/auds/ - VTuber Auditions and Workshop

[Anonymous No.]

/auds/ Thread # 14

Question of the Thread: What are your key performance indicators? What metrics will you look at to measure your progress and growth (whatever it may look like for you)? Is it followers or subscriber numbers? Amount of fanart? Reducing the amount of "ums" and "uhs" during a stream?

What is /auds/?
A thread where we discuss our vtuber aspirations! Where it's agency-based or independent, let's help each other grow and make it as entertainers. Indies are welcome to join, but shill responsibility. Share what knowledge, insights, what works/doesn't work for you.

FAQ:
Do I need an expensive rigged Live2D model to be a vtuber?
You do not! A simple .png avatar can be enough to get started.

Where can I learn how to Live2D rig avatars?
Brian Tsui of Iron Vertex has many tutorials available on his youtube channel

RESOURCES:
/auds/ OP Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/zuUBUbGG (embed)
Static 2D avatars - a simple png in the corner of your screen is plenty!

>Backgrounds and Props
https://sozaino.site
https://www.irasutoya.com/?m=1

>Background Music
Youtube’s Audio Library: https://www.youtube.com/audiolibrary
CCMixter: http://ccmixter.org/
Open Game art: https://opengameart.org/
KevinMacLeod: https://incompetech.com/

>Voice Activated 'Animation' Software (だれでもVtuber)(JP only)
https://96enu.booth.pm/items/2362820

>3D Avatar Creator
VRoid Studio

FACE TRACKING SOFTWARE
>Live2D SOFTWARE
Facerig (with Live2D module)
Animaze - PrprLive - VUP

>3D SOFTWARE (.vrm format)
VSeeFace - Wakaru - 3tene - VUP

Stay grounded, stay hopeful.

Previous thread >> xx

[Anonymous No.]

[Microphone Copy Pasta]

Here's a few tips for all of you about microphones for all of you:

First:
-If you are starting, take a look at what you have around, maybe your gaming headset will be good enough to start.
-If you have a rockband mic laying around stored in some box, it may do the job too, stick a pantyhose on top of it to stop plosives, cut a hole on a ceral box to have it serve as a mic stand and voi-lá. This used to be the beginner youtuber special back in 2011~2013 and it worked very well.
-Check the noise reduction filters and equalization in OBS (or maybe use NVIDIA RTX Voice if your card is compatible) for some boost in quality.
The important is to start.
-Study mic technique, a lot of quality improvement can be done without spending a cent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty8YLqOmbV4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAKnCEsZ_og

After you begin and you look into into buying a mic to improve your audio quality keep in mind a few things:
-"pro" audio requires a lot of investment in equipment, acoustic treatment, mixing, etc. A lot of your favorite vtubers and regular youtuber and streamers don't have it and do just fine.
-USB mics are generally not the top end of the microphones contrary to what Blue's marketing team may want you to believe, but a good quality one is more than serviceable. If you're not that tech inclined and want an all-in-one quick solution, consider one.
- A good XLR mic, a boom arm, a pop filer and good audio interface will be enough. Don't get lost chasing "the best", don't get lost into the audiophole rabbit hole, it'll cost you a lot of for increasingly diminishing returns that most of your
viewers and won't notice.
- If you are on a tight budget, look for dynamic microphones, a Shure SM-48 with a windscreen, an XLR-to-USB adapter or a cheap audio interface will be cheaper and beat in quality most USB mics at thrice the price.
-Take into consideration your needs - lot of streamers, for example just use condenser mics because it's "studio quality" but can't get the quality they may potentially output or do anything that will really benefit from having one (like raw music vocals to for mixing).
-Going off from the last point, if you are not recording music (I don't mean Karaoke streams with some reverb kicked in, I mean actually recording vocals for mixes or professional voice overs) consider dynamic mics instead of condensers like most big streamers do, it'll save you a lot of headaches.

About Mic types, there are basically two that matter for you.
Condenser mics:
- A lot of people who do livestreams use these; They are your Blue Yetis, AT2020s and similar.
-Usually are called studio mics, and there's a reason for that. While give you a nice voice recording with a fuller range of capture, to make the most out of them you need a controlled, studio environment.
-They are more expensive by themselves, often require more accessories (not only a boom arm, but shock mouths and the like), and are often overly sensitive (which is why you get a lot of mouse and keyboard noises when people are playing).
-To make them sound the best they can will require acoustic treatment of the room you record (because they are sensitive and capture the sound waves bouncing on hard surfaces and that messes with your quality) or home-made recording studio/booth (or a makeshift one, like getting inside of a closet full of clothes or recording inside a pillow for).

Dynamics mics:
-These are the stage mics, most of you will be familiar with handheld ones stick with the little ball on top of it (but many can have different shapes and look as "studio-like" as the Condensers).
-They're usually very good at not capturing the noise that's not immediately in front of them, which is why they're used for concerts, churches, TV, and even presidential speeches (US presidents have been speaking into SM-57s for a many decades now).
- That means you don't really need to have an acoustically treated room and the clicks and clacks of your keyboard and mouse won't be picked so easily, which makes them great for home studios.
- While dynamics can get expensive, due to their construction they'll be less expensive than Condensers. The legendary industry-standard Shure SM58, for example, costs 100 bucks, and even the top models like the RE20 are way cheaper than the high end condensers that cost thousands of dollars.
- Dynamic can also be used for studio recordings - a lot of Rock vocals are recorded on Shure SM-58s because it's gritty; a ton of podcatst and radio studios use the Shure SM-7B (with Joe Rogan being the most famous example), NPR uses the Electro Voice RE27.
- Dynamics however are not as sensitive a as Condensers, they're not ideal for most musicians doing studio recordings unless we're talking rock/metal vocals.

Hope it'll be of use for all of you.
And sorry for double spaces but it's a lot of information and I wanted it to look organized.
Godspeed, anons!
And good luck!

[Anonymous No.]

Post your investments

>200 on mic equipment
>900 on art
>250 on rigging
>200 bucks on a background
>50 on a webcam

1600 currently. Considering dropping a final 30 for some outro art, but that's minimum priority. Also willing to hold off on the background if I end up getting charged more than I'm expecting for the rigging.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1036167
If a character design artist gives you a quote outside of your budget what's a good way to respond? I was thinking.
>Your art is absolutely beautiful, but unfortunately that is out of my current budget. Thank you very much for your response. Take care!

[Anonymous No.]

>>1036428
that sounds pretty fine to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>1036428
Have you considered payday loans?

[Anonymous No.]

Reverb reduction/elimination is the single biggest thing you should aim for before worrying about which/what kind of mic to get. It shouldn't cost very much - I literally just bought a pack of cheap nails and a couple comforters from Walmart and nailed them up to the wall.
Bang-for-the-buck quality USBs (the Yeti as the benchmark) will run you over 100 bucks, and at that point you're better off saving a bit more for a cheap XLR-USB interface and a "low-end" XLR, which will still probably BTFO out of most USBs, for a combined total of 200-250 bucks. A bit steeper of an investment, but having the interface means you've covered the cost of getting one down the road, compared to getting a pricier USB now, running into a wall in terms of where you want quality to be for extra content (singing, standalone chat streams, etc.), then having to get an interface AND and a mic in the future.

With that said, a decent mid-level USB mic will be more than adequate for streaming itself, where BGM and/or game sounds will cover up any scuffs. Basically: if you just wanna stream and have zero intention at this time of ever going further, get a good USB. If you already know you wanna try singtubing or making pre-produced content, go for an XLR setup.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1036167
Missed the previous thread link
>>951229

[Anonymous No.]

>>1036346
Counting shit I've invested so far that I didn't already have?
>Art: $100 on concept art/character design
>Audio: $250 on new XLR + USB interface
>Studio: 55 bucks at walmart for a couple big comforters and a box of nails to treat my room a bit
>Webcam: already had a C920
>BGM: already payfagged FLStudio and produce music so will make my own
I'm taking the art in steps, next stage is a dedicated L2D artist to use the ref to make an avatar (anticipate 200-250 for a waist-up), then a dedicated rigger after that. Artist+Rigger combos tend to either appear to be really mediocre for both at the low end, or 4-digit-cost professionals at the high end, with no middle ground.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1036346
>>1036942
What mic did you go with?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1036942
>Artist+Rigger combos tend to either appear to be really mediocre for both at the low end, or 4-digit-cost professionals at the high end, with no middle ground.
I noticed this too. You are either going IV or a homeless man or some highschool artist who's only rigged twice

[Anonymous No.]

>>1035618
Well done! Could you please share an insight, How did you grow so fast on Twitter? Did you post OC?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1036993

[Anonymous No.]

>>1036993
Guy you replied to, I ended up going to a local music store but price was comparable to Amazon:
>Scarlett Solo (used) for 100 bucks
>Artesia AMC-20 for 120
My mic boom (which I neglected to mention/account for) was this behemoth https://www.amazon.com/VIVO-Adjustable-Microphone-Counterbalance-STAND-MIC01/dp/B07GNTNPMJ but I needed it just to ensure I could comfortably hold the weight of the mic+the shock mount it came with in-box

[Anonymous No.]

>>1036942
>Artist+Rigger combos tend to either appear to be really mediocre for both at the low end, or 4-digit-cost professionals at the high end, with no middle ground.
I think this is probably explained how people are either hobbyists at either, or pros at both. The sort of "middle-tier" creator that makes decent art for the price for Deviantart commissions or has sunk themselves into learning the ins and outs of rigging to make money off of it requires specialization into either specific skill set.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1037014
I'm not particularly artistically inclined so what I did to build the twitter following was just interact with the community. I commented in posts asking for interactions and also made my own posts like that.
I know a lot of people are concerned with like, keeping a low following:follower ratio but I also pretty much followed back anyone who follows me because it also just gives me more people to talk to.
I posted very sloppily thrown together "lol just messed around in audacity for a bit" covers that got some interaction and found that you can get some more notice if you post a cover with the #歌ってみた tag. Take a look at how fast a certain tag moves when adding tags to your posts! some tags don't have any traction so you want to make sure the tags are spelled correctly.
I went to support other indies that followed me who also seem interesting personality or designwise by going to their streams, retweeting their announcements, etc
I'm only able to stream about 4 times a week for about 2 hours at a time currently

[Anonymous No.]

How big of a tracking difference does the webcam really make?

Should I get one of those ones with a light ring, or is that excessive?
Any recs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1038736
I think as long as your room has good lighting you should be fine
i don't have a live2d with a ton of motion but i haven't had any problems and my room's lighting kind of sucks

[Anonymous No.]

>>1039053
What webcam do you use

[Anonymous No.]

>>1039098
I spent about $60 dollars on it but I can't remember the brand name and it has no name on it on the camera so honestly I can't really vouch for the quality of it
however, that's more of a point towards "you don't need a fancy camera as long as it can see your facial features"

[Anonymous No.]

>>1039138
Cool. Thanks

[Anonymous No.]

hilariously, all of the upgrades i made to my computer were because my university transitioned to remote learning, so i got a new webcam, a decent usb mic, etc. for class. i guess it's an expense, but not one i went out of my way for the sake of vtubing.

[Anonymous No.]

Is everybody here going for the L2D meme or are there any 3D chads itt

[Anonymous No.]

>>1042244
i know there's multiple people in these threads going 3D whether its their self made vroid model or high quality commissions
i went live2d because i prefer the look and because i feel like i'd need to pay a lot for a good looking 3d in comparison

[Anonymous No.]

What kind of posts should I make on twitter?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1042700
It depends on what you're going for. I make posts that typically fall in line with what my character would say, but like for engagement purposes there's a lot of different things you could do to fish for interactions
I've done them a couple of times and they're usually fun to do on days when i'm not doing actual streaming

[Anonymous No.]

>>1042739
I'm looking to get followers from basically zero.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1036346

>20 on a 2DLive license
>100 on a Webcam
>100ish on soundproofing foam
>200 on a replacement elgato after my old one shit the bed recently
>waiting on estimates for my bgm commission

I have a lot of of stuff like a mic and editing software from dabbling in youtube prior and opted to make my own model because I want it to have a lot of variants

[Anonymous No.]

What do you guys think of my self-composed BGM? It's a minor key, so sounds kinda "sad", might rework it into a major key, but yeah. Obviously turn the volume way down to simulate what it'd be like in-stream.
https://files.catbox.moe/on4dx3.mp3
Rendered from random measures so no one can steal

[Anonymous No.]

>>1042907
>100ish on soundproofing foam
I urge you to not do this

[Anonymous No.]

>>1042853
i basically explained my whole progress on what i've done so far over at >>1038590
can't say if it works the same for everyone since not everyone is really comfortable talking with random people on twitter or that the same methods work
i did start this twitter account from zero but i've also seen people who follow like 700+ people and only get like 80 follows in return

[Anonymous No.]

>>1036346
>3K on computer dual monitor setup (built it over time though)
>$200 on a Blue Blackout Spark SL mic (that I immediately broke)
>$800 on an ipad pro
>$500 on capture card and stream deck
I haven't commissioned any art yet but for what I'm going for could potentially be another 2K.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1043051
I live in a noisy shithole so I didn't really have any other options

[Anonymous No.]

>>1044198
I hope you know that "soundproofing" isn't really sound-proof. It can dull a lot of the noise at certain frequencies, but plenty will still vibrate and leak right through the wall/windows/door/whatever you're trying to isolate.

[Anonymous No.]

How strong of a setup do you actually need to stream with Live2D going

[Anonymous No.]

>>1044198
Won't a shotgun mic would be a good solution for this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1044198
VLuchadore?????

[Anonymous No.]

Will I regret having a twink(ish) avatar?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1045573
like 95% of Nijisanji males are twinks

[Anonymous No.]

>hololive stream with pngs
>call it "cardboard"
maybe there is still hope

[Anonymous No.]

>>1048712
It really is just about the personality you're watching
I spent a lot of today watching a bunch of indies with great senses of humor and commentary and it really made me realize that no matter how funny or interesting you can be, it really is a big game of luck and marketing
putting yourself out there getting eyes on you is so important and a big part of "Start creating" really stems from that kind of thing. its not about your debut, but rather, what can you first offer than will make everyone want to keep watching you. being able to stream is good and all, but what will make your streams stand out? how will people know that those streams stand out?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1048838
ngl, kinda dejected over that reality. i'm pretty sure there are hundreds of genuinely talented people out there making incredible content, but because they're not signed up with an agency, or because the Youtube algorithm gods have deemed their content not worthy, they never get views.

kiara said something about this, how she could just tweet out a picture of mediocre paste and get 10k+ likes on twitter and someone else who may be very skilled, will get maybe 10 likes if they're lucky.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeQgnsI9yVc&feature=youtu.be

[Anonymous No.]

>Spend 140 USD on a ATR-2500x USB because couldn't afford something like a GOXLR + Mic.
>Noise out the wazoo

Well, at least my new motherboard supplies enough power to use the BM-800 without phantom power and it sounds better than the ATR-2500x. Bought the BM-800 6 years ago for 15 bux and it's doubled now.

> $0 USD on art and rigging, it looks like shit, but I literally don't have money to spend on it right now.

> $0 Background, drew it myself, MS PAINT.

> $20 USD XiaoVV XVV-6320S 1080P UVC, pretty good image quality, autofocus, decent low light, mic is crap compared to the logitech.
Tracks better than the Logi C310/C270 720P which would be the bare minimum for decent tracking, before that I was using a Logitech QuickCam Chat 640/480 with a 352*288 Sensor and that actually was able to track, just had to fiddle with focus ring a lot.

Need to invest in some sound treatment, as I occasionally get a bit of echo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1043285
Do you have the male debuff?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1036167
Someone should perhaps create a discord for people with girl vtubers, as opposed to the male one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1050576
There's a discord?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1048838
>>1048916
IDK, I'm sort of the opinion that a lot of time, you'll stand out if you've got something special. Not Vtuber related but look at MKBHDs old ass videos where he's like 12 reviewing his VCR. His setup is shit, he's got no idea what he's doing, but there's still something there that shines through.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1050576
How about a mix of both male and female? Also there's a discord?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1050150
with the male debuff you actually have to socialize and be interesting so if you can't manage it then best of luck

[Anonymous No.]

>>1050576
>>1050643
>>1050882
pretty sure there's one on the subreddit, but fuck touching anything on here

[Anonymous No.]

When it comes to interacting with other vtubers, what is considered polite, and what's rude?
If I'm a smaller vtubver and I raid a bigger vtuber, is that clout chasing or showing appreciation? If I'm a bigger vtuber and I donate to a smaller vtuber or follow while they are streaming, is that taking attention away from the smaller creator, or showing support?

If there's a fine line that separates the things, where does that line begin?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1050882
The division is better because it reduces simping or attention manipulation behavior

[Anonymous No.]

>>1050993
you know men and women can exist in the same social space right? without freaking the fuck out?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1050893
Just wondering whether I can expect to achieve those numbers at that rate even with the debuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1051029
You really expect autists on /vt/ to not sperg out?

[Anonymous No.]

why the fuck would you create a discord for people who frequent a board LITERALLY designed to keep everyone anonymous?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1051135
There's plenty of males that get numbers. Besides the femboys/traps, there's plenty in the 10, 20, 30+ range all the way up to I think 150 or so, even more if you count people like Takahata or Merry who brought over existing audiences.

The catch is that all of them have similar personality traits. They're just fun to be around. Girls have multiple traits that make dudes simp for them but the goal for a male shouldn't be Fujobait, it's to be likeable. Also don't stream on Youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1051446
Wait what's wrong with Youtube? I heard that they're slightly less anal about copyright than twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1051493
The fact that all the biggest indie/English vtubers are on Twitch should be enough of a hint, it's just not at the same level as a site for people to watch lives. It's good to have a Youtube for highlights and vods and other video content, but streaming on Twitch just makes more sense for EN people. I wouldn't worry about copyright, just don't play copyright music. You shouldn't really have music playing anyway unless you're doing a chatting stream, and even then there's plenty of labels like Fixt with 100% safe to stream music.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1051248
It's not against the rules to post here with names/trips.
Would you prefer that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1051446
>Also don't stream on Youtube.
Why the fuck not? It's the biggest platform in the world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1055584
Doesn't matter, you aren't corporate nor do you have corporate backing, again, look at all the biggest EN Indies. It's great for discovery to get people to your Twitch, but streaming on Twitch and using Youtube as a means to host your content helps a lot more financially.

[Anonymous No.]

Was there any advice on how to make sure your stream runs smoothly on a potato laptop? I tried test streaming and it was lagging like crazy when I watched it back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1056576
Stream at a bitrate and resolution so shit no one would want to bother watching, that's really it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1049469
USB mics are like that sometimes, and mics in general are subject to electrical interference if what they're hooked up are not properly grounded.
I suggest you take a look and OBS settings and set up Noise suppression:
>>https://medium.com/@Wootpeanuts/removing-background-noise-with-obs-studio-17214d967fe0

>>1051591
The biggest indies are on Twitch because all they think is doing gaming, and Twitch is still the most dominant platform for that.
If you stream anything else you'd be better served on Youtube.
There's a reason big art streamers are leaving Twitch for Youtube despite twitch prime and already having an established sub-base there.

>>1056576
1) Make sure you're not exceeding your upload capacity.
2) Lower your FPS, even as low as 23 fps is passable.
3) Lower yout bitrate/CFR - it may require you to stream games that have less stuff going on the screen.
4) Stream less intense games so it won't bog down your CPU.
5) Resolution at 720p or lower (keep at 16:9 proportions, 960x540, 854x480, 640x360)
6) Save for a better computer.

>>1056637
If the content is intersting people will watch.
A lot of fightan streamers had and still have shitty streams because fighting games are absolutely poverty, but because they are good players or are entertaining people watch.
For famous Vtuber case: Fumino Tamaki's computer and internet connection are so crappy she couldn't stream for years in anything above 480p - and it looked bad even with everything being static images. Yet because she's the unlucky nutjob she is, there were people to watch.

[Anonymous No.]

I really hate the term "femboy"

Maybe I'm just a guy who is cute. Why does it have to be feminine?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>1057827
Because other guys want to fuck you and don't want to admit they like men.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1058014
It's not easy being into the cute boy aesthetic, straight, and kinda hating women because of their crappy behavior.

I'm kind of miserable and I'm only streaming because I don't want to be alone anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1058297
Ganbatte, don't let that mask slip.

[Anonymous No.]

i have stupid questions for you regarding your future collabs
will you collab with:
>males
>females
>male using female avatar
>female using male avatar
>trannies
>native non-EN language vtubers
>foreign non-EN language vtubers
>popular vtubers
>openly political vtubers
>religious vtubers
>meme vtubers
>leeches
>ecelebs
>celebs

[Anonymous No.]

>>1061587
>males
Yes, male vtubers need more love.
>females
Yes, but I'd be selective.
>male using female avatar
Yes
>female using male avatar
Yes
>trannies
No, it's a mental illness and associating with the untreated and mentally ill is super risky and dangerous.
>native non-EN language vtubers
Yes, if I can understand them well enough to make good content.
>foreign non-EN language vtubers
Yes, if I can understand them well enough to make good content.
>popular vtubers
Yes, it's a good opportunity for promotion and I'd like to get to know some of my favorites personally too.
>openly political vtubers
No, I don't necessarily want to self-censor but I also don't want to do political content. I would prefer to avoid it.
>religious vtubers
Yes, as long as it's a legitimate religion and not some weird psycho cult shit.
>meme vtubers
Yes, memes are fun
>leeches
No, obviously no leeches... but that term actually gets massively overused. I'd be fine to boost up smaller streamers who are cool. In fact, I'd try to do it actively. People who are small need the love.
>ecelebs
Depends which ones. Some of them are cool.
>celebs
If you mean the hollywood weirdos? Hell no, they're trying to destroy my culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1062754
thank you and good luck

[Anonymous No.]

>>1063011
So far I'm doing quite well making YT shorts as a pre-debut. Hopefully I'll have enough of a basis to have a big debut!
I always thought the male debuff narrative was nonsense, but now I'm getting some evidence for it, little by little.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1036346
150 for rigging

[Anonymous No.]

>>1061587
>Male, Female, Babiniku etc.
Really depends on the Vtuber themselves. I get extremely paranoid and scared talking to women due to former trauma, so I'd probably only collab with actual guys and people playing guy characters if I feel comfortable enough around them. Trannies are fine as long as they aren't political or self absorbed, but they often tend to be
>native non-EN language vtubers and foreign non-EN language vtubers
I defintely want to experience this. I won't gain anything from it, but trying to break the language barrier itself is really fun, and trying to come up with creative ways to communicate with someone feels really special and unique.
>popular vtubers
Depends on the Vtuber. I'd never risk collabing with Hololive, for the things the schizos here are capable of scare me more so than potential gain in viewers/subscribers. I'd collab with Nijisanji if only because I know I'm less at risk. Vshojuo isn't my cup of tea so would avoid for sure.
>openly political or reli-
No. Vtubers are supposed to be an escape from the problems of the real world, not a gateway to go more depth into them.
>meme vtubers
No. I'm aiming to keep keyfabe 100% at all times, so meme vtubers just wouldn't really work with what I want to do. No ill feelings for them, just wouldn't work.
>leeches
No. I wouldn't mind collabing and giving a leg up to Vtubers who actually deserve it, but I refuse to be a leech, or let myself be abused by one.
>ecelebs
No. Ecelebs, no matter how popular, would be a no go, because they'll potentially attract negative attention, and again defeat the Vtuber ideal I'm going for.
>celebs
No. See above.

Also I know I can't prevent it, but If I see myself in a woohoolad or hero hei video I'm going to be fucking pissed, even if it's positive. Fuck those cunts and any other channels that replicate their "news reporting".

[Anonymous No.]

>>1061587
>males
yeah
>females
sure
>male using female avatar
why not
>female using male avatar
sure thing
>trannies
depends
>native non-EN language vtubers
depends on the language, i cant speak all of em
>foreign non-EN language vtubers
same for this one, i want to be able to have at least a little conversation
>popular vtubers
sure thing
>openly political vtubers
no thanks, politics isn't my thing
>religious vtubers
being super openly religious is basically political at this point, depends on how much they talk abt religious stuff i guess
>meme vtubers
sure thing
>leeches
depends
>ecelebs
depends
>celebs
no thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>1064034
You're not going to publicly bash those cunts for giving you free advertisements if it happened, are you? It's a retarded move imo especially if you want to be popular or moderately known.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1064385
Of course not, since that basically would make me lean slightly into the politicial side of content creation and petty drama shit I want to avoid. I probably would send them a private message asking if they could stop though. Even if it is free advertisement, I don't want some lazy cunt to be using me for a quick buck because they're too creatively bankrupt to come up with their own original content and rely solely on leeching off of drama and other people's doings for their gain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1061587
just noticed i missed a some questions. here's the revised format

i have stupid questions for you regarding your future collabs

will you collab with:
>males
>females
>male using female avatar
>female using male avatar
>trannies

>native non-EN language vtubers
>foreign non-EN language vtubers

>popular vtubers
>smaller (than (You)) vtubers***
>leeching vtubers
>stalking/clingy/obsessed vtubers***

>parent vtubers (your designer/rigger)***
>sibling/cousin vtubers (same parents, different origin etc)***
>children vtubers (if you ever become/are a designer/rigger)***

>openly political vtubers
>religious vtubers
>controversial/yab vtubers***
>meme vtubers

>ecelebs
>celebs

[Anonymous No.]

Asked earlier but how strong would by PC need to be to properly stream while running my Live2D model

[Anonymous No.]

>>1068724
depends in the game you'll be streaming, but most modern PCs with components after 2016 should be plenty for the vast majority of games.

[Anonymous No.]

Not counting hardware like my mic since I didn't buy any of it for streaming initialy
>mic arm 35
>some acoustic treatment for my room 80
>50 for some rights to a background and other scenes
>60 on a webcam, but had a $100 best buy gift card
>made a model until i can save for art
being broke is the mother of invention

[Anonymous No.]

>>1069578
meant to quote
>>1036346

[Anonymous No.]

Is running a live2d tracker more demanding than something like vroid, where it's a static model as opposed to warping images?
If my computer is having trouble keeping vroid smooth, should I upgrade before I go to a live2d model? Or is it easier to do the latter?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1061587
>males
Yes
>females
Yes
>male using female avatar
Depends
>female using male avatar
Yes
>trannies
Depends
>native non-EN language vtubers
??? If they're native it'd be really hard to see them not speaking EN.
>foreign non-EN language vtubers
Sure, I want to make foreign friends
>popular vtubers
I mean, that's the dream, right?
>openly political vtubers
As long as we don't have to talk politics
>religious vtubers
As long as we don't have to talk religion
>meme vtubers
If they're only in it as a joke then probably not.
>leeches
Depends
>ecelebs
Heavily depends
>celebs
lolno
Most of the depends = "Are they actually insane?" Trannies and babiniku have a higher percentage of being actually insane,

[Anonymous No.]

>>1061587
>males
Not to be rude, but I don't really find it enjoyable to interact with most men so I wouldn't want to collab unless they are a trap or just, really exceptionally nice.
>females
Yeah!
>male using female avatar
Sure!
>female using male avatar
Sure!
>trannies
Possibly!
>native non-EN language vtubers
Yeah!
>foreign non-EN language vtubers
Yeah!
>popular vtubers
Maybe, I would worry about being "indebted" to them
>openly political vtubers
Only libertarians
>religious vtubers
Depends on how relevant religion is to their chuuba
>meme vtubers
Probably not. Like the Chad one? That's cringey.
>leeches
No?
>ecelebs
Maybe
>celebs
Maybe, but I don't see why they would want to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1036167
How long should you wait on an artist to get back to you, after sending an inquiry about a commission? I have contacted 2 and waited 24 hours with no response. Not to be crazy, but how long should I wait before moving on? 3 days maybe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1036346
I said it a few threads ago, but I'm like 4k USD in right now, expecting to spend another ~1k or so shortly after my debut.

Everything is bespoke. Yaboi don't do off the rack, this suit gucci.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1070109
If you're just putting out feelers there's no reason to wait. You can always turn someone down if you find someone else first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1061587
>males
probably not
>females
yup
>male using female avatar
nope
>female using male avatar
yep
>trannies
absolutely not
>native non-EN language vtubers
yeah if we can understand each other to a minimum
>foreign non-EN language vtubers
see above
>popular vtubers
yes
>openly political vtubers
absolutely not. Politics ruins entertainment
>religious vtubers
sure? as long as they dont bring it up
>meme vtubers
sure
>leeches
nop
>ecelebs
nop
>celebs
probably not

[Anonymous No.]

>>1070109
Emailing them 3 times is the max, imo,
First contact, 2 day reminder, follow up 1 week after (keep looking around for other artists during this week, and only if you're REALLY desperate for their particular work). If they don't respond, just move on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1044198
Cheap towels from a dollar store > soundproofing panels you buy at great cost.

Literally pile cheap towels in a wooden frame, then stretch fabric over it so it looks nice. It'll soak so much ambient noise that it'll put soundproofing foam to shame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1050899
Don't overthink or be autism.
Just participate normally, with good intentions.
It'll all work out fine that way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1070256
I'm retarded so can you post an example of such a thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1070331
https://youtu.be/pABvTWSxOes

There are lots of videos like this, but this one shows actual testing and explains the process well.
Cheap as fuck acoustic panels soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1070211
Ah, I hadn't even thought to email the same artists again! I tried two very talented artists this time around, but I have my eye on this noob artist with really cute style as plan 3. She coincidentally is also a vtuber, but I am not sure if she has done much character design work before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1070404
shit, not that anon, but that actually looks like a simple weekend project. are sound dampeners really that important though? i couldn't really tell that much of a difference in the comparisons, but that might be because i have shit hearing. if they're worth it, might just go out and pick up the materials and give it a shot seems easy enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1070256
>>1070404
>>1070610
Literally just tack loose hanging towels to your walls and tape paper towels to the corners of your room

[Anonymous No.]

>>1064034
>>1064055
>>1069925
>>1070052
>>1070185
thanks for the answers. honestly, i regret posting it since it's so dirty. i'll post it with a revised one tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1050576
The male one half the active people are girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>1070691
>i regret posting it since it's so dirty
wut?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1057638
>The biggest indies are on Twitch because all they think is doing gaming, and Twitch is still the most dominant platform for that. Again, no EN indie on Twitch is beating the top 10-15 people in anything at all on Youtube. Not music, not chatting, not reacts, nothing. Not to mention donations seem much higher for people established on Twitch than on Youtube.

If you're smart about putting your content on Youtube and Twitch eventually fails, that's where all the people will be going anyway and if you were smart you've already made a following there by using it to host your compilations, karaoke, and archives. As of right now there's no reason to stream on Youtube unless you're just trying to copy what Japanese people do, and even their indies that aren't signed to some group have low viewership.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1063617
People not believing the male debuff exists amaze me. You're streaming to a demographic that is mainly male and who are mainly interested in looking at a cute girl. What did you expect? The Vtuber audience isn't as broad as the whole Youtube audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1074393
You're able to stream hgames on dlive, right?

Your answer will decide my future.

[Anonymous No.]

I think there's a prevalent mindset in these threads that really highlight how few of you will be successful in the long time unless you fix it. Being an indie is nothing like being the large company vtubers, there's a reason the biggest english speaking indies who aren't V-Shoujo level cap at about 300 viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1074569
enlighten us, anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1074569
>the biggest english speaking indies who aren't V-Shoujo level cap at about 300 viewers.
This is literally false. Plenty of indies break 300 and get 4 digits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1074569
Trying to appeal to an audience that doesn't exist. (fujoshit)

being unwilling to accept the Twitter community or use it ofr anything. its the best place for an indie, especially a new one. interaction and socialization are key unless you've got a group like Tsunderia backing you.

settling for shitty fiverr rigs, shitty audio, or shitty models

being so anti-twitch

"im gonna play all these RTS no one past the niche they're in care about!"

"i hate all these whores breaking kayfabe..." no one cares about that for indies. indies break it all the time, the charm comes from the relatable interactions with their community.

these along with a bunch of just weird preconceived notions on "how thing should be" just show how disconnected a lot of people here are. not saying everyone is just going to be a failure, but just from these threads and the ones in /wvt/ you can see how skewed the viewpoint is here

[Anonymous No.]

>>1074806
Discounting those who brought in their audience from a previous life since none of you can do that anyway, who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1074854
You didn't even read the thread, did you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1074905
artemis
kani
that robot girl vtuber who debuted had 2k for her debut, will probably stick around 500+ viewers
pikamee (she speaks english)
i watched a tranny with a manvoice get about 700 viewers once when I was trawling twitch for new chuubas, he was pretty entertaining i guess
Veibae
that one brit who isn't kani
lumi

[Anonymous No.]

>>1075491
Artemis I'll absolutely give you but remember he was a viral hit, it was a sheer stroke of luck.

Kani's stats, unless they're wrong, put her at like 200 live viewers max, but she's out of my timezone so I can't catch Lives, is this wrong?.

VOMS isn't Indie is it?

Veibei, Snuffy, and the like I've lumped with VShoujo-tier stuff, they all share about the same audience. Not trying to move the goalpost, I should've specified that and not just listed one.

Does Lumi being a Merryweather character not count as an outside thing? It's basically his own produced V-Tuber, like if CTRL+Alt+DEL or something made a v-tuber.

The others I have no clue who they are since their names aren't listed.


The thing to remember is that those are all girls, and I'm willing to be most of the people here aren't. Most of them wouldn't be nearly as popular as men because of the type of content they're providing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1074854
i mean there are some people with those viewpoints in this thread but there have also been posts talking about how to shill on twitter, discussions on different vtuber models, talking back and forth on different platforms and so on
while there are people in these threads that think that, i wouldn't say that those views are held by the majority here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1070281
one big vtuber i look up to followed me recently, and i really want to raid them and say hi. how do i do this without looking like a clout chaser? i'm excited they followed and want to say thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>1076829
send them a DM, thank them personally, let them know you want to show some appreciation and raid them back but want to know if they've got some groundrules before doing so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1076877
i tried to dm but they didn't respond, but to be fair, they have around 60k followers on twitter and 20k on twitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>1076409
>those are all girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>1076924
that's kinda rough, with that much noise, it'd be difficult to get in direct content. reach out to their mod team probably? maybe they'd be able to get in touch with the streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1076829
Just raid them, hang out in their chat, etc. Make sure it's organic and you're not forcing anything, you're better off getting noticed that way. If they don't respond to your DM don't push it, they're probably used to schizos and even if you're not you'll look like one.

[Anonymous No.]

Lots of overthinking here. Just raid them and interact in chat. People take notice of these kinds of things. there's no "groundrules" to raiding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1076409
If Jerma or tyler1 were vtubers they would absolutely murk every single other vtuber out there. It's a talent gap, not a male debuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>1077216
If Jerma or Tylert1 BECAME v-tubers they would, because they'd bring in an audience. You know, like every other large male vtuber. The biggest ones all had previous followings for either art, voice acting, or other forms of entertainment that they brought over. Male debuff exists, they just had higher stats from the start.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1077306
If they had started from the beginning as a vtuber, the same result would have happened.

[Anonymous No.]

Would a tie in game based on my avatar help me stand out? I'm trying to figure about ways I can use my skills in programming to help me stand out since I'm not very good at singing or other typical idol stuff. I'm thinking about starting an ARG or modding games I stream with my avatar and acting like I'm trapped in the game and acting in character kind of like Freeman's Mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1077348
No, because the audience for people using an anime avatar is significantly smaller when you don't have an agency like holo or similar groups. If they started right now as vtubers they would be severely handicapped just like every other guy because as mainstream as anime is, a lot of normies still avoid it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1077446
If you can pull off a good ARG that you can catch on, it might work but it has to be well thought out and advertised properly.

You'll get tired of acting in character after a while though unless you just have an RP or theater background, youd still probably get tired even then.

[Anonymous No.]

For those of you who might be a bit too scared to apply to hololive because you don't think you're experienced enough, just know that both Ollie and Civia were only active on their past lives for a month before they were hired into hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1036167
I wonder when Hololive Gen 3 will be. In another year? The competition will be even stiffer..

[Anonymous No.]

>>1077973
I actually see a paradigm shift happening in the near future. Everyone talks about the male debuff but the sheer number of female vtubers flooding the market will just make any male vtubers stand out that much more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1077910
What if I didn't even have a past life? :^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>1078185
you better have some strong idol energy to carry your audition through. having a track record to show that you've got the discipline to stream consistently means less of a risk when Cover hires you since they know you'll be able to commit to a regular schedule of content creation.

[Anonymous No.]

instead of sound treating your entire room, wouldn't it be easier to just have one of these? anyone use them? might have to sit up or raise your chair a bit to get a clear view of your face for the webcam, though.

[Anonymous No.]

Do any anons here reveal their streams/personas? Interested in checking out some of the streams from posters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1078551
only 2 i can think of Idol Hopeful, who has since deleted their channel in preparation for their debut, and Pom https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgfFtE-rZDBvgRfXfNJ0fqA

[Anonymous No.]

>>1078412
same anon here, nevermind, a quick search shows that this is a pretty dumb idea. https://youtu.be/tFRhQG-I5L0

[Anonymous No.]

>>1078551
Apart from the two mentioned by >>1078598, there was also Miwa Toriyama (https://www.twitch.tv/miwatoriyama)) who I think also made a thread promoting herself a week or two ago and i think has been adopted into /wvt/
I don't think any of the active vtubers that post here have posted their streams though and i don't particularly blame them

[Anonymous No.]

>>1077973
VTubing in the west is heavily saturated and is falling off fairly quickly. It'll be around forever but everyone is over-estimating how much westerners care about the concept. It's mostly propped up by it being a fresh idea to ironic weebs but eventually they'll move on, especially as the pandemic ends and people stop being able to watch vtubers while working from home.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1078861
got any speculation on the next possible thing? my thinking is that at least i can practice being an entertainer through vtubing and take that developed skill to hop onto the next big trend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1078908
>>1078861
It'll pick up with HoloEN2 and NijiEN. This is a pretty normal set of trends it's already followed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1078908
In terms of online entertainment? No idea. I do think vtubing will continue to grow in the long term and have another spike, similar to minecraft did, but only after we see the "market correction" to match the true demand of the medium.
If I had to guess, it would be a group of vtubers/actors who adhere heavily to lore or a general narrative to take it to another level of entertainment beyond "streaming with an anime avatar". Haachama's success and Hololive Alternative indicates that Cover seems to think this is where the money will go too
Something like RWBY could always crop up too, but you'd need production values above what an indie could do. It would need to be done by a company.

>>1079219
It'll spike again with EN2 and NijiEN, but a lot of indies will starve and the corpo talents will start competing each other for numbers. I don't believe it'll spike higher than EN1, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1079306
I see, that's fair. The way I've been seeing the progression of content has always been delivering newer facets of interactivity to the audience.

For example, if we start with the old Youtube model, it was primarily just pre-recorded videos that were uploaded, some comments to respond and reply. Then it transitioned over to livestream, which brought interactivity with the audience to a much closer level since you could be there with the performer in real time. In the same way traditional face cam streamers blew up with increased accessibility (OBS for example, was the biggest gamechanger because it was free and very light on CPU).

Now we've got vtubers, that provide more a unique virtual experience with a livestreamer. The biggest example being what Haachama's been doing with her character's lore. Trying to recreate something like with pre-recorded live acting and skits would be difficult and time intensive. But editing a 2D character model to do those skits is a lot easier to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1078908
Every trend, online or otherwise, is cyclical. The next thing doesn't necessarily need to be something other than vtubers, but something "post-vtuber." Something that rejects the way vtubers are currently. Everybody can agree we've reached a point where the market is saturated and it's near impossible to differentiate one vtuber from another. They're all interchangeable. The novelty of "I'm such a weeb lmao" is completely gone. It's absolutely normalfag to be a weeb.
They're e-celebs but think of what Filthy Frank & Iddubbz were to YouTube in 2011-2016. It was a complete rejection of mainstream behavior online & normalized what was thought to be heterodox and extreme at the time (not counting imageboard culture).

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder if my commission inquiries have been ignored because it's the weekend. Man, I just really want my chuuba visualized.

[Anonymous No.]

i can speak, but hearing myself sing makes me want to die. thankfully i'll never get picked in auditions

[Anonymous No.]

>>1083860
poast a song

[Anonymous No.]

>>1084213
i have a distinct accent and don't want to dox myself

[Anonymous No.]

>>1036167
she didnt make it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJasogUQ_ew

[Anonymous No.]

>>1085955
Her voice just isn't idol material.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1086104
then what is?

>>1085955
got me curious to search youtube and see if anyone else as posted their hololive/vsinger audition tapes and came across this shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blMoZ2I1gVo

[Anonymous No.]

Why do you guys want to become Vtubers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1086939
Cuz I feel like it. That's about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1086939
I am an autistic otaku NEET with a naturally high voice, so it seems like an appealing thing to do. I had a lot of fun Twitch streaming a few years ago but the stress of being known was too much, even though I only had 100 followers. Being a vTuber is an ideal solution!

[Anonymous No.]

>>1036167
https://youtu.be/TQ1DmT6_o0g

What does this guy know about acing auditions?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1087038
>>1086967
Good luck anons. I meant no rudeness by my comment, I'm just interested in reading people's reasons for doing things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1086939
Streaming with an anime avatar was an idea I had long before I even knew what a vtuber was, and the combination of being out of work and finally having a good enough computer to stream made it seem like a no brainer. I also find the idea of performing behind an avatar and a fake name hearkens back to an older era of the internet where you were actively encouraged to hide your real identity, as opposed to it being linked to everything you do online

[Anonymous No.]

>>1087127
go away jusagi and stop selfposting

[Anonymous No.]

>>1086939
I enjoy streaming but using my actual face is not great for my job, so using an avatar is a much more appealing choice

[Anonymous No.]

>>1086939
People seem to like my voice, so I wanna do something with that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1087326
His advice isn't great. You can't show someone your clip first, only HoloEN can see it. If there is a lot of views on it they'll know you sent it around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1087127
>starts out by saying that your character doesn't matter because it won't be carried over to hololive
>starts shitting on indies who use catgirl vtuber models
>there's only like 3 catgirls vtubers who have already debuted as indie and have no reason to apply for hololive EN gen 2 BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALREADY DEBUTED AND ARE PART OF INDIE AGENCIES
>name drops a friend of his and says his friend will have better chances because he "cares about his character" despite already pointed out, hololive won't take your character anyway

the rest of the video was nothing more useful than a google search, "sit up straight and have good posture when talking" and "take it seriously" fucking hard pass on this guy and his """""""advice"""""""

[Anonymous No.]

>>1087566
You don't know shit about indies. There's tons of catgirls, they're just literally whos. Same with bunnies, wolves, dogs, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1087690
>There's tons of catgirls, they're just literally whos.
oh yeah, i'm 100% sure he was talking about the literally whos with sub 100 followers on twitter and a cumulative 18 views on their two youtube videos as the example of "millions of generic catgirls" fuck off jusagi, hope you eat shit and die with your "advice"

[Anonymous No.]

>>1087487
You do know you can share video files over more than one method than youtube, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1087782
I am not a sneaky liar sort, so I didn't think of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1087780
Cakecatboy
Momo
yumayamano
MissMoonVoices
Amedoll
mofufu_ch
sasshleee
kromia
xkittymcpancakes

All 30+ average cat vtubers that I follow or know of, some with followings up to the hundreds. Animals are extremely common. I'm not a cat but even I've got rabbit ears and I fluctuate between 20 and 30 viewers.Again, you don't know anything about indies who aren't just the most commonly talked about here.

[Anonymous No.]

>implying they're applying to hololiveEN gen 2

[Anonymous No.]

>>1088128
Why wouldn't they? The only one big enough to not really bother is Momo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1088128
This. Hololive is more appealing to poorfags and hidden gems, as opposed to people with already big followings like Nyanners.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1088177
Are you retarded? The only one with too many viewers is Momo, in the thousands. You realize Ame's old account was growing, at 150+ average viewers right? That's about the same or more than everyone else I listed. 200 viewers doesn't just mean you're making bank.

Do you guys really not know anything about streaming and making money from it?

[Anonymous No.]

Instead of shitting on indies who have already invested hundreds of USD to catgirl Live2D models + rigging, etc., the people you're actually going to be in competition for aren't other current vtubers.

They're the Calliopes who've been working on music production and have personal indie Spotifys. They're the Guras who've been working on internet meme videos for almost years. They're the Kiaras and Inas who have a professional work outside of the vtuber industry but possess the skills and talents necessary to carry a stream.

Focusing on the current indie vtubers as your competition is dumb as fuck because they aren't even your competition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1088270
Yeah, Ame was absolutely a weird pick amongst the rest. She's the smallest streamer by literally hundreds of thousands, if not millions of clicks.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm using vtubing as a way to set myself apart from the others in a niche video genera I'm focused on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1088433
This is for
>>1086939

[Anonymous No.]

>>1088270
Consider that even wanting to do a job like that is even weirder among westerners. Why are you spreading so much FUDD? You should embrace optimism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1088558
After EN debuting, I'm sure lesser known creators have more of an eye on it now than before.

[Anonymous No.]

If you apply and don't make it, do they respond with criticism or totally ignore you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1088558
>even weirder among westerners
t. elder millennial who doesn't know what they're talking about. just because being a weeb was "weird" when you were a kid doesn't mean the world's stayed the same. if you think it's a "weird" job among westerners, you clearly haven't been paying attention to Gura's 2.3 million subscribers. kindly fuck off. you're no better than boomers.


>Why are you spreading so much FUDD? You should embrace optimism.
There are (maybe) 5 slots. Do the math and fuck off jusagi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1088675
I'm not even a millennial I am a zoomer, but I live in bumpkin land so I will take your word for it. Though I have a feeling that you think everywhere is like LA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1088657
given how many fuckloads of applicants they get i highly doubt you'll get more than the standard "unfortunately there were many highly qualified entrants this time around and unfortunately you were not selected this time" spiel

[Anonymous No.]

last thread someone suggested putting up these packing blankets along the walls of the room to help absorb sound.

so... how? do i just nail them in? they have a seam around all the sides, do i just poke 'em through with nails or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1089770
thumbnails probably work ,they don't seem too heavy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1089953
thanks anon

[Anonymous No.]

https://voca.ro/1fvO23qnCnma

If anyone would like to hear for the heck of it, this is the audio portion of my application. Unfortunately it's already been submitted, so I can't use anyone's feedback this time around. But I assume I my attempt was about average, assuming most applicants are not crazy skilled this time around. In any case, next time I hope I will have achieve conversational Japanese and Russian skills that might be appealing! If anyone else would be willing to share their audio, I would really like to hear it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1090545
cute voice / 10
good luck with auditions, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>1090545
You're not supposed to share it anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>1090545
YAB

[Anonymous No.]

>>1090545
Did you apply for Niji and Holo both?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1090765
Thank you anon! You too, if you are auditioning.
>>1090815
>>1090822
Is it so yabai? I thought about Jusagi's video, and I don't know anyone else to get feed back from so it seemed like a good idea. Especially since my odds were so low this year, I could learn what to work on for the next time. I suppose it may have been a little dumb.
>>1090882
Only Holo!

[Anonymous No.]

>>1090927
posting it here in /vt/ will probably be fine, unless the specific person screening your audition tape happens to also be the same person trawling through /vt/ specifically on the lookout for people posting vocaroos to compare to each of the 500+ audio submissions that people have made (which i doubt).

[Anonymous No.]

>>1089770
1stly, assemble a miryad of knowledge, liek how many of these shitty sound-proofing things you want.I AM GOING TO ASSUME YOU ARE SLAPPING THEM ON YOUR STUDS(the actual wood you can hang things on under drywall), trust me itll be fine. then the tools, a tape measure, hammer, either an electric wood saw or a hand saw, nails, some 1*2 boards, mounting clips(these usually come with their own screws, double check tho), 4 inch or 6 inch nails for the frame, and some for walls(4 inch would work)

secondly figure out the towels dimensions with a tape measure. you will be making these a good 1 to 2 inches(2.5 cm to 5 cm or whatever you want I am not your boss) smaller on each side.

3rdly put the wood together as a shitty frame, see image.

fourthly apply the mounting piece, in the middle of the piece, for a nice balanced frame.

5th hold the towel over the wood frame harder than an elf gets held down in a doujinshi, and like an elf doujinshi getting an extra to help makes this step easier. hammer those motherfucking nails in to place, starting on a shoter end make it easier.

6 you will now have a thing, slap a nail into a stud and hang it harder than some teens have hung themselves.

i take no critizms and will now debut and help everyone juryrig whatever they want to the best of my ability on some obsurce site that i definetly wont understand

[Anonymous No.]

Not specifically /auds/ related, but I just wanted to share this channel of a Japanese vtuber who has been streaming for 2 years, making consistent content but has decided to retire permanently in pursuit of other goals.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDrg_zEjjeDE4jQrzsUFvHA

Not to scare or dissuade anyone, but you just gotta know that it's a difficult world out there, even for Japanese indies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1070665
That would look hideous though.
Why would you do it a shitty way like that, instead of doing it nicely?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1074480
I'm doing okay so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1091038
Oh, good point, thank you anon! Hopefully they will be none the wiser, and I will remember to not make such a mistake again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1091549
>Why would you do it a shitty way like that, instead of doing it nicely?
It looks... fine though?... I mean, I guess I could iron the outer towel first to make it smooth if I really gave a shit about how well it looked. I don't know how many of my 3 viewers will listen to my stream and comment "wow, that your homemade sound dampeners look hideous, anon"

[Anonymous No.]

>>1091749
But anon is probably streaming in a bedroom. Having something so weird on the walls might make them feel weird.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1091775
>might make them feel weird.
...what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1091800
Having blankets on your wall might look a little creepy. They will billow in the night and look like shadow people, or they might fear that their are insects underneath the blankets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1091831
>Having blankets on your wall might look a little creepy. They will billow in the night and look like shadow people
...............what

[Anonymous No.]

>>1091038
What if the screeners are the mods and they are cross referencing the IP addresses /vt/ with the ones of the applicants?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1091749
>>1091775
Or... maybe some of us are adults who try to keep a nice-looking home?
Not everyone is a basement dweller who is comfortable living in a garbage dump, you weirdos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1091882
Then it means Annoying Orange is a shoe-in for HololiveEN Gen 2, duh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1091897
>maybe some of us are adults who try to keep a nice-looking home?
>Not everyone is a basement dweller who is comfortable living in a garbage dump, you weirdos.
I mean... then just spend money on commercial sound dampeners for your room? it's not like anyone is forcing you to make DIY sound dampeners with towels...? or are they?

blink twice if you're being forced to make diy sound dampeners with towels against your will, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1091880
Personally, I am scared of the dark and the shadowy figures created by things on the wall, and sometimes my chair or desk. I assumed that anon was the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1091933
People who want to keep a nice home aren't necessarily rich, dumbass.
Besides, if you'd watched the video linked before, the DIY ones work better, so why wouldn't you go with them?

Personally, I got printed fabric covers made for mine. They look decorative, it's quite nice. Spent less than $200 to make this room look gorgeous and clean up the acoustics at the same time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1091965
Never assume that everyone else is an autismo manchild defective like you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1091998
To be fair this is /vt/, and further more a thread for people that want to larp as anime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1091988
>Besides, if you'd watched the video linked before, the DIY ones work better, so why wouldn't you go with them?
.....i'm samefagging here, but i'm the anon who responded that this looks like a simple weekend project i can get done in a day or two. so... yeah, i'm planning on going with these diy sound dampeners...

>Personally, I got printed fabric covers made for mine. They look decorative, it's quite nice. Spent less than $200 to make this room look gorgeous and clean up the acoustics at the same time.
i'm happy for you anon, but i apologize, i can't seem to find where i gave a shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>1092032
Go to a local artist and get them to make nice covers for them so you don't look like you are living in a cubist nightmare you dunce.

Studies have shown that nice artwork improves your mood, and your mood is infectious. Having a beautiful workspace is not a luxury, it is important.

[Anonymous No.]

How do i refuse taking a bad commission without offending the person?
Like what do i say exactly "Im not doing this commission cause i don't like your oc" or what

[Anonymous No.]

>>1095667
This sounds like an odd issue to have. How garbage is it?

[Anonymous No.]

Niggas in this thread with single digit viewers talking merchendise. Come on, focus on the topic and the topic is streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1078861
Wfh is here to stay anon, the shift already happened. My brother is a programmer and all co workers are looking for wfh stuff and even higher ups prefer it to renting a fancy office downtown. It's like the spell was broken, and people realized not all jobs need to he done on site.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1095667
Don't reject the commission.
Offer an upgrade to design work and make the OC suck less for even more money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1095667
Reminder that this Anon is talking about YOUR commission

[Anonymous No.]

>>1061587
>males
depends, but unlikely
>females
yes
>male using female avatar
depends
>female using male avatar
depends
>trannies
unless if they're a trap, hell no
you definitely wouldn't want their political baggage, especially with all the vtweeters around
>native non-EN language vtubers
yes
>foreign non-EN language vtubers
yes
>popular vtubers
yes
>openly political vtubers
no, politics divides people and creates antis
>religious vtubers
no, that's a landmine, same goes with politics
>meme vtubers
yes
>leeches
no
>ecelebs
depends but mostly no
>celebs
absolutely not

[Anonymous No.]

>>1096552
Why no males?
You don't wanna hang out with your bros?

[Anonymous No.]

I got 500+ follows in less than a week on twitter. No streaming yet aside from posting model reveal. Commissioning a good artist seems really worth it (since they would RT my chuuba) but I can't say how it translates into views yet. I had a set debut date before making the account too. Now I just have to not pull an Artemis and actually have interesting streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>1099422
How the FUCK did you get 500 followers without even posting art

AAAAAGGH I FUCKING HATE THIS RANDOM CHANCE SHIT ITS NOT FAIR

[Anonymous No.]

>>1100257
>get artist to retweet the model reveal
>get the rigger to retweet the rigging reveal

[Anonymous No.]

>>1100257
What >>1100277 said.

Once the artist retweeted the model they just came in. Rigger also had some sort of gimmick put into the model and people were into it. I posted some artworks I made myself but they didn't get much attention (probably since its not fanart) but I need to do content reps

[Anonymous No.]

Bros I nearly have enough money to get a comission but I can't decide which character design/persona to take on. How do I pick one idea out of the three I have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1100427
1, whichever one you personally like best
2, it doesn't really matter after like your first month of streaming

[Anonymous No.]

>>1099422
This is why having good art matters, especially if it's from a large artist or rigger. Put some content out ASAP, even just some mediocre ear-wiggle teasing. Use it to keep them on the hook while you make something good. If you're good at editing hide your voice as soon as long as you think you can even if you're a girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1100427
You'll drop the persona, almost everyone does unless it's a direct extension of themselves. It'll become just a bit you refer to once in a while. Don't focus too much on it, instead focus on what fits your actual personality and voice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1099422
I'm in a similar boat.
I'm approaching 100 subs on YT after just a few days, and I don't even use social media.
People say that you can't grow without the Twitter clout chase, but it just isn't true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1074854
>"i hate all these whores breaking kayfabe..." no one cares about that for indies. indies break it all the time, the charm comes from the relatable interactions with their community.
thats why I don't watch western indies besides kana and couple more, you will wonder why you dont get viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1100774
Yes this is exactly what I've been doing. My first tweet was the peek thing.
Why hide voice? Should that be a debut thing? It's what I'm planning but out of curiosity.

>>1100866
Yeah I haven't really interacted with randos on twitter (aside from thanking them). Also it might not exactly be clout chasing but the artist boost did help so connections can be still quite important.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1101020
Well, feel free to drop a throwaway email if you want to connect with a friend.
I'd love to get to know more male chuubas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1100257
I mean, a model reveal is an art post more or less
>>1099422
How big was your artist? Posting my model and getting retweeted by my artist didn't really get any traction though that night be because vtubing isn't where most of their following came from
But that's still a great place to start! I've been streaming for three weeks and I'm only in the 200s for followers! I never did any like pre-debut stuff thought and basically streamed to 0 followers but the growth has been pleasant so far

[Anonymous No.]

>>1101044
Sorry dude, I'm a female. I guess that does give a little edge.

>>1101231
My artist has 150k+ followers on twitter.
Also that's a lot desu, especially without pre-debut stuff. Well done, I wish you luck!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>1101374
Ahhh, that makes sense! My artist has sub 100 followers and rigger has a bit over 10k so the reach there makes sense!
When do you plan on debuting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1101374
Well, still happy to make connections. I just kind of assumed you'd be male just because... well, the people who are surprised to find small levels of success tend to be male in this niche.

[Anonymous No.]

This is more entertaining than watching /biz/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1101981
Where from is that comparison drawn?
Just that people are hoping to make something of themselves?

[Anonymous No.]

don't take the bait, anon, it's just a tourist

[Anonymous No.]

>find someone with the same niche as me
>they are charismatic, upload regularly, and do everything right
>less than 300 subscribers

There is nothing more discouraging, I swear to god

[Anonymous No.]

>>1102210
What's the niche?
Also, if you're that small you might as well shill a little here. I'll follow ya.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1036167
Not strictly speaking an aspiring vtuber question, but close enough to be in this thread.
I've been told I have a radiophonic voice and I do enjoy explaining and teaching, so naturally making youtube content has always been a secret dream of mine.
Problem is I'm not sure what content I'd even want to make, I'm not knowledgeable enough about anything to the point I feel like I'm an "authority" on the subject and have something worthwhile to say.
Any suggestions? vague ideas? content you wish there was more of?
I've heard there are people looking for voice overs for their own content, any idea where to find them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1102311
People looking for voice overs are usually more interested in somebody with a portfolio already, but there's a surprisingly big market on YouTube for things like
>ASMR
>Comicbook readings
>Casual discussion, as long as you have the personality for it
Stuff like that. It wouldn't hurt to experiment with things like that

Post a vocaroo. I want to hear what you sound like

[Anonymous No.]

>>1102311
>Problem is I'm not sure what content I'd even want to make,
Another anon in a previous thread posted https://www.gutenberg.org which has a ton of old books, most of them free of copyright. You could definitely start some voice work practice by doing audio-book style readings. Use that to build up a library of your voice work.

You can also try voice acting by doing fan-dubs of animes or games. But the core idea is that you get some solid practice in, and build up your portfolio that you can show to people who may be interested in hiring you, even if it's freelance or something on Fiverr.

keep in mind that you'll need to do some good sound treating work if you want to be taken seriously. Booth Junkie is a guy who does professional voice overwork for books, advertisements, etc. and he's got a pretty good guide on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7NI6RvSK-Q&list=PLzEW-dm_vsRu8OD_caE2mg8YTerbGgOoW

[Anonymous No.]

>>1102396
https://vocaroo.com/1mofRNObNs0X
obviously I'd have to work on my intonation and prepare some sort of script, I sound confused and retarded.
>>1102431
Making an audiobook is an interesting idea, do people even listen to audiobooks on youtube?
I do know people are into readings of shorter things, depending on the topic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1102713
>do people even listen to audiobooks on youtube?
honestly, no, the audiobook field is basically already dominated by professionals who work for Librivox or Audible (plus a handful of other audiobook companies). but it's a way to build up your voice work portfolio.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1095667
I had this happen to me at first. Just try to work out what you don't like about it. If you reach a point where you can't fix it, tell the artist that you appreciate his work but his style may not be what you're looking for. I got refunded on everything except the sketch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1102713
I do.
For once I don't have do download anything to my device, I can just play it.
And youtube saves where you left, so I' don't need to remember which chapter I've stopped when continuing my listening - it also syncs devices, which helps a lot.
.
>>1102783
>dominated by professionals
>Librivox
Librivox is entirely made of amateurs doing it either for the reps and building a portfolio in order to become professionals or amateurs who are just passionate about it.
I've heard a lot of Librivox stuff, The entirety of Anne of Green Gabbles, a lot of detective fiction and I'm a few chapters from finishing Quo Vadis.
There's quality content, and I'm grateful for it, but there's audio quality that isn't pro-level and at times you can find a lot of diction/enunciation that's obvious it's being done by amateurs.

[Anonymous No.]

>female anon voicing male character
Please be biological

[Anonymous No.]

Daily reminder to stop trying to stream on YouTube. You'll do better on Twitch using YouTube to store your off stream content

[Anonymous No.]

>>1103621
It makes no difference.
You'll be a 0 viewer streamer in Twitch at the bottom of whatever category anyway and you'll have just as a hard time being found by viewers just as you'd have on yotube.
What makes you get viewers is driving external traffic to your stream - whether is Youtube or Twitch, it's still on you to do the legwork or advertising yourself and getting your name out there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1102713
Nice voice.
Become chuuba. Don't waste those pipes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1101020
If you're a girl then yes. It'll keep more people hooked. Just keep trickling out some basic content and preview your art, stream assets, etc if you can afford it, good luck!

[Anonymous No.]

>>1101020
I've seen a lot of people (male and female) be able to farm interactions with voice reveal/line reading requests
might not be like a save for debut kind of thing but maybe a milestone thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1105849
Line reading requests, huh...?

I'd be amused to do that, but it's kind of hard to get that sort of interaction when you don't use Twitter...

[Anonymous No.]

>>1101515
Mid march! Gave myself a 3 week hype building period.

>>1101896
It's prolly best to assume everyone is male here anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>1105952
...then use twitter? why wouldn't you? It's the best place to start networking and building the base of communities, as well as getting noticed by other vtubers who may like your content, design, etc and want to support you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1036167
I fucked up. I misread the bio of this girl who happens to be a vtuber and an artist, and I thought that she was the artist that drew her vtuber, but it turns out she had someone else draw her chuuba. But I sent her a commission request, but then it turns out her own art is (very cute!) but more amateur, and it's too late so I already sent the commission inquiry. I don't want to be a total dick, so now I guess I am going to be paying a few hundred for some art that I didn't really want and having to use that for my chuuba because I wasn't careful. Her art is again, very cute but it's not very refined. FML.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1105952
i don't know if you're the same person as the one i responded to originally but if you've already gottan 500 people to follow you from your model/design alone, i'm sure just asking "what would you want me to say" would get some interactions
if you want to test the waters with people reading your tweets first though you could always do something really simple and make a greetings post i guess to see who is actually looking at your tweets

[Anonymous No.]

>>1106232
Many times over banned.
It's kind of a pain to have to keep inventing new accounts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1106395
or just... say you've found someone else you dumdum.
You aren't required to do anything until you've shook on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1106395
Why not just thank them for responding to you inquiry but them know that you were mostly curious about the rates and that you've decided to go with someone else? Wish them luck acquiring future commissions and the like to make it easier to take.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1106397
Nah, I'm >>1100866
Doing well but could probably stand to get back on the Twitters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1106461
I know I could do that, but it seems like such a mean thing to do. I will take the fall for my own mistakes. But maybe I can just use this as a base character design, and then get nicer art later on. Is that considered a rude thing to do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1106468
I was too enthusiastic with my initial inquiry for that to work, unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1106524
>>1106486
use it as art for your video thumbnails or something, then, i guess?

[Anonymous No.]

If anyone of you anons make it, please don't reveal your power level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1106486
If you think it's worth the money, then get an illustration.
If you don't, don't.

If you're such a pushover that you'll spend hundreds of dollars to avoid a semi-awkward 10 minute period, you ain't gonna make it, dude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1106397
Hey, are you by chance a big Genshin Impact fan?
Found ya <3

[Anonymous No.]

Also good luck faggots, i hope one of you makes it

[Anonymous No.]

This thread got me back on Twitter.
Now let's see how long until I get banned again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1106749
Why should it be a secret?
I read every website I can access, and I post on all of them. It's normal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1107186
how tf do you manage to get banned so many times?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1107556

probably for shilling qanon shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>1106395
I mean, I hate to say it but you could always ghost her if you haven't paid yet

[Anonymous No.]

>six twitter followers
>2 are a follow back and one is a bot

I know I shouldn't be expecting more before I have even announced myself as a vtuber, but it's still much more frustrating than I anticipated

[Anonymous No.]

>>1107897

twitter's a circle jerk, you wont get followers unless you're willing to stroke the egos of self-important turds. wear low follower count as a badge of honor

if you make content eventually some of it will go viral and you'll get followers that way, until then dont fall into the infinite dick-sucking loop that is pre-debut

[Anonymous No.]

>>1107186
Just don't sperg.
Go to your settings and under Privacy and Safety and Ads Preferences tell twitter you are not interested in Politics, Breaking News, and whatever topic that riles you up.
Disable trending topics from your region, set them to a language you don't understand and have no interest in.
If something bothers you on your timeline, just click the three dots and tell you're not interested and stay away from politics and social issues and overtly political people.
Don't argue with people, just mute.
I did that and my twitter is basically curated to my interests and I'm quite happy with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1108048
>wear low follower count as a badge of honor
>eventually some of it will go viral
anon you kind of need people to be able to see your content for it to spread and get viral
that being said,
>>1107897
honestly until you have stuff ready to go to have some kind of presence i really wouldn't worry about it
i'm not saying you should debut immediately but at least give yourself a week or two to gain some kind of presence with your account before debuting

[Anonymous No.]

>>1108131

You have a point. I just hate people who go all in on that "networking" bullshit and never produce anything actually worth watching

like that prick jusagi, sleazy pyramid-scheme doucehbag

[Anonymous No.]

>>1108236
I'll be honest as much as i detest jusagi he does at least put out content regularly but its also quite telling that despite the nearly 3k twitter followers and 1k youtube followers that only a handful of his videos get any sort of interaction
the only vids of his that have broken 1k views are clickbaity hololive adjacent videos and his debut
I think there's a difference between making friends with people on twitter and just literally shilling yourself at every avenue you can find

[Anonymous No.]

>>1107556
I spoke negatively of a titty streamer years ago.
Her audience brigaded me with false reports, and I got auto-banned, then Twitter just... totally failed to respond to my requests for a human appeal.
Then I got auto-banned two more times for ban evading, probably an IP thing since I was too lazy to use a VPN.

Different IP now. Shouldn't be a problem this time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1108236
>jusagi
I keep seeing this name but have never cared enough to look up who it is.
Is the dude really awful?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1108534

You have a sharp mind, I noticed the same thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>1108675
>Is the dude really awful?
no, but he talks about things as if he's some authority on it without having the qualifications for it, which is what bothers a lot of people. like his "how to nail hololive gen2 auditions" video which is devoid of any actual advice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1108048
Completely wrong. Look around and make friends with people whose content or personality you think you'll mesh with. Interaction will come naturally. I've got 500 with no stroked egos whatsoever. Follow someone if you like their twitter content, use #envtuber and #vtuber hashtags, yes people look at them.

Following and interacting with larger content creators can help, but believe it or not there's some that genuinely just want to help smaller streamers who they see are hard working or that they mesh with. That's how I got the help I did. You don't need to stroke anyone's ego, just interact.

>eventually some of it will go viral
Just stop

[Anonymous No.]

>>1108675

Don't bother looking him up, he ain't worth the click

His theme is some kind of "business consultant" guru but he clearly doesn't know jack shit about business, gives the same vague advice you've heard a hundred times already.

His voice is grating and awful, all of his followers are desperate vtubers hoping for a shoutout. He has zero fans that are not small-time vtubers starving for crumbs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1102713
Very nice voice. Do you sing as well?

[Anonymous No.]

What is your absolute endgoal? What number do you need to reach before you can think to yourself "everything after this is gravy"

[Anonymous No.]

>>1108758
I don't care for the guy, the business angle gives me pyramid scheme vibes even if he's on the up and up, but the difference between the advice he gives and the advice here is that his has a face to it. It isn't random anonymous shit that pulls in multiple direction. It has a face to the advice that you can interact with, and it's all genuinely basic advice that most of you guys didn't even know til these threads started and still continue to ask here, so surely there's plenty of wannabe indies in the same boat. Not saying he's to be trusted or anything but there's a reason he gets any attention at all past people wanting a shoutout.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1108719
>>1108758
So... just kinda cringe and obnoxious in a way that makes him a natural target for off-handed 'fuck that guy' mentions?
I laughed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1108675
>Is the dude really awful?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZaZVvnV5D4

[Anonymous No.]

>>1108821
100k YT subs.

I'm taking this seriously, so my long-term goal is 100k.
I want to prove the "no good male vtubers, male debuff makes it impossible" narrative wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1108821
1k subscribers is my short term goal. If I can get 1k in two years I will be entirely happy with my progress

I guess if we are talking END END goal though, like what number will I have before I eventually stop making content? I dunno, it's hard to say. 10k?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1108861
good luck. got any voice clips? you're pretty much hinging on that to start out with as a guy unless you've got some kind of skill past "guy who games"

[Anonymous No.]

>>1108821
My end goal is 600k subs, and an animated music video, and a storyline to rival the horror of Haachama's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1108821
all the responses so far seem to be people with much higher aspirations than i
i really just want to be able to push myself to keep up streaming for at least a year and make the content that i wanted to, which also requires me to do the mentioned year of streaming at the minimum
a lot of people look for a number to rise to when they start but I can't say i ever had something in mind. growth seems really fickle and i don't really have the mind to tell how quickly or slowly i'll grow so i never had any expectations for that
it would be nice if i hit above 1k twitter followers or 500 twitch followers i guess; i've never had a big following anywhere before

[Anonymous No.]

Have you guys already drafted your "i denounce /vt/ and any 4chan related fans, please don't cancel me, k thanks" statement already, in case you get popular?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1109123
Why would that be necessary?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1109123
Yup. Infact I think about it more than I think about most things

[Anonymous No.]

>>1108861
Isn't there already plenty of 100k sub male vtubers? Male vtubers can exist but the realiry and subtext of this business makes it harder for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1109147
Normally you don't wanna be associated with anything 4chan ever, especially on twitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1109158
>Isn't there already plenty of 100k sub male vtubers?
If you're counting Japanese vtubers with a Japanese audience, then sure. But most of us here are western. There's a more accepted culture of anime in Japan, hell, even their self defense forces use anime to recruit.

>>1109180
...then why would you ever associate yourself with 4chan publicly?...

[Anonymous No.]

>>1109158
there's a couple of niji and holostars in the 6 digits, though i'm not sure if the same can be said for indies
>>1109123
i've had to consider it but that's also why i've yet to ever post myself here

[Anonymous No.]

>>1109123
I will not denounce any site, I will only denounce fans that are mean spirited and lack empathy for others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1109199
>...then why would you ever associate yourself with 4chan publicly?...
/agdg/ does, but they also have a very fuck you attitude to things. Much more, idk rebellious than in here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1109260
Lmao, that's easy to say until you wake up one day to 1000+ tweets of blue checkmarks demanding you make a statement because "newest xyz vtuber comes from the toxic 4chan"

[Anonymous No.]

>>1109335
i mean, i just see it as standard vtuber boundaries. there's really no need to talk about what specific websites you've "started" from or why /vt/ or 4chan specifically would come up. if someone send you a superchat asking about 4chan, just meme back "i've heard of that hacker known as 4chans on the news" and brush it off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1109373
>blue checkmarks care about new vtubers
??

[Anonymous No.]

>>1108955
It's a bit distinctive, so if I'm going to post it, I might as well just link my YT.

How bad is it, really, to be known to browse 4chan? Can I get away with this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1109373
how would they even be able to prove that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1109410
If you post your twitter or chubba here, that's one link.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1109373
If someone has the mindset to want to persecute others, I really doubt they would be my fans in the first place though. Like say, the crowd that for example gets really mad about Uzaki and Nagatoro wouldn't like me at all because I am going with a somewhat loli-ish chuuba. Those people really don't matter. I wouldn't be like an obvious 4chan user, because that's extremely cringey but there is no need to bend the knee to the SJW crowd either.

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>>1109407
koopa and a lot of other wvt popular people seem to be doing fine so i honestly don't see it as a big deal unless you say things that would get people to use that as a reason to defame you first

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>>1109260
sounds like the majority of people posting on 4chan

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>>1109620
True, but I don't like to presume individuals are bad. For example, there are a lot of nice posters in this thread.

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>>1109658
it's not us you need to worry about, it's the schizos who are logging and tracking everyone who posts a vocaroo or link and keeps it in some creepy ass excel spreadsheet not that anyone is doing that....right?

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>>1109537
Fair.
I'm mainly here because I saw traffic from 4chan on the YT backend anyway.

>>1108955
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3wKIeTG7njA1hhFcPl5D2w
I think my voice is pretty okay. I'm learning to like it.

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>>1109721
i've made a private twitter list of people who have posted here because i want to see how everyone else's journey goes and maybe to collab with them when i actually decide to do a collab

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>>1109871
that's kinda wholesome, hope things work out for you and those anons

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>>1109335
That's because /agdg/ is full of CHADS who do CHAD things like programming and game design. We...i mea they are just simply better in every, way shape or form.

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>>1108861
Been working at that for a while myself. I will say being good at a game, or at least inventive in creating alt content is best. Good luck to you Anon and godspeed.
>>1108832
>>1108758
Its the fact that he gives basic info that anyone can pick up, but its said in an annoying voice. People paying for "consultations" And the low-tier indies waiting for crumbs come from his "drop yer pee en gees" threads everyday disguised as "networking" and the promise of creating a vtuber group like Vshojo that said indies can get help from.

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>>1110093
>his "drop yer pee en gees" threads everyday disguised as "networking"
the dumbest part is that this is the basest level of predatory twitter algorithm manipulation. you tag a community, say some dumb ship, and ask people to "drop names" or "drop pngs". the problem is that doing so highly boosts the original tweeter because twitter sees that and thinks "this guy must be popular!" while everyone else down the thread will barely get any views, let alone likes or clicks.

small indies who don't know better hop on these and hope the visibility will help 'em out, when all it's doing it boosting jusagi's shit and only jusagi's shit. just go look at the tweets he makes like these (it's pretty much once a week), and scroll through the replies to see how little engagement all of the people who reply to him have compared to his tweet. it's a fucking scumbag move.

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>>1110275
i've unfortunately participated in those (not necessarily from him but i might have at one point) and while i hate to say it, you do get a bit of a boost in followers as well; or at least i have from them.

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>>1110336
>you do get a bit of a boost in followers
does that translate to activity and engagement? are you seeing similar numbers of people commenting, replying to you, and tagging you in other tweets? if so, congrats, you're one of the very rare lucky ones. in most other circumstances, it's only the main poster who gets the biggest boost in the algorithm.

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>>1110336
A lot of us indie chuubas have, since it feels like its the easiest form of "publicity", but it mainly helps out the OP.

I will say gained quite a followers from it, since I have a more masculine and unique model and I can sell myself a bit. but not a lot converted to stream followers.

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>>1110381
i've been tagged in tweets by other people on twitter and added to peoples lists as time has passed and i've been getting increasingly more engagement from my followers week by week but i don't know if that's directly related or if it just has to do with having more presence and followers

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So here's a question, since I've just rejoined Twitter.
How do you actually start getting engagement and spreading your message?
I'm trying to build as much of a following as I can before my debut because I would die inside if I had to debut to a silent chat and I need to learn how to use the platform all over again.

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>>1110706
Like >>1099422 said, it might not be a bad idea to post an introduction while also tagging your artist and rigger, especially if they're a big artist

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