/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>Man, I sure do fucking love nepotism! Why give opportunity to talented people if I can just gift it to people I or my employers personally know.

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>>11457182
Because finding actual talent takes more effort.

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I have yet to hear an actual argument against hiring your employee's friends. Most of the time it just sounds like jealous 2 views trying to rationalize why they didn't get in.

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>>11457209
This and people with a certain skill set usually hang around people that have similar if not outright the same talents as them. It really does make it a lot easier.

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>>11457182
>Yaggoshit thread was deleted because it's not a /vt/ thread
MODS = GODS
Delete this thread too, mods. Fuck Fagoo and his fags

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I mean some of the company’s most entertaining hires are because of nepotism so clearly they’re not doing a good job of finding “talent”

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>>11457182
this, but unironically

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>>11457182
This r***t meme fuckface looks like he rapes his own employees
>Inb4 he is married and has kids

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>>11457182
>The Jeffrey Epstein of VTube
Can't wait for this self-centered prick to get #MeToo'd

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>>11457280
Considering the Mel stalker issue, it's not unlikely.

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>japs being nepotistic
meanwhile, rrat is ogey, carry on fags

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>>11457182
Hey OP, I think you got the wrong board. >>>/tv/ is two blocks down

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>>11457182
You posted the wrong image

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>>11457465
Nijisanji staff is based for releasing this clip the day before Wave 3

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>>11457182
Why are you Fagoots so obsessed with this piece of shit? Why are you all so literal fags for him?

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>>11457465
Nijiniggers should really find better cope. It's embarassing when this backfires to them. Pic unrelated.

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>>11457182
>nepotism
Underage user alert

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>>11457244
>I have yet to hear an actual argument against hiring your employee's friends
It creates an unjust opportunity by giving specific people an advantage over others by arbitrary measures, you know, how nepotism usually works?

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>>11457244
>Arguments I dont like are not real argument
We got a real debater here.

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>>11457182
Yagoofags like you should be fucking rangebanned. Stop fucking advertising your non-VTuber bastard

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>>11457557
The potential benefits that come from it usually outweigh any sense of unfairness. Also I'm not gonna cry that some 2 view refused to network and therefore isn't experiencing the benefits from networking.

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>>11457182

If i had a company i would just hire who i please. Its my company. If people dont like it they can found thir own company.

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>>11457557
>Unjust
Seethe, commie. Networking is a skill

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>>11457182
vtubing is an entertaintment industry, if you want to be popular you have to start networking and meeting people

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people don't watch Hololive for "talent". they watch hololive for the dopamine boost from the so called parasocial relationship. If the the members have good relationship with other members, the stronger the dopamine boost.

X member knows Y = easy feel good interactions

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>>11457557
>unjust
lol. lmao. It's only a problem when you hire the CEO's nephew and he is literally unable to do the job. Job's will literally pay you to refer someone you know that gets hired. Hiring is risky, having an employee vouch for someone drastically lowers that.

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>>11457548
Half the thread is seething about this man. There's some genuine interest in him because he built the most successful Vtuber company out of nothing, but at this point people are just shitposting about him because it makes retards seethe.

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>>11457244
Thanks to their "scouting" model Hololive and Nijisanji have both missed out on
>Lumi
>Luto
>Shiki
>Yura
>Isla
>Hana
>Nene
>Tenma
And I'm sure there's a few others.

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Yagoo please hire me in your vtuber company, I just want to have a job managing the stupid incompetent mid-management, my role model is shinove being a good manager to stars

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>>11457778
>because he built the most successful Vtuber company out of nothing
In spite of his best efforts to kill it.

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>>11457182
>Hololive Gamers
I love nepotism too

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>>11457810
Yeah, he just got very lucky. Unlike you, who's held back by bad luck and would be a very successful person otherwise.

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>>11457778
Newfag he did nothing to get them popular they were coasting on Niji coattails till Miko said nigger

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>>11457788
>who?

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>>11457846
Coasting on Niji coattails is a good strategy though, and it paid off. Miko's nigger clip wouldn't have gone viral without at least some amount of previous exposure.

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>>11457788
Hime is going to embarrass NijiEN and HoloEN nepotism hires and it will be glorious.

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>>11457788
You cunts are so out of touch with reality, tell me the last time you had a 100% strike rate on anything faggot.

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>>11457924
Take your meds and relax before posting.

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>>11457788
Show me proof they applied for Niji and/or Holo

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>>11457182
I agree that Nepotism in most industries is cancer. But here is the shocker when it comes to individuals: Talented people know other talented people.
In these high networking industries it makes total sense.

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Nepotism can be advantageous to your business if you use your employee's skills and connections to get good people on board, see Hololive Gamers being hired through FBK. Anyone whining about it being "unfair" is a 15-year old commie or has the mindset of one. The world isn't fair, stop whining and start networking.

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Every single HR person will tell you that its easier and more efficient to hire through nepotism.

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>>11457465
nijisanji is like the pyramid scheme of vtubing

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>>11457972
>N-No they didn't apply!
Uh huh

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>"idpol are a group of scarily insane people that seethe at made up abstractions and at their base: believe that living is oppression"

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Through nepotism hololive hired the best branch they have and that's why gamers works so well

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>>11457778
He's not a VTuber you r****t fuck. Fuck off

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>>11457182
t. salty 2viewhore who got rejected

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>>11457976
HR are cancer low-educated idiots who shouldn't exist

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>>11458139
>r****t
what?

[Anonymous No.]

It's fun seeing this thread popping up every once in a while to reveal the socially handicapped anons incapable of networking.

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>>11457182
I didn't know /vt/ now allows shitty celebs. Can we talk about that shitty Netflix version of Cowboy Bebop?

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>>11458322
Just fuck off and take your Yagoo sucking somewhere else.

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>>11458358
You are probably from some backward asian country, but in the west it's considered very bad to hire people you know instead of talented people. That's why the word nepotism exists. It dooms entire organizations, even entire countries.

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>>11457788
It's a fucking crime Cover passed on Shiki.

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>>11458457
>in the west it's considered very bad to hire people you know instead of talented people
So that's why most corporations have a referral program.

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>>11458457
hello lifelong NEET

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>>11457557
>confirmed to never hold a job in his life
Lmao , employee referral is a thing anon

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>>11457788
Never even heard of these literal whos.

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Networking is fine but employing someone due to familial relation like you're the next dominic torreto is retarded.

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>>11457182
There's a difference between hiring someone purely because of connections, and discovering talents through connections. Networking is a skill in and of itself. Nepotism is abhorrent, of course, but I don't think you can make the case for either Holo or Niji.

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>>11457788
That is a good thing though. We need more good 2 views.

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>>11458816
Nijisanji often hires their friends. But in my opinion that's alright because the value comes in the friendship that makes the streams more fun. So there is value in the friendship here.

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>>11458013
You're not wrong...

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>>11458457
I'm not asian, whatever you tell yourself is the cause for you being a jobless neet is simply wrong.

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>>11457182
What I don't understand is that despite the nepotism, the council took too long to be released (7 months I think).

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>>11457788
>Hana
If this is the Hana I'm thinking of, good, let her stay "graduated" lol. Nijisanji is far less nepotism considering the JP and EN waves (can't speak for KR or ID) have people with 0 ties to each other, many of the relationships (literal and figurative) formed WITHIN the company afterwards. Btw, based on NDA none of them can admit they failed an audition, especially if they made it past the initial, so yeah show the proof these literal who's got chosen over for other literal indie whos.
>>11458230
This.

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>talented people
Oh you mean like Nina? Yeah, people love her don't they?

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>>11457788
Great list
>>11458500
I found Shiki recently from lurking here and she is more entertaining than most of council

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>>11457244
you are picking nepotism over merit, it's literally a terrible idea.
>my friend is good, hire her!
no, she isn't. or her resume would be at the top of a stack.

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>>11459579
If she’s so fucking talented, she doesn’t need a job from Cover to begin with.

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>>11459607
hiring friends is bad because they couldn't get hired without a recommendation. Who the fuck would hire Sana out of 10000 applicants for example.

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>>11458457
Yeah people may say that, but if you think for one second that the Western Entertainment industry is not filled with nepotism, then you are delusional

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>>11459635
>divert back to bitching about hiring friends
Listen, 2view, if you’re not being hired by companies, it’s because you’re not as talented as you think you are. Polka was already a self-made millionaire before she ever started working at Hololive.
If you were really as talented as Cover expects its unrecommended hires to be, you’d already have been wealthy enough to not care that much.

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>>11459635
Anyone who knows her roommate's art portfolio. She already did art for Cover as part of the job.

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>>11459783
im not an indie, im saying nepotism lowers the quality of hires you get. It has been bad for both Nijisanji AND Hololive. How else would you explain the new gens being so weak?

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>>11459121
I figure Niji has a laxer audition/hiring process due to how often they release new talents, but you do have a point: streaming with long-time friends can make for a fun watch.

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>Man, I sure do fucking love nepotism! Why give opportunity to talented people if I can just gift it to people I or my employers personally know.

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>>11459894
Tbh... Knowing how big Hololive was at the time, it makes sense to hire Fubuki's friends, also they are a success

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>>11459365
? that's normal though. JP Gen 4 finished their releasing schedule in January 2020 and Gen 5 was released in July the same year.

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>>11459796
A successful artist is hardly the whole criteria for being a vtuber. Did Sana, as an artist, have streams that demonstrated her ability to entertain for hours?
Not saying Sana is bad or good, just that "doing art for Cover" isn't enough to say she'd be a good tuber.

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>>11459894
This is unironically the best argument for what you consider to be nepotism.

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>>11459894
Okayu and mio are 2 view tier.

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>>11460279
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>>11460196
Pochi does better art and is infinitely more interesting than Sana. Doing art != being a good streamer.

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>>11460196
Ina didn’t have that, either, and you can’t claim Ina was a nepo hire with a straight face. It’s obvious that Cover doesn’t care about the same things you care about.
Japanese companies are also notorious for preferring to hire team players over raw talented individuals.

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>>11460339
Dont hate on the truth.

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>>11457976
>Every single HR rep would rather someone else do their job for them.
All you're telling us is that HR is a worthless department and everyone in it would be more useful digging ditches.

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>>11460415
HR is the most useless job that exists, it's filled with old cat ladies that ruin productivity.

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>>11458694
Mentioning a fictional character (from Fast and Furious of all things) as an example of nepotism bad shows off some pretty staunch retardation itself.
Try learning some real life examples next time, sweaty.

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>>11460849
Seethe. Real life is off topic.

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>>11460929
By that logic, so is mentioning live-action fictional characters like dominic torretto.
Shit man, nothing you say or do has any internal consistency, does it?

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>>11457182
Speaking of nepotism, are you fags so in love with this non-VTuber dickhead? Go to >>>/jp/ if you want to talk about JP manwhores like him.
>S0 WHY
Even Captcha doesn't understand this non-/vt/ bullshit

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>>11460970
>Attacking the person instead of the argument
I am done here. Pick fight with someone else.

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>>11459579
Memes aside I imagine the process goes something like
>You have two people to consider, applicant A and applicant B.
>For the most part content-wise they are similar since the majority of EN vtubers do the same thing (gaming, zatsudan, singing, drawing and maybe ASMR here or there.) Their skill in any of these areas will vary but unless you're specifically looking for a great singer or artist it won't matter.
>Additionally you'll have one able to speak numerous languages but depending on the language that might not even be useful. You can also take PL success into consideration but there's no telling if it'll carry over or not.
>Finally you have applicant B already having a friend on the inside while applicant A was a loner for the most part. Even if A has qualities you like the reality is that the bonds between these girls is a selling point of the company and sometimes it might be worth it to take a certain thing vs. gambling on A mingling well with others. If A is just an antisocial autist you can section her off by herself, but then she loses out on some benefits of being in your group.

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>>11461243
Pekora is #1 and is an antisocial autist, though.

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>>11457868
He's talking about streamers who are actually good, so it makes sense you have no idea

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>>11461277
Pekora can handle herself in collabs with her friends just fine. The whole PekoMoon arc showed that she has something resembling social skills.

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>>11461277
Was friends with Miko before Hololive. So technically a nepotism hire. Which once again paid off for Cover.

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>>11457182
Stop bumping you own thread, you fucking homo. Stop shilling your fucking manwhore

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People maybe don't get that Cover is hiring for holos. Not talented streamers, holos. You could be the most amazing performer in the world but it doesn't matter if you might leave the company in a year just because an objectively better opportunity for you comes along. If the vtuber bubble pops, will you still be there even if your viewers drop to a tenth of what they were, the SCs dry up and you need to pick up another job? Like any Japanese company, Cover wants people who are tied to the job by more than money, which is why so many of them come from shit backgrounds or have something askew. Having friends in the company just adds more to keeping them in there.
So no, if you could make it by yourself and you show signs of being too well-balanced if a person, you're not who they're looking for.

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>>11461243
>Or you ask in the last step
>Hey you know this person, can she be trusted to not burn my business down?

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>booohooo i want affirmative action in hololive
That's what some of you sound like. Here's how it works in the real world. When one of your hardest working employees suggests someone, you usually go with them. Keeps them happier and usually ends up being a good hire. When shitbag employee suggests someone you normally ignore it. When you have no suggestions, you go to the resume pile knowing 90% of what's on them is fluff and copied from someone else and you run a high risk of them being another shitbag unless you verify all their references and hope they aren't lying to get rid of a problem child.

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>>11461505
You can't bump your own threads

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>>11459635
> Who the fuck would hire Sana out of 10000 applicants
Eh, Type Moon and Aniplex did? She literally was hired to make art for FGO. Now, what about you?

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>>11461243
To be honest, sometimes nepotism hires ruins the group and I don't know why nobody spoke about this, inside the group there is always a couple of persons who don't like cronyism and have to see how someone entered on their group like this, also there is also the probability of someone being jealous about it because maybe someone wanted to hire another friend but couldn't (let's take for example if mori wanted milky queen to be with her but couldn't because Sana), nepotism is an easier tool to get people but it has the same risks or more than meritocracy

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>>11461604
Hololive hasnt had a good gen since gen 3. This is why hiring matters.

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>>11461625
Pochi is a better artist and streamer, being an artist doesn't make you entertaining.

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>>11458610
>employee referral
Employee referral would be an employee recommending someone from an already existing network that he knows it is good for the job, if the employee recomends their brother in law because he is looking for a job or something, then it is not employee referral anymore it is just nepotism

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>>11457182
Just make your own fucking company if you don’t like it, nigger.
And it’s not called nepotism, retard; the correct term is cronyism.

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>>11457731
Yes, networking would mean choosing a specific person that you know that is part of said network that you also know is skillful enough to do the job properly, giving a chance to a close friend or something independently of their skills is nepotism, and it is actually more unjust if you know someone that could do the job better but you recommend your friend anyways

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>>11461707
That's just like, your opinion, man.

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>>11457653
>The potential benefits that come from it usually outweigh any sense of unfairness
The potential benefits highly depend on the skill of the person that is being hire, which is extremely hit or miss, and it is really not a good idea to contract someone based on a 50/50 chance over potentially better candidates because one of your employees recommended them to you

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>>11461812
plenty of people can draw, that doesn't mean they are interesting people.

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>>11457182
HOLOLIVE BTFO
*hides the entirety of nijien

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>>11457772
>lol. lmao
i too enjoy laughing out loud laughing my ass off
>having an employee vouch for someone drastically lowers that.
That is true, but that is also not what nepotism is, an employee vouching for someone is not nepotism in itself, if they are vouching for that person because they have a personal connection with them rather than because of their skills however, that would be nepotism and it is of course a bad thing

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>>11461862
Ok? Has Sana even done a lot of drawing streams? People must like other things about her because they dont only watch her art streams.

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>>11457182
Wow anon! Welcome to the real world!! I'm so glad you could finally join the rest of us in figuring out that the corporate world isnt sunshine and rainbows, its actually a hellscape!

I'll see you in the breakroom for mandatory snacks and games!

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>>11457182
Cover would be nowhere without the talent they picked up. Clearly the nepotism is working.

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>>11461864
>>11457182
Why are you so gay for this fuccboi, OP?

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>>11461955
branding is branding, Apple make overpriced shit computers but they have a cult of fans, same with Cover. There hasn't been a good Hololive acquisition since gen 3, where they got Pekora/Marine.

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>>11461638
>Hololive hasn't had a good gen since the gens that were near-100% nepotism emerging from FBK's circles because they understandably couldn't get sizable NND streamers to join a no-name corpo sucking off their income

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>>11457182
>Fagoo good
>Holostars bad
Why are you "purity" holofags like this?

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>>11457182
Man I sure do fucking love nepotism!

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>>11459894
I Feel like in this case it is different because they weren't mainstream yet and therefore did not held auditions or something, they were hire simply because at the time there were not that many options to begin with, or at least not for them

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>>11461981
You are actually seething and coping if you think the last good acquisition was gen 3 lmao

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>>11461981
The fabled nijicope

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>>11462060
I'm talking talent anon, the next best after Pekora is Coco for an EN/JP streamer but Yagoo fucked that up.

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>>11462006
hang yourself nijibrony

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>>11462086
Why do you always blame Nijisanji for Yagoo being an idiot? Pretend they don't exist. Where is the next Usada Pekora? It has been 4 gens. (4, 5, EN1, EN2, none come close).

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>>11457182
You got the wrong picture, OP

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>>11462012
Mocca and Elira’s friend for wave 4

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>>11457182
>This fucking self-insert fagoot and his gay homo fags again
This is why Niji is so much better. None of that non-VT CEO shitposting that Holoshit has

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>>11462140
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>>11462147
>>11457182
>>11462101
>>11461864
Fucking neck yourself homo

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>>11462165
Am I wrong? Ignore Nijisanji, ignore vshojo, evaluate hololive talent by itself. There is a gaping void between Pekora/Marine and the next best options.

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>>11462187
You first fag

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>>11458457
Any bad hiring process dooms corporations. The key is recruiting capable people that your employees know.

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>>11462200
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>>11462165
Well, anon you been baited hard by him lol

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>>11462140
Unironically Ollie

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>>11458500
>>11459479
Link me to this Shiki

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>>11462213
You're being a fag simp for someone who's a VTuber. Take your fucking mancrush out of this board, you absolute faglord

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>>11458457
Yes, Korone and Okayu prove nepotism is bad per se. Retard

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>>11462213
At least Yagoo try to be humble about his fame. This faggot is just plain narcissistic

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>>11457182
This guy sounds like a total narcissistic prick. Making his girls shill him in many of their streams. He even got the whole HoloCouncil shill him in their collabs. This guy definitely has fucked at least one of them

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>>11462352
At least he didn't drive out the top youtube earner because of some chinamen. Imagine throwing away your TOP EARNER ON YOUTUBE over nothing.

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>>11462381
Sora.

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>>11462352
>At least Fagoo try to be humble about his fame.
See >>11462381

[Anonymous No.]

>MY CEO IS BETTER THAN YOUR CEO
/vt/....

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>>11462472
>making

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>>11457182
>A /vt/ thread died for this non-/vt/ thread
Mods where the fuck are you? Delete this one

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>>11462492
>implying he didn't

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>>11462240
He's just flabbergasted at the absolute stupidity of using the one person who had to completely reinvent the character they were hired for to not flop hard as an implied example of "good hiring".

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>>11462352
At least Niji streamers and fans never mention their CEO's name and make a big deal out of him. Unlike Holoshitters

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>>11457182
Best of luck on your next audition seething 2view

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>>11457182
>/vt/ - E-Thots, Celebrities, and CEO Shitheads

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>>11462213
This guy strangely has a very punchable face

[Anonymous No.]

Are we really having a CEO Vs CEO right now? The fuck is happening here

[Anonymous No.]

2views mad lmao
Just git good

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>>11462648
So does Fagoo and any homos who shill either or both men. Stop shilling your CEO fuccbois

[Anonymous No.]

Ban all CEOfags

[Anonymous No.]

Peope that shill Yagoo are the same people that self insert into Producer in Idomaster.

[Anonymous No.]

Connections are a skill and talent on its own. If you know a guy who can produce music for your original songs or you know an artist to make you props, that's a skill that will help you in the long run. It's only natural that this means people hire others they know can be trusted to turn a profit and draw in audiences.

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>>11462769
That's the point. No wonder Holoshit is so cancerous

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>>11462488

Tanigo is like a dad who buys you expensive geishas.
Nijinigger guy is like an annoying hipster trying get you to suck his buttbuddies dick in a toilet stall.

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>>11462381
What, when did this happen?

[Anonymous No.]

Before complaining about the big corps maybe these 'talented indies' should first try Tsunderia, Prism, Phase Connect...all these companies which surely would drop any signs of nepotism in a heartbeat if they could get "actual talent", right?
But of course noooo, you're too good for all of them. Instead let's all laugh at this company that is destroying itself from the inside with nepotism and will lose millions of dollars and tens of thousands of viewers and would you please hire me please please please

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What the fuck is even this thread? Why are people pretending that Hololive had any kind of influence back in 18/19. Only gamers are nepotism hire, the rest of the girls picked up from streets and NND. Why are people pretending that YAGOO has any kind of power unlike Riku who's literally nephew of one of the most richest people in Japan. Retarded shit, all of it.

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>>11463338
2 views seething

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>>11463205
>>11463338
Paid posts.

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>>11457182
If they are so fucking talented why couldn't they just get some connections with their talent. Fucking retards. Nepotism>talent

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>>11463399
They think that's the only reason they didn't get in is because two people in EN might have known or worked together before Hololive. But I guess it's easier to blame nepotism than yourself.

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>>11463338
Probably some 2view seething, and the nijis saw the opportunity to shit on holos

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>>11463338
It's a sign of how overbeaing Hololive is in the vtubing mindspace that 2views are blinded to the fact that the company has only been in the black for two years or less. It was bleeding money the whole way until months after gen 3. They think it's some sort of eternal juggernaut which has been jealously gatekeeping riches from the deserving while unknowingly protesting on the ashes of updat8. For god's sake, Polka was considered a huge, unprecedentedly good hire just because she had 100k subs before.

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>>11463185
In his mind, anon

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>>11463638
>unprecedentedly good hire
Not really. Noel is and will forever be the biggest YAGOO's catch.

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>>11463725
I think Polka is bigger
Too bad about the distribution though

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>>11457182
Yes, that's how the real world works. It's less about what you know and more about WHO you know.

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>>11462537
The girls were not even the ones that started praising him, they only started doing it after stuff like Coco's meme review made it abundantly clear that he had become a Meme on the western side of the fanbase, fucking jap fans don't give a fuck about YAGOO, or at least not as a meme

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>>11463981
Anon, Noel is literally NND queen. She probably makes more money than the whole Sankisei together.

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>>11464197
There's no doubt Noel was raking in money on her own (probably more than Hololive even now). But there was no guarantee at the time that her ASMR would carry over that well without the camera stuff, especially with Youtube beginning to crack down on it and killing Choco's monetization. Polka on the other hand was a straight shot.

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>>11458113
>gamers
Interesting way to misspell sankisei

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>>11461770
>brother in law
Which chuubas are related in such a way?

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>>11462147
Every time nijikeks share a picture of their CEO i understand the japanese birthrate a little bit more.

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>kronii's fanbase are mommyfags
>fauna's fanbase are also mommyfags but who don't want a mommy that sounds like Daria
>mumei's fans are insufferable uwu wut a kyute girl fags
>baelz would easily have the cunnyfags if she didn't openly declare her desire to capture Roberu and keep him in her basement
>Sana probably the only one not specifically muhdick
>Gura probably blew up because of cunny

Everything is fetish based there's no such thing as 'being talented' as a streamer except 1) playing games 2) being socially aware enough you have to talk to your audience instead of sitting in silence (and this works for certain vtubers anyway).

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>>11463338

This. This is also why i will never feel bad for being a holo fan. My company was literal who with no power or money who fought themselves into the position they are now with skill, quality, passion and luck. Nijisanji may have introduced me to vtuber streaming but hololive and my fox friend made me stick with it. The company went through political turmoil, copyright hell and regular drama and still stands like the monolith all the girls erected for us.

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>>11466024
>just drop your girls because they're corporate drones, even though you spent the better part of last year through thick and thin, and watch my 2view vtuber and some newly debut niji girl you never heard before because they deserve more views
>fuck connections
These niggers don't understand us.

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>>11457182
Connections are at least earned. Talent is just pure luck.

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>>11464140
He's still a prick though
>the western side of the fanbase
Not surprising given how woke shit made them gay

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>holobronies try to smear other vtubers with nepotism accusations
>Sora existed from the very beginning

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When you're at the top avoiding yabs is better than taking risks. That said none of the en2 girls are actually bad at their job some just need a little more polish.

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>>11457244
Laziness begets laziness. Those who stumble on treasure and don't actively search for more often wind up exhausting what little they have and settling for nothing. As a point of fact, I've completely stopped watching hololive due to the minecra ark and glut of same, uninspired chubas.

Entertainment is about new toys and innovation. Nepotism is about sameness. The two are obviously contradictory, as competing for market share that you already have or which is highly contested usually leads to diminishing, non-existant and then negative returns.

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>>11471987
Fancy words won't hide your seethe.

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>>11462258
https://www.youtube.com/c/ShikiMiyoshino

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>>11464340
3rd gen also had at least two, Pekora & Rushia, be what this board would count as "nepotism" though (connections to Miko and Mel respectively)

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>>11457788
There's a lot more than that anon.

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>>11457182
>The nepotism hires of Holo JP are some of the highest earners in the company
OP is just assblasted because he doesn't have connections. Nepotism works.

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>>11461770
That's exactly what's happening in HoloLive retard, they know their friends are good so they recommend them. And they are right, 2 top JP holos are recommended by their friends. Goddamnit anon.

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>>11458113
>the best branch they have
But that's Gen 5 and as far as I know they were all complete strangers.

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>>11457788
Oh no..
Anyway

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>>11457182
>Nepotism is....LE BAD

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>>11462769
Damn right. Self-insert shit is what makes a series so cancerous. Fuck the likes of Idolmaster and Uma Musume and Hololive. Self-insert/Yagoo fags should go outside and get a fucking girlfriend

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Nepotism is really only nepotism if the person hired is bad at their job. Otherwise it's successful networking.

My company that deals with manufacturing important production/supply chain materials does this shit often and gives financial bonuses to people who make successful referrals to employees who pass a 90 day probation period thing.

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>>11473077
Correct, but this isn't what Cover does. They hired Sana and Kronii because "Ina wanted them to join I guess". Of course if you're already known for your *talents* there should be no reason to go through the interview process.

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>>11473274
Oh wow, are you an unironic "all koreans know each other"-fag too?

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>>11457182
Hololive and Niji are one thing but why do small corpos do it?

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>>11473274
I know Sana is doing as great numberwise but they're both pretty damn successful all things considered if you compare them to other vtubers, indie or not.

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>>11473330
You've never met any East Asian diaspora. They do, especially since both Ina and Kronii are Canadian.

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>>11457788

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>>11473373
Who cares? Normalfags will eat up anything Cover shits on their plate. Do YOU like them?

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>>11473274
so every locals on nijijp is nepotism hire, my oh my

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>>11459423
>based on NDA
Keep making shit up

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>>11457280
He only fucks the stars

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>>11457182
Looking at NijiEN3 made me appreciate nepotism hires more

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>>11457903
>Hime is going to embarrass NijiEN and HoloEN nepotism hires and it will be glorious.
????

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>>11473400
They're fine so far, but it hasn't really been three months. Sana is a ray of sunshine and her art is very good. Kronii has had pretty gold moments on MC. Not my favorites but worth checking out imo.

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>>11473438
Millie and Enna are in Elira’s friend circle.

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>>11457182
>Man, I sure love shilling my beloved meme non-VTube mancrush. Thank you r***it
Fuck off homo

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>>11473543
Exactly why I made that post. Especially when you compare those 2 to the 4th one.

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>>11472189
Oh yeah, obviously, that's what I'm saying. Both gamers and sankisei had nepotism hires, but sankisei is objectively better at this time, with gamers not being that far behind however.

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>>11457244
Nijisanji EN wave 3 is a prime example. 2/4 of them were friends with Pomu and Elira in their PL and are continually sucking them off while they ignore their genmates and the other members, making no effort to befriend them or make new connections in the company.

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>>11473077
Anon this board is mostly neets or underaged,do you think they'd know anything about a workplace environment?

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>>11457788
You have to be a diferent type of retard if you are willingly believing the rrats of this cess poll anon.
>>11464280
This. Her plans say a lot about that, as she does'nt want to stop streaming as a chuuba. Guess she's just that happy kek.
>>11473274
>>11473376
Take your meds. You don't even have any proof for that, It's like saying that every nip in Japan know each other. >>11462807 has a good point yet you will ignore it just like everything else.

Keep seething.

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>>11473869
>It's like saying that every nip in Japan know each other
I said diaspora. If you visit a college campus in the west there's a very high chance all nips there know each other, and don't interact with anyone else.

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>itt: unsuccessful 2views showcase ewhy they are unsuccesful
>feat. eternal NEETs with no job experience

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>>11474007
>college campus
>entirety of Canada
Yeah same thing

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Fubuki's nepotism got us Okayu and Korone. I think that's a pretty good deal.

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>>11457244
Designs are premade and the nepotism hires. There is no reason for a new gen to take a year to debut?
Nepotism hires will never diminish dead hours. Most nepotism hires are girls that stream at the same time. There's only one EU out of Myth, Council, Lazulight, Obsidiya, Erythia, add in all the EN startup companies.

Most nepotisms hires for the 'EN' branches, you end up girls that sound very similar. They' re from the or who are from the same region. With all the accents there are in English speaking world almost all the girls end up sounding the same.

Most friends share similar interests. You're less likely to get someone with wildly different hobbies. You're getting very same-y people.

You lose any surprise or newness factor of each new gen. With nepotism hires you have a fair idea who will be hired or what type of person ha will be hired for the next gen.

Hopefully that made sense. Forgive my ESL.

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>>11474158
Yes.

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>>11473706
>and are continually sucking them off while they ignore their genmates and the other members
if by ignoring, you mean ignoring N*na, then based

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>>11473580
>>11462632
>>11462381
>>11462151
>>11462006
>>11461974
>>11461505
>>11461113
>>11458409
>>11457636
>>11457548
>>11457361
>>11457309
>>11457280
>>11457255
God damn this guy is really seething huh

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>>11474235
I'm willing to believe that Coco's graduation delayed Council's debut by a fair bit. It would have probably been seen to be in poor taste to launch a new gen so soon after such an emotional event for the viewers and the talents

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>>11462187
>>11462266
>>11473580
>>11462632
>>11462381
>>11462151
>>11462006
>>11461974
>>11461505
>>11461113
>>11458409
>>11457636
>>11457548
>>11457361
>>11457309
>>11457280
>>11457255
Does this make you angry?

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>>11459635
>Who the fuck would hire Sana out of 10000 applicants for example.
me

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>>11474454
>>11474563
>Does this make you angry?
Yes.

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>>11457788
Nene Amano is the best VTuber I've ever watched

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>>11474466
It delayed IRyS. Council would have probably debit at the same time, it was mentioned that one of the Council girls didn’t have a finished rig during pre-debut.

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>>11457182
>No chinks
>No thirdworlders outside of ID
>No pro BLM SJW whores

I think is working pretty well for Hololive, cant say the same about Niji tho.

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>>11475148
>No chinks
>No pro BLM SJW whores
Anon, I...

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>>11475209
You know what he means.

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>>11474859
Hi Nene, I loved your Godzilla cover

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This thread is full of 2 view trannies and nijiniggers

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>>11475285
>The /vt/ Experience

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>>11475285
And also one guy who really seethes at yagoo for some reason

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>>11475258
Thanks! Now I need to go back to commissioning art of my character.

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Nepotism is a valid way to run your business when compatibility between employees is such a vital part of your business.
Random people who might impress you in a relatively short vetting process are more risky to hire than someone who has been a friend of someone you trust.

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>>11457182
I wonder how many people in this thread have actually worked in any senior or management position in big organization for more than a day or two, since many of you guys don't seem to be capable of telling nepotism and networking apart

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>>11475385
The term itself is already so misused in this thread. Nepotism has to include deliberate preference of someone for personal reasons that don't ultimately benefit the company, over a better fit. Key phrase is "better fit". Not "better talent".
People try to slip some magical hypothetical 2view past debate because they know there's no non-subjective factor in it. "Uhh she zatsudans/sings/games/GFEs better..." Maybe the scouts saw the same portfolio and simply disagreed. Maybe the applicant can't convince the scouts that they'll stay on in the role for years to come even if a better offer makes itself known. Or maybe sometimes the personality and voice just doesn't fit the intended character and that's all there is to it.

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Nepotism is not a merit problem, it not a talent problem, it's a sameness issue. Why watch one vtuber over another when they're very much the same? Vtubing is very competitive and oversaturated, now is not the time for overlaps..

That's not to say they cant bypass the sameness issue with Nepotism hires, but recruiters would have to be very conscious about it, which may result in them or their talents having to do more work, perhaps, as much work as a merit hire.

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Hololive made me a fan forever after siding with coco and blowing Chinese antis the fuck out.
The massive balls it takes to cut yourself off from the Chinese market for one of your big talents earned my respect forever.

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>>11457182
They might personally know that they're talented.

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The state of this thread and the corpo dogs

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>>11457182
>n-nepotism!

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>>11472302
I agree but
>reddit meme
Yes I do know they appropriated it, but still
Go back.

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Why are 2view fags always so delusional?
>noo bro you don't understand the literally who i found is better than everyone!!

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>>11478971
She is though

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>>11478971
Why would your family member be better than a experienced streamer or literally anyone else

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>>11477288

n-nepotism!

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Nepotism is a symptom of the plague that is capitalism.

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>>11475148
All of those are wrong. Explaining why is against rules though.

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>>11481478
Shouldn't be hard to find though. https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/

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>>11479078
>family member
Who in this thread arguing for "nepotism"(networking), and regarding Cover specifically, has defended getting family members in the company over normal applicants, if said family members don't possess the minimum requirements for the job? To begin with, again just regarding Cover, is any talent a family member of another talent/employee?
>Inb4 Sora
a) rrat
b) Do you also accuse family businesses of nepotism?