/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Number fag thread No.]

/bet/ edition.
Who will win?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
I'd say Ina, she's growing at a faster pace now for some reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
Kiara now that she isn't being nerfed by Youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
rooting for ina but between the two of them kiara's more likely to do a "X till one mil endurance stream"

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
Kiara, shes going to play victim like what she do previously and beat ina

Poor kiara she only can do this to contend with ina, i felt bad for her

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238841
This, Ina just doesn't care about her numbers enough

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara. SEAniggers will seethe hard.

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara if she does the usual endurance push but they've been neck-and-neck for most of the time. They even got to 800k on the same day without factoring in time zones and such. They'll probably hit 1 million pretty close to or on the same day as each other.

>>1238766
Lot more clippers for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
*Casts a spell to permaban Kiara*

[Anonymous No.]

they both hit 1m subs at the same time and numberfag jonestown happens

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238945
How do "endurance stream to X subs" help people grow faster? Are there viewers autistic enough to make other accounts to subscribe?
Doesn't that hurt her, since she just basically gets a bunch of dead subs for the sake of numberfagging?

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara, because she deserves it more

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
No one, the battle shall be everlasting and no victor shall ever came on top.

[Anonymous No.]

I expect Ina will intentionally sandbag when they start getting close because she knows it would be a huge blow to Kiara's self esteem to lose a competition her opponent isn't even trying to win.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1239108
There are tons of viewers who don't bother to sub, these just remind them to do so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1239054
Soon brother.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1239126
>the leech deserves more than ina
ok kfp fag

[Anonymous No.]

>>1239108
>Doesn't that hurt her
It actually completely fucks up the algorithm and that's why her channel is getting shitfaced and shadowbanned. Pewdiepie is the best example. 100m subs but his vids barely go over 10m views, while channels with way smaller sub counts get 20m views. He's never featured in trending anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1239280
You guys always gloat about how Ina gets subs "without even trying/caring." Kiara puts tons of time and effort into her content. So I think she deserves it more. That's all I mean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
Kiara, since she will actually try

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721

Kiara. She has the higher growth rate as long as Youtube isn't bullying her and she isn't having breakdowns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
I’d like if they just do a duel endurance collab together (both POV’s of course) and make a fun contest out of it. With a batsu game for the loser or something. Their dynamic with each other is super catty anyways, so it can work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1239108
You'd honestly be surprised at how many people watch videos/streams on youtube without interacting on the video itself (i.e subbing, liking the video, commenting)
Endurance stream to X is basically a polite way of saying "Hey retards, sub to me since you're already watching anyways"

[Anonymous No.]

>>1239108
They probably mostly get subs from people who watch Hololive but are only subscribed to a few talents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238945
>>1239108
There's nothing wrong with doing "sing until X" streams, a lot of the JP girls do it. If anything Ina is the odd one out for not doing much of anything to stimulate her channel's growth, while Kiara seems to do everything she can. And yet they're head to head.
It doesn't really matter which one of them makes it to a million first though, they're both gonna make before the entire ID branch and before several JP senpais who have a headstart of years. They have nothing to complain about in terms of success.

[Anonymous No.]

They've been equal for literally half of their existence. EN is a dead fad anyway so there is not much that can change. What content you put out literally doesn't matter anymore, not even collabs give any boost. Hell they can not stream at all and still get 50% of the subs they would normally gain.

[Anonymous No.]

Whoever makes the best memes wins by default. What does Ina really have? Wah? And Kiara? People here just post hate threads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1239720
> They have nothing to complain about in terms of success
Kiara still complains

[Anonymous No.]

>>1239054
>>1239216
My fellow hitsujis, aren't we being too hasty? Hasn't Kiara suffered enough?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1239054
*blocks your spell and redirects it to Ina*

[Anonymous No.]

>>1239720
There's nothing wrong it all and none of this shit really matters
It's just funny because it makes SEAnigs and antis asshurt because Kiara does them and Ina doesn't so Kiara can theoretically jump ahead whenever she feels like it
They get ass hurt that they can't shit on her for being "the less subbed EN" so they rationalize it as "cheating",
Which in of itself is hilarious because having least subs out of EN still puts you ahead of 3/4th of the rest of hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>1239999
>one, two, three, four nines
digits confirm kiara is a crybaby

[Anonymous No.]

>>1239054
Account terminations on yt are usually preceded by deletion of many videos like what happened to Kiara today, so I'm still hopeful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1239318
They'll just dismiss your valid post with a meaningless, throwaway term like "leech", so there's no point trying to reason with the utterly delusional schizos that are scared of Kiara

[Anonymous No.]

>>1239318
She is a leech

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
>Ina the non numberfag
vs
>A literal numberfag

I sure hope Ina doe

[Anonymous No.]

>>1240388
>>1240419
KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>1240388
>>1240419
like pottery

[Anonymous No.]

>>1240388
>>1240419
>>1240453
>>1240614
>fags ignore the time difference of a post and believe a falseflag
I don't even care about either of these cunts and this attempt was PATHETIC

[Anonymous No.]

It better be Ina. Kiara is a shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1240747
>59 seconds
Here's the part where you cope with "h-he bought a pass, I just know it!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>1240812
>MACHINE COULD NEVER BE WRONG
>SAMEFAGS DEFINITELY AREN'T WILLING TO WAIT IN THE SAME THREAD BEYOND THE POST TIMER
Do you know how retarded you sound?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
On one hand, I wish Ina had less subscribers because smaller streams are comfier. On the other hand, I want her to beat Kiara just to make the bird rage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
>takamori is dead
>views are not coming in
what do you do?
>tell people your shadowbanned
>they believe you
>next, tell them to upvote posts on plebbit
>they do
>next, do the same for her videos in member streams
>they do
>view still around 1k
>cry why dont people draw art with me and others to leech off of holos other than mori
>views still not budging
>make a "re-"debut" head faking normie watchers into thinking its special
>they fall for it
>now ship Ame and re-establish that Mori is just a friend
>views rising
there we go.mp3

[Anonymous No.]

>>1239414
>as long as she isn't having breakdowns
>Kiara
>not having breakdowns

[Anonymous No.]

>>1240913
bahaha her post actually got removed on reddit

[Anonymous No.]

>>1240913
God Kiara is such a cunt. Nothing about her is real.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1240913
SEAnigchama, why would posing on reddit several days after she was shadowbanned, be relevant information?
Also go back faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>1241019
yes, some decent kfps were telling that it was brigading & would fuck up her reddit and YT account but she wouldnt listen.
so they reported it on plebbit & got it removed.
Imagine how pathetic you have to be for your own fans to tell you to take it easy on the numberfagging

[Anonymous No.]

>>1241063
Don't tell me kfps reported it? This is even funnier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1239922
>EN is a dead fad
Anonchama, your reality reps...
I refuse to believe that you'd put such obvious bait in the middle of your post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
Ina's chat is almost solid green anymore. I don't think she cares about subs when she has tons of dedicated paying members.

[Anonymous No.]

Lmao Kiara doing all these collabs, sub begging (celebration) streams, re-debuts and she's still barely ahead and sometimes behind Ina who isn't even trying. It's hilarious

[Anonymous No.]

>>1239922
>EN is a dead fad anyway
Am wrong!

[Anonymous No.]

>>1241178
Maybe because Ina is not a drama queen and is enjoyable to watch

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
whens the deadline? what are the odds?
OP is a faggot as always

[Anonymous No.]

>>1239922
red line is kiara i'm assuming. what happened mid-december?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
Here's your answer

In fact, it would be great if they did 1 million celebration together

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
kiara. She has so much talent she had accumulated haters who are jealous that a german does vtubing better than japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1240913
are you serious posting gay ass red dit rules on 4chan? We don't believe in rules and hate jannies. Take your circle jerk rules back to that fudge packing site of red dit and don't come back you flaming homo sexual.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1241275
Re debut stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1241324
>both 15k away from their marks
>decide to hold endurance race
>Kiarai streams JRPG/Gacha shit
>Ina streams Morrowind or Oblivion
>mfw Ina wins

[Anonymous No.]

>>1241275
Ina crossed her, whenever Ina crosses her, she pulls the redebut

[Anonymous No.]

You guys are so fucking pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1241468
Every time she redebuts she comes back more annoying

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
I hope they reach it together and celebrate in a collab or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1241530
Its similar to gambler's guilt.
They know they're doing a wrong thing but the addiction to fame/numbers forces them to dig that hole deeper.
Every redebut stream eats away at her soul because she knows its an underhanded move.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1239054
You guys love seeing Kiara suffer. I mean I do too but damn, she could use a break. I wish someone could wipe her memory of streaming for a day or two just so she'd chill.

[Anonymous No.]

i hope they have a collab stream and cross the line within minutes of each other and are genuinely happy and celebratory of each others’ efforts and god’s in his heaven and all’s right with the world

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
ina ina inaaaaa
that said they both deserve their success imo, I have my favorites (Ina) but I have no bad feelings towards Kiara so if she makes it first i'll be happy for her too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1241586
Is it really worth it if she has to resort to all of that and barely passes Ina?

[Anonymous No.]

Notice "unity" posters are out, just a hint, kfp = unity posters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
A professional victim like Kiara always has a "woe is me" card up her sleeve to pull when the chips get down.

[Anonymous No.]

nino
she's been playing the long game
while kiara's been playing short boost collabs

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara does not give two shits about KFP or her fellow genmates. Ina at the very least cares about her fans. Ina deserves it. Kiara can rot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1241757
Anyone have that clip where kiara throws KFP under the bus when a superchat says takamori is getting stale.
She immediately cries and says "its because the chat asks for it thats it, if you stopped, i would too" mutes her mic and cries again.

She knows she's using gray area tricks but she doesn't care. This is why I think she'll get 1M first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1241757
neither of them gives a shit about their fan base, you deluded retard

[Anonymous No.]

At the end of the day Kiara is the loser.
She tried to ride off Cali with a retarded forced ship from the begininng.
>Enter JP coattails with Kiara talk!
The fact that with all that momentum she's TIED with Ina? It's fucking pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1241433
>>1241468
that makes sense, think I remember hearing about her account getting terminated
but that begs the question, why is she doing another "redebut" if all that happened was her videos getting deleted? trying to dispel the idea that she's doing it for subs, but >>1241586
seems kinda true

[Anonymous No.]

>>1241659
As someone who watches both and has a fave (kiara), I can say the same. I just want them to keep being happy and successful together.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1241915
They didn't get deleted by YT, kiara deleted them because they had low views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1241324
>Peaceful truce for only one day
>Continue rrat and race who going to be the first to reach two million subs.

This not going to end soon perhaps until EN Gen2...

[Anonymous No.]

>>1241915
Wasn't the videos just privated? Kiara hid them to gain sympathy for a redebut thing.

[Anonymous No.]

i bet for ina but i think kiara is the type to care about subcount so i hope kiara gets it if it makes her happy. because i know ina wouldnt really care if she's last in terms of subcount among her colleagues

[Anonymous No.]

>>1242047
If you have a link, it says it's TOS breaching not private. I don't like Kiara either, but you guys need to please take off the tinfoil hats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1242004
>>1242047
Right I wish there is an actual buttons to TOS videos in YouTube Studio...

[Anonymous No.]

>>1242030
Regardless, neither will catch up to the other ENs

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Kiara such a sentimental farming cunt? It's seriously fucking sad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1242030
Dilate you absolute retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1242494
>wondering why a highschool dropout Jpop wannabe for 14 years is sad
Oh no....

[Anonymous No.]

>anti thread
meidos what the fuck are you doing

[Anonymous No.]

>>1242655
Who is this thread against? I really can't tell from the first post?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
Ollie

[Anonymous No.]

>>1242937
Look at all the anti-Kiara posts.
She's been shadowbanned for a whole week and had two months of videos disappear off her channel, and these "people" think she shouldn't be upset about it? That she's "farming sympathy"? Go fuck yourselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1243043
How is that anti, princess?

[Anonymous No.]

Tako here, I'm hoping it's Kiara just to avoid drama and rratposting.
Ina doesnt care about numbers so everyone would be happier this way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1241817
need to see this one

[Anonymous No.]

>>1243114
>how is [posting bullshit] anti?
use your tiny brain

[Anonymous No.]

>>1240388
>>1240419

[Anonymous No.]

>>1243311
So you can't explain

[Anonymous No.]

>>1243359
Lying about people's motives, making leaps of logic to paint them in a negative light despite all truth to the contrary, classifies as anti behavior.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
Kiara NEEDS to get it. I don't think she could handle the lose. But honestly I won't be surprised if they get it on the same day with little time inbetween. There really hasn't been some huge difference.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
I don't know but I can tell you who WANTS to win and is staking their fragile ego on it

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238945
>Shadowbanned several times
>Channel completely deleted for 2 days
>35% of her videos ERASED from her channel

>k...kiara cheated!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
I like both
and I hope both succeed

[Anonymous No.]

>>1243823
yeah, kiara antis

[Sage No.]

>>1243885
Same. Kiara wants large numbers because ambition. Ina gets big numbers from humility. They're both friends IRL
or at least, Ina pretends to be after Kiara brandished an AK47 at her. I knew she had a gun, but that's ridiculous

[Anonymous No.]

>>1244138
>ak47
that's wrong she owns and Steyr AUG

and stop ever calling AKMs AK47s, AK47s pretty much do not exist any more, what you are seeing are AKMs

[Anonymous No.]

>>1244272
I will NOT call them AKMs
I will NOT call them magazines

[Anonymous No.]

>>1244767
I will NOT hesitate
I will NOT miss

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
Kiara obviously, she only need to stop playing shit jrpgs and focus on minecraft or buff games, and the new EU timeslot is perfect for new subs

[Anonymous No.]

>>1241178
Ina has a real personality and identity as a streamer. Kiara is like she spent a week watching clips and intentionally tried to tailor her personality to what she thought was popular including excessive yuribaiting and leeching off of a popular Holo (right down to copying her laugh). Kiara would probably be more at home in Tsunderia where she can be Usagami Pekorin or something.

[Anonymous No.]

I hope Kiara wins so niggers here will have one less reason to rope Ina into the mud. The less my oshi is talked about here: the better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
Objectively Kiara, even more likely with her most current victim arc. Hopefully (and better be) Ina.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1239414
Anon having breakdowns is a part of her characteristics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1239437
Kiara would be really salty if she lost and Ina is too much a kind soul to take the risk of hurting her genmate. Or it's simply a huge hassle for a NEET like Ina.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1244272
>>1244138
https://twitter.com/Danielo07060298/status/1367955261202259976?s=19

[Anonymous No.]

>>1243231
I agree with you but will this make Kiara really happy or will she just move on to some other issue.

[Anonymous No.]

To you faggots that say Ina is boring. At least she's cute. Kiara is both boring and irritating.

[Anonymous No.]

I enjoy both of them and as such my bet is on them hitting the 1 million mark at exactly the same time, so you all tribalfags and numberniggers can continue shitting yourselves over stuff barely anybody outside here cares about.

[Anonymous No.]

>kiara and ina talk a lot on discord
>havent had a collab yet
>decide to do a dual 1M sub endurance stream

Would be pretty based. I'm gonna close this thread now because numberfagging is actually the most pathetic thing on this site and you all disgust me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1240913
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>1243307
Found it
There you go.
【Superchat Reading】with some Xmas vibes! #kfp #キアライブ [3:49:47]
https://youtu.be/EYgOPZR9Ah4

Go to the end at 3:40:00

[Anonymous No.]

>>1243231
>>1249047
You tell me

[Anonymous No.]

It's surprising that Ina has such low subs when she is pretty much as popular as Amelia by any other metric

I guess that's just the power of putting in effort vs not giving a shit

[Anonymous No.]

My first EN stream was their collab on Arknights tier list. I'd say I want them to be neck and neck until they graduate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
TICK
TO
THE
FUCKING
TOCK
NINOMAE INA'SHART

[Anonymous No.]

Ina, as despite Kiara's constant push with endurance streams, Ina constantly catches up with her by just sorta existing.
Also, don't mistake me for those schizos that hate Kiara, I've just noticed that Ina tends to naturally do well while Kiara has to make a push, this actually generally fits into their personalities and streaming styles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
Whoever does something actually interesting first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1239084
this please , so they can shut up

[Anonymous No.]

>>1256387
Ina just wants to chill. A good example is, Ina realizes she likes Hollow Knight? Well I hope you're ready for weeks of nothing but that. She isn't even giving the appearance that she's tailoring her content towards what she thinks will make her numbers go up, she clearly doesn't care. In truth she's the right person to be at the bottom of her gen, if only since she won't fixate on it like that stupid bird will.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
Subs don't matter. Literally the only thing that matters is superchats, and Kiara demolishes Ina in that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1241621
I want Kiara to win but then get terminated again so just for moment she feels like she accomplished something and feel the despair of loosing it

[Anonymous No.]

>>1239144
How could Ina sandbag other than literally not streaming for a week?

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any actual evidence of Kiara's shadowban?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1259835
She didn't appear as live to subscribed people while streaming live or as a recommendation, nor did her community posts. If you're asking if some anon made a screencap as evidence, I am not aware of it, no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1245979
nailed, this is not even a rrat

[Anonymous No.]

>>1259835
I don't even know what this question means.

[Anonymous No.]

Let's get this over with, shall we?
>Ina hasn't had to deal with bad timeslots from being in Japan
>Ina hasn't had her channel terminated
>Ina hasn't had her channel shadowb&'d for a week
>Ina hasn't had a third of her videos deleted
>Ina has a comfortable off-line life, hololive is a break from her job's monotony
>Ina is basically a hiki, almost on the other side of extrovertion than Kiara
>Ina is very much a perfectionist, and will not show or do something unless she thinks it will be worth it
>Popularity is not a mark of quality or effort, just look at everyone else

The narrative that Kiara needs effort to do what Ina simply does employs multiple fallacies. First, Ina is hard-working, her schedules are extremely reliable and her content is always of the same quality. Second, being extroverted and active comes natural to Kiara, as anyone who follows her knows. Third, Ina does not put drastically less content than Kiara does, and Ina is the second one in holoEN most likely to do collabs after Kiara.

Kiara and Ina just treat hololive differently. To Kiara this is her main job, whereas to Ina it's her side gig. The difference you see in their atittudes spring from that. Both are completely fine ways of thinking about vtubing.

PS: takatori is the best duo in holoEN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
Kiara wins Ina wouldnt care
Ina wins the Kiaras mental breakdown clock starts ticking

lets go Ina

[Anonymous No.]

>>1260384
Too much text, keep coping

[Anonymous No.]

>>1253389
I don't disagree with her, but why did she feel the need to respond? She seems like she took it very personally. I feel like I'm complaining that she's clapping back, which is a harsh standard, but I don't know, it doesn't feel like the guy superchatted just to be mean

[Anonymous No.]

Can you fucks not pit the German Genki Girl Onee-Chan against the Shrinking Violet Korean Mommy for one god damned second? They’re both fucking good, you faggots just have no concept of camaraderie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1241134
Ina actively discourages superchats, already makes bank from her actual job and just wants to chill and draw for fun

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
Who cares.

[Anonymous No.]

Keep posting, I don't watch either of them but the posts are funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1260541
Ina has hordes of yellow fever cucks who are either self-hating whites or SEAniggers and they anti every other EN girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1260528
Kiara is not right in the brain, I actually think it's PTSD because just being thin-skinned can't explain such ridiculous reactions over random comments. Plus, sometimes she will just laugh off antis while other times she breaks down from comments that aren't even from haters. It seems more like it just depends on whether it triggers her PTSD than general insecurity.

Her response was cringe as fuck and I hate her for that but if she really has PTSD it's not really her fault.

[Anonymous No.]

These threads are tiring, and I'm not even really part of either fanbase

[Anonymous No.]

>>1252607
M8 ina and kiara have collabed at least 3 times so far. And yeah that'd be great to see the meltdown on /vt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>1253389
>All the comments shitting on the guy that superchatted and discouraging legitimate criticism for the sake of the chuuba "being herself"
Fucking KFP man

[Anonymous No.]

>>1240913
>>cry why dont people draw art with me and others to leech off of holos other than mori
Wait what. Did she really do that?
link?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1261796
glad I'm not the only one that realized this

[Anonymous No.]

>>1240054
kill yourself kfp nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>1261796
Is this a falseflagger or is this how kfp faggots are?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1260384
>being extroverted and active comes natural to Kiara, as anyone who follows her knows.
are you talking marine. because autists trying to be extrovert is an example of kiara.
Marine is extrovertism done right from your description.

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara would be a million times more tolerable if she stopped being vain and actually took criticism well. Like I get it man, it must feel pretty stressful when you’re stuck with extremely talented genmates, but if she stopped treating it like a competition, engaged healthily with her fans, and actually invested herself in the performance rather than achieving numbers/results then she might find her niche.

tldr; kiara should just do her thing instead of being just a big a numberfag as your average /vt/ browser

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
Kiara certainly deserves it more. Nothing against Ina but she is treating it more like a hobby.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1262935
>but if she stopped treating it like a competition
This is Kiara's biggest problem by far
Ina is just trying to have fun doing her own thing.
As another anon said earlier in the thread, it feels like Kiara was just looking at popular clips and tried to base her personality off that

[Anonymous No.]

>>1262935
Ah yes Kiara is so competitive she only spams JRPGs because, as we all know, these are the ones that give the biggest buffs. Oh wait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1263081
I guess you have never watched Pekora or Korone before?
fuck off newfag. JRPGS get's a fuck ton of views

[Anonymous No.]

>>1262935
>Ame
>extremely talented

[Anonymous No.]

>>1263081
>spams JRPGs
the thing about JRPGs is you need to be decent/good at it or you not only turn off the fans that like the game but also the ones who are not interested in it.
kiara is bad at both

[Anonymous No.]

>>1263160
Only Dragon Quest from Japanese viewers you cuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>1263440
ahhh yes
Everyone hated Korone's recent Earthbound streams, how could I forget

[Anonymous No.]

>>1263285
Kiara is the top Ryza 2 streamer on Earth, she’s doing great actually

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238797
She's no longer shadowbanned and got all her videos back

[Anonymous No.]

>>1239108
Not Hololive but Nyanners has a ton of regular viewers that aren't subbed to her for some reason, it's safe to assume the same happens with a lot of Hololive members, they just aren't allowed to share it

[Anonymous No.]

>>1262948
This. Thankfully Kiara has stronger growth when YT isn't fucking with her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1261869
Apparently her life has been one long conga line of things failing or going wrong, so I wouldn't be surprised if it's some sort of PTSD. She's just absolutely terrified of failing, or anything that could be seen as failure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1260528
Kiara literally can't decide not to say something. When we say Kiara has no filter we don't just mean that she speaks very candidly, we mean that what she is saying is always exactly what she's thinking, full stop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1264495
She's even talked about this several times, about how if she tries to keep a thought inside her head she feels like she's gonna explode.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1264495
That's retarded though, there is a reason as to why you should think before saying something, it is not because you could offend someone or some shit it is because anything you are trying to say might come as extremely retarded if you don't word it properly

[Anonymous No.]

>>1264697
No argument here, anon, I'm just calling it like I see it

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
They're both garbage. One is annoying and the other is boring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1240913
Fucking lmao.
>so desperate that she made a lebbit thread to shill herself
Ina's been really winning me over lately. Her streams are unironically comfy and she's got cute commentary. She's also been lightly adding to her character lore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1265776
>fighting against a shadowban
>"shilling herself"

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
kpfniggers need to choke on a 12ga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1265837
Get back in cagie, kfp wagie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
If things were to take their natural course, I think Ina would hit one million first, but only just barely. However, Kiara is much more interested in her channel's performance (not saying this in a good or bad way), so I would imagine up towards the end she's going to work on something exciting or eventful to push her channel over first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1265859
drown

[Anonymous No.]

This is a competition that noone cares about except for Kiara and the people that hate Kiara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1265952
>look ma I posted it again

[Anonymous No.]

>>1265776
What has she added to her character lore? I

[Anonymous No.]

>>1264673
Sounds like a kid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1265952
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>1266260
Recently she alluded to not being able to perform complicated multitasking with her tentacles while using her hands due to coordination/concentration issues and that they're not that much stronger than her arms.

[Sage No.]

>>1265837

[Anonymous No.]

>>1265952
>this indog is crying on twitter over chess.com banning some Indog player

[Anonymous No.]

AHHH KFPBROS!?
THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>1267055
How can you have 35 more videos and still be behind? At 1 video a day that's a months worth of content plus. Kiara must be really unlikable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1260665
No one at Ina level draw for fun, those arts belong to Cover and she got paid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1266016
I think that may be the case, i've seen the KFP threads for a while and Ina barely gets mentioned. Wish they had more collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

Wait, why antis of Kiara labelled as SEANigs again? I just find Kiara's work just fine like the rest of the EN girls.
>t. SEANig

[Anonymous No.]

>>1274658
one indog was caught spamming kiara hate non stop

[Anonymous No.]

>>1268308
Kiara is a clipshitter

[Anonymous No.]

...and just like that, Kiara caught up. after over a week of being shadowbanned. That's like giving Ina a week head start, and she couldn't even hold her lead for a day. That should probably tell you something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1240913
Looking at this and some past "lore" it seems like Kiara is genuinely a crap person.

Sad, I thought her playing up the ship and the fake voice was just her being an amateur and misunderstanding how to do vtubing right off the bat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1253389
She's been forcing the ship since before their debut kek how can she blame anyone

[Anonymous No.]

>>1276113
Maybe by rationalizing they'd have given up on it if it were unpopular. I never really minded it so I never put much thought to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1268308
>How can you have 35 more videos
and each of those 30+ videos are 8 hour long chat reading and her reading out every compliment posted by KFP.
its revolting to watch a few minutes of it, but reading your compliments for 8 hours is unimaginable to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1276100
>was just her being an amateur and misunderstanding
every move she makes is calculated to get more views/subs. nothing about her is genuine.
I was in the same boat thinking it was silly mistakes until actually going back & looking through her actions.

[Anonymous No.]

Both, both will win. In fact, they're already winning as of now, while ur still stuck in this shit thread, lmfao.

[Anonymous No.]

It'll be Kiara if she does an endurance stream for it and Google decides not to ruin her once more, but like >>1239720 said it doesn't matter when the only full 5-person gen that could potentially beat EN to having a lineup with all 1 Mil channels is gen 3 and that would necessitate basically showing a rocket in Flare's behind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1276293
She's real to me!
>>1276388
To me, even Anya is winning. Look at how fucking great they are all having it. I think >we are generally way too stuck up in trying to find some eceleb drama about mismanagement and conflict between the chuubas. And that probably all exists while I am just being willfully ignorant. But look at this thread, pitting together two very different personalities from the same generation who happen to have very similar subs, one being an established heel and the other being inoffensive at worst and a pretty clear audience favorite at best I know she'd be my favorite if I had to pick, anyway . And then it always somehow involves shitting on each other's fanbases and making the chuubas responsible for the LETS FUCKING GOOOO posters, caring about clips more than streams, and so forth. I get where it's coming from but if you'd ask me (>my opinion matters), it's superfluous. U N I T Y etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1262935
Ame has no talent and is still doing better with personality and gamer rage alone. And Ina isn't even trying.

She needs to do her personality, introspection and meditation reps. I don't dislike chikin and I want her to do well but she obviously needs a healthier outlook in life since people notice things like that in the long run.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1276100
What past lore? The fake shit you read off lolcow?
They shut down their vtuber threads for a reason, you know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1277309
>fake
https://twitter.com/search?q=trump%20(from%3Akeekihimedesu)&src=typeahead_click
don't know, trump stuff's still there

[Anonymous No.]

Lmfao

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
Interesting that these two are the complete opposites of spectrum

[Anonymous No.]

>>1240913
Hold up a moment, anon... Takamori is dead? She's not doing drooling over Calli in each stream? I really want to know because I haven't watched her in a long time.

That was my only issue with watching her, it was too uncomfortable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
Literal numberfag vs person who gives a shit about numbers
You know who sould and will win

[Anonymous No.]

>>1278037
What the fuck, why, why Kiara.
I'm not gonna make it.

[Anonymous No.]

It doesn't really matter. But the people who do think it matters will make sure to cancel each other out in a way that they both likely get to 1 million within a few days of the other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1277103
Daily reminder that all the EN girls view each other as at least decent friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1277309
Thank God they did, there's already too few ogey's/rrat on vt

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
Ina is edging Kiara off, purposefully allowing her to grow bigger just to overtake her

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
Both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1280207
Takamori has been in a downward spiral after she travelled and revealed Mori has barely talked with her during all this time.
She even asked Mori (again) to talk to her during a mori SC reading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
I would say Kiara since she is more tryhard with her endurance streams and short clips

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara might win if she continues with her endurance streams, maybe a few more takamori streams. However, ina will inevitably surpass her income wise. She's been spending a lot more time cultivating a better relationship with her audience and finding new ways to incentivize views into memberships (via gesture and now the new apex streams). Ina may not win the mil with subscribers although she may still with her bank account if this keeps up. Takobros stay winning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1262876
I've noticed this too about Kiara. Her interactions with others, especially with the JP senpais, feel uncomfortable to me, like there's this extra undercurrent of fakeness to the interactions, and like she's intrusively energetic towards them. But I might've brushed it off as culture barrier if you hadn't defined it as autistic fake extraversion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1253389
While I can understand that her chat is a big factor of keeping the shipping alive, they're only responding to what she taught them. Her and Callie were in that "Hololive Couples" Year In Review in January, and other members like Pekora and Marine had said that they found it interesting. That could mean a variety of things of course, but it's still something that is acknowledged in more places than just Kiara's chat. She is the creator, so she is ultimately responsible for what she has created.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1280207
>>1281326
Pretty sure Takamori is on r*ddit life support lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>1278037
Absolutely based chicken

[Anonymous No.]

>kiaras voice
I don't know how people do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1281519
I would agree that Ina's membership is among the best. She uses it often, lets members vote, interacts with them and keeps them updated if things change. It's how I pictured memberships would be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
Ina

More meme worthy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1281628
feel the same

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
Both of them. They will both make it to 1 million and they will both be happy. TakoKfp love

[Anonymous No.]

>>1281791
Like nails on a chalkboard

[Anonymous No.]

>>1296601
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
Both at the same time

[Anonymous No.]

Ina, she have amazing taste in games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1268308
Quality > quantity
Ina is my oshi but ill drop out of streams i dont find interesting (like watchalongs). I can only imagine the pain of KFP dealing with 1/4 actual content 3/4 superchat readings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238797
this

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238945
>gets shadowbanned
>SHE WAS WORKING WITH YOUTUBE ON THE INSIDE TO PLAY INTO HER LORE
holy fuck somebody get the meds

[Anonymous No.]

>>1268308
It was her design that turned me off at first which I think is a huge debuff for her + previous/earlier painful streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1307440

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara just cannot get enough of Ina's ass. She's been on it for months!

[Anonymous No.]

>>1239126
Take your medication faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>1266124
yes, and? ur gonna cry over it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
The moment when they both reach 1m by playing Bethesda games, I'll consider myself a winner for life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1260384
God could you imagine if kiara yuribaited takotori instead of takamori?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1260384
I'm sorry, I'll have to disagree with that last tidbit and some other parts, but I think this is a pretty good analysis. Though, I think you should get the fuck out of this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1240913
lies and slander, kiara would never do any of this you schizos

[Anonymous No.]

>>1316911
Hi Todd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1253389
thanks anon lmao, had a good laugh

[Anonymous No.]

>>1317402
what did this girl do to you, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>1317641
being best girl obviously

[Anonymous No.]

>>1317723
you know you're not changing anyone's mind right.
you can't change mine, and I'm from /pol/
see you when your ban lifts

[Anonymous No.]

>>1281628
anons throw around autism over any mildly odd behaviour, but of the ENs, Kiara is the most comparable the actual autistic people I know.
Extroversion with almost no social awareness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1317723
wtf i love kiara now

[Anonymous No.]

>>1240913
Except she was shadow banned? None of her streams where showing up in my sub box and multiple other people on here and Twitter were saying the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1317723
based. more of an aryan than any mutt american poltard will ever be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1319541
SEAnig brigade will make up anything to shitpost. Look at them replying to each other, agreeing with themselves. As if "faking a shadowban" is supposed to boost your views. They're genuinely retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>1320095
I dont know about faking or whatever but kiara DOES do a lot of shit that can be regarded as viewbaiting. The most shameless has to be the "am x" series though. And what would be even more shameful is if she stopped doing that series because it gets less and less views everytime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1320331
Just checked the numbers on the am x series - 766k, 382k and 141k. Even as someone who enjoys her content this does not look good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1320331
>what would be even more shameful is if she stopped doing that series because it gets less and less views everytime.
You new to Youtube? How is dropping a series when it is reclining shameful? You know almost all big Youtubers changed their content at some point over the years to stay relevant and not to fade into obscurity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
Kiara is bitter about Ina's success and feels like she is entitled to more, she will reach 1 mil first but unlike Ina she wont be happy it really, so in the end she cannot win, she is not that kind of person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1320497
It would prove that shes in fact just doing the memeshit for views and subs and not because she finds it fun or enjoyable. Take fubukis meme videos for example, shes been doing those for a long time before im.scatman blew up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1320497
Any content creator that is worth their salt knows that enjoying making your content makes the content more enjoyable, that why forced content is so cringe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1320456
this goes a long with the whole shadowbanning thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>1320497
This is why Kiara will never have more live viewers than Ina, might as well make spiderman elsa pregnant videos at that point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1320688
kek, she might if she starts going sub 1k or sub 500, she's struggling at 2k right now
>yoinked from global

[Anonymous No.]

>>1321753
>thigh and midriff clickbait
>still cant reach average holo numbers
how sad

[Anonymous No.]

>>1321753
>first she streamed at jp prime time.
>then she switched to NA prime time to get views and failed.
>now she's back at jp prime , EU afternoon time and lost her fanbase
that's what you get for chasing numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1261869
>he hasn't seen the roommate posts
Where were you approximately 18 hours ago?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
it's one sided competition because ina doesn't even think about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>1280207
Takamori was never alive, it was a forced teetee meme from the start

[Anonymous No.]

>>1277309
delusional faggot

[Anonymous No.]

yea, that's why it was uncomfortable
i'm glad they stopped pushing it- maybe now they can get develop some real teetee with other holos
if only the fanart would also dry up

[Anonymous No.]

>>1322842
Theyre good friends, thats all

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
>Kiara was shadowbanned for more than a week
>Ina still couldn't pass her

[Anonymous No.]

>>1322984
they relied on each other IRL and were friends yeah, questions is if their relationship will survive the long distance test or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1280207
>Mori two days ago: Sometimes I get so busy I feel bad I can't talk to Kusotori all the time. And I'm just like... Man, that's another reason I'd like to calm down [with work stuff]. I want to talk to friends more. The people that do come to talk to me, who like talking to me.

>Kiara yesterday: I spoke to Calli after her stream yesterday. Everything's good. She felt better after we talked.

Yes Takamori is in absolute shambles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1280207
Kiara barely mentions Mori unless chat brings her up, and she's even told chat to stop talking about her before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1324301
Honestly, Rule 4 is one of the stupidest rules when it comes to mentioning other Holos

[Anonymous No.]

>>1324523
it is

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
Cringe

[Anonymous No.]

They're destined to eternally be evenly matched

[Anonymous No.]

>>1260384
Takotori is pretty kino. There is just enough of an edge there that you can imagine it descending into a sexually charged catfight. The numbers game only makes it better for me. This is my rrat and I’m sticking to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1324523
dumb gaijin

[Anonymous No.]

>>1262935
>being just a big a numberfag as your average /vt/ browser
This, and having considered the /cgl/ thing it wouldn't surprise me if Kiara herself browsed this board

[Anonymous No.]

>>1239084
This.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1331506
she definitely does

[Anonymous No.]

>>1322885
SEAthe

[Anonymous No.]

>>1317723
based Kiara, supporting black kings

[Anonymous No.]

>>1336218
How many mental breakdowns a week does she have because of the usual shitposting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1322999
This conjures an image in my mind;
Kiara and Ina are having a tug-of-war with 1M at stake. Ina is sitting in a lounge chair dropping puns and laughing with her Takodachis whereas Kiara is at the front of the line of her KFP Employees, hands on the rope, pulling with all her might. Kiara might win this imaginary race to 1M by attempting to brute force it, but Ina is going to enjoy herself regardless to what happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
I hope Ina wins, not a fan of Kiara at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1281628
Nah, watch her solo sometime. Kiara is extremely open, he can go for hours talking about what she did an so on. The problem with her genmates is that they're various levels of introversion that clash heavily with her, so they rarely play along with her. Kiara is playing the annoying character with full self-awareness. Mori is an autist, Ame is very shy, Gura is a bit better and she has a similar thing going. Ina is the only one that can actually meet her, but her energy is at the other end of the spectrum. Someone like Reine can play perfectly into Kiara's character, go check the Momotetsu collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>she passed her again
antibros... it's over...

[Anonymous No.]

>>1330394
>There is just enough of an edge there that you can imagine it descending into a sexually charged catfight.

The problem with this rrat and really the whole idea that they're antagonistic towards each other, is the fact that Kiara and Ina's interactions consistently show that they're friends.

In their last Minecraft collab, Kiara was teasing Ina and Ina countered with a threat that she wouldn't help Kiara if she was in trouble. Kiara dismissed the threat because Ina the angel would never do that:

https://youtu.be/4I1lK0yep0Y?t=3730

During the super scuffed Mario Kart stream, it was Ina who messaged Kiara first to see if something was wrong and asked how she could help:

https://youtu.be/WlP8FCIta5U?t=866

People who try to pit Kiara and Ina against each other seem to be the type that have never actually watched either of them stream.

[Anonymous No.]

Ina has never looked at a single analytic in her life

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238841
This is fine, the priestess prefers to live life like a sloth "slow, but alive"

[Anonymous No.]

>>1344753
Her strength is her chill and calm. I literally have been falling asleep to her hollow knight streams, so fucking comfy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1341114
kek

[Anonymous No.]

ina may not care about numbers, but takofags sure do. they are completely obsessed which is why they see kiara as a direct enemy, since shes the closest in sub count, and why these threads keep getting made.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1344753
>FFlogs

[Anonymous No.]

>>1347359
your oshi is unironically blacked, KFPfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>1347570
I really don't know about Kiara, considering the countries she's lived in. But Ina, well, her roommate is an asian living in diverse Canada.. I think it's very likely she has been dicked by all types of people, of all ethnicities, especially during her rebellious phase. You know what they say about the quiet ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1347699
Make any number of assumptions you want, fag. The pictures will always be there for Kiara

[Anonymous No.]

>>1347752
No more of an assumption than seeing two people in a photograph and thinking they have definitely had sex. Though I wouldn't be surprised if they were both huge sluts. That said, I'd say it's reasonable to think Ina is much more likely to have received the BBC.

[Anonymous No.]

i miss

[Anonymous No.]

>>1347872
delusional, a literal cosplay whore against a hikineet

[Anonymous No.]

>>1347872
stay delusional, KFPfag

[Anonymous No.]

>go to anime/cosplay convention
>make photos with dozens of people
>one of them is black
p-proof she had nigger gangbang!!

why are americans so obsessed with their cuck propaganda? kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>1347359
>>1347699
>>1347872
wtf are you doing engaging with this shit stirring? These threads arent made by KFP nor by takos. Leave the thread and let these losers talk to themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1348006
based anon, black lives matter. They need her consent to give her the BBC

[Anonymous No.]

>>1348006
Disturbing Kiara fact:

She was walking down the street the orther day, an asian man passed her. They made eye contact.
This confirms she is a slut who had sex with hundreds of asians. She is a self hating whore

How can KFPfags recover from this???

[Anonymous No.]

>>1348079
her old boyfriend was Asian, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1322842
yeah it felt strange and out of place. they were already being teetee on twitter before they even debuted and no one knew why.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1348006
The photo is not even from a convention though. Newfags can't even properly dox.

[Anonymous No.]

can we please fucking stop talking about what kiaras roommate did with the nigger? who even cares fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>1350401
Only if you stop talking about black people as niggers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1350401
>>1350549
both of you dont belong here

[Anonymous No.]

>>1238721
ina wins in the long run like >>1238842 said
>Poor kiara she only can do this to contend with ina
playing the victim card will get old eventually

[Anonymous No.]

>>1348079
They don't need eye contact. If she's at least 100 meters close to a man, she had sex with him. This also means that Ina is a slut too!

[Anonymous No.]

kiara did 3 "singing until X subs" streams

Ina did NONE

I'm just saying if ina did a subscriber begging stream she'd fly past chickens subs. But Ina won't because she is not an attention whore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1358203
Why would Ina, whose life is already set and perfect, need anything more? She's vtubing for shits and giggles, doesn't give a crap about superchats and is chill as hell about everything. She gain nothing for she already have everything.

[Anonymous No.]

It's funny how you can exactly tell who is and who isn't watching Kiara's/Ina's streams in this thread. I won't hold liking or disliking one or both of them against you - bevause that'd be a stupid thing to do - but at least muster enough presence of mind to stop creating/replying to rrats.

In a sense, threads like these make me think of a quote from a certain Austrian: "Repeat a lie often enough and people will believe it." Or, in other words: Repeat a rrat often enough, and anons will start believing it. This apparently works even with dead rrats, which, while most will know they're wrong, some will always reply to, and then the cycle will start all over again.

Why is any of this so hard to grasp anyways? One of the two will reach 1M first, the other second, both will get there eventually. They're all friends, and while I won't put it beyond them to occasionally get jealous or such of the other for one thing or another - jealousy is a normal human emotion after all, and we shouldn't forget Ina and Kiara are also just human - they're engaging in a friendly competition, that's all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1358203
anon, if she wasnt an attention whore, she wouldnt be a vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

>>1358819
all those flavors, you chose salty.
why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1344753
Except her parses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1358929
I'm not really salthy though. Did you read my post properly?

And to answer your question: (Perceived or artificially created) feuds between people is one of the few things that manages to truly upset me (though I try to reign myself in if I can). I just find it incredibly frustrating that people manage to twist two colleagues and friends streaming side by side into some kind of tug-of-war where if one side "wins", the other eternally loses. But what upsets me even more is when others believe these obviously false narratives and even perpetuate them - that just fills me a with a helpless kind of anger, and I can't stand that.

[Anonymous No.]

As the saying goes. If you try to please everyone, you'll end up pleasing no one. Kiara tries this and it shows. Ina very much just does her own thing and it works very well, without having to expel anywhere near the amount of energy and effort that Kiara does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1359076
>salthy
>that just fills me a with a helpless kind of anger, and I can't stand that.
yeah calm down, you're far too invested in attention whores the same as antis. you're just on the other side.

stay neutral and enjoy the experience of vtubers instead of acting like you're holier than thou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1359076
I commend your effort anon, but the other guy replying is a shithead drama hound. His enjoyment is division and gossip, because his life is empty otherwise. Pay him no heed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1358819
Didn't read but prolly a massive cope post

[Anonymous No.]

>>1359411
Yeah I should calm down, you're right. I just went to eat something and I realized I was wrong. I actually am salty. Damn. I don't get like this very often, but when I do... Ah, better just stop.

>>1359444
I guess so. People always point this or similar things out to me after the fact, and it never fails to make me feel stupid...

[Anonymous No.]

>>1359587
ye

[Anonymous No.]

>>1359098
Ina definitely is a long term thinker based on how she handles her viewers. she also speaks to them like adults whereas kiara speaks to her chat like they're babies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1358203
anonchama all the jp brand does that shit, even mori