/#/ - Numbers thread

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Previous thread >>12367692

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ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

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>>12389702
>This OP
Ready for a spicy thread

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>>12389702
>full 11 person Branch Collab in 3D
vs
>one office lady singing boomer songs
And you retards keep saying EN was a "powerhouse" branch kek rumao

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Vshojo numbers today:
Veibae 10,612
Melody 6,106
Nyanners 12,670 (ongoing)

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>>12389702
We can no longer call Toya "He-Ayame" anymore. Those numbers just aren't up to par. He is more like "He-Shion" now.

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Nijsanji must be irrelevant these days

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Numbers

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who is #1 and #2?

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Serious question: Why hasn't Vshojo fostered a dedicated fanbase of artists, animators and clippers like that of HoloEN despite having similar popularity? Like, I've seen a lot of viral fan arts and animations from Hololive but there's barely anything notable for Vshojo. They have both IronMouse and Nyanners that may rival even Gura herself.

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>>12389702
Hololive powerhouse in the top 3: marine, pekora, miko.

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I can't wait for Youtube Redirect

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>>12390007
Absolutely. Even NijiInterns do the shilling for them kek
>>12347031
>>12347031
>>12347031

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>>12390035
Hololive has a slice of life appeal that appeals to weebs. Vshojo feels more like western streamers with a gimmick.

Also, Hololive lore unironically helps with fan content. Just see all the fan content that comes from Ame being a time traveller.

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>>12390035
have you considered that maybe they do get a ton of fan art, animations and clips but you just haven't bothered looking for them?
nyanners alone dedicates a few hours every week to just going over all the fanart stuff she receives

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Why does Myth mog Council so hard? Was Hologen 1 just right time right place, or is it something more?

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>>12390035
Pretty sure they do, you're just a faggot who follows Hololive artists and then assumes since all (you) see are Holo art, therefore everyone else is irrelevant.
I could go on Twitter rn and find PLENTY of VShojo art

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>>12390035
>>12389947
>>12389856
So much bait and its not even SEAhours yet, what happened?

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>>12390151
Council is still new, give them time. Mumei and Kronii will mog the shit out of Gura in a year.

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>>12389947
>twitch numbers
Might as well include Bili numbers too

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>>12390199
They can't bait with Nijisanji anymore so they went back to vshojo.

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>Vshojo vs HoloEN
>HoloMyth vs HoloCouncil
>HoloJP vs HoloEN
They're really trying today huh?

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>>12390199
Niji lost so hard they have to resort to using Vshojo.

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>>12390035
They have a lot of clippers too

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>>12390269
Never let them live this down

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>>12390035
HoloEN got a big portion of that from being a spinoff of HoloJP, and both are older than VShojo.

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>>12389947
>Nyanners 12,670 (ongoing)
Crab game is FOTM on Twitch rn, understandably so.
Xqc got 100k+ with it last night.
Wish HoloEN could get perms for it since it seems like a pretty funny game for a big full gen collab.

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>>12390151
They don't

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>>12390035
They have plenty of clippers even korean clips lol https://youtu.be/QiDbjul4ZFs

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>>12390414
Bruh. even Vshojo is doing better in KR than NijiKR.

How did this branch fail so hard?

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>>12390287
That's a cope
Bae almost doubled her by premiering a song while streaming

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>>12389947
When Nijis fail to bring good numbers, VShojofags suddenly appears.
Kinda Sus....

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>>12390304
>8 minutes
oh nyo nyo nyo...

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>>12390375
I can image western devs being confused when a Japanese company asks them for permission to monetize their game. How dumb.

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>>12388293
Yes. Not to mention CCV, SC, 3D, outfits, song, and merch where Holo5 mogumogu the shit out of Selejo.

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>>12390035
We do have some amazing animations and fanart but Vshojo fanbase is not as big as Hololove and the youtube algorithm doesn't recommend Vshojo as much as Hololive.

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>>12390553
4 of them haven't even passed a dead channel.

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>>12390494
Meant to >>12390256

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>>12390468
By being KRs. I assume Koreans don't want to watch Koreans. Bora's the most successful and she's basically a JP APEX streamer.

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Should we add Vshojocope to the thread? I feel like Vshojo fans have a much bigger little brother syndrom than Niji fans. Vshojo made their debut only few months later even though their talents have been doing vtubing wayyyy longer than HoloEN. Yet when HoloEN debut, they swooped in and get all the attention from artists, animators, mangaka, JP media, youtubers, etc.

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>>12390553
Selejo was so shit compared to Eden-gumi. I don't mind the uniforms but the characters themselves don't look that good. Only watched Chigusa because of her past life and because she takes part in some APEX tourneys, her KR skills help there at least for now.

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>>12390608
Don't remind me!!!

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>>12390269
>cucked by Pekora
>cucked by Hal
>cucked by Miko baby
>cucked by Mel
the salt is unbearable

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>>12390553
Which one had a talent that was forced to graduate?
Know your place Holo trash. Nijichads run this shit, unless you want more of your whores to never work in Vtubing ever again

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>>12390725
Don't visit Delta's thread.

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>>12390762
Nijisanji, 3 members

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>>12390157
Fucker, name one animation or art of Vshojo that has gone viral. With Hololive, I can name many.

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>>12390269
Yeah everyone knows that HoloJP>HoloEn>Vshojo>HoloCouncil

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>>12390816
Such an angry little man
What's got you so wound up today?

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>>12390816
>only looks for Hololive
>why can I only find Hololive hurr durr
Fucking faggot

>name one
I'm not gonma spoonfeed you retard. There's plenty out there. Take your mind out of the Hololive gutter and you might actually find more talented and entertaining Vtubers

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>>12390978
Numbers say that by having a number related pic as the OP will rile up the posters here by 70%
Salt's real

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>>12390608
5 of them still are active instead of retiring due to harassement.
>>12390713
Suo, Akane, hisui are good.
>>12390806
The comparison is between selejo and holo 5, retard

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>>12390803
I tried visiting it and its full of nijiniggers falseflagging to make deltafans and holofags against each other

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>>12390753
don't forget
>cucked by Bone Bros

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>>12390963
HoloCouncil is part of HoloEN and Vshojo isn't bigger than Council

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>>12390816
Now they have to go viral? The fuck?
I can't be assed searching but here's a special small one just for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLrL-U9epM4

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>>12390632
But the KR indies get 4 digits CCV from native korean while NijiKR only gets 2 - 3 digits CCV. Why is NijiKR so unpopular among Korean while the KR indie scene is well received?

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>>12391110
Just like here with Vshojo

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It's very embarassing that nijiniggers with much less subs are above holo girls who have much more subs.

Like, Calli having the same views as Ange. Or Kuzuha competing with Pekora and Gura. Or Matsuri below Kaede. Why the fuck those girls with more subs are below nijis with much less subs?

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>>12390816
define viral
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clRz2DDpFL4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDH5J0moTro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2Y5KVtU810&t=17s

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>>12391073
>The comparison is between selejo and holo 5, retard
Respond with numbers, stop coping .>>12390553

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>>12390632
>By being KRs. I assume Koreans don't want to watch Korean
https://namu.wiki/w/이세계%20아이돌
They sre mogging nijikr tho

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>>12390468
>>12391150
If this branch failed as much as you people boast, it would be dead for ages. IN is a good example of that.

Bora, Roha, Akira, Hada, Nagi, Nari and others do more than enough for it to exist. You people act like vtubing is expensive like a movie or an AAA game. It's not.

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>>12389991
Mahjong sucks. He’s even unlisted it, it was that bad.

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>>12391225
>200k views
Not that anon but 200k isn't viral content

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>>12391329
> What the thread should be about: numbers
> What actually is: shitting on nijisanji
kek

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All these holofags copeing their losing to vshojo is hilarious. Enjoy second best losers.

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>>12391475
Then they want to come and criticize nijisanji fans for disliking holofags..

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this thread is gonna remain unusable until it dies isn't it.
see you fags at JST prime time

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>>12391350
The KR indie scene is pretty active with multiple vtubers having thousands CCV. Why can't NijiKR get those numbers? Are the talents boring to watch? Or is it the brand fault? Do you think NijiKR would do better if they drop the Nijisanji brand?

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>>12391475
Gotta make it seem like Hololive is still relevant rumao

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hewwo

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>>12391475
> What actually is: shitting on nijisanji
Don't you mean nijiafgs coping and falseflagging since Niji lost yesterday?

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Really going in circles right now huh, when prime time hits it will be better i guess...

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Vshoujo
>Nonstop growth for the last year.
HoloEN
>Nonstop decline. Only Minecraft streams to try to leech off HoloJP.

Less and less people are getting into vtubing than before. The more the audience matures the more likely they are to spread out of the HoloEN bubble and go to other agencies.
First movers advantage will matter less without new blood coming in. The hardcore paypigs have already started leaving HoloEN.

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>>12391724
They hated him because he spoke the truth...

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>>12391674
If Hololive is no longer relevant, what does that tell about the thousands vtubers with smaller numbers than Hololive? Who do you watch, anon?

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>>12391198
>Calli having the same views as Ange
CCV isn't the only relevant metric

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>12391793
Long shitty bait is still shitty bait
>No numbers
>NijiEN debuted a new gen just to cannibalize itself, forget new blood

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An angry schizo, what's new. Anyways Ame's on now with 17k viewers, think she's earned a top 10 spot?

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>>12391225
This
https://youtu.be/Y2TamAjKizU
https://youtu.be/HoTbtvF1iSw
https://youtu.be/uF1pj4UrDio
https://youtu.be/kIz0b1hOGbA
https://youtu.be/ys69fYkl6nA
https://youtu.be/50p94kVSp8k
https://youtu.be/7rt1D6KsV1s
https://youtu.be/35cmGkZYWAE
https://youtu.be/hBmpMMkXz6Y
https://youtu.be/1NNWbmiwLfI
https://youtu.be/JcEIyz-s4NQ
https://youtu.be/BASjLHjbTe0

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>>12391475
>>12391526
>>12391674
>go to numbers thread
> big numbers > small numbers
>b-but you're just s-shitting on nijisanji
how about you go back to your containment thread? this thread is not for the faint hearted

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>>12391698
B-but Ame is reclining!

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Seems last thread had people forget that there's another loli in Hololive.

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>>12391912
The ankha dance Gura one is already at 11 million.

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>>12391862
... anon, this entire thread is based on that.

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Hololive is always behind I swear this is why their losing to vshojo. A brand new buff game came out called crab game. People are getting mad numbers playing it and I can't wait to see hololive touch it in a year where the hype gone like all other games.

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>>12391793
Vshoujo
>Nonstop growth for the last year. (Questionable if you don't have proof)
HoloEN
>Nonstop decline. Only Minecraft streams to try to leech off HoloJP. (not non-stop they do recover from time to time)
NijiEN
>Almost Dead on Arrival lmao

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>>12392007
We also numberfag song views, of which Calli is a top contender

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Vshojocope is strong today. How is that little brother syndrome going? Y'all jealous Vshojo will never be able to beat HoloEN, like ever?

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>>12391976
Anya and Iofi are failures like holostars....

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>>12391912
of many other
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uydZpb_F7So

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>Posts numbers as image.

>Hololive in top 5.

>Thread becomes shit.

Proof that tourist Nijiniggers are the on shitting up the numbers thread.

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>>12392074
Fuck off, false flagger.

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>>12391912
There's a Holo Anime channel that gets millions of views.

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>>12392084
Jesus, no one can beat Hololive when it comes to viral contents at this point. Just counting HoloGra is enough, and they do it weekly.

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>>12392007
CCV is important but SCs, VOD, Subs, Songs, Sponsorship, # of Clips are also important.

It seems to me, nijifags would just pick one of these where their nijis manage to get decent at.
>Kuzuha on august got great ccv due to tourneys
Nijis non-stop boasts
>Pekora beats Kuzuha in ccv after august
Nijis claim ccv is a useless metric

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>>12392251
I barely ever see anything of those discussed in here compared to CCV

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>>12392049

>>12392049

>Hololive is always behind I swear this is why their losing to vshojo.

How many starting like this already? Looking like bots by now

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You faggots talk a lot about nijisanji and hololive but don't be surprised when 774 surpass both and become market leader in 2022.

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>>12392007
Just the dumbest people here would put Mori and Ange at the same level just because they have a similar CCV

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>>12392304
Have you missed the discussion regarding Kuzuha's Vampire Cover?

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>>12392304
way to out yourself as a newfag, album sales numberfagging was just a week or two ago

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>>12392357
774 already had their moments and opportunities, and they blew it.
2022 is the year of Sony.

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>>12392177
Niji and Vshojo get more viral fan animations and clips than Holo retard

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>>12392251

CCV - Kuzuha, Marine, Pekora

SC - Rushia, Kson

VOD - Gura

Subs - Gura

Songs - Calli, Suisei (does Gura count?)

Sponsorships - ???

# of Clips - Gura

These are the top for every metric yeah?

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>>12392520
Link them then

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>>12392503
Counting on corporate bullshit.

Everyone knows that 2022 is the year where indies rise up and mog all the companies.

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>>12392520
11M views uploaded 22hrs ago. Reflect mogged

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This is why we don't use numbers as OP pic, fucking hell thread is already shit.

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>>12392503
You said the same thing about hololive before 2020. Just wait and see.

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>>12392667
>11M views uploaded 22hrs ago. Reflect mogged
Forgot the link. kek
https://youtu.be/hBmpMMkXz6Y

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>>12392525
Suprisingly, Kuzuha and Kanae in most sponsored stream.

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>>12392577
>be a holofaggot
>ask to be spoonfed
Every single time. This is why you faggots got bullied out of /jp/

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>>12392749
> source: just trust me bro. I know everything.

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>>12392525
Gura, Marine, and Ayame (lol) also have high views songs but their song output is not at the same league as Calli and Suisei.

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>>12392731
Not surprising that their most popular streamers get the most sponsorships.
Kuzuha doesn't even have to work for them, his managers beg him to do them.

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>>12392063
https://twitchtracker.com/nyanners
https://twitchtracker.com/ironmouse
https://twitchtracker.com/veibae
https://twitchtracker.com/apricot
https://twitchtracker.com/silvervale
https://twitchtracker.com/projektmelody
https://twitchtracker.com/zentreya

Pretty much every vshojo has seen some level of growth throughout 2021.

>>12385085
Nonstop decline. Every single myth member has just had their worst month which looking by the number of red/oranges seems a common sight. HoloEN as a whole with 11 members getting less sc than every month before 6 months ago. Seems like cannibalization to me.

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>>12392749
Just admit that you have nothing to back your statement.

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>>12392304
I have seen people discussing everything here, even likes on tweets

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>>12392525
>>12392731
We can't actually say since we don't have something to use on tracking them
I don't know about Niji but on Holos Side its, Aqua and Pekora?

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300k after 24 hours! Looks like it's the floor for Mori's released song on her channel nowadays regardless of debuffs. Hopefully it keeps up so she has another original with 1m views under 7 days

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>>12392749

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>>12392819
They are stable for the last 6 months

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>>12392520
I spoonfeed you just once holobaby

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTBlKfRe_m8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clRz2DDpFL4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDH5J0moTro

From an former holofag to learned what real talents look like.
How many have you lost now first walfie,mamloni, and plenty of others

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>>12392834
Just accept you faggots won't even do the bare minimum of typing in "Vshojo animation" on the search bar

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https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1455369070384062468
>ZERO APPLICANT UP TO STANDARD FOR THE TWO ALREADY RELEASED MODELS
Jesas

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>>12392864
Pekora don't do them as often as you may think. Fubuki actually gets more involved in spons. Aqua does a lot now since choosing to stream less and do idol reps

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https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1455369070384062468
Kakage...
Also crumbs for Gen 6

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>>12392749
Give us a graph or stfu

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>>12390304
newfag here, what does this represent

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>>12393003
>>12393011
>200k to 400k is more viral
That's why, I see.

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>>12393049
>>12393027
Cover's audition process must really be rigorous lol..

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>>12392878
Unironically did worse than her Jump King VOD. Mori’s music career is over, her gamer career has just begun.

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>>12393011
>>12393003
>None of the animations have reached 1m
NGMI

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>>12393147
Fresh bait good job anon

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>>12393003
>Vshojo animation
these are like 200k views BS that was uploaded weeks ago.
This one is more legit. Uploaded yesterday. 11M views. 2naks, KAI_EN and others get a lot traction as well
https://youtu.be/hBmpMMkXz6Y

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>>12393027
KEK
NO ONE WANTS TO APPLY TO HOLOLIVE
Hololive fucking reclining, free falling in real time
Thank you Coco for showing us what a black company Cover really is.
Bet there'll be 0 applicants for HoloID Gen 3 too

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>>12389702

Nice job Subaru1

As for the top two... Sometimes, the more things change, the more they stay the same.

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>>12392749
>this is the same faggot that's screaming for unity in a different thread

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>>12393044
I don't know about that anon pekora is shilling for sega and squar enix for a month now. Her lost judgement is most likely sponsored aswell.

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>>12393003
Is this supposed to be viral? Even the VOD numbers of Gura's streams look better in comparison.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuC1pe1TTBQ

This interaction is how Hololive blew up in the west.
Just the bare minimum of acknowledgement and thanks is enough for EOPs to like someone.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyways. Lamy is the only one streming. Next sched on HoloDex is a MarinexMiko collab at 6JST. Lots of dead hours. Lamy is getting 8.2k right now. At least someone is utilizing the dead hours.

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>>12393233
Kys Nijinigger, your company is fucking dying

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>>12393003
Are you trying to farm views by doing this??
Kek, 200k-500k views are considered viral to you already?
>>12393027
>>12393049
I got a question since there was no one accepted. Does that mean thiese models will not be used?

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>>12393325
>>12393232
Here another one holofags cope cause vshojo are the new hotness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4MePEfeB18

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>>12393027
What was that? Normal vtubers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393027
No one wants them even polka who graduated a month after this announced chose another artist lol

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>>12391132

Sorry I mean Holomyth
>Vshojo isn't bigger than Council
according to this >>12341766
the top Vshojos are Ironmouse is14th(6.21m), Veibae is 22nd(4.22m) and Nyanners is 23rd(2.21m) while Kroni is 37th.

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>>12393415
Probably from the latter part of the tweet.
>>12393441
Not sure what would be their "gen" or what they would be since the designs were shown so that people could apply.

[Anonymous No.]

"They have viral contents!" Anon said in /#/ thread.

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>>12393415
Yes. I'd say that they probably already accepted people for Gen 6 but nobody want to use those models.

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>>12393440
>still not 1 mil

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>>12393148
Rigorous doesn't equal successful.
Council Gen 4 and Gen 5 have had the most applicants

and yet Fubuki joined through seeing a flyer on a bulletin board. Half of gen 2 were highschool students looking for a part time job.

Kinda reminds me of Google. They used to recruit the smartest people but now that their salary is so large they have trouble filtering out people only after the money and now they have to rely on pajeets to get anything done because most of them can't code and the actual smart nerds are at startups.

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>>12393502
This is absolutely retarded, by your logic Ironmouse is bigger than Ayame because she streamed more than her.

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>>12393502
7.5M views in 10 months is pretty small.
Even Kiara gets 5.6M in a month.

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>>12393521
>They dont have viral contents!
inb4 it's doesn't count

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG2QyK4CkZc
IRyS is here to collect her normal 4k and 16k more on dead hours

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393404
I spoke too soon. Irys is playing MC, Maybe an easy 10k
https://youtu.be/cG2QyK4CkZc

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>>12393049
I'm curious if this is the sign of JP6 is incoming soon because I feel that Cover want to tie up any loose ends before release new gen

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393675
That's a shit number. Pomf pomf did better than that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12390553
jesus christ...
now I understand why that gen 5 schizo is always so mad

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>>12393027
>corporate speak for we couldn't get any applicants because our being a black company has been exposed and no one wants to sign up
Meanwhile AnyColor is easily debuting 9 new livers this month with more to come. Guess reputation really matters, if Sony thinks they can get hires easily they have a nasty surprise coming.

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>>12393331
Miko is so precious!!!

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>>12393677
Its a gorilla MC anon it will get more than that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393648
watch hours is the stat that people use the most when comparing streamers
If Ayame streams 25 times a month her average may drop significantly

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>>12393502
This has to be bait because too fucking retarded.
No one is seriously stupid enough to compare Jan 2021 - Oct 2021 stats between a group from 2020 and a group that debuted in Aug 2021 right?

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>>12393675
>animation talk
>posts cover numbers
Nice goalpost moving.
>>12393788
>Just hire random streamers lol who cares about quality

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393792
>spoiler part

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393775
so do they have viral content or not?

[Anonymous No.]

stop using my wife to shitpost in the numbers thread

[Anonymous No.]

>Cover is a black company timeloop
It's so tiresome

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393843
covers are not content?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393788
Why would they bother answering that question at this point? Obviously the reason is cause JP 6 is coming soon and they are posting this to lessen the number of people complaining why no one in the gen picked those models.

[Anonymous No.]

The only viral content the shitty pink cat ever produced is like a decade old and she herself disavowed it, lol. Fuck off Vshojo shitters (actually false flagging Nijiniggers).

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393843
Cant hire random streamers when no one is applying rumao

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393891
The entire talk was about fanmade content, specifically animations
Posting a 3 year old cover isn't proving anything
The exact image you replied to has the word "vshojo animations" as the filename

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393726
November is their buffed month they know their shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393878
Not a timeloop when it's been true for years

[Anonymous No.]

Perfect scheduling for EN today on a pretty light day.

Mumei's stream ended right as Ame's stream started. Then Ame's stream ended right as IRyS' stream is starting. Perfect way to do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393502
Ironmouse is streaming more hours than Kronii, that's all

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393904
That would be crazy if they announced it at the end of the sports festival.
Then ID3 in December/January along with announcing auditions for EN3 around that time as well.

[Anonymous No.]

Guess we have to pull out the ol reliable because nijiniggers are seething

Kuzuha's Vampire cover

1st hour: 145k
2nd hour: 245k (+100k)
3rd hour: 515k (+270k)
4th hour: 647k (+132k)
5th hour: 740k (+93k)
6th hour: 822k (+82k)
7th hour: 890k (+68k)
8th hour: 936k (+46k)
8h20m: 948k (+12k) (600 views/min; -21%)
8h40m: 957k (+9k) (450 views/min; -25%)
9h00m: 964k (+7k) (350 views/min; -22%)
9h20m: 970k (+6k) (300 views/min; -14%)
9h40m: 976.9k (+6.9k) (345 views/min; +15%)
10h00m: 981.1k (+4.2k) (210 views/min;-39%)
10h20m: 984.5k (+3.4k) (170 views/min;-19%)
10h40m: 987.6k (+3.1k) (155 views/min;-9%)
11h00m: 990.9k (+3.3k) (165 views/min;+3%)
11h20m: 994.9k (+4.0k) (200 views/min;+17%)
11h30m: 997.0k (+2.1k) (210 views/min;+5%)


Hours to 1 million views

Kuzuha - Vampire -> 11h44hm @ 210 view/minute

Gura - Reflect -> 10h29min
Caligula -> King 11h36m

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393949
I literally only replied to that post
anyway here is another one
not content again?

[Anonymous No.]

THERE'S HOPE
https://twitter.com/kakage0904/status/1455374338866118659

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393003
>lost
Walfie just did Ame's new emotes and you can just check Mamloni's Twitter right fucking now and see what's there
"Many others" as in none because those two are the only examples you could think of

[Anonymous No.]

>>12390553
Few people know this but their respective first full gen collabs also went almost head-to-head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12392129
No one on this board watches Niji. Stop making shit up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394074
>8 minutes
oh nyo nyo nyo...

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/a0h_8ewFizI
Is trending in youtube affect algorithm?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393845
Doesn't support this statement >>12392520
But you can keep moving the goalpost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393605
>and yet Fubuki joined through seeing a flyer on a bulletin board. Half of gen 2 were highschool students looking for a part time job.
early hololive was a completely different environment, anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394124
what's the point?
you fags will keep saying it's doesn't count anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394207
>it's
>it's
>it's
No wonder
And what the fuck are you replying to

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394155
Wtf Risu managed to get #44 on trending but Reflect and Calligula KING didn't LMAO
Youtube works in mysterious ways

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394174
not the post I replied to faggot
anyway, is this >>12394207 animation for you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394095
EOP here, translate onegai!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393726
Where there is smoke there is fire and it certainly seems like a JP6 announcement is imminent. I'm a bit torn on it to be honest.

I really want to see a new gen and see what the girls can do. However, I also think HoloJP is at the perfect sweet spot of having a lot of members without having too many (see Nijisanji). The way they are set up right now even the bottom feeders are thriving comparable to others and the illegal view funneling and box pushing has been perfected. Five more members might disrupt that.

[Anonymous No.]

guys please include nijisanji on your discussion too, theyre #2 Vtubing corp in the world you know

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394266
It's #41 for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393675
I remember this getting viral and people asking the name of the song

https://youtube.com/shorts/xIDNQhXqNuE?feature=share

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394241
what's your point?
>viral
check
>animation
check
>vshoujo
check
what do you want?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394266
Miko is always trending (trending right now) and not peko/marine despite more views and streaming at the same time i dont get youtube trending lol

[Anonymous No.]

I sometimea wander in on this thread and wonder, is this thread a way for anons to release their pent up stress?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394363
Read the post you're replying to you fucktard

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393775
It really didn't

[Anonymous No.]

Why are so many Vshojo fans amgry right now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394425
it does support this statement >>12392520
But you can keep moving the goalpost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394513
>Vshojo fans

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394369
yes, especially nijifags, they've been losing quite a lot in the October ever since anon start the daily winner thing
Also kuzuha beaten over and over again

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394513
Vshojo fans don't leave their general.
This is just a Nijifag using Vshojo to falseflag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394513
its nijinigger, vshojo fans stick to their general

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394095
I don't know how many of you were here when anon were talking about Nari (Suisei's designer) and how he cut all ties with Cover over stuff we'll never find out about (unfollowed every holo and deleted all his holo/Suisei fanart sometime earlier this year), but damn I'm surprised Kakage is still on good terms with Cover after being blueballed for 1.5 years.

Maybe there is something in the works, like another one of his designs will be used for JP6, or he's a professional and not a faggot like Nari.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394369
Its for legit numberfags to discuss numbers and for others to troll as a way to release stress.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394563
>Niji
>losing
>can actually scout for new talents while Holoshits can't
Oh no oh no, was I supposed to kneel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394608
there is no Nijinigger here as well, just holobronies falseflag

[Anonymous No.]

>>12391142
>Now
NTA but maybe read the post that started this discussion you retard
>>12390035
it LITERALLY talks about viral stuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394619
Nari got replaced very recently didn't he?
Don't think hes been hired for another chuuba from another company and on top of that misses out on that sweet commission money from Cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394653
look at these posts
>>12393233
>>12394644
obvious baits from holobronies pretending to be nijifags

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394546
>Twitter fan art
>is fan animation and clip
also
>2 mil
>vs 11 mil
Go on
>>12394644
Your statement is worthless when they actually debut gen 6. Retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394619
>or he's a professional and not a faggot
Yes, this is the most likely explanation, lol. Professionals understand that sometimes.......shit happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394619
Didn't he already cut ties last year when the mass privating of videos happened?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394715
Why would they falseflag in the first place? Do they just pretend to seethe so that other anons can feel that they've "won" something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394727
the original discussion was about Vshojo vs Council but ok

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393904
>Obviously the reason is cause ID 3 is coming soon and they are posting this to lessen the number of people complaining why no one in the gen picked those models
Fixed it for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>12389702

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394828
>pretend to seethe

[Anonymous No.]

>>12391498
>second
Thats Niji anon

[Anonymous No.]

Which JP gen will have all their members hit 1m first? I think only Gen 3 or 4 have a chance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394714
>Nari got replaced very recently didn't he?
He'll never be "replaced" because Suisei won't change her design like Miko did, but it's implied that he won't be working with Cover in the future and she'll be getting her costumes and upgrades from another artist.
Thanks for the great design and don't let the door hit you on the way out, faggot.

>>12394772
He started tweeting cryptic shit, but he unfollowed and deleted everything during the Mizuryu Kei drama IIRC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394863
Yes. Isn't that what falseflagging is?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394842
The original discussion
>>12392520

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394875
GAMERS, followed by Gen 3..

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394875
Gen 5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394878
Pretty much burned a lucrative bridge.
I don't get why Nip artists can be really retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394875
JP 5 will outpace JP 3 and JP 4 for that. Flare, Towa and Luna is slow in subs. Gamers is probably another contender.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394958
>>12394997
Aloe will never get past 300k, so Gen 5 can't ever do it.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/holostarstv/status/1455372338216648704/
Nobody cares but Stars are being fed well with concert and now this

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394074
Based

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394941
holo here means council fucking retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395027
damn

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395027
Aloe is gone stop counting her in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395065
>>12395079
Cope, gen 5 will always be the most mediocre gen of JP

[Anonymous No.]

>12395057
Fucking illiterate and unable to follow a simple conversation

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395030
Stars getting sponsorships too this year. I wonder what it would take for their branch to get more popular.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395079
Her account still exists. She's dead but she still exists

[Anonymous No.]

cam on irys get that 8k!
fuckin hell guerilla out of nowhere

[Anonymous No.]

Susan slashing subs again

[Anonymous No.]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa gen 5 schizo is here
how does it feel that selejo mogged by gen 5 and ars amal 3D debut destroyed by botan debut number AHAHAHAAHAHA

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394653
There's some, but they're generally more focused on correcting baits/falseflags instead of throwing bait since there's so much disinformation about Niji in these threads.
Overall, they usually contribute positively to threads.

Once in a blue moon, a real Nijinigger shows up and you can tell he's real because he knows too much about ancient Niji history and is seething too much about how Holo-dominated the threads are.
They fit the /jp/ stereotype of snooty, elitist gatekeeping fags who can't comprehend why people would watch "inferior" content like Hololive.

Again, they rarely show up because they prefer baiting in the dozens of bait threads in the catalog instead, where they can talk shit about quality instead of getting numbers rammed up their asses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12391132
>Vshojo isn't bigger than Council
they 100% are, council beats the with some special stream or micraft collabs because of the hololive audience hopping in but if you look at normal streams vshojo may go from 7 to 6k viewers with game debuff while council go from 20k to 3k

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395144
already 9.2
Let's aim for 10k-12k shall we? Can the dork Nephilim do it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394715
follow up
as you can see here these holobronies replied to their own baits and then blamed Nijiniggers"
>>12393233
>>12394727

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394875
You really have to go by the lowest member obviously.

>Gen 0
Roboco: 763,000

>Gen 1
Aki: 601,000

>Gen 2
Choco: 756,000

>Gen 3
Flare: 792,000

>Gen 4
Luna: 721,000

>Gen 5
Nene: 803,000

>GAMERS
Mio: 875,000

Based on this I'm going to say GAMERS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394619
Kakage was involved in several merch design so it's not like Cover blueballed him entirely. It's just his vtuber design that Cover commissioned doesn't get used. Cover and Kakage still maintains a good relationship, heck Kakage always joked how he wanted Cover to allow him to be a mama. I bet Gen 6 will have Kakage as a mama with different design.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395270
>It's not me I swear
Some cope literally cannot be made up by Holofags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395228
Nta, and yeah I do agree that VShojo > Council
However do keep it mind that Council is still 2months old, they have a lot of room to improve.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395324

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395156
>susan took our subs
>susan took our viewers
>there's no decline, it's just susan
At some point the cope has to end

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395201
Isn’t Hololive on /jp/ still the most active thread there by a huge margin? What is the general opinion about those, are they also "elitist gatekeepers"? People who don’t watch Hololive are probably like 40-50 posters on the whole /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393843
>animation talk
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ6I_ZYLY6NbccwXsqTNRfg this guy started 4 weeks ago with vshojo animations and is getting quite a lot of views with animation, you also have to consider vshojo is less than a year old, hololive had a dedicated animator fanbase with jp and some hopped to en too, holo is doing way better with animations but vshojo isn't doing bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395127
unironically slow and steady lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395391
This proves nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

It's been what, 2-3 months since the last daily rank was op pic? it instantly summoned the dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395417
/hlg/ is full of SEAniggers and schizos who will never be Japanese.
They also hate EN vtubers except maybe Ina.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12389947
>Wow~ solo 12k? Amazing I guess?
>Go check stream
>It's actully a Mouse,Veibae,Snuffy,Sykkuno and bunch of e-clebs collab
Pretty sad numbers desu~
This are the details that VSho...nijiniggers will never tell us

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395417
Hey, I did say it was a stereotype.

[Anonymous No.]

24 hours mark is a little bit faster than End of a Life. Easy 1m views under 7 days, but let's see if it can keep up the pace to be faster than EoaL's 3 days 9 hours 50 minutes mark.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393605
>Rigorous doesn't equal successful.
no, but the results we have/had show that the process is indeed successful

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395586
Is it just that Vshojo has so much overlap within their audience or that they just refuse to watch if it's not on their preferred streamer's channel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395662
cope nijinigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395413
When retards like you leave that is

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395586
>Turns out Vshojo can only hit 10k by collab
And don't forget their super weapon!

[Anonymous No.]

Actual vshobro passing thru...
>>12395586
Sykkuno joined after 3 hours, Vei and Charlie after 4
Was about 9 there i think for the first 3 hours
>>12395662
Mouse is off mondays, vei already streamed today
Sykkuno's streaming, as are various other streamers

Ths isn't some planned, advertised collab, it just kinda happened. Nyanners had been playing over he weekend and dropped an invite to the people in the minecraft server

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395617
Timing is unfortunate since Kuzuha's Vampire stole its thunder, but Myth or Treat's speed is fucking incredible.
If it gets to 1 mil in 3 days or around there, it's in very special company amongst Holosongs, especially for an original too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395228
>>12395348
> Vshoujo gets 6k - 7k
You don't watch Vshoujo. Name five of them and their numbers.
Kronii's just chatting gets bigger CCV than any VShoujo member. The lowest Council still performs better than the lowest Vshoujo. Council full collabs have better numbers than Vhoujo full collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

all holoen stream went past 10k today!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393003
>an former holofag to learned what
KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395348
they sure have room for improvements but unless something goes viral i can't see them surpassing vshojo soon, hololive growth is front loaded, you can check any of the holoEN girls and see they started higher but the grow rate is way slower in some cases the growth is even smaller than the loss o trend hoppers, i'm not 100% sure rn but few months ago i remember calli and kiara were going down in avg viewers that doesn't mean they are losing their fanbase because that is 100% growing but they are losing the hololive buff and with the niche content they make it's harder to grow outside of japan, hard to compare

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395783
Vei went over 10k today alone
At least do the basic number checks or you look like a retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394207
>it's doesn't count
KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395413
NijiEN subs got slashed too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395862
>alone
yeah.. suuuurreeeee

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395836
Kiara didn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393675
anything more recent?

[Anonymous No.]

Average viewers - October

HoloEN vs VShojo

Gura 18,095
Kronii 9,954
Ina 9,523
>Nyanners 9,465
>Veibae 7,855
Mumei 7,786
>Ironmouse 7,762
IRyS 7,286
Baelz 6,811
Mori 6,675
Fauna 6,230
Ame 5,481
Kiara 5,153
Sana 4,577
>Apricot 3,878
>Zentreya 3,542
>Silvervale 3,429
>Hajime 3,300
>projektmelody 3,035

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395919
Check the vod if you're really so deep in denial

[Anonymous No.]

>>12390035
They actually do, and a lot of the Vshoujos actually commission art for themselves out of pocket. Not like art assets for streams but just random pictures, usually borderline ecchi stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395960
>comparing twitch numbers to youtube numbers
Try multiplying the Twitch numbers by 0.5 to get closer to reality, nijinigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395960
wtf happened to Melody.


Also, I hate comparing Youtube to Twitch because they have different fuckery going on with their numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394714
Yes and the new artist immediately got the job to design two new L2D outfit and 3D outfit for Suisei and outfit for Mel's original song MV. Nari missed out a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395919
Yes but not at the same level

[Anonymous No.]

Does SCs contribute to a country's GDP?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395960
Uh oh Vshojo bros.....

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395997

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395824
>Name five of them and their numbers.
nyanners 9/10k with some 12/3k
vei 7/9k
mouse 6/10k really volatile
zen 3/3.5k
mel 3/5k with higher numers on chaturbate even up to 10k+ at times

also you are completely missing the point and you are retarded

[Anonymous No.]

Common numberfag goer here, how the fuck did number's thread became so shitty just from the OP pic alone

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395931
she was playing singleplayer horrot games and she did get over 10k, get your head out of your ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395960
>5 member beaten by fucking Sana
nijibros time to get new bait material

[Anonymous No.]

My cute Nephilim wife is playing minecraft.
IRyStocrats! stop answering baits!
How do i know they're here? Because its been 40mins and IRyS still haven't reached her usual 12k in MC

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395997
>comparing twitch numbers to youtube numbers
What's the point of the discussion here if can't compare them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395960
>Average viewers
>Mori 6,675
>Fauna 6,230
>Ame 5,481
>Kiara 5,153
Average looks so bad for Holos who do watchalongs and SC readings often.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395274
I think Choco will hit 1m first if she stop playing DBD and Phasmophobia

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395960
Do Vshojos do superchat reading?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396163
>numbers without context
Let's go ahead and compare Bilibili numbers too while we're at it.
>>12396177
anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395960
>>12396014
>wtf happened to Melody.
she's not doing the best on twitch recently (even if today she was around 5/6k) but on the other site she's still doing pretty good

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396118
OP pic combined by recent Mel mogging super buff Kuzuha also the return of Marine completing holo dominance in number

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396089
> numbers are smaller
> "I-It's actually bigger! I-I swear!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396169
doesnt kiara get like 2k viewers playing anything that's not minecraft?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396158
IRyS usual minecraft was 8-9k.

[Anonymous No.]

Vshojo has like 8 members but 75% of them are doing so bad compared to the rest. I feel like they need to do this box-pushing thing even further.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396266
No, she only gets that 2k for watchalongs, sc reading, or JRPGs.

Recently she even got 20k with a non minecraft game, but that's with Gura visiting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396266
>doesn't streamer get smaller numbers when playing less popular game?
Wow, you've really thought about this, haven't you

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396266
https://holo.poi.cat/vtuber/kiara

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396311
I forgot that those members were even in Vshojo desu.

The only Vshojo that's really relevant numberwise is Nyanners, Ironmouse, and Veibae.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396311
>75%
This is numbers, please learn to perform basic calculations

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396335
Damn, Kiara has actually been doing pretty damn well lately. This is what happens when she isn't on part 200 of some obscure JRPG, lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394851
The audition for the models was for Japanese people. There's nothing special about ID3 vs EN1/ID2/IRyS/EN2 that have all been released since those models were shown.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396246
we were talking about random streams retarded fuck, of course holo gets bigger numbers on events or minecraft collabs, i'm not saying vshojo is bigger than hololive i'm saying the core fanbase for individual streamers is better in vshojo, i've never seen a vshojo lose more than 1/3 her average for game choice but hololive (council more than others) get way less than half a minecraft stream if they play anything else

[Anonymous No.]

>2hrs thread
>already bump limit
S-sugoi

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396398
She'd do even better if she stops debuffing her voice.

She's a hard worker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396325
>or JRPGs.
so games

>>12396334
you are missing the point retard, i'm saying the loss of viewers in hololive for game choice is so big is not even comparable to any other vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/rurudo_/status/1454779715835760642
https://twitter.com/ramdayo1122/status/1455374384684679172
First Towa's mama, then Ollie's...
Kuzuha's stealing 2 Holoparents in 1 week.
Fuck, that's some good art. Good choices from him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396489
the power of coping nijibro

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396014
Twitch isn't her main platform like it is for the others.............she has a much different main platform that isn't good for No Nut November.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396489
This is what happens when you post numbers as the OP pic.

[Anonymous No.]

As a HoloENfag I have to admit Vshojo have top tier character designs especially Nyanners and Veibae. Ironmouse looks good too.

HoloEN only Ina and Ame have top tier designs. Gura looks okey I guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396599
>Gura looks okey I guess
dont say that, cunnyfags are gonna put you on a pike

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395823
Stole it's thunder for who? Here? The audiences for Holo EN and Niji JP have practically no overlap. 5 EN songs coming out at once sort of stepped on their own toes more than anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396168
>will get 1 mil if she stops playing Phasmo and DbD
Explain Gura then

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396599
New silvervale is pretty good too, old one looked uhh...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396564
cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396335
i'm not saying she's doing bad but try and look at the numbers in streams that aren' involving other holos be it collab or sims making a play with the girls as protagonist, here baseline is pretty low for her numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396617
Yes, stole its thunder in the context of numbers for the numbers thread.
Look in the archives and see how much hype there was for EoaL when it got the same amount of views in the first day.
We just saw a song get 1.3 mil in a day so another getting 570k isn't as impressive eventho it's actually impressive as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>ctrl+F
>type Niji
>60 results
>type Vsho
>70 results
hmmmm.
>>12396549
His manager caught on the indirect leeching method.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396445
https://twitter.com/twitchsupport/status/1245856633600671744?lang=en
> Open all Vshoujo channels
> Mute all tabs
> Browse something else
Vshoujo has a lot of dead viewers and dead subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396717
>>ctrl+F
>>type Niji
>>60 results
>>type Vsho
>>70 results
now here are some telling numbers, remember when they were "number one" LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396445
That's some copium you got there bud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395960
They've really only had 3 successes huh? Maybe that\s what the auditions are for. If they just get bums like Haruka and Snuffy that are already known quantities it's not gonna get them anywhere. They need a new breakthrough talent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396782
Why would anyone do that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396826
because the girl start the poop jokes and start moaning anon, it must be muted

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396869
I would just close the tab though

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396626
Gura is Gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396653
nta but he's right
she's primarily a cb streamer

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396890
> Expecting coomers to not have 200 opened tabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396782
The same on you YouTube
Just find some stream with no viewers and try it by yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396679
Kiara gets 5-6k in split POV collabs overlapping with numerous other ENs and far outside of her usual streaming timeslot.
That's as big of a stress test as possible and disproves
>doesnt kiara get like 2k viewers playing anything that's not minecraft?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396782
>2019
>>12396818
The hires are important but those 2 would be great ones imo. Vei was a known quantity and her viewers more than doubled since she joined this year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396818
They all were successful before joining

[Anonymous No.]

lets gooo irys usual 12k MC

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393878
That's what you faggots do with nijisanji every day here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396996
>the pot calling the kettle black
Everything is tiring. Both aren't black companies.

[Anonymous No.]

I love "as a *fag/I'm *fag btw" posts so much

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396944
Kiara (or maybe Sana) has the lowest floor for an EN Holo. As for who has the lowest ceiling it's probably Sana. Either that or Sana has just never done anything interesting enough to really test it out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396653
>>12396564
>>12396014
Melody Chaturbate viewership stats. Needless to say she does considerably better here than she does on Twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396926
Not working, anon. Youtube nerfs CCV so hard to be "authentic".

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396818
>They've really only had 3 successes huh?
this community got fucking brainwashed holy shit, with 1k viewers you can be a pretty wealthy fulltime streamer and you think 3k viewers is a failure, also 3k viewers is still only under hololive and snuffy (future vshojo member not confirmed but she expressed interest in joining and like 4 girls already slipped and called her part of vshojo then backtracked lmao) at least on twitch i never see any indie over 2/3k
i'm talking about english vtubers btw don't came and post jps or fucking nimu

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393878

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396980
> Apr 2, 2020
Can't read, anon? Go ask the twitter support again if you need further confirmations. Though I doubt you'll get the reply date correctly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396988
Ironmouses average the month before vshojo launched was 3224, Nyanners 4185
Vei was at 2985 in march before joining in april

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397082
>with 1k viewers
ew midget

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397082
NTA, but if you're this sensitive to retarded posts, you should stay out of /#/ when the OP is a ranking pic.
We're going through a timeloop right now so be prepared to get "cope" as a response.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396996
Both Cover and Anykara are not a black company anon. Id you want to see a black company in vtuber scene, just look at upd8.

[Anonymous No.]

https://mobile.twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1455369070384062468

>audition was before the Hololive boom on April-May
>the height of the coof
>Only 10 days of audition
They can't find any talents? Gee, I wonder why they didn't put up another audition for it like this year instead of announcing the news literally 1 year and a half later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397138
Sorry, my bad, only a year and a half old

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395997
>>12396142
nijisanji killed your family?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397152
Those three have really increased, the rest of them are just treading water?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397186
JP audition is open all year around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397152
Isn't that successful? They didn't have to share money with a company

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396383
Fuck you

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397107
pfffffffffffffffffffffft

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397231
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1240911816399572992?s=20
There was a specific audition for those two back in march last year

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397194
It's been years, and they haven't changed their formula. Let us know when they start slashing their dead viewers and bots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397227
Silvervale was 1980, Zentreya 1190
Melody dropped from 4024 and the other 2 weren't really streaming

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397152
>3224+4185+2985=10394
It's their average numbers now!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397263
You can use a calculator if you want

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397052
Sana's floor is definitely lower than Kiara's imo.
We've seen Kiara get decent numbers doing anything that isn't playing JRPGs and even good numbers when she does her special streams like Holotalk. That's before going into how her music numbers are pretty good for Holo standards.

Sana has Kiara-level game choices and her special streams (Holoscopes) are number poison.
That combined with her 3 week break recently where Council has collab-ed heavily with Myth will set her so far behind that her numbers may never become good.
We don't even have enough of a sample size of streams for Sana to tell if she is debuffed or if 3k is just her normal numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397227
froot was a 2vew before vtubing and she debuted as vshojo
zen doubled or more her avg too iirc
silver started slow but now she gets 3k usually when she used to be 1/1.5k
hime didn't stream before and doesn't stream now but she kept around 3k after 2months of radio silence
mel didn't gain on twitch and probably not even on cb but her cb is still going >>12397061

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397289
They changed their plan then. I think they move from audition for the design to let the talent give their input to the design.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397061
>consistently getting 9k-10k viewers
Imagine streaming knowing that 10,000 people are jerking off to you. Gallons of semen being spilled whenever she streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12395960
VShojo is more able to compete against HoloEN than NijiEN, apparently.
>>12395997
>>12396014
Going from YouTube to Twitch doesn’t seem to do anything significant. They may even drop viewers as a result. It’s better not to appear butthurt by such comparisons, otherwise they will continue to be made as a revealed weak spot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397441
Sana's floor is likely the same as kiara anon. Kiara however have higher ceiling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397152
>Ironmouses average the month before vshojo launched was 3224, Nyanners 4185,
Vei was at 2985
That’s significant growth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397541
> Stream on youtube.
> Get 2-digits CCV.
> Stream on Twitch.
> Get 5-10x more CCV.
Insignificant buff, btw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396549
>Kuzuha NTR
Do Chronoirfujos have this feel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397688
I don’t want to see made up nonsense. We all know the numbers moving to Twitch go both up and down. There is no strong incentive for Cover to move there IMO.

[Anonymous No.]

Today's superchats

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397541
>Going from YouTube to Twitch doesn’t seem to do anything significant.
Phase Connect says hello.
x4-x6 their viewership just from switching platforms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397818
Post-concert payday as is Niji tradition

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397832
Did they? We know that youtube culls viewership so its possible they have the same viewers but the youtube ones aren't being counted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397818
>Marine got tons of SC by doing Karaoke
Poor EN girls can't even open SC...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397688
CCV is only relevant for sponsorship

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397897
>we know Youtube culls membership
Just because Holoshits lost a significant number of viewers to NijiEN doesn't mean Youtube is suddenly culling viewership lmao. Get better cope Holobrony

[Anonymous No.]

I don't think Youtube gaming will last in the nest 5 years though, maybe news stream can survive but everyone will switch over to Twitch eventually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397681
You know Vei's model was ugly as fuck before joining VShojo right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397832
You’re confused. The numbers will either go up or down moving to a new platform. That’s expected to not be the same for everyone, as we all know. If Cover moved there, there is no guarantee of doing better. Crying about Twitch is a waste of time.

[Anonymous No.]

>12397974
>NijiEN
>significant
Nah man you gotta go back to the drawing board and keep using Vshojo to bait

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397974
>He doesn't know about the December 2020 incident.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398016
>You know Vei's model was ugly as fuck before joining VShojo right?
Nitpicking is a waste of time when there are more examples of growth besides Vei.

[Anonymous No.]

Kronii mentioned once about streaming on Twitch if she can get past her laziness

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398104
Opps, this^ was for: >>12398014

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397974
NijiEN is busy cannibalizing each other, anon. Another wave coming up next month btw. Oh, don't forget about the wave 5 audition. The CCV has been reclining, and once they hit 200, they'll open the paid discord date option! Exciting time to be much closer to your NijiEN oshi, anon!

[Anonymous No.]

Vshojo incline but i don't like comparing twitch numbers to youtube numbers. I remember miko switched to twitch doing minecraft due to youtube fuckery one day and she had 3-4k more viewers. You have plenty of cases where small streamers and startups switching to twitch and multiplied their viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398014
her 3d old models were her best ones though

3d sweater vei > 3d maid vei > power gap > succubus 2d > massive power gap > artgun 3d

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398016
I'd honestly drop them if they went to Twitch. Probably just stop watching vtubers altogether.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398140
If Nijisanji is as predictable in its wave cycle as it currently is, expect an announcement tomorrow or next Tuesday for another audition (same time period between Lazulight and Wave 3/4 auditions).

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398162
You can have Hololive members both gain and lose numbers by moving to Twitch. Pretending it’s a guaranteed win for Cover is retarded. No one says you cannot find a single example, because that’s not how that works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397974
CCV culling predates NijiEN anonchama

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398205
I probably would follow them, I'm not using twitch because there's no one there that I care about

[Anonymous No.]

>>12397818
Holo EN getting mogged by a 6k sub indie, love.to see it lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398185
Shit taste
If her 3d old model is that good, why doesn't she use it now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398285
CCV culling was Mid-december 2020, and hit ALL livestreamers, JP and EN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398354
apparently streaming in 3d is a lot more work than just turning on your webcam for live2d

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398104
People are always talking about how they preferred the old one even in vsj+

[Anonymous No.]

Youtube is great for big streamers that have people that are looking for you specifically, it's next to useless for 2views who would generally benefit from the level of discoverability on twitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398345
ENschizo...
You're trying too hard...

[Anonymous No.]

It’s possible that Hololive makes it difficult for other VTubers to compete on YouTube, whereas moving to Twitch can then be beneficial. However, moving to Twitch for Hololive would not be beneficial, and there fanbase is on YouTube.

So complaining about perceived gain moving to Twitch by certain VTubers getting away from Hololive, makes no sense in that regard. The numbers for YouTube and Twitch can easily be compared without issue. They both have a market for VTubers with fans that don’t like to move to the other side, while Cover captured YouTube. Obviously competition arriving on Twitch would make sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398345
Her stream has under 1000 views. That’s actually impressive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398493
It's really more because Youtube has the December 2020 cull while Twitch doesn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398358
The Holocope is delicious.
Use whatever cope you want to make you sleep better at night.

[Anonymous No.]

Looking through the twitch numbers from the weekend and here's a random one I found interesting
Bao had a 4k average and an 8k peak over the course of a 24hr stream
I know she's collabed with a lot of companies lately, pretty much all but holo. Wonder if one will sign her up as she is without rebranding

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398646
It hit even Niji livers too, so is it really Holocope?

Might as well be cope for both Niji and Holo.against Vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398670
Vshojo likely will.

[Anonymous No.]

IRyS sounds like a teenager.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398591
Nonsense. Both Twitch and YouTube try to prevent bots, so complaining about that gets us nowhere. Especially since both companies will do what they can to appeal to new and current streamers.

However, moving to Twitch making numbers go up by less competition with Hololive, or being in a different VTuber market because people don’t switch back and forth (and a likely less saturated VTuber market by comparison to how much Hololive eats up) is much more real.

It’s at least important to consider all possibilities here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398724
Really? For me she sounds like a bored housewife taken for granted by her husband.
I even imagine meeting her by accident and then i will steal her from his husband

[Anonymous No.]

Vshojo today huh? What happen to kuzuha? Or Holo en vs Holo jp?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398803
Kuzuha didn't stream today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398803
Holo EN vs Holo JP does nothing to make them feel better since they're of the same company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398803
Lol they got mogged hard yesterday and that's why nijifags uses Vshojo to cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398487
I'm no schizo, just a regular person who likes seeing an underdog beat the big guys

[Anonymous No.]

>industry-wide decline
>meanwhile in vshojo
oh no no no no holobros we got to cocky

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398894
Maybe it's just a youtube decline

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398894
Kindly delete your post

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398803
>>12398857
>>12398861
I think ignoring VShojo in the future is not viable, even when you remove all the tribalism. Particularly because they do better than NijiEN. At least for Western VTuber comparison.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398875
Hololive will never acknowledge your fav vtuber bra deal with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398894
I don't think Vshojo is that well-known in the weeb crowd compared to HoloEN. Gura and Calli alone are brining names to Hololive brand already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398940
I mean, if Vshojo is never streaming on YT, there's really nothing to worry about. Hololive as a whole is so dominating that even if Vshojo can beat HoloEN, they still have to contend with HoloJP. Vshojo does not have that advantage.

[Anonymous No.]

Can't we all just get along?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398751
Well for one, we have a public statement from Youtube to expect lower CCV after the Dec 2020 CCV change and many streamers have stated that they can see how many views are blocked as "spam viewers". Youtube never gave a definition for what is a spam viewer, so for all we know, we could all be not counted. There was also an issue with numerous Holos a few weeks ago where viewers complained about being randomly shadowbanned.

Then we have salty testimonies that viewcounts are nerfed on youtube, either because of CCV change or shitty exposure.
>“It blows my mind… you don’t even have to try on Twitch,” the Doc said, and pointed at long-time friend and ‘frenemy’ streamer TimtheTatman as one example. “Literally, he’s got 50,000 people watching him watching other people’s solo games, and they suck. He’s got like 50k viewers!
>“Really, you don’t have to try. They have it easy.
https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/dr-disrespect-twitch-streamers-have-it-easy-1619391/

And then we have TimTheTatman, who moved from Twitch to Youtube for streaming, and we can see his numbers dropped off.
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCXBE_QQSZueB8082ml5fslg
https://twitchtracker.com/timthetatman

[Anonymous No.]

>>12399082
>I mean, if Vshojo is never streaming on YT, there's really nothing to worry about
Well I’m not saying there is anything to worry about, I’m only saying they may be able to compete with HoloEN in a way that NijiEN cannot ever do. If VShojo can more fully take over Twitch, similar to what Hololive did on YouTube, that will be interesting to watch.

It’s likely hard on YouTube for new VTuber companies trying to compete with Hololive, and maybe one day if VShojo grows more on Twitch, that will be similar there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12399161
look the same to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>12399161
>Youtube never gave a definition for what is a spam viewer, so for all we know, we could all be not counted.
On the other hand, for all you know, literally only bots might be cut

>The problem, Dr Disrespect explained, is YouTube’s support — or lack thereof — when it comes to many of their livestream stars. Games like Minecraft and Roblox, that have built a bastion of support on the platform, often spike in the website’s promotion algorithms, while other streamers struggle to keep up.
This has nothing to do with "nerfing view counts"

[Anonymous No.]

Twitch allow legal viewbot
https://youtu.be/MrG1e3iCNRA

[Anonymous No.]

>>12399161
I’m not saying both companies don’t try to remove bots, only that complaining about it here is pointless, while the points I made were incredibly substantial. Like Cover eating up a gigantic position of the VTuber audience on YouTube, while Twitch is more open to new streamers, and people not switching often between platforms. It’s like Twitch is new land that’s ripe for the picking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12399321
Someone needs to tell the actual 2views

[Anonymous No.]

HoloEN
6-10x the CCV of NijiEN
and yet only 2x the SC

Congrats on having the SEA audience I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12399209
I don't think Vshojo will have that level of support considering there is no reward for watching them at all. With Hololive, we know that goal of talents wanting to perform on a big stage, so supporting them feels like a journey. That's the idol route. Vshojo doesn't follow that route, so at best, we might get acknowledgement and few merch, but at the end of the day, they are just normal streamers so it's not satisfying.

[Anonymous No.]

>12399387
old bait try again

[Anonymous No.]

>12399387
Keep Coping i guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>12399387
wtf holobronies are Seaniggers
I thought they only watch Nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>12399321
That actually explains a lot.
I keep seeing Fextralife getting 20k+ viewers but chat is dead and the person streaming is different every time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12399408
>we know that goal of talents wanting to perform on a big stage
Yeah, Vshojo already performed with Kizuna Ai so their journey is basically complete. It doesn't get bigger than that. They need to get a new gen out fast.

[Anonymous No.]

This is how I see it…
>Hololive eats up the majority of the VTuber audience on YouTube, not leaving room to grow.
>VShojo uses a much smaller amount of the VTuber audience on Twitch, leaving room to grow.
>VShojo will likely grow while VTubing on YouTube is oversaturated.

Plus there is always the talent pool argument that many already heard. Overall, I think VShojo will be okay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12399408
I hope this is bait because this reads like some stereotypical holobrony copy pasta.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12399535
it's so hard to grow on YouTube as a newcomer since they don't recommend streams very often, especially streams from a nobody

[Anonymous No.]

>>12399387
>only 2x the SC
Weakest superchat earner of Myth Ina alone mogs all NijiEN comebine I guess?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12399535
We'll see how things go in 5 years time. If YT can grow their streaming market then Vshojo might just move entirely to YT. Afterall, YT has billions of potential stream viewers than Twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive is the universal entry point in EN.
The longer the users watch Vtubers the more likely they will branch out out to different agencies.
Without an influx of new viewers HoloEN will continue to decline. The indie scene is miles ahead what it was 6 months or even a year ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12399616
Hololive is it’s own giant network, easily increasing growth over the whole thing (one account leads to another), with clippers uploading clips on YouTube it’s well. There is no issue with Hololive being on YouTube. The issue? They already won it. There isn’t much more from there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12399516
Bait these nuts

[Anonymous No.]

>>12399722
nijibros...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12399717
VShojo doesn’t want to compete directly with Hololive for control of YouTube when they have their own land on Twitch that they don’t have to compete for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12399722
I though Holofags are notorious for never watching non holo vtubers?

Why is the narrative changing now?

[Anonymous No.]

I am just an anon who believe there is some susan fuckery going on with youtube live viewers count. Everyone's numbers on youtube got nerf last year. Remember the weird ass zipzag and teeth shape of the live viewer count graph before ? How about having more votes on stream than live viewers? A good case would be astel's unarchived karaoke having 3.8k votes while he had only 2k viewers. It was an unarchived stream so less likely people vote and leave. I just feel it is pointless to compare numbers between both platforms when they count viewers differently, may be until nijien and holoen stream on twitch. I have no problem calling vshojo queen of twitch or whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

>Niji will survive because Japanese oriented
>Vshojo will survive because Twitch
What next? I want to see more reasons of why Hololive will die. Somehow it's popular to doomposting popular thing

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/ninomaeinanis/status/1455414376433807360
NijEN bros wont survive this

[Anonymous No.]

>>12399832
We see weird shit like waiting room peaks exceed actual stream peaks quite often too.

A recent example:
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/HuXDcwUflJU
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/qazuzvxL0e4

[Anonymous No.]

>>12399872
Haven't you seen that get got 0 applications for 2 Vtuber models? Hololive is already dead rumao

[Anonymous No.]

>>12399915
I think Gura might do a sponsored stream for them too then, since she's as big of a Miku fan as Ina and she's a rhythm gamer.
Selenfags celebrated too early last week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12399942
ESLchama...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12399915
SELENBROS NOT LIKE THIS

[Anonymous No.]

>>12399982
Who is the 2nd person on the moon? Who is the 2nd best Basketball player of all time?

No one gives a shit who the 2nd is; only the first. Selen got sponsored first, everyone else is irrelevant. Therefore, get fucked Holofaggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>12400066
>Selen got sponsored first
source?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12400066
Gura had the first sponsor for a rhythm game. Idk who this Salem you talked about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12399832
>but anti-bot AI
Both Twitch and YouTube try to prevent bots, so you can imagine anything from that. But whether or not a Hololive number is 10k or 14k, the fact that Hololive eats up the majority of the VTuber audience on YouTube while Twitch is a greener pasture, means that numbers are more likely to grow on Twitch. A company like VShojo or some other will want to gain it for themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12399791
The tribalfags in this thread won't watch non holos for obvious reasons.

The majority of holofags are not tribalfags though. Lack of exposure is the main reason they don't break out of the bubble.
A significant portion of the holo audience probably couldn't name more than 3 indies or have any idea what a niji,prism or tsunderia is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12400142
What are you even talking about, you're making no sense.
>>12400159
Holofag here, I watch Amamya and panda but I shit on Nijis anyway cause why not

[Anonymous No.]

>>12400159
>Holo-only faggots
>calling anyone not watching their shit company a tribalfag
Cope hard, seethe harder. This is actually amazing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12400159
Hundreds of thousands already gave NijiEN a try and said "no, thank you."
Nyanners has millions of VOD views and subs, but when she streams on youtube, she can't even break 5k CCV. Ironmouse can't either.

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly, if we already compare Youtube number with Twitch number, maybe we need compare Bilibili number too

[Anonymous No.]

Okay, whoever's making the next thread...please ffs....do what needs to be done. We've had multiple shit threads today thanks to breaking away from what was working.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12400307
Sometimes it can't be helped. We need a weekly tribalfag/bait-filled thread for the retards to get shit out of their system.
On the bright side, we're almost dead so it should be over...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12400159
I Watch Ange whenever she streams but i still won't watch your no-talent nijiEN whores even if you pay me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12400241
twitch kiddies don't watch youtube streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12400358
I'll watch them if I got paid though. I want the money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12400373
>Just realized youtube has it's own gaming page to recommend streams.
>12k viewers for Minecraft
>10k are Irys
Kek, dead platform.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQvWX73GQygcwXOTSf_VDVg/live

[Anonymous No.]

>>12400241
That's normal.
See every Holo debut vs their normal viewership.

>>12400213
>Calls someone a tribalfag
>Immediately outs himself as a tribalfag
You're not very smart are you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12399387
>only 2x the SC
hahahahahahahaha

[Anonymous No.]

>>12399717
Vshoujo is so intertwined with twitch culture there's no way they would do that, unless the platform died off or something. Half their content is just reaction to other peoples videos which will get you instantly struck on youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12400373
>using percentage rather than number
This number can be deceiving everyone

[Anonymous No.]

>>12400241
When did Nyanners last stream on youtube on her main account?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12399722
There is no indie scene, anyone even remotely notable fucked off to twitch, got incorporated into Niji EN, or joined one of the 5-6 small western vtuber companies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12400373
>>12400487
Percentages are annoying. That long dark bar on the bottom line just means people that don't watch streams at all, which means a lot of people that don't use the internet for streams.
Also, just 229 responses? Who did they even poll?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12400066
Gura will always be the first vtuber paid to eat nacho fries. Let that live in your heart until you draw your final breath.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12400591
She got that fries delivered via drone, AND she got to keep the drone too.
Kakkoi

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>>12400501
>>12400241
10 months ago so hard to say what she'd get now

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>>12400448
>10x the subs
>only 10x the SC
Nice try holobronies

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>>12400159
There's too many Holos now for most people make time to go check out alternatives as there aren't many dead hours now and tons of VODs to watch. Niji EN and even Holo ID have found this out the hard way. All these tiny companies are dreaming if they think there's much room to grow, most likely the talents are mostly using them as a developmental stepping stone to try and secure a better spot in another company later on.

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>>12400142
Twiitchschizo this thread has been over this repeatedly go watch this and take Twitch's dick out of your mouth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUa0kbNZ7c4

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>>12400591
And this is relevant to the Miku Game sponsorship because?

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>>12400241
A lot of Nyanners subs are legit "dead subs" due to her channel being so old. That and most of the people never signed up to watch her as a livestreamer in the first place, and her never really streaming on YT.

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>>12400699
>dead subs cope
>still gets more CCV than memeshark
Rumao

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>>12400602
Based Apex Predator

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>>12400734
I'm not sure what your post even means.

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>>12400734
>Cope so hard that he can't even face the reailty

See>>12395960

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>>12399922
It's not so weird. People sit in Kaira's waiting room because they feel bad about her numbers and want to support her. But when the stream starts they are tabbed into someone else's stream.
Sorry if this sounds mean , but this is the most likely story

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>>12400672
This isn't fact, you're just quoting a schizo from this fucked up corner of /vt/ and a former twitch streamer with a hateboner for twitch. He's constantly making anti twitch videos as clickbait for retards like you. Just check out his most viewed.