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ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

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>>12198158
>>12198239
If there is a case to be made for someone that really inclined during her VShojo tenure that would be Ironmouse, but
1) It was from a little under 5k to a little over 8k, with a slight recent recline
2) I attribute that more to being buddies with Connor and the anitubers and sharing an editor with the former (which 'boxpushes' both together) than for being with VShojo
(will elaborate next pic)

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>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - OCTOBER 2021

1) Korone (Hololive) - 71k - Birthday 3D
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 86k - 3D Concert
3) Hal (Indie) - 57k - CR lottery
4) Noel (Hololive) - 101k - Outfit Reveal
5) Fubuki (Hololive) - 72k - Birthday 3D
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 45k - Minecraft (ENxSubaru)
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 93k - 3rd Anniversary
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.2k - Mario Kart 8DX
9) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53.4k - CR Cup Tournament
10) Luna (Hololive) - 57k - Birthday 3D
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 52k - TotsuClubhouse51
12) Subaru (Hololive) - 38k - Card Unboxing with Luna
13) Kanae (Nijisanji) - 54k - Outfit Reveal
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36k - Minecraft
15) Naraka (Nijisanji) - 53k - 3D Debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 33k - Blazing Sails Niji Tournament
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.4k - Judge Eyes
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.5k - Summer craft championship
19) Suisei (Hololive) - 83.5k - Outfit Reveal
20) Subaru (Hololive) - 26.4k - Minecraft
21) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 63.2k - Survival Island End Stream
22) Pekora (Hololive) - 32.2k - Minecraft
23) Hal (Indie/Merise) - 45k - Merise Announcement
24) Miko (Hololive) - 65k - Sportfes Announcement
25) Miko (Hololive) - 32.7k - Minecraft (Sportfes preparation)
26) Rushia (Hololive) - 30.4k - Umamusume gacha
27) Pekora (Hololive) - 50k - Minecraft (PekoMiko)
28) Hal (Merise) - 35k - Apex Custom (Stacked Pros&Preds)
29) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.8k - Minecraft

>Final deciding match for the end of october
30) Marine return stream vs. Nijirock free part
31) Mel's 3D concert vs. Kuzuha & Gen 1 concert

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>>12198457
As much as people frown upon this type of "interaction", the reality it
>it works
And it does for the same reason Hololive box push does
>people that get exposed to anitubers get Ironmouse recommended through Connor
>people that get exposed to VShojo gets recommended to anitubers through Ironmouse

IMO her incline came from said boxpushing and her recline can as well come from the cessation of the box push effect.

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>>12197063
Can I ask how you are getting the CCV data for NijiEN so comprehensively? Is there a site that gives the peak value for each stream in some easily viewable format or is it some manual process you are doing?

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>>12198552
He's scraping NijiMado, which has a .json file to grab and parse iirc.

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>>12198552
>Is there a site that gives the peak value for each stream in some easily viewable format or is it some manual process you are doing?
Mado (first post of every numbers thread has it linked): https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly

Their json for any given day is linked like this
https://asia-northeast1-niji-mado.cloudfunctions.net/hourly?date=2021-07-17&v=2

I currently have an automated way to use their json and Holostats json and HoloTracker json too for the subscriber numbers.
Soon I may add TwitchTracker, Playboard and Holoyzer to make charts of superchat and VShojo too.

Ironically that gives me a whole more hassle than just making a piyo replacement but it can be done in a jiffy and with spare parts of a Lada instead of committing to make something serious

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damn, kiaras stream has a lot of people waiting

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>>12198787
Chicken suffering is entertaining. She should lean into it a little more

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>>12198787
>Gura buff
>Playing horror games when she doesn't even touch them buff

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>>12198787
>chicken suffering
>gura laughing at her
recipe for numbers

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>>12199094
5k

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10k already, maybe the retarded chikin could reach 20k

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>>12199483
Not impossible, since she's running with a heart mo Igor, she hasn't played this before or really much of ANU horror games, and Gura is with her in a single-frame collab. Numbers baby!

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>H-Honorary Niji...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPndq0CDw4A

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oh right were the nijiEn girls ina DND camapign today?
anybody knows when it starts?

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Kiara in an outside run to take the day before it even started properly

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>>12199941
You made me thought they were collabing with Ina for a moment there...

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>>12198519
>30) Marine return
https://youtu.be/2KgBILPuajU
So it is on the 31 after all?

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Kuzuha will win Sunday, Even with the great guests Mel has she's just not popular enough.
If she beats Kuzuha I'll leave this thread forever in shame.

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>>12200293
https://youtu.be/Wgb3Az8w-Pw
Here is the return stream anon.

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It's not a viewcount, but bungotaiga is absolutely exploding in donations this month, mostly from this one apex-simp, and a 24 hour marathon he did releasing a new model.

He's at $250k and counting...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aju-gj4Dh4

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>>12200293
She has two, I assume the second is a waiting room she made for the period
>based on my N999 reading level
Senchou oyasumi naka no kyouryuu jou = (Cultural) Exchange place during Senchou rest?

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>>12200109
What is Kuzuha just randomly joined some bottom tier Niji without streaming his own POV and propelled them to #1 for the day? How much would people seethe?

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>>12200486
These guys better watch out, they got Veibae (?) with the oldest trick
>donate a large amount
>revert it afterward

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>>12200627
>How much would people seethe?
In this thread? Most people would rejoice (depending on how large the numbers), some would kneel and many would call "illegal view funneling"

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>>12200486
Furries are know for spending inordinate amounts of money on their hobby/fetish.

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Kiara hit 20k

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>chicken clearing 20K
the buff is real

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>>12201072
What would she have now without Gura? 12k maybe?

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>>12201143
The stream will never happen without Gura I guess lol

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>>12201073
So it's not a timezone problem then right? She can look at what happened in this stream, I hope it can help her to realize what type of streams people wants to watch

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>>12201835
Kiara having bad numbers because of the timeslot was always a big cope.

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Here is all of Kiara's streams over 20k in 2021

>>12201835
>She can look at what happened in this stream, I hope it can help her to realize what type of streams people wants to watch
You can only get a "horror novelty buff" once.

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>>12201835
>She will collab with Gura more after this

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>>12201835
>>12201910
Timezones aren't the only factor obviously, but at the same time daytime NA vs evening is going to hurt her numbers all else being equal. It's never just one thing

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>>12199849
Holomoms gen when?

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>>12201910
It's a contributing factor, not the primary one. Her content choices are probably the biggest problem.

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>>12201835
>what type of streams people wants to watch
The answer is obvious. More Gura.

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>>12202242
Her design and voice are the biggest problem

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Since this is the numbers thread.

Kiara just got 133 BPM heart rate on stream. What is the vtuber heart rate on stream record?

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>>12202379
People say that about Pekora and Miko before about the voice, but how they performed in streaming overcome the problem, same goes for Subaru.

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>>12200109
There's no way she's winning against Marine's return stream c'mon. Even a random Pekora stream will get more than that.

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>>12202533
Kiara actually seems somewhat fit, relatively low baseline and pretty quick recovery too.

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>>12200544
She's going to share what happened during her break (with her drawings depicting it)

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>>12202675
on the first or second stream?

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>>12202945
The exchange bit. She's going share(exchange) what happened to her

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>>12202533
>numberfagging heart rate
i think fauna got 150+

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>>12203176
https://youtu.be/j4W89RXpFbI?t=1313

Yep, she got 157. I'm pretty sure though that there is some JP Vtuber with higher BPM. Heart rate monitor stream isn't a new invention.

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>>12202538
>Pekora
Perfect design
>Miko
Baby fetish bait

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I guess we can assume Mel is in the "loaded" tier of Holos since she can afford LAM for the cover art and fund her 4th album.
Also wtf she has 4 albums.
https://twitter.com/ramdayo1122/status/1454077972718051331

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>You are king...
https://youtu.be/qNIhngowViI

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>>12202533
>>12203176
>>12203503
Again, nobody will EVER beat Nimu 170 heart rate, EVER EVER!
https://youtu.be/G7x16BVPJtI?t=333

>I'm a human too, I can make mistakes too, I didn't know she didn't wanted it!
>I want to help you, If I don't help her I'm wrong, If I help her I'm wrong!
>I don't know what to do
(heart rate reaches 170)
>and the fucking worst is that people say “you fucked up” and “it had to be Nimu”
(kek, that’s a Latin America meme from El Chaco del Ocho, implying the person is a screw up always getting into trouble)
>but I don't do it on purpose I want to help you!
>I get frustrated cause everything I do is wrong, anything I do is wrong, I'm tired of everything I do is wrong,
>if I share a streamer I'm wrong, If I don't I'm wrong, If I talk about a streamer I'm wrong, If I don't I'm wrong, if I help a streamer I'm wrong, If I don't I'm wrong, If I apologize I'm wrong, if I don't apologize I'm wrong!
>I don't fucking know what to do, I don't fucking know

That, incidentally, is why she inclined so hard lately. This clip made the rounds and more or less cleared her image from her previous dramas.

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>>12203580
>copyright claimed
Kek

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>Seaings are sleeping
>Gets shit numbers
Sasuga Sealen

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>>12203700
Oh yeah, those are some good numbers. 173 was the peak in the video.

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Kuzuha will get 80 to 90k because kanae got 52k for his outfit

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>>12203700
>cleared her image
jaja no

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>>12204161
To a certain extent. Whoever hated her will always but the new audience that got roped in by that bit won’t care about her past

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>>12203540
>I guess we can assume Mel is in the "loaded" tier of Holos
She might but from her recently abandoned side gig.

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>>12203818
If she ever stops Apex it's going to be numbers suicide.

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>>12204301
next week she will probably keep apex spam.
It is also a inide game so not a lot to do

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>>12203818
1400 now with a indie kusoge
not bad
>>12204301
she already get good numbers with other games, also timezone

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>>12204218
her incline is more about leeching other streamers

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>>12204157
I still think it's a 60k ish or below sort of stream. It's going to be competing with a ton of other Halloween events is it not? The outfit isn't necessarily new, it's existed for over a year, and the full design has been posted in Japanese subways for an entire month by now.

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>>12204425
Apex is the engine that drives the numbers for the other streams though. Collab with others in Apex get exposure and new viewers. Some of those convert into general fans and show up to other streams while some don't.

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>>12204684
exactly, is like a symbiotic fan base
she is smart to not rely only on Apex, she wont drop Apex but she will probably slow down a bit from time to time

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>>12203700
I'm trying to find the video, but one of the Omega sisters had over 180 when they pranked her by turning off the lights during VR horror
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNjTjd2-PMC8Oo_-dCEss7A/

we found it on a different thread but it was maybe a month ago.

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As much as Kiaras current stream is boosted by Guras presence she has to realize that horror is an extreme buff for her. If she forces herself to play a horror game every other month it will be a benefit for her in the long run.

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>>12203700
I'm just curious, can you rig this Heart Rate Monitor device? Otherwise, for a young adult (presumably), getting a 170+ heart rate, even when agitated, doesn't seem like a good sign for her health

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>>12205288
I recall when the meta for Hololive involved 3D VR horror
>then Luna fell from a chair and hurt herself

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>>12205364
She was in the car emotional peak of her career, it could (and should, btw) have ended up right then and there with another
>nimu bullies yet another midget
Her emotional breakdown saved her

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* NijiJP +EN right now *

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>>12201143
Without hura we would have 100k because we would have a holo having a heart attack live on stream

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>>12204809
Didn't find it, fuck it, giving up.

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>>12205571
Missed pic

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>>12205880
Chromatically similar squad.

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>>12205364
Skinny or fat or generally unhealthy people can have a resting heartrate of near 100, couple that with her basically having a panic attack on stream/being flamed in real time, anxiety can make you reach 200 bpm easily.

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>>12205880
NijiEN's ace...

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>>12203700

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>>12206258
Holy shit, she is The Architect muse, right? She must be

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ID girls are built differently aren’t they? They must hate numbers or hate numberfags

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>>12206757
its a premiere, they can listen to it while watching senchou

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>>12206258
Thank you. I kept mis-remembering who it was
>>12204809

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>Kiara over 20k
EGGS BTFO!
>drinks vegemite

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The day's off to a good start.

All that's missing is the random Toya stream at this hour.

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>>12203818
I'd usually watch her but this game seems like indie trash.

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>>12207725
She’s not declining tho, which is a great sign.

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Played with some numbers for Ethyria. Reimu is dropping like a rock and Millie is dying. Nina is almost trending upwards and Enna has been trending downwards but is close to an equilibrium.

Overall NijiEN is going down, Ethyria is not really to blame either. Rosemi, Selen, and Nina are the only ones showing any positive trends; Selen's is by far the sharpest. Finana, Petra, and Reimu are dying really fast. 1 star, 2 growing, 4 declining, and 3 dropping.

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>>12207696
He's MCing for the concert preshow later so I doubt he'll go live.

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>>12207891
>Played with some numbers for Ethyria
Make some pretty images and post in this imageboard.

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>>12207891
>>12208058
Like this one from last thread

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>>12208139
I only have shitty images I haven't dolled up.

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>>12208169
It does the job. What you using? >>12208139 is excel 97

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>>12203540
Gura now joins Calli and Suisei as the only Hololive members who have multiple songs at 10 million views.

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In Random big numbers of the day, MrBeasts, #TeamSeas video got 1.5 million views in 1 hour and the Fundraiser is up to 500k$ already.

Found at least 1 vtuber affiliated already, yes it's NuxTaku.

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>>12200633
I don't think he will. This dude has been dropping stacks for months.

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>>12208257

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how do we stop holoEN

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>>12208402
What

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>>12208257
>>12208402
Technically, there's also Hololive official.

Btw, with current trends, Suisei should have 5 videos over 10 million views by early December.

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>>12208457
Short version on her channel and the full version on the topic channel, which has more views and should be making way more money.

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>>12208444
Pekora...

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>>12208444
Gura STILL doubling every member in subscribers on the 30-day average. She is an enigma.

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>>12208634
She can't got much further without appealing to EOPs

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Ui's like-to-dislike ratio is very similar to Hololive's. This is the perk of being a Holoparent?

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>>12209941
Time for that duolingo!

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>>12207696
will Ina phasmo ft Gura beat chiken number?!

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>>12210429
a good indicator is if either of them beats kiara's 5k waiting room

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Kuzuha is debuting his female version L2D on Sunday so he's winning.

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>>12210643
The female niji is so trash, King decided to be one to improve the female niji number

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>>12208219
Just matlab's default plotting functions.

It's interesting that the third wave isn't nearly as destructive to the NijiEN environment as people make it out to be. Maybe it was just a sign that people should look closer.

I'm also looking to maybe start analyzing stream timeslots to see where the buff and debuff hours are for NijiEN.

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>>12210643
Ya RIP.
Maybe if it was a Marine or Peko 3D live, but a Mel live with stacked guests won't beat Kuzuha costume.

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To the Anon that do the graphs and ccv median of the month.
Do you use JST Time? Will the EN Holloween Party be included for October?
In JST its Oct31 but in others its Nov1.
Just curious

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>>12210950
pretty sure he follows JST

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>>12210722
I mean that shows steady numbers for Selen and a small to moderate decline for everyone else doesn’t it? Combined with their own small numbers I don’t think that’s what they were aiming for. Council seems to be finding an audience while reinvigorating Myth to some extent

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>>12210722
Petra views sure is dying though

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>>12210712
He was supposed to debut it in April last year. He's THAT lazy.

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>>12211070
When I do more complex curve fitting you can really see the stability for Selen.

It sure is nice being able to see the real effect of the debut buff. Ethyria didn't get much of on.

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>doing NijiEN's market research for them

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>>12211201
>He's THAT lazy
the unit didn't debut because of group infighting not laziness i will not let you badmouth my king like this

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>>12206757
That premiere is honestly still going to do really well, but yes it could've been timed better.

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>>12211070
Council reinvigorated previous subs who lost interest in Myth for one reason or another, but that kept up with Hololive news.

Council also seems recruited to be compatible with Gura, Ina, and Calli.

I think the future Gen 3 would recruit for talents that are compatible with Ame and Kiara.

Kiara really needs more friends in Holo so she stops seeking outsiders to collab with.

Also might improve her mood and make her less bait for drama clippers.

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The song isn't performing good

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>>12212230
i agree accept for the kiara part.

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>>12212347
Its not on Mori channel

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>>12212230
NijiEN is too new to try to bring back churned viewers.
Myth has had way more hype which leads to greater churn plus a whole year.

Also is anyone getting a boost outside of Gura? From my understanding most of the big numbers are minecraft and that probably has more to due with leveraging people's attachment to the jp talent.

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>>12212347
It's on a channel with 50k subs, anon.

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>>12212348
except, fuck my phone

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>>12212405
It's been 5 months for NijiEN. I know we shouldn't draw complete conclusions but nothing has made me optimistic.

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>>12210473
Gura had 10.5k waiting
Ina ~6k

But they were 5 minutes late.

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>>12212420
And it's a shit song.

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>>12212347
i subbed to both and i didnt know about it.
fuck YT algorithm.

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>>12213049
gura had about 6-7k on the mark

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gura Has like a 30 sec delay
so will affect her numbers

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>>12212405
I think Calli is inclining.

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if theyre doing this for friday, im thinking all holoEN might be trying vr on halloween event (not necessarily chibis though)

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>>12213741
3d debut for Council

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https://holo.poi.cat/stream/wSm0QC8JBdE
Ame decided to randomly stream her POV but she doesn't even have her avatar on screen.
Her median is going to be awful this month.

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>>12213810
nah from their puzzle pieces clues each of them has a "costume", so theyll probably use different and simpler default models, I think

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>>12213740
Declining slightly despite how much effort she's putting recently

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>Gura and Finana both do Devour collabs at the same time 2 days ago
>Gura and Finana both do Phasmo collabs at the same time today
Fish's scheduling is very unfortunate

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Shark devouring Fish as expected.

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Wtf Mumei? She had another stream of that watchalong. RIP to her average and median

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>>12214179
Guess I was wrong. She really didn't take advantage of the Minecraft buff very much, I guess.

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>>12214239
>Fish's scheduling is very unfortunate
need to copy the bigger fish schedule for max exposur-

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>Gura sub 20k
reclining... youtube in general is reclining...

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>>12215333
>youtube
if they weren't so retard in the first place

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>>12215333
>stream hatchet
eh, this is worth as much as a toddler's drawing to me

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>>12215333
-Guts live viewer numbers by changing what counts as a 'live viewer'
-Metric that depends on live viewer numbers to calculate drops as a result
Yea, that's a given.

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>>12215333
*Smack*
Please don't count the shark out so quick, she's already past 20k.

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Why do vtubers love Phasmophobia so much? It isn't even a buff game.

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>>12216023
-Easy perms
-Requires very little skill/focus, so you can pretty much chat while you play
-Everyone knows the game and its not a DEBUFF.

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>>12216023
4 player cooperative that can be set up and played quickly, and fished quickly when it's time to end.

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>>12215333
That is true

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Startup ENVtuber company Tsunderia announces their third gen, two of those members happen to be male. Here are the subs so far.

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nijien should've done this

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>>12216518
People seem to hate Valorant.

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>>12215333
That 13th of December drop.

Youtube did it to themselves.
Seeing the lower numbers got people skeptical and they didn't jump ship to Youtube anymore.

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>>12216692
Is that better or worse than normal for Tsunderia? They seemed to have dropped off the face of the earth since Kana fucked off and the rose bailed.

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>>12216692
>>12216710
wich day they will debu?

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>>12216806
the perseption of youtube a streaming platfrom seems to start to change tough.
Even critikal is calling out on twitch

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>>12216692
Hope YT doesn't cut their subs too much.
It's like kicking puppies at the sub 1k level.

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TimtheTatman regular viewership
>Twitch
https://twitchtracker.com/timthetatman
>youtube
https://playboard.co/en/video/3Ryw5bTZtqI

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>>12216984
>~30% drop
sasuga youtube

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>>12216692
Wow its kuzuha's white hair + rabbit. They want numbers on this dude. Jk

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>>12216984
so ~50k to ~35k peaks, a 30% fall. Close to what some other anons have claimed.

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>>12216692
Shit, Leos gonna debut again in English?

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>>12216922
Not really, from the start of 2020 everyone was saying YT could overpower the streaming market if they wanted to and in turn were criticizing a lot of the biased things Twitch were doing, but if your audience "looks" to be on Twitch and no one else is leaving, you don't feel like being the first to take that risk.

After Rae, Corpse, vtubers and even Pewdipie's Q4 2020 success, some were considering the move, but wanted some more features... then boom, metrics dropped for YT and outside of the vtuber community very few people apparently know it's because of YT itself. They just think it's because the Among Us craze ended... overnight, on December 13th.

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>>12217483
More like, Kanae and Leos.

Even then, no points lost for design, pretty recognizable.

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>>12217667
tim, dr disrepct and other started moving specially since twitch isnt bringing anything new to the table.
UI improvements are just a small price for better meontization options and rates and those will ocme to youtube sooner or later

[Anonymous No.]

>>12217858
The rabbit guy looks like pippa no?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12217483
It's like a Kuzuha x Kanae baby but rabbit themed, and can sing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12205390
>then Luna fell from a chair and hurt herself
I think you are really downplaying how much hurt she got from that. Incidentally I believe that's one of the factors speculated that led to the fallout with Matsuri since iirc there wasn't any mention of her checking up on Luna at the hospital whilst there was about how Subaru kept on visiting her. In retrospect, that incident was also the start of the SubaLuna pairing so in the longrun it might have been beneficial to Luna. Though I guess if we're talking of hypotheticals, who knows how things would have gone if Luna and Matsuri maintained their closeness, she might have still gotten as high or higher numbers as a duo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12216710
>males
RIP Tsunderia

[Anonymous No.]

>>12217896
Didn't Dr Disrespect get straight out banished from twitch under mysterious, possibly contract-related circumstances?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12218145
yeah he showed that youtube is a nice streaming platfrom. So people like tim and the other dude also jumped in once twitch was unable to offer custom contracts anymore.
I believe asmongold also talked about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12216023
Most vtubers suck at games

[Anonymous No.]

>>12218142
It was already RIP, Kana left about a year ago and all the other startups have been growing faster than they have. Time to try something new.

Do we have any data on the EN-JP startups actually?
I'm basing all my impression of this on Shiki, Luto and Nene's inclines, while i haven't seen much of anything from Tsunderia outside of the recent Miori shorts this year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12218401
Miori seems to be inclining nicely. What I want to know about is the Japanese indie Ribbon. I watched her occasionally since I'm a 35p and so is she so she draws Miko a lot. She used to get like 20 viewers however her last couple streams have been 200-300. Seems like a pretty crazy incline.

https://youtu.be/Z6YACdEOqkw

[Anonymous No.]

>>12216806
well twitch is also reclining

[Anonymous No.]

RRAT will be doing a cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pgyhFdjnbs

i dont see big numbers since it is shit song.
But still i preddict some 100k in the first 24 hrs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12218644
Also watch her from time to time as a 35p, she was apparently featured on Kson's newscast which got her a few hundred daily viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12218644
>20 to 200-300
>1000%
that's huge jump

[Anonymous No.]

>>12218644
Seems like it all started with this stream 5 days ago, don't know how the word got out though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrLsbO1P_MI

[Anonymous No.]

>>12218792
>Mix: Ouro Kronii
Gurl thats very brave

[Anonymous No.]

>>12218792
Hey fuck you it's a cute song

[Anonymous No.]

>>12218792
>1st cover
>seasonal themed song
ngmi rat

[Anonymous No.]

>>12218792
Seems Kronii did the mixing, hope she'll also release her own original song soon and make her own Covers. This could really increase the rate of song releases in HoloEN if they just have the girls like Mori and Kronii do the mixing, and maybe Sana and Ina could make the art/animation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12218792
curious about Bae recorded singing

[Anonymous No.]

>>12218145
Most accepted rumor is that he lied about getting a Mixer offer to get more money out of twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12216692
They stole NijiEN’s thunder of getting the first corpo male vtuber in the west.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12219811
What does NijiEN even have left? Their only draw now is the individual streamer, they have no draw as a collective anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12198519
>Pekora: 8
King btfo

>October
niji: 5
holo: 21
others: 3

[Anonymous No.]

>>12219345
Hopefully it's good. She deserves the incline because she's really working hard to take advantage of the platform Hololive gave her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12219123
Is this why she's taking so many break?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12220451
>pekora 9
numbers anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>12220563
She will be streaming less next month

[Anonymous No.]

Reimu: 1.02k Karaoke
Finana: 2.14k Phasmo collab
Enna: 401 Superchat reading

[Anonymous No.]

HoloEN Average of Peaks (Oct JST)
Gura: 22174
Kronii: 11724
Ina'nis: 11083
IRyS: 9891
Mumei: 9838 (she had 10k but today's 2 watchalong fucked it)
Mori: 8844
Bae: 8793
Fauna: 7944
Kiara: 7511
Ame: 7426
Sana: 4980

*mumei and irys will have another watchalong today so rip average
*graph anon, will you include the holloween party of en in october? in JST its oct31
*just add all the peaks and divide it. Don't know how graphanon do the computation. Curious on how the graph will look like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12219811
>They stole NijiEN’s thunder of getting the first corpo male vtuber in the west.
Well it depends on what designs NijiEN goes for, If NijiEN go for really western-centric designs and concepts, they can win over the west,

[Anonymous No.]

>>12222074
what exactly are really western-centric designs and concepts for chuubas?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12222074
I really doubt it. Vtubers inclined because of the otaku/weeb market.

Most normies who get filtered by anime just go for normal streamers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12212347
Yeah I had high hopes that Mori can carry but the 5:30 debuff is too much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12216866
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em7V2GajgVA

[Anonymous No.]

>>12222382
Belmond Banderas
Capeshit
cowboys
western myths, legends etc
non human designs like Snoopy or Red XIII

[Anonymous No.]

>>12215333
>Gura sub 20k
But that's not true, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12220993
Why is that? She streams a lot now so streaming a bit less won't hurt her, however nosediving like Sana/Kronii would kill her momentum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12222841
>November 6

Isn't this the day for sports fest?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12221634
Do these new wave girls get enough superchats to warrant full blown SC readings? Just tack it onto the end of your standard streams instead of wasting a streaming slot on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12223291
Fauna reading SCs will probably have more viewers than their debuts so what's happening in the big leagues won't affect their numbers much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12221634
Getting trounced by a rebroadcast of a Moona stream from 12 hours ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12223291
yes it is

[Anonymous No.]

>>12223291
Different times. Sports fes is morning time for burgers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12223352
The point of SC readings is they're casual zatsudans and usually leads to more SCs.
Talk about a funny life story or rant about something relatable and people will SC more than if you were just playing a game.
HoloENs just turn off SCs during reading streams for some reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12216518
>>12216753
everytime he plays valorant i deliberately do whatever this thread says makes your view not count when watching. i may just be a single schizo but it's out of principle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12223525
>HoloENs just turn off SCs during reading streams for some reason.
It's because they don't want to have 10+ hour streams reading perpetual stream of superchats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12223678
Maybe just watch good vtubers you actually like instead of letting numbers consume your mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12223987

[Anonymous No.]

Strong start for holo
>Kiara - 21.3k
>Gura - 20.5k
>Duck - 19.4k
>Shion - 10.2k
>Ina - 9.5k
Top heavy

[Anonymous No.]

>>12223987
i like him i just hate valorant

[Anonymous No.]

>>12223680
Kek that's how Watame became a SC millionaiire.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12224210
it's all the same for holofags, don't watch what you don't like, come back when you do. nothing wrong with it

[Anonymous No.]

>>12224121
mad respect to this numbershizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>12224210
I hate Valo too but he was going crazy, all the FPS watchers who stay for him to die all the time in solo Apex, and leave when he's clicking heads in solo Valorant, lost for once

[Anonymous No.]

>>12223678
Based, honestly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12221941
Very strong...

[Anonymous No.]

Not bad for a rebroadcast, also she might hit 900K before the cover premiere

[Anonymous No.]

>>12221941
>HoloEN would have 5 people above 10K if they don't do watch-along...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12221941
Bae incline hard asf

[Anonymous No.]

Kuzuha gonna stomp on 31st fer sure

[Anonymous No.]

>>12223067
Belmond is just what people want to believe are western-centric designs but an ikemen design like most top tier NijiJP dudes will still be the better chocie for a NijiEN male.
>>12222467
This. I feel most male vtubers aren't that different from traditional male streamers, probably helps that they are toooons of traditional male streamers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12221941
Agreed with this anon >>12225115. Maybe take all watchalongs out?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12225984
Stomp is something like this
October 19, 2021
>83,165: Suisei (Hololive)
>26,822: IRyS (Hololive)
OR
October 07, 2021
>93,378: Subaru (Hololive)
>33,716: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)

You really believe Kuzuha will stomp even though Marine will have a stream that day and Mel's 3D with big guest?

[Anonymous No.]

I would actually kneel to mel and officially call her a 2nd stringer if she manages to win in 31.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12221941
Median is better for this case

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210950
>Do you use JST Time?
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>12226187
Are you seriously comparing an outfit reveal done their local primetime to an offcollab karaoke done at the crack of dawn for their audience???

[Anonymous No.]

>>12226502
Nta but he's just using an example of a stomp.
With both Mel and Kuzuha having special events on the day it's very unlikely for either of them to stomp each other

[Anonymous No.]

Man... Matsuri really fucked her numbers.... what was the final blow? I think it was the hand incident.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12226723
>what was the final blow?
Cancelling regular streams while spamming APEX on and off channel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12226792
well yes but she's been doing that for a whille, but still was able to get together around 7-10k for singing streams. She hasn't been able to do that recently, stuck around 3 or 4k

[Anonymous No.]

>>12226843
I think it was the Haachama thing. She was collabing a lot wih outsiders and then pulls out a menhera outbursts in public against one of the girls she says she is close with. Made her look disingenuous. All of her collabs right now feels a little bit fake. She needs to keep collabing with Holos to build that reputation up. And yes also the hand thing. But that is minor. A lot of normie japs defended her. Even on clips that were specifically using that incident to disparage her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12226843
You can track her streak of recline to the championships she participated across the year. Last straw was VSaykou, whose timing more or less coincided with the incident. She usually bounced back from it because of special dates and concerts and what not but this time there is nothing so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12198519
You nerdfuckers make vtubing like a fucking sport

[Anonymous No.]

>>12219811
They'll be fine

[Anonymous No.]

>>12226723
Being too isolated from Hololive and collabing too much with outsiders that no one in the Hololive fandom are interested in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12227049
What thread are you in? This is a fucking sport nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>12226967
>I think it was the Haachama thing
>All of her collabs right now feels a little bit fake. She needs to keep collabing with Holos to build that reputation up
True, things seems to have turned really cold for her within the company, she looks more isolated and the collabs look “mechanical”.

Here is what could save her: a really good and spontaneous collab with Haachama where all hatchets are buried

[Anonymous No.]

>>12227080
Just like Selen...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12227049
>nerdfuckers
kek, what does that even mean?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12227175
Vtubers are nerds irl

[Anonymous No.]

>>12227146
Her Ina collab was great. A Haachama collab would do wonders for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12226262
>2nd stringer
Kneeling is fine but this takes it a but far. Regular 10k+ for a 2nd stringer at least.

[Anonymous No.]

Even Youtube Japan has abandoned Nijisanji, lol.

https://twitter.com/YouTubeJapan/status/1454266837127020544

[Anonymous No.]

>>12227146
Not happening anytime soon imo, Matsuri is too much of a menhera to do it properly, and Haachama likely is quite cold to Matsuri right now, between unwanted touching and everything else.
She'd rather hang out with uni friends and enjoy her life than care about this stupid menhera bitch who has a track record of being a bad friend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12227157
>Being too isolated from nijien
>Collab too much with outsiders
And she becomes the savior of nijien

[Anonymous No.]

>>12227305
>Even Youtube Japan kneel to the goddess of Hololove
nijibros...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12227305
>YoutubeJP promoted Holo
It isn't a dream, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12227305
I usually avoid Youtube Japan talk since that twitter account is barren when it doesn't tweet about vtuber stuff, but this is just some weird obsession.
>Even Youtube Japan has abandoned Nijisanji
You guys are going to seethe again when YTJapan tweets Niji stuff again later this week (they'll likely tweet about Kuzuha's Halloween stream), so why care about what YTJapan thinks at all?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12227305
Sora really did struck gold with that stunt

[Anonymous No.]

>>12227146
>>12227298
>>12227306
They talk to each other privately

[Anonymous No.]

>>12227448
>holobronies are retarded
more news at 11

[Anonymous No.]

>>12227483
Of course they do but Haachama unavailability is not a meme, she really took some time off streaming to deal with her studies (and other issues) and that means no profissional contact between them for the period.

Given that those girls in many times don’t even have the phone number or LINE from each other that surely mean whatever issue lingers may remain unresolved for long.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12227157
hololive is a tourist magnet. Festival will increase her share of gachis by getting exposed to constant holo churn. NijiEN isnt a tourist magnet. To expand, Selen needs to branch out of the NijiEN roommate circle

[Anonymous No.]

>>12227157
Except Selen is more popular than her company so it doesn't really matter for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12227579
Imagine being a cover exec. You spend thousands of dollars in setting up your first paid concert after Bloom. You chose Gen1. It all goes well. And then this happens. It's just really funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12227604
Selen is slightly more popular than her whole branch as a whole. Not the company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12227305
More like Hololive finally did something funny or cool. Good for Sora for being recognized.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12227739
From1st went out without a hitch. It was Matsuri bday that got an arrow to its knee

[Anonymous No.]

>>12227604
>Except Selen is more popular than her company
Holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>12227739
Pretty sure it was Matsuri who wanted to push for Gen 1 concert, actually kind of a good call on her to do it as soon as they could before relations could have gone sour. Otherwise if it was through corpo they would have had gen 2 concert done next instead of it being gen 3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12227604
It really doesn't help that their EN management are full of incompetent fucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12227229
I wanna be a nerdfucker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12228015
Are you sure about that?? Where did you get this info? She may have expressed her desire to have a Gen1 concert but I doubt she had an actual influence towards moving anything. I know they get a feedback form that they submit to management that lists what they want to achieve for the year and stuff. That's how Subaru got her gig for the Anime ED for example.

[Anonymous No.]

Today's superchats

[Anonymous No.]

>>12228247
Kash King Kalliope

[Anonymous No.]

>>12227604
I don't know that Selen is more popular than Kuzuha

[Anonymous No.]

>>12228244
Well got this back from a random thread in /jp/ months ago so I can't remember the specific date now. Just that she was the one who wanted to do a gen 1 concert and even like invested on it or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12227350
Selen will use the male wave to grow even stronger, if it comes at the expense of her branch-mates so be it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12228247
>Eclipsed Pekora in subs for 2nd in Hololive / 3rd vtuber
>Eclipsed both Flare and Watame in total SC to become 10th overall for vtuber
Reaper inclining in most aspects except CCV

[Anonymous No.]

>>12228656
>except CCV
She doesn't do anything remarkable enough to gather a huge crowd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12214091
I'm assuming it is just a png slapped on their 2D models like Gura's T-rex last year. Defaults would be less accepted than the Walfie chibis they have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12228656
Not sure if total watch hours counts part of ccv

[Anonymous No.]

>>12228656
Shit timezones for EN viewers.
Compare her VOD views with other Holos of her CCV level and you'll see Mori's fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12228244
Pretty sure Matsuri was originally going to have a sololive, but her manager asked wrt 1st gen concert vs solo or something like that and Matsuri chose to push for a gen 1 concert...
Found it, here. From Lyger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTD9FX3nB7M

[Anonymous No.]

>>12228656
>HoloEN makes in top 10 SC soon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12229110
>Without 3D debut and concerts

[Anonymous No.]

>>12228821
Agreed with >>12228983 but then we'll timeloop the CCV vs vod views again.
We all know a lot of her subs are only for music and they just show up for premieres and special events. But that's fine since she's so successful at other metrics that even with middle CCV she's the 2nd most successful EN and top 10 in HoloPro

[Anonymous No.]

4 POV Uno again for NijiEN and other branches.
Elira: 1.4k
Rosemi: 811
Hada: 351
Siska: 324
Could've been 2-3k if it was 1 POV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12218792
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09xVC-xun_c
Looks like the link got changed. If anyone cares here is the new one. 7 minutes to go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12229238
Mori and Suisei are like the top 2 vtubers in terms of views for originals and no one else is even close right ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12229267
At this point, you might as well do a daily midget report for Prism and Tsunderia.

[Anonymous No.]

Bae is getting a ton of supas right now. How much has she made already?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12229267
>4 POV Uno again for NijiEN
kek, WTF WHYYYYYYYYYY

Stop being dumb, girls! Even Roboco can easily get 20k on fucking UNO collabs because she's an habitual host and gather funny people in her channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>12229331
Both originals and covers. Gura is strong with songs released on her channel but that's only 2 so not enough data point.
Mori~Suisei > (Gura) > huge power gap > Marine~Ayame~Aqua

[Anonymous No.]

>>12229347
The point is NijiGlobal nerfing their numbers again with unnecessary split POVs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12229356
How much now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12229356
>>12229507

[Anonymous No.]

>>12229507
I saw on Hololyzer the amount was 67,304 Yen

[Anonymous No.]

>>12226723
5k is good for recent matsuri

[Anonymous No.]

>>12229328
Ew, what is this countdown

[Anonymous No.]

>>12229694
I like it more than space walk at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12221941
>Mumei is killing her median by streaming 3 watch-along in a row
I don't want to hear any Peko Kuzu debuff games excuses anymore

[Anonymous No.]

Prediction on HoloCouncil's first ever cover number after 24 hours?

[Anonymous No.]

6k watching Bae. Premier starts. 6k watching premier. 6k still in Bae's channel. What's going on, tab-out theorists?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12229892
200k-ish

[Anonymous No.]

AHAHAHAHAHA RAT MV BE MOGGING IRYS MV
JESAS

[Anonymous No.]

>>12229892
I'll say 300k. Bae is one of the weaker singers? But it is still the gen's first cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12229997
irys is a fucking flop, she should be grateful she's in hololive

[Anonymous No.]

Baelz is making over 1k now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12230073
No, she is average to slightly above average among the holos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12229930
WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12229930
Premier had 5k when Bae had 7k.

https://holo.poi.cat/stream/_JU912irn-Y

6k - 6k seems a fair split. Karaoke / music audience doesn't overlap much with zatsu/gaming streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12230073
>one of the weaker singers
not to start the "best singer" time loop again but you are insane, lol. She is easily #3 in EN behind IRyS and Gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12230073
Bae's in the upper middle as far as EN singers go. She has one of the smaller fanbases though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12230073
>Weak
Based thread only reader

[Anonymous No.]

Multi tab doesn't affect the viewer count, she only lost 1k to the premiere, probably people on mobile

[Anonymous No.]

>>12230193
I'm pretty sure basically everybody in that stream listened to the song. There was no reason not too. What I think happened is a lot of people brought the song link up but kept tabbed into Bae's stream to see her reactions.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm laughing right now. There were people saying that Baelz was the lower tier of Hololive. Look at her now, she's at mid tier quite deservedly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12230206
Eh her debut singing moments weren't really the best. Could just be nerves but her voice switching wasn't as clean as Risu's.
I didn't watch her karaoke though so that is my bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12230167
Very small dip, vast majority were able to maintain a presence in both streams. I'd guess the dip is phonewatchers that can't tab and had to manually leave her stream to watch the premier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12230299
I have an alternative theory: premiere watchers that were also in the stream just left it on the background window (it's a song) and remained in the stream to see her reacting to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12230204
Come on anon, she has neither the tone nor the consistency of Kronii and Mumei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12230280
Risu is in ID. Bae is probably the best singer in Council with Kronii/Mumei somewhat lower and Fauna/Sana not being particularly good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12230299
>>12229930
It's also possible for people to watch the premiere without previously watching her stream.
She got 10k views the moment the premiere ended despite it peaking around 6k, which is classic youtube fuckery anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12230364
It's a song with a MV, what's more likely, keep watching Bae avatar moving around for no particular reason while listening to the song, or watch the song and leave Bae unmuted to hear if she said anything? I know which one I did at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12229892
First hour will paint a good picture but I'd say 150k-200k right now. Small dedicated fanbase to loop an already low replayability song.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12230483
Hence "competing theories". Either could explain what happened and, considering it is not possible to know for sure, this "experiment" ended up proving nothing

[Anonymous No.]

>>12229331
Well you have Pmarusama and RIM
https://youtu.be/3V9952osjnc
https://youtu.be/F9eCSWEJYjk

[Anonymous No.]

One year ago plus a few days (November 5) is the date Fubuki became the first HololiveJP streamer (and the fourth vtuber overall, after Kizuna, Kaguya and Gura) to reach 1M subs.

Look at where they are now

[Anonymous No.]

>>12230686
Time is a cruel mistress.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12230686
I could've swore that Korone beat Fubuki to become first holoJP to reach 1M.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12230686
You forgot Korone

[Anonymous No.]

>>12230668
Rim has one video above 5 mil and you linked that only and from what I remember pmaru said she's not a vtuber right ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12230668
It's hard to argue for PMaru, as a vtuber, to be able to claim the feats of her PMaru Utaite non vtuber phase on her channel.
Her rant about Sony fucking her up was pretty much her debut as a vtuber (casting out the shackles of her former life as Kaguya)

[Anonymous No.]

>>12230686
It was expected anyways.
Pekora and Marine get 2-3x Fubuki's CCV so it was only a matter of time until they passed her.
Not like Fubuki even fell off or anything, she's doing as well as she was 1 year ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12229930
Premiers don't work the same as livestreams is a theory

[Anonymous No.]

>>12230751
>>12230758
Wait what, Korone beat Fubuki in this timeline? WTF, is this some sort of Berestain Bears stuff?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12230668
RIM just has that song though since it went viral on tik tok. The rest of her songs aren't even close to that kind of viewership.

Pmaru, on the other hand, is indeed a monster but she isn't really a vtuber for the most part.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12230820
Look at where HoloJP streamers are now. some 20 over 1M, that's the point

[Anonymous No.]

>>12230686
Hololive has 4 vtuber almost reaching 2M while Nijisanji only has one at 1M. This proves that Nijisanji has a more organic growth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12230751
>>12230758
>>12230843
brb, will check other stuff to see when exactly I crossed timelines

[Anonymous No.]

>>12230933
I don't recognize you. Slow and steady anon? Forcefully acquire fans anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12230978
>Implying they're all not the same anon

[Anonymous No.]

The best thing about Bae's cover was debunking the tab-out cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>12231002
This one looks just someone taking the piss tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>12231049
Except it didn't. Based on >>12230167 it looks more like it confirmed it

[Anonymous No.]

>>12231106
that might just be the twitchcoper anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>12231049
Tab-out was "debunked" by every watchalong and 24-hour bgm stream that people just play in the background when doing other shit.
In other words, it's the same shit as always: Youtube CCV system is full of shit and inconsistent as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

9PM JST: Marine return
10PM JST: MC galore
11PM JST: Sport Festival preparation

[Anonymous No.]

Why are there still people still insisting that tab out thing is a conspiracy when loads of evidence have been shown already?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12229267 (me)
1 hour update:
Elira: 2382
Rosemi: 1277
Hada:567
Siska:515
These aren't even bad numbers. They could've been 4k+ if it was 1 POV.

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Will Izuru's 3D debut get 10k viewers since he's one of the more popular members?

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>>12231299
Yea, we have some streams that definitely indicate SOME kind of tab-out culling may be taking place, but I'm not sure if premieres are the same as normal streams for culling, and who fucking knows what the exact parameters they use to 'cull a view. It's likely that for watchalong fuckery that they don't cull all views that are tabbed out but only a portion, but again, this mukru opaque bullshit. It's annoying, YouTube please why do you have to be this way?!!?!?!!!

[Anonymous No.]

Subaru is truly a masterful talker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlWCmD3e4UY

There is a reason her talk streams are getting such high numbers, her suffering is delicious

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>>12231369
Because there's no good evidence for it. All that's ever shown are small partial dips in situations where the actual majority of the audience of any given stream would be expected to refocus their attention.

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>>12231370
Sorry but niji will take the day with the concert

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>>12231594
Remember what happened the last time you said this?

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>>12231594
Their pico party didn't even hit 10k. What's your prediction for their concert? And how do you justify that number?

[Anonymous No.]

Here is the full set of stream reservations made so far.
Curious to see what numbers would Okayu Minecraft bring

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>>12231646
I kneel to the Nijirock killer!

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>>12231594
People have been under estimating Marine's return stream for a while in these threads. I'm fairly confident with 80k minimum and it could go higher.

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>>12231685
Better yet, did Okayu even play Minecraft in 2021 yet? All I can find are these streams

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>>12225630
>>12221941
I'm quite impressed with Bae's growth, desu. It could be confirmation bias, but I remember that her numbers in 2nd and 3rd week (when debut buff started fading) were on the weaker side of EN2 - as in, "barely better than Sana's" kind of weak. Was worried that she would fall into the same fate as Anya or Petra who tried to double dip on both JP and EN market, only to end up with neither. Yet, looks like she ended up grind it out and seems to have gathered decent amount of followers both during JP and EN hours. Haven't checked her median, but her average seems quite decent here

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>>12231393
Are those blue pirate’s regular numbers?

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Returning with unarchived Karaoke at a shit time for NA. I'll be impressed with 15-20k peak

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>>12232174
>shit time for NA
Shit time for Western Europe AND Japan as well.

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>>12232174
lol feels like every time anons make predictions for Sana, it always falls short because of her insane amount of anti-numberfaggotry.
I'm going to lowball it and predict 10k to avoid disappointment.

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>>12232268
Prime SEA time though kek

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* NijiEN day so far *
Clearly shuffling around a 5k audience between the girls, with whoever punches the weaker getting scraps out of it

[Anonymous No.]

Mumei 400k

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>>12232306
Seconding this one. Return stream is a buff and all but she doesn't have any strong hardcore fanbase to pull from for a return stream. Hopefully the casual EN fans will care enough.

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>>12232309
>Prime SEA time though kek
SEA time is the same as Western Australia time, isn't it?

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>>12232309
12 AM is not prime SEA time anon

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>>12232329
Multi POV Uno?!

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>>12232456
You can't make this shit up

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>>12232364
EN is clearly doing very well as a group so I'm not trashing anybody when I say this but its crazy how far ahead of everybody both Gura and Mori are. From subs to channel views to everything.

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>>12232426
11pm JST is 9pm for GMT+7 and 10pm for GMT+8 which are majority of SEA. Not sure what country you're thinking about for GMT+10

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>>12232174
10-12k

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>>12232587
I don't know why people are trashing that schedule. It's still 9PM during SEA and AUS time. I'd say that's primetime as well. Plus, she might catch some euros in the afternoon.

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>>12232174
> Weekday
> Morning time for NA
Sana is cursed. It's better to downplay your predictions on her.

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>>12232587
was looking at the wrong date. Guess you're right then

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>>12232753
Then she will only get 2k for karaoke. Screencap this.

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>>12232456
Maybe because Ban and that other indog could really use the extra stream income, but if they put it on one of their channels no one would watch.

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>>12229892
>>12230590 (me)
33k views for the first hour with around ~4-5k views per hour pace after some refreshes.150k is doable with NA waking up and JP checking the song throughout the day

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>>12232364
Ame needs an original song. You don't need a good singing skill to produce a decent original song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMYIam2RFkg

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>>12232456
I don't get it why wouldn't you have multi-POV uno you can only see one lot of cards on each view?

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>>12232552
Calli's CCV is just average >>12221941

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>>12231685
Korone return to Minecraft at 6am jst peaked 22k, this will be huge

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>>12233271
Calli gets a pass because she's obviously more focused on her music

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>>12233271
And? When you factor in everything she is solidly #2 in EN behind only Gura. Her channel is powerful.

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>>12233359
I don't see Korone, retard

[Anonymous No.]

>All these replies with no reading comprehension

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>>12232384
I didn't get to listen to Sana's karaoke since it was unarchived but from what ive heard she's pretty bad at it so also not expecting much. Id go for like 15k though.

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>>12233998
>she's pretty bad
Peak SOVL

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>>12233998
She got sovl that rivals Ame, so her karaoke stream wasn't that bad.

[Anonymous No.]

numbers from a jp clipper https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMBwu_ExOpLvg30-j0SIbFw/community

DeepL: How long have you known about HOLOLIVE? (Figures in parentheses are for reference only.

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>>12234401
Unsurprising results, given the rise in viewership for Hololive during late 2019/early 2020.
I do wonder how the consumption of Anime has changed with the rise of vtubers. Has it been streaming significantly affected? Which genres are affected the most? Etc.

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>>12234401
Gen 3 was truly the strongest gen.

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Is twitch subs the same as YT's membership? If so, why are twitch streamers more inlined to thank months long subscriber as compared to vtubers on YT? I don't hear them thanking one year members or read their message.

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>>12234581
Gen 4 debuting was a big catalyst, gen 3 reaped most of the rewards

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>>12207891
Well Rosemi only gets about +467 daily subs as shown on socialblade, which is a bit of a decline.

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>>12228247
Nenechi is having a strong end of the month, she won't be nearly as high as she was in September but she's still well on course for top 10 this year which is really crazy for someone who earned less than Polka in 2020

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>>12234780
It's just a difference in culture. Just like how YouTube membership only streams are far more prominent than Twitch sub-only streams (do they even exist? If they do they aren't really a thing people do), sub-thanking/membership thanking is different between the platforms, especially with gift -sybs and gift-sub leaderboards.

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>>12235152
>do they even exist?
Yeah, they do. You also get no ads with channels you sub to.

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>>12234780
Twitch subs have little to no benefit, acknowledging them keeps them coming back.

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>>12235491
Makes sense.
Yea, it's the presentation of subesaages, with the resub for x time etc and whatnot that just makes the culture different between Twitch and YT. None of that gets shown on screen on YT unless the streamer has chat on-scrren, whereas I see re-sub/sub messages on screen all the time with Twitch. Means that sub-thanking is going to be prominent whereas memberships get a simple thank you and then continue on with the stream.

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>>12234401
here's another one from the same clipper https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMBwu_ExOpLvg30-j0SIbFw/community

DeepL: What is your hololive guess?
-box push
-gen/group oshi
-more than one
-one
-none

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>>12235738
>What is your hololive guess
The fuck is that. I'm gonna assume oshi.

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>>12234780
youtube doesn't save membership messages. You need a custom program to scrap chat and log memberships if you want to read them out specifically.

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What happened to Pekora recently, really?

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>>12232456
Are you dumb?

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>>12235890

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>>12235833
on the latest one, her controller was broken so she didnt even get to play, she's about to start the stream now though since she bought a new one
on the rightmost one she already finished the main story she's just playing the sidequests
the minecraft and pubg ones i didnt watch

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>>12235785
You're right. Fucking eops.

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>>12235833
>Everybody was looking forward to PekoMiko
>PekoMiko finally happened
>People satisfied and leaved
That's why you should leave people hanging or the hype will die soon just like Pekomama

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>>12235918
Elira reclined so hard. I remember her averaging 2k - 3k median

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>>12235833
>side quest of a already finished game
>not her usual timeslot
>yeah pretty low
>her controller is fucked and she didn't get the chance to play. She still at the start.

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>>12236016
Isn't she still averaging 2k?

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>>12236101
nah shes a sub 2k now.

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>>12235994
retarded threadreader

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>>12235994
>Everybody was looking forward to PekoMiko
No one was looking forward to pekomiko you retard. That's why it was big news when it happened. It was unexpected.
There are various reasons for these low numbers mostly game choice. Minecraft a little was low, but its not an unusual number for her.

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>>12236016
Overlap hurts her and her game choice has been extremely bad for numbers.
Unlike HoloENs and Selen, Elira doesn't have a buff game or content to fall back on for a guaranteed numbers.
She also doesn't do variety streams as much as Pomu or Rosemi to spice up her content. Doing JP Zatsudans as variety is self-defeating for numbers.
The closest would be her karaokes, but those have been losing some novelty due to 3/4 of Ethyria being singers.

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>>12236337
So, she became a collab monster with other branches?

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>>12236475
She's always been the most active NijiEN for international collabs.
Selen is climbing up there with her Apex collabs, but Elira collabs with JPs/IDs/KRs in 8-9 different games.
Pomu and Finana can't speak JP so someone in Lazulight had to do it.

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>>12235738
Makes me laugh when EOPs here think oshi is like waifu and you can only have one when almost all nips have several

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>>12236683
Only niji fans make that retarded assumption. Other companies employ box pushing so their fans tend to have multiple oshis.

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>>12236870
Naw, you forgot the "drama" when this place tried to push that Kiara dropped Pekora as her favourite after she called Watame her oshi and some people actually believed it and asked her about it.

Anyways, Nijirock starting in 10 mins.

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>>12236903
>Nijirock

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Doesn't seem like social distancing is enforced and it looks to be almost full with 3 mins left.
Cover should grow some damn balls and go big for future lives if this Nijirock lineup can sell out 11k seats.

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>>12237194
Anon, anykara is just greedy for any money they can get. 10k is easy if you have 7 livers with an established jp fanbase. Holo concerts could sell out too, if they wanted.

Also, no social distancing again...

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>>12237194
Doesn't look full at all.

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>>12237274

[Anonymous No.]

This might be the second time holo concert at the same time as niji concert.

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Off topic, I'm watching the free part concert atm just hoping that it won't pass Kiara's outlast stream last night, but what would happen if Mori actually rapped in a 3D debut concert? The 7 on stage can't even pronounce english right and I just realized it was english lyrics kek. Would Mori take the throne for best vtuber concert in the future or would opinions still differ saying that Kizuna AI might've had the best concert?

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>>12237242
>No social distancing
>Maximize their revenue from the concert
>In the worst case, help spreading Covid and thus, prolong nip’s anti-covid measures (traveling restrictions included). Indirectly prevent HoloEN from getting their 3D concert and models
Pretty smart move actually. Based AnyKara

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>>12237372
>just hoping that it won't pass Kiara's outlast stream last night
Too late, it already passed 22k.
>what would happen if Mori actually rapped in a 3D debut concert
She 100% will.
> Would Mori take the throne for best vtuber concert in the future or would opinions still differ saying that Kizuna AI might've had the best concert?
This will forever be subjective so why are you asking it in a numbers thread?

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I swear I've seen the exact same people everytime I watch Niji's concerts.

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>>12237583
lol Joe, Ryushen and Akina are also in Raindrops and Kagami is probably the most popular musical Niji.

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>>12237194
>>12237286
>>12237414
Who the fuck said this gonna beat Suisei's first 30 minute concert numbers?
Hahahahahahahahahaha

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>>12237286
Plenty gaps. Didn't they do a lottery for the leftovers?

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>28k
Kneel to marine already nijifags. 7 people can't even beat 1 watame.

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>>12237626
You can look back at the previous threads.
I think literally no one except for some random "Niji will win today with concert" posts, but ya it peaked at 28.2k on my end, which is lower than Watame's 28.8k.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/QT4fYk6aR9k
Among Us

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>>12237626
>Multiple top nijis
>Stil can't beat just one Comet

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>>12237647
Watch as they try to deflect it with Star's 3D debut

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>>12237687
mel nooooooooooo

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>>12237687
>Aqua, Shion and Nene
kino

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>>12237687
MELLLLLLLL, YAMEROOOO THIS FAGS AT LEAST DO IT AN HOUR LATER

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>>12237689
>Multiple top nijis
Kek you can argue Kagami is a top Niji, but everyone else there is mid-tier at best or a literal 2view.
It's why it was baffling that Anycolor charged tickets at that price and booked a venue this big for this 1-man carry lineup.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone keeping track of Nijirock's Twitter hashtag?

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>>12237704
>>12237721
Mel is an hour earlier, retards

https://twitter.com/yozoramel/status/1452634462521421827

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>>12237635
ACTUAL RECLINE LMAO.

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>>12237194
shit stream quality

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>>12237740
Well they can fill up 10k capacity venue with mid tier Nijis and expensive tickets so it works out I think?

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>>12237750

[Anonymous No.]

Solid box pushing for Hololive.

Do a hype collab so Mel's live can be the waiting room.

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>>12237647
I really don't understand how their management could be this incompetent. Couldn't even beat a solo concert of a low tier Holo.

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>>12237821
Mid-tier.

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>>12237792
Thanks. I assume #ふたりでつくるホロライブ doesn't trending?

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>>12237647
of course they can't. Free portion are for poorfags and EOPs.

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>>12237821
Not sure what's more retarded, you thinking management has anything to do with a free portion of a concert featuring a bunch of 2views and a Nijimale doing meh, or you thinking Watame is a low-tier Holo

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>>12237855
yep esl-san

[Anonymous No.]

Here comes cope
-IRyS

I remember their karaoke relay had 30k to 50k (Toko) ccv

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>>12238015
>50k (Toko) ccv

[Anonymous No.]

>>12237647

[Anonymous No.]

Wait
Marine comes back the same day as Mel's 3D concert?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12237792
Let's see if it can beat Watame (60k) or Suisei (120k)
>>12238015
>50k (Toko) ccv
That hoshiyomi buff kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>12238082
U dumb?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12238082
no, marine's comeback is in 3 hours mel's concert is tomorrow

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>>12238082
You're confusing the convo above with AmongUS not Marine return

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>>12237687
What was holoen total ccv and highest peak again?

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>>12238234
>Total ccv : 106k
>Highest peak : 29.5k (No imposter)

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>>12237687
I wonder if the marine return buff will carry over to this event.

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>>12237687
They're using the proximity mod again.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjlMPu5sEgw
>Almost 10m views and inclining the last two weeks for a non FOTM
I swear to god if they are meeting up next month and they are not discussing about making a whole fucking EP together it will be the biggest waste of potential in all of Hololive.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>12238493
>PekoMiko
>SuseiMori
Pink x Blue duo strong

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>>12238532
Is there someone who can pair up and boost Luna? I guess Subaru is close to her and kinda blue-ish...Holo has too much blue and not enough pink