Holo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500326
Any JP below 10k is shitter tier since they don't even have the view culling to fall back on as a reason

[Anonymous No.]

Pokemon numbers are doing alot of vtubers well, I wonder if playing it too fast like Shion did is a mistake though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500384
Do you have the one from yesterday?

[Anonymous No.]

>there are nijiJPs that can't overcome Risu minecraft in a stacked timeslot

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTD79ouWVu8
yes she is

[Anonymous No.]

If you're below 10k on this list you're not mid-tier, no ifs and buts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500437
There are Niji JPs who get mogged by NijiID.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500403
yea but she doesnt want you to know it

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500424
Not a lot. The most recurring joke was “blew their load too early”, this one was the only one amusing enough to fetch.

I didn’t walk back enough to when Maimoto victory seemed secure tho, maybe there was some good banter from the Niji side

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500437
As long as you’re above the Gwelu line you won’t be sent to the glue factory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500529
Link?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500414
shion beating it fast potentially means she can start doing competitive-ish pvp battles soon. Idk if she would though

[Anonymous No.]

>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - NOVEMBER 2021

1) Marine (Hololive) - 34.7k - Karaoke
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 42.5 - Minecraft (Sport fest prep)
3) Chronoir (Nijisanji) - 48.9k - Announcement
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 36.4k - Rhythm Heaven
5) Luis Cammy (Nijisanji) - 39.4k - 3D Debut
6) Miko (Hololive) - 81.5k - Minecraft Sports Fest
7) Miko (Hololive) - 69.7k - Sport Fest Totsu
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 57.6k - Evil God korone
9) Subaru (Hololive) - 44k - Evil God Korone
10) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 56k - Kuzuha Concert Free Part
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 55k - First FFXIV stream
12) Fumi (Nijisanji) - 38k - 3D Debut
13) Rushia (Hololive) - 81k - Outfit reveal
14) Marine (Hololive) - 81.8k - Subaru's High profile case
15) Lamy (Hololive) - 83.3k - Birthday 3D
16) Pekora (Hololive) - 31.8k - Ape Escape 3
17) Marine (Hololive) - 34k - Bus Simulator
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 82.5k - Minecraft Mod with Marine
19) Towa (Hololive) - 47.5k - Mario Party
20) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 95k - Splatoon Tpurney day 1
21) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 88.2k - Splatoon Tourney day 2
22) Subaru (Hololive) - 31.5k - Pokemon Challenge (vs Okayu)
23) Pekora (Hololive) - 57.7k - Karaoke Relay
24) Noel (Hololive) - 56.9k - Birthday Totsu

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500507
Anon, JP median is quite close to 10k. That marks the exact middle, meaning whoever is adjacent to it (on both sides) is by definition midtier

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500573
Wrong
Top tier - 20k+
High tier - 15k - 20k
Mid tier - 10k - 15k
Low tier - below 10k

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500554

Shion wants to do as much post-game content she can. Last stream she started filling her pokedex. Probably it won't reach way more than 20k anymore but she got 17k peak last stream so still pretty good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500597
By this standard all but 4 Nijis are low tier. Doesn't seem like a very useful tier system if Mito and a 2view are in the same tier

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500510
I require proof for this claim

[Anonymous No.]

>Marine entered the game
No fucking way, this would be so stupid if this cause the upset.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500566
Damn, it was too early. Marine just entered.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500544
One of the matome comment sections, I didn't save the link

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500618
that tierlist seems accurate for holos, nobody said its the same for other chuubas

[Anonymous No.]

And senchou has left the game, no upsets today

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500623
I mean, Hana still gets around 300 viewers…

[Anonymous No.]

Gura let kronii join you in one block

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500623
>I require proof for this claim
FACT CHECK: true, and it's not even just Hana Machia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500623
Bonnivier solo stream - 320+
https://playboard.co/en/video/dc9NtmO5qDE
Naruse solo stream - 250+
https://playboard.co/en/video/a30B6QoNQcU

[Anonymous No.]

Wew if that wasn't a close jinx, idk what would be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500566
Truly very pleasing to the eyes

>>13500597
Top Tier: 20k+
High Tier: 13k-19k
Mid Tier: 8k - 12k
Low Tier: 1k - 7k
This is Holo standards, because 7k is already high tier in Nijis

[Anonymous No.]

What's up with okayu and pokemon??? 15k!? Holly shit!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500662
Weak, Risu still gets good numbers despite overlapping with big events

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500663
She did plan on having other EN members to join

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500662
>>13500680
>>13500678
Oh yeah I forgot how low the niji bottom tier goes
So this is why people say the NijiID branch is in no danger of closing

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500653
This is still moronic. Noel is low tier by this standard. Kroni and Risu are in the same tier apparently. Iofi and Lamy are both "low" tier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500690
subaru's at 25k too and thats behind pekora with 49k

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500707
One could say that as long as the branch keeps their head above the Naruse Naru line for average ccv, they'll be fine. Gwelu line is for single stream current live views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500690
>Pokemon
>JP
Need I say more?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500715
>lists a bunch of low tier chuubas
>says they're not low tier
Kronii doesn't count anyway, none of the ENs count in that tier list because of the CCV cull. Any 9k EN is more likely to be 12k in actuality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500653
Yeah, I'm with the other guy, that tierlist puts more than half the holos as low tier and that's retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500689
It's funny that without Peko, Holo top tier is still 20K+. While Niji without Kuzuha, top tier will be about 15K+

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive JP almost at 100k tonight.
Pekora, Subaru and Okayu are hogging all the viewers. Poor Watame and Botan gets leftovers

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500757
If you have the holo buff and still can't hit 10k you're low-tier deadweight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500773
Watame is like in her 999th goddamn playthrough in that game just finish it already you sheep.

[Anonymous No.]

>people falling for the ENschizo falseflags
Whenever you see a post that is too retarded to be believable, there is a great chance it's that bloke

[Anonymous No.]

Does twitch have their own numberfag tierlist? Only average/median to compare to Holo? I'm sure the list is long, but I wanna know where Pekora/Marine/Gura stands in all of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500690
okayu is not weak when she plays actual interesting games

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500773
Gen 4 and gen 5 are the weakest gens in the company, it's not surprising that when given the choice people would rather watch another holo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500802
Combined average for November (to 19 or 20, I don't recall)

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500799
Problem is sometimes these retards dox themselves and it becomes apparent they really are retards. Many such cases. But this is all funposting anyway since Niji can't put up a fight what else do we have to do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500781

So the likes of Lamy, Fubuki, Okayu, Noel, Flare are deadweight? how I still get impressed with such retard takes here

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500764
Pekora, Miko, Subaru, Marine, Gura will all have 20k+ median this month.
Rushia also has a chance. Korone lacks 1 stream to be included.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500833
No no, I meant comparing to twitch streamers, not just vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500740
What's the deal with him anyways? I thought Hajime is the lowest viewed liver in NijiJP, how is there someone below him?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500833
hes asking the real top tier twitch, not this youtube-twitch ccv shittery

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500851
Multiple $1M/year SC earners. Deadweight. Heh

[Anonymous No.]

Twitch ccv last 30 days(personal channel):
https://twitchtracker.com/channels/viewership/personality

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500854
check korone, aqua and suisei too. If not there at 20k, they must be almost there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500851
>streamers that don't contribute good CCV are valuable to a streaming company
super retarded take

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500833
>S tier
Gura, Kronii, Nyanners, Ina, Irys, Baelz, Mumei
>A Tier
Ironmouse, Vei, Mori, Ame, Fauna
>B tier
Everyone else

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500898
they want views, not blackboxed ccv.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500891
>Jun no. 26
Junbros. . .

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500689
>Low Tier: 1k - 7k
Most vtubers are in low tier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500937
Twitch is not his main platform though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500891
iirc Pekora this month had 30k+ average, so that puts her on the top 20? Holy shit. There's not a single female streamer there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500854
Don't put Queen Usada with those other peasants, she is on whole different level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500895
Korone only had 4 streams
Aqua only had 3 streams
I think Suisei might also have 20k+ yeah.

We'll see when graph/chartanon posts his list and there might be a chance they suddenly stream a super debuff game lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500959
Maybe that anon is talking about CCV and your focusing on specific streams that you remember

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500935
It's already been said many times that twitch views isn't worth shit and I'd prefer Sponsors would just move to Youtube to do ads. At least it's reliable, viewers actually watch the stream and views count as one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500919
You can't possibly put streamers with 2x CCV in the same tier.

You need a
>Gura tier
there

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500870
For the last 30 days, average ccv cutoffs for Top 10 is ~75K, Top 50 is ~25k, Top 100 is ~15K, Top 250 is ~7500.

Just for fun, Twitchpayouts lists the last 2 years revenue at $2.1M for #50, and $1.1M for $100 and $668K for #251 who is none other than... Ironmouse.

Data form Twitchtracker and Twitchpayouts if you are interested

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500964
If we based it on average ye, but the watchtime is a different story though since some of those in top 10 maintain their average for hours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500964
doesn't that chart use actual average viewers not average of peaks though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500959
Like i said, "By Hololive Standards"

>>13500989
I see a lot of 30k+ from Miko and Marine in Holostats so they might be close to her median.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500868
Shit former manager nuked his early growth with an ugly model. The games he plays used to be filters (fifa, forza). He also used to be incredibly shy, in fact he only joined the Niji channel for collab pings this year. Basically, a debuff case-study.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501011
Sponsors tend to respect YouTube far more than Twitch apparently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501016
>>13501032
Oh yeah I forgot. How to compare Pekora now?

[Anonymous No.]

Selen's median has dropped. Her median was hovering around 3k for a while but it's dropped 15%~
How do we stop the bleeding? Hypothetically if I was amanager and some out of touch slant eyes were breathing down my neck over nickels and dimes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501059
Using watched hrs/streamed hrs

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501059
I'll post the average for Holos so far after midnight JST

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501065
Call out Niji JP for not supporting Niji EN and create enough drama to break off and take Niji EN independent, call on help from big name Twitch content creators such as OTV and make it big there instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501065
Leech viewers from Ollie

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501065
stop branding herself as an apex pro if she fucking sucks at it, turn it into a comedy content apex instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501038
Hololive's standards aren't that high.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501014
>Streaming is dominated by males on Twitch Ranking
>One lone bunny girl monopolizes the vtuber & streaming scene on YT

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501038
Miko reaches 20k maximum unless she's doing some meme stream/event

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501059
From @Holo_Data
Pekora 11/1~20 avg. 28496

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501054
And people complain about Sana debuffing herself

[Anonymous No.]

Vtuber standard

>25k+
S+ tier
>20-25k
S tier
>15-20k
A+ tier
>10-15k
A tier
>8-10k
B+ tier
>5-8k
B tier
>3-5k
C+ tier
>1-3k
C tier
>0.5-1k
D+ tier
>0.1-0.5k
D tier
>0.1k or lower
2view

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501174
Isn't that kinda low? She only got three streams below 30k

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501038
Not when Pekora only has 3 streams this month that below 30k (None of them are below 20k). Not to mention, both Marine and Miko has some streams that goes below 20k.

Pekora is league ahead of everyone else this month, so putting her with the others is undermining her number.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501175
At least Sana can stream her astrology interests, Naruse collects stag beetle and it grossed too many people out so he had to make a seperate twitter for that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501219
I don't like pluses, this is better

>25k+
SSS tier
>20-25k
SS tier
>15-20k
S tier
>10-15k
A tier
>5-10k
B tier
>3-5k
C tier
>1-3k
D tier
>0.5-1K
E tier
>0.1-0.5k
F tier
>0.1k or lower
2view

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501283
>three streams below 30k
That's peak, she didn't keep 30K from the start of the stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501283
This is her average, not the medians of peak

[Anonymous No.]

Big God Mion 10k

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501219
>Kuzuha
>A+
kek, if he has strict parents, that's like a C+ and a ticket to the belt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501283
Well the after talk usually drag the average down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501283
Holo_data uses the average for a better estimate of watch time, it means that even when you include stuff like SC reading you can average her views like that. It's actually crazy high.

[Anonymous No.]

Today was a very top heavy performance(swept the top 6) from hololive but Nijisanji didn't get embarrassed. They got 3 in the top 10 and it was only a score of 10-7 for streams over 10k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501314
>>13501332
>>13501351
Ohh okay my mistake lmao i thought its average of peaks

>>13501360
Oh this is like how steamhatchet operates?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501403
Streamhatchet is pretty inaccurate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501344
nice

[Anonymous No.]

Haachama, your algo reps...

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501056
This isn’t close really. In 2020 Twitch had 140M unique users. YouTube had 2B. YouTube has much better analytic tools for advertisers. Twitch campaigns are very time sensitive YouTube videos generate views and impressions for a much longer period. 100k ccv is impressive don’t get me wrong. But so are 1M views. YouTube streamers can double dip getting $/ccv/hr + $/1000 views both from the sponsor and monetization.

All the Susan fuckery is largely aimed at improving the experience for advertisers, not streamers. Advertisers want “real” numbers so culling spam views and ccv makes Yt more attractive. Twitch prioritizes their streamers. They are different models which is why comparing them is so damn hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501399
>Kanae doing an illegal double stream today after his pokemon
He's doing a valorant stream and it's at 10k already. He's keeping the niji dream alive without Kuzuha on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501479
>without Kuzuha on.
Anon..

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501507
Oh yeah, his valorant stream. Numbers were too low I forgot about it. This is a King?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501473
I’d imagine the “real viewer” thing Susan implemented for YouTube CCV is a godsend for advertisers/sponsors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501426
Yeah i saw people complaining that Pekora and Kuzuha's numbers were heavily nerfed.
And Amourant's rebroadcast streams are getting included.

Talk about bias

[Anonymous No.]

>>13500566
Nijisanji - 6
Hololive - 6
Gen 3 - 12

I wonder how many golds Hololive would win without them. Would they even beat Nijisanji? Maybe we should compare Hololive proper to Nijisanji and leave gen 3 to themselves. They're gonna win tomorrow too.

[Anonymous No.]

Cali please, the containment ain't gonna hold much longer
youtube.com/watch?v=F-lINrfb-ng
youtube.com/watch?v=F-lINrfb-ng
youtube.com/watch?v=F-lINrfb-ng

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501344
Holly mama! Playing shit game and head to head with pegor and duck!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501473
Yeah, the double dipping makes it super attractive for streamers especially with Premium. I'd wager that Holos doing long SC readings were also making money off from it. Viewers are also incentivized to check the full VOD from a clip if they're interested making them earn money from old VODs passively. Additionally, Hololive didn't get greedy to open streamlabs and gladly give the 30% to Susan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501565
Sponsors want as many eyes as possible on the stream even if those eyes use adblock. Advertisers love it though.

>>13501473
Hololivers must be rich. Makes me wonder why JP6 members chose Sony.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501565
Well sure they are paying 20-30% less for the exact same product and exposure. The only ones who lose are the streamers and what they going to do? Form a union? Use Vimeo? Twitch is the only real competition but changing platforms is a massive hit in the short/medium term

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501586
is this a new cope?
'Gen 3 are too successful to be considered a part of Hololive'?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501613
4chan didnt invent that joke, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501652
Yes. How is it a cope? People complain that 2-3 people carry Nijisanji but I can't point out gen 3 carries Hololive? Gen 3 doesn't benefit from Hololive and gen 3 fans aren't hololive fans. They're their own entity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501650
>>13501565
ads pay by total viewers, which are not affected by many of the filters that affect ccv culling. The only thing they remove/revise is alleged bots. Maybe adblocks too. But shit like tabbing out is a normal paid view still.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501687
>gen 3 carries Hololive
No they don't
Gen 3 is just the most poweful one

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501687
>Gen 3 doesn't benefit from Hololive and gen 3 fans aren't hololive fans.
And that's cope.

[Anonymous No.]

Any chance that nijisanji can make it somewhat competitive next month? I remember them having pretty good numbers last December.

[Anonymous No.]

>13501687
>lets pit holo against holo

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501687
whitout gen 3 miko gura and suba take the top 3

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501714
Numbers are on my side >>13500507

>>13501717
They don't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501650
Twitch keeps getting shittier by the month. Their biased mods don’t help the situation either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501720
>Holofest
>JP 6
>Myth Outfit
Yeah no

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501699
Views get culled too. It’s most obvious on the fastest growing videos but something is being adjusted

[Anonymous No.]

APEX CR cup 12/25

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501757
>China getting shittier
>Twitch getting shittier
>Youtube & Hololive actually winning
Yagoo black magic aoe. Where are they gonna conquer next? India? Africa? Even if those places aren't SC rich, they'll contribute in CCV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501771
views may get culled, but not by all the many/same filters as ccv itself
pic related is gura 2 minutes after starting her stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501778
We can measure apex's decline. I wonder if we will get any golds out of it. Kuzuha should get a couple I'm sure. But this is old news.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501764
>>Myth Outfit
lel, never ever
>>JP 6
lql, Cover just cancelled 2 hololiver spots
>>Holofest
lwl, not happening any time soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501778
Who the fuck is going to watch that. Don't vtubers have christmas events? And normalfag Apexmen have girlfriends to date?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501822
>>Myth Outfit
>lel, never ever
Based threadreader
Mori confirmed that it will be released next month

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501875
dont reply to retarded bait

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501875
I don't fucking watch HoloEN much less Mori.
It isn't happening until it happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>13501902
Holy retard, what's the point of this then
>>13501720

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501778
Kuzuha might be able to compete with Pekora with the Apex and tournament buff. Assuming of course that the game hasn't fallen off completely.
>>13501764
Myth costumes is going to be revealed via relay and, assuming that JP6 also does a debut marathon then that's only 2 days of guaranteed gold since I'm pretty sure that holofes ain't happening this year.
>>13501687
Yeh, no. I'm pretty sure that even without Gen 3, Hololive still stomps in gold medals. Maybe not a full mogging but still pretty decisive. That's the benefit of having multiple chuubas that average 20k and dozens who are also capable of the same feat given the right conditions.

[Anonymous No.]

LMAO a retarded ESL bait

[Anonymous No.]

おぺれえしょん

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501644
Here’s a fun bit of mental math that I will admit is total speculation. In 2020 YouTube streams had about 10B watched hours. They also had 20M subscribers at $12 a month or ~$150 a year. So total premium revenue was roughly 300M. Assume YouTube takes 30% and the rest is divided according to watch time (this is an overestimate but it’s fun). That means for every hour watched there’s around 20 cents revenue for the streamers. So a 10k average ccv 2 hour stream accounts for 20k watched hours or $4,000. A 5k average ccv 7 hour stream like Kiara’s last Pokémon steam would be 35k hours for $5,000 before ads and SC.

Now there’s a lot wrong with this but remember average VOD watch time is puny. Like single digit minutes. Even at 10 minutes 100k views is only 17k more hours watched. So it takes a lot of views to come close to the watch time of Kiara tangenting for literal hours. This also lines up with Spiffing Brits video. So use whatever fudge factor you would like. Even if it’s a tenth of what I’ve estimated even the likes of Kiara makes $200-500 extra per video. Pekora makes… a lot. Like an absolute shitload. And it’s totally invisible to the viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1350196
who says is gona be a relay for the outfits?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501893
>>13501954
>>13501977
>seething this hard
B-but when you talk about Nijisanji...

[Anonymous No.]

oh it is the holomyths relay schizo again

[Anonymous No.]

>>13498817
So this is numberfag math

[Anonymous No.]

>>13502013
Oops make a mistake. Divide everything by 10. Still a lot of money. We need some leaks

[Anonymous No.]

anyone else feeling the burnout from hololive? it's starting to get boring to be honest. i'm planning on taking a break for a week and see what happens

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501965
In terms of Gold medals and medians, non-Gen 3 holo would still win, yeah. That said, I wonder if Niji can compete with non-gen 3 holo in total viewers. It's the only metric that their stupid amount of livers can contribute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13502011
He can't even be called silverboy anymore... Forget a podium spot, is he even gonna make it to the top 10?

[Anonymous No.]

>13502075
go back

[Anonymous No.]

>13502037
Where's the seethe in any of those reply? Kek
>Suddenly mention nijikeks
WTF so this is how schizos think?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13502075
yeah the livers are getting pretty boring desu, the newest en wave keep taking breaks

[Anonymous No.]

>>13502113
If you couldn't tell I was making a joke at the expense of Nijifags who kept getting butthurt at no equal reactions in this general then idk what to say, should I add /s?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13502011
Man, that was a fast recline. He really is nothing without Apex

[Anonymous No.]

>>13501586
>Maybe we should compare Hololive proper to Nijisanji and leave gen 3 to themselves.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


>PSSSSSSST, NIJICOEP LIST ANON
YOU'VE GOT A GREAT ONE HERE!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13502167
13k is still better than lize

[Anonymous No.]

I love how people talking about Gen 3 as if they are walking calamities.

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>>13501447
>Haachama, your algo reps...
Haachama is right. Her first priority right now is the establish the channel as a shorts channel and get her subs count up.

She can care about VOD views later, right now people need to know it exists and subscribe for the algo boost

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Guess false flaggers are just trying to bait without even trying now. Can't blame them since Nijisanji is lottery team status.

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>13502075
>13502117
You don't even need to come back desu

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>>13502195
If the comparison becomes "he's beating Lize Helesta" Kuzuha is already dead

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>>13502197
Gen 3 isn't called the Golden Generation for nothing. If the title of 4 heavenly kings was still a thing, Gen 3 alone would have a legitimate claim to at least 2 of them.

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>>13502197
The Elite 5...

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>seanigs in full swing
Alright, time to bail. See you on the other side of the numbers threads, numerales.

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>>13502301
Speaking of heavenly kings, do any anon here have numbers of their streams during their peak era. It would be interesting to see how different things are from back then.

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>>13502075
why the fuck are we getting /hlg/ ritualposts in the fucking numbers thread

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>>13502347
>do any anon here have numbers of their streams during their peak era
kek.

The heavenly kings were "let's play" vtubers, doing mostly clips of their plays.
The reason Mito and others were so disruptive was because they were a "cheap live2d live streamer that interacted with chat" and changed the meta for vtubers

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>>13502347
Nah
Heavenly kings vtuber era is mainly focused on short clips/highlights akin to normal youtubers compared to the present vtuber era which are stream focused.

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>>13502392
This thread gets linked to /hlg/

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>>13502322
Gen 5 has the same hair colour as 4 out of 6 Generation of Miracles. Coincidence? I think not.

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>>13502217
Blame Niji for using all the buffs in August
> New wave debut
> Koshien Tournament
> e-celeb collab

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for someone who has huge eop clips the duck's comments sure seems like 98% nips

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>>13502462
Didn't do shit to his numbers permanently kek. Touristsanji

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>>13502462
>webm related
Nijisanji August

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>>13502434
>Hitomi Chris as the phantom 6th Holo. The shadow to FBKs light.

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>>13502429
Sigh, they need to Go Back. Unironically. Like why the fuck does numbers of all things get linked?

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>>13502482
Most of the EOPs that stick around these days at least try to fit in, you should see when Rushia called out to her foreign viewers. The chat suddenly becomes full of english

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>>13502462

> New wave debut
Holo have that too
> Koshien Tournament
The only fair one, consider Japan
> e-celeb collab
Holo have that as well

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>>13502462
I mean, July/August is a perfect time to do big events. Taking advantage of the summer break

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>>13502494
She unirnocally needs to stream more if she wants to stay relevant in the current meta.
Still she's doing pretty well all things considered.

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>>13502540

> e-celeb collab
Holo have that as well

With who?

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https://youtu.be/xvkB9V7CUrk
Another fanmade 3D animation to add to the pile.

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>>13502494
Is that Ayame roommate account?

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>>13502534
still seems significantly fewer than other holos like miko, fubuki, suisei, and pekora where they get like 1 english comment every now and then. subaru's is literally all nips

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>>13502698
That's one of the four heavenly kings, babuchama.

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>>13502767
Wrong timezone. Most of Subaru's EOPs are around for her afternoon Zatsus since she includes helpful English notes.

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>>13502622
TT

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Kuzuha :1.12M
Watame :1.10M
Kanata :1.08M
Nimu :1.07M
PARRA :1.06M
Imagine the biggest Niji surpassed by third world indie before 2022

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>>13502956
Wait didn't Kuzuha just reach a million like a couple months ago?

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>Pekora ending stream for Shion

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>>13502956
Kuzuha is starting to creep into “dead subs” meme territory…

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>>13503134
No. She has concert tomorrow ofcourse she would end her stream.

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>>13502322

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>>13502944
KEK

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>>13503169
heh

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>>13503169
Male Furea

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I don't get why can't Pekora transform all those amazing views into more subs. She stalled a lot on her channel growth since last year. Last December I expected she would reach 2 Million by this time, but things have proceed pretty slow for almost everybody except for Gura. Why does this happen?

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>>13503169
Flare El gringo

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Holostats added stream times for every day since january 21 2021. Why this date?

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>>13503314
Virality and songs that attracts tourists are better for sub growth. Pekora for some reason always have a weird bad luck at getting herself viral compared to other holos and she isn't the best singer in the bunch too.

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>>13503314
A dedicated fanbase and the japs love of live engagement with streams.

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kek, JP numberfags are getting a "come to Jesus" moment with regards to Nijisanji recent numbers

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>>13503324
Wut? What do you mean? The JSON they return?

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>>13503491
kek it ain't an illusion. Just cold hard facts and Yagoo's Voodoo lessons paying off.

>bad for the whole industry if the livers struggle to grow
Bad for niji, not bad for Holo

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>>13503491
BTW, anyone with better than N999 is free to correct me and tell me I'll never be japanese

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>>13503314
I sadly think that she has reach the max pace she can grow as a pure streamer. To get more growth in subs she would need to dip into shorts and make more covers/originals, but then again she isn't the best singer so it might not work that well with the music direction. So shorts or other type of vod media on top of doing what she does now.

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>>13503324
>>13503513
they've basically copied a feature from twitchtracker.

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>>13503616
And the 21th of January start must be a bug.

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>>13503541
Schizotime!
We are currently in the consolidation phase after a period of significant growth. The market has spoken, and it appears cute girls doing Idol things is what the market wants! As such, Hololive will slowly cement itself as the number one chubba corp both domestically and internationally, while Nijisanji will be forced into a position of stagnation/recline. Any further growth in the industry will come at the cost of leeching viewers from existing corps or slowly sapping them from existing entertainment media since there is no longer the large boom of people stuck in their homes looking for new entertainment. This means that unless Nijisanji is able to mount an offensive against Hololive or the smaller corps, they'll continue to decline from now on outside of their yearly events.

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>HEY ANONS THAT DID YOUR REPS
Help me with this one: what does "スウジー" means? It's thrown around on matome but I can't for the life of it figure it out

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I don't understand what process niji goes through to get game permissions. NijiEN already got Castle crashers permission and are doing a 4 player collab tomorrow.

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>>13503314
Subs just mean how many people have heard of you, whether those people will watch stream or not is a different matter
Pekora doesn’t have many memes surrounding her, not many hit song/clips, also doesn’t spam collabs so she have even less clippable moments compare to other Holo who collab with just about anybody. Not to mention being confined in Japan
That’s all I can think of. But that is not necessarily a bad thing, she can build a bigger core fanbase out of her subs and those people will absolutely watch her no matter what. I legit think Pekora depise collab and believe that a Holo should be able to attract view by herself, that’s why she avoid doing it, it just sound very her

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>>13503674
numbers

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>>13499427
Far from that, this is more like a matome derivative with a focus on numbers. So I guess just a 5ch nijian/holoan derivative.

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>>13503674
数字厨、スウジー。 特に、ホロライブやにじさんじなどの VTuber のファンがよく使う。 その場合は、同時接続者数(同時視聴者数)や、登録者数、再生数などの数字ばかりを気にして、数字だけで誰がすごいだとか誰がダメだとか言ってる人を指す

deepl:
Numbers Kitchen, Swoosie. It is often used by fans of VTubers, especially those of Hololive and Niji-sanji. In that case, it refers to people who only care about numbers such as the number of simultaneous connections (simultaneous viewers), the number of registered users, and the number of views, and say who's great and who's not based on numbers alone.
fucking kek

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>>13503691
kek, that makes sense, thanks! It's 数字, right?

Fuck, I did my kanji reps but I can't figure out their kana

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>>13503674
It's nip for numberfag, or numbernigger depending on the context in which it's used

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>>13503674
Literally numberfag, but used exclusively for streamers, not fans/posters.

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>>13503690
I think she just hates collab that gives shit content or collab that is too restricting to her schedules. There's a reason she likes doing collab with Botan and Towa who both can instantly adjust their schedules at the drop of her command. I think even marine talked about how sudden she is at asking for collabs.

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>>13503690
Pekora is one of the most clipped holo what are you talking about?

Also she likes solo streams since she enjoy interacting with chat.

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>>13503580
Streaming is honestly the only talent she have. Can’t sing, can’t sing, no other notable talents
Plus she already so busy streaming all sort of stuffs everyday, telling her to make short clips on top of that is a bit…unfair. And I doubt she would be able to catch up with Gura that way anyway so it just not worth it
Right now she seem comfortable with where she is and I would prefer it that way

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>>13503789
More like, viral clips. Pekora do have clips but you can see that there are less people watching them compare to other Holo clips
Also while I’m at it, I recently find this channel dedicated to making Pekora clip, pretty good stuffs. Nousagi TL, the channel also really know what I want too

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Numberfagってなに?
https://eigo-net-slang-jiten.blogspot.com/2021/04/numberfag.html#:~:text=%E6%95%B0%E5%AD%97%E5%8E%A8%E3%80%81%E3%82%B9%E3%82%A6%E3%82%B8%E3%83%BC%E3%80%82,%E8%A8%80%E3%81%A3%E3%81%A6%E3%82%8B%E4%BA%BA%E3%82%92%E6%8C%87%E3%81%99%E3%80%82

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>>13503690
I think her avoiding collabs is something Marine touched upon in a stream some time ago, Pekora doesn't want to collab just for collabing sake, since she thinks that it wont be an enjoyable stream for her fans. Right or wrong she is having great success being picky of when to collab.

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>>13503671
I'll bite, schizochama.

All Niji has to do is actually manage their talents and try to develop an honest-to-god overarching story. Make Niji's less like streamers with anime avatars and more like anime characters that happen to stream. That's how Holo's mostly do it.

Find games that can be played more casually to get people invested in the interactions between chat, the chuuba and their companions. If you notice something getting clipped, it may be your chance to lean into it and build a story from it.

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>>13503580
To be fair, I think sub growth is not the best goal she should aim for at the moment. Her best goal should be to aim for an absolute 30k floor in her ccv by focusing on her fanbase.
Seriously, a 30k floor pekora would make any birthday, concert, 3d or outfit reveal slippable.

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>>13503846
kek, is that their "urban dictionary"?


Also anons, HELP! I can figure out based on context what "串" means but WHAT THE FUCK DOES IT REALLY MEAN?
Give me the meaning and the etymology plz

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>>13503736
Yeah it's 数字.
I learned kana easily but kinda gave up kanji, especially after I started watching Hololive and saw how thay can't fucking read kanji themselves. I just use dictionary to see reading of them and meaning if it's unknown word.
Apparently it's used as numberfag, hard to translate slang words without context.

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>>13503854
A lot of the time people just spam “number hahaha” whenever she collabed with someone which upset me. She don’t usually collab so if someone can get her out her room, which mean she like that person enough to accept their request. Not all collab have to be about number

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>>13503925
>but kinda gave up kanji
Here is a million dollars protip

>Use wanikani for your kanji reps
It's worthy the 10 bucks or so you pay for month
https://www.wanikani.com/

It doubles as kanji reps and vocabulary reps. You won't learn any grammar from it but you will at very least be able to read teh kanji and even kanji you still don't know you'll be able to get the grasp of what it must mean based on the radicals

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>>13503796
She did talk about making shorts or videos before. This was back during spring before Coco announced her graduation though I think. I also agree that with her current schedule with idol reps + streaming she doesn't have the time for it. Her singing doesn't have to be top notch though, it only needs to be good enough for her to attract outsiders to the channel. She has big number covers on her channel and that helps feed the algo. I'm not suggesting she go the watame route and spam covers.
It's more of a what can she do to keep or up the pace in sub counts.

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>>13503922
>I can figure out based on context what "串" means but WHAT THE FUCK DOES IT REALLY MEAN?
>"串"
It means faggot. As in, ur a faget.

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>>13503916
That kind of what she doing right now, instead of gaining more sub, she make the best out of the subs she have
Her core fanbase is what make “Pekora aura” a thing lol. She can show up anywhere and that stream will gain at least 10k more people even without any announcement

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>>13500566
>not a single 20k from niji today, truly reclining
No wonder there was some preemptive coping on the previous thread using hachet's q3 watched hours

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>>13503996
Her Discommunication Alien cover is still a fucking myth to me. I have no way to explain how it got favored by the algorithm that much. And ONLY that cover got favored

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>>13503916
I agree that it shouldn't be her focus. But I also think she would get affected if some other JP goes past her in subs. I think Marine would be the most likely candidate to do it, with her shorts getting traction and being more of an all rounder.

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>>13503491
>Nijisanji is not reclining
Kuzuha could get 100k CCV median and it wouldn't change the fact that Nijisanji is reclining. I don't think one streamer in a pool of 100~ has that much pull. Are there really people out there who think Kuzuha's health = Nijisanji health? That is very silly.

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So people can't accuse me of being biased against Nijisanij or for Hololive, some Holo banter
>Someone on Hololive didn't even get 3k for her return
>I won't be naming any names

kek, Festival.... :-(