/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

HoloJP has every resource YAGOO can throw at 'em and they still get mogged by one stubborn overseas woman and her friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12340899
JP pretty much got screwed in that aspect when Coco graduated and no one stepped up to steer the ship.

[Anonymous No.]

I think they have ideas but when they get shot down, they just accept it instead of fight back.
I'd like to see them get some confidence to do so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12341057
Man, what a power couple Coco and Ame would've been.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12340899
Japanese women in general don't really like rocking the boat when it comes to companies, they ask for permissions and if cover says can't do it they just accept it with a few tears, see marine and pekora

Western women don't just accept shit, which can be a charm point and a benefit, but it's also what can make them more annoying when they are pushy

[Anonymous No.]

>>12341277
>tfw you remember Ame choking up in her collab with Coco

[Anonymous No.]

>>12341451
Well, it was a first (and only) collab. And I have to ask you for a timestamp or two, because it's been a while since I watched it and I'm not in a mood to go search your proof for you.

[Anonymous No.]

Still got better numbers and SC, totally what Cover wants

[Anonymous No.]

The niggers in /vt/ downplaying how good the collab was are making me lose faith in humanity

[Anonymous No.]

>>12341277
>>12341451
>HoloEN and Kson collab happens
>Ame’s response to the managers: what are you gonna do about it? Fire your biggest earners?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12341697
Not him, go fuck yourself, just fucking neck it bro
If you want to be spoonfed, go to reddit
If you want to be aggressively entitled about being spoonfed, go dab off a rooftop

[Anonymous No.]

>>12342476
>>Ame’s response to the managers: what are you gonna do about it? Fire your biggest earners?
They literally fucking did that though, dummy

[Anonymous No.]

>>12340899
The credits seemed to imply that they worked directly with the VRChat team on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12340899
>This is what EOPs think since they subsisted entirely through clips and subpar Westerner and SEAtubers
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>12342617
Also in Amelia's description:
>VRChat is being streamed and monetized after confirming with VRChat Inc.
>Visit https://hello.vrchat.com/
>Big thank you to VRChat for their support!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12342475
The anons acting like this is the greatest thing ever are making me lose faith in EN vtubing

[Anonymous No.]

>>12342617
Correct me if I'm wrong but that's probably just in relation to having streaming permissions for VRchat, All of the assets were commissioned by Ame from others.

[Anonymous No.]

Fauna and Kronii's avatar have that "the longer you look at it the funnier it gets" quality.
I love it. Was so fun to watch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12342542
Wow, wanna be Japanese here is pissed. More of the good stuff coming in Christmass I bet, get your meds ready.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12342750
VRChat is a den of degeneracy and grooming, I can't believe Amelia endorsed it

[Anonymous No.]

>>12342766
I'm waiting for you schizoid antis to name a better stream. Anything you could name would be objectively worse anyway

[Anonymous No.]

no one cares about those 2views

[Anonymous No.]

>>12342942
Commet concert desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>12342880
Shut your mouth knuckle dragger, VRC is the last hope we have of EN and possibly ID of getting 3D, JP has been using a lot of 3D at home it's probably for a reason and YAGOO would be quick to partner with VRC for EN/ID 3D and HoloEARTH.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12343108
>jp
to the trash

[Anonymous No.]

>>12343108
EN, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>12342942
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VblQWr0rm7Y
Any お姉さん組 streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12340899
>HoloJP has every resource YAGOO can throw at 'em
They paid for themselves, only holostars who have every resources YAGOO can throw freely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12343191
>>12343108
Nobody is arguing that the halloween collab is better than ALL Hololive streams, retards. It's just the best EN stream so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12341057
Let's see. Without Coco, the JPs pretty much have 3D Live concerts, Minecraft, and Amogus.

Yea...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12343209
HoloJP paid 3D lives, concerts, home 3D, etc, etc themselves? All of it? Damn. You obviously have some receipts for that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12342942
That's a long list, anon.
Though if you just want streams of the girls being friendly with one another, literally any impromptu collab from Minecraft hell week was superior. Especially since they were usually limited to 4-5 girls, meaning you could actually hear what was going on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12342558
>destroy your company to send a message that you will destroy your company if your feelings are hurt

Bold move.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12343741
That's a long list, anon.
I only asked for one. Also
>minecraft streams
>noteworthy

[Anonymous No.]

>>12341381
>all the nipponese girls liked Coco because she didn't take shit from anyone

[Anonymous No.]

>>12343287
>It's just the best EN stream so far.
>Gura Ame Die Hard watchalong
>Kiara Ina Minecraft Nether KFP
>Myth Minecraft Christmas
>Myth killing Ender Dragon
>Myth Pummel Party
>Gura Ina Portal 2
>Myth 1st anniversary
>Kiara Mori Papers Please
>Ina Mori blowjob contest
Those are only Myth collabs, and I could keep going btw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12343885
I gave you several. You're welcome. Also
>VRchat streams
>noteworthy

[Anonymous No.]

>>12343126
>holoearth is just all the parts of the world the japanese don't care about like taiwan, yurop, latinoland, russiastan

[Anonymous No.]

>>12342475
Let's be real. It wasn't all perfect. There was a reason why people were concerned why we didn't have all POVs and it was reduced to five. You could barely hear any conversation, except for the host, and a lot of conversation was lost in the first half because of everyone talking over each other and proximity chat. The 2nd half rectified it when they were separated and more focused on a certain task. Good in the end but not the best all-around it could've been. Does have room for improvement and the next one should fix these issues. Everyone must have POVs like with Among Us so we can hear the conversations being had.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12343994
Cross out all Minecraft streams
Cross out watchalong
Everything else with the exception of the 1st anniversary is just a good stream but not an exceptional stream. The 1st anniversary was really good but there wasn't a song reveal with it. However, I can understand that people would prefer it over the halloween collab at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12344127
I guess the chat is an understandable concern but to me honestly it's a lot better that the POVs are limited. I don't have to watch 6 trillion streams just to catch all the details I only have to watch 5. In a perfect scenario none of the girls would be streaming, Cover would have some intern slave play cameraman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12340899
this is mogging??? how?? because it's 3d???

[Anonymous No.]

>>12340899
>they still get mogged
Haha no
The EN stream was great and kino, but objectively the production value will be lower compared to the JP full 3D streams, ie Nene's 3Ds, Mio's 3D with the double MV at the end, Marine's Anniversary stream with the soap opera, likely the upcoming sankisei collab etc.
Just because scuff is kino doesn't mean it doesn't affect the value of a stream. It was very enjoyable, however.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12341381
Marine is one of the few that insist. She doesn't let herself be beaten easily by management.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12345870
Cool story bro, try to get the point next time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12340899
Have you kneeled to her yet?

[Anonymous No.]

Its cultural difference, Asians aren't encouraged to speak out against their corporate overlords but westerners are more willing to take the initiative.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346261
Absolutely. It's just a shame that her current content is mostly boring as fuck rehashes from Hololive and that new pretty damn cool avatar is wasted there. But what do I know, she makes a lot of money and seems happy so it's whatever to me. I have no need to talk about her or watch her anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346096
>>12342942
Cool story bro, try to read the thread next time

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346261
Thanks for being such a stubborn, insistent bitch, demonstrating the overseas opportunity, and harassing YAGOO until EN became real. I am forever grateful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12344708
>Cover would have some intern slave play cameraman
This so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12341277
remember what they took from you..

[Anonymous No.]

>>12343287
retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>12340899
*2 drunk retards playing phasmophobia

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346261
I will always love this bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>12345870
anon the OP's entire point is how they think this moggs the JP 3D streams specifically because it's kino despite the lack of budget.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12340899
omega isn't a real woman

[Anonymous No.]

>>12351187
soulniggers are absolutely insufferable. They just hide behind "muh SOUL" whenever something is shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>12340899
Yagoo is big brained, let the gaijin spend her resources and rake in the money without spend a dime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12351187
>kino despite the lack of budget.
Name one kino moment

[Anonymous No.]

>>12352453
shark gang, bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>12340899
ah sweet a schizo thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>12353095
>this is kino according to EN babbies
lmao.
mogged by filler skits during pretty much every 3D concert/collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>12344708
Could have had a few staff people around and then made a big deal of it and use the official HoloEN Youtube channel that never gets any content.

[Anonymous No.]

Talents being better than holo management is not unique to en. Unless you forgot chammers hastily put together godchama stream completely shit on thousands of dollars and months of hype that went into en2's debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12342775
Vrchat team programed all the interactable elements in the world for the 1y anniversary. Assuming they didn't just use the same ending credits, they probably did the same this time for the new sections.

[Anonymous No.]

I love how strong the bond is between the EN girls, to me their interactions feel natural than being forceful collabs because they had to.
Not only that but THEM being responsible of making these fun streams happen since they organize the whole things along with commissioning a lot of assets of their own pocket.
While Ame isn't my oshi, I truly appreciate the effort she puts in these streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12344708
>EN management
>lifting a finger
Wow how entitled do you have to BE to ask for such things how high are you anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>12343994
Literally every single one of those is overrated and not that great, except for the 1st anniversary where you go, "huh, that's pretty cool" at the novelty of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12342558
>Not a single EN in the top 5 biggest earners

[Anonymous No.]

>>12340899
Which POV is the best to watch for this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12342558
Source: my ass

[Anonymous No.]

Catching up to the VoD. This is pure unadulterated unity kino.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12342476
Imagine thinking Cover gets his money from superchats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12355127
>to me their interactions feel natural than being forceful collabs because they had to
peak revisionism
only recently (meaning this year) did their collabs become natural. they werent before.

[Anonymous No.]

if you dont like holoen then dont watch it shitheads, now begone, your 2 views need attentions for her 12 hours singing stream

[Anonymous No.]

Remind me why Ame gets credited for something a fan does for free.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12341057
>>12341277
Coco was a useless leech

[Anonymous No.]

>>12356877
For example?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12344708
>management stream instead of the vtubers streaming their pov
Literally wut

[Anonymous No.]

>>12340899
Gura's costume looks fucking adorable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12343994
>Ina Mori blowjob contest

Hold up

[Anonymous No.]

>>12356907
here's your (you) chink,
now fuck off commie

[Anonymous No.]

Who in order, would get their 3D model first, that isn't VR modeled?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12357249
Ame, if she gets permission to use the one she has. IRyS after that. Then who knows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12340899
>>12346261
"Mogged" is an overstatement, but between Ame pulling not one but TWO creative streams out of her ass and K**n introducing the best rigged Vtuber model ever as a fucking indie, Cover really is starting to look a bit pathetic. Fix the god damn rigging on the Live2Ds everyone sees every day (Gura's mainly but others could use it too), fund songs for the poorer/less successful members so they aren't spending as much of their own money, get more and better permissions, and give the members more freedom. If you remove the 3D concerts, 90% of Hololive content is still Apex/Minecraft/Nintendo games and that's just old and boring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12340899
Japanese holos are still better. I would know because i know Japanese and thus can form a cohesive opinion based on comparing their streams. Unlike you EOPs who can only watch the bootleg version of vtubers. I pity you, really. For being too dumb or lazy to engage in the pursuit of knowledge and just settling for the inferior product. And no need to tell me, i know i'll never be Japanese. And i don't need to be to have fun watching their superior vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12356481
The fired Coco you dumbass

[Anonymous No.]

>>12343287
Gura's guerilla minecraft collab

[Anonymous No.]

>>12357308
Man, I hope this isn't bait. It would be great to see a person who is this much of a cunt. Like totally no redeeming qualities whatsoever asshole. Perfectly failed abortion. The ultimate God's mistake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12341057
Except that Ame actually does creative and unique things.
Coco was just loud and obnoxious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12357437
It isn't bait. Its just me being an elitist. Because elitism is good. This is something 4chan seems to have forgotten, and why we have this newfag magnet abortion of a board. Regardless, i do genuinely maintain that the Japanese holos are far superior in pretty much every way to the English ones. Its like those Americans who won't watch foreign movies because they're too "weird", so they wait for a souless holiwood adaptation instead. Really sad.

[Anonymous No.]

Just watching up on the halloween stuff.
Why can't Ina pronounce words?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12340899
EN too powerfur

[Anonymous No.]

>>12357437
>>12357308
>JChad
>Elitist: Elitism is GOOD
AIEEEEEE MY KNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Though sadly my friend, you can never experience the rollercoaster of watching JP Vtubers only while not understanding a lick of the language

[Anonymous No.]

Did any JP comment on original April Fool's walfi/smol models back then, or on the 1 year anniversary collab?

How likely are JP members to watch the EN halloween collab? Do you think they care about EN as much as EN cares about JP members?

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>>12340899
I guess I'm the only one in this thread who fucking hates those 3D walfa tier models? This is the same garbage level as when Ame advertised that fucking smol Ame buggy platformer game.
If you're going to spend money at least try to get something better looking, I don't understand how anyone can seriously like those low quality effort resources. Is this the future that the EN fags truly want? We're going to be called baka gaijins again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12342880
Ame got diddled by one of her stepfathers, she's been initiated into the ways of grooming a long time ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12360309
i think its the opposite, JP mems watch clips and still find "same-chan" to be cute. but on your first question (separated by plebbit spacing) probably not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12344127
I was thinking too about Ame's camera work.
Is it possible to fly in VRC? So that she could place the camera in an elevated position when she needs a wide angle, rather than fumbling around with it at ground level and people getting in the way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12360309
I think two or three said something whatever 10 seconds about anniversary. That's it. But I bet that many more have seen the anniversary and many will see Halloween-live but are either too coward to say anything or too jealous. Who knows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12342476
Considering what happened with Kemono Friends, probably yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12357496
you truly a pathetic sad man. Hope you kill yourself already

[Anonymous No.]

>>12353320
If you dont like en why you here? Go be a faggot elsewhere

[Anonymous No.]

yeah, nobody has ever done custom models in VRChat before. le creatividad made the heckin epic kino again!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12360562
The main reason they wouldn't say anything is because they don't have anything significant to say about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12360354
You ever stop to think that looking that far into someones archives might make you a sad person?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12361161
>archives
You do know she effectively admitted to it on stream right?
You do watch streams and have been here for >6months, I hope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12361161
She's a public figure and she admitted it herself to a wide audience, dumbfuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12343994
>Ina Mori blowjob contest
Come again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12361563
Oh I definitely did

[Anonymous No.]

From what I have seen JP vtubers can be a bit more bitchy about their competitors. Some of their colabs have shown slight animosity to others. I see none of this with EN vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

Wow what a shit thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>12361224
>>12361340
She admitted it a super old stream from her past life,cmon dont act like it was something casual mentioned by her watson persona

[Anonymous No.]

>>12362427
She alluded to it when she recounted the toe cracking story, read between the lines

[Anonymous No.]

>>12362715
Sounds like another jp/vt reading something that isnt there scenario. Just face it, most of you people got nothing better to do than draw up drama from looking at wayback archives of a holo 5 years ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>12362984
It's always this shit. "This is the TRUTH! ... Well not really but I'd like it to be."

[Anonymous No.]

>>12342542
How dare he ask about a source! Retard should sift through every VOD to find it instead of asking people who might know where it is!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12340899
The only JP who's as neglected as EN is the most powerful one. Coincidence?

[Anonymous No.]

Assuming this isn't one big bait thread and some people are actually arguing in good faith, JP does not have every resource. Tons of Holos, such as Marine, Suisei, Pekora, Coco, and Haachama have talked about how stiff JP management is. Suisei wasn't even allowed to release her own original songs for a year. Pekora was in tears over a big project that was supposedly canceled last minute. Marine had to fund half of a big project out of pocket. Suisei battles for every camera angle on her concerts. All merch is funded by the Holo. Cover won't even get game permissions for them. Plus then you have Japanese culture autism of not rocking the boat, both on the Holo and management side. Coco was so revered because she actually was forward with management and would stick up for the other Holos. Remember this is a company that when Mel actually came forward and told them a manager was harassing her, they tried to bury it. Cover has never had the best interests or welfare of the girls in mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12363856
>I am an EOP clipwatching faggot who gets all his news from this site

[Anonymous No.]

>>12362984
>>12363409
>I'm autistic and cannot into communication therefore it isn't true
Btw, I didn't actually know she said this in her old persona, since I'd only done some minor reps last year then lost interest. I just inferred it happened through the stories she's said on stream.
The fact that you know about it says more about you though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12363964
NTA but nice deflection

[Anonymous No.]

>>12364066
I will now read between the lines. You are lying subhuman maggot whose one and only right is to be crushed under the boot of free thinking and truth loving men. You are spreading lies because Amelia once again organized something great and you hate her because she called your doxxing ass out and hurt your feelings. There. I read between the lines.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346025
I feel that that has more to do with the fact that Marine is (as far as I'm aware) the only Holo that has held down a corpo wage slave job and as such she knows how to play office politics.

[Anonymous No.]

>point out something that's incredibly obvious to anyone with eyes
>EOP EOP EOP EOP CLIPFAG

[Anonymous No.]

>>12364374
>You are lying
About what?
>You are spreading lies
Which ones?
>Amelia once again organized something great
Correct, collab was kino, props (buddumts) to her
>you hate her
Been a member for a year now, sure she's been in a bit of a low the past few months with her burnout, but I still like her
>she called your doxxing ass out and hurt your feelings
Did she actually call doxxfags out? Based
>doxxers
I just read up some of the posts in this board (aka got spoonfeed), I don't go searching for proof nor really spread them. Everything taken with a pinch of salt, of course.

As I said, not my fault you can't read between the lines.
If your point is that reading between the lines isn't accurate, reread the above sentence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12365133
Lies upon lies upon lies. When you read between the lines, it's the truth. When someone else does it, it's not. You're a shit liar trying to get away with your shit. Own up and walk away subhuman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12360494
That camera is one of the most retarded things, there should be a camera that you can place that takes your exact view and stays there when you leave that position, it would be so much easier to place. Then again it might be distracting to watch Ame flying all over the place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12343994
>Ina Mori blowjob contest
link or gtfo

[Anonymous No.]

>>12365527
>Lies upon lies upon lies
Again, point them out. Literally name one.
>When you read between the lines, it's the truth
Anon, >>12362427 confirmed that she has admitted it on stream, confirming my assumption in >>12361224.
To make it even more clear, "effectively admitted" =/= "admitted". When listening to the stream, it was apparent, to me at least, that toe cracking wasn't the only thing that happened, maybe not with the specific individual in the story, but any other man her mother brought. Therefore, I thought it was safe to assume she was molested. Well, that incident in and of itself could be considered molestation but anyway.
Therefore, yes, I have at least one instance where I have successfully read between the lines. You, however, have zero so far.
As I said before, not my fault you don't have the aptitude for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346782
A Way Out stream was great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12366214
How about why the fuck are we talking about some streamers past trauma? Who honestly gives a fuck, its her business dude, doesnt make it any better if she admitted it in some stream she did as a kid.

Just enjoy ame, or dont its not that hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>12367292
>why the fuck are we talking about
Because an anon asked
I accept your concession btw (if you're the same anon)

[Anonymous No.]

I realized recently that people on this board don't hype up Ame because she's a good streamer (she's one of the worst in her Myth in that regard), it's because she organizes and makes stuff like this possible. She's top notch as a "support" talent, drawing out the best in the other members.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12356776
Yes? You do know the girl only gets 35% of any superchat you send, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12367563
>She's top notch as a "support" talent
She's said so herself. Well, not the top notch part, just that it's what she likes to do

[Anonymous No.]

>>12356968
The 3D models
The props
The stages
The camera

[Anonymous No.]

>>12340899
Mogged in what sense?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12340899
idol outfits are hotter then that though

[Anonymous No.]

I love this beetch

[Anonymous No.]

>>12371312
Faster

[Anonymous No.]

>>12340899