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>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:05:24 2021 No.11759361 >>11759323 Matsuri over Pekora.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:05:45 2021 No.11759381

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:06:15 2021 No.11759414 OP is a SEAnigger.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:07:51 2021 No.11759500 irys cry superchat fly

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:09:59 2021 No.11759649 >>11759500 Why is she crying? Sorry, can't watch stream now

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:10:44 2021 No.11759695

>>>11758431
Imagine being a poor Niji EN chuuba
>thought you made it big
>actually midget in numbers
>numbers keep reclining as niji won't stop releasing more chuubas
>can't take a break since niji will have released two more waves by the time your break ends
>have to keep streaming nearly every day to keep yourself relevant
>have to keep another job since midget numbers don't pay enough
They are gonna graduate in a year or give up and just stream twice a month as a hobby once they turn to 2views.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:13:59 2021 No.11759864 >>11759414 How do you know?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:15:23 2021 No.11759918 >/#/ Where are you from? https://strawpoll.com/c64o8zgrj

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:15:38 2021 No.11759935 >>11759695 If Holo management was actually strict every Holomem has to stream Minecraft 4 out of 7 days and Ayame can't only stream twice a fucking month >>11759864 Broke the streak of using out of context or non-number related pics. High chance.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:15:42 2021 No.11759939 >>11759323 >shuba's MC mogged Kuzuha's Apex what a shame

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:17:18 2021 No.11760028 File: 407 KB, 1080x696, Screenshot_20211021-115623~2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11759649 Mogged

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:17:32 2021 No.11760038 >>11759649 overwhelmed by feelings of appreciation for her fans then she sings aikotoba while crying

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:19:57 2021 No.11760168 >>11760038 >overwhelmed by feelings of appreciation for her fans THE BEST HoloEN member.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:20:32 2021 No.11760201 File: 15 KB, 323x308, 516161.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11759918

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:21:52 2021 No.11760256 >>11759918 >>11760201 >beanerniggers and SEAniggers A thread full of nothing but subhumans as expected

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:22:30 2021 No.11760284 >>11759695 They still have to option to spam merchs like voicepacks to keep themselves afloat. Not only would it alleviate their current financial problems, it would also contribute to their merchs numbers which is a win for us too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:23:32 2021 No.11760324 >>11759414 Wrong I don't have funny images, that's the best that you will get from me

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:23:33 2021 No.11760325 >>11759695 The lesson here is don't join niji if you want to treat vtubing as a full-time job. You will never make enough to pay your bills.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:23:47 2021 No.11760336 >>11760284 depends on how many people buy them i'm pretty sure most of the niji en limited voicepacks didn't sell out, and they were only selling 100 of them

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:24:37 2021 No.11760374 >>11760336 Hey, you're not supposed to point out that Niji's merch cope does not work on ENs

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:25:21 2021 No.11760409 >>11760325 Yeah, but at least the very first waves like Pomu was in, they had no idea realistically how high their numbers would be. In hindsight that's obvious though and those auditioning will take that into account.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:25:35 2021 No.11760416

It seems like a pretty busy day for HoloEN. While the number individually can be a a bit low, there's still a collective 35-40k watching streams though. It's still higher than when HoloMyth was the only EN gen. Despite the trolling about Council's numbers being smaller than Myth, I think both gens do a good job of expanding the collective audience during JP midnight to 2PM. The goal now is not just to be big, but also allowing any potential curious viewers to jump in a Hololive stream at any time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:25:49 2021 No.11760429 >>11760336 Yeah, only Selen managed to sell all of them in two days

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:26:04 2021 No.11760436 >>11760284 Elira's birthday came and went and there's no merch.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:26:07 2021 No.11760441 >>11760168 do you really believe it

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:26:37 2021 No.11760463 Why holoniggers talk so much about NijiEN when they aren't in a competition with hololive? Why are you so scared to talk about Vshojo instead?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:27:12 2021 No.11760485 >>11760463 Vshojo fans actually know their place in the hierarchy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:28:17 2021 No.11760526 File: 1.13 MB, 1401x1096, 1634715343549.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11760485 Yeah, at the top of the declining holobronies

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:28:36 2021 No.11760538

>>11760463
Caring for midgets is never a bad thing, NijiEN was never in competiton with HoloEN to begin with. Way out of league.
>Vshojo
Twitch numbers. Maybe this thread will finally compare them 1:1 when YT implements a raid system like Twitch.
>>11760441
I would had they not gave her a debuff model and killed so much of her potential, fuck you Redjuice

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:28:40 2021 No.11760539 File: 57 KB, 1292x494, 1634716755116.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11760463 >Raidshojo

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:29:10 2021 No.11760560

>>11760409
People took it into account, that's why wave 1/2 didn't get any big time vtubers applying. Everyone knew Nijisanji was gonna be fighting an uphill battle getting into the market so late and with very little cultural footprint in the western entertainment scene.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:29:50 2021 No.11760582 >>11759695 Do NijiEN talents still work a 9-5 job? I know Pomu needs her insurance but I thought she was the only one.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:30:05 2021 No.11760590

>>11760463
Because Vshojo is actually respectable and there's no reason to fight them.

NijiEN are just leeches trying to become Holo-lite instead doing what actually worked for them in JP.

It's like when LoL and Dota 2 fans bonded over trashing HoTS.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:30:48 2021 No.11760633 >>11760463 No one cares about vshoujo except the people who watch them, and they mostly don't even come to this board, and the ones that do don't leave their dedicated thread.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:32:09 2021 No.11760691 >>11760633 its also pretty funny that nijifags constantly scream about muh freedom when realistically its vshojo that has the most freedom

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:32:45 2021 No.11760716 >>11760560 Better than being a two view. Hakos isn't doing great, some Nijis beat her, but at least she collabs with 2 of the top 4 female streamers in the world so there is a path to climb.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:32:58 2021 No.11760724 >>11760526 Seethe more, nijinigger, while Sony chuubas and Crunchy hime are gunning for that third spot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:33:14 2021 No.11760738 >>11760691 NijiEN can't even sing English songs. What's the fucking point lol.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:33:22 2021 No.11760746 >>11760336 That's what happens if you only attract casual fans.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:34:22 2021 No.11760788 I guess this is IRyS highest superchat stream huh, just cry and get money

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:34:27 2021 No.11760790 >>11760463 /#/ talks about Edengumi even though they have midget numbers too.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:34:46 2021 No.11760802
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>>11760539
>the average alone beats what Ina, Irys, Ceres, Ame and the rat midget with a batallion of people in her stream got today
I don't feel so good holobros... can the Vchad incline be stopped? We are on a permanent downward slump while they are skyrocketing. It's not fair.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:35:00 2021 No.11760811 >>11760790 They didn't have midget numbers on debut, right? They just crashed hard if I remember.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:35:21 2021 No.11760826 >>11760463 >Twitch numbers Can't be compared directly to YT numbers because of fuckery on both sides.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:35:25 2021 No.11760831 >>11760746 >Casual >Barely any tourists Nah they just don't have enough gachis to sell to.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:35:54 2021 No.11760847 >>11760788 She has a lot of gachikoi. Also $4500 isn't that much money.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:36:19 2021 No.11760863 >>11760802 that 9k is higher than any nijien will ever get in their career

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:36:39 2021 No.11760880 >>11760429 Selen sold hers in two days, but Petra and Rosemi didn't manage to do it even after like a week.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:37:21 2021 No.11760907 >11760802 For the last time that graph includes everyone in the branch Had you put everyone in Vshojo together and put them in the graph they wouldn't look good as well thanks to the dead weights pulling them down

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:38:35 2021 No.11760968 >>11760429 >two days >Holos limited merch sells out within minutes and the stock is more than 100. (800 Ayame limited merch sold within seconds after announcement/ Gura's nendo sold out within 2-3 hours)

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:38:51 2021 No.11760982 File: 55 KB, 1080x397, Screenshot_20211021-023745_Chrome.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11760802 >incline

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:39:17 2021 No.11761005 >>11760968 s-slow and steady...

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:39:50 2021 No.11761032 >>11760526 This is the Pomunigger/Kuzuhafag and this is his new out of context screenshot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:39:51 2021 No.11761033 >>11760863 >b-but niji You should really be worrying about Vshojo instead of letting some midgets living rent free in your head. They are the ones who are going to overtake holoENs spot in the West if their decline continues (and it will).

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:40:22 2021 No.11761052 >>11760907 Aren't Veibae, Nyanners, and Ironmouse their only heavy hitters. What's the numbers for the other girls?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:40:23 2021 No.11761053 File: 152 KB, 1143x1287, FCDYSJYXIAUCVG1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11760968 >implying i care just happy for her

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:41:02 2021 No.11761081 >>11761053 Good answer

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:42:43 2021 No.11761139 >>11760802 >beats Ina Where are vshojo medians in this chart btw?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:43:17 2021 No.11761161 >>11760968 Real merch is better than stupid voicepacks. Do any of the Niji EN have physical merch yet?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:43:25 2021 No.11761169 >>11761053 Love you too Selenfag. I actually love that she's breaking out even if I don't like her stealing Ethyria's numbers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:43:40 2021 No.11761175 >>11761033 Is Nyanners more well-known than Gura?

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:43:49 2021 No.11761182

NIJICOPE LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>percentages
>honorary *insert name here*
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:44:22 2021 No.11761195 >>11761052 Between 2-5k depending on the stream for the rest of them, with higher spikes for events or collabs where they're the only POV.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:45:06 2021 No.11761222 >>11760463 >NijiEN aren't in a competition with hololive? >most their fans literally old or current Holofans niji cope is so sweet

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:45:29 2021 No.11761228 File: 24 KB, 258x356, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11761033 doubt

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:46:03 2021 No.11761252 >>11761175 On twitch? Maybe. Even on youtube she's relatively well know, since she's been around forever and has some popular content like her Seiso song. Most people who know one or the other probably know both.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:46:09 2021 No.11761255 >>11760538 >Vshojo >Twitch >holo >yt

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:46:48 2021 No.11761282 Sometimes I wish Youtube doesn't fuck with CCV numbers and Twitch raids aren't a thing so we can actually compare HoloEN and Vshojo in good faith. Then we can all laugh at Nijifags.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:47:03 2021 No.11761291 >>11761052 >Other members are midgets don't count !!! Vshojo only have Nyanners & Ironmouse & Veibae !!!

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:48:03 2021 No.11761330

>>11757030
For the uninitiated, "box pushing" isn't just idol shit like >>11757176 and >>11757492 mentioned, but the particular term does come from there. In the west we have similar terms but on different types of context:
>flagship store
>blue chip brand
>halo product
>vendor lock-in
They all essentially mean the same thing: a very important thing that helps create awareness of the public, not just towards one particular object, but to a whole ecosystem of directly related/interconnected objects.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:48:03 2021 No.11761329 >>11761252 I only knew Nyanners from her Pomf Pomf song.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:49:24 2021 No.11761377 >>11761252 But how is she compared to Gura?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:50:36 2021 No.11761428 >>11761330 I remember reading on vtuber-matome(inb4 >vtuber-matome) that Niji fans in JP were quite disappointed that Nijisanji was doing the box pushing holoshit with NijiEN instead of playing on Nijisanji's strengths.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:50:50 2021 No.11761442 >>11761228 How are we going to numberfag these Choco tier numbers

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:51:04 2021 No.11761451 >>11760691 >NijiEN >freedom Selen asked her manager to Allowed her to stream Apex ONLY 1ce during her "chill week" , because she was grinding Ranked for her future collab

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:51:39 2021 No.11761472

>>11761377
I assume Gura is more well-known solely due to the fact that Youtube has more people on it.

Also YT algorithm has clearly favored Gura a lot of times. Most recently the ankha dance and 2snacks animations have gone viral.

Has Nyanners gone viral in the past year?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:52:32 2021 No.11761506 noticed alot of korean donations on Bae's stream. Is she attracting alot of korean viewers?

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:52:33 2021 No.11761509

>>11761282
Yeah, its clearly a salty Nijikek who keeps bringing up Vshojo. It would be great if the Holo and Vshojo fans could just unite to shit on the Nijikeks and their small numbers. The problem is that Vshojo fans generally don't wander out of their thread. They are actually much more well behaved than the Nijikeks in that regard. Instead of flooding the board with dumbass idiotic threads all day they keep it in their thread. Wish the Nijikeks with small dog syndrome would learn to behave themselves like the Vshojo fans.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:52:48 2021 No.11761519 Why cant holoen pick a fight with someone their own size? Are they really that afraid of gen 3?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:53:57 2021 No.11761563 >>11761519 >afraid They've not broken 3k CCV since their debut. Also thank you for your contribution to the list

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:54:07 2021 No.11761570 >>11761519 There's no reason to fight with allies lol. Whoever wins that fight, Hololive as a whole still wins

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:54:26 2021 No.11761580 >>11760968 Mori also sold out her anniversary merch in less than a day at a price of 14,400 yen..

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:54:32 2021 No.11761581

>>11761377
IDK man I don't have a magic "who's more well-known" device on me at the moment. Use your own best judgement, if you care about it. Overall, in terms of humans on the planet knowing the entertainer exists, it's almost certainly Gura because of Japanese/international awareness of her.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:55:33 2021 No.11761616
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>>11760716
>Hakos isn't doing great,
>6,294 / 9,341
> 5,147 / 6,607
> 4,740 / 5,654
>7,067 / 9,175
>3,718 / 4,193
> 3,721 / 5,662
>2,589 / 3,127
>3,820 / 5,104
*last few streams with NO collabs
>some Nijis beat her
you just accidently did not write nijiEN*, right?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:55:40 2021 No.11761620 >>11761519 Nah, Gura vs. Pekora only happens on slow days when the Hololive fans are bored. When its not a slow day and we can all shit on Nijikeks together all of Hololive is united.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:57:18 2021 No.11761677
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>>11761509
>Vshojo gets brought up in a negative light in every single time by seething holobronies who only watch kiddy family friendly content for babies
>"Why don't they post outside of their thread"
Truly, it's a mystery.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:57:28 2021 No.11761686 >>11761519 wtf is this question?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:58:23 2021 No.11761717 most "Nijiniggers" are just false flag holobronies, trust me

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:58:41 2021 No.11761730 >>11761033 >ou should really be worrying about Vshojo nah you dont. twitch audience does not cross with YT1

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 05:59:27 2021 No.11761750

>>11761616
In super chats I mean. Hakos doesn't have more than that and similar membership numbers, maybe a slice from the merch the council got. I'm just saying it is a comparable position but Hakos has the benefit of collabing with Pekora, Miko, and Gura whereas most NijiEN members are waiting for Kanae to throw them another bone.

I feel wounded by NijiJP's betrayal. They don't reach out often and I feel like they lost interest because NijiEN didn't get a Gura or a number shattering star.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:00:00 2021 No.11761769 >>11761677 Why won't Nijifans do the same then?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:01:01 2021 No.11761807 >>11761519 Gen 3 is better but they don't speak english

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:01:17 2021 No.11761821 >>11761519 I'd take HoloJP Gen3 over most of HoloEN and wish them the best. We're all good friends with all holomems except chumbuds seem to hate other holomems.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:01:33 2021 No.11761830 >>11761053 true happy for u >/#/ off topic

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:01:34 2021 No.11761833

>>11761750
Well, Holo also gives Baelz a salary, lmao. Also Kanae said he was open to collabing with any EN who asks. He collabed with Selen multiple times even though Selen doesn't speak a lick of japanese. The other Niji ENs are just a bunch of idiots.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:01:40 2021 No.11761835 File: 639 KB, 1440x2320, 716152739292.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11760716 >Can nijien combine even beat Bae alone, /#/bros?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:02:37 2021 No.11761870 >>11761750 That's just how Nijisanji is. There's like 200 of them, they don't have time or interest to handhold everyone. Niji EN does for now but when there's 30 of them in another year/year and a half it's gonna be the same way.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:03:31 2021 No.11761901 >>11761835 Nyanners and Ironmouse get more than that by themselves without needing 50 other people in their stream on vc.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:04:48 2021 No.11761946 >>11761833 Selen's ping is dogshit. Kanae is doing gods work though. In may I thought there'd be NijiJP collabs all the time and some of the NijiEN members would be regularly a part of that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:05:08 2021 No.11761955 >>11761870 niji really did a number on their brand image no one gives a shit about chuubas with your brand on it if you shit them out at that pace the niji buff is only good for like 1 month

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:05:49 2021 No.11761981 >>11761870 You say that but if NijiEN had HoloMyth success NijiJPs would be lining up around the block for interaction.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:06:35 2021 No.11762012 >>11761901 >50 other people in their stream on vc OMG the cope

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:07:41 2021 No.11762045

>>11761901
Do you realize what you are saying? Bae is on the lower end of Hololive (although I think she has massive incline potential) and you are comparing her numbers to the aces of Vshojo. You should be comparing Nyanners and Ironmouse to Gura and Bae to somebody of equal standing in her company like Froot or Zen.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:08:16 2021 No.11762067 >>11761901 >without needing 50 other people in their stream on vc. kek, weren’t the current peaks and renewed interest for Vshojo coming exactly from having outside guests (not even vtubers) on their Minecraft servers?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:08:42 2021 No.11762079 >>11761946 >I thought there'd be NijiJP collabs all the time You thought Niji's clique culture is all meme? kek

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:09:12 2021 No.11762094 File: 103 KB, 783x591, Screenshot_20211021-030632.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11760716 Wave 3 didn't even beat Omegafaggot yet

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:09:32 2021 No.11762101 File: 33 KB, 1142x91, 1634792304743.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11761835 I think so yeah.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:10:49 2021 No.11762145 >>11761981 >but if NijiEN .. dreams sweet dreams

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:11:11 2021 No.11762155 >>11762045 They mog all of the Council midgets besides Kronii and I'm pretty sure they're mogging even Ina now. Add the fact that holoEN is declining and Vshojo and inclining and you get them possibly surpassing Gura in viewers as well soon enough.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:12:00 2021 No.11762188 >>11762101 Damn. Hololive's scouting department really needs a raise. Even their rejects are top notch. Yagoo, I kneel.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:12:04 2021 No.11762191 >>11762101 Rosemi burned a ton of bridges and her reputation for...... .......500 viewers........sad.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:12:15 2021 No.11762197 >>11762101 8/11 streaming at once?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:13:15 2021 No.11762230 >>11762191 what did she have bck in a days?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:13:46 2021 No.11762247 >>11762045 Don't fall for the bait man, we all know that Twitch viewers are in the minorities.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:13:59 2021 No.11762253 >>11762155 >Twitch where bot views and raiding occur >Youtube culling actual legitimate live viewers, evidenced by poll numbers every day You can't even accurately compare the two

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:15:02 2021 No.11762293 >>11762155 See>>11761228 Hahahahahahahahaha

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:15:57 2021 No.11762320 >larping as a Vshojofag because their own company can't beat Holos

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:16:30 2021 No.11762339 >>11762155 Vshojo is getting closer to HoloEN but they aren't bigger yet Cover is making the same mistake than AnyColor by ignoring Twitch's audience

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:18:09 2021 No.11762394 >>11762197 8/10 Wave 1 - 3 members Wave 2 - 3 members Wave 3 - 4 members

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:18:24 2021 No.11762402

>>11762188
Cover scouting department too strong.

>Look for long time content creators so you know they can survive in the long haul.
>Look for talents outside the vtuber indie sphere so they can grow the audience pool
>Hire for people with eccentric personalities but are not too mentally unstable to threaten the box-pushing
>Hire people that can get along with the top talents so they have more incentives to stay in the company
>Occasionally gamble on a wild card just to see if they can bring something new and creative.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:19:50 2021 No.11762447

>>11762339
Trying to spread your company between two platforms is a bad idea. You could say Vshoujo is making a mistake by ignoring Youtube. But that's stupid because it would largely be a waste of time for either. It's like trying to have an audience in two different timeslots only magnified by 10.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:20:50 2021 No.11762493 >>11762394 For some reason I thought the 2nd wave was 4 too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:20:58 2021 No.11762503 >>11762402 >Hire for people with eccentric personalities but are not too mentally unstable to threaten the box-pushing Festival

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:22:00 2021 No.11762531 >>11762447 I actually think that Ame was hired to try and appeal to Twitch audience.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:22:29 2021 No.11762545 >>11762191 she was ending her stream then

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:22:42 2021 No.11762554 >>11762503 Matsuri doesn't threaten anything and her antics have arguably benefited the company by raising awareness and getting clips, even if it hasn't personally benefited her in the longrun.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:22:51 2021 No.11762556 >>11735282 Thanks oriconanon, do you have any new numbers for Rain Drops album or it's gone from rankings now?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:23:16 2021 No.11762570 >>11762503 Festival was an early hire where vtubing is a huge risk.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:24:24 2021 No.11762608 >>11762531 Sure, but not on Twitch. And they didn't give her the memo because she shot down that pog shit from the first day and has largely pretended twitch doesn't exist for her entire Holo career except for her music bot thing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:24:45 2021 No.11762625 >>11762503 When Matsuri was hired, getting “hired” meant >hey kid, want to use our software to stream? I have a phone for you right here in my van She didn’t even know she would get paid

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:26:02 2021 No.11762668 >>11762503 >>11762625 I have nothing but respect for those who became a vtuber early on where there's zero guarantee that it'll work out, unlike now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:26:14 2021 No.11762674 >>11762339 What Twitch audience anyway? There is a huge portion of people who dislike Twitch, as well as those moving to watch YT streams. Twitch's reputation is free fallong right now so I doubt they'll gain anything by catering to that place.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:27:59 2021 No.11762735 >>11762447 How about a small group (EN2.5) only for Twitch? Myth, Hope and Council would stay on YouTube and a new generation would do the hard work of gathering an audience for themselves on Twitch

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:28:00 2021 No.11762737 >>11762608 Probably assumed that she would carry on with her antics. Her mom jokes and groundpound jokes are stuff that would attract a Twitch viewerbase, but she stopped appealing to that a long time ago for some reason,

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:28:56 2021 No.11762769 >>11762735 Worth a try, though it wouldn't help box pushing at all and collabs may be severely limited.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:29:02 2021 No.11762772 >>11762735 Isolating them like that would threaten the box-pushing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:30:44 2021 No.11762826 >>11762735 Would work as well as Hololive China meaning not at all. Hololive strength is “but one get a whole pack”. If you’re not collabing with your senpai might as well be some other company unrelated to the main one

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:31:45 2021 No.11762855

>>11762735
If I was Cover I'd rather do Holo KR/ES. Even if you succeed on Twitch and do as good as Vshoujo you're looking at 9k for your top people. That's ok-ish but it's an opportunity cost thing. You could throw that same "twitch gen" onto youtube and have them do just as well with much less effort.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:32:04 2021 No.11762861 >>11762826 Actually this reminds me. Why not do a Holostars EN but on Twitch where everything is new? I doubt it'll work out though but it's the one chance Cover has in debuting a male English branch

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:33:32 2021 No.11762903 >>11762861 Should just put them on TikTok too

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:34:27 2021 No.11762933

>>11762861
You could, I actually thought about that before. They'd be under no obligation to collab with Myth/Council because different platforms, but if someone like Mori or Ollie wanted to they could. I don't think it would work but it's at least different enough from the Holostars JP model it might have a shot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:34:36 2021 No.11762940 >>11762861 Cover will never release holostarsEN. Their JP branch is not successful yet.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:34:36 2021 No.11762941

>>11762861
>Why not do a Holostars EN but on Twitch where everything is new?
There won’t be a new Holostars gen for as long as Holostars don’t either incline or give up.
They’re a Tanigo pet project which weren’t even meant to exist if not for his desire to have a male branch. They’re in for the long haul and, considering their recent numbers and holo ID numbers, maaaaaaaaybe they’re ready for a new JP gen. Maybe

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:36:42 2021 No.11763000 >>11762861 It will suck away the eops from holostar jp just like how holoen suck away the eops from korone and fbk.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:48:14 2021 No.11763334 Really late but sorry to daily anon >>11716586 it was me that tainted the numbers. Seemed like a good idea but the numbers were just too low.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:50:53 2021 No.11763404 >>11762940 Nijisanji never stopped expanding even though all of their ventures were failures.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:56:29 2021 No.11763562 >>11763404 That's Niji's strategy. Holo's strategy is clearly different.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 06:59:59 2021 No.11763660 >>11763562 What makes you think so? They have different recruitment schemes but regarding expansion they seem to be following each other.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:05:29 2021 No.11763808

>>11763404
They need all the profit/money they can get to the point of making venues packed without any distancing. Ads or songs that they do, or factories that they own for merch along with AR tech they've invested in-house all needs money for maintenance. The only branch that's keeping those alive are the JP branch, and that ain't enough. Pump more JP vtubers and the bubble might burst for them. Pumping overseas vtubers is a much safer choice for them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:09:38 2021 No.11763911 was nijis doing so bad today that them nijinigs start using vshojo to shitpost?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:10:09 2021 No.11763926 >>11763911 They had like 5 sub 1k streams

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:11:16 2021 No.11763960 File: 11 KB, 273x185, D8DF6C5C-BC29-4FA6-9D1D-5F705059E598.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11763911 >today That anon is doing it ever since the baseball buff wore off. Wanna summon him? Just post the nijiEN numbers, even without comment.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:12:43 2021 No.11764007 >IRyS' 100 day celebration >551,476円 in SCs I didn't know that was a landmark. Probably won't win the day but that's still a good number.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:13:22 2021 No.11764026

>>11763660
Cover seems to be a bit more conservative in regards to expansion. Niji had the balls to risk expanding into India after all.

Also, Yagoo said that they were focusing a bit more inwards due to unexpected explosive popularity Combined with the CN branch getting axed. and that likely affected their expansion strategy.

They probably want to stabilize the EN and ID branch first. They have the potential to really gain a stranglehold on that market.

Also, I think that they don't want Holostars JP to lose whatever EOP saviorfags they have if they debut EN males right now. The dream is probably for Holostars to incline and compete with Manjisanji.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:16:04 2021 No.11764114

>>11764026
>Nijisanji goes full on into every market but the most obvious one
>Cover tepidly drops HoloEN after seeing that foreigners like hololive for some odd reason
I don't get how Ichikara had that big of a blind spot. The fact they went so all out on their English branch makes me think there were some that always wanted to be in this market.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:17:25 2021 No.11764154 File: 1.45 MB, 1506x616, 8F9E99C6-9FBD-4B8C-AE39-9D0398E890F9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tough scheduling With so many hours on the clock I wonder why they won’t spread out a little farther

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:19:34 2021 No.11764215 >>11764154 Sad to see numbers this low lmao

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:20:08 2021 No.11764234

>>11764154
Like 7 of them are canadians, and a bunch weren't neets and have other jobs/school to do. That and the overlaps aren't gonna get better. Niji is going to keep pumping waves so you might as well establish a good audience for good timeslots instead of trying to run away to increasingly smaller dead hours.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:20:14 2021 No.11764243

>>11763911
>let's bring up NijiEN numbers in comparison to holoEN even though they were never comparable in the first place
>NO! YOU CAN'T BRING UP VSHOJO!
Why do holobronies want this thread to only be a holo good, niji bad circlejerk? Vchads will take holoENs throne in the future and there's nothing you can do about it.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:22:30 2021 No.11764305

>>11764154
Hot take: NijiEN hasn't lost too much from their established talent but the 3rd wave was a smelly dud. I am not spelling doom and gloom for them. October has been mostly kind to the old talent even if the past week has been less than steller.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:22:31 2021 No.11764306
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>>11764154
It actually got so wide it missed the tail end.
Is it really a good idea to go straight to superchat reading streams in this quantity right out of debut?
You would think that, for a “singing wave” would have a lot more singing.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:22:40 2021 No.11764311

>>11764243
Pretty sure its just delusional nijifags that try to pit NijiEN with HoloEN. (they always say bubblebursting, slow&steady and other shit)

Now that NijiEN fell down to a new low, you shitheads pit Vshojo with HoloEN as if they're a branch of niji

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:23:00 2021 No.11764320

>>11764114
Nijisanji is just not popular with foreigners for some odd reason. Is their content a bit too Japanese for foreigners?

Hell, Hololive even seems to a bit more popular in KR (evidenced by some KR clippers getting 100,000+views) despite NijiKR being a thing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:24:02 2021 No.11764356 >>11763960 >Wanna summon him? Just post the nijiEN numbers, even without comment. kek, called it!

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:25:38 2021 No.11764406 File: 109 KB, 891x891, 1624856661032.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11761053 Selen's days are numbered when Holo acquires an EN FPS gamer

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:25:55 2021 No.11764423 >>11764306 A singing wave that can't do EN songs lol. Where's the unrestrictive freedom now?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:26:12 2021 No.11764431 >>11764320 I think it has something to do with talent. Hololive girls generally are more talented and creative enough that they could generate viral memes pretty regularly. Nijisanji are just streamers who follow the latest fad/trend.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:26:27 2021 No.11764440

>>11764243
>>11764311
Vshojo overtaking HoloEN In the future? Its possible if the holos continue to be lazy and the 3d still won't come.
But as of right now they're still far
>>11764320
I don't know but i did try to watch them and they were not bad but don't have enough appeal (For Me) to continue

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:26:49 2021 No.11764451

>>11764306
Maybe talents shouldn't be free to do what they want since they might be retarded. I hope it's them and not management trying to recoup some loses.

Maybe their Ethyria managers are fucking retards, most of Lazu Light's and Obsydia's seem pretty cool.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:27:20 2021 No.11764478

>>11764406
Selen can rest assured then. That day will be never.

Is Selen the most universally liked and the least controversial NijiEN? People seems to, at worst, not bother with her but even among people that do not watch NijiEN she seems to be well liked
>in this thread and board at least

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:28:02 2021 No.11764492 >>11764406 Make that an EN/RU FPS gamer and solidify the RU fanbase that Botan established as well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:29:03 2021 No.11764518 >>11764478 Selen gets good enough numbers relative to her company. She's fine here.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:29:34 2021 No.11764538

>>11764451
Lazu Light and Obsydia came from the same batch of recruits. They underwent Hololive's rigorous training process therefore they're quite good too even though they got rejected in the end. Ethyria was solely from Nijisanji's recruitment department so yeah, they ain't that good.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:29:42 2021 No.11764540 So numberfags, which do you think results in more money/fans/influence: Hololive's expansion with HoloEN or Nijisanji's expansion with VirtualReal?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:30:37 2021 No.11764560 >>11764540 Do we have VirtuaReal numbers?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:31:02 2021 No.11764569 >>11764478 She was being used to bait holofags. I remember when kronies are grievign in infinity due to the shit schedule and some faggot was continuously posting selen and begs to watch her while bragging about her packed schedule.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:32:39 2021 No.11764615

>>11764478
Although she hasn't hit the average female Niji number I don't think she's far away and she has a good future. I like her since her numbers are good despite the debuffs and her willingness to expand to many other streamers and chuubas is laudable. The others seem to like their bubble.

>>11764540
VirtualReal is autonomous and outside on Anycolor's control and if Hololive wasn't illegal in China then Aqua would be more popular than the entire branch combined.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:34:09 2021 No.11764655 >>11761506 I'm pretty sure that HoloEN has a vicegrip on the hearts of Kr weebs. Koreans love HoloEN, its actually kind of silly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:34:17 2021 No.11764659 >>11764569 Some of it is genuine. There is a time honored tradition among nijifags to insult hololive and talk about how much better nijisanji is while saying all holofans are filth but low key trying to get you to check out nijisanji.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:34:59 2021 No.11764681 >>11764406 I don't think hololive will risk it since holofags don't like Apex that much. It ruined Towa, Matsuri, and Aqua. Peko on the other day got dislike bombed and nousagi's were sending sc that says they hate apex

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:36:24 2021 No.11764726 File: 192 KB, 1364x967, the recline.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >selen Not even inclining. Just reclining slower than everyone else in her branch. Good for her, I guess.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:36:33 2021 No.11764733

>>11764540
>or Nijisanji's expansion with VirtualReal
That’s hard to numberfag both of because it’s on Bilibili and also because it’s a joint venture with Bilibili.
That means you can’t know the size of their audience and can’t even assume what kind of financial arrangement between the two companies are

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:36:45 2021 No.11764736 >>11764659 Not a great strategy then since that will may make them hate nijis even more

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:37:07 2021 No.11764744
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>>11764492
Fuck it man, i swear, so many anons have ideas here for a better incline, i just fucking hope some interns actually pay attention surfing everywhere for feedback. I WISH SOME ANONS HERE COULD BECOME INTERNS.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:37:21 2021 No.11764746 >>11764478 Selen is fine, she has alot of gachikois already. She's gonna beat everyone in Council in SCs this month.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:38:23 2021 No.11764772

>>11764540
VirtualReal fans don't translate to Nijisanji fans, and Anykara doesn't actually have any control over the VirtualReal branch. Money is an open question though. I wonder if there is data on how much money makes it out of China back to Anykara, but I'd say EN's fans/influence outweigh's VirtualReal globally, which Anykara can't actually use to influence anything, as it doesn't control it. There's evidence that EN's success increased views for JP as well, while the same cannot be said for VirtualReal, which is essentially cut off from the rest of the world.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:38:52 2021 No.11764782

>>11764320
Nijis are streamers with an avatar, they target the normie demographic who has countless other alternatives in the west. Hololive, on the other hand, is basically akb48 brought online, they target the weeb/otaku market and there wasn't much alternative before vtuber boom.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:39:22 2021 No.11764793 >>11764726 She's up to 2,831 so far in October. I don't thinki that will change. She is rising.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:39:59 2021 No.11764810 >>11764746 Bae and Fauna, yeah Sana, she's not fucking streaming for days but if she was then No she won't be beaten Mumei, no idea on her SCs lol Kronii, even though she barely streams i don't think she'll be beaten

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:40:15 2021 No.11764814 >>11764793 How many of that is just events like the full niji en phasmo collab she hosted

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:41:34 2021 No.11764852 >>11764814 Sucked money and viewership right out of her mates, you cannot do anything but love Selen smart numberfaggotry

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:41:34 2021 No.11764853 >>11764814 Dunno. Only time will tell. >>11764746 >She's gonna beat everyone in Council in SCs this month. Sana's comeback might get $10k+

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:42:14 2021 No.11764877

>>11764659
That's what made me fuck off from the fandom, before discovering Vtubers, i was a normalfag, i would literally watch everyone, and Niji's were my gateway, it was sometime when Fubuki was the most popular in Holo, and gen4's debuted a few months.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:44:34 2021 No.11764935 >>11764877 People seems to have forgotten how toxic the Nijifags when they were on top. There were even faggots furious at Botan for mogging a Niji 3D Debut (forgot who it is)

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:44:56 2021 No.11764944

Did the Holo/Niji rivalry on this board stem from when Niji was more popular and anons from jp was shitting on Hololive numbers?

Now that Hololive is mogging Niji, the bitter Holofans from yesteryear are probably using this chance to own the elitist Niji fans back then.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:45:47 2021 No.11764967 >>11764810 Mumei has weaker SCs than Bae and Fauna since she's not streaming alot and doing the Ina route of not reading SCs. Kronii is beatable if she will not stream alot

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:45:57 2021 No.11764972 https://twitter.com/uruharushia/status/1451081536971763713 Rushia could be back as early as tomorrow, so much for letting anyone else top the superchat chart for October

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:46:03 2021 No.11764974 >>11764935 That was when the Gen 5 schizo was born

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:46:32 2021 No.11764989 File: 329 KB, 2400x1440, 1633463571227.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11764726 Oh nooo, they lost like 5% of their viewers... meanwhile, holoEN lost 50%.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:46:58 2021 No.11765003 >>11764944 essentially yes, the toxicity of nijifans, especially jp nijifans, is well known, and its contributed to nijisanji's bad reputation in the west, and the dismissal of nijisanji in general by holo fans.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:47:47 2021 No.11765024 >>11764944 Not just 4chan, but on Youtube itself, they'd always shit on Holo's for being Idols, simultaneously praising Niji's. Dont forget the >muh merch That absolutely destroys any arguments back then, that shit goes waaaay back then.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:48:08 2021 No.11765037 >>11764944 Anons here mimicking jops rivarly. The tribalshit there is worst. https://vtdata.info/youmitoru?a=UCgk6lJYFF4ZTPIVKqrBannA https://wesave.chat/user/UCgk6lJYFF4ZTPIVKqrBannA Badmouting peko apex stream

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:48:17 2021 No.11765041 >>11764944 Problem with Holofags is they're easily baited but its mostly nijifags who starts some shit. >>11764989 A great example is this faggot

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:48:52 2021 No.11765059 >>11762503 There wasn't even a fucking box back when festival join anon You notice the whole "Relationship between gen-mates" starts with Fantasy, right? Even the holos themselves admitted it

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:49:02 2021 No.11765061

>>11764944
Most people weren't around for the shitflinging but the culture remained. Some people like LARPing as japs where this shit is serious, with idiots. A lot of the shitflinging is between holofags and holofags who went over to nijien but pretend they were never holofags.

I wasn't around for the /jp/ era shit but since I was a /jp/ poster from 2008-2015 I just assume it was gatekeeping and bullying gone wrong since /jp/sies are kinda dicks. There is a reason moot fucking hated /jp/ and it was because people were incapable of never ignoring things they didn't like so anyone new to anything would get thier neck stepped on.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:52:10 2021 No.11765136

>>11765003
I lurk some nijifan threads and they are actually extremely bitter about nijisanji's perception in the west. That one reddit post and /jp/ nonsense really, really got to them. Some of them think that the only reason Nijisanji won the west was because of rrats and not because they didn't have a Coco/Korone/FBK.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:52:13 2021 No.11765140 >>11764681 The fuck are you even talking about? apex didn't ruin anyone, matsuri ruined matsuri and towa/aqua aren't ruined at all.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:52:28 2021 No.11765148

>>11764944
>Did the Holo/Niji rivalry on this board stem from when Niji was more popular and anons from jp was shitting on Hololive numbers?
That never happened/happened very rarely. You can look at the /jp/ archives for yourself. Niji fans aren't KPOP stan tier retards like holobronies and never cared about numbers that much.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:56:52 2021 No.11765272

>>11764782
Good point. Niji's top streamers in JP are basically just twitch streamers in the west with an anime avatar, with a focus on Apex. Westerners don't give a shit about them since they can watch western Apex players with facecam for pretty much the same experience. Hololive brought something much more unique to the west. That might be why Niji EN decided to be Hololive lite in the west, but they also decided to do it a year late, lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:57:15 2021 No.11765282 >>11765136 By reddit post, did you mean the one in the Niji sub that casted shade on Hololive?

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:57:56 2021 No.11765297

>>11765136
Pretty sure you meant "the only reason Hololive won the west" but that sounds like a whole lotta bitter cope from some sad sacks.
>>11765140
Matsuri getting addicted to apex really slaughtered her numbers, since it led to all sorts of scheduling flakery and just drove away people. Apex did nearly ruin Aqua, but again, Aqua kinda self-inflicted that on herself with Apex merely being the tool of choice.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:58:05 2021 No.11765305 >>11764320 NTA, but to me, it seems like not many Niji actively try and encourage connection with foreign fans (Like doog or fbk)? Also, collaboration with foreign brands with global reaches (Games, music, etc. …) will also helps

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 07:58:05 2021 No.11765306

>>11765148
I can only talk about my experience, but it was around Oct-Nov 2020 when Hololive was just blowing up, and people were also new to Niji.
>perfectly easy to get into Holo since there were a lot of translated clips
>guy in friend group said Nijisanji was the better Vtuber group, can't seem to find any decent Niji clips on Youtube then
>ask around on /jp/ if they had any recommendations on how to get into Niji
>get called a tourist and go back to Hololive where trash are meant to be
I think a lot of people here who have disdain for Nijisanji mostly have bad experience with Nijisanji fans in /jp/; but I mean to be fair, that is 4chan culture

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:00:08 2021 No.11765373 >>11765282 Niji sub and r/virtualyoutubers always throw a shade about Holo, even r/virtualyoutubers mods are huge Nijifans.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:00:09 2021 No.11765376

>>11765305
Shizuka Rin was one of the first Nijisanji talents that caught Western attention when she was featured in Pewdiepie's Meme Review singing Country Roads.
She actively filtered the Western tourists by spamming FFXIV streams, which to be fair, the EOPs were inundating her with "Sing Country Roads pls" and shit

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:00:45 2021 No.11765391

>>11765306
Yes, holobronies were mistreated by Niji fans on /jp/ when they still shared a thread, I won't deny that, but it never had anything to do with numberfagging. Seeing as how awful the hololive fanbase turned out to be and hated by everyone else as well I can't blame them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:00:48 2021 No.11765395 >>11765306 /jp/sies are dicks. People should have thicker skin. I'm a holofan but a lot of this "nijifags are evil" shit just screams of people not being used to /jp/. /hlg/ was a hugbox compared to most of /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:02:07 2021 No.11765432 >>11765376 Seems to be a trend with Niji. Happened with Hana Macchia too. One of them trends gains EOP viewers, they immediately try to filter them out. No wonder they have a reputation of being unfriendly to foreign fans.ndst8

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:03:01 2021 No.11765461 >>11765395 Its pretty much /vyt/ brother version of this thread. Thats where all the tribalshit back then. Like this thread it was full of falseflaggers

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:03:32 2021 No.11765480 >>11765376 Dont forget that Lulu and Gibara were EOP magnets

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:03:42 2021 No.11765486

>>11765391
/jp/ mistreats everyone. People used to shit down my throught for preferring IN to EoSD and PCB.
>how awful the hololive fanbase turned out to be
The most popular would always turn out to be the worst, especially with the explosion hitting normalfags. I think it has little to do with the actual content.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:03:49 2021 No.11765490 >>11765432 I can't believe that Sara had a perfectly acceptable grasp at English yet never attempted to stream using the language Yet Haato went all in despite her lack thereof

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:04:46 2021 No.11765524

>>11765395
Remember, reddit is HL central, so its unsurprising thin-skinned fools diving into 4chan for the first time misrepresent general chan asshattery and dickishness as nijifan dickishness and asshattery in its entirety. Not to say that they were innocent of it, but newfags gonna newfag, tourists gonna tour.
I really wish people would lurk moar as a general rule, but...
>>11765376
Not that she was wrong to do so, but ouch does that look bad in hindsight.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:04:59 2021 No.11765532 >>11765136 Red pill me on the reddit post

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:05:25 2021 No.11765544 >>11765490 Just being friendly and actually trying to reach out is much more important than actually being fluent. Korone and Haato demonstrated that pretty well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:05:26 2021 No.11765545 >>11764538 Training people who haven’t even been hired kek Why are you making shit up?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:06:29 2021 No.11765570 >>11765306 good for them, if I was a nijinigger there's no way in hell I'd want globalfag retards who are so new they think hololive started blowing up in october 2020 shitting up my thread

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:07:48 2021 No.11765611

>>11765297
Yeah that's what I mean by Matsuri ruining Matsuri. She would have declined a bit but still been fine if she just played it normally. It almost ruined Aqua due to her own autism, not playing the game per se since she always did great numbers off it but she got out and put her energy into idolatry to great success anyway.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:09:05 2021 No.11765635

>>11765376
She happened to be a bad person to catch anyone's attention and she caught the attention of some of the worst subhumans on earth. Korone rolled with the punches pretty well in comparison.

>>11765524
I sympathize deeply with nijifans even though I never have and never will watch nijisanji. All of this screams, to an outsider who abandoned the board, like newfags trying to take over and being cry babies about not getting their way and now they're the bad guy for following site educate.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:09:27 2021 No.11765644 >>11765570 That was around the time they had their Azur Lane collab, so the timeline checks out. People interested in learning who these "Vtubers" in their Shipgirl game are

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:09:45 2021 No.11765652

>>11765611
>A bit
*Ahem*

>Be Matsuri
>Fall in love with a girl that likes dick
>Constantly rejected by her
>Cry on twitcasts and make such a huge drama to a point some people start hating your love interest because your menhera attacks
>Talk to a bartender
>Send a lot of marshmallows and superchats to him
>Get drunk and tell him you want him to be your big brother and take baths with you
>Get ignored and rejected by him
>Get completely outclassed by a tomboy with a sexy onee-san voice
>Meet a qt 3.14 pro apex player
>Actually get him to coach you
>The tournament is your chance to impress him and win him over
>End up tilting and your team ends 19/20 only because the other team was memeing with controllers
>Cry and suffer the whole time
>Met another qt in the after games, a spaghetti spilling weatherman
>You actually try to be seiso instead of the degenerate everyone is used to
>Have the time of your life
>He never calls you back
>Find a princess that loves you back
>She calls you when you were depressed after the apex shitshow
>She values and depends on you a lot
>When she gets sick instead of helping her you go back to confess your love to the dick loving girl
>Fall into an endless APEX obsession
>Your viewers tell you to bring some variety and that they are tired of APEX
>Instead of improving you take a break playing more APEX
>Return from break and keep on doing APEX streams
>Fans actually start leaving you
>Start to argue with antis on twitter to later delete everything
>Meanwhile your dick loving love interest is having the best time with a retarded australian
>Despite all of this you keep on streaming APEX, and it seems everything is going fine
>Then a Shark appears
>The Shark puts a trident in your ass and starts buttfucking you
>You start bleeding viewers
>You end up loving it and ask for Gen 5, Korone and Pekora to buttfuck you the next day
>Do a collab with a gook
>Despite being hyped up and having your fox senpai to help you, you still can't make over 5k
>That collab also brings a curse to this land
>get buttfucked in the next days by a detective with brain damage and an autistic reaper
>Boys and girls from all branches are having fun and teetee
>you're alone, playing APEX
>Eventually you decide to stop being an autist and join the minecraft server
>You can't even recognise some of your kouhais
>All of the girls except EN are playing Minecraft together
>EN girls are having collabs together and interacting with each other and her senpais
>All of the boys are playing among us together
>All of them are having fun
>You're alone, lamenting your existence on twitter and crying yourself to sleep
>There's a Yathzee tournament coming
>It's your chance to make a harem with all past love interests
>Dedicate a stream to practice it, alone.
>Tournament happens, you are doing fine
>Suddenly the princess appears, and she's on a warpath
>She utterly destroys your hopes and dreams
>At some point she feels bad about you and tries to throw, but still manages to buttfuck you
>Your dreams of a harem are dead
>Later because of this and much more, you start having menhera attacks and suicide bait on your alternate twitter account
>The menhera attacks are getting stronger, you end up trying to assault a squid in front of her fans
>FRUS TRA TION IS GETTING BIGGER
>You find your kouhais, a CEO, another menhera and a mom
>You want the mom
>BANG BANG BANG PULL MY MENHERA TRIGGER
>The CEO is trying to befriend you but you, as a good menhera, take this as a personal attack and ignore her
>Mommy turns you down politely
>You keep on screaming and attention whoring until you leave without saying goodbye
>Your fanbase is also full of menheras that pretend to be happy but use alternate accounts to have the menhera attacks
>You look for those accounts and reply to them, making some of them delete their accounts
>As the menhera attacks get worse, your roommate makes a stream
>Despite all the makeup and filters, your roommate can't hide her eyebags, a sign of someone who crearly cries herself to sleep
>In a bold claim, you go and say that if the fans don't like APEX they can go eat shit.
>Shortly after go into a break
>Your stalker, that for some reason you thought it was a good idea to make a mod in your channel, thinks that's because of your fanbase
>Your fanbase start to attack each other
>You have to come out and admit that a friend died so they stop fighting between each other
>Meanwhile the princess is having her birthday
>You prepared a cover that you promised months ago
>You retweet it SEVEN times
>You send an aka supacha
>She doesn't mention it
>Not a single holo acknowledges the video
>Have a menhera attack on your roommate account
>Your fans start pestering the princess because of your own stupidity
>Have to make an apology and explanation on your roommate account
>The princess finally acknowledges you
>But to this day she didn't like your video

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:10:59 2021 No.11765679 >>11765652 Still my favourite pasta, just wish it was updated with all the new additions in the sordid tale of menhera matsuri.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:11:08 2021 No.11765683 >>11765652 lmao, damn i miss this

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:11:40 2021 No.11765695 File: 142 KB, 1151x662, 1626137578121.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WHEREARE THE NUMBERS YOU FUCKS

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:11:41 2021 No.11765696 >>11765635 >and now they're the bad guy for following site educate. *and now Nijifags are the bad guys for following site etiquette I should really proofread shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:11:42 2021 No.11765697 >>11765282 Care to link the post anon?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:11:48 2021 No.11765700 yikes numberfags thread quality>quantity get that into ur minds

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:13:01 2021 No.11765728 >>11765700 just because no one watches your oshi doesn't mean they're any good also, cope nijikek

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:13:47 2021 No.11765750 >>11765700 Mostly deadhours around this time. Come back later in 2-3 hours for JP primetime if you just want the numbers

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:14:31 2021 No.11765771 >>11765695 Here's one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72sxlxaAOq0 Millie's doing a fucking guerilla stream to countdown to 69,069 subs so she can say nice over and over. Quality content.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:14:49 2021 No.11765780 >>11765652 Who's the girl who likes dick in this scenario.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:15:26 2021 No.11765802

>>11765644
Wrong year anon, that was 2019. While it's almost certainly true that by pure numbers the growth in the period just after the EN debuts was the biggest, Hololive started getting western traction in late '19, had a big growth spurt when the lockdowns first started hitting and was pretty much a normalfag thing for western weebs by the summer

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:15:45 2021 No.11765812 >>11765780 Sara Hoshikawa, Lover of Dicks

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:16:16 2021 No.11765830 >>11765780 It's Hoshikawa...

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:16:46 2021 No.11765843 >>11765802 Ah my mistake, yeah, I meant Oct 2019, not 2020

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:17:33 2021 No.11765865 >>11765771 >barely 1.5k on a completely uncontested stream for niji en ehhh lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:18:18 2021 No.11765885 >>11765771 Another gimmicky stream. I mean it's good for numbers but when will they stop doing this and start streaming for real?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:18:35 2021 No.11765897 >>11765148 >They never acted like kpop stans >Quickly jumped on Migos and Kaoru rrat >Were there for the whole Aloe drama to drag it Anycolor shiller, do your archive reps as well instead of larping as a /jp/ veteran.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:19:20 2021 No.11765914 >>11765395 >People should have thicker skin Well, most people don't, so here we are

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:20:15 2021 No.11765947 >>11765885 What do you mean stream for real? None of the new niji wave plays games. They're supposed to be "zatsudan" mains and/or singers. This is their real content.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:20:32 2021 No.11765952

>>11765697
It's probably deleted now because it got linked in the virtualyoutuber thread, Also because it was getting too controversial

Have a response thread instead

https://old.reddit.com/r/Nijisanji/comments/opjaw1/its_great_that_nijisanji_is_getting_popular_but/

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:20:36 2021 No.11765958 so which is gonna take #1 today? sui free concert part? marine return? maybe surprise from nijis?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:21:03 2021 No.11765971 >>11765486 >People used to shit down my throught for preferring IN to EoSD and PCB. As someone who started with PCB, yeah you deserve to be shit on

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:21:30 2021 No.11765992 >>11765897 Nigger you can't just blame any troll on the big bad niji boogieman, most of those were just drama loving SEA monkeys not nijifags

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:21:41 2021 No.11765998 >>11765897 You forgot >Dislike bombed Rindou's streams when her "voice" was heard in Kuzuha's stream

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:21:56 2021 No.11766010 >>11765958 Marine updated her status to say she's out for longer, until November. Sui free concert part stands a good chance.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:22:47 2021 No.11766039 >>11765885 >>11765947 Reimu has been putting out 'real' streams, playing a lot of stuff, really packed schedule. She has possibly the lowest average viewership in wave 3 and it fucking pisses me off.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:22:59 2021 No.11766044 >>11765958 >marine return Anon....

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:23:26 2021 No.11766060 >>11765971 IN had bigger numbers This is a numbers thread so I win Also way more interesting shot type mechanics and how to play for score, it being a touch easier isn't a big deal. I started with MoF actually.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:24:07 2021 No.11766076

>>11765524
I mean, what do you expect?
The nature of this site means that there's no way to hard-gatekeep normalfags, and at the same time, no way for people to tone down the asshattery on fears of getting dunked on
So the first impression of anons can be wildly different depends on how lucky/unlucky they are

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:25:03 2021 No.11766103

>>11766039
That's because she is terrible at games and also is a boring streamer in general. Her background was an utaite, I don't think she had much if any streaming experience. I'm not sure why they actually hired her as a vtuber other than being Petra's friend, don't think she's cut out for it.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:27:16 2021 No.11766158

>>11766076
My first visit was to a number thread a month ago. It was full of Gura vs Pekora shit lol. Even if I'm a fan of Gura, I wasn't filtered out.

This is the only place I can see discussion about numbers because other places don't like it when you compare numbers. So I stayed here. Also for the Uoooh threads.

Also, is there anyway to recover archives of number threads when Coco was graduating or Gura had that 120 k Karaoke?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:27:44 2021 No.11766169 >>11765958 I'll fucking beat by self up if Risu won't take #1 It's a freaking witch costume from the best HoloID!!!

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:28:28 2021 No.11766189 >>11766169 Witch costume would have the Halloween buff.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:28:31 2021 No.11766191 >>11766169 Prepare to be grudgeposted retard

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:28:56 2021 No.11766210 >>11766158 Coco graduation? Yes. The archive sites should have them. Gura 120k? That was last year, before /vt/ was created, so it'd be somewhere in the /jp/ archives.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:29:57 2021 No.11766240 >>11766169 Had Risu not given up on growing, I'd say sure, but you know what? No. She doesn't deserve the big numbers, she'll get sub 20k.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:31:17 2021 No.11766282 >>11766103 Jesas, wave 3 is fucked then because Reimu is the most entertaining of the lot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:33:32 2021 No.11766344 >>11766282 Well the other 3 are doing watchalongs, numberfag streams, zatsudans where all they do is talk about how lesbian they are, sc readings, etc. Not exactly the most riveting of content.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:33:42 2021 No.11766349 >>11766210 Hey anon did you experience the threads during Myth's Debuts? Can you tell me how chaotic it was? were Nijifags fucking furious?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:33:57 2021 No.11766354 >>11766282 Just let Enna do unarchived streams and let the subs roll in.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:34:40 2021 No.11766369 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtqzI9y5yII https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtqzI9y5yII https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtqzI9y5yII Comet started

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:34:59 2021 No.11766381 >>11766349 NTA, but I can't even recall what happened during Myth Debut outside of people sperging about HER

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:35:31 2021 No.11766401 File: 134 KB, 1206x875, Screenshot - 2021-10-21 , 09_34_17.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Suisei's free part opened to 10k waiting room, pointing to a floor of 25k >PREDICTIONS? I say it beats 30k but not 35k

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:35:41 2021 No.11766406 >>11766158 >Also for the Uoooh threads. Based

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:36:44 2021 No.11766440 File: 143 KB, 303x276, 1610185850639.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Could Suisei passed this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:37:30 2021 No.11766476 >>11766349 NTA, but to me Myth debut is when Reddit and 4chan came very close to agree on something Most of it was doomposting tho, but still … That and the beginning of China arc

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:37:55 2021 No.11766493 >>11766401 I'm saying she clears 35-40k. If Sui-chan can manage to get 28k for karaokes on the regular, she can easily get an extra 10k+ for the free portion of her first full-live of originals.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:38:31 2021 No.11766515 >>11766440 Sees >>11766401

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:38:32 2021 No.11766516 >>11766349 Furious about sticky thread muh jp board is dead

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:38:40 2021 No.11766524 >>11766440 >>11766401 Hopefully not. I want people to buy the fucking ticket, Sui-chan deserves it

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:39:59 2021 No.11766577 >>11766524 I'm in both the SPWN and YT frames. I'll sit in the YT one until its time to switch because YT will cull the shit out of me otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:40:40 2021 No.11766595 >>11766401 no kiara watchalong for sui?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:42:03 2021 No.11766641 >>11766401 The numbers are awful so far. 30k won't happen.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:42:16 2021 No.11766650 >>11761428 They should've go full holo strat or niji way. These halfasses strat they do rn is dumb

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:43:13 2021 No.11766682 >>11766641 That's understandable considering Suiseifags will be at the paid part

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:43:40 2021 No.11766691 >>11766650 Would the "niji way" even work in the west? If you debuted EN Kuzuha, why would westerners watch him instead of some facecam streamer who was already playing and streaming Apex?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:44:01 2021 No.11766704 >>11766641 16.5k and she hasn't even appeared yet anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:44:43 2021 No.11766728 >>11766704 Not gonna change. Anyone who is interested already turned on the telly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:45:04 2021 No.11766742 If youre wondering the semi numberfag thread back then heres an example. >>/jp/thread/S24446049#p24451299

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:46:24 2021 No.11766795

>>11766595
RRRRAAAAT TIME!
Kiara hates Suisei! Get it while its hot!
>>11766641
Please compare this to >>11766440
Watame's hit 17k AT the switch-over point to the real event.
Suisei's already AT that point 15 minutes out.
This is gonna blow the fuck past Watame's numbers.
Relevant Holostats link
Watame : https://holo.poi.cat/stream/P_ptI5iH7Vg
Current Suisei : https://holo.poi.cat/stream/LtqzI9y5yII

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:47:56 2021 No.11766835 >>11766728 Ah okay, you're just a moron.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:48:09 2021 No.11766841

>>11766728
Given that we KNOW YT culls inactive tabs...
(I'm actually not sure if this was completely active back before last december because comparing some of the peaks on holostats there's some of the peaking when outfits come out so it may have been in testing before December but not turned 'on' to full effect until that update was pushed out)
It's going to spike at the top of the hour, just like Watame's portion did.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:48:22 2021 No.11766845 >>11766742 >Look at thread >2nd reply is asking for doxx Holy kek

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:48:28 2021 No.11766851 >>11766795 Wait, it's an hour long, not 30 min?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:50:33 2021 No.11766929 >>11765652 go back to your saviorfag thread

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:51:02 2021 No.11766950 >>11766851 30 mins waiting room, 30 mins the actual live.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:51:15 2021 No.11766962 >>11766851 The free part doesn't actually 'start' until the top of the hour. The first bit the frame's up for is just advertising for goods, showing off flower stands, etc. People will tab when the actual event starts.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:53:08 2021 No.11767028 >>11766795 >RRRRAAAAT TIME! this orange bitch!

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:57:34 2021 No.11767180 I think it'll hit 40+

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:57:42 2021 No.11767184 45k minimum

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:58:18 2021 No.11767208

>>11764944
My take is that:
70% are dramaniggers who watch at most clips and only when they run out of drama.
10% are bored anons who watch both.
10% are actual holofags still seething about their treatment in /jp/ or whatever, I suspect a good number of them are too new to have been there and are just larping to fit in
10% are actual nijifags who have Hololive live in their heads rent-free and here also there's probably more than a few newfags trying to fit in.

I can tell this by watching both, what people here write about them and having seen quite a few falseflags and trolls in my time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:58:35 2021 No.11767214 File: 4 KB, 194x130, 1613120279248.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Already #1

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 08:59:52 2021 No.11767263 >>11767180 >>11767184 Still only at 25k. I don't think it will get above 30k.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:00:49 2021 No.11767307 Suise started, LETS FUCKING GO NUMBERNROS

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:01:27 2021 No.11767339

>>11764320
Hologirls actively and collectively pander and aknowledge their EOP in the early stage of vtuber booming. Thanks FBK, Korone, and Coco pushing the rest of the girl to get a hold of that little opening and oppurtunity, and capitalize the shit out of it. Niji has their chance but they never bother to entertain their early EOPs. Welp early EOPs were annoying af at first but with time everyone learn the JPstyle stream culture eventually. Holo put up with it and it result on their massive incline

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:01:56 2021 No.11767353 File: 10 KB, 388x113, 1604200125151.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11767263 Well

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:02:07 2021 No.11767368 >>11767263 Bro....how new... It always spikes when the actual event starts. Tab-ins take time to get counted in too. She's already passed Watame, 30k and no songs have actually started.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:02:08 2021 No.11767369 >>11767180 im pretty sure a LOT of ppl bought tickets, especially her her JP fans

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:02:31 2021 No.11767385 >>11767353 >>11767368 It won't hit 40k.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:02:55 2021 No.11767407 >>11767263 KNEEL

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:03:31 2021 No.11767434 >Ghost numbers!

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:08:34 2021 No.11767658 >>11767385 PREPARE TO KNEEL

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:09:01 2021 No.11767678

>>11767339
Based Holo taking the risks and going the extra mile to incline. Niji had the early mover advantage and like tons of japanese companies, sat on their stagnant asses satisfied at their meager success until they were overtaken. To be fair, Holo is kinda doing that now. But Niji is still not doing anything innovative or unique, so they're not getting past Holo anytime soon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:09:36 2021 No.11767700 huh, SPWN is having some issues with the framerate, I think their servers are getting overwhelmed

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:09:52 2021 No.11767710 >>11765992 That's literally what's happening in these threads tho

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:09:58 2021 No.11767714 >>11767385 LMAO

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:10:04 2021 No.11767719 The SPWN stream is laggy as hell going 10 fps while the youtube is lag free.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:10:08 2021 No.11767724 >>11767700 glad its not just me, i noticed. Watching the youtube version for now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:11:19 2021 No.11767783 >>11767700 Yeah that probably explains why the youtube stream suddenly got a boost

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:12:01 2021 No.11767814 >>11767385 I'm here to laugh at you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:12:04 2021 No.11767820 >>11762101 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:12:11 2021 No.11767824 >>11767700 >can handle holofes2 but not suseis solo concert

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:12:14 2021 No.11767826 I'm preemptively kneeling.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:12:21 2021 No.11767834 >>11767385 KNEEL RIGHT NOW

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:12:22 2021 No.11767835 File: 1.25 MB, 2058x2994, E8o_2O7UUAIeHEQ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11767385 KNEEL ant

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:12:31 2021 No.11767840 >>11767385 KNEEL

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:12:33 2021 No.11767844 File: 22 KB, 1070x165, 1632319298437.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11767385 what's the next goalpost

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:12:59 2021 No.11767861 File: 10 KB, 428x91, 1604238632542.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11767385 Next is 50k right?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:12:59 2021 No.11767863 >>11767385 Please anon, kindly find a bridge to jump off of with your goal-post moving predictions.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:13:02 2021 No.11767866 Watamen...

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:13:11 2021 No.11767874 >>11767834 >>11767835 >>11767840 >>11767844 >big concert >barely 40k She has 1 million subs. 45k is the minimum.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:14:59 2021 No.11767938 >>11767861 1 mil subs, therefore must have 1 mil viewers Anything else is just being a disappointment

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:15:13 2021 No.11767951 >11767874 There it is. The goalpost moving.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:15:21 2021 No.11767963 >best singer in Hololive >only managed 40k If she couldn't at least fill one Old Trafford, she's a failure.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:16:11 2021 No.11767999 AAAAAAAAA NIJIKEKS HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA EXTERNALLY MOGGED BY BLUE COMET

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:16:11 2021 No.11767998 >>11767339 >>11767678 >One has an early mover advantage and don't care about outside market It's Kancolle and Azur Lane again but vtubers companies

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:17:25 2021 No.11768061 >>11767938 Jun is a failure, Auronplay is a failure.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:18:50 2021 No.11768111 >>11767998 The power of releasing an English Fucking Version

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:18:51 2021 No.11768112 >>11767999 Suisei would not approve of your tribalfaggotry. >>11767998 Yep. Recognizing when to take the risk, and taking it to get a leg up....this is the beauty of the free market. Not everyone will succeed, but fortune favors the bold.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:19:12 2021 No.11768128 >>11767963 >40k poorfags who couldnt affored a ticket

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:19:51 2021 No.11768147 >>11768061 Not Vtubers, stop being a Holofaggot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:20:55 2021 No.11768194 >>11767999 tribalism isnt good you know? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhmFj1owmuk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiUvL-rp1zg

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:21:08 2021 No.11768203 >ads during the concert name a better shill than suisei

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:21:22 2021 No.11768208 >>11768147 SEETHE AND COPE NIJIKEK

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:21:42 2021 No.11768219 >>11768194 COPE

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:21:46 2021 No.11768224 File: 21 KB, 240x240, suiringo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11767385

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:22:26 2021 No.11768257 >>11768203 she needs more money for enstua please understand

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:22:32 2021 No.11768264 File: 66 KB, 600x358, Retard.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11768147

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:22:33 2021 No.11768265 >>11768219 can you elaborate what should i cope about?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:22:35 2021 No.11768268 It didn't hit 45k Looks like I was right. It won't win the day.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:23:26 2021 No.11768300 >1 mil subs Vtuber >First big solo concert >"best" Vsinger in Hololive >can't even hit 50k Rumao. Hololive is reclining. Yagoo in shambles. They're going to file for bankruptcy tomorrow because this concert was a massive fail

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:24:12 2021 No.11768332 SPWN numbers where

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:24:37 2021 No.11768346 File: 66 KB, 630x400, 1608816053254.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11768300

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:24:46 2021 No.11768350

>>11767998
For people who aren't gachaniggers I think Final Fantasy vs. Dragon Quest is also a good comparison. DQ is obviously bigger in Japan but Enix didn't even bother translating the SNES DQ games which let FF get a huge foothold in the west as a ton of people grew up playing FF4, FF6, amd Chrono Trigger on SNES.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:25:32 2021 No.11768379 >>11768268 What is the current winner btw?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:25:54 2021 No.11768391 >>11767385 why did u do this to yourself? xD

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:27:03 2021 No.11768453 Not gonna lie, former holobrony here. It's fucking hilarious watching hololive crash and burn. But in all seriousness, we can't let idolshit become the standard of vtubing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:27:24 2021 No.11768465 >>11768194 Who is that shitty brown haired singer ruining Suisei's song?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:27:48 2021 No.11768474 >>11768379 Kuzuha's Apex stream

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:28:27 2021 No.11768496 >>11768453 >we can't let idolshit become the standard of vtubing. anonchama, do i have news for you...

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:29:23 2021 No.11768525 File: 173 KB, 328x404, 1623101969941.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11768453

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:29:33 2021 No.11768530 >>11768379 Suisei

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:29:41 2021 No.11768536 File: 44 KB, 828x466, 06.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11768465 toko inui, her really good friend. if i remember correctly they even have radio show. IF you like suisei so much, why dont you know about it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:30:28 2021 No.11768559 >>11768474 >>11768530 Okay, you two work your shit out

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:30:44 2021 No.11768567 >>11768474 >Kuzuha's Apex stream and?>>11759323 *pic re

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:30:56 2021 No.11768573 >>11768536 She ruined the song so I probably tuned her out mentally. Never heard of her.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:31:07 2021 No.11768577 >>11768536 *leech, pls don't lump that dog to superior holofemale

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:31:27 2021 No.11768586 >>11768379 Suisei

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:31:57 2021 No.11768605 >>11766158 >numbers >uoooh based

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:32:16 2021 No.11768617 >>11768496 I feel most viewers want some professionalism and Hololive give that and confused that with idolshit

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:32:22 2021 No.11768621 File: 177 KB, 430x598, kneel department.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] SUICHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN >I KNEEL!

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:34:22 2021 No.11768694 >>11768559 anon, you can't recognize someone bullshitting? There'd be king posting all over the thread if Kuzuha had actually pulled a 43k+ apex stream today.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:34:26 2021 No.11768697 File: 217 KB, 1228x691, 1618158574927.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] OH HEY speak of the devil

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:34:34 2021 No.11768701 File: 71 KB, 620x291, ff.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11768474 This one?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:35:46 2021 No.11768759 >>11768697 Who's the uggo on the right? not even using concert outfit

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:36:12 2021 No.11768776 >>11768697 It always looks weird whenever Suzy is in her idol outfit with Toko since she doesn't have anything like that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:36:56 2021 No.11768805 >>11768776 why doesn't Niji just give her one if they're so great?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:37:48 2021 No.11768828 >>11768776 Dancing with her maid, how cute.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:37:59 2021 No.11768833 >>11768805 She has one but it's L2D only.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:38:21 2021 No.11768846 >>11768805 maybe if she's a man, there's a chance

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:38:28 2021 No.11768849 >>11768805 Toko doesn't want to pay for something she won't use that much I guess.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:38:41 2021 No.11768857 >>11768805 News flash, they're not idols and the support is not equal. Just look at nijirock. She's still using that old 3D outfit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:38:53 2021 No.11768863 >>11768805 she doesn't have a dick

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:39:25 2021 No.11768886 >>11768453 >former holobrony do you have receipts?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:40:20 2021 No.11768928 did suichan just break SPWN

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:40:36 2021 No.11768942 >>11768857 >they're not idols this is just stage costume

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:41:08 2021 No.11768960 >>11768928 no, just low latency mode.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:41:14 2021 No.11768963 File: 1.49 MB, 1073x1078, 1633352411968.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11768857 >Just look at nijirock

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:41:32 2021 No.11768968 >>11768694 I'm sorry for ousting myself as a newfag and will now commit sudoku

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:41:42 2021 No.11768976 >>11768805 Nijisanji only cares about their male talents. The girls are an after thought which is why Toko doesn't have an outfit like that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:41:50 2021 No.11768982 >>11765652 Needs an update with the gen 1 concert and her Haachameltdown.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:41:57 2021 No.11768985 >>11768963 I kneel to the Nijirock killer!

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:41:59 2021 No.11768986 >>11768928 nah, this site just shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:42:04 2021 No.11768988 Ah I'll end up getting the blue-ray, the stream is shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:43:05 2021 No.11769015 Is there a Nijinigger on Suisei's show? I'm a Suisei fan and was going to buy the VOD for this but not anymore. Fuck Nijisanji.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:43:18 2021 No.11769019 oh hey the FPS is fixed

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:44:15 2021 No.11769045 >>11769015 You aren't a proper Suisei fan you falseflagging aashat. You would know who that is and what her views are on tribalism if you were. BEGONE PRETENDER.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:44:20 2021 No.11769050 File: 174 KB, 1079x1182, 1630323510953.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] SORT YOUR SHIT OUT COVER

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:46:04 2021 No.11769100 So when is Toko joining Hololive?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:46:28 2021 No.11769117 >>11769050 That's on YouTube being shit and copyright enforcement bots being trigger happy. You bet Cover is gonna be having some angry words over some bullshit like that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:47:06 2021 No.11769143 >>11769045 cringe

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:47:26 2021 No.11769149 >>11769100 She won't because her model is sex and anything else is a downgrade.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:47:35 2021 No.11769157 >>11769100 Hopefully never. Nijisanji talent isn't good enough for Hololive and she doesn't deserve the bigger platform that Hololive provides. She is a lazy Nijinigger.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:47:38 2021 No.11769159 >sololive >duet with toko does not compute...

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:48:27 2021 No.11769189 >>11769100 Leeeech, fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:49:00 2021 No.11769211 >>11769159 When is Suisei going to separate herself from that failing Niji Leech?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:50:13 2021 No.11769275 This thread reminds me why I should never be a tribalfag

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:50:44 2021 No.11769295 >>11769211 When she graduates and gets to debut as a Holo.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:50:46 2021 No.11769297 ENTER AZKi to save the day

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:50:53 2021 No.11769299 >>11769275 Eh it is easy enough to ignore them. Kind of happy that /vt/ helped me grow thicker skin.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:51:04 2021 No.11769305 >>11769159 Toko's sololive and Azki's sololive also had Suisei as guest.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:51:07 2021 No.11769308 >>11769211 >separate >from Leech

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:51:34 2021 No.11769323 Just notice current top 4 songs on Spotify might all be Mori's.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:51:36 2021 No.11769325 Toko SUUUUUUUCKS and is really killing my enjoyment of this event. Such a shame that Suisei's big moment features a lame Niji leech.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:52:08 2021 No.11769333 >>11769297 do they sing new song? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9wUbw5qevU

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:52:56 2021 No.11769357 >>11769333 Soon. There are singing Azki's orisong now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:53:13 2021 No.11769365 >>11769297 Is the Niji Leech gone? Can I turn the show back on now?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:53:13 2021 No.11769363 Can't tribalbait with numbers anymore so it's devolved into leechbait. Amusing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:53:14 2021 No.11769366 >>11769275 I have a hard time taking any of the "tribalfags" seriously. The over the top seething reeks of ironic tribalfaggotry. Just ignore the retards.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:53:57 2021 No.11769393 >>11769333 not yet

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:54:07 2021 No.11769397 >>11769323 Was gonna say that Adele obviously have her beat but of course you meant vtubers. Hmmm, how do you filter for that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:54:37 2021 No.11769413 >>11769365 Still here, 3 of them are singing together

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:54:51 2021 No.11769424 Actual Hoshiyomis won't shit on Toko. Those are just shitposters.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:55:31 2021 No.11769451 >>11769366 I swear we should start putting "Ironic shitposting is still shitposting in the op if this keeps up, it's ridiculous how often that old adage gets forgotten

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:55:48 2021 No.11769466 >>11769413 they are not

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:55:56 2021 No.11769470 >>11769397 Ed Sheeran :

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:56:55 2021 No.11769490 >>11769333 right now

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:57:13 2021 No.11769500 Daily anon, just put out top winners already. We have a winner here. There's nothing stopping Suisei's reign today.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:57:26 2021 No.11769507 >>11769397 Yep they are

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:58:28 2021 No.11769539 >>11769500 Isn't Marine's comeback stream today?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:58:55 2021 No.11769551 >>11769539 no she extended her break

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:58:58 2021 No.11769554 >>11769539 She tweeted that her break is gonna extend.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:58:59 2021 No.11769555 >>11769397 Spotify is not that big in JP, so we only need to focus on Hololive, Kizuna AI,and KAMITSUBAKI.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:59:02 2021 No.11769556 >>11769539 Postponed to November.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 09:59:16 2021 No.11769564 >>11769500 Nah, we wait until the end of the day. Can't be calling shit early, never know who decides to stream in the last few hours.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:00:08 2021 No.11769589 >>11769564 My prediction is always on point. Just looking at the scheduled streams today from Holos and Nijis. Nothing is gonna top 42k.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:00:58 2021 No.11769608 >>11769500 If it were in the past I would argue that a random Kuzuha Apex stream would snipe her out and steal the throne for himself. Alas, the king is dead. Still, who knows if Ayame decides to stream today.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:01:01 2021 No.11769610 >>11769424 Speak for yourself. I'm a huge Suisei fan but I don't tolerate Niji SCUM.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:02:00 2021 No.11769637 >>11769608 ayame streams land in the 20-30k range, it'd take a really special occasion for it to break 43k

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:02:02 2021 No.11769641 >>11769564 There's no apex tournament or baseball stream, ofc holo gonna top the day

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:02:29 2021 No.11769650 >>11769424 Fuck off, nigger.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:02:45 2021 No.11769664 >>11769589 Oh, I'm pretty sure it WOULD be safe, but why rush?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:03:27 2021 No.11769692 either random ayame or pekora collab could take the day still

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:03:49 2021 No.11769708 >>11769610 >>11769424 >>11769325 I too don't like most of the Nijis but Toko is one of the tolerable. I only watch her if she's with Suisie and she's not that bad comapred to other nijis

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:04:26 2021 No.11769731 >>11769555 Ok then Mori RIP 10,075,748 Live Again 6,988,756 Dead Beats 5,634,904 Off With Tehir Heads 5,517,918 Suisei NCP 3,600,718 Ghost 2,687,832 Kamitsubaki アンサー 3,659,179

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:04:47 2021 No.11769747 >>11769692 Pekora and Miko finally tell the story of what happened during that sleepover last Christmas. Imagine the numbers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:05:11 2021 No.11769760 File: 25 KB, 952x588, 1625182567607.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Trending in the US and Japan, Suisei is powerful

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:05:24 2021 No.11769770 >>11769692 >random ayame HAHAHAHAAHAHAHHHAHAHA

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:06:21 2021 No.11769795 >>11769760 >#1 worldwide damn

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:06:59 2021 No.11769824 File: 10 KB, 345x302, suichan trend.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:07:52 2021 No.11769852 >>11769760 >#1 worldwide Google Trends guy isn't going to like this

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:08:29 2021 No.11769872 >>11769760 goddamn, how many people are watching this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:09:33 2021 No.11769928 >>11769760 im gonna guess suichan is making as much money from this show as her album sales

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:09:42 2021 No.11769936

>>11769747
By putting "The truth behind the coldwar between Pekora and Miko" would easily get 100k

But i don't think they fought during the Christmas sleepover since they still partnered during bloom and miko listed peko as the holo she gets along the most

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:10:41 2021 No.11769978 >actual KPOP stan tier numberfagging Holobronies have become parodies of themselves

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:10:51 2021 No.11769982 >>11769760 damn stop mogging on the only thing that niji has a chance suityan!

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:11:09 2021 No.11769993 >>11769928 65/50 split on live/digital tickets, plus all the fucking merch? You fucking bet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:11:10 2021 No.11769995 File: 35 KB, 717x470, 1621127856267.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Watame for comparison, this was at the end of her sololive

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:11:13 2021 No.11769998 >>11769978 Desperation.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:11:24 2021 No.11770006 >>11769731 Mori 1.RIP 10,075,748 2.Live Again 6,988,756 3.Dead Beats 5,634,904 4.Off With Tehir Heads 5,517,918 REM 5.Carnivorous plant 5,493,521 Gura 6.REFLECT 5,441,418

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:11:36 2021 No.11770011 >>11769872 There's 400 people watching the restream from a link here. You can imagine how many people watching outside of this board. I'll give a rough estimate, it's probably around 20-30k that purchased stream ticket.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:11:41 2021 No.11770013 >>11769928 So a nice 1 million then?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:11:50 2021 No.11770016 >>11769978 >KPOP stan Another new namecall. I see...

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:12:38 2021 No.11770059 >Concert happen >Threat run way faster than usual Many such cases

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:12:50 2021 No.11770067 >>11769978 NIJICOPE

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:13:53 2021 No.11770111 >>11770006 Thanks anon, I lost interest in doing it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:14:43 2021 No.11770147 >>11770011 and 200 on another

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:15:07 2021 No.11770155 >>11769978 hololive have grown so much we are getting compared to kpop numberfagging, thank you anon for making me realize that

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:16:19 2021 No.11770190 >>11770155 Anon don't kid yourself, hololive is far from being able to compete with kpop niggers, that guy is just being a salty nijinigger

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:17:35 2021 No.11770235 >>11770190 Hey, at least we can see the tail lights of Kpop fags for once.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:18:22 2021 No.11770260 >>11770155 Don't freaking wish for it because the vtuber community will be polluted even more than right now

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:18:43 2021 No.11770269 >>11770190 You fuck, learn to read sarcasm lmao. learn to make a fool out of them

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:19:00 2021 No.11770277 >>11769978 As someone who used to be active in kpop numberfagging, vtuber numberfagging is baby shit even compared to what would go on between 2 groups let alone the whole industry.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:19:51 2021 No.11770296 File: 337 KB, 660x371, 1631684416896.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11770269 I prefer just using out of context non-seqitor reaction images

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:20:28 2021 No.11770312 >>11770277 Aren't they backed up by their government?? Their rival is Anime Industry as a whole itself

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:20:28 2021 No.11770313 >>11770260 Good. This is the numbers thread and I want the biggest numbers possible to more effectively shit on Nijikeks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:22:51 2021 No.11770377 >>11769928 a lot of people take a cut from album sales, retailers usually 30%, so yeah, even with Japan's inflated physicals media prices, 1 digital concert should make way more than the limited printing so far.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:23:45 2021 No.11770395 >>11770312 A decent amount of it yes, kpop became popular enough to be used as a tourism vehicle. Just imagine the japanese government putting out advertisements that included >Come to Japan, we have vtuber concerts and events!

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:24:30 2021 No.11770417 >>11769995 Watame's concert was rated "a massive success", can't imagine how Suisei's would qualify. Fans are happy with with both either way.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:26:07 2021 No.11770464 >>11770395 Anime-only fans and Vtuber fans would have to get along first. Afterall a lot of them hates vtubers

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:26:30 2021 No.11770475 File: 42 KB, 941x187, image_2021-10-21_132543.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fubuki is just 1 video away from passing 200 million views, Gura and Calli are about 2-3 weeks away too unless they drop another song.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:27:12 2021 No.11770510 >>11770395 Cute, but unlikely to happen considering anime and well vtubers too helped the declining birthrate.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:27:52 2021 No.11770536 Holojp-san, Holoen girls please stream over Risu outfit reveal, just because

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:28:16 2021 No.11770547 >>11770464 A lot of anime fans turned to Vtubers back in 2020, it's not much of a stretch. On the other hand vtuber only fans regularly call anime fans "normies". Pretty cringe.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:28:35 2021 No.11770559 >>11770475 Man, that's with the cull from the Holocaust... I wonder what their real views would be for all of the older Holomem otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:28:37 2021 No.11770560 >>11770475 Gura is going to release a song and pass Fubuki at the last minute to a milestone again! Now we just need an autist to bring it up in Fubuki's chat. Timeloops.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:28:47 2021 No.11770564 >>11770475 > 1 video away from passing 200 million views Out of her non privated videos. There was this time, very recently, that Marine jumped 7M views by unprivating a dozen videos or so.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:29:22 2021 No.11770586 >>11770510 Declining birthrate is not a japan-only thing. It happens to all developed countries.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:29:54 2021 No.11770597 >>11765812 tell me more

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:30:15 2021 No.11770607 >>11770547 Well those people are idiots so fair. On the other hand, Hololive has completely supplanted my quota of cgdct anime, and I don't think I've felt the need to watch an episode of that genre since I fell headfirst into this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:30:26 2021 No.11770612 >>11770559 I remember some other anon making rough calculations and it wasn't that much since most of the videos are low views because they were before the boom. Don't remember the numbers they came up with though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:30:38 2021 No.11770620 >>11770475 That is without her short clips too. She'd be there already with Scatman.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:31:08 2021 No.11770636 >>11770564 yep, doing a stream releasing a short or just unprivating something and she's over those 33k views needed

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:31:58 2021 No.11770663 >>11769760 a lot of it is complaining about spwn tho

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:32:25 2021 No.11770689 >>11770536 If Pekora decides to stream then Risu is fucked

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:32:25 2021 No.11770688 >>11770559 I know some holomem unprivated some vods from the holocaust, the one I remember is Miko unprivated a bunch of GTA stream and her total views jumped at least 3M in a sudden.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:33:02 2021 No.11770716 File: 3 KB, 169x87, 1607751625842.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11769928 Already passed Watame and we still have half an hour left.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:33:11 2021 No.11770727 >>11770612 Early boom would've been early 2020, plenty of vids from that time to beef up numbers though, but yea anything pre-late 2019 would be relatively small.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:33:16 2021 No.11770730 >>11770663 COPE

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:33:24 2021 No.11770737 >>11770689 She deserves it

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:33:29 2021 No.11770739 Archive those sololive numbers boys because we're gonna need it when the time comes for Kuzuha's concert

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:33:46 2021 No.11770755 File: 274 KB, 534x917, 99DC3C3A-3A74-4BEA-933D-A868A2ACC74F.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] * current top, unfiltered * Looking like another very skinny day

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:34:10 2021 No.11770794 >>11770559 Keep in mind old members (0~3 gen) still have lots of private video, maybe they will be unprivated if Cover negotiates with game companies.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:34:48 2021 No.11770824 >>11770739 >when the time comes for Kuzuha's concert It’s scheduled already?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:35:13 2021 No.11770835 >kirameki rider as the encore >no ncp suzy?!?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:35:40 2021 No.11770847 File: 2 KB, 186x86, 1634567805703.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11770663

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:35:47 2021 No.11770851

>>11770620
It's hard to estimate because many videos have come and gone, but she would be closer to 250 million with all the shorts with western songs that got deleted and all the privated streams.
Scatman with the 2-3 versions it had would have been closer to 10 million views combined if still available.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:35:54 2021 No.11770855 >>11770716 Suisei and Watame are my 1a and 1b, but when it comes to music, Suisei is much more popular than Watame so it isn't really a fair comparison.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:36:55 2021 No.11770894 >>11770663 A way to think about it would be, you can't bitch about SPWN if you aren't watching it on SPWN lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:36:58 2021 No.11770896 >>11770835 Watame had like 4 encores, pretty sure ncp will show up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:37:06 2021 No.11770900 >>11770824 It's on his birthday

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:38:05 2021 No.11770923 File: 29 KB, 1103x274, image_2021-10-21_133755.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11770688 FBK recovered to 60% available videos instantly after The Privating, but she had to remove all the EN language shorts back in April.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:39:22 2021 No.11770969 >>11770894 A way to think about it is if SPWN didn't shit the bed then those complain tweets would be about the concert indeed, maybe not as much but still significant.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:44:08 2021 No.11771131 >>11770377 both album and concert had digital versions, still comparable

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:44:56 2021 No.11771191 >>11770835 HERE WE GO

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:46:51 2021 No.11771264 Isn't Suisei big in Taiwan? Does Twitter not track there or is this random tracking site playing it safe?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:49:29 2021 No.11771358 >>11771264 >Taiwan north or south?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:49:49 2021 No.11771373 It seems that Kson will be the next 1M, and Nimu is the next 1M non-convert.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:50:06 2021 No.11771385 File: 764 KB, 1195x672, 1618125955184.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] huh this is an interesting slide

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:51:17 2021 No.11771439 >>11771385 is Converse Tokyo their own thing or is it American like the main brand?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:51:44 2021 No.11771465 >>11771385 translate, weeb

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:52:51 2021 No.11771507 File: 647 KB, 1452x1448, Taiwan doko.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11771264 forgot image >>11771358 Bets

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:53:06 2021 No.11771514 >>11771465 it's a future hololive x converse tokyo collab, but the interesting thing is how Suisei is listed as seperate to hololive. It seems that she still maintains significant control over her own IP

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:53:14 2021 No.11771522 >>11771385 Huh, merch? I sure hope it is actual talent clothing and not "inspired" merch like that stupid League of Legends Louis Vuitton shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:53:34 2021 No.11771540 >>11771465 Hoshimachi Suisei vs. Converse collaboration item

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:53:43 2021 No.11771546 >>11771507 why's SEA so low?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:54:07 2021 No.11771559 >>11771507 Twitter doesn't track taiwan as a seperate country, thanks to the bugmen and their fragile hearts

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:54:16 2021 No.11771566 >>11771514 Could possibly just be a Suisei collab and none of the other talents are part of it, which is why her logo is there.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:54:45 2021 No.11771584 >>11771546 because it has a paywall

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:54:50 2021 No.11771588 >>11771514 Yes, she still retains the rights to the name and original design of Suisei, smart girl.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:55:21 2021 No.11771607 >>11771385 Cmon hololive collab with NB pls I need another comfy shoes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:55:54 2021 No.11771632 >>11771546 #7 flipland, that's all me

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:55:57 2021 No.11771635

>>11771385
Bushiroad got their cards shilled on stage in the free part of the concert. That must’ve been worth quite a bit. Plus these other sponsors I wonder if they even had to risk much up front at all. If she hit #1 trending worldwide that bodes well for her ticket and merch sales. Apparently Watames concert was considered a huge success but this is another level entirely

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:57:18 2021 No.11771684 >>11771373 Pretty sure, both way before the end of the year even. Question is, who will be next >>11738426

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 10:58:20 2021 No.11771712 >>11771635 Imagine being bushiroad, the sole sponsor of Hololive concerts. How much money do they earn man

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:00:47 2021 No.11771794 File: 330 KB, 1000x750, 1613509587019.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >LOLOLOL

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:01:30 2021 No.11771821 >>11771546 Probably because early evening SEA is news primetime and has competition while it's early in the morning in North America so no twitter wars yet

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:01:47 2021 No.11771826 >>11771794 Oh this I gotta see. r/hololive really does not like Gura numbers and comparisons turn into shitshows with Gura in particular.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:03:18 2021 No.11771864 >>11771712 I think the boxes of cards the Holos have opened on stream would literally pay for the venue rental

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:04:04 2021 No.11771890 >>11771826 Are you exaggerating anon? Most of the comments in every milestone celebration thread are generally positive. They only get downvoted if you try to compare, but celebrating it as its own thing is always accepted.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:05:28 2021 No.11771934 >>11771826 Anon, how's things in that alternate reality of yours?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:06:40 2021 No.11771970 File: 135 KB, 1464x310, Screenshot - 2021-10-21 , 12_05_30.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Everybody opening very skinny. The days surely are different when Pekora, Rushia and Marine aren't in the field right from the start of the primetime

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:07:08 2021 No.11771987 >>11771890 >>11771934 Everything is burning down, so it's a bit cozy. Probably just bias desu, I remember Gura comparisons being way more looked down upon because she has the big stick in the block.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:07:11 2021 No.11771990 >>11771794 Gura halfway to 4M and Kizuna is still at 2.98M kek.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:08:46 2021 No.11772040 >>11771990 Gods, she really may make it to 4m before Ai makes it to 3m... I thought it was unlikely, but that NFT nonsense probably nailed her subgrowth to the floor...

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:08:55 2021 No.11772041 >>11771987 Maybe you mean in the other subreddit, virtualyoutubers, where people comparing Kizuna and Gura subs were heavily downvoted and argued against.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:10:50 2021 No.11772096 the absolute state of nijimerch https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1451024263020879878?s=20

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:10:51 2021 No.11772097 >>11772040 Ai should just ditch everything in the past and redebut, or at least get genmates/kouhais so she'll have people to bounce off to rather than just talking to herself. And ditch NFT.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:11:34 2021 No.11772119 >>11771970 miko is ill too

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:11:54 2021 No.11772126 https://twitter.com/Gilzaren_III/status/1451139448259760132 Kek

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:13:23 2021 No.11772174 >>11772097 She does have "genmates", it's jsut that for whatever reason she rarely interacts with Love-chan, Ai pii, and the chinese Ai.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:15:04 2021 No.11772226 >>11772126 i thought this guy's dead?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:15:22 2021 No.11772234 >>11772096 >https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1451024263020879878?s=20 As long as there's demand, but still kek

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:16:40 2021 No.11772277 >>11772226 Return back to life just to watch Suisei's sololive, pretty based if you ask me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:17:26 2021 No.11772299 >>11772277 based beyond belief.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:18:30 2021 No.11772329 >>11772234 That's the Niji model though, lower cost merch that throws a wider net, much like their liver expansion strategy. Not sure why this is news to anyone who pays attention.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:18:57 2021 No.11772348 >>11772126 >>11772277 where's Coco's tweet? did she hate Sui all along?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:19:07 2021 No.11772354 >>11771970 >Rushia Her CCV is not top tier, retard

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:21:43 2021 No.11772414 >>11772097 Man, there's so much that went wrong with Ai.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:23:05 2021 No.11772450 >>11772354 >Her CCV is not top tier w8 for her return stream

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:24:19 2021 No.11772476 >>11772174 They’re not important enough to be associated with her. Instead she will collab with everyone else but Hololive to try to boost her numbers.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:26:14 2021 No.11772533

>>11772354
>Her CCV is not top tier, retard
kek, imagine believing that. Here is the histogram of CCV for Rushia for 2021

>0 to 9999 :: 17 streams (8.9%)
>10000 to 19999 :: 141 streams (74.2%)
>20000 to 29999 :: 23 streams (12.1%)
>30000 to 39999 :: 4 streams (2.1%)
>40000 to 49999 :: 2 streams (1.1%)
>60000 to 69999 :: 1 streams (0.5%)
>70000 to 79999 :: 1 streams (0.5%)
>100000 to 109999 :: 1 streams (0.5%)

If having more than 90% of her streams over 10k is not "top tier CCV" I don't know what would be

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:27:18 2021 No.11772556 >>11772354 What is top tier CCV numbers anon? 10k?20k?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:28:46 2021 No.11772591 >>11772533 I said She's not Pekora,Marine,Gura,Miko,Subaru,Ayame tier, retard

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:29:06 2021 No.11772596 >>11772556 to be fair he is kinda right. she is High tier, not top tier in term of ccv

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:29:18 2021 No.11772602 >>11772354 Rushia is in the "Get 10k on a blank screen" tier, which is already high for Holos. She's a CCV titan compared to Nijis and other non-Holos.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:29:47 2021 No.11772612 >>11772533 Big numberbrainrot pls undahstand. Like for real, 5 digit CCV on the regular easily lands you in streamer royalty across both Twithc and YouTube.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:31:20 2021 No.11772645 >>11772612 She gets good numbers but you can't compare her to Pekora and Marine. That is a bit too much.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:31:57 2021 No.11772663 >>11772596 10k used to be top tier anon, that's the baseline that nijifans used for their graph, and until recently we used it too, until Koshien and Gura Costume reveal at least.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:32:55 2021 No.11772689

>>11772596
>High tier, not top tier
>>11772591
>She's not Pekora,Marine,Gura,Miko,Subaru,Ayame tier, retard

Here is the top 10 median of peak CCV for Hololive for the month of September

>31341 :: ayame
>30290 :: pekora
>29423 :: marine
>23638 :: gura
>21483 :: miko
>17213 :: subaru
>16955 :: korone
>16347 :: aqua
>15705 :: suisei
>15346 :: rushia

"Top tier", "high tier", the distinction here is meaningless and subjective, it depends on where you put the cutting point

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:33:06 2021 No.11772692

>>11772645
True, but among vtubers there really are only a handful that even come close. Among streamers, the number frankly doesn't even exceed 20 that can match them on the regular, and well, Pekora is clearly the number 1 female GAMING streamer (Yes, I know the ur-ethot exists, but she's clearly not a gaming streamer)

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:34:17 2021 No.11772732 >>11772591 >shes not miko,subaru tier yes she is

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:35:44 2021 No.11772775 >>11772689 >it depends on where you put the cutting point well she is in the bottom of this list, anon but i will prefer to stop spliting hairs

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:35:53 2021 No.11772782

>>11772689
Even if you consider the mean average of peaks, Rushia is still top 10 of the company

>33174 :: pekora
>29795 :: marine
>28366 :: ayame
>25691 :: gura
>21307 :: miko
>20266 :: aqua
>19689 :: botan
>18334 :: subaru
>17140 :: korone
>16727 :: rushia

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:38:11 2021 No.11772843 October 2021 tiers >top tier 30000+ >high tier 20000-29999 >good tier 15000-19999 >okay tier 10000-14999 >matuli tier below 10000

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:38:16 2021 No.11772845 >>11772689 >Be Ayame >Long Break >Return >Karaoke >AVG 30k >Long Break . . .

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:39:42 2021 No.11772880 >>11772845 yeah.. this 1 is rigged

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:40:13 2021 No.11772894 I can never take Ayame numbers seriously.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:41:18 2021 No.11772916 Why are people triggered by Ayame's rarity strat? She's working smarter for big numbers. Only big numbers really matter here.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:41:19 2021 No.11772917 >>11772845 where is >plays lol >has anal sex with her bf >ruins her guts

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:41:42 2021 No.11772930

>>11772775
Being at the bottom of a "top 10" list is still being at the top 10 but you're right.

The original point still stands: out of that combined 12 out of both top 10 here are the state of each streamer

>ayame (ayame)
>marine (break)
>rushia (break)
>aqua (infrequent)

>botan (no reservation yet)
>korone (no reservation yet)
>pekora (no reservation yet)

>miko (streaming)
>subaru (streaming)
>gura (streamed)
>suisei (streamed)

Depending on the girls that still didn't make a reservation it promises to be a very lean day

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:42:12 2021 No.11772945 >>11772843 What is this retardation? Legit brain damage.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:42:21 2021 No.11772950 >>11772894 link cover

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:42:43 2021 No.11772961 >>11772930 AHEM >combined 11 >>11772916 >Why are people triggered by Ayame's rarity strat? Only non numberfags >She's working smarter for big numbers. Only big numbers really matter here. DAMN RIGHT

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:43:45 2021 No.11772988 File: 123 KB, 853x739, manlets.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11772945 >What is this retardation? Legit brain damage. kek, it's this thread equivalent of >the new manlet chart

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:44:31 2021 No.11773006 Well just to get the bait out of the way, premieres don't count, but this will probably get 50k again today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tOFX4gIEXY Don't bite guys.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:44:32 2021 No.11773007 >>11772930 >botan im not sure about Botan in this list. at this point you can add Nene too

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:45:23 2021 No.11773033
File: 322 KB, 1920x1080, Screenshot - 2021-10-21 , 12_16_56.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

I missed Sora's announcement, here is a screenshot.
Other than the date of release how does the rest of the information there differs from their regular album releases?

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:46:25 2021 No.11773062

>>11773007
>im not sure about Botan in this list. at this point you can add Nene too
See >>11772782, she made into the top 10 for the mean average of peaks for this month
>which is the metric that that colored cell chart with the top since 2019-04 uses

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:48:32 2021 No.11773105 File: 271 KB, 518x1163, Collab.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ayame is top tier but rushia is not lol. Stop the retardation

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:49:12 2021 No.11773118 >>11773006 It's not CCV, but it did generate a lot of views so it counts there, if anyone wants to acknowledge vod views as a metric.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:49:35 2021 No.11773125 >>11773007 Why? Botan can get 10K+ fairly consistently and her peak average is good. Nene is not on her level.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:50:19 2021 No.11773138 >>11773105 >exact same peaks >rushia kept waiting 30 minutes while doing nothing, waiting for ayame to show up

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:51:54 2021 No.11773177 >>11773062 >>11773125 >Botan can get 10K+ fairly consistently and her peak average is good. i always thought about Botan as 8-12k girl but this shit is crazy>>11772782 im gonna do my reps

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:53:22 2021 No.11773218 >>11773033 Sora has to release her stuff through her record label instead of Cover so it’s more just to inform her fans i guess.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:54:52 2021 No.11773256
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>>11773138
Yep that right. Ayame is not really that higher than rushia isn't it? So i don't understand the ayame is top tier and rushia's not BS.

If ayame is really a top tier she would get much more numbers than rushia.

Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:55:51 2021 No.11773286
File: 516 KB, 916x700, ayame smug.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>Ayame
If you guys REALLY want to seethe about who should be the EMPRESS of numberfags, I'll give you a reason

* TOP 10 MEDIAN OF PEAKS, October 2021 so far *
>86039 :: ayame
>28915 :: pekora
>22336 :: gura
>18133 :: miko
>17779 :: suisei
>17496 :: subaru
>16699 :: shion
>16415 :: aqua
>15418 :: rushia
>13829 :: ouro

And also

* TOP 10 AVERAGE OF PEAKS, October 2021 so far *
>86039 :: ayame
>31733 :: pekora
>27918 :: suisei
>24055 :: subaru
>22897 :: gura
>21616 :: noel
>20700 :: aqua
>20357 :: miko
>18902 :: korone
>17690 :: rushia

>inb4 seething
KNEEL BEFORE YOUR EMPRESS!

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:56:24 2021 No.11773302 >>11773033 I'm pretty sure that's all stuff that's already been put out in press releases but Sora is just telling her youtube audience.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:57:58 2021 No.11773338 >>11773286 Empress... my knees... I must kneel! Speaking of which, kneelposters have been awfully quiet since October started. Heh.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 11:58:17 2021 No.11773342 File: 1.37 MB, 1712x1063, watame kneel.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11773286 I APOLOGIZE OJOU

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 12:01:16 2021 No.11773414 >>11772096 https://twitter.com/HiculStore/status/1448559201442217984 better?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 12:01:26 2021 No.11773418 >>11773006 No problem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgD2O3IZlJ8

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 12:01:28 2021 No.11773420 >>11773286 I like Pekora and Kuzuha, so it's really easy for me to kneel to them. But I have no feelings towards Ayame. I kneel for her numbers and just her numbers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 12:04:43 2021 No.11773510 >>11773414 Akina looks so much like a loser trying to appear cool.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 12:06:46 2021 No.11773557 https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1451145740735164421 They're putting Suzy's concert on bluray, be interesting to see the sales of it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 12:07:03 2021 No.11773562 No Pekora stream again today??

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 12:07:57 2021 No.11773578 >>11773562 Busy with 3rd gen concert stuff, its why she did that morning stream because she would be unable to do a couple nights.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 21 12:09:04 2021 No.11773607 >>11773557 Blu-ray release for concerts is a pretty standard practice so it's not much of an announcement. If 2view Nijis gets BDs of their concerts, then you can bet on every Holo concert getting a BD release too.

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