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11502420 No.11502420 [Reply] [Original]

Nijibros... Not like this...

>> No.11502453

>>11502420
99% of streamers would kill for those views

>> No.11502466

>>11502420
>Gura killers they said
TOP FUCKING KEK

>> No.11502558

>>11502466
Anyone calling them gura killers were being ironic
And you're a retard for taking them seriously.

>> No.11502570 [DELETED] 

>>11502420
>Phasmophobia
WTF were they thinking. It's literally the most overplayed game in vtubing that isn't Minecraft or Apex.
Also nice >MUH CREATIVE FREEDUMBS there Nijiniggers

>> No.11502615

>>11502420
What were millies live viewers in her past life?
Maybe going niji was a mistake.

>> No.11502622

>>11502570
Creative Freedom really is the most worthless buzzword ever. None of the indies ever impressed me with it, some of the things they do are neat but not enough to make a huge difference overall.

>> No.11502660

>>11502558
>I didn't mean it really
>stop reminding me of how incompetent I was

>> No.11502705

>>11502660
No. No one meant it.
No one in their right mind would think Niji who hovers around 100k subs would ever get into the millions.
Well... except you.

>> No.11502865
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>>11502705
No one meant it because it's embarassing to you to admit, do you seriously think 100% of people saying that weren't legit? are you going to rule out the chance that some people actually were serious based on many pre launch speculations like past lives and avatars?
lol

>> No.11502981

>>11502420
Niji really hurt themselves by releasing so many people, they should have really chilled after 3rd gen

>> No.11503374

Pretty funny that the only company that is comparable to Hololive in terms of numbers has such as large gap in views for their EN branches lol. No wonder Hololive only scouts large talent, while Nijisan just gets any indie schmuck to join

>> No.11503534

>>11502453
streamers would kill for nijien 1 views. they would perhaps for nijien2 views too, but for nijien3, they will probably only suck a stranger off....
the bubble is bursting!!

>> No.11504549

>>11503534
More like nijis are eating themselves

>> No.11504583

>>11502865
>do you seriously think 100% of people saying that weren't legit
Yes.

>> No.11504597
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>>11504549
Pictured, Nijis eating themselves.

>> No.11504698

>>11502420
Maybe getting a collab with Crunchy-hime would help revitalize the interest of the fans cause she's actually skilled and talented unlike NijiEN's nepotism hires?

>> No.11504722

>>11502865
>do you seriously think 100% of people saying that weren't legit?

Yes? Look at Gura's subscribers. Look at Lazulight's numbers and growth. Anyone thinking anyone but Gura herself will be a "gura killer" is blazed out of their mind

>> No.11504923

>>11502981
But it means more money for the company, yes?

>> No.11505010

>>11504722
With the design and who people thought the VA was gonna be, the Gura Killer joke wasn't serious, but they did think she would be a breakout star that would be Niji EN's version of Gura.

>> No.11505029

>>11502570
Selen got her most concurrent viewers ever I think during her Phasmo marathon.

>> No.11505079

>>11505029
Selen is a different animal

>> No.11505082

I'm not a fan of Nijisanji, but they gave me my oshi Selen, and that's what really matters.

>> No.11505194

>>11505029
Well that is because it is Selen...

>> No.11505214

>>11504923
Short term? A little bit more, maybe, if they can pay off the cost of their avatar. They probably break even at like 40-50k SC (+members cut and ad rev) for the model, advertising, administrative costs to do the talent search, art assets ect. We're looking at potentially devaluing your brand permanently for some pocket change though, which is exactly what they've done in the Korean and Indonesian markets. Dumped so many low quality streamers onto the market at such a rapid pace that no one cares about the branch. They've done a better job with EN, and I wouldn't call the EN streamers low quality, but they aren't giving them room to breathe and the streamers aren't strong enough to power through it, most of them being only moderately successful in their past personas.

>> No.11505222

>>11505082
Selenfags are the worst.

>> No.11505258

>>11505222
Cries the Pomufag

>> No.11505439

>>11505214
KR is different is it not? I've heard Koreans aren't big on using YouTube since they have their own video platform and when some KR's sometimes stream on Twitch they get significantly more views. Maybe not enough for four digits, but still more than usual.

>> No.11505490

>>11505439
That's just because twitch doesn't have whatever YouTube does that slashes ccv in half

>> No.11505740

>>11502420
Indie numbers then, indie numbers now. O i am laffin

>> No.11505812

>>11505490
It's often more than double their normal amount. More Koreans are willing to use Twitch over YouTube. It was more than just Twitch showing what their true audience is while YT not counting people properly.

>> No.11508787

>>11502420
I still don't get how their tard of a CEO doesn't get that they should slow down how often gens are introduced. It's the most basic as fuck advice that he somehow can't follow

>> No.11509072

>>11502420
Maybe the wave 4 will save them

>> No.11509106

>>11505029
It's not the game but how you play it that matters

>> No.11509162

This company doing trial and error will get them exhausted. But if they have money for that well. Good luck

>> No.11509230

>>11508787
Nah, their best chance is to push out as many talents as possible, hope one of them make it big, and let him/her carry the branch forward.

>> No.11511141

Surprise, surprise, the indie 2views you retards constantly suck off aren't as good as you thought.

>> No.11511193

>>11509072
>Maybe the wave 4 will save them
wave 4 will be males only..

>> No.11513875

>>11502453
Multiple of those girls had pretty similar viewers before so basically a few more views in exchange for being a corposlave sharing revenue.

>> No.11514033

>>11503374
Holo go for talents regardless of their viewership of vtubing experience, while Niji mostly picked the big number en vtuber indies around which feels pointless.

>> No.11514057
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>>11505029
Selen my beloved

>> No.11515504

>>11502420
Graduation soon. Then perhaps they can join Sony's group of 50 chubaas

>> No.11515541

>>11502466
Im the gura killer

>> No.11516017

>>11513875
Seriously? Huh, I wouldn't be surprise if we see graduations by 2023 if things don't improve.

>> No.11516177

>>11502453
This, honeys.

>> No.11516233
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>>11516017
a bit inflated by the graduation stream but still was pretty high

>> No.11516248

>>11516017
They have to provide proof of that, not only that the screen shot was taken before some of them peaked. I think only Reimu didn't hit 1k and capped out at 800 or 900. Though that's the point of a bait thread.

>> No.11516271

>>11516017
Vtubers need to stop copying each other

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>>11502622
It's a lull right now. Just wait for winter when the red deer make it unsafe to go outside and many people become neets to avoid the jab while the economy melts down. New viewers and new streamers.

>> No.11516831

>>11516233
she needs to bring out the tagalog streams

>> No.11516891

the only actual gura killers (who come from the same background) ARE in HoloEN.

>> No.11516920

>>11516891
None of them are Gura killers. You won't beat her at her own game.

>> No.11517075

>>11516652
Yep. Getting a lot of girls now is an investment for when cash is worthless. It's gonna be way different when these ethots' surethings turn into slave contracts and they are begging for sc.

>> No.11517125

>>11517075
Too late.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9XNuDr-K9U

>> No.11517134

>>11502453
I've seen some lots of different levels of cope, but this one is pretty up there

>> No.11517207

>>11517125
So much SOUL

>> No.11517831

any fappable nijistream

>> No.11517917

>>11517831
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4NfDaQwYsY
Here fap to this and ignore the chat

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>>11517831
Suzuka Utako new outfit reveal.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=xgeV4tMHtEY

>> No.11517979

>>11502865
This is your brain on /vt/.

>> No.11518062

Lets dig some statistics from PLs:

Fox
140 avg viewers, 1400 max

Ghost
30 avg, 120 max

Birb
90 avg, 400 max

Witch
140 avg, 870 max

Source - iketog.

So overall 3rd Gen has much more numbers than their indie past.

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So will NijiEN Males have even WORSE numbers?

>> No.11518364

>>11502420
Fact: Vtuber hype is dead, the market is oversaturated, seasonal viewers are gone and permament vtuber fans are spread between all the streamers.

These numbers are actually pretty good, retard. Comparing anything to Hololive EN G1 that has literally best brand attached to them and debuted in most hype for EN vtubing moment is just invalid and dub.

>> No.11520785

>>11518364
>>11518364
>Fact: Vtuber hype is dead,
True
>the market is oversaturated,
Wrong. There is no such thing as oversaturation. The real problem here is non-Japanese viewers only watch Hololive and algorithm only lock you with Hololive content doesn't help either. Ironically, spamming more vtubers actually help. And they should spam more meme clips too.
>seasonal viewers are gone and permament vtuber fans are spread between all the streamers.
It's not. It never spread. EOP only watch Hololive.
>These numbers are actually pretty good, retard. Comparing anything to Hololive EN G1 that has literally best brand attached to them and debuted in most hype for EN vtubing moment is just invalid and dub.

You are right. Especially when they just debut recently.

>> No.11522591

>>11520785
It could be that NijiEN are bad a branding....nah, blame the customers/fanbase.

>> No.11522770

>>11518062
No shit nigger, but becoming 3view again on your debut week is not a good look

>> No.11522894

>>11513875
That's a terrible tradeoff

>> No.11523003

>>11522591
If Nijisanji is a bad branding, all their talent wouldn't get 100k subs and consistent 1k views. Nijisanji is a good brand. EOP views them as weaponized Hololive gone ballistic. And praised them as crazy bunch. However, they are lack of exposure. And most EOP are too lazy or too devoted to branch out. And they just there for clout and trend. So it's 100% customers fault.

>> No.11523539

>>11505029
Probably because the game was hyped and actually fun to watch, also only selen’s perspective so everyone is funneled to her stream. That is until pomu came along and knocked off more than 1k of selen’s viewers. But we don’t talk about that.

>> No.11523759

>>11520785
Hololive En management has also helped build a closed community. There have been very little collabs outside of the company for En, which helps close the community. So naturally the fans are a lot more insulated as well.

>> No.11524131 [DELETED] 

>>11523759
That is why I wish nothing but destruction of HoloEn and Cover. This practice is scummy and goes against what old vtubers should be. Other companies like Nijisanji, 774inc, VSPO, dotLive, Re-Act, Eilene, the Heavenly Kings and even early Hololive are built in in cameraderie between vtubers across companies. Fan exchange was common. Japanese not only watch Nijisanji but also other companies as well. But then HoloEn explode and locked all new vtubers fans inside their bubbles. And doomed all starting companies to irrelevancy because Holobronies are brand dead NPC.

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>>11502420
Hundreds of thousands of people already gave NijiEN a try, and said "no thank you". NijiEN is just not appealing. Even the Nijisanji fanbase won't even watch the new waves. The latest NijiJP wave is declining every week, so does NijiKR, NijiID and NijiEN. It's so bad that they are begging holofans to watch them because they don't want to watch their own chuubas.

>> No.11524658

>>11509072
Sureeee, if anything the males will need saving as they scramble to pick up whatever crumbs and opportunities at relevance the girls left behind after they hog and milk all the fans.

>> No.11524695

>>11524658
They are all going to be elira's friends anyways, so they won't have much to complain

>> No.11524777

>>11524131
Cover has pretty much the En market cornered, the only way that they can fuck up right now, barring a mass exodus of Holos, is if they make a very bad business decision, an investment that would cost them a lot of money.

>> No.11524867

something's wrong with management when a talent can get more views as an indie than in her reborn corporate form

>> No.11525003

>>11524867
They don't even do anything. What AnyColor can do?
>promotion
They already did that
>advertising
They already did that
>song
They already did that.

>> No.11525332

>doing a phasmo collab right after selen did one with nearly everyone in NijiEN
>said collab went on for nearly 11 hours
I blame it on NijiEN for not hiring more gaymers

>> No.11525366

>>11525332
This. They should hire Ban Anya for FGC kino.

>> No.11525436

>>11502615
From what I remembered, she only pulled hundreds, not thousands, live.

>> No.11525468

>>11525003
>What AnyColor can do?
differentiate themselves from the competition

>> No.11525543

But you guys told me that NijiEN was inclining… I believed you fellow nijibros…

>> No.11525583

>>11518062
given the witch had probably the most hyperactive of fanbases, was it worth graduating?

>> No.11526090

>>11518062
careful with average since taking average for like a year isn't representative of the situation they had when quitting, often higher.

>> No.11526800

>>11524777
It's honestly hard to see just what could happen that takes away their hold in the EN market, those bastards have gone through a lot of stuff that would have sunked others and came out stronger everytime and have had some pretty huge strokes of luck during their history.

>> No.11526847

>>11524777
Being stagnant isnt a good move neither

>> No.11527165

>>11502420
imagine having the same viewers you had as an indie but now you have to give 1/3 of your income to a black company, I feel bad for wave 3

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>>11525543
>nijien is inclining
And other hilarious jokes you can tell yourself!

>> No.11527487

>>11524131
I believe the appropriate response here is seethe

>> No.11529436

>>11524695
Wouldn't be surprised at this point if that was the case desu....

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