/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Are there any vtubers that genuinely care about their fans? Or do they all just see them as pathetic money dispensers they have to deal with?

[Anonymous No.]

Idk. Superchat Ina about it.

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>>10554239
How can you care about random people in a chat that change every stream? It's impossible.

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>>10554239
People here don't know Mana but she fits, she even tells people to superchat her only if they have desire and spare money to do so, and asks not to throw their last savings away

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>>10554239
korone

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>>10554597
Every chuuba says that bro.

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>>10554389
this probably. But she gets way too much into her job because she's not a professional entertainer like the other girls. I genuinely can't think of anyone else

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Yeah but they're sure as fuck not in Hololive EN and I wouldn't put any expectations on anyone in Hololive to care about thousands of random people either. Some use their viewers for emotional support and will remember your name and that's probably close enough so, uh, learn Japanese and superchat Rushia, I guess.

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>>10554239
I think they all do, to at least some extend. Its pretty damn hard to straight up hate the people who enjoy what you make, or at least supply food on the table.

Any chubba who genuinely hates what they do wouldnt last long, cause whats the point in doing something you hate?

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>>10554828
Wagies do that every day.

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>>10554239
Even If they did they can do nothing about it, same thing the other way around so I guess you either find a middle ground or suffer

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>>10554239
I feel like 2views do to an extent, once a chuuba gets big all bets are off though. Money is too tasty in this life.

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Sometimes 2views care, but once they get too many subscribers it’s quite impossible to care about everyone, at least as individuals

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>>10554239
>do they even care
about as much as we care about the homeless

[Anonymous No.]

any tuber that accepts donations doesn't care about their fans

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elira stalks her chat

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>>10554239
Watame care for her viewers.

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>>10554239
I mean, most of the girls were depressed loners that probably worked a garbage abusive job with minimum wage and suddenly in hololive there are all these people showering you with love, care, affection and money, interacting and joking around with you. Whenever you try new stuff you get tons of reactions to whatever you do, thousands of people supporting your shit... Honestly I think it's very hard not to care and only think of them as money dispensers when they change your life so radically.

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>>10554239
2views might if you show up regularly and actually make them laugh or otherwise enhance the stream / throw money. Someone like pic in OP might if you are a top tier artist or something for her but other than that, probably not.

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>>10554389
lmao. Ina cares about her fans, she's just picky. Makes her based because she's implying that some fans are better than others.

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>newfag doesn't know they exist when they have 10 viewers
>newfag ignores them when they have 200 viewers
>newfag starts watching them when they have 2000 viewers
>sees more and more money roll in and the channel grow
>"They must be in it only for the money!"
>streamer fades, loses viewers but continues streaming
>newfag no longer cares, jumps to another large streamer
>"This one is in it only for the money!"

It's not just vtubers, this pattern has repeated for streamers for more than a decade at this point.

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>all these pathetic anons think they know
lmao

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>>10568846
>does person with a fabricated personality pretending to be an anime character care about someone they know nothing about other than their username
Gee anon doesnt take a fucking rocket scientist.

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my oshi

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>>10554239
They're not mutually exclusive.

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>>10554637
Every streamer says that

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>>10554239
Sana maybe.
She didn’t open her memberships until last because she didn’t think it’d be fair to make her fans pay for no content when she had only a few (2 iirc) days of from the jab.
She also seems to try her hardest to help chat feel like they’re somewhat involved during games, and her superchat reading streams are quite something, it’s almost like having a back and forth convo with a friend.

She spent almost 8 hours reading through all the ones she got from her SC opening stream, right after streaming a pretty difficult few chapters of Celeste.

Say what you will about Sana, but she definitely tries to make whatever fans she has feel good and at home in her streams.

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>>10568223
Wait what? I really don't watch Ina so I don't know if this is true. If it is, what the fuck Ina? You already got your friend in hololive with nepotism shit. Don't make me hate you more.

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>>10554239
>Are there any vtubers that genuinely care about their fans?
My oshi
>see them as pathetic money dispensers they have to deal with?
Your oshi

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>>10554239
Yes but anybody posting on this board has no fucking clue. They exist and there's really no correlation between those kinds of vtubers and popularity, it's rare enough to make each one a unicorn independent of any of extenuating circumstances.
Generally speaking, if there's a vtuber who has put her life on hold(openly admits she won't have a relationship IRL, does/wants to do vtubing full-time even if it means a paycut, etc) and even hurt herself in some way(financially, physically through sleep deprivation or w/e, emotionally through overinvestment in fans opinions to the point of breakdowns, etc), you can be sure they have a dependency on it. That doesn't mean they love their fans, but the only ones I've found that love their fans are also dependent on them.
Generally you also want to do reps as well, as often comparing the person behind the mask to the mask will reveal a lot. How capable they are of acting, lying, etc.
>>10569784
Seeing somebody as a pathetic money dispenser and caring about them are pretty mutually exclusive anon, I'm curious why you think it isn't

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>>10568474
Most of Hololive came into thousands of viewers on debut.

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>>10554239
Kronii disabled her superchat and privatised her Keep Talking stream because she felt that everything was so scuffed that she didn't deserve any money from it.

However, this will likely backfire during her next stream as an inevitable 'potato pc fund' will get started up.

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>>10554239
Most vtubers probably do care about their audience, but if you're in Hololive there is really no way to interact with them in a meaningful way. Pikamee is the biggest vtuber I can think of who seems to genuinely care about a lot of people who follow her, and she admitted to stalking fans a bit on Twitter.

If you want some real 2-way parasocial bond shit take the indiepill, since when you have only 20 or so active chatters it would be pretty easy to tell if the streamer hates them and is only faking it for money

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>>10554239
Their job is to entertain you, not be your therapist.

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>>10554239
Gura cares
https://youtu.be/7iB1rHJMEKc?t=1970

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>>10554636
only true answer

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>>10570368
And not that this was even particularly about holos, what were most of Hololive's numbers before they were Hololive?

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>>10554239
Most smaller vtubers in the 300 viewer and less range seem to care. I have some streamers who have twitch partner, who will go out of their way to contact me in their down time to chat and invite me to games. I don't stream and I'm not even a pay whale. I have my prime sub but I'll usually be given like 20 gift subs a month across different channels.

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>>10569933
Sana streams for the sake of streaming, since she has money flowing from elsewhere. So she sees her viewers as part of the experience and not source of income

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>>10570336
>Seeing somebody as a pathetic money dispenser and caring about them are pretty mutually exclusive anon, I'm curious why you think it isn't
People are not monoliths, anon.
Although, both states may trade off in a person's heart, making the statement true. . .
still, the same can be true in the same instant as a person is made of many smaller minds and programs. . .
still I don't think it even requires taking multiple points of view.
As these furthermore do not contradict.
fans are pathetic. this is often as close to objectively true as a judgement like this can be.
money dispensers - clearly objectively true without contradiction.
And yet, despite these facts being true, a person might look past what others would consider shortcomings and actually still care about them.
Why couldn't you?
How can your heart be so cold, anon?

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>>10554960
They don't really have a choice.

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>>10570368

Do you think hololive just hires people who walk in off the street?

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I like to believe that most of the hololive girls are professionals and appreciate their fans on some level.

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>>10570368
>cumming into thousands of viewers

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>>10577111
As a creative person who has a handful of strangers who like my stuff, it really means a lot that people give a shit at all.

That being said, it's hard to "genuinely care" about an anonymous crowd. They're not you're friends and they don't really know you. But still, they're appreciated. Just don't look to entertainers for surrogate relationships.

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>>10554239
Beatani

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>>10577163

Which vtuber is into gangbanging streamchat

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>>10577316
Hi dad! I heard that she loves us! What do you think?

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>>10570377
That doesn't mean she cares about fans. She is merely trying to hide her perceived failure to perform and avoid being bullied by people shit-talking her computer--the primary tool with which she makes her living, a source of pride and significant monetary investment. De-listing the vod is incredibly selfish, though obviously totally within her rights as a streamer. It sucks for people watching Fauna's vod because they are missing the puzzles half the time.
Turning superchats off for a single stream means basically nothing in terms of being responsive to fans because she won't actually get that "pc fund" money for 2+ months. Cover has historically arranged for equipment to be purchased using loans in advance of expected earnings a few times, but it's not the norm especially for new talent. Any changes to her setup will have to be paid for out of savings or using outside loans in order to be seen as being "responsive" to potato insults.
Turning off superchats is an attempt to assert control over the streamer's relationship with viewers. It's weird to read it as selfless or moral; it's a power move, always.

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>>10554239
Vtubers care about you, roommates aren't

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>>10570241
what if my oshi is the same as yours?

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>>10577445
Sex

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>>10577928
>BEATANI IS LITERALLY SEX.
Join the Beatani fan club and have sex with other dads today!
If you make a Beatani crossplay, Beatani will even become your best friend. She's been waiting patiently for (you) to make it (no but seriously this.) Please don't let her down, you are her last hope!

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>>10578211
My picture didn't get uploaded... ogey

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>>10554239
Rushia. But not in the way you'd think she does. She cares about her fans in the most menhera way possible

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>>10554239
Some of them probably do care but little actually care for their fans individually, its mostly "i care about you guys" not "i care about you".

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>>10578260
I hope her mental breakdowns are just part of the yandere fantasy.

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>>10554239
It's impossible to read a vtuber's mind. So it can't be proven that any given vtuber genuinely cares about their fans. Conversely, it also can't be proven they don't care. This thread is a pointless waste of electrons and I hope you burn in Hell because that's where faggots belong.

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Elira literally stalks her chat.

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>>10554239
Gura stalks her Twitter followers, takes screencaps and sends them to holoen discord channel to mock them.

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Rushia literally showed outside my house when I missed a stream.

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>>10578541
True she interact with the chat all the time. even in waiting room, they are entertainer not therapist

but i have to say the same for pomu she really be taking a long time to talk you about all the weeb shit you like

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Elira might care a little too much for how good maybe even. She's ended up borderline crying over not being able to stream properly because of ISP issues and unnecessarily apologizing at length over expressing some barely controversial anime opinions because she might have upset some people despite the fact literally nobody was upset.

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>>10570368
They were literally spawned into existence for Hololive. No wonder they are entitled!

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>>10578682
t. Gura

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>>10578418
>Schrodinger's chuuba
Whether they truly care or not cannot be proven, so they both care and not care at the same time, what matters is the version you believe in.

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>>10578849
>unnecessarily apologizing at length over expressing some barely controversial anime opinions because she might have upset some people despite the fact literally nobody was upset.
What stream?

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>>10554239
It's completely insane and delusional to presume that anyone can "care" about such a large group of people in any real or significant degree. As a fan, you are part of a group, and how you are represented as a group is what they deal with personally. There will never be a real connection there, because it is pyschologically impossible to comprehend compassion for a borderline schizophrenic, money-dispensing, uncomfortably social entity. You, as a person and as a group, will never be cared for or understood, which makes your relationship with your oshi strictly: you watch -> you receive entertainment. Anything else is just playing pretend that everyone would do well to avoid taking too seriously.

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>>10579094
Anon must be talking about Elira Membersheesh Watchalong of HXH episode 1-7

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>>10579094
I think it's the end of her second collab with Petra, then she wrote some 3 tweet essay about it after.

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The great Rosemi-sama loves her butas!

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>>10554389
I saw what you did there.

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>>10554239
peko

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>>10554239
Yes Kiara

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I can barely understand Japanese but Ria seems to care about her fans. I'm sure she's happy to have people to talk about rockets with.

I'm sure lots of smaller streamers appreciate their fans. Wouldn't be surprised if there's streamers out there who disliked losing the sense of community when they got bigger and the chat gets too fast.

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>>10578373
I mean, anyone who expects them to care for fans individually is absolutely insane. Don't tell me this is where the argument springs from, where people think 'care for fans' means that you'll have a meal with them if they bump into you on the street, and try to disabuse people of this notion - when all most mean is that they do sizably more than the minimum for content and interaction because they receive emotional reinforcement by pleasing a group they have strong positive feelings towards?

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>>10554239
Mito and Kenmochi.

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>>10579127
Your friends just hang out with you for entertainment, they're not your mom.

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>>10579922
I've seen regular streamers who do care about individual fans/viewers. But I can't picture that going too well for vtubers, too many weird, jealous and socially retarded people to deal with in the heard.

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>>10580097
If you watch moderately sized indies of like 100-300 viewers a lot of them have their own fan discords they are in with everyone and know their regulars on a personal level.

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Sora does. It's either that or she's been a godlike actress for 4 years

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>>10579254
She'll leave her Niji fanbase for hololive in a split second if she had the chance kek

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>>10554239
Yashiro Kizuku

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>>10554389
Nice try tako

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>>10579922
Introduce yourself to a complete stranger and they might have a meal with you, the chance is only going to be higher if you have the slightest connection with them.

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>>10579922
I think most of the good GFE ones have two categorized viewers into two categories in their head successfully enough to believe it as true- gachikoi, and casual viewers.
And then they've gone ahead and convinced themselves that the gachikoi are the good ones, and the dangerous anti schizos are among the casual viewers
In that sense, they probably wouldn't "go for lunch" or w/e if they bumped into you because they'd assume most fans they meet at random aren't "true" gachikoi. But they'd be super excited for a chance to meet their real gachikoi at an event or something.

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>>10580492
This is true desu. As long as you're not autistic and she doesn't immediately fear for her life or career(which tbf most genuine gfe chuuba will if you're a dude because...they're gfe chuuba, interacting with men off-stream is a no-no), if you were able to make her laugh and feel things on-stream you should know how to break the ice

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>he maintains a parasocial relationship with a person who doesn't know of his existance
>he tells the streamer not to exert herself too much and to take breaks
>he jannies in chat for FREE

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>>10554239
>Are there any vtubers that genuinely care about their fans? Or do they all just see them as pathetic money dispensers they have to deal with?
Moon Jelly cares about her fans.
Elira Pendora does as well.

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>>10581913
t. KFP

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>>10554239
How they treat their fans is an expression of their own personalities, moreso than a demonstration of "caring." This is a virtual medium. shrug

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What if she doesn't need my money?

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>>10577327
Marine

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>>10554239
Haachama

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>>10568075
Look for those who go the extra length, who do things they don’t need to do. Nene super long superchat reads, funny autograph signing and so on, Aqua free concerts, Pekora depending on her chat, those who are happy just to be there like Subaru, Kanata and Watame.

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Mikochi loves us

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>>10554239
The cool thing about vtubers is that a lot of them are mentally ill and rely on their fanbase for validation. It's a codependent parasocial relationship.

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>>10589257
>It's a codependent parasocial relationship.
This is accurate especially for smaller streamers.

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>>10569910
Except twitty streamers

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>>10554239
The '2views' that are so quick to be dismissed are often the ones that do care.

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Female streamers only care about their fans until they make it, at which point you're nothing more than a paypig.

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>>10569910
YOU DON'T HAVE 5 DOLLARS?

[Anonymous No.]

people new to idols discover the obvious

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>>10585799
she just wants your life

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>>10554239
They care about us as a collective

But on an individual level, they only care about the ones that do things that they will remember for a very long time i.e:
-Insane total dono count
-Extremely memorable fan content (Gura's feet compilation, Walfie's smol stuff)
and so on

The rest of us are just the noise of the collective

Smaller streamers and 2views will remember/care if you're simply a regular or do the things listed above. The smaller they are the easier it is

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>>10554239
Gura changed after the letters thing. I think she liked her fans before, but after her birthday, it feels like she loves chat and sees this whole thing differently. She's noticeably happier lately and I think she's in this long-term now, whether or not she wasn't before. Or maybe I'm just an autistic putz. Either way, I'll continue to believe her, cheer her on, and be there.

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>>10554239
Unironically Lyrica did. But fags here would never know.

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>>10594306
For all the garbage ones there are a lot of twitch streamers who are pretty wholesome. I'm not a pay whale. I just use my prime sub. Still I'll have streamers talk with me a lot and even gift me subs to their friends channel, one has even gifted me a $30 game because they wanted me to play it. I've been given like 7 vip the past few months, and 4 of those are streamers who have partner.

That being said I have also seen the reverse.
>why don't you have a sub
>It's only $5
>would you watch a street performer and not throw money in the hat kinda cringe
>Join my paywall discord
>constant collabs that ignore chat
>numberfagging

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>>10554239
>Are there any vtubers that genuinely care about their fans?


I dont think these scene is for you newfag, vtubers arent there to cuddle your fee-fees, they are there to be at a distance and not get too close to the fanbase.

Now theres the door to discord.

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>>10570377
>However, this will likely backfire during her next stream as an inevitable 'potato pc fund' will get started up.
Wow it's almost like she was just pity-baiting all along.

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Aqua, Marine and Pekora

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>>10554239
Tbh I think all of them do

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>>10554239

Idk why nobody has mentioned Gura when her birthday stream was almost nothing but her crying out of sheer fan appreciation.

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>>10595421
Collabs are a bit annoying. A style of streamer has emerged that just plays games and chats with their friends, and doesn't interact with viewers.

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only 1k below viewers care about their fan base.

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>>10554239
they care about as much as you care about every person in this thread, anon. It's okay to laugh along with them but don't delude yourself

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>>10568223
>some fans are better than others.
The paying ones, I hope?