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12182550 No.12182550 [Reply] [Original]

Why is nepotism so rampart in vtubing?

>> No.12182590

>>12182550
I know Elira got her sister into nijisanji but that was more of her getting in with her own Apex talent.

>> No.12182663

Recs mean a lot in all industries. I work at a fortune 50 company and whenever there is someone to be hired on any of our local projects we all get asked if we have recs. Elira may have given a rec but she didn't hire anyone.

>> No.12182735

>>12182550
I don't know how old you are but the world more or less runs on nepotism. Vtubing is just an extension of that general rule.

>> No.12182757

>>12182663
Still nepotism.

>> No.12182804

>>12182757
Doesn't affect you if isn't in the public sector

>> No.12182876
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>>12182804
What the fuck did he mean by this bros?

>> No.12182885

>>12182735
Suck when you have no connections

>> No.12182934

>>12182735
Must be sad to live in a backwater country.

>> No.12182960

>>12182934
I have never been more curious in my life. Which country are you from?

>> No.12183122

>>12182735
This. With vtubing specifically, accidentally hiring a schizo or a sex pest can fuck up your company, it makes sense to prioritize someone that your employees can vouch for.

>> No.12183161

>>12182960
Take a guess nigger.

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>>12183161
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt because I figured there was no way in hell an American would be fucking stupid enough to imply their country doesn't run on nepotism.

>> No.12183226

>>12182757
Welcome to the real world.

>> No.12183239

>>12183161
indonesia

>> No.12183246

>>12182550
Nepotism is rampant in Asian companies in general. Or you can extend that to every modern megacorp. CEOs, executives and management would rather prefer giving high positions to their friends than to someone actually competent. Neofeudalism.

>> No.12183299
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>>12183161
anon nepotism is so rampant in your culture that it can even get your supreme leader into office...

>> No.12183528

meritocracy (hard skill) doesn't matter much in a sector where soft skill matters a lot

>> No.12183557

nepotism has different levels and not all them are immoral

>> No.12183657

>>12183557
>not all them are immoral
Wrong.

>> No.12183660

As an entertainer your job is to make emotional connections with complete strangers, to make them like you. What does it say about your ability if you have no such connections with any of your supposed peers who you have a lot more in common with?

>> No.12184251

Because /vt/ learned a new word and doesn't know what i actually means

>> No.12184379

>>12184251
Well everyone complaining about """nepotism""" is either a NEET who has never worked a day in their life or works the register at a gas station, so it's not like their opinion has any relevance.

>> No.12184900

>>12182804
I worked in the private sector, they expect results.

>> No.12184983

Why do people keep giving (you)s to a faggot that keeps asking the same question?

>> No.12185168

>>12182735
This. If it was just happening in vtubing or entertainment in general maybe this world wouldn’t be such a shitshow.

>> No.12190058

>>12182550
All other things being equal, would you rather take a leap of faith on some rando or go with someone you know will work well with your current employees?

>> No.12190123

>>12182550
Because you watch corpos.

>> No.12193547

>>12182550
Welcome to the entertainment industry

>> No.12193633

>>12182550
>Why is nepotism so rampant in corporations
I dunno, maybe its more fun to work with a friend than it is to work with a complete stranger.

>> No.12193716

>>12190123
lol
the indie scene is incestuous as fuck

>> No.12194100

>>12182550
Lazy recruiters.

>> No.12197424
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>>12182550
Because humans are lazy and corrupt, while hyperpragmatic companies seek to. maximize efficiency and reduce all risk. This was always how the world worked. People never truly change.

>> No.12198395

>>12184379
>or works the register at a gas station, so it's not like their opinion has any relevance.
Anon, I think people trying to make an honest living, no matter how small, are the most likely to understand this. A lot ofvpeople regret not making more connections in life.

>> No.12198470

>>12182934
Cool it with the anti-Semitic remarks.

>> No.12198493

>>12182550
Anon, cronyism is what the entire entertainment industry is essentially built on.

>> No.12198509

>>12182550
Because it works and is less risky than hiring randos.

>> No.12198562

>>12182550
You mean making connections and networking that ultimately lead to an opportunity, in this case in the form of a job?
Many such cases. A tale as old as time.

>> No.12198619

>>12183299

"Rarely is the question asked, is our children learning?" ~ G.W. Bush

>> No.12198784

The only one that got in through nepotism is Petra. Rikkun is her uncle

>> No.12198847

>>12182550
Why are bad baits so rampart /here/.

>> No.12198944

>>12198509
fucking lol vtubers would not exist if the entertainment industry worked properly. I'm sure copying a failed model will go really well for these companies.

>> No.12199160

>>12182550
Because it unironically works.
Peko was hired because of Migo, Korone and Okayu was a package deal, and many more.

>> No.12199472

>>12182550
Because Vtuber companies are too scared of hiring talents that will hurt their image.

>> No.12199587

wait til you find out about outside of vtubing

>> No.12199637

>another socially retarded neet confuses nepotism with social networking

>> No.12199668

>>12182550
nepotism is rampant in literally every industry
also
>rampart

>> No.12199892

>>12199472
Literally every competent company in every field tries to avoid hurting their image.

>> No.12200085
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>>12199637
Explain the difference.

>> No.12200090

>>12182757
Nepotism isn't the same as getting in because of your professional connections. If I introduce a guy to my company because I believe he can do a good job based on what I know about his skills, it's not nepotism. If I introduce a guy to my company just because he is my friend and I have no idea how good he is, it's nepotism. At least get it straight

>> No.12200136

>>12200090
nep·o·tism
/ˈnepəˌtizəm/
Learn to pronounce
noun
noun: nepotism

the practice among those with power or influence of favoring relatives or friends, especially by giving them jobs.

You are wrong.

>> No.12200145

>>12183299
>>12198619
And he still wasn't even as bad as Reagan.

>> No.12200200

>>12200085
nepotism would be: you hire someone because theyre your cousin/brother/son in law/daughter's boyfriend etc even though theyre a retard who cant do anything and are useless
getting hired because of good networking would be: you made friends or a connection with a guy and displayed some level of skill or competency and the guy who your friends with has a perception that you can do the job
Obviously you would rather hire someone you think you can trust than some rando who has paperwork saying he theoretically could do the job

>> No.12200275

>>12200200
Both are nepotism. If you know someone professionally or personally and they acquire a position through your recommendation or direct influence, that is nepotism. Their level of competence is irrelevant.

>> No.12200280

>>12182550
The people who ask this question either live in a shithole or have never experienced college.
You know why you go to college besides get worked like a dog? To make connections
4-6 years just to make connections in hopes that one will snag onto the hook and you can start a normal life
You fail to make connections you might as well have failed college despite getting good grades

>> No.12200312

>>12199637
>Social Networking
Someone making an effort to make connections with those in their chosen field.
>Nepotism
Someone getting a job because they know or are related to someone in the field coincidentally.
Sana is 100% a nepotism hire and I say that as a fan of hers.

>> No.12200335

>>12199160
unironically Korone is the only one in the JP branch and it's a miracle she did well.

>>12200085
miko told pekora she should apply for a job, social networking. korone got hired without an actual audition because she knew people, nepotism.

>> No.12200351

itt: seething 2view whores who got passed up by niji and hololive and need to find an excuse as to why their worthless ass got ignored in favor of people with demonstrable skill, talent, or work ethic

>> No.12200357

>>12200275
it also means that nepotism isn't necessarily a bad thing

>> No.12200419

>>12200136
Nope. That's what I said. Nepotism is, quoting it, "the practice among those with power or influence of favoring relatives or friends, especially by giving them jobs". In other words, it's nepotism when the person getting the job, got it because they are "relatives or friends" of those with influences. However, when someone get the job because of their skills, it isn't. Whether this someone might be friends or relatives of those with influence doesn't matter as long as that identity didn't play any significant part in the decision over their skills

>> No.12200459

>>12200335
Yes because it never became apparent through the hiring process that Pekora and Miko knew each other beforehand. Nepotism.

>> No.12200539

>>12200357
I never said it was. It's a part of human nature.
>>12200419
See this post:
>>12200275

>> No.12200574

this is literally how the world works anon

>> No.12200740

>>12200459
pekora knew aqua too. But I guess miko had more influence than aqua lmao.

>> No.12200854

>>12200740
They all know each other. Every mid to high level JP vtuber knows each other from NND etc and now that same degree of nepotism is making itself apparent in the EN scene with Council and NijiEN.

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either haachama onlygot into holo because of hoshikawa or hosikawa only got into niji because of haachama, i dont remember which is which though

>> No.12201383

>>12200312
As far as I've heard Kronii is basically the exact same case as Sana though less of a "childhood friends" situation. Iroinically fitting to her character, despite her sweet appearance Ina is a string puller behind the scenes using her influence to get her dyke bffs hired.

>> No.12201458

>>12182735
this, every job I've had I've gotten through a friend mentioning to their boss they know someone who could fit the position they're hiring for
cold applying is abysmal and the slightest flaw and they drop you

>> No.12201539

I don't have any connections and never will so I guess I might as well just go werewolf at some point in Minecraft. This world wasn't made for me to exist in.

>> No.12201575

>>12200854
okay I can see why you morons think everything is nepotism now.

>> No.12201946

>>12200419
If they have the same skills that other applicants but the reason they got selected over the others is because they are friend with someone is not nepotism?

>> No.12202419

>>12201383
>ina was the manipulator all along

>> No.12202639

>>12202419
Ina is mad sussy amogus fr no cap

>> No.12203188

>>12201091
Hoshikawa failed to get Haachama role, so she became Hoshikawa instead.

>> No.12203618

>>12201383
You say dyke bffs as if that's the worst she could have done to cover (or as if cover weren't already crawling with girls trying to cash in on yuricucks)
Wasn't she associated with tranny shark pre-hololive?

>> No.12204194

Is it really nepotism? There are things like proper equipment, speaking ability, and so on that make an important baseline for indies. But pass that line of normalcy, pass that line of mediocrity, what really matters is getting people to actually FIND you. So you network and you become friends with the people you do, or it happens the opposite and you become friends on some gay discord and then collab for visibility. If Holo, Niji, whatever seeks talent only from relatively popular indies it's inevitable that they all know each other. It's also inevitable that they share a lot of the same personality attributes, sense of humor, talents and whatever.
tl;dr The indie scene is going to provide an endless amount of women that can sing or draw, have little interest in games, are mildly funny, and they all know each other.

>> No.12204407

>>12204194
the real redpill is compared to twitch and mainstream streamers, most vtubers are years behind on stream quality and ability. They're just mid tier streamers for weebs.
Even the top streamers in hololive have trouble being as entertaining as the more successful cam streamers

>> No.12204955

>>12204407
>the real redpill
Fucking lol

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Thread full of nepotism hires desperately trying to call themselves anything but that because they're scared of a word every adult grows to accept by the time they turn 24.

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