/asp/ - Aspiring Vtuber and Startup

[Anonymous No.]

What is /asp/?

A thread where we discuss our vtuber aspirations! Whether it's agency-based or independent, let's help each other grow and make it as entertainers. Indies are welcome to join, but shill responsibly. Share what knowledge, insights, what works/doesn't work for you. Remember to do your research before providing personally identifying information to companies online!

FAQ:
Do I need an expensive, fully rigged Live2D model to be a vtuber?
No! You can always start out as a pngtuber!

Where can I learn how to Live2D rig avatars?
Check out Brian Tsui's (of Iron Vertex) YouTube channel!

Where can I find artists/riggers?
Skeb.jp, ArtStation, DeviantArt, Twitter, Reddit, etc.

Where can I learn how to digital market myself?
https://learndigital.withgoogle.com/digitalgarage

Where can I find some good games to stream?
https://twitchtracker.com/games
https://sullygnome.com/

Twitch or Youtube?
Multistream to both.

RESOURCES:
General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
OpSec Guide: https://pastebin.com/2mkc8x9P
List of Assets and other resources: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQHyRDZ3nxlIINfZz_wWCbgQ9gR4OgbTFhyGwq45DseUixkJJKbUmhPjnkWcmh7dOCDdxObAZXv_zti/pubhtml

NEW AUDITIONS:
Phase Connect Generation 2 (deadline 10/31)
https://phase-connect.com/auditions/
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSduL0o4NY8weiiZTp3Teyn73z_Jcf-xv4fabqm1bkVGUmx5wQ/viewform

VSh*jo (deadline 9/30)
https://www.reddit.com/r/VShojo/comments/p894j7/announcement_auditions_for_vshojo_start/?context=3
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSegQKgJGaKAu56-x09gr_VhMiaDSGwCRBTvovuP0nZtTaQtxQ/viewform

Stay grounded, stay hopeful. Don't kill yourself yet.

Previous Thread: >>10489643

[Anonymous No.]

>>10570428
If you're looking for a good babi from here you could try watching Feef who pretty regularly is above 40 viewers per stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>10589337
Feef has the voice to pull off femboy. the other anon was asking for obvious male voices using female character

[Anonymous No.]

What're the steps to getting a collab with someone outside your circle?
I organized one for a celebration stream with my regulars, had three (all streamers I'd watch, but not all exactly good) say they wanted in. Turned out two had never played the game before. We'd gone over some stuff a week in advance, and they were asking kind of basic queries, but it's a complex game, so if they were just casual then it'd have been understandable. They didn't have the peripherals, so were just KBMing their way through like plebs.
But my 'circle' seem to do a lot of FOTM, which doesn't always line up with what I'm into.
Do you just ping someone you don't really know, or a friend-of-a-friend?
Say I want to do a CK2 collab - I've never interacted with Egg. Do I just DM him on Twitter/Twitch and say "Yo, I like your stuff, want to help me wipe out humanity and replace them all with horses for Celestia?"

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>>10590407
pick a dumb game. there's a reason why games like Left 4 Dead, Fall Guys, Mario Kart and Mario Party are all good collab games. it's simple, easy to pick up and easy to understand. you really should not be collab on a challenging game that requires advanced knowledge unless you know they're about your skill level. this even goes for games like Apex as you can see with Selen's collabs in Nijisanji.

if you're not sure or they've never played, drop the game immediately. switch to something simple.

reaching out to chuubas cold is pretty off putting. i've gotten random DMs on twitter and the first thing they ask is to collab when i've never seen their content and don't even know what they're like. i would go hang out in some of their streams maybe for half an hour and engage with them in chat. get them to know you. i've reached out to several not /here/chuubas that way and have made some pretty good connections. after 3-4 days if they stream regularly, they'll recognize you name and maybe drop into your streams too. building connections that way makes for better collab opportunities since you have a better understanding of each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>No more new views or contact from the company i applied to
Ahh I hope they'll get back to me eventually. I was really interested in the Alice and Red Riding Hood themes :,(

[Anonymous No.]

>>10590407
Come up with something interesting and unique that will benefit both of you. An Interesting gameshow collab where you host it is an example.

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>>10594353
I'm looking into planning a larger collab at the minute, with a bracketed tournament, and the loser in each round raids into whoever beat them... Except that seems like it would foster resentment, which isn't ideal.

Something like 'Nuzlocke through Pokemon Sw/Sh speedrun'; but then make everyone use their final team in a fight at the end, and not tell anyone that until they get to the E4. Or maybe a direct competetive in a game, so maybe WWE or something.

thoughts?

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dont die

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>>10592801
same here. i'm really disappointed bc there were two groups I would have loved to be in and I got views but no contact. I'm having really good growth as an indie why do I have to completely botch the auditions rip

[Anonymous No.]

What if you made an actual real audition to a company as a gag for your viewers with no intention of joining?

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>>10597900
you'll probably get filtered out. but if you get selected you can always let the interviewer know that you'd withdraw your application and that it wasn't serious. or commit to it. though they'll probably err more on the side of a content creator who has a past history of consistency.

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>>10598645
Thanks, anon.
Hopefully it's funny enough for you guys to remember my retarded question.

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>>10369346 #
This breakdown was super interesting, but do the smaller companies (Prism, Cyber, etc.) offer salaries? Or do they just get a cut of the donations? I know most require that you put in full-time hours, so I’m curious as to if the talent is actually able to make a living or if they have another job that pays for living expenses.

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>>10596601
Well another anon who got an interview said that they landed it after views stopped popping up on their vids. Maybe there's a chance? I got contacted for singing samples, but then they lost interest after I sent them I guess.

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>>10600046
>singing samples
Interesting, did you sing at all in your audition or mention singing in the application?

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>>10600379
No, I left it out for a reason lmao. I don't sing at all. But it makes sense that the other person who got an interview with PRISM said that her strong point it singing, since it seems that they're looking for singers rn.

[Anonymous No.]

Do you bother approaching your art/rigger siblings at all? I feel like the expectation of interaction is kinda stupid, but I also appreciate any excuse to at least say hi to someone in the same boat as me.

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>>10600692
I've checked out some streams of my art siblings. There's really nothing that connects us aside from the art mama. We have completely different types of content, personality, and tastes. I've said hi once but haven't really bothered to interact with them beyond that.

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>>10600692
i've raided my siblings before and commented on stuff from them on twitter but they don't seem to be interested in interacting with me ;_;

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>>10596485
You can't tell me what to do, bitch

[Anonymous No.]

What sort of average viewer numbers do you think you'd need to be able to go fulltime, and make a living streaming?

I'm not expecting it to happen anytime soon, if ever, but I see people who have a 30-40 seem to be doing it near full-time, or thinking they'll be able to do so soon (tm).

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>>10604504
you need 1,040 SUBSCRIBERS to make the same as a $15 per hour minimum wage job

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>>10599878
Prism doesn't offer any salary. You just get a cut of donations. Most of the prism girls stream on the side. Iku, Shiki, Nia(neet), Luto(student) are the ones who's primary income is from streaming.

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>>10599878
Prism may but it doesnt matter since it is just coming out of your donations anyways. Most of the small corpos making thousands a month so depending on the cut they dont "need" a salary. Yuri from cyberlive made $5000 in the past week alone since she did a subathon

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>>10600594
Can't wait to see more great singers stifled by poor mixing

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>>10604929
One streamer I follow has a hiding the evidence command anyone in chat can use, which times them out for 10 seconds but removes their messages from the chat overlay, as well as from the twitch chat.

I'm using OBS, but the chatbox widget from SL, and when I time someone out, their message stays in the on-screen overlay. I actually set up a command to drop lorem ipsum to drive it off screen, because one of my regulars doxxed themselves, so I timed them out because I thought that would remove it.

Anyone know how to make it work so that users can delete their messages, and they'll disappear from the overlay? I tried asking the chuuba, but got no response, and their DMs are closed.

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>>10600692
I like mine. We have a group chat and everything. We just pop into each others streams and raid each other every now and then. Sometimes collab. Cheer each other on, that kinda stuff. If you can get close to yours it's nice connections to have

[Anonymous No.]

any tips on how to practice singing with a houseful of roommates?

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>>10604223
You WILL NOT be archived.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there an alternative to veadotube?
I just noticed that they put a tranny flag on a corner.

[Anonymous No.]

Aww yeah, this shirt/jacket combo looks dumb af I love it.
Having more fun kitbashing clothes than I was actually making the rest of the model lmao

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>>10618143
Yuck why do they do this

[Anonymous No.]

Out of curiosity, is there a Vtuber whom's specific niche is in-depth game reviews? If not, would that be an interesting setup for a vtuber, or would it be redundant?

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>>10621482
sounds like good content for recorded youtube videos but not as a live streamer.

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>>10618143
resource doc in the op, scroll down to the avatar section

[Anonymous No.]

Can you even do anything with hair on VRoid Studio without a tablet?

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Hi, I finally streamed again, this time in spanish! i feel like I'm much confident in it... I'm gonna stream tomorrow at like 2:00 AM UTC (in spanish too) , so i hope to see you there!

also, can i get the link to that espie discord?

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>>10626412
its possible but dont expect great results

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>>10626412
I made this with my mouse from scratch and 0 3D modelling experience. Just have to be patient and go slowly

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>>10626867
*much more

god i am stupid

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>>10627201
How did you deal with lines just cutting on right after you click? Nodes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10626867
Where?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10628315
*cutting off

[Anonymous No.]

>>10628449
>lines cutting off right after you click
Sorry, I'm not sure what lines you're talking about. You mean the guidelines/wire mesh that shows where the hair will go?

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>>10628609
I mean that when you start drawing and the stroke cuts off right after you click instead of waiting for you to let go off the button.

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>>10628398
FUCK IM DOUBLE STUPID

https://m.twitch.tv/citra3000

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>>10628723
Mine doesn't do that. As long as I keep the mouse held down, it'll draw the hair wherever it goes. You might have something wrong with your mouse or some program keeps interrupting your mouse clicks keeping it from being held down properly.

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>>10628923
I tested it again and I was just using the wire mesh wrong.
Thanks.

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[Anonymous No.]

So I did some gorilla streams at the weekend. I normally stream M/W/F at 7pm local time, but had an entirely free weekend, so did a four/five hour stream Sa/Su from 8am local.

The turnout was appalling - I average 8/9 viewers on my normal streams, but going so early I had an average of 2. Which means bots. On the other hand, I did a gorilla art stream (making schedule and twitter announcement posters; and clip editing) that had a 9 viewer average when my normal was 6; and that was on a Sunday at 1pm local.

So, Aspies, what're your thoughts on gorilla streams, do you line them up time wise? Do you play different games, or do different content?

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>>10634577
I'm gonna be real with you, I'm not entirely sure people actually look at schedules and plan to make streams a week ahead. If you set up a stream early on the day of, you'd probably get the same turnout as setting it a week prior.

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>>10590407
talk to them and ask? are you really fucking asking us how to set up a playdate for you?
just how underaged are you

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>>10634778
Agreed, no one's gonna plan their schedule out unless you're some big vtuber with an established fanbase. Unless it's something really special, like an anniversary stream or something.

>>10634577
Making a schedule and sticking to it can be counted as a skill towards consistency though, if you're planning on applying to a company. I'd suggest ignoring the turnout of guerilla streams (just treat them as practice), just compare your normal stream numbers.

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I've had my twitter and youtube account for years, haven't been trying to grow it or anything.
I don't know how to start introducing myself since I can't be like "hey, I'm new here!"...
And any past connections I kinda missed the chance to deepen them.

Right now I'm starting to create content again, but I really want to network. I've already reached out to a couple of mutuals on Twitter.
Should I join in smaller twitch chats and be more active? Initiate collabs and such?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10634778
>>10635029
Yeah, I don't think anyone clears their schedule to watch me, I was more asking "do you see different numbers in your unscheduled streams depending on time, or are you consistent?" Sorry for lack of consistency

>>10634834
Personally, so long as I either recognize their name from my chat, or I already follow them, I'd probably be up for it.
But I was watching someone's stream yesterday, and he said "just DM me as a cold open if you'd like, but expect an hour's voice chat to make sure we can vibe"
One of my regulars asked in chat, and I've caught her streams, so was happy to do it. But I had someone else I didn't follow, who didn't follow me, and had only been in chat that session DM me and ask, which was just a flat-out no. A third one was a mutual on twitter who never turned up to stream, but liked a majority of my posts. That one fell through because his internet wasn't stable enough to hold the discord call, OBS, and a multiplayer session open though.
I'm just kind of interested in what other streamers' would want -

[Anonymous No.]

How's it going?
Have you been doing your reps? Tried anything new? Seen any growth?

Share your updates here, let us help one another stay motivated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637874
thanks anon. i'm seeing growth in my average viewers, but not by much. went from average of 5 in august to average of 7 in september... but my follower count isn't increasing. i've stagnated at 120 for the last 10 days. streaming three/four times a week for 3+ hours. going to be buying a set of overlays and setting them up this weekend, and have a new set of emotes on order, so gonna be adding all of them in. hoping it gives a bit more oomph.

also looking to get a l2d model, or pick up vroid and make my own. it's time to step up from png.

how about you, anon?

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>>10638901
Some growth is still growth, that's good. Seems like your engagement is increasing but not your reach.
Overlays, emotes, and a model will definitely help with viewer experience, but have you done anything to extend your reach? Collabs, tweeting, etc.

I'm picking back up on streaming and content creation. Looking into other platforms like Tiktok and Instagram but don't want to start posting without any plan or ideas.

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>>10638901
>>10640408
Gonna agree with the second anon. Since you are gonna get a new model perhaps, you could perhaps do a sort of debut stream? Feel like this would warrant it and might catch the attention of a couple of peeps here and there.

Other than that, yeah, try to shill yourself a bit now I guess. Post funny montages of you on youtube or one of those funny moments losers or whatever. Any way you can garner more attention without seeming like a fucking shill I think

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>>10640408
i'm doing my twitter reps, but not as hard as i could i guess. so gonna work on that. collabs are definitely something i want to do, just need to find partners for it.
what are your thought on collab size, and who hosts? if both of us are same size channel, should we both go live, or only one each time, and all viewers go to others channel? or should i ask upwards, and find someone bigger to chase?

>>10641249
am working on montage from current games - just need to finish game and pull it all together.

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>>10636349
Not that anon, but I've had successful unplanned streams at times I don't usually stream. A Saturday night (EDT time zone) stream ended up averaging about 20 concurrent viewers, which is on the high end of normal for me, depending on what I'm doing. I usually have to stick to my schedule because they're the only times I have free to stream, but I've found that unscheduled streams tend to do just as well or better when compared to my usual.

[Anonymous No.]

the live2d server now has a website for listing illustrator and animator commissions
https://vtuber.gg/

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>>10641431
>collab size
2 people seem great if you guys are getting to know each other.
Group collabs really count on the chemistry between the members in order to have a great stream.

>who hosts
I think it'll be better to take turns streaming (the other person can host them on their twitch channel).
This will expose you to other vtubers' audiences and increase your potential audience.
It also depends on how large you are though, since you draw in ~7 viewers it's okay to not stream on your channel during collabs sometimes, but in the future when you bring in a sizeable audience all of you should stream at the same time.

>ask upwards
Definitely give it a shot. But don't neglect similar or even smaller sized channels.
Your main aim should be to form networks (friends?) and create variety in your content.
Be careful of coming off as a leech though, you probably should establish yourself as a friendly person before reaching out.

Good luck on your montage. And like that anon said, definitely do a debut stream.

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>>10646915
Yeah definitely why I'd be reluctant to ask bigger fishes. I feel like I'd be more comfortable with same sized or smaller peeps, since I don't wanna seem like some attention grabbing cunt

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>>10647759
I think it's fine to ask bigger fishes so long as your content matches up and you're both aware of each other.

[Anonymous No.]

On a related note, are there any large initiatives to connect vtubers with one another?

And what vtuber-related discord servers are you guys in? Do you join the discord server of every vtuber you like? (some are sad and basically dead due to having few members)

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>>10650328
You can find the EN vtubers discord in the OP doc, it's active and does workshops for noobs

I only join servers with VTubers that I can click with

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>>10650328
I've only joined ones I'm calling in to for collab purposes. I've got nothing against Discord servers, but I'm not used to using them, so I just tend not to use them much.

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>>10616288
If you live in a city with any kind of karaoke booth, just go there and practice. Since you have roommates, if you can get over your embarrassment about it, it would be polite to notify them in advance that you will be making some noise and doing your best to soundproof your space. Otherwise, wait until they're all out of the house, but depending on their schedules/how many you have that may not be feasible.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do grown men think they can get away with being a cute anime girl vtuber? You won't make it as a vtuber unless you're already a biofem

[Anonymous No.]

>>10656653
I don't, that's why I'm a grown man vtuber.

[Anonymous No.]

So about the Vshojo auditions, at first I didn't even consider it but seeing some people giving a try is making me want o do it as well. Problem is, I hate Nyanners and Vei; a friend tell me I should apply and if by some miracle I get in I should treat them like that coworker you hate: you tolerate them and do the bare minimum of teamwork, but I'm not sure I can handle that.

Vshojo gets plenty of attention and money going but I have to wonder if I can handle working with, well, Nyanners and Vei.

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>>10658494
nice blog but auditions have closed already.

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>>10658625
Works for me. If I got the due date wrong means I shouldn't have considered it in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

Let's say I'm skilled enough to make my own decent-looking 2D model and can learn to make whatever I want on VRoid, what are the pros and cons of 2D and 3D avatars?

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>>10658755
unless you're gonna sell your work on commission, just pick the easier one and get started making content

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>>10635391
What’s your Twitter?
It’s not much, but I think I can help a little

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>>10658755
If you have full body tracking equipment, 3d is better. If not, 2d.

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>>10658494
Based post
Glad you didn’t join up with them

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>>10637874
Maybe this week or the next because of bad wheather where Im living, im going to test a new low end overlay and just doing zatsu reps while drawing traditionally. Also I fix my audio and I feel more confident when talking on english, im pretty excited n_n

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>>10658494
> fantasy: conjuring dream where anon tolerates nyanners and veibae as coworkers
> reality: anons 0% chance of ever making it in vshojo in the first place

[Anonymous No.]

How forgiving would most people be for an obvious guy using a female avatar? I actually have a logical, humorous/intentionally goofy reason why my character would have a male voice, but I admit it does make me a bit apprehensive...I don't want people to confuse me as trans, or someone trying to fool people, but at the same time I'm pretty set on using this specific character I've put years of details into, sooo...
I also have no illusions of ever hitting it big, I mostly want to do it for fun and to be creative so I guess it probably wouldn't matter in the long run anyway, I just didn't want to IMMEDIENTLY turn people off I suppose.

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>>10660429
There are a lot of babis already, so it's not exactly breaking new ground. I feel like this question gets asked a lot, and babis do filter some people, and don't filter others. If you want to stream with the character you've come up with, just do it, and carve out your own niche.

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>>10658800
I don't think I'm in the "muh content machine" stage yet. I'm more in a "looks fun, might try" mindset right now.

>>10658910
Thanks.

>>10660563
>There are a lot of babis already
>/asp/ could only cough up one

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>>10660429
it sounds like you just want to do this as a hobby at which point why do you care so much? just get a model and start.

>>10660630
>>/asp/ could only cough up one
because most babis just start instead of concern trolling about how they just want to do this as a hobby but secretly hope they can be the one to make it big. you can look on r/virtualyoutubers and twitter and see dozens start streaming each week.

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>>10660893
Ah, I'm not that guy. I really just wanted to watch some of them to make sure I like that aesthetic and if I wanted to go that route with my avatar.
I have a design in mind already and I can just switch its gender however it's needed. I just want to be sure if it's something I like.

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>>10660630
Anon didn't say those babis were from /asp/. Babis are abundant, even when only one has come from /here/.
>>10660429
Babis filter some people, but if you manage to find a decent whale you can get by. I saw a babi with like 29 viewers and a guy just dropped 500 bucks on him.
>>10660295
Vshojo seems to be fishing for big indies with equips and models already rather than provide for those. So just adding to the chuuba group rather than making their own. I will still audition for other agencies, but even if I had the numbers I don't think I'm the type of content creator Vshojo is looking for.

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>>10661012
jusagi, just watch the streams but don't listen to his "advice"

[Anonymous No.]

>>10660563
>>10660893
>>10661028
I guess I didn't realize how prevalent it already was. Okay! Thanks Anons.

>>it sounds like you just want to do this as a hobby at which point why do you care so much?
Yeah, good point. I think I'm just overthinking. Thanks!

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>>10661042
I already did. I feel like his avatar is androgynous enough to get me to completely ignore the difference, as well as the work he puts into his streams is impressive enough to also ignore it.
That's why I was asking for more babinikus.

[Anonymous No.]

How willing would people be to watch a female vtuber voiced by a dog?
I want to be a female vtuber, but i feel like being a dog is going to filter people.

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>>10661614
lmao
I know you're taking the piss but please do it.

[Anonymous No.]

How would you fill something like Lulu's niche without being in a corp already?
I feel like girls like her, or Ina to an extent, are popular because they're an oasis in a large group. So people go to them for a nice quieter stream when they're tired of the higher energy or constant talking.

But as an indie I feel like being silent most the time with quiet quips here and there is just boring for people.

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>>10662277
there's actually hundreds of them but they're all sitting around 10 viewers on twitch. being silent is a death nail for indies. you literally cannot grow as a streamer if your content can be replaced by the LoFi hip hop beats youtube video.

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>>10662277
>Lulu
Why does every time I find a vtuber I like they have graduated? Same with the crossdresser that played beyblade and that loli chubba. What luck.

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/asp/ies..............................

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>>10661614
Nijisanji has a female Vtuber that is literally a dog.

[Anonymous No.]

>My TikTok feed is full of fucking Apex and Valorant
Alright fine, you fuckers win. Which of the two should I bother with?

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>>10666827
>overwatch clone and overwatch clone
I don't get it.

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>>10667054
>TF2 clone and TF2 clone
respect your elders

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>>10656653
Would a shota chuuba make it?

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>>10667436
Not sure how big the demand for a shota chuuba is. Lolis are always in demand.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone have experience looking for japanese 3D artists? I had planned on commissioning Yoolie but he just announced a delay, and Japanese artists all seem unapproachable due to no contact info given. My standards are very high but I have the money to afford throwing 2 grand on a model.

[Anonymous No.]

Keeping up with the consistency, boys. Crawling closer to that sweet, sweet affiliate peak. I took some advice I got last time and decided to indefinitely postpone the debut plans. Barely have an audience on any socials, so it's better to save all that for a while.

I think a big hurdle down the line is finding good stream times where people would actually watch. Right now I'm pretty locked in to 8 EST because of work and school, but if I could, I'd like to find a less absolutely stacked time slot. That being said, it's a popular time for a reason, ain't it? It's good for viewers and streamers. Maybe next semester, I can try something a bit earlier to avoid the crowding.

Keep filling your powder kegs, anons. That lucky spark's gotta hit one of us eventually.

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>>10666827
Valorant if you want tactics/plays to be a focus of your stream, Apex if you don't.

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>>10666827
If you're good at FPS, why not both.
If you suck at FPS, don't even bother (unless you're some cute girl).

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>>10667505
I ask because a few threads ago i posted a Vocaroo and one of the replies was that i sounded like a childhood friend but idk how much that would overlap with shota
>>10667585
We are all gonna make it anon!

[Anonymous No.]

starting stream soon! I'm gonna be drawing Orla from tsunderia! (stream en español)

https://www.twitch.tv/citra3000

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>>10668125
What do you all think about loading screens?
It seems good if you have an audience and are waiting for them to roll in, and also gives you prep time, but I can imagine people clicking on a small stream and leaving because they don't see any content.

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>>10668888
Try to have them for as little as possible, at least when you start (Also, nice quads)

[Anonymous No.]

>>10668888
my loading screens are about 3-5 minutes long and have a short agenda of what the stream will cover. usually something like
>pre stream chat
>the game we're playing
>end stream chat plus announcements
>raid a friend
>end
that way the chat can filter in, gives me enough time to do final checks and stuff. but i try not letting it go past 5 minutes.

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>>10670187
This is the best formula imo, it gives people time to come in and winds them down and gives them a chance to say goodbye as well. I'm always upset when I join a stream only 10 minutes in and they're already balls deep gaming.

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>>10670187
>agenda of what the stream will cover. usually something like
>>pre stream chat
>>the game we're playing
>>end stream chat plus announcements
>>raid a friend
>>end
that's smart as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

What's the origin of roommate? I get what it means but i'd like to know how it got started

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>>10672829
it came from JPs and the terminology carried over when vtubing came here to the west. JPs value their privacy a lot so many talents would talk about things their """"roommates""" did instead of themselves.

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i want to be a lolituber but i don’t know if my voice could fit ): or would people cringe hearing me talk

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>>10673797
do it anyway

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>>10673188
Thanks anon
>>10673797
Post Vocaroo of your best loli voice and how you sound normally

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>>10674673
https://voca.ro/1eFKmA0ZPzka

give it to me straight anon just... spare me a little

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>>10675243
you sound like Mumei from hololive, small loli probably wouldn't work, but a 14-15 year old loli would be perfect

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>>10675243
like other poster said, 14-15 seems perfect. didnt cringe at all, was nicely surprised, go for it anon

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>>10675243
Like the other anons said, you could pull off a 14-15 yo loli (Also you lean more on comfy than energetic so use that in your favor)

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>>10673797
Be a loli if you want, Anon. Like the other anons said maybe not a small one but you still sound young. Even if you didn't you can do it, Kyuotto's voice doesn't match her loli model and that's fine. Same for Hikiko.

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>>10675331
>>10676215
>>10676620
>>10676020
thank you guys! you’re wonderful

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Yaxie? what the fuck just happened

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>>10677085
>please look at me
>look into my eyes
>don't look away
>it's going to be okay
>everything happens for a reason
>announcements are scary nowadays
>but it's going to be okay
>i just need you to remember
>remember all those good times we had
>all those laughs, all the tears
>please remember
>...
>...
>...

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>>10676664
you the puppet girl?

[Anonymous No.]

Why should I have a debut stream instead of streaming casually while building up an audience?

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>>10678884
you shouldn't have a debut stream

[Anonymous No.]

>browsing steam
>ideas for content flow in effortlessly so that might never be a problem if I actually get started
>still undecided on my character's lore and having a place to stream at peace
What can I do? We're not packed like sardines at home but I'm still on an apartment building and live on an apartment with my dad. My "office" would be kind of difficult to insulate and it's right in front of a tenant's living room and kitchen, and my bedroom is right next to my dad's so it would be impossible to stream late from there.

Also, my options for my character's lore, don't steal, are
>amnesiac malfunctioning android looking for a purpose
>idiot god of death that got exiled for bungling an important job, currently looking for something to do with his eternal life
I know my lore is not all that important to get started but I'd like some thoughts in case I have something good at hand.
I'm not sure if I'm too comfortable with the god of death idea, dad is kind of old and it would be odd to be calling myself a god of death at home, but anons ITT told me to channel my inner chuuni and that was actually my IRL chuunibyou gimmick back in the day.

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>>10679275
no one cares about lore, please just stream.

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>>10679292
Should I post my test stream here?

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>>10679342
sure. but you should really just do a handful of local recording streams first.

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bump

[Anonymous No.]

I tried so hard this month with nothing to show for it… I’ll try better next month…

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>>10679275
Lore is really only important for use as a bit of fluff. Instead of "I had to go to work today, so stream was late!" you can say "Sorry for the late stream, I had trouble patching into the signal." If you're some kind of space farer, or "Had a guild meeting and we were so busy arguing over loot that I almost forgot to stream!" if you're an adventurer, just things like that. There's no reason for a big complex lore because it won't matter any time except the debut stream if you choose to go the fanfare route.

There's nothing wrong with a little kayfabe but don't focus on it too much.

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>>10668888
I use them for ~3/4 minutes at the start of stream. About 30 seconds to check my audio is working (phone or other computer), 90 seconds of mid-roll ads to stop pre-roll for new users for the first 30 minutes, and then a intro to what the plan is for the stream

My last stream, for example, was a WH40K game. So I spent a few minutes going through the different factions, how they relate to the IoM, and the background of the story.

Previously, I've done Crusader Kings achievement hunting streams, and they're often based on historical events, or 'what-if' scenarios, so I can do a short segment at the beginning on why this achievement exists, what it meant historically, how we're going to do it, and what sort of challenges are likely to be along the way.

Also, it gives me a chance to put out any notices I might want, such as planned changes to emotes or overlays, and any upcoming changes to the schedule/collabs.

But then some chuubas have it for 15 minutes at the start of stream, which means I'll leave.

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>>10678884
Debut when you have an audience. I did mine two weeks after hitting affiliate - it wasn't perfect timing, but it meant I could hype people for it.

Turns out it wasn't the best timing. That was August, then my birthday in September... Means my birthday stream had people burned out. If I've scheduled it for six months after starting stream, then I'd be slightly ahead of the Christmas streams, but timed away from my birthday, so two celebration streams.

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>>10681926
>This mofo streaming Warhammer

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bump

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https://voca.ro/1aSPintT8AI3
help

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>>10684770
You sound alright, other anons have said it before, design doesn't really matter that much, it may get a couple people to click, but it's the content that makes them stay, if you absolutely must base the design of your voice, it somewhat gives shy librarian girl vibes

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>>10682173
I mean, not the actual TT game. I was playing the new Necromunda game.

Although TTS does actually have a WHF/40K mod, and there's a Discord set up to gain access to everything. I know Kommi streams it sometimes, even if her audio is utter dogshit.

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>>10678884
You shouldn't, stream casually and build up an audience.

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>>10684770
You have a cute accent and definitely do not sound like a dude. You have a nice chill voice right now, I wouldn't make it higher personally.

[Anonymous No.]

How important are things like overlays and transition screens to you, as a viewer?

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>>10692906
not at all.

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>>10692906
So long as they exhibit basic competence i don't really mind (Have a nice color scheme, don't use comic sans, etc)

[Anonymous No.]

Are there any differences in the usual advice given to vtubers when you stream for a hispanic audience?

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>>10693669
Do the same things, just in Spanish. :D

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>>10681985
Would it really be a debut if it isn't my first stream?

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>>10692906
They're not important - you can fullscreen your game, and have your avatar on top (blocking nothing important, though).

I just checked the top five Vtuber, and top five English streams. The only overlays are either boxes around the camera, alert-pop-ups, or subathon timers.

EXCEPT the Just Chatting stream Lumi's running (and that Vei was running). You're not interesting enough to fill a screen by yourself, you need to have extra stuff there so that chat is actively staying in tab.

But with gameplay, you can hide pretty much everything.

>>10693875
Feel free to debut to 0 viewers.

You NEED to build hype for your debut - if you're in the 'Special Events' category with 3 or fewer, you'll not be top 10. Which quite possibly means not on screen for laptop users. Getting viewers boosts you up the category, which means more people tune in, and it becomes a circle.

And you need to be not bad at streaming - if it's your first time, then you won't have any idea what you're doing. You might fuck up all sorts of things, or forget to turn your mic on, or whatever.

Holo gets away with doing a debut as first stream. IRyS had 300,000 YT followers before she first went live. Quite a chunk of them probably turned up. I had 60 followers when I debuted, and had an average of 15 people watching for the six hours I was going (played through Portal afterwards). This was hyped in two small streamer discords, and a week's worth of notice on twitch, and in all my streams.

But yeah, it's still your 'debut'. The term comes from a debutante ball, which is where ladies of marriageable age would be first introduced as such to polite society, rather than as children. It's like the celebration of taking it seriously, and actually calling yourself a streamer.

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>>10693875
you seriously need to get rid of the holorot from your brain. corpos can do it because they're already a massive force. what do you have? a handful of reddit posts and tweets into the void with zero people knowing about you, caring about you or even having any idea what you're like?

if you debut with hololive, viewers know that you have some semblance of talent because at the very least you managed to make it through the auditions and interviews. and cover has already shown to invest enough into talents with a model, rigging, social media advertising etc. but you're not going to have any of that, why would anyone watch you? there are dozens of western vtubers debuting every week to single digit numbers, usually a friend and themselves on a second device.

you're not special enough for people to give a shit about your debut. you need to build up a community first which means streaming.

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>>10684770
Are you Singaporean? Even if you aren't, I like the fact your accent is very soft. If you wanna be animal themed, I think a lamb or alpaca would be fitting. You could also pull off a hime type of character too.

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>>10634778
i do this with my favorite streamer but if thats not you then i may or may not come when i notice your stream and have time and don't see anything that feels more interesting

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>>10694215
Ah, right. I didn't see much point in sticking to it as a first time ever premiere of my stream out of principle but treating it as the moment you are telling the world you're taking it seriously makes more sense to me.

>>10695182
>holorot
I think that the closest I have to that is thinking that they have the best-looking models in the industry and wanting to have a model that works similarly to theirs, though not having a hololive-tier model wouldn't stop me either as long as I can get a cheap model I'm content with. No need to get that perfectly when I'm not planning to put any money into it yet.
Really, though, my plan from the get-go was to do small streams in my free time to whoever wants to watch me like >>10688001 said and maybe have a joke debut later on.
I just wanted to get this out of the way in case there was anything to it since a lot of the people giving advice to become a vtuber talk about having debuts and hyping your debut, but my thinking from the beginning was "why even bother to debut to zero viewers?".

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>>10696477
>I think that the closest I have to that is thinking that they have the best-looking models in the industry
but that's not even remotely true. the rhombus gura meme is a thing because of how consistently bad hololive's rigs are. western indies have vastly better rigging https://twitter.com/cillia/status/1441486459920285700

>since a lot of the people giving advice to become a vtuber talk about having debuts and hyping your debut
/asp/ has never given this advice. whoever the fuck told you this is a fucking retard and will never make it as a vtuber. the only time this ever works is if you're already rich and can buy connections.

the closest examples >we have from /here/ are lobster and beri, both who have dropped multiple thousands in custom assets and buying upvotes, likes and retweets on social media and even they're just barely sitting at 30-40 viewers on twitch.

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>>10696691
>but that's not even remotely true.
Yeah, I should rephrase that. Sorry.
That is a beautiful model but what I like about the Hololive models is how dopey they can get. I'm convinced that a decent chunk of Pekora's international popularity comes just from how dumb her model can look at times.

>whoever the fuck told you this is a fucking retard
Well, one of them DID have a model with an ahegao hoodie so...

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>>10663223
who are the other 2 you're talking about?

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>>10697516
I forgot the loli's name, only remember that her color scheme was pink with green, but the crossdressing beyblader was Tsukishita Kaoru.

[Anonymous No.]

tried going to previous threads but couldn't find anything, what was the advice on a paypal business profile? don't use your real name or something? seems like you have to put a legit address for tax reasons

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>>10693669
>advice for when you stream for a hispanic audience
Easy: you don't.
>>10681749
I'm not that anon but my plan is to have lore and ue it for situations like the ones you listed. I feel kayfabe adds some charm to it all but not going overboard.
The best advice on lore/kayfabe I feel comes from a YT comment I spotted on a video. If you can't act/keep the kayfabe then don't bother with it and just be yourself.

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>>10700520
What if you are... *lightning* hispanic?

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>>10700412
you're required to use your legal name when you set up a business account. it's for legal purpose and paypal will go after you if you try to fake it. but your name will never be shared on any invoice or transaction. just your business name. address can be replaced with a post office box for safety.

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>>10684770
You sound like BMO from adventure time. A pleasant cute asian-ish accent. It's charming and im sure if you get something nice looking you'll do well.

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>>10700412
just use the options that twitch have and streamelements without paypal if you have enough followers for that option

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>>10696691
>buying upvotes, likes and retweets
Beri and lobster haven't done this, I don't know who keeps on pushing this rrat. They spent a lot of money on their models, sure, but people like KK and Maroony have also spent shit tons yet no one cares?

This late into the game, "making it" is insanely difficult because there's already so many established chuubas, and there's the fact that everyones back to work and school. COVID and the novelty of vtubing worked in favor for those who started in 2020 and Q1 of 2021. Nowadays, even people with $2k IV rigs and $2k models are having a hard time getting viewers unless they hardcore clout leech or are already famous from a past life. If you're getting into Vtubing this late with the expectation of getting famous, you're an actual idiot.

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>>10701365
Fine, I’ll go lie and die now, you’ve convinced me.

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>>10696477
>think that the closest I have to that is thinking that they have the best-looking models in the industry and wanting to have a model that works similarly to theirs

Indies and Live2D newbies consistently have better models. They've got great choice in character design (most of the time) but their riggers are absolutely bottom of the barrel garbage.

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>>10701365
>2k+ upvotes with only 5 comments on a subreddit that barely gets 200 on an indie post

>they didn't buy upvotes, but even if they did, who cares, it's so difficult to break out anyway!
sure anon, sure

[Anonymous No.]

>People start to draw fanart of you of their own volition instead of having to commission randos on Skeb
One day, we gone get it one day

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>>10701365
>If you're getting into Vtubing this late with the expectation of getting famous, you're an actual idiot.

I'll show you, anon.

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>>10701365
>If you're getting into Vtubing this late with the expectation of getting famous
...tweet some passive aggressive incel shit and everyone will post selfies to own you and you'll become famous overnight. your audience will be a ton of similar incels who won't watch you, but at least you'll have some fame.

[Anonymous No.]

Are spic /asp/ies truly DOOMed due to Wactor or that's just their inferiority complex talking again?

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>>10703745
>DOOMed due to Wactor
are western indies doomed due to VShojo? what even is this question?

[Anonymous No.]

>at least two of the channels I'm subscribed to are talking about staying away from social media
>exactly the day it was planning to start building a test model
Is God talking to me?

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>>10703845
You tell me. I hear them saying that all the time.

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>>10704000
>I hear them saying that all the time.
got a source? because this sounds like complete bs, i've never seen /asp/ies talk about WACTOR outside of auditions once, much less bitching about being doomed by them.

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>>10703047
What reddit post are you even talking about dude. Link it?
>>10703283
Not saying that its impossible, but going into it expecting fame (as a new chuuba with no connections) is setting yourself up for disappointment with how saturated and competitive the scene is. Good luck either way though, anon.
>>10703393
I mean thats one way to do it

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>>10703745
I think its the inferiority complex hitting again tho.
I think the time and effort of anybody that chooses be a chuuba are going to talk about the results. Being those any type of success or enjoyment they could achieve.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the next game trend to hop on? BF2042 beta?

[Anonymous No.]

should i stream on youtube or twitch?

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>>10706470
multi stream to both and see which one you have more success with.

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>>10704057
I don't really engage much with anyone in that community, or in general, but I heard of it in a video on how to be a vtuber.
If there are enough people complaining about Wactor taking over to warrant people commenting on it I can only guess there's a bunch of them.

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>>10710923
>If there are enough people complaining about Wactor taking over to warrant people commenting on it I can only guess there's a bunch of them.
but that's the thing. i've never seen people complaining about WACTOR. you're coming in here saying "people" are complaining about without any evidence and then claiming there must be some issue because these mysterious "people" are complaining about it. you're making up stuff to suggest something that's not happening.

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>>10711028
Do you mean here or in other places?

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>>10711164
i don't really care from where, i just want to see a citation for this supposedly widespread complaint of WACTOR that supposedly exists

[Anonymous No.]

I had another chuuba call me out in tonight's stream about the category I used - I went live in Retro, despite the game I was playing having it's own category on Twitch.

Do you tend to stream in Retro, or the specific game, or does it depend on the category size?

Tonight, I would've been the only one in the specific game, but it's only got ~2k followers, and nobody else was live. In retro, I was ~30th, but it's got 9.3k followers

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>>10712458
>Tonight, I would've been the only one in the specific game, but it's only got ~2k followers, and nobody else was live. In retro, I was ~30th, but it's got 9.3k followers
it really does not matter. the number of viewers who "follow" a category and go out of their way to check out chuubas streaming in it is so tiny that there's only a negligible effect.

by default you want to pick Retro. in the same way that everyone streaming table top games will want to stream using "DnD" because it's the more commonly searched term and more populated overall, giving you better chances of getting seen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10712567
how do those categories even work? im a viewer and i have no idea what they do and i would not be surprised if others have this problem too

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>>10712799
it just puts your stream into that category. for example, here's what Retro looks like right now sorted by recommendations to your viewer account.
https://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Retro?sort=RELEVANCE

it uses things like tags that the chuubas use, tags that other similar chuubas that you and viewers like you use, location, language, time, and a whole bunch of algorithm shit to try and push a chuuba's stream out to viewers who may want to watch. remember that twitch's entire business model revolves around monetizing the viewer experience, so it's in twitch's best interest to try and push you a viewer that they believe you'd be willing to sit and watch ads through and eventually sub and donate to.

for the chuuba, that means you should be properly using the right tags as necessary. some tags like ADHD, LGBTQIA, Depression, are meme tags and are so overused that they do very little in the algorithm. but other tags like Voice Acting, Endurance Training and Acheivement Hunting have better chances of you getting pushed out to those relevant viewers. basically, as a chuuba, you want to use as many tags that describe your actual content, as well as putting yourself in the appropriate category. the more you help the algorthim, the more it can help find the right viewers for you. if you spam a bunch of useless tags, it hurts your chuuba algorithm so don't do it.

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>>10700565
You stay ESL and charge people every time they want you to talk in Spanish. You know well those motherfuckers won't shell it if they get it for free.
t. hispanic

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>>10713109
I use English, Vtuber, and Neurological Condition (I'm diagnosed, and it does impact both my ability in game, and my ability to stream). I also typically use either First Playthrough or Achievement Hunting; although older Steam games don't have any chivos to get.

Is it worth dropping NC and just sticking something in the about instead, do you think? I'm technically disabled, but pass as normal most of the time.

[Anonymous No.]

doing the layers for your live2d model is never not going to be uncomfortable, jesus

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>>10713417
>Is it worth dropping NC and just sticking something in the about instead, do you think? I'm technically disabled, but pass as normal most of the time.
the thing is that Twitch genuinely cannot tell. tags are freely used and many are abused willy nilly by streamers with completely ruins their use in the algorithm. the question you should really ask is "what does this add to my stream?" and "what does this add for my viewers?" and do your viewers really give a fuck if you "pass as normal most of the time"? is that what they're really clicking on your thumbnail and joining your channel for?

think about the type of people who would go search for the NC tag. search for chuubas currently using the NC tag. ask yourself if those are the type of audience you want to pull in and be associated with. likewise, you can see very easily why some tags like LGTB and others are really useless.

Acheivement Hunting is a very good tag because there is a very well established audience of viewers who love seeing achivement hunters. First Playthrough is really a mixed bag and often useless especially as new games get released. there's like 25 chuubas streaming Diablo II: Resurrected under the "first playthrough" tag. what does that add for a new viewer who is checking it out?

utlimately, viewers that find your stream through these tags are an incredibly small portion. i've been streaming for 4 months and maybe got 20 viewers over the entire time specifically from these tags. they've almost always come from the game name itself rather than the tags.

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>>10713109
interesting. thanks for the reply

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

I've got beginner's proficiency in russian. Is it worth studying/practicing more and incorporating into streams? I feel like the EN/RUS link is basically untapped. Or is it better to just focus on content etc, idk

[Anonymous No.]

>>10726773
Anime girl learning a language is stream material in on itself. Up to you if you want to get some RUS into your streams, be showing your learning process or doing it on your own.Pippa?

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>>10726773
You could make Russian phrases a points redeem once you hit affiliate. Could be fun!

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>>10726773
Why not. It sounds like a good way to make yourself more unique.
Who knows, it might blow up. Or it might not.
Just have fun trying out new things and see where it goes!

[Anonymous No.]

i was thinking about Yaxie's graduation. and the kind of mark it left on the viewers. both for Yaxie's fans and for outsiders. i wonder what my graduation will be like.

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>>10730948
This is something I've thought about. Not that I've been streaming for that long, but obviously, nothing lasts forever. I think Coco gave us the template for a positive graduation, and I can only hope that I'd be able to share smiles with my viewers until the very end.

[Anonymous No.]

How much of a debuff would the game and the stream being in different languages be? I want to stream csgo, would it be too annoying hearing the constant switch of addressing teammates in portuguese and chat in english?

[Anonymous No.]

When using a capture card, I need a splitter if I want to play a game through a monitor and not just through OBS, right? Is there anything specific I should look for or will anything do?

[Anonymous No.]

bumpu

[Anonymous No.]

can i be successful without collaborating with any other streamer?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10589273
>Multistream to both.
you know you get banned if you do this right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10735075
you don't have to collab, but networking is really important

[Anonymous No.]

>>10735075
Which other vtubers or streamers in general do you see who are successful and don't collaborate with any other streamers

[Anonymous No.]

>>10735075
Not outright collab but networking is important

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>>10726773
You can do that if you want to earn nothing but 3$ max off donos and 0.34cents off their subs.
T. EnRu vchuba.

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bump
>>>/trash/42080162

[Anonymous No.]

I made a thread about it yesterday, but will ask here too, why doesn't /vt/ start its own agency?

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>>10745591
too much commitment/money and not many want to be attached to this place

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>>10745591
what would be the point?

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>>10745591
Very little benefit, and it's doubtful that anyone here has the resources, connections, and networking skills to make it worthwhile.

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>>10735127
Only if you are affiliate on twitch, or if you're monetized on YouTube. If you're just starting out there's no reason to not multistream.

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>>10745591
i would instead ask why so many small vtubers think that being tied to something like this is a good idea.

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>>10746581
>why so many small vtubers think that being tied to something like this is a good idea.
only a tiny handful of chuubas think that way. everything else is manager larping. most vtubers don't go around openly announcing that they are connected to 4chan

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>>10746690
maybe they just are more visible on twitter then. seen people apply to literally anything that has applications open without doing any kind of research first. i would never apply to some unknown vtuber agency blindly

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>>10746784
>more visible on twitter then
the twitter algorithm pushes people who like, comment, retweet, post etc the same way you do. so if you're seeing lots of 4chan chuubas, that means the algorithm has identified your account as one that likes and interacts with 4chan chuubas. the envtuber audience on twitter at large almost never interact with 4chan vtubers or even see them on their timelines.

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>>10746830
its pretty fucked up for me. i keep getting flooded with those annoying networking and art giveaway threads and i never interact with them. sometimes i even click the not interested and not relevant as an attempt to tell the algo that it fucked up but it is not helping much

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>>10746947
>i keep getting flooded with those annoying networking and art giveaway threads and i never interact with them.
mute, block, or unfollow those accounts, it's not that hard.
> i even click the not interested and not relevant
this only applies to topics and never works for accounts. and twitter makes it impossible to filter out topics using this because they're in the business of making money off it. they're just ads.

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>>10747000
i see. thanks for explaining. im not really a twitter user so i don't know much about these things

[Anonymous No.]

I did another vtuber dive. Here are my results:

https://www.twitch.tv/toki_tomoyasu
Cute accent, vroid male. Unfortunately, his accent (german? scandi?) was too difficult for me to understand. 480 follows, 15~20 viewer range, seemed to have an audience that he could interact with. Playing Cry of Fear, a great spooktober game. Stuck around for five minutes but with the accent wall I didn't have reason to stick around. Potential GMI chance.

https://www.twitch.tv/pumpk1nsp1ce
Live2D deer female, playing Silent Hill 2. 1.1k follows, 15~20 viewers. Big normalfag energy, which turned me off. Good game choice, if popular. I didn't stay around long enough to get a good read, but she seems like she'll have no issues inclining if she puts in the work. Good GMI chance.

https://www.twitch.tv/velvetremedy__
Vroid png(?), female. 1.9k followers, 10~12 viewer range. Playing Metro 2033. Hardly talks, hard to hear over game, and TTS seems to be common with her chat. No real reason to watch. NGMI.

https://www.twitch.tv/mynaras
Vroid, male. 86 followers, 7~10 viewer range. Playing SMW Kaizo romhacks. Highly knowledgeable of tech hardware, at least phones, and quite capable of talking at length about them in an entertaining manner. Does not get angry on stream while playing Kaizo. Good chat interaction, little dead air. High-energy celebration after beating the romhack which had good energy. Stuck around until the end of stream and followed. High GMI chance if he does his social media reps.

https://www.twitch.tv/parakeet92_
Vroid, female. 232 Followers, 16~22 viewer range after raid. Pleasant voice, talking about getting a leapmotion and the issues she's run into with it. Just Chatting, so constant audience engagement is expected, and she delivers. Fine background noise, but without a video game, there's not much for me to pay attention to, so I don't feel qualified to say if she's GMI.

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>>10750608
Does anyone have some document that compiles a list of small vtubers?

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>>10751000
I just used the twitch directory with english and vtuber https://www.twitch.tv/directory/all/tags/52d7e4cc-633d-46f5-818c-bb59102d9549 and sorted high to low then scrolled down far enough to hit the sub-30 views.

[Anonymous No.]

Bump

[Anonymous No.]

I hate networking in the vtuber community. It feels so fake and just overall annoying.
For example, one of my mutuals who I actually wanted to befriend doesn't talk to me because someone she knows "has drama with me". Have no idea who it is since I barely talk to anyone.
Not only that, but a chuuba who is growing super fast now and is building an active fanbase has asked me privately twice to shill them (when they were smaller). This was the only significant interaction between us. Now they don't ever reach out to me because they're piggybacking off of chuubas bigger than me LMAO.
Sorry for the blogpost but these interactions along with the weekly drama in the community really leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10754450
realize that 80% of the chuubas you interact with will be younger than 25 years old so they're all undergrads chasing drama. set appropriate boundaries as you need them. i've had several other vtubers on twitter DMing me asking to take their sides in drama or to shill on posts and crap. i told them i don't get involved and that it's a boundary i will not cross. most have been understanding, but the ones that throw a fit i warn that i'll stop engaging with if they keep being a little bitch about it.

you have to realize that everyone really just wants to grow and most of them are socially incompetent and don't know how to do it without being clout chasing faggots. find the good ones and surround yourself with them, ignore the bad ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10754450
I have the opposite problem, feel too scared to reach out to any chubba i watch, regardless of size (Even use an alt for Twitch chat and YouTube comments because i feel that if i use my main i'd be ninja-spamming)

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>>10754450
>read this
>remember how i often end up mediating between people irl because i had to and that i have actually gotten results from it
I guess I'll have to walk the path of the hermit just to be sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10754628
id say the majority of people who are into vtuber culture or become vtubers themselves are socially inept or are menhera

im saying this as someone who frequents the low view indies on twitch. The ones who do eventually find success are way less cringe, or at least they hide it well and dont engage in psychotic behavior on twitter

[Anonymous No.]

>>10750608
are you sure? few thousand followers and ~20 viewers is where most seem to get stuck

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>>10756326
Just my uninformed opinion based on five or so minutes of watching a single one of her streams. Maybe she'll always be a hopeless 20viewer, maybe she'll get lucky without having to change anything, maybe she doesn't even care much about getting more people watching her streams. I didn't ask her what she wanted or what she thought she could do better. Just "can I see myself or others sticking around?" and "could they do better?"

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>>10756326
>few thousand followers and ~20 viewers is where most seem to get stuck
this is where talent stops.

just being an entertaining streamer doesn't cut it in 2021. you need to market. doesn't matter how good you are if people don't know you. whether or not a chuuba is able to recognize this and start advertising themselves appropriately will make or break their career. there are multiple dozens of chuubas who sit at those numbers and never grow because they just do the same thing every day but never market.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10756543
>you need to market. doesn't matter how good you are if people don't know you.

Luckily, it also doesn't matter how bad you are as long as you aren't terrible. How many boring, placid streamers have you seen with a lot of viewers? They've likely got very good networking and shilling skills and are able to push their content to multiple places.

Think of your content as a trap or net. The bigger the net, the bigger potential there is to catch more fish. Connections (friends, peers, etc), social media reps, clips/highlights/memes, all these things are woven to make your net bigger. Even if you arent that great, if 3000 people see your content in one form or another even if you only retain a small percentage, it's more potential viewers than if only 300 saw it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10746581
because plenty selfpost in /wvt/ with obvious connections to who they are and nothing bad has ever happened to any of them and nothing bad will ever happen. there is no boogeyman. no one will come and get you for being a 4chan vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

>>10756750
nothing's stopping you. make >us seethe in jealousy as you start the most successful western vtuber agency from 4chan and >we all miss out on it

[Anonymous No.]

>>10756750
thats not what i was thinking about. i was wondering why you would want to belong to an agency that might even take a cut of your income when you could just be independent. if you have the skills to make content and do the networking crap then there should be no need for those

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>>10757026
anon is manager larping and wants to take a cut of chuuba's revenue without doing any work. it's the same timeloop every other month

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>>10757026


>if you have the skills to make content and do the networking crap then there should be no need for those

nta but do you think most people have this? No offense, but you probably don't even have this. yeahyou can do your networking reps and whatnot just fine, but orgs, even small ones, are an immediate fast track and more often than not the EN ones allow you an "out" should you choose to leave later on for something reasonable. there's plenty of people who are 2views that'd immediately do well simply because they're in an org.

"just network and make content 4head" isn't the end all be all and that should be obvious by now, you won't make it just because you're shilling yourself everywhere and pumping out videos, you need to bring something to the table to catch people's eye.

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>>10757713
>"just network and make content 4head" isn't the end all be all and that should be obvious by now, you won't make it just because you're shilling yourself everywhere and pumping out videos, you need to bring something to the table to catch people's eye.
what the fuck are you even talking about?
all you literally need to do is make content and advertise. you don't need a gimmick, most gimmicks end up becoming sidelined very quickly anyway because gimmicks don't last, good content does.

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>>10757713
only if its an established one. why do you think that some literally who tier company that some random started would help? you need a known brand and lots of promotion which would require lots of time and/or money to do

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>>10757895
not saying you need a gimmick, you need to give people a reason to watch you besides "I have some content and post my clips on youtube!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>10757904
What "known brand" did Tsunderia, Phase, Prism, or Cyberlive have? VShojo was the only one with any of that and they didn't even "create" any vtubers, they worked more as a hiring agency.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10758031
>you need to give people a reason to watch you besides "I have some content and post my clips on youtube!"
this is some retarded take from a ngmi who is looking to blame external factors of a mysterious "some reason besides content" to cope with their lack of success.

[Anonymous No.]

Speaking of networking, how do you guys learn your platforms/build an audience on socials? Speaking as someone who has historically avoided twitter/reddit/etc as much as possible. I personally have no interest in keeping up with people on Twitter so I have no idea what that audience is even looking for

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>>10758261
>I personally have no interest in keeping up with people on Twitter
good thing that using twitter as a platform to network is completely separate from using twitter to "keep up with people" read the OP, take a course in digital online marketing from the google garage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10758230
if "I stream and post clips on Youtube" is enough then why isn't every 2view who does that inclining? you need actual skill and entertainment value. i dont get why people think "ill just throw my shit to the void and tell people about it" is enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>10758261
You're looking to begin a hobby that heavily involves networking and collaboration (not necessarily collab streams) with other people but have no interest in social media? Clip and highlight your best content and hope that the algorithm on Youtube picks it up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10758515
>if "I stream and post clips on Youtube" is enough then why isn't every 2view who does that inclining?
because you made a shitty argument by conveniently leaving out the "Network" part of "Make Content and Network"

>you need actual skill and entertainment value.
you do not. you do not, at all. the fact that you are


>i dont get why people think "ill just throw my shit to the void and tell people about it" is enough
unable to even define what "actual skill" and "entertainment value" are is proof already.
that's not networking. just throwing a png on twitter isn't networking. no wonder you think networking doesn't work if that's what your perceived idea of networking is.

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>>10758642
>the fact that you are
the fact that you are unable to define exactly what "actual skill" means or what "entertainment value" means is more than enough proof that you don't need those. i'll wait for you to give me a definition beyond your subjective "i know it when i see it"

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>>10758642
>>10758691
are you two going to have sex next or what

[Anonymous No.]

>>10758735
look at the timestamp anon, it's just me posting. how new are you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10758796
yeah, im talking to you, why are you doublepost raging over what your lover is saying above? just have sex already

[Anonymous No.]

>>10758691
NTA but being "entertaining" is subjective. Most ENVtuber viewers from what I can tell of just the top vtubers (aside from those who moved their content such as Bahroo or Vienna) I see at any given time just like lewd jokes, the same few voices with a slightly different flavor, the same energetic personality, and and the occasional person with actual talent like HalO Sweetie.

Assuming anon means these traits (which I doubt), they're right in the sense that not many people have it to that extent. I see a lot of vtubers who can sing extremely well but can't seem to get any viewers even with their covers posted everywhere and people saying how good they are, so clearly it takes more than just having a honed talent. I think the ability to be entertaining to the general audience by being fairly similar to everyone else and being lucky enough to have your shilling noticed is probably the best bet, but that's just from looking at what's worked for people over the last year or so.

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>>10759302
>more cope
>more blaming external factors
okay anon, you and that """other""" anon are right. this mysterious and undefinable thing beyond being consistent and proper networking is needed to succeed as a content creator. wait, no, apparently this only applies to vtubers.

every /asp/ie should give up right now if you look at yourself and realize that you don't have this mysterious undefined thing. creating content consistently doesn't mean anything despite the fact that literally all of the successful vtubers right now have done just that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10759768
I can't even tell what you are all arguing anymore.

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>>10759821
>make content
>network appropriately
you don't need more than these two to succeed as a vtuber. most can't even do the first. and those who can fail at the second.

anons are coming in here saying that there's some mysterious third thing that exists but they refuse to define that actually determines success or failure. i'm just pointing out that it's retarded to blame an undefineable external thing as the reason for whether you make it or not.

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>>10759768
What are you even on, man? I never said anything was undefinable, I just said a lot of the bigger chuubas or streamers in general if you want to get into that are all pretty similar. They follow similar formats for content, similar everything. I'm agreeing with you that you don't have to be special at all to get big. Entertainment is subjective but most of these people just appeal to a wide audience of viewers even non-vtubers.

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>>10760060
he has a PHD in vtubing and has to let you know exactly why you are factually wrong because you aren't being explicit and detail-oriented like he is

get on his level anon, he clearly has the biggest e-peen on this platform

[Anonymous No.]

>>10760977
wonder how many viewers he has

[Anonymous No.]

>>10760977
>>10761007
wonder how many viewers you two have

[Anonymous No.]

>>10761023
>>10760977
>>10761007
wonder how many viewers you three have

[Anonymous No.]

>>10760977
>>10761007
>>10761023
>>10761068
all four of you. post numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>10761093
>>10761068
>>10761023
>>10761007
>>10760977
all five of you. numbers now

[Anonymous No.]

Memes aside, when someone asks for numbers to be posted, what are they looking for? Just a screencap from Twitch dashboard or do you want a SullyGnome or TwitchTracker stats? Which one is more accurate of the two?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10761007
The guy probably doesn't even stream.

[Anonymous No.]

Not everyone in here streams, I don't stream myself and I post here a lot

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>>10761262
>>10761233
no one here streams. everyone is just chuuba larping or manager larping. and even if they did stream, they're not going to post since being associated with 4chan is a good way to never grow and attract schizos in chat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10761205
For as long as I've been here no one actually posts their numbers lol. It's just baseless shit-talking, regardless of if you post something or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10761327
actually true, only ones I know from here that do stream are bloom and that australian bunny

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>>10761327
>being associated with 4chan is a good way to never grow

Krimbo
Arypie
Pippa
Corpse
Shimada Tiger
Seep
Lily Hops
Airi
Koopa

These are just the ones off the top of my head who are all doing well. Why do people think there's some anti 4chan boogeyman that's going to keep you from growing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10761476
Nyanners
Ironmouse
Leaflit
Lumi (strategy one)
etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10761476
krimbo
>extremely good at networking, skilled artist who pulls in a large normie crowd off twitter
arypie
>probably one of the few that actually work here
Pippa
>joined with an indie agency and stopped open connection with 4chan. most of her viewers wouldn't know she's from 4chan in the past outside of just generic edgy internet memelord.
Corpse
>doing well
Shimada
>doing well
Seep
>doing well
Lily Hops
>also not openly connected to 4chan, community is filled with groomers trying not to rat each other out for being pedophiles, same shit with /yah/
Airi
>doing well
Koopa
>has distanced herself from 4chan over time

[Anonymous No.]

>>10758582
Don't limit yourself to just Youtube. Tiktok, Twitter, and Reddit all have content pushing algorithms. Posting to all of them increases your chances of getting picked up by that site's algorithm, increasing the number of people seeing your stuff

[Anonymous No.]

Would anyone here be interested in letting me draw and rig a model for them for cheap?

I want to be an art tuber so I'll need stuff to practice on, asking first so that I can gauge interest.

[Anonymous No.]

how do I design clothes for my model

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>>10764588
Like in general? Just look up various fashion subcultures (streetwear, techwear, etc) and copy a fit you think looks good. Also check out @wisdm8 on tiktok, he has a lot of really cool out there outfit ideas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637874
I did a test stream of DMC5 and found out that I can stream 60 fps if I drop the settings all the way down to 800x600.
I haven't streamed recently cause I enrolled in my term late so I've been catching up on shit. Hopefully this week I can get around to doing stream reps.

My first goal is to hit 50 followers and do a scuffed karaoke stream. Currently at 11 and I'm planning on setting up a stream widget for that goal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10764588
Remember that all that’s gonna be on the screen most of the time is head-to-chest and that you don’t want to take up too much space, and from there just look around at fashion magazines/manga/video games/whatever until you find some stuff that looks cool.

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>>10761567
none of these people are "associated with 4chan" anymore in any way beyond "browsed this site over a decade ago", and in fact nyanners' early youtube career is a prime example why associating yourself with this place is a disaster waiting to happen

[Anonymous No.]

>>10766533
Leaflit and Lumi both selfpost in the trashbin and Nyanners and Ironmouse are known to lurk /pmg/
>>10761453
a lot of the people from /asp/ that stream now just don't openly selfpost in /asp/ anymore and have moved to /wvt/
i believe callie, nelson, teruteru, bloom, elliott, atropa, pommemade, and wise have all selfposted here before and now just post in /wvt/
>>10761327
you already responded to another list but i'd like to also point out in regards to partnered chuubas that leaflit and maroony post every now and then and i'm pretty sure yozo and little_s have also posted and still probably lurk here
in terms of non-partnered but still pulling in numbers there's AriaRinChan, Meat, and Coqui

[Anonymous No.]

>>10761381
>>10761205
there have been moments where people share their numbers but usually its in response to things like "how are you doing with streams now?" and not "dickwave your numbers before you give any advice"
i believe shimada and yozo also shared their numbers without stating that its them but when you're at that point its pretty easy to figure out

[Anonymous No.]

>>10766850
I still lurk this thread and post here when people have specific singing questions.

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>>10761205
>Memes aside, when someone asks for numbers to be posted, what are they looking for?
since no one has answered this directly. average viewers. both sullygnome and twitchtracker show off average viewers in a nice graph. if your numbers are larger than the other anons, it'll get them to shut up pretty quick

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>>10761696
Maybe. Portfolio/previous work?

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>>10766533
>disaster waiting to happen
What? A few retards are upset and you set on your ivory throne making tens of thousands of dollars a month while your obsessed detractors struggle to make that much in a year? Sounds like she's living the life.

Lumi browses plenty though, that's obvious from the references she makes to some of the cyberlive threads on stream. The others listed above that are still plenty successful so you're still a retard for worrying about the anti-4chan boogeyman

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>>10768654
>A few retards are upset and you set on your ivory throne making tens of thousands of dollars a month
no western vtuber earn this much. if you have to exaggerate this much to try and make a point, you should realize you're being a retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10768718
>no western vtuber earn this much
are you excluding HoloEN from this because i'm pretty sure gura and mori both have made over 10k in just the past week

[Anonymous No.]

>>10768932
citations needed

[Anonymous No.]

>>10768718
>no western vtuber earn this much


All of VShojo has thousands of subs on Twitch which equates to a MINIMUM of 2.35 dollars per sub. Veibae I think has 6k at any given moment and I've seen Iron Mouse at 8k without a subathon or event even going on.

6000*2.35=14,000 just to use Veibae's as an example (Nyanners is higher). Now count in bits (which streamers get 100% of) and cash donations. I don't think they have many sponsors so that's not much of an issue.

You're a complete newfag to streaming as a whole if you don't realize how this shit works. Learn to shut your mouth or ask questions before you make yourself look like a moron

>>10768990
Corpos are a bit harder to tell because we don't know their take, but Gura's superchat revenue (not counting ad revenue, paypal donations, and Membership money) is 10k USD over the last 7 days. Citation given.

https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCoSrY_IQQVpmIRZ9Xf-y93g

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>>10768990
Mori: https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCL_qhgtOy0dy1Agp8vkySQg
Gura:
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCoSrY_IQQVpmIRZ9Xf-y93g
Kiara has also made 8.2k: https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCHsx4Hqa-1ORjQTh9TYDhww
its been a while since I've talked about how Hololive earnings work but I think it was like, they end up taking 30% of their ad rev after YT and Hololive both take 35%
Going by the 7 day average, 30% of 8k would be 2.4k or about 9.6k in 28 days if it trends the same way
we could also use the monthly earnings; mori's 1,000,000 SC earnings ends up averaging to 25k a month when you account for her only taking home 30% of that cut; gura's 790k SC earnings converts to a bit over 19k per month, and then i realized doing these calcs that i should actually be doing total earnings over 13 months so taking kiara's 870k earnings totals to about 20k per month after the cuts

[Anonymous No.]

>>10769353
cool story, now show me where Gura and Calli come from 4chan and openly talk about their connections to 4chan

[Anonymous No.]

>>10769579
Don't move the goalpost please. "No western vtuber earns this much" was the claim. You were proven wrong now kindly seethe because you've realized these girls are making bank

[Anonymous No.]

>>10768718
>no western vtuber earn this much
it must be nice living in this bubble

[Anonymous No.]

>>10769656
>Don't move the goalpost please
no goalposts were moved. neither Gura nor Calli were mentioned in the list of western chuubas above. you just came in here with corpos.

so to avoid moving goalposts, please point to where they talked about their connection to 4chan, or you're talking about unrelated chuubas to the discussion. since the entire point is about chuubas who openly have connections to 4chan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10769579
you literally only said
>no western vtuber earn this much
you didn't say "no western vtuber on 4chan earns this much" so that's pretty irrelevant
also i wouldn't say that selfposting here or in the trashbin is the same as "openly talking about your connection to 4chan"
besides, >>10769291 already brought up vshojo and they've literally selfposted in their own threads in the past; there's screenshots of vei and silvervale discord dms talking about /pmg/

[Anonymous No.]

>>10769774
The claim was
>no western vtuber earn this much
not
>>no western vtuber who talks about 4chan earns this much

The fact you replied to me talking about Nyanners making a bunch of money shows that you knew exactly what I meant and you just didn't know you were wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>/asp/ turns into a numbers thread after holobronies show up
this is why no one likes your thread. at least terumi was smart enough to leave this place entirely after debuting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10770355
You have got to have a better comparison to use. Terumi fucked herself and probably wouldn't have had she stayed here and kept taking her own advice. Instead she fucked over her whole dream and no one will ever want her

[Anonymous No.]

>>10770355
>was smart enough to leave this place entirely after debuting
lol
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

until you get to 50 consistent concurrent viewers, talking about anything else is a waste of time. you can't even reach a vtweeter's numbers like Finana so get there before you worry about shit like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10761119
3. 2 on a good day

[Anonymous No.]

>Watching more popular vtubers to get an idea of what I should be doing
>They're all filling dead air with chat interaction
>Meanwhile my chat is dry af, have to be a one man show the whole time
Lol oh well, I'll get there eventually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10770567
What did Terumi do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10775202
>>They're all filling dead air with chat interaction
>>Meanwhile my chat is dry af
you think Gura is reading each individual message? she asks a question, chat is a flood of yes or no and she just bounces off that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10775354
The difference is that every single word gura says has a response, a small chuuba doesn't have that and the one-man show thing is hard, that's all. It's doable but you can't really act like Gura has it as bad as us, big streamers all play off their chat too despite some having even more viewers that Gura, they still manage to pick comments from chat to go off of

[Anonymous No.]

>>10775662
the reality of this is that it's only a problem when you're just starting off. there's no real other advice beyond "just wing it and zatsudan the entire time" once you get past 20 actual viewers, you're gonna have one or two regulars who help keep things moving. but there's nothing you can do other than grind it out and keep practicing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10772857
I wanna know Finana's tactics to get a decent audience as a fucking vtweeter

[Anonymous No.]

>>10777730
I know it isn't the norm, but I love when vtweeters succeed because it forces people to think that maybe there is an alternate path, they're just not good enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>10775662
i guess that this is why the /here/ chuubas are usually in each others chats. even if its not announced as such its technically a from of collab since they are helping keep the chat alive

[Anonymous No.]

Is this my incline starting, aspies?

Only done one stream in October, but six hours long, and a childhood favourite game. Apparently it was much more popular than my normal crap

[Anonymous No.]

>>10777928
If it would be one thing, I think it'd be her communication and connection skills

[Anonymous No.]

>>10778986
take every advantage of theming, holiday hype, and special events you can to grow. october is a great opportunity to get a lot of viewers with the spooky theme.

[Anonymous No.]

Just got done with a super satisfying stream, I felt like I was able to fill most oncoming dead air, had TONS of fun, had a somewhat active chat and apparently a good bump in average viewers.
I have a good few regulars that tend to stick around, but I find it a bit difficult to reach out to new people consistently. I'm planning on doing more networking now, but I'm wondering if the games I'm choosing are holding me back at all. Should I try some semi-popular titles? Which ones are fun, but also good for growth?
I'm not too concerned with some categories being too over-saturated, since my regulars tend to bump me up enough rows to help me a little. I find when I play in less populated categories, I get less average viewers (possibly because there's less people actively looking to watch those games? I'm not sure).

Sorry if this is pretty jumbled. My stream went on for a lot longer than I intended and I'm a bit tired and reflecting on it. To add, I'm not too obsessed with numbers, but I would like to turn this into a part-time one day, so I am still concerned with the growth of my community alongside my performance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10779520
are people really getting into this with expectations of it being able to replace their job? i can't believe that there is any other reason to worry so much about growth if you are already having fun

[Anonymous No.]

>>10779520
>Semi-popular games
Find a niche, and then exploit it. I'm currently playing through some old strategy games from my childhood, and seeing good growth there. So I'll play the rest of the series, and then switch into something similar in the rotation.
WRT your games holding you back, and I cannot stress this enough, you need to be tracking your stats. Whether you just use Sullygnome, or record it and do some extra analysis I do a VERY simple average viewer/follower check, and then some other stuff that's not worth going into. For instance, I've seen if I stream Skyrim mid-week, I have terrible stats. Friday or Monday though, it's almost double AV. So I now don't stream Skyrim on Tues=>Thurs.

>part-time
Gotta be honest, this is mostly just hoping to be a self-sustaining hobby, rather than a job. I pulled a R:SL sponsorship, which has covered everything, and given me some cash for an upgrade to emotes/overlays

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>>10779895
I don't have the expectation of it replacing a job, I just mentioned I would like to do it part-time, just for some extra income. It's not meant to pay the bills. It's a really fun hobby for me, but I do want to strive to improve in it. I can't even monetize my streams at all currently due to the current situation I'm in, and I've been streaming for a bit over a year now without that monetization.
Self-improvement and community growth is part of the fun for me, and I don't want to stagnate in a hobby I like to take somewhat seriously. It's something I can invest effort into and that makes me feel good. Isn't it natural to want to grow and improve?

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>>10779895
>are people really getting into this with expectations of it being able to replace their job
Maybe not, but if it starts to look like it could happen then obviously you should work towards it a bit more. I'm sure none of the streamers who now have it as their primary source of income got into it with that thought nor did they expect it to happen.

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>>10780147
Maybe I should experiment with my days more once I'm done with this semester of uni, thanks for the advice! Right now I'm a tight on when I can stream due to my school schedule, but I'm definitely going to keep that in mind.
I'm a variety streamer at heart, but I've began forming somewhat of a niche when I started streaming persona games. I plan to dive into SMT next, and I have some regulars who are really hyped for that. Most people who came into chat have stuck around even when I'm playing other games, which is nice.

I'm lucky enough that I've been able to make most of my assets. Having extra money to put into the stream (for the stuff I can't make or things I'd need to buy) and also get myself something nice here and there would be amazing though.

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>>10780234
it just feels like most new people get into this with expectations of becoming the next gura or something while putting barely any effort into it

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>>10780445
>Experiment with days
I don't mean switch from streaming M/T/Th to W/Sa/Su; but check which games do well on which days, and which times.

I've tried gorilla streams a few times, and if they're my normal timeslot, but a different day, they do quite well. If they're much earlier/later, then they do significantly worse, regardless of what I stream.

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>>10780519
I understood what you meant I think, I might just be bad at reaffirming, sorry. I meant it as you just said, but with my schedule I usually play a specific series on one day, another specific series on the other, and I'm usually strictly consistent with that. So by experimenting, I meant changing those days up and seeing what weekdays do better for those games / that demographic. Is that the right approach?
I did experiment with time once, and that was nice since I did better in an afternoon time slot, but school kind of ruined that for me for this fall.