/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434ranking

Honestly, I took too much time thinking what would be the best headliner for the number's thread and came out nothing. Either,

>Bora graduation & NijiKR's future edition

or

>Blue vtubers dominated the day edition

Not bad for a 40 minutes karaoke that overlaps with Miko and Marine.

>>13065124
It's been a while since the last one, so it gets a rarity buff. Still a very strong showing.

>>13065123
Losing their top 2 talents in the same year must hurt quite a bit.

Why is it that Japanese Holo fans seem to care more about HoloID than Japanese Niji fans seem to care for NijiID?

>>13064572
KNEEL TO OMEGA-ALPHA!
>she cute too!
And clearly four parallel universes ahead of you all doubters!
Best part is that just the other day some anon was asking
>Kadokawa? Are they even big?

>>13065252
Anon a few weeks ago we had someone asked whether Nissin is big or not.

Pekkers once again beat her opponent (Suisei this time), who was streaming her main strenght is stream, for silver with only using her secondary plan this time.

On another note, Blue Women took all the podium this time.

>>13065273
TO be fair, people also tried to compared Nissin with Taco-fucking-bell

Is live-ranking working for anyone? I get 504 Gateway Time-out error.

>>13065252
Mori for all her faults seems like a company woman is more than happy to shill whatever is suggested to her. She's shilled shitty mobile games and Scarlet Nexus, which it was obvious she had absolutely no interest in. Shooting the shit for an hour or two with people she already knows to build stronger corporate connections with Kadokawa is nothing. All that seething. Based on it's growth it's going to be one of Tt's most popular episodes, her fist appearance is already their #1 video. Just another data point in Cover's growing pitch to sponsors.

>>13065252
>Kadokawa? Are they even big?
Gross profit of $694.82 million
Source - Nikkei Asia.

>>13065273
>asked whether Nissin is big or not.
kek, I saw that. Nissin (and their locks brands) is fucking synonymous with instant ramen, cup ramen and the likes in most of the civilized world.

>>13065252
So, which tier is kadokawa in?

#1: Sony, Nintendo
#1.5: Taco bell
#2: SE, Capcom, Nissin
#3: Konami, Sega
#4: Don quijote etc

>>13065124
Hey, I got higher. On a related note, I noticed that after 7 minutes the frame had 39k VOD views which for once sounds like something that would actually match the live views as there could be some coming and going.

>>13065428
Tencent

>>13065191
something something unity

>>13065252
https://www.kadokawa.co.jp/product/322003000622/

>>13065428
Elden Ring rights tier.

>>13065347
Lol, it's always up to HoloJP to get big sponsors. HoloEN will never get this chance, at all.

>>13065428
>>13065454
Let's start a sponsorship tier

>SS: Google, Tencent, Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft
>S: Tacobell, Square Enix, Red Bull
>A: Capcom, Bandai Namco, Nissin
>B: Konami, Sega, Nexon, Bushiroad
>C: Don Quijote

>>13065347
Okay, to be fair to them they WERE comparing Nissin to Yum!, the parent company of Taco bell.
That actually IS a fair comparison in revenue.
Yum! Brands : 5.597 BILLION USD
Nissin Foods: 4.119 BILLION USD

加藤純一最強!加藤純一最強!加藤純一最強!加藤純一最強!

>>13065539
onegai kadokawa, beat fromsoftware to get perms for darksouls and end the FF14 arc before it's too late

>>13065389
The publishing divison? That looks to be about right.
The parent company is in the same range as Nissin Foods the Billions (single digit) revenue USD (~2 Bil for 2021 so far)

>>13065569
HOLY SHIT, wtf is Jun doing? Livesteraming his wedding?

Last I saw he was playing fucking pokemon platinum, WTF IS GOING ON?

>>13065552
Taco bell is A tier if Nissin is A tier. Their parent companies (Nissin Foods, Yum!) operate on the same revenue level.

kado>>13065428
Using yearly revenue for a very rough comparison:
Sony: $75B
Nintendo: $10B
Don Quijote: $8B
Yum Brands (TB owner): $5.5B
Nissin: $4B
Konami: $2.5B
SEGA: $2.4
Taco Bell alone: $2B
SE: $2B
Kadokawa: $2B
Capcom: $751M

This is revenue only, but it's useful to get some idea of where these sponsors stand.

>>13065366
Working for me. 504 are usually temporary and caused by overload, which I suppose could have been caused by this Jun stream numbers to be going viral

>>13065252
Man, it seems like they get one or two good collabs/sponsorships every week.

>>13065672
ew 350k live views

>>13065703
Don Quijote is bigger than I thought.

WHAT THE FLYING FUCK?!

He's playing fucking Pokemon, it's a fucking work day, WTF are nips doing?

>>13063000
>>13063444
A little late but here you go
https://pastebin.com/NbLs85Ha
Please ignore the botan stats, it is a bug in my code that I have to inspect why it's occurring. For now, I sleep

>>13065703
Yea, Sony is big, and that's got a lot to do with how many goddamn different branches they have that are involved in oh so many different aspects.
Microsoft though, is about double what Sony is, ~140-150b.

>>13065124
Can Suisei be considered high tier/first string? Or is she still in that weird high-mid tier spot?

>>13065703
wtf, don quijote is that big? I thought it was like a mall business or something.

>Discount chain store
Is this like DAISO where they sell $1 stuff?

>>13065797
Thanks anon, you're a gentleman and a scholar

>>13065703
So Don quijote is not a low tier collaboration as anons were saying earlier.

>>13065777
Heh. I loved when that one anon asked "who's Donki? are they big?"
Like bitch, a simple google search would show you that YES. YES THEY ARE BIG.

>>13065766
>>13065789
>971k subs
>350k Live viewers
Fucking how?

>>13065848
I knew they were big but not 8bn big.

>>13065789
Jun is a god WTF is that is he playing battle tower or something?

>>13065703
Red Bull is above Yum Brands! and bellow Don Quijote
>>13065841
I guess people thought so since it was taking them so long to make even more holo dolls. Also I think they have no presence in the west outside of a few stores in Hong Kong and California.

Anon just realizing how big Donki is make me chuckle.

>>13065826
She only get great number for karaoke so overall she is high-mid tier. Now if only she did more utawaku like last year, thing might change.

>>13065919
XQC will never be able to beat Jun.

>>13065703
Sponsorship tier list:
>SSS: Microsoft, Google
>SS: Tencent, Sony
>S: Nintendo, Don Quijote, Nissin, Konami, SEGA, Taco Bell, SE, Kadokawa, Red Bull, Bandai Namco
>A: Capcom

Note that this is a tierlist for sponsorships that Hololive/Nijisanji had taken

>>13065569
I've said it before and i'm gonna say it again, Soulsborne permissions are wasted on those 2view shitters. Please give me my aqua elden ring speedrun stream.

>>13065935
Red Bull is in love with Botan and Aqua.
Wonder how long till the next promo.

>>13065703
>Yum Brands (TB owner): $5.5B
>Yum Brands
Will Hololuve ever get the golden ticket of a KFC collab? Pizza Hut is only a matter of time.

I want a pokemon permission now for pekkers.

>>13065826
Kinda hard to see, suisei is very smart and minaxes by only going for buff streams all the time. It's hard to see the limit test of her absolute floor(though ccv is not really her main goal, vod views of her songs should matter more)

>>13065878
This is why its always wise to check.
Look, the fact that they were taken by surprise at the demand for those 3000 yen plushies means we've vastly underestimated just how many of those horridly cute things they've got ready to ship out.

>>13065979
Didn't they give Subaru a shoutout on twitter? Kiara would also be like the perfect design for them.

>>13065963
I want to see Aqua’s Sekiro speed runs again.

>>13065979
Good god, imagine Kiara shilling KFC. I would kneel, like, legit. The memes would make themselves.

>>13065956
>Google
I disagree. Out of all of those this is the one sponsor that adds no value to the streamers they're sponsoring.

Every single one of the others in the list carries a sizable audience, be it foot traffic in meatspace stores or fanboys of the brand.
Google sponsorship brings none of that, going by their flagship products
>Youtube, Play Store, Chrome
they actually bring negative goodwill
> see: Youtube Rewind

Speaking of aqua is there a numberfagging on holos and the longest break streaks?

>>13066004
They were surprised twice.
One by it selling out in minutes in stores and two by the demand they got on online orders.

>>13066004
I mean yeah, at first sight, don quijote search only showed that it's a chain store. No one would equate it to 8B big at first glance. I wouldn't have put it on C tier because I thought chain store would always be below game/electronic companies.

>>13065827
>>13065935
>>13065936
Don Quijote is massive. It's not high end retail or anything but they have a lot of locations and a lot of volume. Their SEC filling actually lists their market cap at 13.9B and their sales at 15.6B but it's hard to interpret that as financial reporting can be confusing especially with exchange rates. Bottom line: they are huge. https://sec.report/CIK/0001446597 if you want to check yourself

>>13066017
That's a major reason as to why i'll never forgive and tolerate any Nijinigger.

>>13065999
>absolute floor
Penguindrum watchalong, started at 12AM

>>13065841
What? they only made 1.6 trillion yen last year

>>13065428
We numberfag this now?

>>13065956
How high are computer brands like ASUS or ACER? Nijisanji already does a bunch of them.

>>13066044
I listed it due to Niji getting a GoogleJP sponsorship months ago

>>13065789
I don't get it why are all these Japs watching Jun?

>>13066108
they got a sponsorhip literally yesterday anon.

>>13066101
We should. Sponsorships are a huge source of revenue, clout, and future collabs.

>>13066108
Yesterday too

>>13065991
Stop! This fragile world cannot handle that kind of power.

>>13066072
I know they're big, it's just that they don't have the presence where a lot of this thread lives like Yum Brands! and Red Bull.

I'm not sure if it is a big deal since it was just a few dolls someone comically underestimate the demand. Maybe they will collab further. The most interesting thing about this collab to me is they scored it in 2020, it just took them a while to get going going.

>>13066101
People will numberfag anything. Some kind JP numberfag actually did a plot on how often and for how long Okayu goes to the bathroom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9NNA9QFDUs

>>13066085
Membership only is different, did she have a shill stream?

>>13066085
one thing to pay attention to is that that one was the second part iirc. The first episodes were NND exclusives.

>>13066101
I mean, a lot of us didn't know how big some of these companies when they are sponsoring vtubers. All we know is Sony/Tencent = Multibillion company. There should be tiers so that we can keep track whenever a new company joins in the future.

>>13065428
>taco bell above nissin
gona dissagree with that one chief. i can buy Nissin ramen in any grocery story but taco bell is at best in some bigger citys and who the fuck wants to live there

https://youtu.be/sBZtnN2RkWM

A fairly popular game channel is playing Holo Funk mod. Most of their recent FNF vids have around 400k-1M. How many views do you this video will get?

>>13066142
Pekkers and her gimmick challenge can big numbers with pokemon. Fucking nintendo or gamefreak they keep on sponsoring hololive but only NND exclusive and with time limit shit.

>>13066153
Yeah that Penguindrum watchalong was a shill stream on NND but only for the first 12 episodes. After the shill stream is done she proceed to stream the rest on her channel.

Ina...... you gotta relax a bit....
https://twitter.com/HJbunko/status/1460204334973526022

>>13066151
Fuck, our numberfagging are put into shame.

>>13066153
It wasn't membership only when she "streamed" it. It's membership only in archives. However, earlier in the day she was doing a watchalong of the first half of penguindrum, now she just wanted to finish it
Pair that with the timing of the stream and it "just" being a watchalong I can understand why it's pretty mediocre

>>13066132
No other competitive streamer like NA

>>13066106
They are in the 10-15B/yr revenue range depending on exchange rates. Dell for comparison is $94B/year

>>13066198
Oh my bad, that's interesting to see though anon. This just adds to the conclusion that Suisei is good at maximizing her ceiling. Good for her.

What happened with Okayu frame? Went private, did it get Susan'd?

>>13066201
Ina's roommate account posts most of her work and that's a tiny portion of it. She is a fucking art machine when you combine her output from both identities. Her artist's premium is likely near the top of her field and she's very, very busy. She makes absolute bank even if she had literally 0 SC or members.

>>13065956
It doesn't make much sense to just rank the companies without considering the contents of the sponsorship. For example Xbox sponsored some Holo shill streams, but they were pretty low effort. Compare those to Nissin sponsorship that was much bigger with a lot of high effort content and much more investment.

>>13066294
Hmm, true. I wonder how we're gonna rank the tier list for future use. Largest shill event/stream would be Koshien/Konami though because niji made a month long event out of it.

>>13066294
On that note, how many sponsorship concerts has Niji done?

Jun 39.8K(fin.) , 80% Coco

>>13065919
Going for the Battle Factory gold print in Platinum, possibly the hardest challenge in any of the games without any self-imposed rules or anything

>>13065797
Thank you anon!

For daily top chart anon, it seems like live-ranking has some fuckery going on today:
missing one Kanata Mario Kart(8min)not sure if you'd even count this one but just to be sure
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/VNX1DLkj5hs
Shows Ina's drawing stream as having sub-10k
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/d57Jk8E6pVQ

>>13066411
Theres a pokemon d/p remake that is coming up this month right?

Wonder how long it would take to compile all the sponsorships each Holo has had. EN sounds easy enough but JP sounds like a pain.

Would you say that concerts (Vtuberfes, VILLs, and the like) count as sponsorships too?

>>13066463
>missing one Kanata Mario Kart(8min)
That will be added manually. It's not uncommon because sometimes it takes 15 min for live-ranking to pick up a stream

>Shows Ina's drawing stream as having sub-10k
These happen every so often with EN streams.

You missed one too, it didn't pick the Fauna one over 10k. I alwats cross check with Holostats and Mado to make sure it's accurate, and also with Playboard if anons submit a stream that is not from one of the majors and that doesn't get picked up by live-ranking

>>13066498
There's nothing worth for HoloEN.

>>13066479
In a few days.

>>13066098
>Only made 1.6 Trillion yen
>Only
I love it anon. Keep up the good work.
>>13066101
It's something to keep track of yes. Given that Hololive AND Nijisanji are now both in the Sponsorship game, it's wise to keep track of who's picking who, and for what. It'll give insight into how the bigger companies see them as partners for advertising.

>>13066530
Have they got anything besides gacha shilling and Taco Town? Do cons count?

>>13066085
Looking at the graph I have to wonder again how big of a debuff watchalongs are in real not Youtube numbers. I mean, it's still a debuff for sure, but by definition people are likely to be watching the movie or series on their active tab and have the streamer on another tab. As I recall, Suisei got her usual 10k likes for this stream, but especially given that this was the second half, I guess it is possible that people just dropped by and liked the stream out of principle because they like both Suisei and Penguindrum.

>>13066559
Try comparing Hololive's Weiss Schwarz with Nijisanji's Wixoss.

>>13066581
Compare before December update and after. It's possible youtube already implemented this as a form of culling but kept it to a very low amount before they cranked it up during December, but again, we don't know because Youtube. Sometimes I really fucking hate Youtube.

>>13066650
That’d be interesting.
Busbiroad came out and said that Hololive carried Weiss Schwartz this year for sales.

14/16 of pekora's streams this month has over 30k ccv, the only two streams below 30k were lost judgment streams in the middle of the day

marine 5/12
migo 6/14
only marine and migo are the only other ones that have more than 4 so far i believe?

>>13066524
Didn't mention Fauna since they don't have council there anyway iirc and they're still included. Decided to say something this time since I noticed one day a couple streams were missing and I was too lazy to say anything about it. Thanks for the charts, mate!

>>13066376
all sponsored by china and sony money

>>13065191
Japanese Holo fans care more about Holojp than Japanese Niji fans care about Nijijp.

>>13066717
Nerf pekora pls.

>>13066577
Plenty JP games sponsorships. There's pixiv, too, and others.

>>13066753
Simply unbraid her hair. She's like Samson, it's the secret to her numbers power.

>>13065191
There are only 6 of them in a year and a half.
>>13066754
>JP games
Good
>pixiv
Odd but okay.

I'm just wondering when they will get good western sponsorships/collabs. I know Korean companies are pleased to use HoloEN for some odd reason.

>>13066717
Pekora is terrifying in a sense that if people don't do do events she just wins by default even if it's the worst Mario kart stream in history. She punishes people by not working hard, truly the unsung hero of vtuber industry.

I’d say cons count seeing how they got paid to attend and they were selling Hololive merch (shirts and lanyards)

>>13066826
Atlus sponsoring kiara recently too. There's a lot of work to do counting all the big sponsors for Holos, not to mention, nijis. They spam local shop collabs like crazy, but probably ain't worth compared to a multibillion companies.

>>13066807
>Simply unbraid her hair. She's like Samson, it's the secret to her numbers power.
SHUSH! DELET THIS!

>>13066846
Pekora is literally the gold medal gatekeeper, if it's a shit stream you're not passing.

>>13066717
This is another proof that there is a difference between "Top Tier" and "Pekora Tier".

>>13066885
Council has been getting some stuff but maybe they are just an offload. Maybe there needs to be JP6 just so some more things get offloaded.

>>13066807
Anon. The braid is the limiter of her powers. Unbraided pekora would snipe empty stream slots and stream over other people's concert without hesitation.

>>13066885
This one is interesting to me. Originally she said it was Sega, not Atlus and then later said that she was told To say it was by Atlus after all.
Sega throwing around their weight?

>>13066951
Perhaps, who knows with Atlus. The fact that she was requested to specify it was Atlus specifically is interesting though, it means that Sega likely approached them after seeing the success of the Tales sponsorship as well as HoloJP's successes.

Almost at 1M views

>>13067063 (me)
Her interview on TT got about 800k in 2 days

Since some anon mention about weib shwarz, my ws addict friend dropped me this today.

https://en.ws-tcg.com/products/bp-hol/?utm_source=fb&utm_campaign=holpo&utm_id=2205&fbclid=IwAR0H3DOT88u_MF1t37qgO2ZkI82sWeMM-QjnTi1G0nxWnsYGuqtqnHCkGRU

What's the podium like today? Past midnight JST and no tally post...

>>13067135
Blue women for the podium.
1. Lamy
2. Pekora
3. Suisei

>>13067133
How fast will it sell out?

>>13067133
I wonder how it will sell in the west without HoloEN. I think there is lost potential putting HoloEN(mostly myth) into collab Siberia.

>>13066885
The Eternal game that Bae and Kronii did was from Kakao games. The publisher of pubg and Path of exile. They have potential. It's a leading tech giant in Korea

All these talk about sponsorships when all I want is for kadokawa to make an anime out from Holoalt. Mappa/Cloverworks/ufotable is out of the question. Maybe Kyoani would take up the mantle for their new fresh anime project.

>>13067215
Kakao and Nexon sponsored HoloEN. Two Korean companies testing out the waters and Bae leading the front for HoloKR instead of Kronii and Ina.

>>13067267
Bae is gonna be the go to sponsor girl I feel. She’s good at shilling.

>>13067267
I wouldn't say Bae as the leader but more of Kronii and Bae with Mumei as a +1. Kronii has more korean fans just basing from SCs and fan arts and clips and just CCV

>>13065789

>>13067133
Do they do a pre-order?

I saw the title of Luna stream with 'Pokemon' on it and thought that it was one of the mainlines but instead is a puzzle game. Permissions never..

>>13067290
Bae did good with her shill. She's still lagging as far as SCs so it's great that she gets spons. Her Shill streams did good CCV wise as well

>>13067215
I wonder if that one gook feels pride in his shitpost getting this far. I wish my shitposting was that powerful.

>>13067135
Tally usually comes after 1AM JST because that's when live-ranking stops updating the ongoing streams

>>13067290
But she doesn't have a good CCV

>>13067427
Kiara....

[11/15 Niji HoloJoint Ranking]
1. Yukihana Lamy (Birthday LIVE) 83,318
2. Pekora Usada (Slither.io) 35,886
3. Hoshimachi Suisei (Song Frame) 32,368
4. Houshou Marine (Atsu) Mori) 22,496
5. Sakura Miko (Bio HD Remake) 21,571
6. Amane Kanata (Mario Cart # 1) 19,696
7. Amane Kanata (Mario Cart # 2) 19,382
8. Amane Kanata (Mario Cart # 3) ) 12,681
9. Omar polka (Minecraft) 11,901
10. Kano (Valorant) 11,593 ※ provisional value (determined after NijiMado confirmation)

[10,000 or more frame number]
holo-13 frame (Ramyi - Pekora, Suisei, Marine, Miko, Kanata, Kanata, Kanata, Polka, Inanis, Mio, Fubuki, Fauna)
Niji 3 frames (Kano, Anju, Ibrahim)

>>13067408
>I wish my shitposting was that powerful.
Be careful anon, shitpost from multiple boards in this site has a body count

>>13067505
Kano and Omar Polka are my favourites.

>>13067427
If she can sell shit, it’s fine. Also depends on the thing she’s shilling as well.
Kiara has a dedicated JRPG fanbase that makes her a good candidate for shilling JRPGs even though her CCV sucks.
Compare that to Mori or Gura who were bored to death doing Scarlet Nexus.

>>13067505
That's a different format than usual. Does this come from the JP side?
>>13067507
Meme magic is purely neutral. Please use with caution as it does not discriminate good vs evil.

>>13067507
Transformers do not count

>Ollie is taking a 2-week break to focus on her health
>Moona is in the process of moving and her internet at home is shit so she's gonna return from her break by December once she's fully moved in her new apartment
Not a good month for HoloID's numbers

>>13067553
yeah its from nip numberfags, they seem to only include holos and nijis in their daily top 10s, well no non-holoniji got enough to get to top 10 today anyway

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *
Here it goes

>83,257: Lamy (Hololive)
>35,839: Pekora (Hololive)
>32,367: Suisei (Hololive)
>23,204: Marine (Hololive)
>21,574: Miko (Hololive)
>18,996: Kanata (Hololive)
>18,994: Kanata (Hololive)
>12,681: Kanata (Hololive)
>11,877: Polka (Hololive)
>11,577: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11,087: Ina (Hololive)
>10,755: Ange Katrina (Nijisanji)
>10,751: Mio (Hololive)
>10,666: Fubuki (Hololive)
>10,634: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>10,358: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,253: Shibuya Hal (merise)

>>13067613
Not a good month indeed, 3/6 out. At least Moona should be in a better spot to stream again if things are okay enough at home for her to move out.

>>13067767
JEEZUZ. Kanae saved a top 10 sweep, but yeesh.

>>13067553
>>13067561
/pol/ has a body count too. Multiple ones actually, this one being the funniest
>even before the capture the flag with that actor, what's his name

>>13067689
got a link to the source?

>>13067767
>>18,996: Kanata (Hololive)
>>18,994: Kanata (Hololive)
>>12,681: Kanata (Hololive)
Absolutely illegal. I know she was shitposting but this does no pass regulations.

One name, one stream unless both or more are 40 minutes or longer.

>>13067767
>Polka and Lamy's impromptu MC collab in the middle of the night got in the top 10
sugoi...

>>13067779
At least Risu's streaming regularly again, Reine and Anya cannot carry HoloID's numbers on their own

>>13067867
As the king of this thread I proclaim that Kanata's strean are allowed

>>13067545
You come at the clown, you best not miss

some more from nip numberfags
Current number of frames over 10,000
Holo: 186
Niji: 66

Maximum number of wins in November
Holo 7
Pekora 4
Niji 4
Kuzuha 0

>>13067860
http://virtualyoutuber-matome.blog.jp/archives/12558206.html
they don't give a shit about the articles kek they just use the comments as a numberfagging thread

>>13067867
Pekora's double 30k Mario kart stream already got counted before so might as well let stuff like this go.

>>13067767
Hololive 13
Nijisanji 4

>>13067955
I see we only do this for hololive huh. It's a coincidence don't you think?

>>13067976
>I see we only do this for hololive huh. It's a coincidence don't you think?
There had been nijis before, what are you talking about?

>>13067955

Also Kuzuha accidentally closing his stream and then 2 Apex stream in the top 5. It happens all the time

>>13067867
I would usually agree but she genuinely made three frames in advance, had three thumbnails and three different titles. I usually only "dock" restarts because of Youtube issues, not deliberate multiple streams

>>13067767
Emperor bros?

Speaking of Mio entering 10k what do you guys think of her performance lately? She seems to be the most stable and consistent one in gamers in terms of ccv (8k to 12k is her recent floor), not really gold material but it's interesting to look at.

One of DWU's girls is doing personalized signings for donations like Nene was doing a little while back and getting a ton of money for an audience that small, I'm surprised more chuubas haven't been doing this

>>13065428
kadokawa does over 1/3 of all anime and they got huge share of isekai/novel market

if holodive ever get a legit anime, will be by kadokawa

>>13067952
Their numbers match the ones in this thread. Maybe there is some cross pollination going on?

>Nihon-nikis, REVEAL YOUR PRESENCE!

>>13068067
she's returning to her pre-capcom state. almost

>>13068081
>I'm surprised more chuubas haven't been doing this
Time is of essence, signing stuff is hard work, sending signed stuff is hard work and a hassle.

Since NijiKR is now only a husk, I wonder why they didn't adopt the Hololive style of more performance base instead of just being pure streamers. They are in the motherland of kpop, might as well use that chance to numberfag it to high heaven. Now, they lost to their biggest non-existent rival, and a group that copies from Hololive. What an embarrassment.

>>13068188
I doubt nijis from KR know how to dance

>>13068188
One of KR girl organized Nijisanji karaoke relay a few months ago. She got a pretty good CCV at that relay but unfortunately didn't translate well into subs and CCV.

>>13068097
It doesn't even need to be a full blown anime. A cameo on "Isekai Quartet" would be enough.

I could easily see a storyline of Aqua trading places with Aqua, Shion getting swapped with Aura and Gwelu making a cameo replacing Demiurge (because why not)

>>13068255
*AHEM*
Flare getting swapped with Aura

>>13068251
Reminds me of when they did the NijiMale relay and half the relay audience left after Kanae did his.

>>13068255
fuck no, were you not an anime-only fag before? imagine watching isekai quartet that time then seeing some random chuubas you dont give a shit about appearing. it would be controversial as fuck

>>13067832
/r9k/ also has a body count.

How long until /vt/ gets its first scalp? What could cause an anon from this humble board to go beserk?

>>13068255
they just need to give more staff to the hologra devs and put it on TV

So...how many Holo merch does Ina participate?
Including the latest Marine one

>>13068168
Nothing is being sent, it's all just on the screen

>>13068321
>then seeing some random chuubas you dont give a shit about appearing.
That's pretty much all of Isekai Quartet so far, including the fact it is no longer a "quartet" of shows but pretty much an amalgamation of everything Kadokawa.
This and the fact it is pretty much a glorified omake would make it at very least less controversial than a participation in a proper anime

>>13068346
She did some for Miku and a couple for Molly Crane game.

>>13068370
>Nothing is being sent, it's all just on the screen
Really? Thought they were doing like cosplay thots, singning posters and sending

>>13065389
I've honestly wondered if Kadokawa would buy Hololive. They could afford it, and it would fit neatly into their expansion into online media with Trash Taste.

>>13068324
Which chuba will be the first casualty?

>>13068434
doubt they will sell it, at most they can try investing into it

>>13068437
Gawr Gura

>>13068434
That would be a very risky investment since no one knows the longevity of this new profession.

>>13068437
Kiara

>>13068437
I don't know, I could easily see more a /here/chuuba going beserk and either self harming on stream or going full menhera and harming someone

>>13067767
Holo 9 - 1 Niji
Kanae barely scraped by to prevent a clean wipe

>>13067613
Ollie's break is still in December. That being said November will be Ollie's month among HoloID, she'll probably be able to close the gap between her and Moona even more

>>13067952
damn, that comment section has some salt and gems in it. Thanks for the link, highly entertaining.

>>13068404
Nenes 200iq way of doing sc readings. she gets a cute drawing as a base and signs it with your name and even adds things if you request it(like drawing her angry or adding some text etc.)

>>13068346
Now I know why Sana is on the roster and why management gives zero fucks on what she does.

>>13068759
Such as?

>>13068808
That's big brain as fuck

>>13068818
Because they need a backup artist?

>>13067952
>they're also praising how strong red and blue women are
Kek

The top number for tomorrow will probably be Xbox stream.

>>13068977
More context? Holo or niji?

>>13068977
Phil sama I kneel

>>13068954
Do you not see how busy Ina (and by extension roommate) is? Cover has a LOT of stuff that needs art, and having priority access to another well-known artist is pretty useful, on top of her streaming. Just wish she herself cared about her numbers more, but that's on Cover and management.

>>13065703
Jesus christ people in this fucking thread don't even understand what Don Quijote is end me.
Won't leave tho, Having too much fun seeing tribalist fight over who has the least reclining viewers.

>>13069030
They don't tell her to increase numbers because artists get burnt out real fast. They force her, she can't draw, they get nothing. They let her do her stuff, she enjoys it, they get a lot of arts. Simple as that, if you don't mind me explaining.

>>13068827
First off, I don't read moonrunes well enough so relied on deepl. All might just be hilarious translation errors. Nothing really quote wordy except.

"Fun and happiness are subjective, and the numbers are meaningless because holo wins, honestly. "
I don't know if that is dejected or just factual, but yea.
Most of it is just the same loops as we have here.

>>13069030
She has some paypigs to at least keep her relevant in some way to us. Makes me wonder if they'll get another top quality artist for HoloEN3.
>>13069046
It wasn't a big collab. Just some shitty dolls.

>>13069066
Yea, I know that's how it goes, so no biggie for explaining it if others don't get why they don't force her.
Though it DOES look like she's starting to understand that she does have to at least mix in meta choices like Evil God Korone to not completely filter everyone away, which imo is a healthier way go about it because even if she says she doesn't care, deep down she can see the numbers as clear as anyone, and EVERY streamer is a numberfag, even if they claim to not care.

>>13067952
>they don't give a shit about the articles kek they just use the comments as a numberfagging thread
The "articles" ie 5ch posts are usually better. The comments section is probably the worst cesspit I have ever seen. I prefer /vt/sisters gossip to the venom I find there.

>>13067952
I recognize that false flagger from Pekora thread on 5ch, Every time Pekora does something big, like F14 recently, false flaggers pretending to be fans dissapointed in her appear and latter shitty article with their post will show up. Hell some don't even bother to change id and write posts like "I can's watch Pekora after this" every week.

>>13069154
Rookie tier falseflagging.

>>13069151
/vt/ seems way milder than the other top 10. with the most activity on 4chan.

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>>13069100

>It wasn't a big collab. Just some shitty dolls.

delicious cope

>>13069151
hey there's some gold there too

When is the best time to announce auditions reopening?
During a major event or special stream?
On an uneventful day?

>>13069322
>332
Oh lord that is a masterpiece.

>>13069342
Auditions gonna get flooded regardless, better to announce it in a way that doesn't step on a talent's toes if you can help it, unless they're okay with it.

Predictions?
I think 2k

>>13069322
Kek
Nice to know they shitpost about Kuzuha numbers as well

>>13069342
Depends on your size. If it is Niji/Holo just do a short tweet on an uneventful day since the internet will catch fire and people will instantly forget the last thing that happened. If you're not very big do it when the most amount of eyes are on your.

>>13069456
Reminds me how Nijisanji would announce their debuts/auditions right after Hololive did in the past.

>>13069411
I won't go that low, but I don't think it breaks 5k.

>>13069495
When you do 20 waves a year it is hard not to do that.

>>13069411
3k

>>13069411
4.3k

>>13067952
>http://virtualyoutuber-matome.blog.jp/archives/12558206.html
Top kek, here is an attempted translation of a couple of posts.

Can someone correct me if I got it terribly wrong? N9999 here and I think I may have missed a hint of "sarcasm" and reversed the meaning of the last two sentences

>>13069342
What company or branch? Holo JP for example always open their audition. Holo ID announced their audition on an uneventful day, same with Niji EN.

>>13069514
But Holo is the one to perfect the Niji formula.

>>13069342
>On an uneventful day?
Depends if you want to receive serious offers only or to sift through ten thousand retards thinking they can start their career from zero experience into a company.

Think about it, forget about vtubers.
>When is the best time to announce auditions for a stage play role?
>During a major show with a full house?
>On an uneventful day through the proper recruiting channels?

>>13069619
I know some moon. 321 is 100% taking the piss and 386 is just giving a tongue in cheek chaser.

>>13066262
The dark deception stream? Game bugged out and she couldn't get it to work so she didn't see the point keeping it available then did a zatsudan.

>>13069671
kek, just like here then. Is the translation at least accurate?

>>13069696
Lots of tech problems today, Okayu, then Pekora.

>>13065789
Holy number, sasuga pekora's husband

>>13069619
>321
>Niji is looking good, if they will continue like this they might beat Pekora.

>>13069619
>I want to win this month
sorry nijibro

>>13069746
Nijisanji only has to got 12-3 the rest of the way to win the month.

>>13069619
Your translation is wrong. It's
>Niji looking good, it seems they can beat the Pekora box if it stays like this

>>13069839
>only

>>13069841
So it's Niji vs Pekora now or what?

>>13069864
Yeah last month Pekora had more wins than Nijisanji.

>>13069841
Doesn't "Pekora tte X" become "X except Pekora"?

11月1〜15日 Tangent median ranking
This includes all re-framing.
This is just a rough guide.

nameーframesーmedianーaverage

あくあ 2 38095.5 38095.5
ぺこら 16 34861 36589.4
マリン 12 29229.5 32905.9
みこ 14 25518.5 34552.5
すいせい 7 24919 27931.7
ころね 4 19969 19754
るしあ 6 19400 29771
スバル 12 19075 21830.5
シオン 5 17871 21502.2
AZKi 1 17697 17697
かなた 12 12092.5 14442.5
ぼたん 11 10571 10691.2
ミオ 9 10467 13059.1
ノエル 8 9311 10281.5
ねね 10 9188.5 9435.8
ラミィ 15 9067 13929.7
フブキ 19 8867 11684.84
おかゆ 11 8533 10934.1
わため 13 8340 10371.6
フレア 11 8014 10575.2
はあと 8 7884.5 8160.3
トワ 12 6106 6410.4
ルーナ 13 5618 5762.6
ポルカ 6 5429.5 6618.3
ちょこ 7 4804 4999.5
メル 8 4663.5 4839.2
そら 9 4145 5225.2
アキロゼ 3 2657 3799
まつり 6 2534 4611.6
ロボ子 13 2356 2636.9
(あやめ 配信なし)

I saw Bora is suddenly graduating, I understand this is a hard hit for niji kr, will they average fall below niji id?

>>13069850
If Hololive can go 11-4 Nijisanji can got 12-3.

>>13070130
I don't see how

>>13070114
>フブキ 19 8867 11684.84
>19
Jesus christ, she's gonna die. I hate to be that guy but she needs to rest.

>>13070130
Maybe if this was before Hololive's grand incline, but not anymore. Not without a big event that lasts for half the month+, sorry Nijibros.

>>13070114
>(あやめ 配信なし)

>>13070130
Niji barely won the koshien month 15-13. This is in their strongest month. You really think they can recover now ?

>>13070120
You bet it is. In a few months, it's gonna be NijiIN all over again. They need at least one or two person with consistent 500+ views if the theory was true to keep the branch. Who's gonna pay for the managers?

>>13070161
She does relatively short streams, so its not as big of a deal as it looks. Like, lots of steams under 90 minutes. It's really how she's able to manage all the shit she gets wrt sponsorships, because if she did longer streams there's no way she'd have enough time in the day.

>>13070120
>will they average fall below niji id?
Their median is not significantly better than NijiID, one streamer can't pull up a whole branch.

>>13070203
I thought all of their personnels are volunteers given they don't even pay their livers wages.

>>13070224
She does way more than stream, if the 20% figure Lamy cites is accurate Fubuki is being run ragged. Some of this work needs to get delegated

>>13069975
No, my language skill suck at english, japanese and my native language so I can't explain wtf tte mean here. I think it's closer to article. X without Pekora should be "Pekora inai X".
Once again I learned english and japanese from media consumption only, but my translation is correct looking at context. 321 is
clearly making fan of Niji since they are same as Pekora. Saying Niji will beat holo without Pekora makes no sense when they are clearly behind.

>>13070231
So what would NijiKR median be without Bora?

I wonder if the increased viewership brought about by the EN crowd thanks to clippers and memes during late 2019-early 2020 resulted in a sort of domino effect that made the JP audience notice Hololive more? They wouldn't really care where and what caused the numbers to go that high. All they'd know is this small company was starting to pick up steam. Not to me to mention its common behavior for people to bandwagon. Even now, looking at post from matome and other JP chan sites, and even something like Hololive having more entries in comiket. it's starting to feel like Holo dominating the Vtuber sphere is becoming a fact rather than an opinion.

>>13069741
tfw a whole company struggles to get more wins than a single chuuba

Is that another Tales of sponsorship for Kiara? It being with Suisei makes me doubt it.

>>13070161
>Jesus christ, she's gonna die. I hate to be that guy but she needs to rest.
>>13070224
>She does relatively short streams, so its not as big of a deal as it looks.
Exactly. Number of streams is not a good metric, here is a chart for the nuimber of hours streamed for the month of November so far

The format is
>num_streams hours streamed :: mean streams :: author (gen)

Here is the list
>13 hours streamed :: 6718 streams :: Watame (jp4)
>16 hours streamed :: 27277 streams :: Pekora (jp3)
>22 hours streamed :: 513 streams :: Aruran (stars1)
>12 hours streamed :: 7741 streams :: Calli (en1)
>13 hours streamed :: 27023 streams :: Miko (jp0)
>12 hours streamed :: 15519 streams :: Subaru (jp2)
>9 hours streamed :: 9851 streams :: IRyS (ensingers)
>11 hours streamed :: 5728 streams :: Kiara (en1)
>20 hours streamed :: 9690 streams :: Fubuki (jp1)
>15 hours streamed :: 9546 streams :: Lamy (jp5)
>13 hours streamed :: 4632 streams :: Luna (jp4)
>13 hours streamed :: 1807 streams :: Ollie (id2)
>11 hours streamed :: 1357 streams :: Reine (id2)
>9 hours streamed :: 7372 streams :: Flare (jp3)
>11 hours streamed :: 7034 streams :: Botan (jp5)
>14 hours streamed :: 1843 streams :: Roboco (jp0)
>8 hours streamed :: 3232 streams :: Mel (jp1)
>12 hours streamed :: 22076 streams :: Marine (jp3)
>12 hours streamed :: 4788 streams :: Towa (jp4)
>11 hours streamed :: 1096 streams :: Risu (id1)
>8 hours streamed :: 7099 streams :: Noel (jp3)
>10 hours streamed :: 567 streams :: Temma (stars2)
>10 hours streamed :: 9608 streams :: Baelz (en2)
>10 hours streamed :: 6264 streams :: Nene (jp5)
>8 hours streamed :: 949 streams :: Leda (stars2)
>6 hours streamed :: 12902 streams :: Rushia (jp3)
>8 hours streamed :: 9881 streams :: Mumei (en2)
>8 hours streamed :: 6606 streams :: Haachama (jp1)
>11 hours streamed :: 9767 streams :: Kanata (jp4)
>10 hours streamed :: 7815 streams :: Okayu (jpgamers)
>10 hours streamed :: 781 streams :: Roberu (stars2)
>7 hours streamed :: 9383 streams :: Kuronii (en2)
>9 hours streamed :: 9836 streams :: Amelia (en1)
>9 hours streamed :: 5519 streams :: Polka (jp5)
>6 hours streamed :: 15394 streams :: Gura (en1)
>7 hours streamed :: 6517 streams :: Fauna (en2)
>8 hours streamed :: 4364 streams :: Sora (jp0)
>6 hours streamed :: 991 streams :: Anya (id2)
>7 hours streamed :: 862 streams :: Rikka (stars1)
>6 hours streamed :: 558 streams :: Miyabi (stars1)
>5 hours streamed :: 15734 streams :: Shion (jp2)
>4 hours streamed :: 9461 streams :: Ina (en1)
>6 hours streamed :: 5936 streams :: Sana (en2)
>6 hours streamed :: 619 streams :: Oga (stars3)
>9 hours streamed :: 10396 streams :: Mio (jpgamers)
>7 hours streamed :: 3498 streams :: Choco (jp2)
>6 hours streamed :: 3458 streams :: Matsuri (jp1)
>4 hours streamed :: 694 streams :: Izuru (stars1)
>7 hours streamed :: 22495 streams :: Suisei (jp0)
>5 hours streamed :: 552 streams :: Shien (stars3)
>4 hours streamed :: 14026 streams :: Korone (jpgamers)
>2 hours streamed :: 22140 streams :: Aqua (jp2)
>3 hours streamed :: 3217 streams :: Aki (jp1)
>1 hours streamed :: 1028 streams :: Moona (id1)
>1 hours streamed :: 12532 streams :: AZKi (jp0)
>1 hours streamed :: 9020 streams :: Hololive (corp0)

>>13070161
>Jesus christ, she's gonna die. I hate to be that guy but she needs to rest.
>>13070224
>She does relatively short streams, so its not as big of a deal as it looks.
Exactly. Number of streams is not a good metric, here is a chart for the nuimber of hours streamed for the month of November so far

The format is
>hours_streamed hours streamed :: num_streams streams :: author (gen)

Here is teh list
>58 hours streamed :: 13 streams :: Watame (jp4)
>53 hours streamed :: 16 streams :: Pekora (jp3)
>48 hours streamed :: 22 streams :: Aruran (stars1)
>45 hours streamed :: 12 streams :: Calli (en1)
>43 hours streamed :: 13 streams :: Miko (jp0)
>39 hours streamed :: 12 streams :: Subaru (jp2)
>39 hours streamed :: 9 streams :: IRyS (ensingers)
>39 hours streamed :: 11 streams :: Kiara (en1)
>36 hours streamed :: 20 streams :: Fubuki (jp1)
>35 hours streamed :: 15 streams :: Lamy (jp5)
>33 hours streamed :: 13 streams :: Luna (jp4)
>33 hours streamed :: 13 streams :: Ollie (id2)
>33 hours streamed :: 11 streams :: Reine (id2)
>31 hours streamed :: 9 streams :: Flare (jp3)
>30 hours streamed :: 11 streams :: Botan (jp5)
>30 hours streamed :: 14 streams :: Roboco (jp0)
>28 hours streamed :: 8 streams :: Mel (jp1)
>27 hours streamed :: 12 streams :: Marine (jp3)
>27 hours streamed :: 12 streams :: Towa (jp4)
>26 hours streamed :: 11 streams :: Risu (id1)
>25 hours streamed :: 8 streams :: Noel (jp3)
>23 hours streamed :: 10 streams :: Temma (stars2)
>22 hours streamed :: 10 streams :: Baelz (en2)
>22 hours streamed :: 10 streams :: Nene (jp5)
>22 hours streamed :: 8 streams :: Leda (stars2)
>21 hours streamed :: 6 streams :: Rushia (jp3)
>20 hours streamed :: 8 streams :: Mumei (en2)
>19 hours streamed :: 8 streams :: Haachama (jp1)
>18 hours streamed :: 11 streams :: Kanata (jp4)
>18 hours streamed :: 10 streams :: Okayu (jpgamers)
>18 hours streamed :: 10 streams :: Roberu (stars2)
>17 hours streamed :: 7 streams :: Kuronii (en2)
>16 hours streamed :: 9 streams :: Amelia (en1)
>15 hours streamed :: 9 streams :: Polka (jp5)
>13 hours streamed :: 6 streams :: Gura (en1)
>13 hours streamed :: 7 streams :: Fauna (en2)
>13 hours streamed :: 8 streams :: Sora (jp0)
>13 hours streamed :: 6 streams :: Anya (id2)
>13 hours streamed :: 7 streams :: Rikka (stars1)
>13 hours streamed :: 6 streams :: Miyabi (stars1)
>12 hours streamed :: 5 streams :: Shion (jp2)
>12 hours streamed :: 4 streams :: Ina (en1)
>12 hours streamed :: 6 streams :: Sana (en2)
>12 hours streamed :: 6 streams :: Oga (stars3)
>10 hours streamed :: 9 streams :: Mio (jpgamers)
>9 hours streamed :: 7 streams :: Choco (jp2)
>9 hours streamed :: 6 streams :: Matsuri (jp1)
>9 hours streamed :: 4 streams :: Izuru (stars1)
>8 hours streamed :: 7 streams :: Suisei (jp0)
>8 hours streamed :: 5 streams :: Shien (stars3)
>7 hours streamed :: 4 streams :: Korone (jpgamers)
>6 hours streamed :: 2 streams :: Aqua (jp2)
>6 hours streamed :: 3 streams :: Aki (jp1)
>3 hours streamed :: 1 streams :: Moona (id1)
>1 hours streamed :: 1 streams :: AZKi (jp0)
>1 hours streamed :: 1 streams :: Hololive (corp0)

Can someone explain to me why most of HoloEn stream at different times? Are they retarded?

>>13070965
No. Yes.

>>13068479
>no one knows the longevity of this new profession
This whole thing depends on whether the whole metaverse thing really takes off and normalizes the idea that an avatar can be used to represent a persona in the eyes of many. If I were a betting man in a major corporation, I would be sinking money into it in the off chance that it succeeds. It's only a choice between first mover advantage and a tax write off.

>>13070965
Do you "at different times" as in
>spread out through the day to avoid overlapping and to fill as much airtime as possible
or
>without a consistent schedule so you can't always count on a streamer being on a set time slot
?

>>13071029
Lack of consistent schedule.

>>13070120
If they pull the plug I hope they just transfer Ban Hada over to Niji EN. I realize she's not an amazing streamer and will probably be under even Reimu but the EN branch is eventually gonna have 30+ vtubers so not everyone needs to a prestige talent. Would suck if she had to graduate and go be in something like MyHoloTv.

>>13071060
Kiara at one point explicited stated she was trying to stream at different times so that her EU, NA, and JP audiences would each get some in primetime. This of course is a terrible idea numbers wise but that was the idea. Other than that, the answer seems to be they are doing well enough they don't really have to give a shit and just stream whenever they feel like. Except Ina, she's pretty consistent.

>>13070898
Interesting, made me decide to look up vshojos hours on twitch this month
veibae 61
ironmouse 53
froot 45
nyanners 36
zentreya 33
silvervale 28
melody 27
hime 2

>>13070965
With how little council streams outside of rrat Cover unironically needs HoloEN3. I expect them in April.

>>13071022
>and normalizes the idea that an avatar can be used to represent a persona in the eyes of many
It's funny that this is just the internet going full circle. Here is the thing that most people didn't think: old forums, like the phpBB ones, were nothing but
>text only pngtubers
You had an avatar, an assumed name and your anonymity (actually pseudonymity) for as long as you wanted.

Then Facebook came with "real name" policy, Google followed suit with that retardation that Google Plus was and now people frow upon **not** giving your personal information.
Going back to avatars will be just going full circle

>>13071060
>Lack of consistent schedule.
>>13071097
>Kiara at one point explicited stated she was trying to stream at different times so that her EU, NA, and JP audiences would each get some in primetime
Fauna said the same. RatGirl clearly does it as a matter of strategy.

>>13070564
Bandwagoners definitely wxiarz and I also distinctly remember one JPniki SCing one of the myth girls and saying they got 'reverse rabbit holed', as in they got attracted by these new big foreign chubbas, and found HoloJP that way. Reverse is true as well, discover HoloJP, fall into HoloEn.
>>13071123
Well, unsurprisingly streamers that don't have responsibilities outside of streaming for their job stream more. More news at 11.

>>13070898
>48 hours streamed :: 22 streams :: Aruran (stars1)
the pain

>>13071022
If it catches on the talent pool with be stronger at the top. They'll never have trouble filling roles though, there are tons of guys who want to. I'm not too sure about females though, I feel that the supply might be limited.

>>13071199
But we haven't gotten to the point where we can have illegal view funneling in the west. Like I see Gura end a stream and IRyS go up 1k but it isn't on the JP level.

>>13071249
>Well, unsurprisingly blah blah blah
Just numbers, wasn't trying to make a point

>>13071123
How much of it is reacting to videos though? 50%? More?

>>13071323
Like 10% maybe, depends on the streamer
You guys really shouldn't believe all you read /here/

>>13071314
So far, given the number of steramers, it's less about the funnel and more about sucking the air out of the sales of any potential competition.

>>13071411
>streamers
>sails
Atama ga okashii

>>13071141
To early. At earliest next summer. Assuming there actually is demand for more HoloEN.

>>13070898
Here is the chart for watched hours
>pic related

Here is the data. Holostats ate a Calli stream there so it should be higher but I don't have the data for it.

Here it goes
>1439795 watched hours :: 27277 mean CCV :: 16 hours streamed :: Pekora (jp3)
>1170987 watched hours :: 27023 mean CCV :: 13 hours streamed :: Miko (jp0)
>600597 watched hours :: 15519 mean CCV :: 12 hours streamed :: Subaru (jp2)
>585742 watched hours :: 22076 mean CCV :: 12 hours streamed :: Marine (jp3)
>386968 watched hours :: 6718 mean CCV :: 13 hours streamed :: Watame (jp4)
>383214 watched hours :: 9851 mean CCV :: 9 hours streamed :: IRyS (ensingers)
>352099 watched hours :: 7741 mean CCV :: 12 hours streamed :: Calli (en1)
>348047 watched hours :: 9690 mean CCV :: 20 hours streamed :: Fubuki (jp1)
>335693 watched hours :: 9546 mean CCV :: 15 hours streamed :: Lamy (jp5)
>277168 watched hours :: 12902 mean CCV :: 6 hours streamed :: Rushia (jp3)
>226696 watched hours :: 7372 mean CCV :: 9 hours streamed :: Flare (jp3)
>224813 watched hours :: 5728 mean CCV :: 11 hours streamed :: Kiara (en1)
>213936 watched hours :: 9608 mean CCV :: 10 hours streamed :: Baelz (en2)
>209386 watched hours :: 7034 mean CCV :: 11 hours streamed :: Botan (jp5)
>206284 watched hours :: 15394 mean CCV :: 6 hours streamed :: Gura (en1)
>199271 watched hours :: 9881 mean CCV :: 8 hours streamed :: Mumei (en2)
>187233 watched hours :: 15734 mean CCV :: 5 hours streamed :: Shion (jp2)
>183338 watched hours :: 22495 mean CCV :: 7 hours streamed :: Suisei (jp0)
>176937 watched hours :: 9767 mean CCV :: 11 hours streamed :: Kanata (jp4)
>175346 watched hours :: 7099 mean CCV :: 8 hours streamed :: Noel (jp3)
>158686 watched hours :: 9836 mean CCV :: 9 hours streamed :: Amelia (en1)
>155913 watched hours :: 9383 mean CCV :: 7 hours streamed :: Kuronii (en2)
>153149 watched hours :: 4632 mean CCV :: 13 hours streamed :: Luna (jp4)
>143536 watched hours :: 7815 mean CCV :: 10 hours streamed :: Okayu (jpgamers)
>137639 watched hours :: 22140 mean CCV :: 2 hours streamed :: Aqua (jp2)
>135713 watched hours :: 6264 mean CCV :: 10 hours streamed :: Nene (jp5)
>127029 watched hours :: 4788 mean CCV :: 12 hours streamed :: Towa (jp4)
>125520 watched hours :: 6606 mean CCV :: 8 hours streamed :: Haachama (jp1)
>113850 watched hours :: 9461 mean CCV :: 4 hours streamed :: Ina (en1)
>108291 watched hours :: 10396 mean CCV :: 9 hours streamed :: Mio (jpgamers)
>103558 watched hours :: 14026 mean CCV :: 4 hours streamed :: Korone (jpgamers)
>90000 watched hours :: 3232 mean CCV :: 8 hours streamed :: Mel (jp1)
>84508 watched hours :: 6517 mean CCV :: 7 hours streamed :: Fauna (en2)
>80301 watched hours :: 5519 mean CCV :: 9 hours streamed :: Polka (jp5)
>72611 watched hours :: 5936 mean CCV :: 6 hours streamed :: Sana (en2)
>60144 watched hours :: 1807 mean CCV :: 13 hours streamed :: Ollie (id2)
>57682 watched hours :: 4364 mean CCV :: 8 hours streamed :: Sora (jp0)
>55145 watched hours :: 1843 mean CCV :: 14 hours streamed :: Roboco (jp0)
>45365 watched hours :: 1357 mean CCV :: 11 hours streamed :: Reine (id2)
>31189 watched hours :: 3498 mean CCV :: 7 hours streamed :: Choco (jp2)
>30950 watched hours :: 3458 mean CCV :: 6 hours streamed :: Matsuri (jp1)
>28051 watched hours :: 1096 mean CCV :: 11 hours streamed :: Risu (id1)
>24786 watched hours :: 513 mean CCV :: 22 hours streamed :: Aruran (stars1)
>21212 watched hours :: 949 mean CCV :: 8 hours streamed :: Leda (stars2)
>18284 watched hours :: 3217 mean CCV :: 3 hours streamed :: Aki (jp1)
>16083 watched hours :: 12532 mean CCV :: 1 hours streamed :: AZKi (jp0)
>14127 watched hours :: 781 mean CCV :: 10 hours streamed :: Roberu (stars2)
>13164 watched hours :: 567 mean CCV :: 10 hours streamed :: Temma (stars2)
>12960 watched hours :: 991 mean CCV :: 6 hours streamed :: Anya (id2)
>11068 watched hours :: 862 mean CCV :: 7 hours streamed :: Rikka (stars1)
>8419 watched hours :: 9020 mean CCV :: 1 hours streamed :: Hololive (corp0)
>7553 watched hours :: 619 mean CCV :: 6 hours streamed :: Oga (stars3)
>7016 watched hours :: 558 mean CCV :: 6 hours streamed :: Miyabi (stars1)
>6473 watched hours :: 694 mean CCV :: 4 hours streamed :: Izuru (stars1)
>4653 watched hours :: 552 mean CCV :: 5 hours streamed :: Shien (stars3)
>2639 watched hours :: 1028 mean CCV :: 1 hours streamed :: Moona (id1)

>>13071455
Anyone in Holo EN can basically stream anything at any time of the day and get 5k, aside from watchalongs, SC reading, and some super debuff stuff like weird Sana streams or Kiara JRPG Part 9. There's still clearly demand and plenty of dead hours, as long as they don't all cluster at like 6-12 EST.

Here is the chart for watched hours
>pic related

Here is the data. Holostats ate a Calli stream there so it should be higher but I don't have the data for it.

Here it goes
>1439795 watched hours :: 27277 mean CCV :: 53 hours streamed :: Pekora (jp3)
>1170987 watched hours :: 27023 mean CCV :: 43 hours streamed :: Miko (jp0)
>600597 watched hours :: 15519 mean CCV :: 39 hours streamed :: Subaru (jp2)
>585742 watched hours :: 22076 mean CCV :: 27 hours streamed :: Marine (jp3)
>386968 watched hours :: 6718 mean CCV :: 58 hours streamed :: Watame (jp4)
>383214 watched hours :: 9851 mean CCV :: 39 hours streamed :: IRyS (ensingers)
>352099 watched hours :: 7741 mean CCV :: 45 hours streamed :: Calli (en1)
>348047 watched hours :: 9690 mean CCV :: 36 hours streamed :: Fubuki (jp1)
>335693 watched hours :: 9546 mean CCV :: 35 hours streamed :: Lamy (jp5)
>277168 watched hours :: 12902 mean CCV :: 21 hours streamed :: Rushia (jp3)
>226696 watched hours :: 7372 mean CCV :: 31 hours streamed :: Flare (jp3)
>224813 watched hours :: 5728 mean CCV :: 39 hours streamed :: Kiara (en1)
>213936 watched hours :: 9608 mean CCV :: 22 hours streamed :: Baelz (en2)
>209386 watched hours :: 7034 mean CCV :: 30 hours streamed :: Botan (jp5)
>206284 watched hours :: 15394 mean CCV :: 13 hours streamed :: Gura (en1)
>199271 watched hours :: 9881 mean CCV :: 20 hours streamed :: Mumei (en2)
>187233 watched hours :: 15734 mean CCV :: 12 hours streamed :: Shion (jp2)
>183338 watched hours :: 22495 mean CCV :: 8 hours streamed :: Suisei (jp0)
>176937 watched hours :: 9767 mean CCV :: 18 hours streamed :: Kanata (jp4)
>175346 watched hours :: 7099 mean CCV :: 25 hours streamed :: Noel (jp3)
>158686 watched hours :: 9836 mean CCV :: 16 hours streamed :: Amelia (en1)
>155913 watched hours :: 9383 mean CCV :: 17 hours streamed :: Kuronii (en2)
>153149 watched hours :: 4632 mean CCV :: 33 hours streamed :: Luna (jp4)
>143536 watched hours :: 7815 mean CCV :: 18 hours streamed :: Okayu (jpgamers)
>137639 watched hours :: 22140 mean CCV :: 6 hours streamed :: Aqua (jp2)
>135713 watched hours :: 6264 mean CCV :: 22 hours streamed :: Nene (jp5)
>127029 watched hours :: 4788 mean CCV :: 27 hours streamed :: Towa (jp4)
>125520 watched hours :: 6606 mean CCV :: 19 hours streamed :: Haachama (jp1)
>113850 watched hours :: 9461 mean CCV :: 12 hours streamed :: Ina (en1)
>108291 watched hours :: 10396 mean CCV :: 10 hours streamed :: Mio (jpgamers)
>103558 watched hours :: 14026 mean CCV :: 7 hours streamed :: Korone (jpgamers)
>90000 watched hours :: 3232 mean CCV :: 28 hours streamed :: Mel (jp1)
>84508 watched hours :: 6517 mean CCV :: 13 hours streamed :: Fauna (en2)
>80301 watched hours :: 5519 mean CCV :: 15 hours streamed :: Polka (jp5)
>72611 watched hours :: 5936 mean CCV :: 12 hours streamed :: Sana (en2)
>60144 watched hours :: 1807 mean CCV :: 33 hours streamed :: Ollie (id2)
>57682 watched hours :: 4364 mean CCV :: 13 hours streamed :: Sora (jp0)
>55145 watched hours :: 1843 mean CCV :: 30 hours streamed :: Roboco (jp0)
>45365 watched hours :: 1357 mean CCV :: 33 hours streamed :: Reine (id2)
>31189 watched hours :: 3498 mean CCV :: 9 hours streamed :: Choco (jp2)
>30950 watched hours :: 3458 mean CCV :: 9 hours streamed :: Matsuri (jp1)
>28051 watched hours :: 1096 mean CCV :: 26 hours streamed :: Risu (id1)
>24786 watched hours :: 513 mean CCV :: 48 hours streamed :: Aruran (stars1)
>21212 watched hours :: 949 mean CCV :: 22 hours streamed :: Leda (stars2)
>18284 watched hours :: 3217 mean CCV :: 6 hours streamed :: Aki (jp1)
>16083 watched hours :: 12532 mean CCV :: 1 hours streamed :: AZKi (jp0)
>14127 watched hours :: 781 mean CCV :: 18 hours streamed :: Roberu (stars2)
>13164 watched hours :: 567 mean CCV :: 23 hours streamed :: Temma (stars2)
>12960 watched hours :: 991 mean CCV :: 13 hours streamed :: Anya (id2)
>11068 watched hours :: 862 mean CCV :: 13 hours streamed :: Rikka (stars1)
>8419 watched hours :: 9020 mean CCV :: 1 hours streamed :: Hololive (corp0)
>7553 watched hours :: 619 mean CCV :: 12 hours streamed :: Oga (stars3)
>7016 watched hours :: 558 mean CCV :: 13 hours streamed :: Miyabi (stars1)
>6473 watched hours :: 694 mean CCV :: 9 hours streamed :: Izuru (stars1)
>4653 watched hours :: 552 mean CCV :: 8 hours streamed :: Shien (stars3)
>2639 watched hours :: 1028 mean CCV :: 3 hours streamed :: Moona (id1)

Also notice that both the mean and the hours streams are rounded down for presentation but the hours watched uses the unrounded numbers so the product won't line up

>>13071550
Not 'hours streamed' but number of streams

>>13071638
Pekora is so dominant her gap to Miko (268,808) can fit Flare or any of the streamers below her.

And Miko is so ahead of the rest of the pack her gap to Subaru (570390) can fit anyone below Watame or anyone below her

>>13071638
Damn Subaru is doing well.

>>13071638
I was wondering why my numbers and your didn't line up but I guess it's a rounding thing in how the time is calculated.
Also miko's twitch watch along seem to be missing, I guess since holostats don't track it, that's another 21k.

>>13072101
I remember back when that silly duck meme was making the rounds and lots of people were like, hurr durr where are the numbers? It was just one of many things that kept Subaru in the algorithm and improved her numbers over time. She's managed to climb from a mid range Holo to a top teir one over the course of a year. Mid tier for Holo, by any other standard she was already one of the most successful vtubers in the world.

https://vmoveie.com/home/hot_channels
The ranking is chuuba's the most daily viewed song. Kuzuha falls behind Mori, which means end of a life has more daily views than Vampire.

Since 4 Kings kind of were overtaken by others it's interesting seeing clear 4 Kings in HoloJp as
Pekora
Marin
Miko
Subaru
And streaming Vtubers as a whole
Gura
Pekora
Kuzuha
Marin
I'm not that knowledgeable in Vtubers who only make videos, can any of them compete in numbers with the above? Ai can stay as 2.98M Oyabun.

>>13071168
>going full circle
It's not as if we don't know that. The problem is that the people that came on the Internet on the social media platform era don't and they are the ones that need to be convinced to stop being retarded with their "lul anime avatar" and "hiding behind an anonymous account" like it's some gotcha automatic win in an argument.

>>13071272
>females
They're pretty fucking weird when it comes to making decisions that involve public perception, even if they make good business sense. That said, once they realize how much money chuubas can make pretending to be anime girls online without having to resort to blatant coombaiting, a good portion of the talented ones might bite.

5th Watame
>386968 watched hours :: 6718 mean CCV :: 58 hours streamed
7th Mori
>352099 watched hours :: 7741 mean CCV :: 45 hours streamed

Working extra to compensate the low CCV

>>13072820
Watame has always been a hard worker.. That and having long sc streams.

>>13072820
>to compensate
Nope. The extra hours **cause** the drop in the average with SC reading and talking streams.

>>13072609
enogu’s new song is doing surprisingly good considering they’re kind of obscure, Chima’s phony is still strong.

>>13072634
>4 Kings (Queen's) of Hololive.
>Pekora
>Marine
>Miko
>Subaru
I would replace Pekora with Gura simply because Pekora is a league on her own when it comes to ccv.

>>13068808
Very clever. Random brainfart: COVER hire a crypto guy and offers to make an NFT out of the drawing as additional paid service. Free for akasupas. Good or stupid idea?

>>13071638
>>383214 watched hours :: 9851 mean CCV :: 39 hours streamed :: IRyS (ensingers)
I am always pleasantly surprised about Irys's numbers. She just did a members poll of what she will stream. She had RE8. Megaman2, Undertale, Tetris 99 and Splatoon 2 as choices. Her members chose RE8 even though she hasn't played RE7 yet. I think these Irystocrats are numberfags. I wanted Splatoon 2 because she likes the game. https://youtu.be/LgzLICLnVEM

>>13072285
Is it in the same ballpark? Did it change the relative order?

>>13072958
Are there holos that are good at zatsu that their ccv can stable around 10k just by reading sc? If there is any, then that is some incredible hold on audience and can gain hours watch impressively.

>>13073418
Stupid. Why attach a product on something when people already send money for no reason?
Also: why create an “aftermarket” for something that today can only be acquired through them?

>>13073545

Not really a sc reading, but Subaru free talk/zatsu can go up to 17/18k.

>>13073545
I have never seen a holo hold a 10k audience for SC reading except for Pekora and Gura. Marine and Subaru though holds zatsu streams that is separate from their SC reading section.

>>13073545
Pekora
Miko most of the time hovers around 9-10k for sc

>>13073545
Marine , Pekora , Gura and Subaru are the 4 who can easily hold 10k+audience in simple zatsus or SC readings but the thing is their SC readings are always short compared to like Watame.

How do we save Kiara?

>>13073640
just now miko still has 10k reading SC
she always has 13k reading SC during minecraft streams

>>13071750
Pekora and Miko will probably always be #1 and #2 on this list unless one of them takes an extended break. Both of them stream very long hours to high CCV. The big difference between them is the weekends. Pekora tends to go ham during the weekends and bangs out 8 hour streams. Miko, on the other hand, usually takes it easy during the weekend with shorter streams like her cooking stream and her twitch watch alongs which I don't think are counted towards her hours watched or else she would be slightly higher.

>>13073545
>Are there holos that are good at zatsu that their ccv can stable around 10k just by reading sc
Pekora, Miko, Marine rarely drop below 10k even after the gaming part is over and Subaru actually gets a better number on her weekend zatsu than in her actual game streams.

There is a reason those are at the top

https://youtu.be/vvOg-Tm2M40
Predictions? Screenshots are not allowed this time too.

>>13074153
15-20k

>>13074153
eh, it might not even beat kuzuha

>>13073838
it's sad that miko stopped doing long weekends stream, she used to be the only one doing this and has high numbers
beginning this year she stopped and pekora basically replaced miko's position in the weekends
and now there is a huge gap between the two
even than her numbers are still high enough that no other members can catch up

>>13073418
anon, one of the reasons that method works so well is because the viewer the message is for can just screenshot it for themselves while showing off to all the other fans the special thing they got which helps nene get more people doing it.

>>13074153
Female in Manjisanji so I'm predicting about 3k

>>13074153
At least 30k. This has been pretty hyped and her album was well received.

>>13074326
It'll beat Kuzuha in being a good show at least.

>>13074355
Miko used to do long streams in the morning and then do long streams again later in the night. She was an absolute machine but its also part of why she got so sick in 2020 so its not surprising that she takes it easier these days. And by taking it easier she is still among the top when it comes to hours streams, haha.

To put into perspective just how crazy she was in 2020. She missed almost 4 months and still finished in the top 5 in Hololive when it comes to total hours streamed.

20 min into the stream
>S-Selen…

>>13074666
Ladies and gentlemen....the "ace" of Nijisanji English!!!!

>>13074666
It’s not a matter of overlaps either. They got smart and o it overlap two by two now.

>>13074666
selen will be the next to graduate
she's a huge numberfag and won't take kindly to her numbers falling off a cliff

>>13074153
>Screenshots are not allowed this time too
Japanese companies are so fucking retarded I swear "noo please don't give us free advertising"

>>13074740
There must be a “law of equivalent exchange” going on here, Nina getting a good peak.

>>13073516
in the same ballpark.
I have Pekora after today at 1444780 with ~53 hours.
Miko without todays stream at 1194290 with 46.3 hours (but that is including the twitch watch along).
I think it's some small dependency in the times that might cause it.

>>13073657
That's embarrassing

>>13073814
We don't.

>>13074666
slow and steady growth lmao

>>13074666
Why does she keep playing this shit?

>>13075187
I guess she wants to evolve from being a one trick apex pony?

I've noticed that when people talk about Hololive events, they call it an arc. Is it because Hololive feels like an SOL anime and that's why they call it an arc or is there something I'm missing?

>>13071323
veibae has played bf2042 for 22 hours just this weekend

>>13065827
They're Japanese Walmart

>>13073814
>sponsored by Atlus
>still ambassador for Tales of Arise
no need. $200k minimum secured

>>13075227
A one-off event like a concert isn't an arc. An arc is a trend over time, like everyone playing Ark or Minecraft a lot. And yes it's borrowed from anime terminology.

>>13075227
It basically becomes a major story line that might affect multiple Holos. It might just be that a specific game becomes prevalent or that exciting things happens. "Hey Moona" is the prime example in how it both changed how Pekora interacted with other Holos and how it changed the focus of the minecraft server for many Holos.

>>13075227
(1) backstory of Miko; hiatus, return live, to pioneering Sports Fes and now

>>13075227
Pretty much.
>Sora's genesis arc culminating with the X-mas miracle
>Suisei, Mori, Subaru and Miko who's careers could each be made into an entire 24 ep idol anime that would put LL and Im@s to shame
>Ark arc
>Permissions arc
>Gen 5 Arc
>Chink arc
>Pekomoona arc
>Kensetsu wars arc
>Coco's entire career which, despite the sad ending, had an amazing climax
And that's not accounting for all the other individual arcs and brief fillers that happened in between.
I've said this before but Hololive is the best anime of the season for me.

So everyone's numbers seem pretty up across the board. The 80ks for Marine and Lamy are higher than expected.

Is vtubing a winter hobby?

>>13075352
They sponsored her again this week

>>13075865
People are indoors more, so possibly.

>>13075865
Likely the past couple of weeks were the last chance between covid lockdown and cold weather for people to go out (and they did) and onw that its cold they're back indoors.

>>13075865
niji en's numbers are declining though

>>13075227
Due to the box pushing nature of their company Holos more often than not end up involved in cross channel cross stream activities that span a period of time, an “arc” of sorts.

Take the “Okayu Harem” arc: it even had a grand finale with his trial and imprisonment.
These girls are smart and they realize people want more than one off streams, they want a narrative.

>>13075655
I wonder what the current arc can be described as..

>>13075944
I think that this anime season being weak (as opposed to the summer and spring 2021, which were stacked as fuck) helped pushing lots of people right back to the loving arms of this “improvised interactive live action anime of sorts” hobby.

>>13075985
You can call if the “Summer of Minecraft” arc, with spanning from the aftermath of Coco graduation (and the summer festival) and ending with the Sports Festival, passing through the server merger, the EN2 addiction and the new ID server and the multiple relays and collabs

>>13075985
We're pretty much watching fillers right now. We just got done with the Sportsfest Arc/OVA. Next ones up, unless something blindsides us, will be ID and EN 3D, ID3, Gen 6, and Holofes prep.

>>13076182
Right now it’s the “idol” arc with 3D lives dominating the charts

>>13076182
I think Subaru coming in that sister Marine stream might lead to a side story with Oozora Police being a part of it. If it happens , insanely big numbers.

>>13076248
So a possible Oozora Police v Sister Marine arc?

>>13075655
They could do an anthology anime/manga like Railgun/Index with the stories of their vtubers/management dealing with yabs. Mori alone has a nice 2 season storyline. I'd watch a series about Craps Devil and her toiling in obscurity before becoming an idol, fucking up, and finally leaving her old life behind and succeeding through the power of friendship. Holos produce so much damn content it's not hard to find the best storylines/arcs and focus on those for alternative media.

>>13076248
Well, Oozora Police have arrested quite a few already. Time for a prison break?

>>13076326
Yeah Sister Marine escaping prison. Subaru then interviewing members to find her location and stuff which then finally leads to Oozora Police vs Sister Marine.

>>13076390
Yeah time for a prison break. Criminal uniform pekora , marine , suisei , lamy , miko. I can see Subaru doing something like this.

>>13076496
She's basically arrested all of gen 3 already. Not Flare I think, but the rest. Good for numbers.

>>13076560
with that arson, Flare could join them

>>13074814
more like anykara is retarded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpHzXSWg8Fw

>>13076182
Are they doing HoloFes this year? Doesn't Aqua have a solo concert this January? I think the closest that they can do is another Bloom which is like March 2022

>>13077230
HolosFes is a must

>>13077230
Don't think so, unless they want to squeeze it in during Decemeber and that'd be retarded

>>13074153
48-52k

>>13077050
My boss sure is great.

Is holoen dead?

this is making me seethe

>>13077230
they keep doing their idol reps so I think they will

>>13077390
>Ina
>Third of the series
Nah, it just normal stuff. Being RE8 makes it a buff, unlike the bug princess she played before. which did less than 5K

>>13077050
Pekora really is the number one and sankisei really is bestkisei

>>13077230
They're probably making sure they can hold it in a larger venue without social distancing. I imagine it will be delayed until feb/mar.

>>13077448
god I want to fuck Ina so hard