Saving Matsuri General

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any way to save Matsuri from herself? It feels like she just doesn’t care about herself anymore and does things with thinking for the consequences. And how do we stop her from being a menhera? There has to be a some treatment for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12728904
Ayame collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12728904
Have her win a tournament with Astel an Towerp

[Anonymous No.]

What about kidnapping ?
We all take a flight to Japan, with her 890 twitter, someone probably know where she live. Then we enslaved her, we keep her in a basement in wich she will stream, and every other days, somes of the anons here take relay to 'educate' and 'help' her.
Then after some years, she will love all of us, she will be satisfied with the sex, and all the menhera thing will be restrained.
What do you say for my perfect plan ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12729142
Had me until the sex part

[Anonymous No.]

>>12729142
Anon I don’t want to restrain her. I want her to live in the same place as me and be free to move whenever and wherever she wants. I want to live with the everlasting fear of never knowing when she’ll shank me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12729142
This just leads to her being more menhera, fucking amateur

[Anonymous No.]

>>12728904
You can't help her if she doesn't want to help herself. Getting too attached to someone like that will just drag you down with them. It's why Matsuri's mother kicked her out of her home when she tried to corrupt her little brother

[Anonymous No.]

>>12731962
Source? How did she corrupt him?

[Anonymous No.]

Luna tried. But then Matsuri got too attached and she got burnt out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12733484
Luna should apologize to Matsuri for being a bad friend/lover. They were so cute together, I don’t know why Luna had to abandon Matsuri.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12728904
fucking faggot quit you do this every other day

[Anonymous No.]

>>12728904
>we
No one here needs to be responsible for the behavior of a grown woman. You're just as much of a menhera as her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12729307
Okay I will imprison you in the same cell as her

[Anonymous No.]

>>12737247
Matsuri keeps chasing Hoshikawa cunt when she already has Luna. That's why she left the menhera

[Anonymous No.]

Wait are luna and matsuri not friends anymore?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12733484
I'll never forgive Matsuri for drunk calling Luna and trying to force her to break character on stream

Just look at Luna now, staying true to her character and dedicated to her job bore fruit while Matsuri slips closer and closer to emergence, just like she deserves to

[Anonymous No.]

Why can't you bastards leave my oshi alone, she doesn't need any saving at all. She's been a menhera from the start and is still here.

[Anonymous No.]

Let the Apexfags save her, they're the only remaining Matsurisus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12740215
Anon, Matsuri is sick in the head, she needs help and she needs someone to save her. Don’t be in denial of this. It won’t help her.

[Anonymous No.]

Luna broke her

[Anonymous No.]

>>12728904
I think she need to do more collab and faggots to clip her
Clip = numbers = attention = confidence = not being a menhera

[Anonymous No.]

>>12744158
Why is she like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12728904
>Saving Matsuri
be it bait or autistic concern it's boring to repeat the same question over and over, at leat with Ayame the number of days since her last stream keeps increasing, but with Matsuri there is nothing new, just the same pasta/argument shit again and again.
Jesus anon, you are like reddit killing the meme by repeating it ad infinitum, add something new schizo, be creative, put more effort and make an interesting thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>12747802
Imagine not wanting to save a woman who’s lost and in need of help. Why are you like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12748359
i'm not criticizing your bait retard anon, but the quality, your thread is shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>12744158
Jesus, is she still hung up over Luna? Why hasn’t she moved on already?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12750672
Because while Matsuri thought Luna needed her help it was actually Matsuri that needed Luna the most

[Anonymous No.]

>>12728904
I genuinely think that ONLY thing that would unironically save her is if her Gen became more connected, that would give her a place to belong rather than being a wanderer trying to fit into other cliques, which is what strengthened her menhera tendencies.
Though sadly that will probably NEVER happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12751235
But, anon, you don’t understand. Marine tried. Fubuki tried. And Luna tried. They both got burnt for their troubles. It's cliche as fuck but ultimately Matsuri needs to help herself. As long as she doesn't take the initiative and make steps to improve, she'll continue to be a menhera.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12744158
I genuinely wonder how Matsuri’s break up with Luna affected her. It’s like Matsuri can’t let go, yet knows Luna will never be close to her ever again. And not to mentions Matsuri keeps seeing Luna be happy with other people while ignore her. Not to mention she keeps tweeting how she and Luna are besties in her dreams. I legitimately wonder if she’s just in denial and thinks Luna would come around and be friends with her again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12728923
Fubuki will not allow this to happen

[Anonymous No.]

fucking jannies need to nuke this general already, i've seen the same timelooped samefag posts for months now..

[Anonymous No.]

>>12754967
>for months now..
This General ain’t even a month old yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12740648
There’s nothing wrong with apex. She’s improving.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12757011
It's a shit game not even the japanese like. There's a reason it's dead everywhere but Japan, where it's just dying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12753949
Anon I assure you this is something she has always wanted, she always wanted to make more song collabs, more concerts, more off collabs and more of just being friends, which is why she tried to get closer to Luna, to fubuki, to haachama, to marine... And the list goes on and on and on.
Its pretty obvious that she wanted a place to belong, and she'll never get that of she keeps being her as you said but that doesn't mean it's always Matsuri's fault either, I'm not really a huge fan of her but I do like her regardless as much as I like other Gen 1 girls with the exception of my oshi who'll always be number one in my eyes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12728904
fuck her silly

[Anonymous No.]

>>12757278
She'd probably shank you silly instead, the guy from the hand incident still hasn't been found

[Anonymous No.]

>>12759826
He’s in jail. He was an intruder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12760346
>He was an intruder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12728904
She's got a terminal case of the baby crazies.

I just need to inject my semen directly into her womb to cure it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12760346
He was an intruder that just went お邪魔します directly into her pussy

[Anonymous No.]

>>12728904
We don't need two generals for this whore.

OP is a far worse schizo than the marineschizo and the tatsunokoschizo combined.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12760346
>>12760475
>>12760605

Anal intruder

[Anonymous No.]

>>12757214
>Its pretty obvious that she wanted a place to belong, and she'll never get that of she keeps being her as you said but that doesn't mean it's always Matsuri's fault either,
I feel like her just being a creep turns people off. Not to mention the sexual harassment she does to others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12760475
He was.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12738257
No, Matsuri did something that angered Luna and no longer friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12763060
>He's serious

[Anonymous No.]

bros how do we save her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12728904
can't decide who needs saving more. Matsuri or Haachama. imo they're both on thin ice rn

[Anonymous No.]

>>12761427
Didn't she also have a collab recently with some EN slut that literally nobody liked because of how she harassed her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12764883
>haachama
>saving
Actual fucking newfag, wow

[Anonymous No.]

Is this Stage 2 or Stage 3?

メイド服と猫耳と学生服を買いました。

近々ファンボックスやらでお見せします

[Anonymous No.]

>>12764859
We have to support her emotionally and get her a therapy and make she she takes her meds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12764883
Haachama is experimenting with mania, she's like a sommelier of blain problems. If she stops liking it she'll graduate and get a regular job. Matsuri is actually sick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12770862
Sounds like a coverup. Haachama needs to be saved to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12748454
Yeah, op could at least try a new angle

[Anonymous No.]

>>12738257
They are, but this thread is for shitposting. If you're gullible, you should stay away. If not, have fun with it

[Anonymous No.]

>>12728904
>it feels like she just doesnt care about herself anymore
That's pretty common for girls with boyfriends

[Anonymous No.]

>>12764859
We can't. she's hated in japan. There's nothing we could do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12778263
Wait what? If it's a hate list, why is Fubuki ranked 4? And Towa 6???
Makes sense that they would hate haachaamaa though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12778512
Not him, but maybe they’re tired of Fubuki’s saviourfaging? Don’t know about Towa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12768187
Didn't think we'd already get this far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12778904
This is an old picture a bit after towa got exposed for the whole men in discord thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12779534
>towa got exposed for the whole men in discord thing.
I thought people were still bothered by it? You know, whole idol interacting with male.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12781159
Considering Towa stopped panderign to the EOP's a while ago i doubt her nip fanbase still cares.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12781237
She's pretty hated in Japan and her fanbase is mostly english speakers still, I really doubt it's going to change at this point after the yabee incident and the old roommate stuff that surfaced scandals

[Anonymous No.]

>>12778263
Idolfags in JP are purists, no wonder why Matuli, friend, Togepi and Sex is hated. Hachaama pandering too much to filthy gaijins so she is hated too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12781335
>She's pretty hated in Japan
no source. delusional rrat

[Anonymous No.]

>>12778512
Collab with males do that to vtuber promoted as idols. It's a price they must pay for sniffing dick cheese

[Anonymous No.]

>>12781421
>One of the slowest growing holos ever
>Surpassed by all of her genmates
>Surpassed by all generations after her
>Can't hold 5k viewers per stream despite all the collab buffs
>Currently has 7 separate anti threads on japanese chans
I also found this old copypasta from when the scandals happened
Towa...I don't get why she gets all the hate on /jp/. Hololive is just made to make her out as the slut, when really she's no worse than any of the 'idols' and a better person than most of them.
What are the main complaints? She masturbated guys on stream and lied about it?
Okay, let's get this straight. She never fucking masturbated guys on stream. She never did it. She never did it. She never did it. She never did it. She just saw them doing it.
Let me ask you this. WHO IN HOLOLIVE DOESN'T WANT TO MASTURBATE MEN? You can't even name one fucking character who wouldn’t want to masturbate their small dicks! hololive Idols are the kind of bitch who will act like they don't want it when they really do. They'll say No! while having multiple orgasms. Towa knew this, she's a fucking man’s lady. She knows what filthy man-whores like her audience want.
And there's this other big bitch you guys have with her. She supposedly lied about it later.
Objection! She was worried about her one and only precious fan. Is keeping your loved ones from heartache so wrong? When Ayame does the same thing to dirty old men for money it's like 'oh she's so womanly', but when Towa does it it's wrong? She just wanted to protect her only fan. She probably was going to study medicine to tighten those guys asses back up or cure their syphilis or something.
The whole project was made to make that slut Ayame look good. Objectively, Towa is a far better character than Ayame. At least she has the balls to take action decisively instead of dicking around like Ayame, and if she weren't stuck with that weak ass personality and no plothax she probably could have fucked the entire cast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12781335
I'm sure she is still disliked to a point but i doubt she would make the top 10 right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12781740
What would your top 10 be? I find it really hard to think about why someone would hate any JP holo aside from Ayame, Towa, Matsuri, Haachama and MAYBE Mel

[Anonymous No.]

>>12781874
Good question, I was thinking of Vtubers in general but i'm having a somewhat hard time, Choco and Aqua definitely. Aqua has huge hate threads 5ch right now. Maybe Pekora for a bit a few months ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12781684
>>Currently has 7 separate anti threads on japanese chans
Jesus, how does it get this bad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12783297
Yeah, Why can't we have good anti threads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12774820
Saving Haachama General?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12737980
Based.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12738502
Did this actually happen and is there video record of it? It sounds funny but also made up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12754967
>I FEEL THE WARP OVERTAKING ME

[Anonymous No.]

Matuli is a walking biohazard, she's going to ruin herself very quickly very soon.
The way she talks with other vtubers genuinely makes me uncomfortable as fuck. Not in a "oh god that's cringe" way but in more of a "holy shit what the fuck is this girl saying I better get the FUCK out of here" kind of way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12774820
>/Saving Matsuri + Haachama general/
That would be fun

[Anonymous No.]

>>12764883
t.not a Haaton
Haachama is way more stable than Matuli, just happens she has a very bad luck (For real because holy shit, her yabs are caused by small distractions)

[Anonymous No.]

>>12789039
When this thread is archive, someone should make that. It would be a better general.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12789039
Just make /saving gen 1 general/ already. I know it will end up being that eventually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12789039
>>12789407
use this picture

[Anonymous No.]

>>12789206
>Haachama is way more stable than Matuli,
Massive doubt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12728904
Ina needs to jump on the bisexual grenade and take one for the team

[Anonymous No.]

>>12793243
Didn’t Matsuri and Ina collab and Matsuri just couldn’t help herself and be a sexual creep?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12793070
Just compare her mengens to others, haachama fake cries and fake laughs all the time but most recently she genuinely cried a bit about the fact that she didn't have the drive to stream all that much again, and that really made her sad because she really enjoys it, and that's pretty much it.
As for some others whom I won't name, crying to their fans about their personal insecurities and depending on their fans in a parasocial way... Yeah those are the ones who need saving.
People who say haachama needs saving are the ones who don't actually watch her, not that wanting to save a chuuba is a bad thing though, there are just better priorities is all

[Anonymous No.]

>>12793243
Not after the collab. Ina demolish Matsuri. I actually felt bad for Matsuri.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800693
>When the innocent answer is devestating

[Anonymous No.]

You'd think that yagoo as a fellow degenerate would do a better job of teaching her not alienate people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12732011
There is a solid chance Matsuri molested her brother at one point in her life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800693
jesas...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800693
>I: I spend it with my family
>I: I spend it alone
Well which it is Ina?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800693
Matuli....

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800693
>matsuritryed to mog Ina
>getting mugged instead
Sasuga squid! i kneel!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12793070
Haachama hasn't threatened anyone with knives like Matsuri has done in the past

[Anonymous No.]

>>12781684
>>Surpassed by all her genmates
Luna...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12728904
A serious answer.

Make a game like Omori about someone struggling with borderline personality disorder and get Matsuri to play it.

I can't commit to making such game, but maybe Lyger can or find people who can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12728904
She should take a hint from haachama and start lewding herself again
The H art review and the cunnytuber collabs she did was the best piece of content in months

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804545
Better yet, she should take an example from Mel and Noel, and start doing lewd NND vids

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804885
She went one step further and made the japanese equivalent of an onlyfans

[Anonymous No.]

>>12793070
Managed to stay sane in Australia when people were being shit to her.
Has friends in Japan, specially Hoshikawa who is avoiding Matsuri like a plague.
Goes to College instead of being a dropout like Shion.
Survived the taiwan yab which made Coco graduate.
I agree that she might be having a hard time this year, too much is happening, but she is too far away from needing someone to save her, she is not an autodestructive girl like Matsuri. Haachama just needs some support, she can do the rest by herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804939
No, she hasn't. The stuff posted there last I checked wouldn't even raise an Amish's eyebrows

[Anonymous No.]

She hasn't recovered since the door incident.

My guess is she gets into very depressive mood anytime she thinks about it and it's driving her insane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805102
I didn't say she was using it like that, just that she made it and people use that platform for nudes

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805143
She certainly hasn't gone one step further than her colleagues then, has she?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804885
You do know Mel has stopped that right? Going forward, the line will be just cute cosplay outfits and nothing further from what she said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805342
I really doubt most other holos would even consider opening a fanbox

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805468
Did she? That's a shame, she had a great ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805512
Fanbox isn't onlyfans, it's like patreon and full of r18 artists.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805539
>>12805468
She didnt. She just stopped ear licking asmr

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805737
She doing anything else for viewers to whack off to?

[Anonymous No.]

>last archived video was in june
Fuck, it's true.

[Anonymous No.]

How far she goes into the OF whore path depends on how well she's economically and how bad her mental health gets as well.
Right now money isn't a problem since she's in hololive. And if she evers starts to struggle she can set the following and get flooded with SCs nonstop
>loli Matsuri
>mamatsuri collab
>apex gacha stream
I always wonder how much she makes, not only taking into account SCs, but also the voice packs, official merchandise and the collaborations she has made in various media.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12806452
She already said her bank account never goes under 5 million yen, if she goes full menhera slut it's just because she wants to

[Anonymous No.]

>>12806037
Actually, no it's not. She hasn't archived anything since June, but she's still doing them. Most recent was 29th Oct.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12728904
Can I request a timeline on how she got to this point and anon being a saviourfag about it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801679
Isn’t Christmas a romantic holiday with couples and not with family?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807881
Only nip-land thinks Father Christmas is a symbol of sexy times and Ina is in Canada.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805093
If anything Haachama is finding that support by focusing on studies and trying to have the normal university experience.

>>12806452
Considering she bought cosplay for it, it would seem that she's gone a step further.

>>12806660
That Vtuber lifestyle isn't too bad after all.

>>12807881
Depends where you live, Japan leans into the couples thing and KFC. In most parts of the West it's usually a family get-together event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12728904
At this point, I just want to see the ship sink.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808032
Which is why I typed it. Maybe Ina wanted to say she spends time with her family and not with a boyfriend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807881
Jesus Christ (and Mitra) were born on this day, it's not about fucking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801431
Kek. Just how mentally ill do you have to be to do shit like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12729142
no way that would work, she replaced all the locks in her house and thighten up security after that stalker got in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12814316
> Stalker
Good one anon, I actually laughed at that one. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12814168
pretty girls can get away with anything and she was pretty for at least a few years now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12737247
>>12738164
Actually from what Matsuri said about it herself she didn't keep some promise and they had a huge fight over it which does sound like they were more than just regular friends, perhaps menhera pushed for it to be more and then wasn't commited enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12814378
Sure sure, but having a sister myself, the single thought of doing anything like that with her triggers some sort of absolute disgust, what’s wrong with her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12808142
>If anything Haachama is finding that support by focusing on studies and trying to have the normal university experience.
I think it can be a good distraction if she can manage to do both things, more or less she did it so it's okay, people expected a lot worse fate for Haachama just months ago. That's why I think she doesn't need to be saved

[Anonymous No.]

>>12814897
None of them need saving. The concerfagging on here is ridiculous

[Anonymous No.]

>>12814316
Yeah I'm sure she'll have to tighten up a lot of things after he was there

[Anonymous No.]

>>12814795
I don't know why not try it and see what happens.

[Anonymous No.]

i suggested pairing with menhera but it got shot down. how about pairing her with a healthy hag? someone like marine or botan

[Anonymous No.]

>>12816610
Just tried, Matuli is based and now my oshi. I will send her a massive supa to thank her for what she has done for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12757011
>There’s nothing wrong with apex.
It's an FPS for starters

[Anonymous No.]

>>12757158
It’s not dead in Japan because they use it for e-dating.

[Anonymous No.]

I drew this. She reminds me a lot of myself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12817389
Botan + Matsuri could be an interesting pairing - they don't have much in common on the surface but they might be able to play off each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12817389
>how about pairing her with a healthy hag?
Already tried with Mio and it was a failure.
https://youtu.be/EH3Zqfb9CYw
https://youtu.be/7bmB_Up7Qls

[Anonymous No.]

>>12820547
Matsuri is so clingy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12814678
Why does Matsuri self-sabotage her relationships?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12823701
She's a menhera. It's in her nature to do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12728904
There's no saving it. We need to wipe the slate clean, BURN IT DOWN!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800693
Why is she like this? Why was she trying to pick a fight with Ina of all people? Was she trying to assert her own dominance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12825829
And from the ashes, a new Matsuri will be born. Yab-free, but untamed!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12828883
Just like during her debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12765118
Do what now? Never heard of Matsuri collating with any ENs outside of Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12814795
Matsuri is a menhera, and is fairly clingy. A terrible mix.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12835205
What made her into a menhera in the first place? I thought she said she has a nice childhood.

[Anonymous No.]

Does she even care about Matsuri?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801321
>>12801523
>>12801679
>>12802260
>>12802317
>>12828049
Why are you all so fucking retards ffs???? the first thing you all did was project and thought that Matsuri didn't have anybody to spend christmas?? she didn't want to comment about it, because it was better to avoid all the menhera atacks by hurt unicorns and seethings cucks like all of (You)

[Anonymous No.]

>>12838528
Then why did she ask the question in the first place?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12839961
so everything you say is calculated? most of the time you just open your mouth and whatever comes out of it

[Anonymous No.]

>>12837307
>Matsuri
>nice childhood
If you call sleeping with a knife under your pillow and pulling it out on your mom threatening to stab her a nice childhood... Then idk what to tell you anon.
>>12838528
No that was not my first thought, it was just as you said, she avoided the question because she knows she's gonna go out and get dick, that's pretty much the only thing keeping her fairly sane

[Anonymous No.]

>>12839961
By proving she can ask the question and get away with it

[Anonymous No.]

>>12768187
Goddamn that 100$ fanbox looking more and more attractive every week

[Anonymous No.]

>>12841559
Please stop trying to gaslight EOP newfags into thinking that knife joke was a thing that actually happened, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12842321
Stop ruining the fun anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>12842321
>>12842381
Being this much in denial?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12778263
Why the hate on Matsuri so suddenly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12843826
>suddenly
Eh ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12843826
>suddenly
Rumao rumao
>>12842603
Whether it's true or not doesn't matter, it's fun to think about regardless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12843870
>>12844198
Has she always been hated?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12845327
It became stronger after the hachama spergout and the za hando incident

[Anonymous No.]

>>12845928
>hachama spergout
But Hachama was in the wrong for that? She ghosted Matsuri. How can Matsuri be blamed for that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12846004
People have it out for matsuri.

[Anonymous No.]

can you no-life autists stop timelooping?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12847655
If this general truly dies I'll completely forget about her and I don't want to miss her fall deeper and do porn

[Anonymous No.]

>>12846004
People would've reacted differently have Matsuri actually dealt with the situation like a grown ass woman rather than a triggered high school girl.
The bigger person in this situation was haachama and that speaks fucking volumes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12728904
I don't think there're enough saviour fags on /vt/ want to save her. Za hando made many think she's a whore and must not come close to their oshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>12846004
Publicly having a meltdown on your corporate Twitter account regarding a personal dispute is very unprofessional behavior, even if Haachama was in the wrong here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12848847
The hand incident really was a turning point, there were a lot of different guys on twitter saying they hooked up with her every month and everyone thought they were just antis or something, but now everyone doubts if they were telling the truth or not after pretty much seeing it happen on camera

[Anonymous No.]

>>12849058
>there were a lot of different guys on twitter saying they hooked up with her every month and everyone thought they were just antis
as if all of them aren't getting dicked regularly lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>12849193
1/10 bait; brings nothing new to the table, try it during HoloEN discussion

[Anonymous No.]

>>12849618
how is it bait? you seriously think that grown women who are sociable enough to get jobs as entertainers are going to sit home all day and never date anyone? I mean some of them were literally camwhores previously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12849793
Rushia...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12849793
We know which ones are and aren't whores, there's a reason people hate the confirmed ones like Matsuri and Towa and love kusohikkineets that go out once a month like Pekora

[Anonymous No.]

>>12849880
>We know which ones are and aren't whores,
you literally don't know anything dude. you have zero personal connection to these people. the only window you have into their lives are from livestreams where they play a fictional character.
you even said yourself that prior to the hand incident people thought claims of matsuri getting railed were just trolling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12849880
>We know which ones are and aren't whores

[Anonymous No.]

>>12846004
But she sperged publicly on Twitter while Chammers was still in her hiatus coping about Coco, thanks coco her she returned in august instead of late October.

[Anonymous No.]

Matsuri is getting close to 1k live viewers in this apex tournament.

[Anonymous No.]

There's more viewers waiting for Haachama going to the EN server than viewers watching Matsuri play apex, let that sink in

[Anonymous No.]

>>12850099
EVERYONE is streaming over Kotone’s birthday stream, even Sora.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12849981
That's why Za hando was a really big meltdown to begin with, because Matsuri did her act well enough to convince people that she didn't have an active sexual life

[Anonymous No.]

>>12850155
Apex will end her career, take a screenshot to this

[Anonymous No.]

>>12849981
People believed Matsuri because she was constantly talking about how lonely she is and how she hadn't had a boyfriend the last 10 years, that's also why the meltdown was so huge after the incident and her fanbase of lonely neets who wanted to marry her basically disappeared

[Anonymous No.]

>>12850237
I thought her whole shtick is that she's a turboslut jirai girl. Her persona is a cheerleader afterall, and cheerleaders get dicked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12850175
yeah exactly, that's why it's delusional to think that none of the others are in the same boat when the only possible information you have to make that determination comes from the women themselves. Both of the incidents with matsuri and towa were unplanned accidents, completely different from a story delivered directly from the person who knows it's in their financial best interest to keep any part of their romantic life hidden.

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>>12850327
especially considering how many of them take extended breaks due to supposed medical issues lmao. apparently cover employs some of the most sickly people on earth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12850155
There are more people watching Reine play Minecraft than there are watching Matsuri play Apex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12850323
That's just the base for her character, she never really acted like a cheerleader and she decided her name because she went to a Matsuri one (1) time (once) when she was little

[Anonymous No.]

>>12850376
K-korone wouldn't do that right?...

[Anonymous No.]

I love her a lot but I only want to draw her hurt. She's in her most beautiful self when she wears the mascaras of her genuine tears, and when she's in a panic, losing control, and on the verge of doing something that she'll regret, risking wrecking what she has got going for her.

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>>12850439
She's 33, unmarried and has to take care of her very elder grandmother. Not a single Japanese would touch her irl considering 25 and unmarried is already bad and past 29 women are worthless

[Anonymous No.]

>>12850416
This is kinda out of blue but Reine means queen in french.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12850327
Honestly I tend to not believe most of the people when they are talking about their personal life except just a bunch of them. For example Subaru "past life" with her house burnt and health issuea who gets recruited because she had passion sounds like a fucking anime story, not speaking about if her house were burned it's absolutely sure there would be some notices about it on the newspaper or internet, but there is nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12850564
Korosan eggs' expiration date...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12850327
look, anyone can cheat, even if you live with them. and if they get caught, you just dump them and move on.

[Anonymous No.]

How long do you think her relationships last? And, what's the female male partners ratio?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12850427
What about the turboslut jirai girl part?

[Anonymous No.]

Sorry I've tried finding it myself but can people explain the hand incident ?

or at least direct me somewhere that documents the drama?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12850648
I swear I can make her happy.

[Anonymous No.]

Matsuri has less than 1k live viewers let's go

[Anonymous No.]

>>12850749
Just look up Matsuri hand on YT. And she referred to the "burglar" as a guy in her tweet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12850804
She never once specified who or what the gender of the intruder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12850793
She pulls around 5k to 7k in her last singing stream iirc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12850629
Not everything that happens goes into the news, and trying to find a single house fire news that maybe wasn't even in Tokyo would be hard as fuck.
It's already hard trying to find newspaper issues from 2015, imagine trying to find something from like 2005 looking for something that specific that maybe wasn't even reported or only made it to a local newspaper. Even if you somehow managed to compile every single news that involved fire from that timeframe you'd never know if you found Subaru's anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>12850827
Man, /jp/ thread has been feeding me bullshit if that's the actual case. I've been coping by telling myself that she might have a girlfriend, but it was denied.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12850629
Hum, no ?
Do you know how many fire incident there is per year ? In my country several hundreds thousand. Now this stat take all kind of fire incidents, so there is only a small parts of these where a house was destroyed. But that's still a fucking huge number, and no, not all of these appeared in a news paper.
So actually, we can't really know if she was tellikng the truth or not.

[Anonymous No.]

Does Lyger browse 4Chan?

If you are reading this, please make more clips, they are pretty high quality and interesting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12850881
>/jp/ thread has been feeding me bullshit
Wow, what a shocker

[Anonymous No.]

>>12850881
Rule number 1: don't believe everything that was spoonfeed to you by a retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12850924
I know he at least used to, might have left after everyone called him a faggot for being such a faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>12850793
Doesn't really matter unless she cares about prestige or something. Still gets enough money

[Anonymous No.]

>>12850956
>>12850978

Do you guys think that it might have been a girlfriend? I'm okay with the boyfriend narrative but somehow a girlfriend feels more consoling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12850924
Sorry anon, he's too busy cooming in her chat and banning translators to make more translation

[Anonymous No.]

>>12851041
What did he do?

>>12851090
His last clip is like 2 month ago, and when was the last official translation that he did?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12850416
There are more people watching Anya than Matsuri right now, fucking Anya of all people

[Anonymous No.]

>>12851127
It's not really bad if Matsuri isn't too much of a numberfag, with all the Apex, I don't think she is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12851078
Why are you like this? No one knows who it is. She could be lying, or she could be telling the truth. No one fucking knows who that was. Why would it matter if she has a boyfriend, girlfriend, or single anyway? She had three romantic partners in the past. One of them is female and two of them are males.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12850698
Exactly one night
About 90:10 m:f, mostly because she keeps fucking up and just ends up calling up a manslut to get dicked down

[Anonymous No.]

>>12851078
I don't know, and I don't really care, penetrate by a dick or by an object is the same thing.

[Anonymous No.]

I find funny how she put so much autistic dedication and grinding for these apex tournaments. She even stops all her other activities.
And despite all that effort, apex tournaments are easily her worst content by far

[Anonymous No.]

>>12851124
>Stalked Matsuri so obsessively and made so many clips that Youtube's algorithm marked his account as the real one and banned Matsuri's
>Publicized Matsuri's real twitter account, forcing her to close it and make the new one we know about. While doing so she literally told him to not follow her with his account so people don't know, so he made a sub account and made a shadow version of his avatar that changed absolutely nothing, followed himself and Matsuri so everyone knew anyway.
>Started multiple fanbase wars, basically whenever something happened to Matsuri he'd blame the fanbase and make the situation even shittier for everyone involved
He's probably done a lot more shit, but that's what I remember from the top of my head

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>>12851202
I'm not unicorn but these things are juicy. Maybe it's in our nature to feel curious about these stuff and it has to do with our reproductive instinct? I thought I'd never be interested in any type of those magazine stand celebrity gossip but here I am.

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>>12851296
Why Matsuri has him as a mod and even congratulate his birthday?...

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>>12851332
Because even through it all he's still there, giving her supachats and making clips so new people go to her stream. I'm pretty sure most of her english speaking fanbase comes from his clips, if not for those he'd just be another creepy flip stalker that would've gotten banned years ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>12851332
>>12851296

It's the menhera's mutual understanding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12851206
In this case, wouldn't she be the holo that an average joe has the most chance with?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12851207
As in it's okay or as in it's bad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12851296
To add some stuff
>Acts like a cyberpolice when it comes to translators and is the reason there's not Live translators in Matsuri chat
>Represents overall the worst aspects of Matsuri's fanbase
>>12851332
L*ger is a creep, a stalker, possibly a sex pest, has lied multiple times and is a hypocrite, pretty similar to Matsuri herself.
Either that or his antics were never brought up in jp twitter / boards so Matsuri doesn't know about them.

[Anonymous No.]

you guys probably don't know but he moved to japan and is actually living close to matsuri.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12851660
I wouldn't be surprised if he made a raft and navigated by himself to Tokyo at this point, he's the kind of creep that would look for all Satos in the phonebook and go to every address to look for her to camp outside of her house

[Anonymous No.]

>>12851660
He moved to Japan because of anime, finding out about hololive was a plus

[Anonymous No.]

>>12851660
He’s actually the person behind the hand

[Anonymous No.]

>>12851533
The fact that she is fucked ? I don't care, she can do whatever she want with her life.
What I don't like about her are the lies, and her menhera way to treat the others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12851949
This would be a motivational story if true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12851534
Menheras have to look out for each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12852107
That's fair. I actually like her because of how much of a mess she is, relatively.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12851376
His last clip was like 2 months ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12851503
Yeah, why do you think people have started to believe the randoms on twitter claiming to have tapped her menhera ass?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12852588
Sorry, I'll be more discreet about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12852577
His clips are the main reason she has an english audience in the first place, even if he stops making them

[Anonymous No.]

>>12852588
>public service virtual idol

[Anonymous No.]

>>12852712
He's the matsurisus' nobleman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12852588
Do we have anything substantial or just words?

[Anonymous No.]

Matsuri has claimed she would have sex with her fans aswell as becoming a cum dumpster.
But in a serious note, seeing how she acts when she gets drunk, it won't be surprising that she had at least one night stand.
Matsuri starts drinking a bit and a few minutes later is willing to suck the dick / pussy closest to her

[Anonymous No.]

>>12854120
>tfw ywn have a turboslut gf

[Anonymous No.]

>>12853331
It may be so, he does treat them like a nobleman would treat medieval peasants

[Anonymous No.]

bath time

[Anonymous No.]

You can't save those that don't want to be saved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12854417
touché

[Anonymous No.]

>>12854554
What if after her supposed break, she's so chronically sleep deprived that she hallucinates SCs that aren't really there?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12851296
80% of this you pulled out of your ass, believing in your own rhetoric

[Anonymous No.]

>>12851332
Because you don't believe the bullshit being said here.

Half of the things isn't true and the other half is spun completely out of proportion. They just hate lyger because they can't get the same attention he does from the oshis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12850564
Literally a meme dude. Japs older than 25 are always getting dicked

[Anonymous No.]

>>12850924
Nah the coomer is too lazy to make vids now

[Anonymous No.]

>>12855182
What if they don't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12855182
That must be the reason omiai is so common these days and even Norio sensei, being 28, famous and attractive couldn't find a marriage partner if not for marriage agencies

[Anonymous No.]

>>12781684
>She masturbated guys on stream and lied about it?
>She never did it. She just saw them doing it.
Wait what? I thought she spoke to male irl friends that got them butthurt?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12783297
It's always been this bad, Japaneses are autistic and being an idolfag is an autism multiplier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12781684
Does the anti threads actually do anything substantial?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801679
It’s “shut up, not with you, and not with anyone of your concern”.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805093
>>Survived the taiwan yab which made Coco graduate.
The chinks didn't make her graduate, that wasn't anything new.
It was the behind-the-scenes drama with management and the corpo suits that came in from the normal idol industry and saw her as a liability, so she chose to leave instead of her content being dictated for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12855775
That's the yabai incident, after that people dug out a bunch of old videos of her, mainly her dancing various songs but there was one of an online fan meeting through skype where a guy started masturbating and she sarcastically cheered him on
>>12856729
Not really, unless something huge really happens like another scandal or incident where the real antis/gachikoi turned anti go mad and do actually do the things japanese antis

[Anonymous No.]

>>12857375
>skype where a guy started masturbating and she sarcastically cheered him on
WTF I love Towa now

[Anonymous No.]

>>12852772
We really need more public use Holo lewds
>>12853738
If we had solid evidence people would have believed them from the start, anon. Za hando is the best we have
>>12855013
It's OK lyger, I'm sure Matsuri will fuck you soon. Not even being sarcastic here

[Anonymous No.]

>>12857375
>do actually do the things japanese antis

What?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12857375
>she sarcastically cheered him on

Imagine getting a SPH JOI from Towa for free.

[Anonymous No.]

Matsuri’s brother needs to impregnate Matsuri to save her. Once she’s pregnant, she’ll start changing for the better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12858229
Her design is literally jirai kei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12860261
What would it be like to have a Matsuri sister?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12860146
He probably meant "actually do the things japanese antis do"

[Anonymous No.]

>>12860963
What do they actually do? Pull a Perfect Blue?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12728904
fuck off lyger

[Anonymous No.]

>>12861199
Stab idols I guess, it happens like 5 times a year in Japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>12855775
I don't know if you're new or not anon, but towa DMed a dude on twitter asking him to take down a picture of him cum tributing her, doesn't necessarily make her a whore or anything but you can tell she's very conscious about those things, there is no smoke without a fire after all

[Anonymous No.]

>>12740215
She went from being one of the top holos to being below fucking Ayame. Matsuri isn't fine at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12860443
Probably traumatizing. She'd guilt trip you and abuse you both physically and mentally if you threatened to do something that doesn't directly benefit her

You'd either live a life of dissociation and turn into a psycho, or a life of isolation until you an hero out of stress and the weight of it all

[Anonymous No.]

>>12861861
"tell down picture" is really hilarious and I understand why you want to believe it but that screenshot is faker than shit. It was posted by some troll on /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>12862091
Wasn't she worse when she started out?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12862167
What if I beat her up and rape her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12862091
What do you mean? Ayame is super successful and loved. She gets huge viewer numbers and superchats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805512
rbc.. forgotten again

[Anonymous No.]

>>12862751
She'd probably like it, for a while at least, until she stabs you in your sleep

[Anonymous No.]

>>12865561
I don't want to get stabbed in my sleep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12865610
Then don't beat her up, just fuck her normally and beat her under the Disguise of s&m play
She'll still stab you in your sleep, but for unrelated reasons

[Anonymous No.]

>>12865071
Please don't talk about indies here, this thread is about Matsuri and maybe other holos

[Anonymous No.]

>>12866456
Awfully bold of you to think she won't just shank you during lunch

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805512
>>12805342
Noel?

[Anonymous No.]

YWNSMDJ(You will never see Matsuri doing JAVs)

[Anonymous No.]

do you guys have a collection of the member emoticons?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805512
RBC...
Shion...

[Anonymous No.]

ITT:

[Anonymous No.]

>>12728904
Can you give us any examples?
Or is this just a case of another manchild autist who doesn't know how grownups live?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12862167
You forgot all the molestation she would do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12855077
fuck off lyger

[Anonymous No.]

>>12860280
>Jirai Kei (地雷系/じらいけい) translates to "landmine-type" and is derived from "jirai onna" (地雷女) which is a derogatory term that refers to a type of a woman that has a high tendency to have violent emotional breakdowns.
Why is Matsuri like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12874186
At some point she stopped trying to get better and embraced her mental illness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12874186
i clicked on this thread as a joke...
is it really this bad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12877449
It's probably even worse than you think

[Anonymous No.]

>>12817389
Marine is not healthy

[Anonymous No.]

>>12877449
Let's just say that costume is a case that validates the opinions of people who say Cover fit model to the talent and not the other way around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12868442
there is no matsurisus in this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>12866888
>>12866456

can we just have no stabbing

[Anonymous No.]

How much of a dumb nigger do you have to be to believe that matsuri is actually menhera? Did you just blank out the whole hand/door moment?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12884633
Menhera doesn't mean virgin you retard, it means mentally unstable and she sure as hell is one

[Anonymous No.]

>>12884368
Yes, there is.

[Anonymous No.]

>Matsuri's little brother calls her onee-chan
>Matsuri says she feels hot afterwards.
Why is she like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12885202
She molested her brother. It’s the only logical conclusion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12884783
I know. I just wanted to get your reaction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12885202
oh no

[Anonymous No.]

>>12884633
the hand/door moment is exactly why she's a menhera, if she's any less of a menhera, it wouldn't have been as big of a deal

[Anonymous No.]

So this is it, the next thread will be called Saving Matsuri + Haachama general

[Anonymous No.]

>>12886768
why does haachama needs saving?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12887065
Because Hachima is just as much of a menhera.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12886768
Yes. Saving Gen1 general is also a good option. Aki, Mel and Fubuki need saving too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12888536
Not him, but I think only Haachama and Matsuri. They’re the most menhera out of Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12888536
friend is doing pretty well

[Anonymous No.]

>>12889347
She isn't. Shes has a savior complex.

[Anonymous No.]

she has Wat-chan now, she doesn't need saved