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How do we stop these "mommy" type vtubers with no personalities from infiltrating corporate spaces? There has to be vtubers and talents who have the same niche but not come off as huge cunts with no personality. Is Japan just awful at recognizing more "mature" English talent?

>> No.13034815

>Kronii
>mommy
You can start by watching stream followed up by killing yourself

>> No.13034836

>>13034750
>Kronii
>mommy type
OP, never post again.

>> No.13034839

Kill yourself

>> No.13034840

I'm sure you've only read about Nina's past life on this board because Nina is quite sweet and frequently dotes on the other NijiEN members, there's many things that can be said about her but definitely doesn't have a lack of personality

>> No.13034912

>>13034815
I already tried to watch her. She's a boring cunt. It also doesn't matter if she isn't a mommy herself because her fans have already delegated her to the mommy role, therefore she is seen as a mommy chuuba.

>> No.13034918

>>13034836
>>13034840
Imagine being so bad at bait that everyone instantly points out how retarded you are. I hope this thread dies quick.

>> No.13034943
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Suck mommy's dick.

>> No.13034976

>>13034912
No one does this, and it makes it obvious you don't watch her.

>> No.13034997

>>13034840
What’s her appeal? Is she as fake as vt says?

>> No.13035125

>>13034750
We need more "mommy type" chuubas to keep all the under 18 audience watching and not posting /here/.

>> No.13035142

>>13034997
She has more experience than 99% of English VTubers in the entertainment industry (she's done streaming for years, done interviews, amateur acting gigs etc) so she can talk nonstop and is familiar with how to treat an audience, if you can get past the mommy LARP (which she's toned down significantly) she's not a bad chuuba and it makes sense that she's the most popular in her wave.

>> No.13035146

Redpill me on Kronii. I never see anyone talk about her other than the fact she is hot and that's it.

>> No.13035187

>>13034750
Have you considered just watching someone else?
Or maybe just stop being such a whiny bitch?

>> No.13035241

>>13035125
I agree we need more mommies, but we need talents who actually have engaging personalities. Not these hags that have the personality of paint drying.

>> No.13035355

>>13035146
Deadpan, awkward, often self-depecating humor with a knack for getting into situations that generally lead to chaos. Often leads to memes being made about her, or her referencing memes herself. That's the shortest way to put it, don't let anyone on the board influence your opinion of her either way and try her out for yourself.

>> No.13035386

is there any quicker tell that someone is underage than "no personality"

>> No.13035445

>>13035241
Absolutely. But that goes with anything. More personalities, less Apex.

>> No.13035456

>>13035241
Anon, are you secretly looking for recommendations streams because you don't understand Kronii's and Nina's appeals? Why are you so autistic about it?

>> No.13035518

>>13035146
>Redpill
Anyway, Kronii is a shy girl that occasionally tries to act narcissistic for kayfabe, She immediately gets flustered in most situations breaking said kayfabe, She has a talent for voice work and will often times do voices for unvoiced characters in her game playthroughs, She is also a great singer and has a calm and cool demeanor so for people that don't like spastic random genki engery screamers (Ollie,Bae) she's great.

Minecraft addict (plays mostly offline which if you're an autist should probably not bother)

>> No.13035565

God I hate mommyfags. There are like 9001 flavors of hag and all you fuckers can think about are moms. Not every slightly mature woman is a fucking mommy you little shits.

>> No.13035598

>>13035355
>>13035518
Both of these are fairly apt descriptions, honestly.

>> No.13035697

>>13035598
Quite rare these days, especially when it comes to her too

>> No.13035837

>>13035598
>great singer
>apt description
She’s no Noel/Watson tier of SOUL but calling her a great singer is a stretch. She’s good at a limited subset of songs but otherwise gets carried by her great voice. As a singer, she’s inconsistent, averaging out at OK.

>> No.13036055

>>13034750
Anons just hope for them to be a certain way but they aren't.

>> No.13036123

>>13035146
>>13035518
Minecraft addiction is outdated now its Animal crossing Baybee! Kronii's great in collabs too, DBD and Devour are good collabs to check out.

>> No.13036221

>>13035837
>great singer is a stretch
>great voice
Anon…

>> No.13036256

>>13034840
Disregarding Nina's past lives and content, I can't stand her voice. It somehow doesn't fit my milf criteria, I feel like she sounds like an annoying grandmother with zero sex appeal.

>> No.13036414

>>13034912
>I know nothing about this person nor do I watch her but I'm categorize her into a roll anyways!
Kill yourself

>> No.13036431

>>13035146
Kronii is basically the big tiddy goth gf vtuber, minus the appearance.

>> No.13036574

>>13036431
>goth gf
Her personality or style isn't really goth at all unless you consider "depressed zoomer who's contemplated suicide" to be goth

>> No.13036579

>>13036431
I have never met a goth so tired of their life and I've met quite a few.

>> No.13036734

>>13036221
Great voice =/= Good singer, that’s only half of the equation. She’s still lacking in terms of pitch accuracy, rhythm at times and musicality. You could have the most singsongy ethereal voice to ever exist and still be a shit singer. Kronii knows full well about it too, I expect her to improve a lot but to call her good at this point in time is a stretch. Go listen to her karaoke streams with a critical ear.

>> No.13036748

>>13035355
>Deadpan, awkward
It's amazing how often retards confuse this with "no personality." As if personality is a tone of voice.

>> No.13037141

>>13036748
I really think that's the case, people here are so autistic that they can't assess a personality beyond the absolute most surface-deep attributes, like tone of voice. If you want an example of a holo who doesn't have a personality, look at Sora, not Kronii.

>> No.13037230

>>13036748
I blame fags thinking the "youtuber" voice i.e faked hype or being over energetic is standard
It causes retards to complain about any chuuba who speaks in a relaxed or clam manner to labeled with "no personality" or "sounding bored/disinteresting"

>> No.13037288

>>13034750
1. Kronii is depressed and boring, with posts of dead air. Kronii doesn’t play a mommy role.
2. Nina is upbeat and entertaining, and talks a lot. Nina plays a mommy role.

>> No.13037353

>>13037141
Yes. Yes. Yes. Let's compare Kronii to Sora. Jesus fuck. Let's make a favor to this mediocre new Hololive chuuba!

>> No.13037464
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Watch Nina’s Darkest Dungeon streams. She is not what you would expect.

>> No.13037572

>>13034750
Dont compare kronii with that bitch, you insufferable faggot

>> No.13037636

>>13034997
Has genuine experience in the entertainment industry so she can actually talk, she has damn good game taste to boot and is actually good at the stuff she's familiar with.

She's nijiEN's only game pretty much, good endurance streamer to and is constantly shilling and doting over her pretty much all of NijiEN.

>> No.13037697

>>13037572
What this guy said, Nina is miles above Kronii, don't drag her down like that.

>> No.13037849

>>13037697
>Nina is miles above Kronii
It’s weird because she actually is. I watched Kronii and got very bored, but Nina has tons of energy while doing 5+ hour streams.

>> No.13037878

>>13034912
I see Masaru as an onahole but that doesn't mean he is one in reality

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13037921

Do Holo fans still think of Nina as the final boss?

>> No.13037929
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by supporting the good ones. (yura is ultimate gfe), try out namiji and neena from PK

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>>13037933
don't bully torasomos

>> No.13038037

>>13037984
I'm sorry. It's sarcasm based on that one faggots retarded comment.

>> No.13038044

>>13037921
I like her but tell her to keep Coco/Kson's name out of her fucking mouth.

>> No.13038060

>>13034750
The one on the left somehow manages to have a healthier attitutude towards both streaming and her audience.

>> No.13038095
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>>13038044
Was that a final boss moment?

>> No.13038216

the final boss moment is when she is eternally sealed because there was a large enough shitstorm that alarmed new potential fans to know her PL.

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>>13038216
>a large enough shitstorm
Hopefully based Nina brings up a shitstorm

>> No.13038335

>>13034997
She's autistic about minmaxing, and spergs about her favorite games she's also promising STALKER streams, Pathologic 2 streams, Metro and maybe FNV
Desu I came for the mommy shtick but stayed for the good taste, her darkest dungeon streams and dungeon keeper 2 stream are fantastic

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>>13038335
>Nina’s dungeon keeper 2 stream
That was very sadist

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>>13034997
If she's a sleeper agent she's one of the best, top tier KGB training on display each stream

>> No.13038485

>>13037849
Because Nina is at the very least semi professional and definitely experienced, IE what you see is an act she puts on to appeal to a niche. If you like that then good for you but I'm watching Hololive cause most of the time they're themselves with whatever their backstory is awkwardly mixed in

>> No.13038544

>>13038463
I still don't get the mushroom thing.
She started talking about it and anons revealed that in Russia there's mushroom collectors, just quiet dudes that roam forests looking for mushrooms, one of them even help catch the most notorious serial killer Russia has ever had.

>> No.13038661

>>13038485
I used to only watch Hololive, but they couldn’t be themselves because of management or some other reason. It always felt like they were walking on eggshells, and I just needed a break from it. I don’t hate Hololive, but I also wanted something better from gen 2. Only one I really like is Gura. Sana was okay, but wasn’t really enough.

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>>13038544
>I still don't get the mushroom thing

>> No.13038770

>>13038748
BUT WHY DO THEY COLLECT THEM
Is there nothing else to do over there? I mean I get people need hobbies...

Do they eat them?

>> No.13038802

>>13038770
Mushrooms taste delicious anon especially those freshly picked

>> No.13038860

>Kronii
>depressed edgy doomer
>Mommy type
lol

>> No.13038890

>>13037849
Nina's not way above Kronii, they're just entirely different styles of streaming. Take your pick and don't be a faggot about it.

>> No.13038891

>>13034750
>kronii
>mommy
even clipfags won't stoop this low, only something a nijinigger can achieve

>> No.13038979

>>13035837
That's an understandable take, I'm not going to argue with this.

>> No.13039027

>>13038891
OP was familiar enough to know Nina is a mommy-type, but doesn’t seem to watch Kronii. So he probably is from Niji, but hates Nina.

>> No.13039045

>>13037353
Why are you even seething? You've added nothing to the conversation and sound like a condescending faggot. Well done.

>> No.13039073

>>13037230
Which made the times where Kronii went fake energetic pretty funny.

>> No.13039172

How is this at all similar to Kronii:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlKnic8wGA8&t=3610s

>> No.13039203

>>13038770
It's like fishing or hunting, lol. You eat what you get and you do it mostly for the thrill of it. Do people not gather mushrooms in your country?

>> No.13039234

>>13039045
If I sound condescending, it's because I am. It is the only rational response to the post I responded.

>> No.13039364

>>13038770
It's a northern thing, you wouldn't get it.

>> No.13039407

>>13036574
>He doesn't know
Her roommate anon

>> No.13039424

>>13039234
The bigger point was adding nothing to the discussion. A rational person wouldn't jump into a conversation to say fuck all, anon.

>> No.13039500

>>13039424
A rational person would not shit talk Sora. Fuck off whatever the kronii fans are called. Scumshit or whatever.

>> No.13039528

>>13035355
>>13036748
Awkward isn’t humor, it’s an inability to have humor because you’re too serious or nervous. Kronii is much too serious, and was even offended by names like HuntTheImpaired. I get it though, you have to make do with what is given you, and so you mistake dead air and the like, for something intentional, when she just doesn’t know wtf to say. She also seems genuinely depressed.

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>>13034750
We need more "natural" hags types like Amiya. She's obviously older than the rest in her gen with her boomer tastes but she doesn't ham it up, she just talks naturally. Plus she's a cute lolibaba.

>> No.13039545

>>13039500
So say that properly and I'd agree, you retard. You made it sound like you were shit talking Sora too.

>> No.13039584

>>13034750
>>13034912
>How do we stop these "mommy" type vtubers with no personalities from infiltrating corporate spaces?
>doesn't matter if she isn't a mommy herself because her fans have already delegated her to the mommy role
/thread morron owned himself himself

>> No.13039610

>>13039528
There are literally entire shows made with awkward interactions as a source of humor, anon. I get where you're coming from, and you aren't entirely wrong but that was a weird way to frame your argument.

>> No.13039643

>>13034912
>her fans have already delegated her to the mommy role
that's her fans problem, then

>> No.13039654

>>13038770
...Wait, what do you eat if you don't eat mushrooms? And of course you're going to pick your own mushrooms (from the neighbour's forest) instead of paying someone for it.

>> No.13039663

>>13035518
>Minecraft addict (plays mostly offline which if you're an autist should probably not bother)
She hasn't touched the game in literal weeks

>> No.13039685

>>13034750
Nina is a great vtuber because she's still triggering the fuck out of /pol/ and redditors and they failed to get her canceled.

>> No.13039695

>>13039545
Are you really that stupid that when everyone can read the whole conversation, you still try to say you weren't the fag that was wrong. Just apologise and move on.

>> No.13039717

>>13038661
It depends on who you watch, Kronii, Kiara and Calli are the most honest and entertaining members. Gura sticks to memes, Fauna won't drop her fake soothing voice, Mumei's alright but not my favorite, and the rest are kinda mixed, I'll like them in collabs but solo I can't watch them

>> No.13039769

>>13039695
I was wrong I'll admit it, but you didn't word it well either. We're both at fault.

>> No.13039800

>>13039685
Wait why reddit hates her? Shouldn't she be loved by them?

>> No.13039824

>>13039769
No. You are at fault. Your lack of understanding is not my fault. Apologise and move on.

>> No.13039845

>>13039610
Well I view the awkwardness she has with human interaction as unintentional, or genuine awkwardness, and assume she has some psychological issues and possibly is a depressed person from some of what I had seen. I feel for her if that is the case, but I don’t think it makes for good VTubing. In my opinion, if you only watch Hololive you make do with what is given you.

>> No.13039899

>>13039717
I watched all of them. They all suck except for Gura.

>> No.13039933

>Kronii's roommate and Nina's roommate will never do an offline collab
>It won't turn into Nina's milf powers overwhelming Kronii
>Her loud gwaks won't suddenly turn in to gentle moans (like the Hoshikawa/Gundou stream) as she slowly gives in
>NijiEN/HoloEn forever a distant dream
An anon can dream i suppose

>> No.13039954

>>13039824
Fuck off, faggot. I met you halfway I'm not gonna get down on my knees and beg for your forgiveness.
>Let's make a favor to this mediocre new Hololive chuuba!
This reads like Sora is worse than Kronii and comparing her to Kronii is doing her a favor. I'm your only response so get out of here with your "everyone" horseshit.

>> No.13039985

>>13039800
Redditor is just a generic boogeyman, just pretend he said "people I don't like".

>> No.13040018

>>13039845
>if you only watch Hololive you make do with what is given you
Ok, but you're assuming that with no context as to who you're talking to. I watch plenty of Niji streamers and indies, I watch Kronii and other Hololivers too. Generalizations help no one.

>> No.13040143

>>13040018
I meant that in general, because it used to be my own experience. I’m using my experience to see if others will relate, but not everyone will. I was a Holo only person unsatisfied with my choices.

>> No.13040205

>>13040143
Fair enough, but it's strange to make it sound like it's the typical experience to me. If it's your only frame of reference, I suppose it makes sense though.

>> No.13040213

>People hate the loli or "don't say it's loli (Gura)" trope
>Hate the ditzy airhead trope
>Now hate the mommy trope
Soon we're just gonna have agitated vtubers begrudingly doing the deredere route

>> No.13040262

>>13034815
fpbp

>> No.13040269

>>13039933
Now i imagining Coco x Kronii collab...

>> No.13040280

>>13034750
Reminder that Nina is right;
>People will always give vtubers a lot more leeway in what they say and do because people will naturally perceive them as fictional characters and not actual people.
>Racism is a societal problem, and Black Lives Matter making it morally correct to support it.
>She enjoys drinking the tears conservative who are salty over those two truths.
All Nina's done is prove the hypocrisy of the right wing where they cry about cancel culture, but then tried to do everything to get Nina cancelled for speaking the truth against their bigotry and lies. And she didn't even have to do anything, this was a comically pathetic own goal by the right.

Also she is the most successful member of Ethyria and just hit 100k subs. The Right Wing would have to follow what their counterparts in China did to Coco and go full scorched earth if they wanted to get rid of Nina now. And Nijisanji isn't as limp dicked as Cover.

>>13038044
>Giving free advertisement to Coco's new job
>Bad
Why are Kson fans so ungrateful?

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>>13040280
>She enjoys drinking the tears
I don’t remember anything about Nina drinking tears. Maybe licking them?

>> No.13040431

>>13040280
>Why are Kson fans so ungrateful?
Because Coco left with the promise of shaking the very foundations of the Vtuber world, and making her own thing with hookers and blackjack, and how she was artistically stifled by manager-sans

Turns out she just went back to her old acct, fucked around for a while, and mostly does the same shit

But it can't be Kson's fault, no. There must be something else going on here, it must be them there anti's and chinks

>> No.13040435

>>13034750
Fucking hilarious watching /pol/tards like this get frightened of deep-voiced women being popular because it reminds them of trans people. And then saying "uh buh how do we stop it" like you have the power to do anything to stop someone's popularity. Eat shit, my good man. Eat shit.

>> No.13040483

>>13034997
She's so fucking autistic with her min maxing that she spends an entire hour theorycrafting and reading the game's patch notes on stream while her Russian chat spams her to just play the game.

>> No.13040564

>>13034750
>kronii
>mommy
Her roo.ate is some menhera bitch who says she's non binary. I doubt she wants to be a mother.

>> No.13040583

>>13040431
>Because Coco left with the promise of shaking the very foundations of the Vtuber world, and making her own thing with hookers and blackjack
None of this is true, anon. This is what you wanted from her, not what she said she was doing. As for management? I'm sure they were occasionally pains to deal with, so even it the change didn't amount to much I'm personally for it. No one likes dealing with shitty managers.

>> No.13040602

>>13040564
i want to turn kronii into a doting korean mom!

>> No.13040635

>>13040602
Based.

>> No.13040645

>>13040483
Wait she sounds based wtf

>> No.13040646

>>13040431
This is a good explanation. Seriously.

>> No.13040674

>>13040646
But also wrong one.

>> No.13040722

>>13040674
What's the right one?

>> No.13040784

>>13040722
Coco never talked about "shaking the world" or creativity in the context of quiting Hololive.

>> No.13040792

>>13039800
Because the reddit population on 4chan is all /pol/ cancer and were the ones behind the smear and doxing campaign against her.

>> No.13040825

>>13040645
Nina even did a 10 hour Darkest Dungeon 2 stream on the game’s launch day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T3dBfdljbo

>> No.13040827

>>13040792
>smear

>> No.13040830

>>13040784
OK, but what's the right answer?

>> No.13040905

>>13040827
>BLM is bad
Yes, smear.

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>> No.13040949

>>13040583
No anon, this is all on the money, if not a bit exagerated
SHE wanted to make HoloEN, and ES, and EU, and KR because she had a vision apaprenty
SHE wanted to be able to collab with whomever, whenever, however. Fuck the Managers who considered Vshojo a dangerous option
SHE wanted to rework the very structure of Hololive so the girls felt like they were among friends and not coworkers
And if she had it her way, why there'd a razzle and dazzle in her step as she made the single best Vtuber Organization the likes of which no one has ever seen!

Well as we wind down 2021, her biggest accomplishment was disappointing everyone with a Melody collab in fucking Chaturbate, the only unique thing she has done so far. So in reality, her managers, barring the ones who let the chinks be mods for her chat, were actually helping her all along and she was too ambitious to understand the scope of her idea was far greater than her capabilities

>> No.13041232

This insane need to paint CocoSon as some revolutionary renaissance woman to spite chinks is fucking stupid.

>> No.13041296

>with no personality
You mean just Kronii? Nina has had more personality in one stream than Kronii has had in 2 months.

>> No.13041343

>>13034750
Don't compare shitty titty kronii to Nina.

>> No.13041418

>>13041296
It’s possible the OP doesn’t watch either, because they are complete opposites. Extreme opposites.

>> No.13041795

>>13041296
Nijibitter!

>> No.13041800

I'll respect Nina for the fact she manged to cuck EN Council out of one of their clippers.
Gotta be awkward when you name your account after a Hololive member but clip exclusively for Nina.

>> No.13041873

How come Nijifags have to constantly make bait threads with Hololive in order to shill their girls?

>> No.13041921

>>13040949
> make her cried on stream and Kanata came to rescue
> Help her

Are you serious or just shitpost?

>> No.13042083

>>13041418
It's almost like OP is shitposting against the two most successful members of their respective groups...

>> No.13042152

>>13042083
/thread

>> No.13042153

>>13040949
It was pretty obvious for anyone who knew her that hololive's management - as incompetent as it is - was keeping her in line until the bugmen attacked and she became a liability.
Her entire shtick before hololive was being a half-naked cosplay girl pretending to be the dumb foreigner for the JP audience and then doing shitty talk/makeup coomer bait streams for EN audiences with yellow fever.
So don't expect big things from her, she won't do anything other than what you'd expect from any other random egirl and/or vshoujo member.

>> No.13042716

>>13034750
I watch Nina because she has an absolutely based taste in video games, I never thought I'd see a VTuber play Dungeon Keeper 2. She also loves all of NijiEN dearly, she had great moments in the Crab Game collab. Saying she has "no personality" isn't at all fair, in my opinion.

>> No.13042820

>>13042153
> He really doesn't know

>> No.13043020

This is the fastest I've seen an OP fuckup his own thread.

>> No.13043085

>not a single REAL HAG western vtuber that isnt shit
It hurts so bad

>> No.13045225

I wonder who are all of these anons populating this echo chamber. Tourists from generals? Discord raiders? Any other thread would never get any level of explanation or interaction in general over these two, dumbass OP bait or not
read over this entire thread to see if either of them changed from debut, still not convinced but I don't even care, you fucks can stay in your corners and don't bother anyone else screaming about your chuuba

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