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>>12804371
ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

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Pekkers literally throw for marine.

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ILLEGAL DOUBLE STREAM FUNNELING!

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8k waiting room

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>>12804371
How Cover got their success.

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Pekora is complicit in illegal view funneling, throwing the second she gets 30k again right before Marine's stream

[Anonymous No.]

Another 30k…

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Peko made a self funnel and then delivered her event horizon right into Marine’s stargate

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>>12804433
How is she so powerful?

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nah, i don't think this one is gonna slip

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KUZUHA BIRTHDAHY WILL NOT SLIP!!!

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>>12804433
I can’t believe Pekora would cheat like this.

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I don't think Marine can beat Kuzuha.

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>>12804433
I kneel peko

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>>12804400
One day all of top 10 will only be Pekora streams. I believe!

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It feels like pekora can get 30k anytime she wants. It looks so easy but its not. She only have 1 stream this month that is below 30k insane start for numbers bunny.

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>>12804512
actually crazy

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>>12804512
She might actually get 30k Median and Average at the end of the month.
She got a lot of allowance

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55,952 is the target to beat, will be very tough but not impossible

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If Splatoon Collab and Okayu ends before Marine gets to the climax part. Can she get 57k?

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Marine won't take it I think, Splatoon collab will take a while to finish still.

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>>12804457
The winner is not "Kuzuha Channel" though

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>>12804541
Sorry mate, based on opening numbers this will get to 45k tops.
Today there will be no slipping

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It's actually terrifying how Pekora made getting 2 consecutive 30k look easy like she was just taking a dump.

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yeah marine's not gonna take it, peckers was at 25k at 10 minutes
marine's still at 18k

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Holobros prepare your knees!
Your pirate will not beat Kuzuha with that weak-ass start

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>>12804598
Truth be told Pekora *opens* with 18k at the end of the “ninjin ninjin”

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I think Pekora's funnel went straight to the splatoon games.

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>>12804593
Someone needs to study peko way.

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>>12804611
finally a win for you nijifriend, treasure it

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40k possible?

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>>12804562
Oh that would be hilariously cruel if they finished just before her announcement...

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>>12804647
Yes.

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~30k watching the Splatoon collab, a lot depends on when that ends

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Marine is playing way too fast that she ill miss the funnel. Pekora stalled like hell in her gameplay just to catch the Miko funnel.

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>>12804682
She's got announcement shit too, so...

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>>12804682
She’ll likely retain the audience for the second ending due to the announcement at the end, assuming there will be one.

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Marine is going way too fast lmao
RIP Numbers

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>>12804433
This makes it look like Pekora is statpadding her median lmao.

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marine should have played this game yesterday...

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>>12804698
Does she? Didn't Subuaru have Announcement labelled in holodex and it was just the Korone game? Probably the same shit here.

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>in today’s episode of /vt/sp/

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>>12804746
Well, she's fucking here average.. Short streams are shit unless you're only counting peaks.

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>>12804752
She said she has something to announce but it's probably that PC deal or something

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>>12804512
That's crazy, even Gura in late 2020 before the view change didn't always hit 30k. Especially since Pekora also went through her boom and recline period and then came back up for no real particularly special reason. She hasn't really done anything event worthy in a while she's just steadily gotten stronger.

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IT'S OVER HOLOBROS!
PIRATE IS STILL ON 29K!!!

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>>12804786
>and then came back up for no real particularly special reason
For reasons I cannot really discern it looks like the floor rose up for all of the mid tier and high tier.
These Mio numbers are off the charts even for a meme game.

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>>12804786
Bunny is reliable towards her audience, that's the main secret I would say.

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>>12804786
Pekora's current potential is kinda terrifying considering how she can pull these numbers without resorting to hard novelty variety or EOP/Tourist bait. A proper weekly/biweekly novelty stream that won't hurt her audience could catapult her into higher numbers.

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One of my favorite covers just hit 9M

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>>12804919

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I think Marine will finish the game before the collab ends

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>>12804786
Check again :
Gura under 30K before YT culling)Dec 4 2020) :
Sep 2020 : 2
1 collab 1 SC reading
Oct 2020 : 4
2 collab
Nov 2020 : 1
1 collab
Dec 2020 1-4 : 0

[Anonymous No.]

Well 3 niji win this week. Wedneday, Saturday and Sunday.

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people forget that miko was holding 30k overlapping pekora during her run too, when miko ended pekora bursted to 57k

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>>12804866
Yeah. Just at a glance everyone's floor in the main branch increased. Other notable increases being Luna, Shuba getting promoted from mid-tier to possible high tier, and Mel. Anyone wanna give out guesses as to what caused this?

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>>12804968
The fuck is happening in the weekends. Isn't Tomorrow Fumi's 3D?

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>>12804951
No wonder Pekora hates Marine. Notice how they don't collab anymore. Pirate just wasted the effort of rabbit to win the day.

niji won the day

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>>12804995
Saturday I think. Valz or probably King on Sunday.

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>>12804961
What were the two non-collab non-SC under 30k? Watchalongs? I feel like she had some weak streams around that time, like that FNAF ripoff with monkeys, the muscle man game ect.

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>>12804986
yeah but Pekora was smart enough to notice that and stalled her gameplay. Marine is just speeding through the game and screaming.

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>>12805023
>barks

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>>12805027
>King on Sunday.
Idk bro, Pekora got 26k with her 12093812038120938th Judgement stream last time somehow, might not be an easy win.

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Too fast Marine..You're going too fast..

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>>12805023
Lol they will most likely collab next week with botan and towa. They will also have another collab before their concert if im not mistaken.

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Oh well time to kneel to the King.

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Unusually weak showings from Marine and Kuzuha today. At least Pekora didn't disappoint.

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>>12804991
Might have something to do with the on and off nature of Japanese covid regulations and the utter destruction of the Niji female audience.

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>>12805057
Its on niji channel. Kneel on nijisanji channel instead anon.

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>>12805046
Theres valz relay.

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The splatoon collab just ended

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>>12805085
I kneel . . To the true King.Pls niji just give him mickey mouse gold

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>>12805027
At this point. Anything that doesn't get at least 45k is subject to slippage as long as Pekora is streaming. If Gura is the ruler of Subs and VODs, Pekora is Queen of CCV.

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>>12805109
Let’s see how illegal the funnel will be

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>>12805118
How often does Pekora *not* stream? I can barely remember her taking any days off.

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>>12805149
When Pekora had a mental breakdown and decided to take a break she didn't stream for... 3 days...

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>>12805149
she had like a day and half break 2 weeks ago.

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>>12805142
Shien, Risu, Temma, and Aruran ending soon, should flood her channel with viewers and put her over the top.

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Kinda disappointed with Marine's Numbers.

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40k and rising

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>>12805118
Did Gura exhibit the same pattern before the YT cull? Not top tier CCV but top tier VOD. If she did then the theory that she has a lot of VOD watchers is true, if not then whatever else reason I guess.

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>>12805142
I-ILLEGAL

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>Pekora is Queen of CCV
>Gura is Queen of Subs and VODs
>Rushia is Queen of SCs
>Suisei is Queen of Music videos
And Marine is what?

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VOD views by itself is such a shit metric, no one watches Mori yet you'd think she's one of the most popular holos if you go by VOD views.

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>>12805033
Sep 2020 :
SC reading : 28747
SURGEON SIMULATOR 2 (w/ Ame Ina, 3 pov) : 23,277
Oct 2020 :
FALL GUYS : 28544
DBD(w/ Ina, 2 pov) : 27,557
PACIFY : 29,681
BIPED(w/ Ame, 2 pov) : 27,040
DONT STARVE TOGETHER (w/ Myth 5 pov) : 27,644

Good old days

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>>12805210
is that cope I hear?

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>>12805205
No, her VoDs are lower than Pekora.

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>>12805210
Well, gotta factor in music because holostats doesn't count it separately from normal stream VODs or shorts.

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>>12805169
Which number is greater in a calendar year, Ayame streams (including non-POV participation to make it fairer) or Pekora break days?

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>>12805220
Yeah bro I'm sure Mori is more popular than Gura.

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>>12805213
DONT STARVE TOGETHER is Nov 2020, my typo

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>>12805208
Queen of R-18

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>>12805224
Overall - yes. Pound for pound - Gura has more.

t.Nousagi

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>>12805027
>Sunday
What is happening? And explain the other streams.

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>>12805210
Her songs are her primary content anon and those endurance with guests are also helping

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>>12805210
Vtubers aiming for idol route and streamer route do play a different game if you think about it.

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>>12805233
Finally the REAL questions are being asked.

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>>12805208
queen of shorts

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>>12805210
Her music is popular though? So does Suisei.

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>>12805210
I really wonder how disapointed Cover must have felt, opening a new branch, hoping they could win but in the end, it was only a fa. Now, barely anyone watches Hololive anymore as they are moving onto Vshojo instead.

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>>12805210
>no one watches Mori yet you'd think she's one of the most popular holos if you go by VOD views.
Except she is?
2nd/3rd in subs and the most successful Holomem in music.
Only Gura really compares, but Mori's output is unmatched.
Suisei is the best in HoloJP, but her virality is no match for Mori.

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>>12805149
She currently have a streak of 20 days.

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>>12805205
Gura has always got absurdly high VOD totals, she already had multiple VODs over 1M before 2020 even ended. I don't think the view change effected VOD totals in any way, just the number that gets displayed during the stream.

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>>12805027
There's only fumi and kuzuha birthday for the win this week.

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>>12805239
sounds like cope to me

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>>12805224
When people mention VOD in these thread it has been about average per stream, not total, else just go spam meme and short clips to farm views, doesnt always equate the same pattern.

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>>12805251
You kidding right? Most Pekora's VoDs are around 400k, Gura is struggling to get her VoDs above 350k now.

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>>12805279
Subs are literally the most worthless of numbers. Mori is THE queen of deadsubs. For youtube 1 viewer watching for 1 hour is much better than 10 viewers watching for 3 minutes.
It's literally why they've been optimizing for watch time for YEARS now.

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>>12805310
i hate niggers like you so much

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>JP vs EN timeloop again
guys Marine hasn't even reach 45k yet wtf.

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>>12805213
Yeah that Fall Guys stream was garbage, she got frustrated at the controls and other players and only played for 1.5 hours, and never touched the game again. Still it has 687k views today.

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>>12805251
You cannot physically keep up with Pekora's VODs, it's very easy to go back and watch Gura's archives though.

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>>12805310
Why lie?
These are some short fucking streams too.

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>>12805338
Pre-emptive coping.

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Enjoy your numbers, anons. I'm gonna watch my airhead dark-skinned space boobs sing return and sing in 15 minutes.

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>>12805310
Do you even read the first of the chain, anon mentioned BEFORE the YT cull.

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>>12805332
NIJICOPE LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>percentages
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing
>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing
>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots
>Hal is honorary Niji
>Kson is honorary Niji
>Ui is honorary Niji
>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Sponsorships are retarded
>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Koshien is not an event
>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>Pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Hololive invented unicorns
>Watchalongs are POVs
>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>Each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers because Selen flopped her first Twitch stream and Selen never flops
>Evil God Korone is an event game.
>Patra is honorary niji.
>Muh SC to growth ratio
>Dead subs
>VOD views don't count

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>stuck at 40k

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>>12805364
see ya tomorrow anon.

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>>12805335
>Trying to show me up, proving I'm right anyway lol

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>>12805310
Stick to real numbers nutsacki, peko is already numbers queen, you don't have to blast your insecurity for all to see

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>>12805310
>only 4 VODs under 350k for Gura within the last month

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>>12805310
Not really

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>>12805371
And enjoy the death of HoloEN

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>>12805393
Are all nijiniggers like this or is it just the one last samurai?

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>>12805210
>no one watches Mori
her total music views is 91M+ so her total VOD if we didn't include her music is 100M+, still in the top of EN and JP. At least try to prove your claims retardchama

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>>12805332
>Subs are literally the most worthless of numbers.
>casually gets 1 mil views for a original song in 3 days
Uh huh.

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>>12805379
yeah its over, even if she reach to second ending the spike will reach 45k at most. You can hear Pekora throwing a brick in her window now.

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>>12805210
her music has around 121.5m views
>>12546751

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>>12804457
I own and paid this image. You can't use it without paying $10 to me. Now I can't use it...

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>>12805412
Jesus, Pekora is both CCV and VOD Queen.

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>>12805412
>Pekora has 12 VODs above 350k in the past 2 weeks
What in the FUCK, who has time to watch these?

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>>12805492
all me

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>>12805492
They watch them live... you know her CCV is nuts right?

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>>12805467
Damn, is this the new Bronze "King" meme Im seeing, to be a King or Queen you have to be top of something.

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>>12805412
God, that looks like a mogging for Gura. Pekora is literally taking all EOPs for herself as well.

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>>12805423
Someone should paste the Kuzuha Vampire 1mil post here

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>>12805492
Just follow live streams, and you don't have to watch it again . Basically the most JOP pattern.

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>>12805529
Well, Pekora rightfully deserves that title since she tops both CCV and VOD views anyway.

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>>12805393
>"stuggling to break 350k"
can you fucking READ you moron? 18 streams only 3 were below, about 5 were nearly double that, and the rest were hovering around 450k.
this is a numbers thread, not just a "I make up bullshit that is factually disprovable" thread

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>>12805538
Can't post 2M/3M milestone cause they are even slower.

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>>12805566
>VOD views
No

[Anonymous No.]

Cover must be rather disappointed. They hope HoloEN could bring something in, instead they brought nothing to the table. What a waste of resources that could be used to invest in HoloJP.

[Anonymous No.]

Chumbuds are coping but Pekora is objectively mogging Gura in everything except subs.

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>>12805568
You're replying to bait.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is JP vs EN going on rn? I thought Niji is definitely winning the day?

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>>12805568
Quit when you're ahead, anon.
He's already samefagging off of cooldown so don't derail the thread.

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>>12805566
Are you blind? She very clearly doesn't top VOD, not that it matters since being this close and having top CCV still means she gets more eyeballs on her

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NIJICOPE LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>percentages
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing
>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing
>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots
>Hal is honorary Niji
>Kson is honorary Niji
>Ui is honorary Niji
>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Sponsorships are retarded
>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Koshien is not an event
>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>Pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Hololive invented unicorns
>Watchalongs are POVs
>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>Each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers because Selen flopped her first Twitch stream and Selen never flops
>Evil God Korone is an event game.
>Patra is honorary niji.
>muh subs to growth ratio

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>>12805027
>Valz winning anything
They're having drama so no.

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>>12805593
Yeah, HoloCN> HoloJP
social credit +1000000

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>>12805568
Stop replying to bait.

[Anonymous No.]

alright Marine's stream seems a throw and the thread is now on timeloop. See you tomorrow everyone.

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>>12805636
You already said this 3 times.

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>>12805532
Well, Gura could be top if she had the drive for it.. For October Gura had 21 streams, Pekora 35. And lets not talk about this month.

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>>12805619
She does top the VOD views though, not average VOD views but that's a different thing.

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>>12805593
Why do people act like holo en is a dissapoment when there all top female streamers in the west.

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>>12805645
IM LOOPING

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>>12804995
> Isn't Tomorrow Fumi's 3D?
Jeez these are worse than NijiEN's numbers.
Could be lower than Cammy's 39k debut.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwrjITPwG4q71HzihV2C7Nw

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>>12805027
>>12804968
Can someone please tell me if these are real power streams??
I hope not because thread will be unbearable for days if Niji does win 3 consecutive times

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>>12805656
>Why do people act like holo en is a dissapoment when there all top female streamers in the west.
Holo EN could've been #1 in terms of potential.

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>>12805196
she doesnt enjoy streaming that much anymore
hard to get extraordinary numbers in such circumstances.
44k at the moment aint bad though but she plays the game too quickly

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[Anonymous No.]

JP vs. EN timeloop again, kek
so did any stream defeat Nijikeks b-day celebration?

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>>12805676
It's a pretty sad time when a 3d debut is no longer a guaranteed no.1

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>>12805648
There’s a lot of basic stuff Gura could do to improve her numbers but she just… doesn’t seem to care. At this point it’s not going to change that’s just who she is. Actually all the myth girls are stubborn about things in their own way. As much as Kiara is memed as a nunberfag she knows she tanks her numbers with 10 part JRPGs for example but is incredibly resistant to change.

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>>12805656
Why are you taking shitposts seriously?

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>>12805718
No but Marine is at 45k right now.

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>>12805685
Are you unironically posting this stupid chart in the numbers thread? Who are you, Pekora?

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>>12805655
did you even look at the image? gura is literally 100k-200k above her in all but like 3 streams.
what the fuck is with people today? do they not know 300k is lower than 400k?

[Anonymous No.]

It's that easy to bait people into mindless arguing with trolls huh. Guess it takes experience to recognize and ignore them, especially when they keep reusing the same shit every time.

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>>12805718
Nijisanji Main channel won the day though, 55k.

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>>12805656
Because they are failures? Is that too hard to understand for your pea brain?

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>>12805685
the only en who has the streaming hours necessary to be top is kiara. the rest simply don't stream enough on a regular basis

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>>12805750
The only relevant metric for STREAMERS is watch time.

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>>12805753
He thinks we're discussing total VOD views. So pekora comes out on top since she streams more and has more VODs

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>>12805718
marine is 10k off

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https://twitter.com/kuzuha_staff/status/1458384935346008068?cxt=HHwWiMCjkebXnL0oAAAA
>Kuzuha mini-album March 2022
Damn Suzy had a good run, but her record for highest selling solo vtuber album is probably going to be smashed by this.
Locally, at least.

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>>12805759
This is the numbers thread, of course people get rilled up when you post obvious falsehoods in the numbers thread

>>12805820
No he doesn't he just throws cheap bait all over the place and acts retarded when called out

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>>12805622
drama aside their numbers are weak so not at all noteworthy in the context of this thread

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>>12805676
Predictions?
Based on Vod Views, I say she'll get 32k
>She doesn't have coomer buff but people might be curious about her 3d tail

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>>12805828
>barks

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>>12805753
I know this might seem hard if you have a low IQ, but add them together in the same time frame. Pekora wins quite simply because she streams more.

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>>12805828
Universal Music huh.

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>>12805773
>>12805792
>>12805862

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>>12805828
>virgin music
he'll be lucky to get 5% of profits from that

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>>12805753
He is baiting, he didnt even acknowledge that we are talking about average VOD and continue with his ramble, just ignore.

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>>12805820
thats a given in the past 2 weeks (28/10-10/11) pekora has 16 streams on her channel whereas gura only has 6. obviously, this doesn't include appearances on other channels

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>>12805828
cool bait but suisei is a singer, kuzuha can't compete.

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>>12805841
>No he doesn't he just throws cheap bait all over the place and acts retarded when called out
Pekora literally has more VOD views than Gura. I don't know why this is so hard to accept. She was also leading Gura by the end of October so it's not like this is a new thing.
>>12805927
We are talking about VOD views, not average VOD views, those are two different things you absolute tool.

[Anonymous No.]

Sana's starting number is pretty good, 8k rn

[Anonymous No.]

>>12806004

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>>12806004
Don't bother with them, they're bitter that their HoloEN is dying a beautiful slow death.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12806004
like>>12805970
said no shit pekora beats gura she has nearly 3x as many streams on her chanel in the past 2 weeks then what gura has

[Anonymous No.]

>48k
It's so close, yet so far... Marine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12806004
Another thought, does Mori or Suisei have the highest baseline daily VOD ( No streaming)?

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>>12805972
Who's baiting?
Despite lackluster youtube numbers, Contrail is the best selling digital vtuber single so far that's tracked by Oricon.
This is going to sell like crazy whether or not he's good at singing.

[Anonymous No.]

kuzuhasisters we already won no need to be aggressive

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>>12806080
how much has she got left of the game

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>>12806072
You did notice how he didn't actually start talking about total vod views until some anon says he might be talking about that and then he acts like he's been talking about it all along, right?

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>>12806072
You retarded moron, go back to October, where Gura streamed a lot. She still had less total VOD views than Pekora. Pekora still streams a lot more but you can't just say "Gura has more VOD views" when that isn't true. You can however say her average VOD views are much higher, but then again you might want to glance at Ayame's channel again

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>>12806128
Almost over

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>>12806100
Kuzuha is currently trending in some western countries now, and of course many SEA countries as well. Our King is going global.

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>>12806128
At the end already

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>>12806144
Can you stop baiting already?

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>>12806141
I'm not the same person, I'm just tired of people repeating the same shit of Gura having the highest VOD views when that's not true. It hasn't been true for months. Average VOD views is an entirely different metric.

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>>12806144
Ayame has one of the lowest monthly avg. VOD too!!
0 per month

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>>12806192
Who's baiting when it's the truth?

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Nijis Won right??
Then why the fuck is the HoloEN VS HoloJP timelooping again?

Marine is on 48k, now ay she's getting 8k more this late

[Anonymous No.]

Will it funnel into this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12806192
Only when you concede Pekora's VOD views > Gura's VOD views. I concede Gura's VOD view average is higher, why can't you do the same. The numbers are there for everyone to see.

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>>12806193
>I'm just tired of people telling the truth
One of these days this will be the numbers thread and not the gaslighting and bullshit thread.
One day.

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>>12806214
Niji already won, why can't you stop? I don't get it

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>>12806090
it will sell, but bringing suisei into this made your post sound like bait because he won't match her numbers.

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>>12806164
So global his growth dies as soon as Japan goes to sleep.

Kuzukek's Vampire cover

1st hour: 145k
2nd hour: 245k (+100k)
3rd hour: 515k (+270k)
4th hour: 647k (+132k)
5th hour: 740k (+93k)
6th hour: 822k (+82k)
7th hour: 890k (+68k)
8th hour: 936k (+46k)
8h20m: 948k (+12k) (600 views/min; -21%)
8h40m: 957k (+9k) (450 views/min; -25%)
9h00m: 964k (+7k) (350 views/min; -22%)
9h20m: 970k (+6k) (300 views/min; -14%)
9h40m: 976.9k (+6.9k) (345 views/min; +15%)
10h00m: 981.1k (+4.2k) (210 views/min;-39%)
10h20m: 984.5k (+3.4k) (170 views/min;-19%)
10h40m: 987.6k (+3.1k) (155 views/min;-9%)
11h00m: 990.9k (+3.3k) (165 views/min;+3%)
11h20m: 994.9k (+4.0k) (200 views/min;+17%)
11h30m: 997.0k (+2.1k) (210 views/min;+5%)


Hours to 1 million views

Kuzuha - Vampire -> 11h44hm @ 210 view/minute

Gura - Reflect -> 10h29min
Caligula -> King 11h36m

[Anonymous No.]

>all this bait
Jesus Christ on a space overboard... DST really made seaniggers go on overdrive.

[Anonymous No.]

OWATTA!

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>>12806243
Highest AVERAGE VOD views, you're literally the one gaslighting right now.

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>>12806225
Marine's thing? Not really.

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>>12806262
2M/3M milestones : I..I...

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>>12806225
Good comeback numbers for her i guess

[Anonymous No.]

>was already last
>took a month break for a dog
You guys think she'll ever recover? Is it just over forever at this point? She's got 12k for her return Karaoke, probably better numbers than she ever had since debut.

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>>12806287
>>12806237

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>>12806329
I accept your concession
16m > 12m

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>>12806164
https://getdaytrends.com/united-states/trend/%23葛葉BDライブ/#otherLocations
Kek

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>>12806351
go move your goalposts somewhere else

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>>12806255
>he won't match her numbers.
Uh I think you got it the other way around mate.
Kuzuha's local popularity is much bigger than Suisei's and Oricon only tracks JP sales.
His female gachikois are going to go ham with this.
Contrail beat GHOST's digital sales (again, tracked by Oricon) despite performing much worse on youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

HoloEN should never have been made when more investments should be made in HoloJP. I hope Cover realizes their mistake soon.

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>>12806144
pekora still had more streams on her channel. pekora has 34 in October and gura has 21

[Anonymous No.]

marine's announcement was about the pc fucking knew it kek

[Anonymous No.]

This is shaping up to be the most attended post debut Sana solo stream

[Anonymous No.]

Marine got 48k without any tourists cause of shit thumbnail and no recommended/trending page. That's not a bad thing. Imagine if she defeated king on his birthday. Poor kuzufags...

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>>12806327
Everyone can incline with a good meme or event. I believe on Sana to be at least above Aki on March.

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>>12806327
>You guys think she'll ever recover?
No. Unless she somehow get's a viral clip or something, the sub culling really killed her

[Anonymous No.]

How is it even disputable that Pekora has the highest VOD views? It doesn't matter if she streams more. If someone streams more that increases their VOD views by default.
>>12806398
That's completely fucking irrelevant.

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>>12806327
She'll be the last EN for the foreseeable future, unless Gen 3 takes like a year and one of them really underperforms and Youtube still hasn't fixed the sub cull thing.

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>>12806402
Kek. All that doomposting for a goddamn PC.

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>>12806392
You're time looping too fast

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>>12806384
>Oricon only tracks JP sales
Yep, not surprised.

[Anonymous No.]

>12806384
(You)

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>>12804371
Anybody has the average viewer per stream ranking from last month? Can't find that shit, I'm stupid

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>>12806392
>>12806444

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>>12806363
How do they determine which is Worldwide on Twitter? Every country has to peak somewhat with a hashtag?

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>>12806454
I hope so, because EN is failing so bad.

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>>12806435
COPE

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>>12806398
Why is it so hard for you to admit that in VOD views Pekora > Gura? Average VOD views is another metric
>>12806492
I can do this all day, the numbers don't lie.

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>>12806440
She'd have to gain 400k subs in 5 months so like 80k subs a month. Impossible. Maybe she can beat Aki by 2023.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are nijiniggers so shitty even when they win. They have to bring others down their literally bully's.

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>>12806469
It used to track all sales but kpop schizos found a way to make everything on the ranking kpop.

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>>12806489
Here it goes. Sorted by median of peaks average, not mean of peaks and not by mean CCV (because I can't get that from mado)

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>>12806090
Get off your high horse, you seriously comparing this >>12756000 to some random?

his yt numbers is lackluster for a reason, it's shit

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>>12806442
Nah she could but she’s have to find a time slot and a niche and be consistent for months with it. She was never going to be a Gura mass appeal Holo anyway. Art would be obvious but she doesn’t seem to want to use that angle… even though she has professional level skill in it. Sigh

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Chumbuds can go be insecure somewhere else, this is the numbers thread, not the Hololive EN defense force.
Pekora's CCV and VOD numbers > Gura's CCV and VOD numbers
Gura's average VOD numbers > Pekora's average VOD numbers
This isn't rocket science.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/J-EBMs_TFnI
It never ends, milking the game dry.

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>>12806402
Those specs are good, but it's gonna be an oven with that shitty airflow from the case

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>>12806442
Everyone took the same sub hit, her model, voice, content, timezone, and schedule are what killed her.

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>>12806534
Who told you it's the nijiniggers who are throwing the bait? Is the win not enough proof that it couldn't have been the nijiniggers

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>>12806554
Thanks very much

[Anonymous No.]

Did it flop? must be reclining hard

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>>12805310
>You kidding right? Most Pekora's VoDs are around 400k, Gura is struggling to get her VoDs above 350k now.
>16 posts later
>>12806602
>>12806520
What's the threshold for blatant trolling again?

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>>12806583
Contrail sales and stream plays nosedived after the first week.
Suisei is consistently selling even close to a month after her album came out.

[Anonymous No.]

The only streams from Niji above 10k for the day are the two streams about Kuzuha... King carrying

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>12806602
(You)

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>>12806602
Everyone understands your argument. It's pedantic and no one really cares, so please fuck off or find something else to talk about.

[Anonymous No.]

>marine shilling a 500k yen PC to 30k people
Sasuga, it's all red too

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>>12806743
As always.

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>>12806520
you do realize i'm am saying it is obvious why pekora would have more total vod view because even if they have the same average she streams nearly twice as much as gura

[Anonymous No.]

Hurry up and take the thread to bump limit, it's completely garbage right now like holy shit. Could you fuckers stop with the bait and shitposting until we hit bump limit once in a while?!

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>>12806534
>bully
Are you blind or a newfag? Literally niji and kuzuha are getting shit on in here everyday, win or not. Now, who's the bully

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>>12806682
>Thanks very much
Here, if you guys want to play with the data
https://files.catbox.moe/xzvwkz.csv

Just be nice and credit Holostats and Mado if you are going to use it somewhere
>AND FOR FUCK SAKE DON'T CREDIT ANONYMOUS SHITPOSTERS IN THIS THREAD, BOARD OR SITE

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>>12806766
Is it spirit bomb ?
Every Niji, lend me your CCV !!

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>>12806583
>>12806713
he already posted enough so most anons can tell it's bait, don't genuinely engage.

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>>12806694
>What's the threshold for blatant trolling again?
The first post is literally not me you fucking retard, not my fault your chumbud ass got triggered someone pointed the obvious that Pekora has a higher VOD viewer count quite simply because she streams more. That guy was clearly wrong about average VOD views and thus also being retarded. See, not that hard is it?
>>12806778
She could stream 50x as much as Gura and that would still be irrelevant, a VOD view is a VOD view.
>>12806757
>it's pedantic
This is literally the numbers thread.

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like Cover should not have left China. Chinese fans are wayyy more loyal and they can buy stuff from Japan instead of the fickle EOPs.

[Anonymous No.]

Don't reply to ENschizo
Just let him cope

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>>12806889
>More loyal
Yes, to CCP.

[Anonymous No.]

nijisanji has china, why are they still failing?

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>>12805412
CCV to vod views is weird. Look at this

Has higher peak, has higher average, longer stream but still didn't get higher vod.

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>>12806889
The taiwan audience is better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c3vcDw6oGo

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>>12806820
>Now, who's the bully
WELL... !?
https://streamable.com/dkwjgr

Funniest thing is that
1) this webm was made by some Holobro
2) Nijisanji fandom can't meme, this webm could clearly be a smash hit propping up their fanbase if they were not so anal retentive and insecure

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>>12806911
Have a feeling that it starts to feel like 2 trolls, or one anon who just doesnt get the concept of a troll baiting.

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>>12806875
Cope, it's a fact that Gura shits all over your numbers bunny in average VODs and would also shit all over her in average CCVs if Youtube wasn't nerfing her so hard.

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>>12806865
Kek, it's not bait anon.
Why is it so hard to admit Kuzuha is popular in Japan and has lots of gachikoi so his album is going to sell well?
I brought up Suzy since she's the current record holder and he's the first person that has a realistic chance of breaking it.

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>>12806687
damn I wish Pekora played it today to mog kuzufags and Marine on the day aqua had 3d live so that aqua could get first place.
would have been perfect for me.

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>>12806981
Oh, so it actually was an insecure cumbud. Take your hypothetical dream scenarios somewhere else, this is the numbers thread.

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>>12806889
Wasn't enough chink pesos to keep Hololive interested in that market. They still watch Hololive anyway and donate by pretending to be Taiwanese, same as they always did. No one watched the actual CN branch.

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>>12806889
I think ENschizo is a chink
What do you think guys?

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>>12806889
if you check the bilibili superchats its pathetic

[Anonymous No.]

Marine just announced that she will have a collab with Sakura Koromin tomorrow

https://www.youtube.com/c/sakuracorominCh/videos

Someone here know about her? Seems to get pretty consistent views

[Anonymous No.]

No funnel for Sanal

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>>12806820
Sorry anon, but Niji is the black company here with a lot of reports of bullying between talent.

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>>12807005
I will kneel to Kuzuha if he managed to do that. He has a pretty good chance too.
t. hoshiyomi

[Anonymous No.]

>mogs any non-debut nijiEN stream ever
not bad for the absolute bottom of holoEN

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>>12806955
Yes, because per video, Gura wins if the videos are the same length, even if her CCV is lower. This is both because of YT's fucked CCV culling and Gura having a higher amount of people who can't catch her live. That's it. Of course it's hard to get videos of equal length and there's obviously exceptions with less popular games, but on average Gura has stronger VOD growth PER VIDEO (I'm sick of this shit flinging I l'm seeing, just...stop, please)

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>>12806889
chikchama I..

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>>12807061
This is the girl who had to change her name from Corona to Coromin lol.

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>>12807061
Holy shit, I had just commented about her: >>12720164

She's making a comeback or something?

>>12807113
> N I J I J C O E P
> I
> J
> I
> C
wait, what?
>rubs eyes, it's about Gura
what?

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>>12807061
One of the oldest vtubers ( exist before AI)
One of the biggest victims of COVID(had to change her old name)

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>>12807031
It's not hypothetical you retarded nijinigger, the live viewer culling is a fact and is what brought Gura down from a 40k-50k streamer to the 20k-30k she is now.

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>>12806889
Okey ...your zhang exposed...

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>>12806889
Haha, funny. Here's a (you). I say this as a 1st gen chink, fuck mainland China and the cancer that is it's business practices. I'm glad cover cut ties, that shit is a cancer that bleeds companies dry then runs off with everything not nailed down while shooting you in the kneecaps.

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>>12807146
>This is the girl who had to change her name from Corona to Coromin lol.
What a wasted opportunity to call herself
>Coronachan
and bask into the glory of /pol/ memes

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>>12806889
Way to expose your just a chink kek, nice try shilling though

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807026
Pekora just want to bully onion for fun.

[Anonymous No.]

I hope you guys are replying to bait out of boredom instead of being a genuine retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807113
There's also a much bigger English speaking market for the algorithm to recommend Gura VODs to. Part of the reason ENs VODs have a longer tail, other than just the timezone concentration.

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>>12807113
Dude stop coping it's embarrassing.
>>12807180
>the live viewer culling is a fact and is what brought Gura down from a 40k-50k streamer to the 20k-30k she is now.
Gura's highest viewer average, 46k, was still beaten by Pekora in the same month. You might be new here.

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>>12807180
Or people just left Gura for Pekora and they don't find HoloEN entertaining anymore.

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>>12806889
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Rp7UPbhErE

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>>12807092
>Lots of report
Read the flow of the conversation. We're talking about the # thread, not the livers in general. And I know about the Roa incident but that's it for the bullying report. If what you by meant lots, those probably are just memes flying around. i also don't mind if you could list official bullying reports.

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>>12806832
Damn, nice, ty

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>>12807094
These insecure bitches think I'm baiting when I'm actually a hoshiyomi too.
Hoping he doesn't break her record ofc, but it's feels kind of inevitable after seeing Contrail's digital sales and his free concert section numbers today.
The announcement of his mini-album got more JOP attention in 2 hours than Suisei's ever did and Oricon only cares about JP sales.

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>>12807223
>bullying Aqua
Pekora isnt that retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807237
Chumbud cope is rare compared to nijicope, of course people will reply.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807243
That was her highest viewer average last year, her popularity hasn't stopped growing since then so she'd be pulling even higher CCVs nowadays you dumbfuck
>>12807245
Cope nijinigger

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>>12807180
Natural decline too even without the cull Gura doesn't have the same live viewers as a year ago, no one in EN does.

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>>12807113
Anon im not talking about gura here. Im talking about pekora's number here. Im not gonna join the shitpost battle.

[Anonymous No.]

>still trying

[Anonymous No.]

>TURN ON SANA STREAM
>LISTEN TO HER MASSACRING SOME ATTEMPT TO HIT A HIGH ENOUGH NOTE
>DO A 360 AND WALK AWAY
Genuinely Noel tier

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>>12807243
Dude, you're arguing with multiple people over different fucking things and I wasn't even relying to your ass. Someone asked a genuine questiom, get your head out of your ass. Hell, even accounting for more streams, WHO HAS THE MOST FUCKING VODS OVER 1M?

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>>12807320
>natural decline
You seem to be confusing EN for JP, not a single JP can compete with EN's sub growth even now and you think they're declining? Lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>Niji wins a day
>Thread goes to shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807282
It's because of Nijisanji topic. Nijisanji's tweets always got way more engagement than Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

Who is this Sakura Koromin?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807243
>Gura's highest viewer average, 46k, was still beaten by Pekora in the same month
>just barely
and why dont you talk about the two months prior?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807360
I know. Is the SOVL I missed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807360
BOOBA tier

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807360
get filtered fag

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807403
Actually they are mean ccv, Gura had the higher avg.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807380
And the discussion doesn't even involve Nijisanji. What a plot twist

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807323
I appear to have completely misunderstood the question, mb.
The answer usually is the algorithm picked one of the vids to get recommended more for one reason or another. Be it clips, time of day when it was watched etc.

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>>12806875
gura's average vod view for October (11,434,271 total, 21 vods) was 544,489.
pekora's average vod view for October (13,003,034 total, 34 vods) was 382,442
>She could stream 50x as much as Gura and that would still be irrelevant, a VOD view is a VOD view.
ignoring the above, lets say they both had 300k average vod view and streamed the same amount as they did in October, pekora would have 10.2m total and gura would have 6.3m total.
i know its an obvious troll at this point but this is more interesting than my work

[Anonymous No.]

Any Mori album sale data from before to compare with Suisei? Im tired of the 2 dual trolls.

[Anonymous No.]

Sana getting 15k, does she beat all of NijiEN3?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12806327
With a lot of hard work and luck, yes she can gain a better incline. This is not matsuri who actually fucked up, this is more shitty circumstances that caused the death of growth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807480
EN3 only got like 3k

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807360
>Not liking scuffed kino
What a shit taste anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807479

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807360
How can nijiEN compete with this much SOVL?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12806889
they don't though, that was the point. it was costing them more money bowing to CN viewers who didn't SC or buy merch than it did to cut them loose. the diehards are still buying/SCing, the rest were bringing nothing but "views" which was only bringing them more scrutiny from the CCP, not brand deals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807403
>>12807243
both gura and peko get mogged by ayame's 86k avg best month

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807393
Doesn't change my point. The topic is just advertising it to even more people.
To be fair, Suisei's domain has always been youtube and not twitter, where she strangely performs quite badly.
Her 1 mil subs celebration tweet only got around 35k likes, which Kuzuha gets by tweeting an emoji after a big stream.
Even Kanata's 1 mil celebration tweet had more likes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12806773
>flops hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807401
see >>12807061

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807571
They're talking about mere mortals anon, Ojou is on the divine realm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807571
Mayuzumi Kai had 88K ?
Can someone give the source?

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>>12807403
I specifically said that her peak average was beaten though. Just tired of pretending that the cull only affected EN. This shit has been paddled for a year now.
>>12807362
>Hell, even accounting for more streams, WHO HAS THE MOST FUCKING VODS OVER 1M?
Gura, but a VOD view is a VOD view and Pekora has more of those. It's like trying to say Germany actually beat the USSR because they had a better k:d ratio.
>>12807319
>her popularity hasn't stopped growing since
And Pekora's has? She's literally at her height of popularity right now.
>>12807571
Ojou... my knees are bending on their own.....

[Anonymous No.]

Botan caught part of Marine's funnel

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807571
Avg.? You forgot Coco.
At least using mean ccv OK ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807319
>popularity hasn't stopped growing
>used to get 1 mil vod every week
>now is lucky to even get 500k
Huh.
I miss the days when Gura used to mog everyone else in those Panora VOD listings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807571
How the fuck does she keeps getting away with it
I swear, this is more of a mystery than anything in Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807522
that's weird. Mori number 16 only? I wonder what her number would be if she released an album instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807650
He did 1 stream that month and it was some gimmick stream following his irl billboard stunt and a twitter poll which made it sound like he was going to do a spontaneous graduation.

[Anonymous No.]

Holy cow people, what the bloody hell is going on in the thread? I walk away for a few hours and it's just bait posts, bad faith arguments and even more shit than usual. Did Kuzuha lose or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807539
they don't have soul to begin with

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807705
She and the rest of HoloEN are dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807522
Thanks anon, seem decent number for Mori if counting only those in JP who can buy the copy.
No idea how many JP fans she has though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807730
Kuzuha didn't lose but he didn't win either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807282
Why don’t you wait until the chart came out before talking results. No one expects suisei to sell more than bouquet but she did it anyway. Contrail was his first single, there was hype around it and sadly the hype didn’t even last for more than a week

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807729
Basicaly what Ayame did in Oct.
So Mayuzumi Kai > Ayame?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807716
Oricon only track Japan sales and I bet Mori's the majority of Mori's audience live outside Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807730
Nijiniggers are called nijiniggers for a reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807730
2 biggest streams of the day over, people have fallen into despair and madness.

[Anonymous No.]

Anons... I think HoloEN killed his whole family

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807730
Chumbuds are angry and Kuzuha underperformed. Anyways here are some fresh numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807656
>the cull only affected EN
The cull affected everyone but EN was hit far harder. Saying otherwise is denying reality, if CCVs were fixed Gura would be at the top by every measure.
>And Pekora's has? She's literally at her height of popularity right now.
Pekora was never as popular as Gura in the first place, hell, the subs gap is STILL widening after a year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807781
makes sense, I didn't read the title.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807650
it was some low 80k

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807811
>subs
That's cope strike 3, you're out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807801
There is someone who isn't a vtuber at the top.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807802
Well done

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807705
>comparing views from last year to fresh videos not even a week old
ask me how I know you're a nijinigger

[Anonymous No.]

The sad state of this thread. All this bait from nijis and people just eating it up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807578
So whats your point? Tweet engagement doesn’t mean shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807782
How is it nijiniggers fault when the bait was pekora vs gura? Please explain, I'm new here, I don't get it

[Anonymous No.]

>>12806520
>the holo EN schizo is the VOD numbers schizo
Not that it wasn't blatant

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807692
ok then, median ccv for Ayame that month: still 86k

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807906
Despite making up 13% of the population, Nijiniggers commit 52% of the schizoposts

[Anonymous No.]

Jesus, is this an actual chumbud who doesnt listen to people advice to stop replying to bait, or another troll vs troll. Even if I am genuine about my favorite I still can recognize bait to not continue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807861
>subs don't matter cope
Hello nijibrony, you just exposed yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807801
Well, I know Kson doesn't count for today because it was a cosplay stream.
>>12807811
Pekora's probably more popular in Japan specifically, but the only thing Gura has over Pekora is sub count. If that's the metric for popularity then yea, Gura is more popular.
Just for pure metrics, I wish I could poll 100k people distributed randomly, and ask them who is the most popular Hololive member just to answer the question outside of 'subs' though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807930
Proof?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807801
Sorry kson, today you're not going into the ranks for doing a coomer facecam

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807768
It's called making a prediction, anon.
You know, what most of this thread does when it's not shitposting/baitposting hours like right now?

>Contrail was his first single, there was hype around it and sadly the hype didn’t even last for more than a week
Yeah it dropped off a cliff and it's still the best selling digital vtuber single according to >>12807522.
I think the same might happen for his mini-album.
Like Contrail, it'll sell enough in the first few days that the steep falloff won't matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807965
I thought she said she was only doing cam streams on mildom

[Anonymous No.]

It makes me feel tingly inside to see HoloEN fail so spectacularly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807873
Ask me how I know you're a faggot.
I'm comparing her old numbers to her new numbers.
Gura used to reach 1 mil no problem within a week. It used to be a no brainer to be #1 in the Panora VOD lists unless there was a new song release or an event
Now she's lucky to even get into the Top 10.
If that's not recline, I don't know what is

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807958
>only thing is subs
Gura beats Pekora in VODs handily and also in CCV too considering that the viewer culling hits EN harder than JP. The only thing Pekora has over Gura is superchats (she loses in membership count) and that's only because EN doesn't beg for SCs

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808054
Yesssss King, prove those who are blind to see the truth.

[Anonymous No.]

Stop replying to fucking bait holy shit just believe whatever you want to believe that helps you sleep at night

[Anonymous No.]

Here is the data for Hololive for July 2021

>51870 median :: 161413 mean :: Coco (4 streams)
>35187 median :: 35187 mean :: Shion (1 streams)
>32848 median :: 50590 mean :: Marine (20 streams)
>30392 median :: 30997 mean :: Pekora (48 streams)
>24587 median :: 29444 mean :: Hololive (10 streams)
>23901 median :: 25842 mean :: Ayame (5 streams)
>21967 median :: 22155 mean :: Miko (34 streams)
>21784 median :: 35912 mean :: Haato (6 streams)
>21695 median :: 22271 mean :: Gura (13 streams)
>21077 median :: 28058 mean :: Subaru (21 streams)
>20179 median :: 25770 mean :: Suisei (12 streams)
>19147 median :: 18787 mean :: Aqua (8 streams)
>17462 median :: 21869 mean :: Rushia (24 streams)
>17140 median :: 21444 mean :: Kanata (29 streams)
>16416 median :: 19599 mean :: Korone (27 streams)
>16139 median :: 21932 mean :: IRyS (13 streams)
>12051 median :: 13362 mean :: Botan (29 streams)
>11911 median :: 11765 mean :: Inanis (20 streams)
>11197 median :: 10744 mean :: Flare (31 streams)
>11080 median :: 13595 mean :: Noel (24 streams)
>10386 median :: 11430 mean :: Mio (20 streams)
>9837 median :: 10993 mean :: Watame (34 streams)
>9710 median :: 10738 mean :: Nene (20 streams)
>9112 median :: 12125 mean :: Okayu (24 streams)
>8985 median :: 9831 mean :: Amelia (36 streams)
>8608 median :: 10991 mean :: Fubuki (34 streams)
>8596 median :: 10955 mean :: Calliope (20 streams)
>8514 median :: 8602 mean :: Lamy (34 streams)
>7684 median :: 7899 mean :: Polka (16 streams)
>7343 median :: 9547 mean :: Kiara (24 streams)
>6086 median :: 8593 mean :: Matsuri (21 streams)
>6002 median :: 6793 mean :: Towa (25 streams)
>5784 median :: 11348 mean :: AZKi (5 streams)
>5475 median :: 6252 mean :: Luna (29 streams)
>3783 median :: 4412 mean :: Sora (19 streams)
>3771 median :: 4237 mean :: Ollie (33 streams)
>3263 median :: 3700 mean :: Roboco-san (27 streams)
>3208 median :: 4238 mean :: Choco (27 streams)
>3109 median :: 3527 mean :: Rosenthal (10 streams)
>2572 median :: 3665 mean :: Mel (6 streams)
>1870 median :: 3290 mean :: Hoshinova (17 streams)
>1530 median :: 1599 mean :: Leda (21 streams)
>1466 median :: 1941 mean :: Reine (27 streams)
>1292 median :: 1435 mean :: Risu (11 streams)
>1158 median :: 1558 mean :: Iofifteen (8 streams)
>1124 median :: 2270 mean :: Shien (14 streams)
>1114 median :: 1312 mean :: Roberu (31 streams)
>932 median :: 1187 mean :: Melfissa (18 streams)
>856 median :: 1009 mean :: Arurandeisu (52 streams)
>772 median :: 954 mean :: Izuru (11 streams)
>767 median :: 1454 mean :: Oga (21 streams)
>653 median :: 828 mean :: Miyabi (15 streams)
>639 median :: 843 mean :: Rikka (22 streams)
>574 median :: 657 mean :: Temma (37 streams)

I don't know what the fuck Marine was doing but WTF

[Anonymous No.]

How the fuck is it not at 1M yet? It's already over a month old now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808071

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808071
Memberships are not revealed publicly, that means Pekora could as well beat Gura in this category too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808071
Jesus Christ the level of Chumbud cope in here is STAGGERING. Pekora has more VOD views btw, it doesn't matter that Gura streams less.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807469
The thread is always shit because of tribalism, either Holo-Niji or as is today, Holo JP - EN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808113
Because he's a trash

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808113
His fans are looping his King cover instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808135
See: >>12808128
Gura wins.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808113
Holy stall. Will Kiara beat Kuzeha to 1M with her Vampire cover? That would be pretty funny

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807767
>didn't win
Wait, how does that work?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808156
They can't accept the fact that HoloEN is dying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808113
Same reason the UMISEA song is not at 1 mil views yet despite almost 2 months.
>It's not very good

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807962
Im a nijifag and that anon is telling the true

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807958
And the answer would be Gura. The Internet at large knows who Gura is more than Pekora. Hell they know who Korone is more than Pekora. Popularity=/=dedicated CCV

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808163
One of these days this will be the actual numbers thread and not the tribalschizo hunting grounds

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808196
Nijisanji won since its on nijisanji channel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808113
anon show me on the doll where kuzuha channel hurt you

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808113
Niji 10M originals milestone :
NONE

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808196
His Birthday Concert was on the Niji Main Ch.

[Anonymous No.]

Well done guys, just ignore that ENschizo
You can do it

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807650

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808261
fuck you, you are not my dad

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808156
>he's back to pretending anyone cares about total VOD views

[Anonymous No.]

A-Anons....
>what did RatGirl mean by this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808111
Costume, pseudo gen 3 concert on her channel. bunch of collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

EN is dying chumfuck, now go back to global

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808335
Never leaving nijinigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808331
nijiKR...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808244
>>12808253
Oh. Well, it's a Niji win anyways, not sure why EnSchizo, anti Gura(in numbers thread) schizo and all the other usual suspects decided today was a good day to shit things up together.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808275
Checkmate

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808335
They can't understand it, despite all the proofs

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807988
It’s tracking only the first week anon. He got the hype but the hype didn’t live on no? Shit barely even getting 10k views nowadays.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808197
>>12808335
>>12806054
>>12808385
>if I keep posting it it'll become true

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807958
Gura is more popular as a yotuber while pekora is more popular as a streamer

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808372
ojou I kneel

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808331
I think almost all the HoloEN girls say thank you in Korean too, in addition to the usual English and Japanese.
I know Kiara does when she wraps up her SC readings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808423
So much cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808365
i suppose becasue while it is a win it was technically a underperforming free section.
56k

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808410
The numbers don't lie and you're in the numbers thread, not global. EN has been on a decline for months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808423
I'm pretty sure Pekora is more known than Gura anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808113
I don’t know anon it’s supposed to be the best selling vtuber single

[Anonymous No.]

I know some schizo is barking mad
But the best way to deal with him is ignoring him

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808372

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808423
Basically, kid channel > music channel > pure streamer.
For most YT channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808331
means shes revising korean, i think

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808456
Yeah it's the numbers thread, not the gaslighting thread, back your shit up with numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808330
Why would average VOD views be more important than total VOD views in any way?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808444
Either Cover is pushing for more KR pandering or the girls simply saw a surge of KR viewers and SC in their stats and decided to throw them a bone every now and then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808545
Depands, TikTok clips? Like Junya

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808545
In the YT algo, the more people are visiting each VOD, the more YT is likely to recommend your shit to more people to see if they wanna watch it. That's about it besides maximizing effort/money earned.
>>12808455
Oh, that's a bit short of the 60k I predicted. Hrm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808564
JP attracts EN, then EN attracts KR. Finally KR attracts ES. You'll see!
CN...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808545
Why wouldn't it? Having one video that has over one million views is better than have 10 thousand videos with over a hundred views both in terms of the algorithm and audience engagement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808564
Lol, that won't do anything much. Cover with the useless things as always. When will they learn that HoloEN is irrelevant anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

Vod total: pekora
Sc : pekora
Sponsor: pekora
Live views: pekora
Merch: pekora
Vod ave. : gura
Sub :gura
Music views: gura
Membership: N/A

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808654
Membership: Pekora

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808641
TW branch is the future

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808643
That actually depends, Youtube prefers 20 videos with 500k views to 2 videos with 3 million views. Especially if they're in the same time frame.
This has been the case since the very first adpocalypse, youtube has always been prioritizing watch time. Why do you think you can't find many videos shorter than 10 minutes about anything nowadays?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808682
>>12808128
?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808695
A TW branch won't survive the mainlander onslaught

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808654
SEE>>12808128
>Membership: Gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808654
Membership as far as we know goes to Gura, but everything else is correct.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808641
China choose to antagonise the rest of the world and make it such that everyone who deals with them have to choose between appealing to them or the rest of the world, blame them for willingly getting locked out of this cycle

>>12808645
>if I keep posting it it'll become true

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808610
was probably also because they start a bit early since marine came close since she got to 49k

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808695
No, unless they are all singers.
But TW chuba can sing EN songs with archived, can Cover provide the copyright?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808654
>Sponsor: pekora
We actually don't know

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808695
Would that be a good thing though? Yes, audience loyalty in TW towards holo is great. But it's a small potential audience pool and it will cannibalize your current talent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808407
>the hype didn’t live on no? Shit barely even getting 10k views nowadays.
Bruh, I literally said it fell off a cliff, you're preaching to the choir.
That's what happens to 90% of vtuber original songs.
Mori, Suisei and a few others are exceptions in that their originals have legs.
Look at the original songs of Botan, Nene, Watame...etc.
Kiseki Knot fell off hard after every holofan was looping it during Coco's graduation week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808790
Being the designated SEGA and Squeenix shill, I think that's hard to beat. All of her weekend streams for the past month or two have been sponsored.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808729
Its a speculation from an old data
>>12808763
What other category did i miss? What about artworks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808798
>small audience pool
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808654
One condition : Only count after Sep 2020 (Gura debut)

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808782
Seeing how all foreign branches of Hololive are dropping like flies, would anyone want to join?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808833
That wouldn't really change anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808798
>Small potential audience pool
There's twenty three million people on that island, it's not exactly small, not to mention that the Taiwanese dedication to Hololive is honestly the stuff cults are made off

[Anonymous No.]

Why do they like EN (and Ollie) so much but not JP?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808866
At least Pekora avg. VOD can be higher

[Anonymous No.]

soo will Kuzuha have a stream on his channel as well? if not then his chances to overtake Kanata in total scs just got crushed. unless his fans saved 52k$ for his next stream

[Anonymous No.]

OH SHIT NUMA NUMA YAY

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808889
EN has 2 ACTUAL Koreans, what do you think?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808836
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808889
Do we need to crack open a history book, Anon?
You'd think old grudges would be resolved, but...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808889
it's obviously because en is irrelevant

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808889
Ollie actually referenced a popular Korean meme which how she got attention at first on that channel. Koreans absolutely love when foreigners get into their food/culture/media. Holos should lean into it more.

[Anonymous No.]

>Nijisanji only had two streams both go above 10k.
>Both Kuzuha's solo live stream.
I don't care if Holo didn't get first place if this is the outcome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808836
>>12808991
Anon stop this is embarrasing

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808878
Avg. TW subs capped at 50K, you have to be good at singing or meme lord or JP chuba speaking Chinese to reach 100K

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808991
>irrelevant
ENschizo is ESL...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809025
Deal with it, Nijisanji on the decline, HoloEN on the decline, only glorious HoloJP reigns supreme.
....
....
Too obvious?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808932
Well, Niji tradition is he'll do a zatsu talking about his concert, which will function as his concert payday. Maybe a bday + post-concert zatsu for double buffs?
He didn't do a 1 mil celebration stream and all his gachis SC-ed his free chat instead, which doesn't get counted by Playboard IIRC so his numbers might be already off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809038
Yeah and the average ID sub caps out at 100k, that obviously doesn't apply to holos

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809025
I mean, is there any Niji brave enough to stream during the concert and face the wrath of his fans?

[Anonymous No.]

Odds of Shion going above 30k? Pekora and Nijisansi did twice each, Marine did once and Mio almost did it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809057
How new?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809105
20k max i think
this game gets old pretty fast

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808889
Ollie is a huge fan of Korean culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808889
Well...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809057
seanigger*

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808889
You get less flak for liking EN than JP in Korea

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808831
Well in market size. TW has a pop of ~20 million. Unless you think CN would boost the TW audience pool?
Compare that to if they would release a ES branch, that's roughly Spanish speaking population of ~500 million.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809038
Pretty sure TW is more bigger than that. If HoloKR, TW, EU and ES opens, just getting ID numbers is enough. The box push in Hololive will almost always guarantee them getting better numbers than other companies/streamers. Collabing with EN/JP will net them views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808128
>Most recent is April
Is there any new data on this at all?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809057
>>12809215
Is he a spic or seanigger?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809265
If you think vtuber will survive in the future, tough luck pal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809307
>Is he a spic or seanigger?
Wouldn't phillipines check both boxes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808889
Ollie's ara ara went viral
https://youtu.be/YlvVSSLM9Pg
https://youtu.be/zIezdJgyY4g
https://youtu.be/Mja1880KeNo
https://youtu.be/ZeNj6JQRKTw

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808654
>Sponsor: pekora
Taco Bell
>Live views: pekora
Gura is higher after accounting for Susan culling her views
>Merch: pekora
Gura has unprecedented nendoroid sales
>Membership
Gura
Rest is correct

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809398
The worst of both worlds.

[Anonymous No.]

TW is too unstable, HK can get all the TW and CN viewers while being perfectly ambiguous towards the PRC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808878
Not arguing their dedication at all, but that if they would open a TW branch it will most likely hit their JP talents. The point of opening a new branch is the gain a foothold in that culture sphere to gain more audience for the company as a whole. Opening a TW branch grants exposureto 23 million, but a Korean branch would be 51 million. ES branch even bigger culture exposure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809417
They're also BR levels of prideful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809258
It's not just about population. Remember how an Indian branch is a bad idea? Weeb stuff has always been welcome and profitable in Taiwan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808889
They undertsand english not japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809434
>HK
I'm afraid not for long

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809434
>Hong Kong
It's already dead, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809352
Depends. If FB's Metaverse could sail off and be a pioneer in new AR/VR tech communication, other companies would follow suit. After that, the entertainment industry would also evolve. No longer do people need to attend concerts in person, they'd attend it using VR shit and stuff and Holos could blend in fine. Honestly, I'm optimistic at Holo's current pathway at the moment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809258
TW has big "audience" market (high avg.), yet chuba requirement is still developing.
Pretty sure they can't always follow JP pattern--- pure streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809406
Lol. You really just used Taco Bell as an excuse and 1 nendo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809440
This is already good numbers for a Taiwan chuuba. Even higher than nijiEN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809566
Metaverse is DOA. Didn't you see the fucking backlash it got?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809622
what backlash?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809611
She is one of the top ( at least top 5).
There is no enough market for pure streaming I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are red Kuzuha's Apex numbers so low compared to his other streams? I thought being good at Apex was supposed to be his appeal.

[Anonymous No.]

NumberGODs, I need your help, if Mori were to release a new album she would most likely do really well if not be at the top for a while, right?
t. never comes here but I need to btfo someone saying she wouldn't actually pull numbers
From reading this thread you guys posted JP sales (which Your Mori was at 16th place) would you happen to have any other data?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809586
Not sure if trolling or just a newfag, but Taco Bell is run by the same company that also runs KFC and PIzza Hut, they're one of the largest food companies in the world, and no other nendo has sold out as fast and gone for a second run as quickly as Gura's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809458
Oh I know it's not about population, but the population sets a comparable limit on potential growth. The thing with India is on a technological level as a whole is far behind any other potential branch. In all honestly I only see three potential markets that they could try to exploit in the now. ES, Korea and TW. Europe is another potential one, but it's more complex since Europe is such a mixed bag, and I say this as a Euro-bro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809566
>No longer do people need to attend concerts in person, they'd attend it using VR shit
Thinking the concert bigwigs would allow such a thing without resistance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809732
Depends on what market. The issue with trying to track album sales is that not all avenues of buying are tracked, so...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809732
>if not be at the top for a while, right?
Depends on who else releases at the same time

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809830
Music sales are a mess. Between physical, digital, and streams revenue streams are fragmented. The criteria for a platinum/diamond record needs a formula now. Of course the real whammy is all of those out together are basically just advertising for the real money makers: concerts and merch. At least for traditional 3D artists

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809566
It already happening. See VR Chat and Fortnite concert.

[Anonymous No.]

JWU
Did it slip?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809830
>>12809859
I see, it's just that with how big she is and popular her songs are it's baffling that a retard is trying to argue that it would be a flop, it makes no sense to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809732
Most of her sales are outside Japan which we have nothing reliable to get the number from. Oricon and Billboard are pretty accurate so we use that. I think Mori's EP charted #1 on several platforms, but no numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12810012
Yes
Because it's not on his channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>12810017
>it's baffling that a retard is trying to argue that it would be a flop
Arguing with retards, not even once

[Anonymous No.]

>>12810017
What is their definition of flop? People here always said that IRyS' song is a flop but she charted #1 everywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12810017
Sounds like you were baited into arguing with a retard. Many such cases.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808804
And that’s why I said the hype carried him for contrail. Will the hype carried him with his album is another story, hype and sale usually went down after first release.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12810052
That's cope. Numbers are numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12810017
Do you want to see a flop?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12809960
Yeah, that's the thing. Hololive is on a crash course towards all of that. All they need is some large company backing them up preferably Japanese to make a game where people could join and watch a concert together. But of course Sony, instead of just outright buying Cover, they intend to make their own group while giving them animes, mangas, lore etc. Nintendo is a game company so that's out of the bag too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12810017
Mori's paypigs alone would ensure it wouldn't flop. Sora continues to release albums so she's doing well and Daisenpai is not in Mori's league.

>>12810176
here's another baiting retard

[Anonymous No.]

$15k for kson hitting 1 million is... honestly really bad for her. For the majority of Hololive members that are over 1m subs the stream that they did it has their highest superchats, and often widly disproportionate to their other streams (Marine 64k, Watame 45k, Ayame 43k, Miko 42k etc.) She gets good SCs for her everyday streams and does very well overall because of that, but without strong events she won't be able to compete at the very top like she did as Coco

[Anonymous No.]

>>12810154
Yes, and in this case the numbers are on Niji main channel, so the winner of today isssssss
Nijisanji (Nijisanji), not Kuzuha.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/ProjektMelody/status/1458449370957942789
Excuse me what the fuck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12810228
>chaturbate
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>12810217
Golds are golds.
>>12810228
No comment. I'm sure the rest of the catalog has an opinion.

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>>12810228
Old news around here, but yes.

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>>12810264
Oh yea, it's a Niji gold, though you could give a 'dummy gold's to Kuzuha since it was his event...

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>>12809622
>metaverse
>backlash
There was no such thing anon, everyone was making fun of FB for rebranding to Meta because it was obvious that they did it to move away from the brand that they ran into the ground. In a general sense, their other services (VR, Instagram, Whatsapp, etc) have very little negative pushback against them.

IMO, they should have done this way back, just like hot Google rebranded to Alphabet.

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>>12810228
For this thread, I'm only interested in the numbers. I know Melody has 2-3k on Twitch but I have no idea about her CB numbers

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>>12810213
She takes home more though but yeah she probably makes less overall compared to when she was in Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

Kson 1M, the 2nd indie
Next : PARRA 997K
3 Indie in a row

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[Anonymous No.]

>>12810213
You're saying it like it's her first time hitting it.

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>>12809737
Anon. Pekora was already featured in national tv commercials with Nissin which is also a global brand not that it fucking matters since Pekora gets more Spons than that. Are you a newfag or something? Nendos? Everything that Gura has Pekora already has and more as far as merch and sponsorship.

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>>12810228
Must be the creative differences she had with Cover.

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>>12810439

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>>12810393
I remember some anon said Melody gets ballpark 20k on CB? I can't verify it though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12810228
Well, looks like both Sydsnap and Garnt are already leeching off Kson. I wonder when she will appear on Trash Taste.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12810439
>>12810470
did you get bored and wanted to start the gura vs pekor loop again or did you miss your original chance to shitpost?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12810470
Kinda amazing that Gura is on the road to becoming the top subscribed channels in Japan despite being EN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12810487
I wonder how many times they will ask her about Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

Sana has only 23,323円 on her comeback zatsudan that's starting in 10 minutes. I thought she'd get monster SCs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12810502
I J*U and wanted to post it for the ass bleeding nousagi

[Anonymous No.]

Today's episode of HoloEN vs HoloJP Nijicope series: Gura vs Pekora VOD views battle.

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>>12810538
They probably want it to be clippable so they will make it rain

[Anonymous No.]

>>12810463
>t. nousagi coping hard that Gura's surpassed Pekora in almost every way

[Anonymous No.]

>>12810538
nigga it hasnt started

[Anonymous No.]

Are we still going on about Pekora and Gura? Why not speculate about Pekora's FFXIV numbers tomorrow?
https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1458459849356840963
It's an MMO that starts SUPER slow so I'm guessing 25k.

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>>12810517
this is what is restricting her channel though, she gets paid from nip ads and only nip views are counted as high quality views, changing it to US would fix it and even give her more money because of retarded nip taxes but oh well, cover hates success

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>>12810487
I wonder what sort of tea she will spill on TT, because that might be the end o Cover as we know it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12810591
$2000 before the stream started isn't eye popping. I was expecting at least $15k for the whole stream.

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>>12810546
I mean, look at views gained over the same period of time, that's what the dude was arguing that Pekora gained more views per day which is correct, and it's also correct that Gura's VOD average is better than Gura's, and I say this as one of her members. The shark is lazy, it is known.

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>>12810580
I'm not a nousagi. I don't watch the rabbit. I just know her shit because it's everywhere.

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>>12810598
Damn. She's the first one playing it? Let's see

[Anonymous No.]

>>12810637
Total views is irrelevant when it comes to measuring popularity, average is a better indicator.

[Anonymous No.]

Quick question, are 22/7 even considered vtubers anymore? They seem to do mostly IRL stuff these days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12810598
i'm more curious how her experience will be since the TF2 stream went ok

[Anonymous No.]

>>12810487
Anon. I think Kson has more tact than those bitter leeches

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>>12810637
I just hate that nousagi, pretty sure I know who he is on facebook, he feeds shitty underaged SEAniggers to spread hate towards Gura

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>>12810017
>Mori
>a flop by any metric
I know she is a mess of a streamer and "ruins collabs" memes often make the rounds, but you can't call her of all people a flop. I'm fairly certain that she could upstage even a Miku concert if she put her mind to it.

As for >>12809732, it's highly uncertain because music consumption behavior nowadays doesn't lend itself to album sales to begin with (especially in the west). At least she isn't a one-hit-wonder, which would be the worst position to be in.

Captcha: SYNG2

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>>12810704
Mods will ban anyone who disturbs Pekora.
They don’t want a repeat of asmongold fiasco.

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>>12810617
Don't be retarded, she threatened legal action when matome sites tried to turn her words against Hololive.

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>>12810701
sally...

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>>12810617
She defends Cover and threatened to sue anyone who twisted her words into saying they were a bad company.
She’s very likely still getting merch revenue from Coco merch sales as well.

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>>12810724
also, he specially comes to the numbers thread to get help from nijiniggers, he's hated on global and not even nijiniggers want to talk about Gura on their globals, it's one of his only places left

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>>12810638
So is Gura's and on a greater scale because she's actually global instead of being nip-only.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12810818
Are you taking about ENschizo?

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>>12809060
free chat and mengen scs cause quite some pain to my numberfagging heart...
i alone donated 400+$ to my oshis mengens but alas playboard will never show it

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>>12810598
Why are you guessing low, Pekora and first time playing, should break 30k like usual, 36k if Im being low.

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>>12810818
>>12810724
Oh.
Well.
Tfw you're so schizo you get recognized on 4chan and tied to your Facebook account...
>>12810617
You're an idiot, here's a (you).
She'd more likely just shut them down and give them a very long stare if they tried to start any shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12810969
As a XIV veteran, the beginning of XIV is the most boring shit imaginable. I'll watch it anyways cause I love the rabbit

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>>12810787
Uh her plushie was only behind Suisei who was generating minimum $400,000 revenue in the first week alone. She still might come back at some point for a quick buck and they are still selling her merch. She also lives with Kanata who was nursing her with drinks and jellies while she had a fever. She has absolutely no reason to torpedo Cover and lot of reasons not to

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>>12811004
I would assume that her fans dont know all of the game she plays, so if it is a 1st time of anything it would get high number. Subsequent will be low except the finale.

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>>12811004
Oh yea, gods the first 10-15 hours of ARR are slow as fuck, and apparently she's just playing it ahead of her sponsorship for the game. I don't expect her to touch it again after unless she gets like 40k viewers, indicating that there's real interest for her to continue.

[Anonymous No.]

Any of you numberfags tracking Sana's return stream SCs?

[Anonymous No.]

Shion opening strong for tomorrow

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>>12811199
Don’t worry, Hololyzer and Playboard got your back

[Anonymous No.]

>>12811199
who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12810228
>Kson on Chaturbate
Big Numbers.
Big Influencers.

Will the numbers be big enough to make KSon consider solo streaming on the website?
Will 18+ Japanese vtuber agencies like PPP, HLive and Masquerade be watching? Will it be enough to sway them to start streaming on CB?

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>364,308円
This is depressingly bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12811300
nijien killer

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>>12811199
She is already back to her #2 spot and she only streamed for 10 minutes
What the fuck is the rest of council doing?

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>>12811365
>nijien killer
She’s stealing that job from Wave 3 now?

[Anonymous No.]

Nenechi.....

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>>12811464
Wave 3 is stealing the job from Anycolor now?

[Anonymous No.]

One of these is not like the others…

[Anonymous No.]

>>12811464
Yea, they couldn't even do that right.
>>12811450
Apparently not baiting SC. It's actually impressive how anti-SC council is. I blame Gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12811489
She sung in another anime ED?
Is it censored in the chink version?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12811489
what anime?

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>>12811567
I hate how anti SCs they are. They're literally stealing from Cover by not panhandling. It fills me with nothing but rage.
>>12811464
Wave 3 killed nothing.

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>>12811803
Ansatsu Kizoku

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If only they tried during the EOP boom

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>>12811824
Why are they stealing from Cover? Isnt it more ethical to not try to pander and exploit your fans for money? I hardly can see how someone like Ina or Suisei is bad because they deter SC earning. If anything that should be admirable.

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>>12811909
YT bonked the shot outta them just before the boom unfortunately.

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>>12811979
Is bad for US numberfags.
The holomembers make enough money

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>>12811979
>in the numbers thread
>not wanting max big numbers
NGMI

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>>12811979
If they had merch, and directed their fans to buy that, I'd agree, but right now there isn't any merch, so they really should be doing a bit more in trying to engage fans to SC.
Oh well.

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>if only they-

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>>12811979
Ethics aren't money.
Money are numbers.
SCs are some of the only money we can count.

They are getting numbers far below what they could get with a little bit more hustle and it grieves me. I do not care about the quality of the company or the talents.

>If anything that should be admirable.
You can't eat admiration.

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>>12812074
ARGH IT BURNS. WHY MUST YOU CURSE US SO?!

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>>12812058
They have merch coming up and they already had debut merch.
Even Yagoo didn’t really care too much about SC back in January.

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>>12812114
If they need money, then they would do that. If they dont, then they have enough and dont want to exploit fans, simple as that. I know this is the number thread, but something like deterring SC shouldnt be considered bad.
Well, you dont need to eat admiration if you already have enough money anyway.

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>>12812117
I know they have merch coming up plus the debut tapestry, but honestly, a bit more SC baiting couldn't hurt, if only to keep their gachikoi engaged...

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>>12812058
Council are just dumbasses, but it's not like anyone is obligated to superchat them anyway. That money can be spent better elsewhere.

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>>12812147
If they are so adamant of not getting SCs why not just have it off completely??

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>>12812199
Of course not, but just compare council to IRyS...

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>>12812147
>but something like deterring SC shouldnt be considered bad.
Why? It's numbers people aren't getting. I don't care if they're "good people" who don't "exploit" their mentally inept fans. I will never forgive Ame and Ina for being so anti SCs.

>>12812192
>engaged
This. These streamers are competing with netflix, games, football etc. They need to keep their brand entertainment at the top of many people's heads. Engagement is a way to do this.

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>>12812074
Soulsborne permissions are wasted on these 2viewshitters....

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>>12812239
I have only seen Irys really bait SCs once during an ASMR stream saying that a haircut is $50. Most of the time she also says to not push your wallet and such. But she is the type to read her SCs every stream except when it's a collab. Even if her stream has already lasted for 6hrs long she will still stay for an hour to read them thus the gachis have become attached to her.

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>>12810598
>>12811004
Hopefully she will have at least one mod with her

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>>12810739
>asmongold fiasco.
QRD me on this?

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>>12812338
She also reads red SCs even when she's playing if it catches her eye so there's that too I guess.

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>>12810739
>They don’t want a repeat of asmongold fiasco.
Weren't they pretty quick in solving that with some bans?

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>>12812302
>permissions
>not even monetized
sony...

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>>12812405
>Be Asmongold, THE WOW streamer
>Try out FFXIV because friends convince me and shadowlands is SHIT
>Get trolled by a bunch of asshats who bodyblock NPCs using big mounts and kill mobs required for quest advancement
>GMs in panic and consult with superiors on if they should smite these assholes
>Superiors say 'safeties off', GMs unleash holy smiting upon asshats and permabans issued
>Remaining time playing FFXIV much improved once trolls get spooked

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>>12812223
Im not insinuating that they completely dont need the money, Im just saying that the fact they dont bait mean they have enough already.
I have good finance but if someone gifts me cash for whatever occasion, I would still receive it. I wont go out of my way to beg or being a desperate person to get more.

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>>12812520
a game where mods actually care? maybe I will try it

[Anonymous No.]

many such cases

[Anonymous No.]

Choco asmr buff is pretty impressive 1.5k to 9k

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>>12812603
Choco's asmr used to be her main weapon, sadlly yt being a bitch didn't help

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>>12812532
SCs, Merch and Spons money are what fuels personal projects for talents. Suisei doesn't read them because she prefers they buy her music or merch. Good enough. Ina would be the same since she does release merch semiregularly. However, if any of the new talents like council want to get an EP going with highly produced MV, they will need to milk it. Watame gets really high SCs but she also in return dishes out products that her fans can see. It's give and take.

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>>12812567
Free trial up to the end of Heavensward (1st expansion). Just note that the game is more "Final fantasy" than MMO in its story, and the base game, while not 'bad', is a bit slow.

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>>12812697
I wonder why she doesnt do it more often clearly there is interest even for this nerfed version

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>>12812709
That reminds me of how Watame seems to really want to sell oppai mousepads but management wouldn't okay it.

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>>12812814
Thought she had… other avenues to do asmr that do pretty well.

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>>12812709
Obviously, there are other avenues to earn money. Im just saying that, from a behavior standpoint, the fact they dont try to milk mean they get enough. We cant know all behind the scene anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

the money council loses in restricting scs they make up in new memberships. Otherwise Cover wouldnt let them do it - same way they dont even try for non-monetize perms for example

[Anonymous No.]

>>12813061
>non-monetize perms
GTAV

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>>12812979
You are missing the point. "getting enough" is only good when you just want to survive. Most of these girls want to do more than that. Mumei, Kronii and Bae all wants to have their own music and such. Fauna wants to have her own ASMR studio. They have goals. Your alternate avenues isn't really gonna show up just yet because they are obviously just starting. They have to rely on SCs if they want to push out more content. JFC I hate Kiara but I have to give it up to her because she dishes out a lot of content and commissions a lot of shit.

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>>12812904
Yeah, but why not do on both? She propably would get some converts from new people

[Anonymous No.]

>>12812338
Her haircuts were $250 in her first ASMR which was a bit much for me at the time. It was smart to lower it to $50.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12812979
Or they're not comfortable doing it. You can get a better deal on a car by negotiating the price but a lot of people just pay the sticker price because they don't like haggling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12813198
Well. I heard your ear got cut. I'm glad you didn't sue or anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12813114
Or this anon point is also good enough.>>12813232
Not everyone is comfortable with the idea of exploiting their fanbase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12813114
>his best example is kiara of all people
anon give up. Sc is simply insignificant when compared to their other sources of revenue. Doubling it is like doubling your 20 dollars. It wont pay for any of the big bills, and in exchange can get them a lot of more stress with bait messages or "im gonna kill myself if you ever stop" shitters

[Anonymous No.]

>>12813321
That might be how they rationalize it, but accepting SCs is not exploitation and it's something that paying viewers actually like, but of course it creates more work for the chuuba.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12813321
exploiting is only really usable when you don't see anything being produced or created. Mori for one constantly creates new music. Kiara is the same OGs and covers. Ame with her VR stuff. If you are just going to sit on that money then yes it is exploitation but then again people that shower Rushia money is probably showering her for the kayfabe. They are getting their money's worth. But even then that girl had a 3D concert and a cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12813321
>Not everyone is comfortable with the idea of exploiting their fanbase.
One more reason I admire Rushia with my full heart, even not having her as my oshi.
She has no qualms to allow her fanbase to donate their daily wages to her even if she doesn't pressure them into doing it.
>she just question the undying love of those who don't, but in a triple indirect way that is completely inconspicuous

Same reason I admire Ayame, but she is even more efficient, she puts her audience through a fine sieve to ensure they get on the other side barely alive, feeling satisfied and without any valuables left to donate to other girls in her long absence

[Anonymous No.]

>12813433
this retard is baiting if it wasnt clear enough for any of you

[Anonymous No.]

>>12813397
>"im gonna kill myself if you ever stop"
You are going to the extreme just prove your point. You know for a fact that the girls you gave as an example like Ina do not actually even have projects as expensive that needs back routes to be funded. Suisei releases merch to have hers funded. She does 3D concerts as well. These council have nothing. Memberships are also cut btw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12813487
I'm most definitely not, if you don't see the beauty of maximizing numbers you may be in the wrong thread

[Anonymous No.]

No more dislikes apparently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12813537
Youtube gets shittier and shittier by the day

[Anonymous No.]

>>12813397
They can live without it but they are definitely not insignificant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12813521
Personal merch btw are semi-funded by the talents themselves. That's why Mori was able to go all out with Merch and people like Anya can only afford a fucking tote bag for hers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12813422
To be honest, with this many answers, I guess it is not exploitation. If so, those Twitch thots that people usually dislike, are they exploiting their fans? by showing cleavages and stuffs. Their fans also are just giving money to them for contents (tits, moan, RP, etc) in those cases.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12813537
kek, that will just move the trolling from dislikes to leaving a nasty comment.
When they tune the bot to remove the nasty comment it will just turn to
>leave an ironic positive comment

Wasn't it what happened with some game, that removed all comments except for a pre approved set of messages, giving birth to
>gg no re
?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12813563
Uncle Joe was getting too many dislikes, please understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12813596
I don't understand how it can be insignificant. Top SC earners in EN get at least as much from SCs as they get from memberships.

[Anonymous No.]

NijiEN Minecraft

[Anonymous No.]

>>12813650
What are you fucking watching??? You can't get in Hololive if you are simply going to exist with your tits exposed. Most of these girls got in because they proposed what they wanted to do. You can watch all their debuts to know what they want to do with their careers

[Anonymous No.]

>>12813537
Makes sense from a business standpoint. Shouldn't have been there in the first place. Why put something that could dissuade someone from wasting time on a video?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12813707
HoloID minecraft for comparison

[Anonymous No.]

>>12813707
She should've waited to join ID3

[Anonymous No.]

Just let those who don't encourage SCs see their dwindling numbers. Simple as that. If they don't care then viewers will not as well. Once they realize it's too late, it will be all over. These people live with a silver spoon so no one will feel sad they jave less money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12813664
They are not especially for the holos, it's just poorfags trying to trivialize gachis' contribution.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12813738
Im not saying that, I just want to know that if providing contents and getting money in return means no exploitation, then does that mean what those Twitch thots are doing also fall in the same category, ie not exploiting. It is a question for curiosity sake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12813864
im sure theyll come crying right back to you to tell how wrong they were

[Anonymous No.]

>>12813664
Even Kson said SC is less than 50% of her income.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12813864
ogey retard

[Anonymous No.]

SC might not huge in terms of their income but its part of the "fan interaction" which is a big part of being a streamer.

Also you can Correlate SC to merch sales. Those fans who give you SC are the one who will likely buy your merch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12814120
To be fair that's not really what she said. She said how much she earned in one specific month but between mengens, free chat, and Mildom donations we have no idea how much of that exactly she got from donations that month.

[Anonymous No.]

>mel getting 5.4k at this hour

[Anonymous No.]

>>12814120
Less 50% doesn't mean insignificant. It's like saying $10000 is insignificant to me because I earn $50000

[Anonymous No.]

>>12814328
With a gook superchat on top of that

[Anonymous No.]

>>12814269
It’s why Hololivers tell you to not donate if you can’t. They always advocate buying their merch/music instead if you really want to spend money on them.
NijiJP is probably the same, NijiEN needs SC to survive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12814269
lol on the contrary, the more merch you have the less money youll make from scs as they have other and better options

[Anonymous No.]

>>12814377
Did you not read my post. SC is also type of fan interaction. Alot of retarded fans wants to see chuuba read their message.

[Anonymous No.]

> only 586,771円 on comeback stream
I guess it was too long.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12813915
Anon. They are paying to see the tits jiggle. They are online hookers. You actually don't have to fuck hookers. You can give them tips for their entertainment. Why is that exploitation? Holo Girls don't fall into that because they do provide content. I'm only saying that personal projects are solely funded by their fans. Watame for one used all her BD SCs to fund her MVs. SCs and spons are what they use to fund their merch as well that they release on birthdays and milestones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12814523
did you add the unarchived karaoke?

[Anonymous No.]

>12814511
>12814550
Anon, just fuck off already

[Anonymous No.]

>>12814557
There are no SCs for unarchived karaoke as a rule.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12814377
Not every chuuba has an original song or merch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12814377
All vtubers (including NijiEN) tell their viewers to not donate if they can't afford it. It's about as standard of a line as stream welcome and goodbye lines.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12814557
>>12814523
To add to this she only gained 300 new members.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12814570
SCs are a main push for many starting chuubas especially in Holos. A lot of their shit are not paid by Cover. The only people that can survive without spons for a long time with no scs are people with real jobs like Ina and Sana or Reine who is already rich. Do you everyone of them releasing original music?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12814497
I don't know about that anon. Gen 3 gets alot of merch since cover knows their fans will buy it just by looking at their SC.

Lets take Subaru for example. She is very popular member but her SC is not as high. She gets nendo which is cool but gen 3 gets nendo, popup, figma and figure(only marine).

[Anonymous No.]

>>12814693
Lamy got her own premium sake

[Anonymous No.]

>>12814768
That was a product that she personally pursued though, and she put up the cash required for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12813529
Being a numberfag and being a numbernigger are not the same thing, anon.
Focus too much on numbers, and you'll be another pomu-koshien-nigger with your retardation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12814796
Which is even more impressive. She invested her money on the right thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>12813529
The beauty of maximining numbers is that you don't have to use one method to do it

[Anonymous No.]

>>12814693
lol and merch funded by Cover is not the best option if you want to support your oshi directly, since they get a cut from it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12814924
Chuuba funded merchandise definitely gets the lowest cut though thus they are also the kost expensive for any chuuba to burden.

[Anonymous No.]

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>55,952: Njisanji (Nijisanji)
>48,573: Marine (Hololive)
>35,672: Njisanji (Nijisanji)
>31,115: Pekora (Hololive)
>30,127: Pekora (Hololive)
>29,427: Mio (Hololive)
>19,193: Fubuki (Hololive)
>18,646: Rushia (Hololive)
>18,055: Watame (Hololive)
>15,874: Gatchaman (Indie)
>15,562: Gura (Hololive)
>14,950: Sana (Hololive)
>10,625: Kiara (Hololive)
>10,586: Kiara (Hololive)
>10,382: Kanata (Hololive)

Was waiting for the thread to be over but it seems it will last another hour or so

[Anonymous No.]

>>12815046
....rest of Nijisanji doko?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12815046
Even if Nijisan won the day, that is a fucking sad list for them..

[Anonymous No.]

>>12815046
did they forbid nijis to stream today?

[Anonymous No.]

It's over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12815100
Dislikes no longer visible at all, was posted earlier on thread yea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12815046
Congratulations to nijisanji. They deserve this win lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>12815100
Yeah, these changes always come with "adjustements" in the pruning algorithms and AI as well.

Expect more fuckery on the CCVs, subs and VODs

[Anonymous No.]

>>12815094
nope, they just did poorly, but still a lot of streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>12815046
This list is missing Shion

[Anonymous No.]

>>12815100
Wouldnt this at least help out some holos like Aqua or Fubuki who get dislike bombed by the antis?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12815104
>>12815104
>>12815104
Migrate when ready

[Anonymous No.]

>>12815155
Shion started after midnight JST

[Anonymous No.]

>>12810228
If she starts using making that sort of content, I will watch 1 stream, then unmember and unsub.

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>>12815169
They'll just move to dislike bomb the pinned comment, or leave nasty message, or leave positive message in an ironic fashion

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>>12815046
Kuzuha prevented a clean Holo swipe
And the dude couldn't even claimed it
Niji, why

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>>12815192
They’re just playing a porn game aren’t they

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>>12815169
I'm not even sure that dislikes affect the algorythm to be honest. Nonetheless the channel owners can still see them, I'd be curious to see whether dislikebombs would continue or not if it isn't public.

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>>12815169
the pitiful dislike "bombing" on aqua or fbk have no effect on them. But now shitty and misleading clickbait videos will get even more views

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>>12815224
They count as engagement, but for that purpose they're the same as dislikes.
This change will likely decrease it some, if only because some people disliked solely to see the dislike counter go up.

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>>12815249
Do people actually watch a clip or clickbait vids because of the Like counts? I thought people click on a video to watch either because it is interesting to them via title, thumbnail, or high amount of views, not Like.

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>>12815046

Niji won but holy shit the Holo spam is so funny to see. if this had slipped it would be legendary

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>>12815377
I think he meant that some people use the dislike count to see if a vid is shit before actually watching it.

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>>12815377
>searching from x clip from y series
>open the first one you find
>100% dislikes
>close instantly
that wont work anymore

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>>12815046
2 of the top three and no meme buff games. I call it a thorough Nijisanji win.

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>>12815733
>even the "honorary niji" shitposter is struggling to come up with something
lmao