What is the consensus on this one?

[Anonymous No.]

Don't feel like I've ever seen her mentioned here.

[Anonymous No.]

She shit on pedophiles, /vt/ wants her dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>10908457
mommy

based
moth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10908457
I love moths. They're so cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10908477
as it should be

if you think lolicon is literally pedophilia you have brain damage

[Anonymous No.]

>>10908797
Pedos are bad. You're sick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10908457
Great model. Shit voice

[Anonymous No.]

>>10908457
nice but tried to cancel cunny fans then backpedaled and said "back then i didnt have a big audience so now i keep my mouth shut about my opinion please disregard :)"

[Anonymous No.]

>>10908457
furryshit

[Anonymous No.]

Drama aside, she's boring.

[Anonymous No.]

The "consensus" is think for yourself faggot, I think she's a piece of shit personally and that she can't be trusted

[Anonymous No.]

>>10908457
bug girls eroi
uooh

[Anonymous No.]

>>10909299
l“pls forgive my having an opinion about something, I still think you’re trash but I need the viewers”
Spineless lol

[Anonymous No.]

Shit ripoff of a nice design. Everyone praising her model has zero taste. It’s not even the first “monster mode” vtuber.
The fact that’s she’s an hypocrite uncreative bitch is clear as the sun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10908457
Her models great and she got plenty of skills, but watching her is mostly just dull.
Mori and Kronii feel sort of similar, but they are more interesting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10908457
Imagine giving a fuck about consensuses.

>>10909217
Not furryshit enough, cannot fap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10909146
>>10909299
>>10909605
I was always neutral on this but the fact that gets posted every thread about her kinda proves her point, lolifags are fucking obnoxious and hold grudges and preform which hunts on anyone that doesn't like their shitty fetish, even if you apologize they'll spit in your face and call you hypocrite, I couldn't image footfags or cowtitfags doing something similar
Bunch of mentally ill degenerates

[Anonymous No.]

>>10910133
seethe more and go back, juniper

[Anonymous No.]

>>10910133
you call that an apology?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10909605
That's just how it works when your audience is comprised of unhinged, sexual deviants. You either hold your opinion of them back or you lose out on a lot of money. I can respect her decision.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10908457
If you need a consensus to enjoy something I think you should go back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10910133
Maybe because you're an absolute dumbass, I would hate to defend pedos but they get uppity because something was offered to them and then abruptly taken away, most sane humans act this way. Yes cowtitfags and footfags do act that way too, the most recent I cant think of for tits were people flipping the fuck out about the Tifa nerf in FFVII remake, and more on topic to this thread people flipped the fuck out once Azulin was forced to have boots in her new model

[Anonymous No.]

>>10910259
Don't you have a child-size sex doll to go fuck?
>>10907671
Werido

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>>10910133
Yeah, because you faggots are fine with being insulted, but at least don’t be a fucking spineless bitch and shut up.
No, she wanted to peek in as the narcissist she is and give her useless tweet just to hold on cucks- sorry, views.
I don’t need approval from a dumb cunt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10908457
she hates lolicon and frequently express her despise for cunny. So there's a huge chance she's an actual pedophile. Other than that she has a nice design but I don't care about her

[Anonymous No.]

>>10908457
Got turned off pretty quickly. Could never stop her political tangents when she first came out. Haven't watched her since the first week, maybe she finally shut her cum receptacle but fuck was that shit annoying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10910133
>weirdly omitting that she stole her model from other creators she actively insults

[Anonymous No.]

>>10910749
That's incredibly based.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10908457
great model, great personality, her technical streams are basically vtubers' wikipedia
literally no downsides

[Anonymous No.]

>>10910825
Ok, Juni. Just calm down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10908477
based

[Anonymous No.]

>>10910639
>Yeah, because you faggots are fine with being insulted,
Kek you jerk off to cartoon children mate, there's no getting around it most sane people are going to be disgusted with you even if you try the "B-b-but it's just a drawing!" cope
You're in the same tier as scatfags and gurofags and beastaliyfags but at least they're self-aware enough to know their fetishes will naturally disgust people instead of having a victim complex like you fags do

[Anonymous No.]

>>10911464
go back to twitter Juniper

[Anonymous No.]

>>10911533
twitter is full of lolipedos though

[Anonymous No.]

God I hate lolicons.
Not because your pedos/"muh children"/etc.
But because your fetish is shit and I'm tired of seeing it.
Cowtits for life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10911464
I assure you, we’d like to be left alone with our drawings as I leave scatfags alone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10910749
i remember her saying she's friend with the author of said doujin, i don't have a clip but i'm pretty sure you could find something

[Anonymous No.]

>>10908457
Before I disliked her quite a bit.
I'm not a lolicon nor do I care if people hate lolis. I do enjoy Nyanners afterall.
But the fact that she is based on an hentai with shotacon in it, was a little too shameless for me.
But I've now come to realise there is many vtubers who very clearly likes loli/shotacon but hates people who are at the same time.
She at lest address it, pointing out she wouldn't talk about it anymore, which is better the others. I still don't watch her, but I don't dislike her anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10908457
nice thread faggots

[Anonymous No.]

>>10910133
>I couldn't image footfags or cowtitfags doing something similar
Actually delusional.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10908457
She makes pedos and lolicons seethe, thats based as shit. The only thing that would make her more based is if she never apologized for taking advantage of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10911625
first ever Japanese made erotic anime released in 1984 which could be described as "hentai" was literally called "Lolita" and was catered to lolicons. Fun fact. Anime fans and lolicons go hand in hand since emergence of anime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10912712
Is Chibi a midget irl?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10912712
I believe the sequel had lolicon in it as well
Can't be surprised an irony weeb is a total hypocrite tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913111
To be fair the chibi tweet was made when she was using her old model.
Maybe the official height different now, cause yeah now she's fucking tiny no way 5'5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10912712
>I'm not a loli
>Has a backpack only ever used by Japanese elementary schoolers
ogey

[Anonymous No.]

>>10912712
Chibi here sounds more like defensive of her style to prevent anti lolicons from calling her a pedo enabler or some retarded shit like that. She probably knows very well what her character looks like but says this BS to deter others from calling her a lolicon enabler. Basically a small tweet to avoid future trouble.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10916203
if you ever watched her streams you would know she hates lolicons and being called a loli

[Anonymous No.]

at first, I really like the concept
she is the only v-tuber doing something interesting with the advantages of being a v-tuber
but besides the models, she didn't progressed much
and her stream is boring

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913106
>muh first hentai anime
Tentacle porn precedes Lolita hentai by centuries faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>10908797
>masturbate to depiction of child
>claim not to be a pedophile
I know pedos are inherently brain-damaged but claiming not to be one while having folders full of toddler pics makes me chuckle every time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10910642
>she hates lolicon and frequently express her despise for cunny. So there's a huge chance she's an actual pedophile.
This 1000%. Almost all bug names that critize loli hentai or loli art in Twitter end up being exposed as pedos irl. It's almost as if they can't stop projecting their sick emotions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10916634
I was talking about animated anime you retard, not some painting. unless you think that Edo period artists count as anime otaku

[Anonymous No.]

>>10916792
if you kill people in a video game you aren't a mass killing psychopath, you moron

[Anonymous No.]

Lolicons should be publicly executed, not because loli is wrong, but because they're annoying as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>10917947
Eh, most lolicons I've come across keep it to themselves for the most part (I believe this is the majority). Then you have the smaller % that never stfu about it and or are creepy asf weirdos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10917031
Dude you're supposed to argue "lolis aren't children because their body shapes are different, look at their elbows" or some shit, not "I'm so brain-damaged by my child-lust that I don't know the difference between a child rapist and a pedophile anymore"

[Anonymous No.]

>>10911464
>mate
Of course anon is a euro. Fuck off and leave us lolifags alone, retards like you barge into our communities and then get offended when you see loli and shota erotica.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10918326
If you kill people in a video game that doesn't mean you're a wannabe serial killer either. Stop blaming media for everything and start addressing actual problems instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10918164
You're in a hobby full of lolicons, shotacons and Kodocons. Learn to deal with it or leave this is how otaku culture is stop shitting on my plate and then getting upset when I tell you to fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10918653
you're gonna eat my shit and you're gonna like it

[Anonymous No.]

>>10918653
This>>10918898

[Anonymous No.]

>>10917031
Thank you for that typically used non sequitur to emphasize the difference of whimsically playing with ragdolls in GTA because you're bored, and the situational difference of associating the fucking of children to sexual pleasure when you pinch at your pedo chode. The differences with the two acts activate different parts of your brain.

Why is your lot always so defensive when you get called nonces anyways? You're hiding behind a japanese terms like lolicon that makes you think it isnt the same as pedophilia but its a different word for the same meaning within the context of porn. The sexual depiction of children. Piss and cope all you want, but you can't change definitions because your lifetime of habits want it to be so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10912778
Is this the designated cunny thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10918898
>>10919316
Then you faggots should kill yourselves. Your ever need to enforce your moral desires on others is the most disgusting form of normalfaggotry. Go back to twitter where you can make others behave the way you want them to.

[Anonymous No.]

If you see anyone on 4chan specifically mention that they don't like loli they're a normalfaggot that can be safely ignored. Especially on any board that has to do with otaku culture like this one. Don't engage with them. I don't watch the moth girl because she's on Twitch and that's it really I don't care what dumb shit she's said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10919958
Stfu schizo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10919323
>sexual depiction of children
Are they IRL children? Your normalfaggotry blinds your morality

[Anonymous No.]

>>10908457
Talented
Creative
Funny
I like roastie voice so I like hers
Good chuuba, I'm just not on Twitch much

[Anonymous No.]

You are all pedophiles for jacking it to drawings. 'Nuff said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10920364
Does it specify irl children? No, it doesn't. Your deranged brain blinds your morality and ties a legal crime with the actual definition because you don't want to equivocate your fetish with those that committed the legal act. Now try and bring the "cartoonish disproportions" cope with shit like >>10912778 in your camp. Nonce.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10916792
>>>/reddit/

[Anonymous No.]

>>10920742
No harm no foul. There's no crime unless you touch a real kid which no one in this thread wants to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10908457
>publicly condemns people who share the distaff counterpart to her own fetish like a raging hypocrite
>apology is literally "I'm sorry I got caught"
She's Nyanners/Chibi tier. They want to pedopander but don't have THIS ABSOLUTE FUCKING GIGACHAD's courage when it comes to speaking out against the prevailing cultural narrative.

Gura only gets away with it because she panders hard and has only ever micro-aggressed with a single ambiguous off-color tweet. That's the subtle and tactful way to normalize talking about cute and funny as acceptable social discourse, not groveling before normalfags and shouting PEDO HATE at every opportunity. That's not helping anyone, especially if your goal is to profiteer from a niche that's united by relative non-judgmentalism towards unfettered fetishism.

An attack on one fetish is an attack on all fetishes, except for NTR but only because cucks themselves are insufferable. Lolicons normally don't go around shouting "TALK LIKE A LITTLE GIRL" the same way cucks whine "STEP ON ME MOMMY," and there's always been a line where fetishes only get shit on the moment their afficianados become so overtly and retarded degenerate that their insane and completely unauppressed power levels become a nuisance to those around them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10920742
Of course you're a fucking britbong. Retarded island pig, any court in the world would laugh their collective asses if you brought drawings as evidence.
You are being colonized btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>10908457

Nice model wasted on a generic basic bitch e-girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10921012
Thats not the argument. Once again you're retreating to legal definitions instead of realizing like the furries and bronies before you that your sexual fetish is insufferable to those that are forced to be around you because it's disgusting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10921447
Whoops, I atually forgot the first paragraph and replaced the pic. It's supposed to be Kenmochi Touya, the moralfag destroyer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10920742
What crime happened which isn't irl? Do you even know the legal definition of the crime you're referring to?

[Anonymous No.]

Complains about loli while ripping off her character design from a manga with oneshota rape.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10921691
Its not a solely legal term. Why do nonces like you and >>10921012 >>10921553 retreat behind the dresses of men in wigs when your sick fetish is insulted?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10921778
for normalfaggots, oneshota isn't icky unlike lolicon
pls andastnd

[Anonymous No.]

>>10921553
>any court in the world would laugh their collective asses if you brought drawings as evidence
brit courts wouldn't lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>10921918
>legal crime with the actual definition
Backpedalling aren't we?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913135
Incestual loli with his daughter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10922082
Well yeah that's the only place in the world where they arrested a dude for sharing memes so I believe it. Thankfully I don't live in that shithole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10921918
>"Oi mate yew are goin' ta jail ya nonce"
>Not really
>"WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH WHY DO YOU HIDE BEHIND MEN IN WIGS WHEN YOU'RE BEING INSULTED"
You are a living, breathing joke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10921918
Kindly stop insulting 3 million sub queen of Vtubers.

>>10921942
https://youtube.com/watch?v=iQcDfxV_cHE

Normalfags are the champions of moral consistency. Everything that doesn't offend their sensibilities is moral, and everything that does isn't. Ethics? Pfft. Double standards, rampant hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance are the foundations of civil society. It's not like flagrantly treating people better because of their economic or demographic class would ever backfire in any way whatsoever, or lead to people coming into power who shouldn't. Nornalfaggotry is the most unassailably constructive mindset known to man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10922110
No? Multiple times I've stated the need for pedos to defend their thoughts by hiding behind a legal act and you're all doing a great job as examples to prove it. Like this retard, >>10922576 I have never once said the drawings are illegal yet the coping mechanism always defaults to the crime instead of the actual definition. Namely, the attraction to children. That's it. You fit that description if you fap to loli, get the legal shit out of your twisted head and understand that my argument isn't related to any law within any designated Rothschild tax zone throughout the world but the simple definition of the word itself. You fit it if you seek loli within the sexual context making you, by definition, a pedo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10922576
Always makes me chuckle when a CANZKEK goes on about lolicon. Reminds me of that garupan character designer interview.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10923163
Pedophilia is a clinically diagnosed mental disorder. No psychologist would diagnose you with pedophilia if you were only attracted to 2D loli/shota

[Anonymous No.]

>>10921918
/v/ermin screaming about trannies unprovoked

Sounds about right

[Anonymous No.]

>>10923451
>make joke about judges
>think it was a tranny joke and mention /v/ for some reason
Rent free?

[Anonymous No.]

If your believe that lolicon = pedophilia, then you also belive that playing video games incites violence.

[Anonymous No.]

>Imagine not being a lolicon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10923950
But anon, that's conflating "that" fiction with reality which has long been proven to be false. We're talking about conflating "this" fiction with reality, which is undeniably true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10923339
Says who? Science changes by the decade as "new" things are "discovered" and modern psychologists diagnose the mental ailments of their checkbook's needs. By the definitions of repeated urges to see children in a sexual way it fits the typical lolicon.

>>10923950
The two are done in different contexts and different parts of your brain are activated at the time the acts are happening, unless you actually get a sexual thrill from the act of death and killing in front of you. Which means that you have two problems instead of just the one. You're wrong, have been proven to be wrong through psychological studies, and is a non sequitur.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10924263
The parts of the brain activated and the biological response might be different, but the act is, essentially, the same. Killing someone in a video game does not mean you want to kill someone in real life, and it's harmless because you have only killed pixels. In the same vein, fapping to lolicon does not mean you want to fuck a real child, and is also entirely harmless since it's only a drawing. If you believe that fapping to loli might lead to a slippery slope that makes you rape a child, then surely you must also belive that a video game's structure that rewards you positively for killing people will also lead you to commit murder in real life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10924263
>Says who? Science changes...
>proceeds to defend his point using science
Your hypocritical streak is leaking. Gotta improve your counterpoints here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10908457
she has the same anti loli debuff as nyanners but unlike nyanners, she's not entertaining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10924263
Your argument has no bearing due to the fact that there has not been one conclusive study that links pedophilic activities and lolicon. Hell, even just violent pornography (rape, abuse, etc.) and sexual assault in general.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10924802
jacking off to lolicon is a pedophilic activity

[Anonymous No.]

People who dislike loli hate america.

[Anonymous No.]

The term lolicon was used to refer to anime fans in japan before the term otaku was
If you like any weeb shit, you're lolicon adjacent, and any claims otherwise is a cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>10925073
wtf i hate loli now

[Anonymous No.]

>>10925073
I like loli and hate Amerikkka, though.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>10925073
Both are based

[Anonymous No.]

>>10919323
>Thank you for that typically used non sequitur to emphasize the difference of whimsically playing with ragdolls in GTA because you're bored, and the situational difference of associating the fucking of children to sexual pleasure when you pinch at your pedo chode. The differences with the two acts activate different parts of your brain.
t. has never study any neurology or how the brain works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10925247
GAAAY!
Now try that with PEEDO!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10925247
It really is astounding the levels of deflection, denial, and cope that pedos use to dodge this simple logic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10916792
>>10923163
lolicon anons forget being a pedo doesnt make them child rapists, lolicons are pedos but not all pedos are child rapists.
ironically theyre so caught up trying to morally justify themselves being lolicons that it just proves how wrong they are, if the morals of it were okay they wouldnt need to always start shit when people call them out for what they are.
they fall back on law because thats the only way they think they can morally argue its okay, even though theres plenty of laws that most people dont agree with morally.
>>10922672
you arent much better anon, just look your own argument, labeling people normalfags just because theyre not comfortable with fictional children having sex.
i personally dont care, if the arts hot then the meat gets beat but im not obsessed with lolis and i sure as hell hate lolicons who dont just shut up and accept they dont have to morally justify every single thing theyre into.
>>10923339
anon, you fell back on the legal element again, no youre not legally diagnose as a pedo but your not legally diagnosed as a retard either, so what difference does it make when someone calls you one.
its like getting pissy because someone called you a monkey as an insult, you may not legally be a monkey but the point is to insult you and equate you to a monkey
dont forget being gay was once also a medical diagnoses.
>>10923950
>>10924217
okay but anons if thats the case why are you guys so defensive about being called a pedo then?
>>10924539
correct, but its the lolicons who are assuming thats people are saying they're child rapist when theyre call pedos.
>>10924802
anon, this is about the morals of the IDEA of fapping to lolis which are designed to look like young children, people arent saying lolicons and by extension pedos are touching kids, theyre saying that fapping to them is morally wrong to them, regardless of any study or legal basis.

[Anonymous No.]

Fellow proud biden voters can recognize each other through their shared hatred of lolicon, a known symbol of white supremacy, and thus further bond over their shared desire for white genocide in general.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10925684
I hate wh*tes but love loli
What am I

[Anonymous No.]

>>10925674
>okay but anons if thats the case why are you guys so defensive about being called a pedo then?
Because i'm not a pedophile. I wouldn't mind being called one if i were. I have nothing to hide since this is an anonymous website. I have no attraction to real children, just fap to loli. Just like i play call of duty and don't want to go to war.

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking pedos. How could anyone get off to the idea of removing a little girl's clothes and licking her tiny body all over, nibbling her neck and kissing her adorable little nipples? Only a heartless monster would think about her cute girlish mouth and tongue wrapped around a thick cock slick with her saliva, pumping in and out of her mouth until it erupts, the cum more than her little throat can swallow. The idea of thick viscous semen overflowing, dribbling down her chin over her flat chest, her tiny hands scooping it all up and watching her suck it off her fingertips is just horrible. You're all a bunch of sick perverts, thinking of spreading her smooth slender thighs, cock poised at the entrance to her pure, tight, virginal pussy, and thrusting in deep as a whimper escapes her lips which are slippery with cum, while her small body shudders from having her cherry taken in one quick stroke. I am disgusted at how you'd get even more excited as you lean over her, listening to her quickening breath, her girlish moans and gasps while you hasten your strokes, her sweet pants warm and moist on your face and her flat chest, shiny with a sheen of fresh sweat, rising and falling rapidly to meet yours. It is truly nasty how you'd run your hands all over her tiny body while you violate her, feeling her nipples hardening against your tongue as you lick her chest, her neck and her armpits, savoring the scent of her skin and sweat while she trembles from the stimulation and as she reaches her climax, hearing her cry out softly as she has her first orgasm while that cock is buried impossibly deep inside her, pulsing violently as an intense amount of hot cum spurts forth and floods through her freshly-deflowered pussy for the first time, filling her womb only to spill out of her with a sickening squelch. And as you lie atop her flushed body, she sighs breathlessly and her fingers dig into your back as she feels your cock hardening inside her again. You're all sick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10925768
Anyone not on the leading edge of the purity spiral gets buried by it. You gotta be able to change convictions as easy as changing shoes to stay ahead of this game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10920215
I'm aware that most of these anons are larping as twitterfags. I'm just responding so newfriends can learn about how to btfo moral purists.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10919323
What if I masturbate to Gura from time to time but like my women with wide birthing hips and nice round tits? Last time I checked pedos are incapable feeling secually attracted to adult women yet I always look for distinguishable adult features in my porn. What gives?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10908477
>She shit on lolicons then people found out her model is based off a loli doujinshi

KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>10921447
It's ok to attack NTR/cucks because those people get off on being humiliated.

[Anonymous No.]

Shitting on cunnyfags is one thing, it's the hypocrisy to save face that's infuriating. If you make your avatar based off of lolisho hentai and actively speak out against cunnyfaggotry then you lack integrity as an entertainer and have demonstrated yourself to only care about how people perceive you morally and socially, manipulating perverts and degenerates into giving you money while also simultaneously condemning their actions and beliefs. Most vtubers are faking it on at least some level but at least fucking try.

[Anonymous No.]

God i love lolis, but I love making people mad even more

[Anonymous No.]

>>10925073
don't make me turn on lolis...

[Anonymous No.]

>>10925799
anon, the fact that youre defending yourself implies you know its partly true, you may not be a true pedo but you are pedo-adjacent as a lolicon, which is morally better then being a true pedo but like only because of the fictional part of the fetish.
>>10926065
you mean a shotacon doujin, same difference really but still
>>10926499
she has said she no longer has a strong opinion about loli and she doesnt care much either way last i heard, it should be noted the anti-lolicon comments were made in 2019 which was before becoming a vtuber so she clearly actually thought about her stance and changed it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10926838
>shotacon doujin.
And lolicon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10926838
>anon, the fact that youre defending yourself implies you know its partly true,
ah yes just like when people defend themselves over crimes they didn't commit, that means they're actually probably a criminal. "Guilty until proven innocent" i think is what they say?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10926838
>so she clearly actually thought about her paypigs and changed it.
Fixed that for you. If you think her shutting up was about anything other than money, you're an utter fool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10926838
>she has said she no longer has a strong opinion about loli and she doesnt care much either way last i heard, it should be noted the anti-lolicon comments were made in 2019 which was before becoming a vtuber so she clearly actually thought about her stance and changed it.
I hear your argument, but I can't really believe that someone would change their opinion on something that easily when they were so heated about it before. Especially when it happens to coincide with them starting a career as a chuuba. It all feels very false to me, but I suppose we can just agree to disagree if you really think she's being genuine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10924263
>Science changes
Well already your argument is invalid, since it stands on un-proven science that has yet to be said as true. You are basically saying "Well, yeah scientists haven't proven being a lolicon is the same as being a pedo... YET!" See how stupid it sounds? It depends on the science ever changing to fit your opinion. And even if it did, miraculously change, we would have to study why it changed, and make sure it was because of an empiric reason and not political reasons. Take for example Transexuality and homosexuality being taken off the list of mental disorders when they so clearly are, all because of political intervention. So 2 things must happen for you to be correct anon, first, that the scientific definition for a pedo changes to include cartoons, and second, for said definition to be changed in a logical, non politically motivated manner.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10926953
being a pedo isnt a crime anon, touching children sexually is. pedo is a term, not a crime

[Anonymous No.]

>>10926838


That's some real proper fucked up gaslighting logic right there anon.

>if you try to argue against me if i say you decapitated your mom and neck-fucked the slowly cooling corpse, that just proves you're guilty of doing it

[Anonymous No.]

>>10927100
That is entirely beside the point of my argument, as i'm sure you're aware.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10908457
She shares the same self-hating ironic weeb audience as Nyanners that "hates pedos" while being at high risk of being real ass child molesters and groomers themselves
>inb4 NO YOU ARE THE PEDO
Don't make me post Dr.Pizza and all those so called "child saviours" that end up convicted child rapists you faggots we been over this

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>>10925674
>its the lolicons who are assuming thats people are saying they're child rapist when theyre call pedos.
you must be ESL or something, because even if the dictionary doesn't say it the way media and others in the real world use the word Pedophile in the USA, UK, Canada or Australia is the equivalent of calling someone a child molester.

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>>10925073
My hatred for pedos is just as big as my hatred for americunts.

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>>10927355
Every time

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>>10927270
makes sense for a closeted pedo
europoors are bigger child rapists than americans

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>>10926838
>Pedo adjacent
What does this word imply? Are ephebophiles pedo adjacent because they found 16yo Stacy hot on Tic Tok? Think anon, there are a miriad of things that can make a pp erect, even the vibrations of your car early in the morning traffic can make the fucker stand up, yet it decides not to when presented with real life children, however it does when presented a Japanese style drawing of a loli. Why would the dick, a member so easy to trigger, be so selective in that matter if not because it has no sexual interest in real life children?

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>>10927355
here's some ammo.

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>>10927078
I didn't bring up the reliance of psychology as a crutch, if you read my reply you'll see that I'm making a point that visiting a pill-peddler known as a psychologist is silly and not to be trusted. Were my quotes and wine insult not enough for you to pick up on? I was actually seriously going to use the political changes affecting trannies as well but I didnt want to move off topic.

That said, refer to >>10925247 Much faster, simpler, and to the point than debating semantics with you pedos.

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>>10927011
>It all feels very false to me
Anon, why give a fuck? You are watching her for her actual content no? If she's no longer anti loli then who gives a shit what she was before? As long as she doesn't start the anti loli shit again then that's good enough. But then again if she isn't even entertaining it doesn't even matter.

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>>10927620
>Pedo adjacent
Pedophilia is when a man dates a woman 6 inches shorter than him.

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>>10926838
>which is morally better then being a true pedo but like only because of the fictional part of the fetish.
Pedos rape kids, lolicons don't. How is this hard to understand?

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>>10908457
I've only seen a clip of her claiming she'll show her abs soon. my coomer brain approves if true.

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>>10927758
OK anon, if we cannot even use the book of mental disorders as a guideline (pre 1987, of course, everything after is utter bullshit), then what other metric can we use, beyond our personal reasonings? Are we, perhaps going to need to write papers on the matter here, right now? To prove your philosofical theory wrong? Well, I'm no Plato, but I have 3 more hours till bed time and no wine, so it will be rather hard.

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>>10927620
Do you get an erection looking at any irl woman that you pass on the street?

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>>10925674
Anon, your wall of text just admitted that your counterpoints are clinically and legally incorrect
>why are you guys so defensive
And you dare ask why several people address you on your incorrect moralfaggotry?

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>>10927181
Japan is a culture that highly values youth in all of its forms. The current aesthetics over there prioritize 'moe', which is based on cuteness and some propose it is even reliant on sexual attraction. Cuteness is based on a certain set of facial features that resemble our own young, large eyes, enlarged heads, retreating chins, etc. Any culture which values cuteness also inherently values youth.
This is also apparent in things like the 'lolita' subcultures, Japan's own obsession with their school years, and the fact that child-like characters are the most popular and the ones that have the most money behind them in most properties. Even media that's popular with normalfags like Persona or Konosuba have at least one loli or shota character, some of which even profess their love to a self-insert character.
If you enjoy and support modern Japanese culture then you inherently enjoy a culture which values and fetishizes youth. Western ironic weebs like Nyanners and Juniper recognize this fact, but are unable to conciliate them with their own deeply ingrained western morals, which creates a schism. Many of these people begin to believe that they can cause cultural upheaval on a massive societal scale, which is not possible for any one person to do, especially if they don't even live in the country where that culture originates.
If they were just honest with themselves and admitted that this is a simple fact that can't be forced to change and won't be for many years, there wouldn't be a problem.
>>10927786
Entertainment is far worse when the entertainer cares more about ensuring views and a steady cashflow than they do about being honest with themselves and their audience. Such entertainment can feel fake and forced. To some, only entertainers who innately enjoy the act of entertaining and don't care about how much money they make or how much attention they get off of it are worth watching.

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All the ink spilled over cartoon drawings of little girls are distraction; 99% of actual irl pedos are gays who like cornholing little boys.

So the cattle sublimate their anger over the latter into the former because they aren't allowed to consciously and explicitly acknowledge the reality of the latter.

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>>10927898
We can go a step further, pedos are secually attracted to real life children, mostly ONLY children. Lolicons jerk off to drawings of un realistic, fantasy like children (who sometimes aren't even children but some 9001yo dragon BS) yet are still attracted to real life adults.

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>>10909299
this
something about her just seems off.

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>>10928213
No, but if they where naked in front of me I would. I also remember not being comfortable in pools when I was 14 because the fucker would go haywire at the sight of women in bikinis. But never around kids in swimsuits, or naked kids for that matter when they ran through the pools showers. Now if 18yo Stacy ran past me on the showers completely naked...now that's another story bucko.

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>>10926953
anon, i more so meant the fact your going out of your way to argue about it is proof, you wouldnt be defensive about it if you werent partly aware you fall under the pedo category.
that or you mentally created the idea that adding "fictional children" to the definition of pedo makes it completely different and not even close to eachother.
im not saying your a child molester or looking down on you when i say lolicon = pedo, nor do i think you should be treated the same way pedos are but adding a few words to a definition doesnt change it from being pedo-related.
>>10927620
pedo-adjacent to me means it falls under the pedo category by definition with a few words changed but isnt directly pedophilla
>>10927898
anon if every pedo raped kids, everyone wouldve been raped by now.
most pedos know their sexual attraction is wrong, either morally or socially, and most are otherwise normal and functional human beings.
i say this but even so i still think shaming them is fine, keeps them in check and is more likely to prevent them from acting out their urges.
however i dont feel the same way with lolicons as they already have the fictional character thing preventing them from acting out of line.
my point is, being a pedo or pedo-adjacent isnt wrong if you never touch kids or what ever age group your into, and since lolicons are into fictional ones, they never can touch kids.

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>>10908457
She's a piece of shit.
I also find the fact that she shits on porn very, very ironic.

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>>10928358
This. So much this. While we discuss fucking cartoons there are real life shield diddlers parading around children on the streets, dressing like demons on lectures, regurgitating propaganda on the news and entertainment, and even becoming heads of state. Oh but it's the lolicons who are the problem anon!

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>>10929133
I don't fucking understand ironic weebs. It's like they hate Japanese culture but still engage with it. Utterly insufferable people.

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>>10928901
damn this dude actually took 30 minutes to reply to me with the same argument that i already explained why didn't work

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>>10929133
Playing devils advocate here, but porn is degenerate and rots the brain. Porn addiction is real and harmful. That being said hentai is better than real life porn (real life porn is basically being a cuck if you think about it). But imagination is still the healthiest way to self pleasure oneself, in moderation of course.

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>>10929406
Her design comes from a monstergirl fucking doujin. Porn.

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>>10929505
Ah, forgive, I wasnt paying attention to who wrote the tweet. Yes, hipocresy is to be looked down on.

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>>10929181
to be fair anon, the topic is about the morality of lolicons and if theyre pedos, so of course were ignoring the reallife stuff since it doesnt pertain to it.
however a lot of people who use their platform to moral fag about how lolicons are the same as child molestors are just trying to hit something they can actually try to affect, even if its misplaced.
>>10929338
had to go do something and the 3rd post was the one that took me the longest to reply to.
either way, im not accusing you of being a child molester anon, your not a criminal just because you like fapping to fictional underage girls but if you remove the fictional part of the statement, that would be what a pedo is.
the only thing that makes lolicons not just pedos with a fancy name is the fictional part of the definition and thats not exactly the best argument in some peoples eyes.

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>>10928901
>my point is, being a pedo or pedo-adjacent isnt wrong if you never touch kids
See, this is why you are the real fucking pedo here. You actually believe that only because they don't act upon children that it's ok. So if you found child porn on your neighbor's laptop you wouldn't break his teeth in? You wouldn't report him? Confront him? Oh no, that's his private life, as long as he doesn't act on it... Fuck off, all pedos deserve the rope. But since lolicons aren't pedos, by the phsycological and legal definitions, you feel alone, don't you anon? You feel like you are the only one here that jerks off to little Timmy. So you try and drag your anime companions down with you, so you no longer feel so alone in your crime. Well fuck you anon, here are some truths for you, you are a pedo, all pedos deserve a bullet, lolicons aren't pedos, and you will never be a woman.

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>>10930229
Are you just trying to bait us into posting loli? You just had to ask instead of posting all this shit bait

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>>10930406
It's the absence of UOOOOH general that is creating this withdrawal symptoms.

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New UOOOOOOOH thread.

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>>10930229
>however a lot of people who use their platform to moral fag about how lolicons are the same as child molestors are just trying to hit something they can actually try to affect
It has the same energy as a bitch on Twitter donating 50 cents to Africa. Except complaining about lolicons won't give real pedo catchers the budget they need to continue doing it. If they really cared, they would donate to and promote real life pedo hunters (not organizations because those NWO fuckers actually grab children and sell them to paying members) instead of complaining on Twitter.

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>>10930504
Well, I did want an excuse to post lewd Gura.

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>>10928344
Oh look an honest and reasonable good post ITT
Don't look people this is what a redpill looks like

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>>10929308


It's actually pretty simple anon; when you are a congenital solipsist (sometimes referred too in contemporary vernacular as 'NPCs'), you make no discrimination between different sources of validation, and indeed may even espouse multiple contradictory signals at any given time (low inferential horizon also means less cognitive dissonance to deal with, as they do not perceive connections between different contexts in the first place), as they are simply steered by their deep lizard brain drives to seek validation, whatever it's substantial content.

So on one hand they of course naturally hold all the opinions approved of by officially unofficial ministers of the popular discourse; while on another more particular hand, they also notice how a lot of people really like that there animu stuffs for some reason, and they want a slice of that validation pie for themselves personally.

You could say the fact that they just so happen to have gotten into tibetan cave painting culture for this is simply a matter of historical contingency - an accident, in aristotelian terms, of their particular life circumstances; one would see much the same sort of grifterish behavior in any other place such sorts might happen to end up in.

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YOU FUCKERS WHILE YOU ARE DISCUSSING UTTER BULLSHIT GURA IS STREAMING, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU!!?!?!?

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>>10930332
right, my bad, i forgot to include the consummation of real cp as part of it because i was more so focused on getting across the point then filling in all the possible actions that pedos could do.
but its a given, of course id report real cp if i found it on a neighbors computer or whatever.
just because i failed to mention it doesnt invalidate my overall point of pedos arent child molesters so lolicons arent either.
but pedos and lolicons are very much related and are only separated by one word, fictional.
if you remove fictional from the meaning of lolicon, its the same definition as pedo.
thats why normies or anti-loli people are against it because fictional isnt enough of a barrier to separate them.
>>10930406
i said before i dont mind lolis, if the art is hot then the dick go up. but of course dont post something thatll get ya nuked

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>>10931192
Sorry.

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>>10908457
same as Nyanners, a hypocrite

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>>10918164
>keep it to themselves
This is the vast majority of pedos no doubt, not just lolicons. I'm willing to bet pedo statistics are much higher then we all realize, which is both interesting and somewhat frightening.

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>>10931481
>are only separated by one word, fictional.
Anon, a LOT of things are separated by that word. Film, art, literature, gaming, entertainment as a whole, fuck, VTUBERS depend exclusively on being separated by that word from the real world. I understand that your point here is making an exception for lolicons, but I don't think you understand the repercusions of it. You do understand what a slippery slope is right? Well, I do believe it is real. And if we begin to invalidate lolicons by removing their "fictional" protection, then we will fall into a slippery slope of removing said fictional protection from literature, movies, video games etc. The whole "violence in movies and video games" , rethoric will come back in full force, this time led by young retards on social media. They are already trying to correlate violence towards women in vidya to real life. And while you believe lolicons are a slippery slope to pedophilia, well that's for the phsycologists to decide (real ones, not bullshit ones). But for the sake of ethics, we cannot make an exception for anything fictional.

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Are Disgaea characters loli or petite?

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>>10932371
Loli.

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>>10932371
Etna!
Petite

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>>10932243
that is a good argument, i guess im more so explaining why its easy to equate the 2 together, however im not saying that being a lolicon will make you a real pedo, thats part of why ive been using pedo-adjacent as im giving lolicons the benefit of the doubt that theyll keep to fictional children and wont go towards true pedos.
honestly i dont care if theyre into fictional kids, im more annoyed at lolicons having a shit fit and making the same arguments every time anyone says they're not comfortable with lolis morally, they need to chill out with it and understand that lolis are too close to children for peoples tastes and that arguing with said people wont help.

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>>10933049
>anyone says they're not comfortable with lolis morally
Because they don't stop there, they say the art shouldn't be legal and the people who consume and create it should be locked up. Besides, there's no good moral argument against loli.

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>>10932671
She honestly just looks like your typical Pettan character

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>>10933121
Yes there is: It's noncing, simple as.

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>>10933165
>Height: 148cm.
Well, I think you are right. If she were shorter I would consider her a loli.

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>>10933121
I object. There is a moral argument against loli if you live in the west. There is, however, no ethical argument against loli worldwide. Remember that morals change from culture to culture but ethics should be universal. This is why no matter how much the US cries, Afghanistan will keep on throwing gays off the roof, that's just morality, but killing just for the sake of it, without reason, is still looked down upon/illegal world wide, that's ethics.

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>>10933598
See, that's just simple objective morality. Wheather the western moral standards are superior to those on the east (they where 100 years ago, not so much today) is up to debate, but for the Japanese, it's just wierd, but not outright being a nonce.

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>>10934027
Based moral relativism enjoyer.

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>>10908457
Did this bitch ever contact the original character's author and pay royalty for stealing the concept?

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>>10908477
Reminder that those vehemently against loli have skeletons in their closets and are the real pedos

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>>10934253

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>>10934027
No, in the west we have freedom of expression, and based on that, loli is not immoral.

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>>10931481
I feel like we already went through this already. Hmmm, let me try and rephrase it so I can see what's so familiar about it.

>right, my bad, i forgot to include the actions of real violence as part of it because i was more so focused on getting across the point then filling in all the possible actions that school shooters could do. but its a given, of course id report a threat if i found evidence on a neighbors computer or whatever.
>just because i failed to mention it doesnt invalidate my overall point of psychos arent school shooters so gamers arent either.
but school shooters and gamers are very much related and are only separated by one word, fictional.
>if you remove fictional from the meaning of GTA Players, its the same definition as psychopath.
thats why normies or anti-games people are against it because fictional isnt enough of a barrier to separate them.

Ah, I see. Just some Jack Thompson fag trying to stop me from enjoying my harmless recreational activities.

>S-stop trying to conflate the tw-
Quiet faggot. You don't even know what you're talking about, jesas fucking christ. Both porn and video games primarily use dopamine receptors to keep you engaged and to keep you coming back. In fact, it's what is firing off in your brain the most. and it's what's showing the most activitity. Video Games and Porn are a lot more linked than you think. Not only is it fictional, but both brings lots of pleasure for the common person. It's the reason why you can even get addicted to it in the first place. Cope.

>B-but it's still "children"
No it's not. It's not children in the same vein that me killing NPCs and faggot sand niggers in Insurgency are not "people". They do not and will not ever be counted as the same thing. I'd also argue that for otaku and hard weebs actually do not look at lolis as children real or fictional, but more so as just the term loli itself. The Iconography of Loli has evolved so much so that just referring to Loli as, children, petite women, dwarves, or goblins is massively reductionists and completely misses the the nuances and complexitity of what makes Loli, "Loli". Of course, normalfags and ironic weebs do not surround themselves in the culture too much so they can't actually see the abstract concept and idea of "Loliness" of the loli and can only see the real world equivalents and what those characters can try to match to in their limited normalfag understanding (again, children, petite women, drawves, etc.). A simple case of semiotics. The Icon (loli) and the signal (real word equivalents).

In any case non of this shit even matters. No normalfag or interweb autist should even try and stifle the creators of a piece of artwork. Both video games and doujins deserve their place in this world because it is someone's speech. Tht speech and expression should be protected at all costs. These things are not illegal in my country, but if it was I wouldn't care. I would still continue to consume, interact, and engage with the material however I see fit. I will create and distribute such material however I see fit. Any and all attempts to stop me will be met with hostility. for it is an attack not only against me ,but all facets of freedom of speech.

>Ok, but you're still a pedo
Cope, retard. That or project harder. I don't have sexual thoughts about children in my neighborhood or will children across the world. In the same vein that I'm no psychopath or more prone to violence because I play violent video games. If you still have a problem try seething.

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Nu-lolicons are such drama queens. Just jerk off in silence like the rest of us oldfags. Nobody gives a fuck if you just don't talk about it. Fucking zoomers and millenials need to defend every aspect of their lives. Are you going to get upset when I criticize the way you wipe your ass too?

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>>10935144
Just be quiet if you think being quiet is such a virtue.

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>>10935144
Then just stfu if you won't defend it. It's not like you're adding anything to the convo. I on the other hand will scream and shout at the next anti-loli retard that comes my way because I fucking love lolis.

UUUUUUUOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHH CUNNNNNYYYY

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>>10935144
ironic weeb lolicons truly are the furries of today and they really must let everyone know that 1) YES they jack off to loli and 2) no it's not PEDO you dumb normalfag it's perfectly NORMAL

if anyone ever tells them to shut the fuck up and go away they will come screech in hordes about how everyone who hates lolicons are the real pedos actually

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>>10934963

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>>10935373
>How do you do fellow lolicons

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>>10909299
I checked her old twitter and she was similarly outspoken. She didn't seem very political in a divisive sense, she wasn't for either side, but she did have pet peeves she spoke about with strong language and basically self righteous indignation and moralistic bullshit.

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>>10908457
>>10908797
>>10910133
>>10910510
>>10911464
>>10912961
>>10923163
>>10925247
>>10925674
>>10926838
>>10927758
>>10928344
>>10928901
>>10930229
>>10931481
GREEK CHAMA....

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>western vtubers
>>>/trash/wvt