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Apparently, YouTube is working on more live streaming features to rival Twitch, such as gifted subs/memberships and something similar to Twitch prime, that is, according to top streamer Valkrae.

https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/valkyrae-reveals-youtube-is-working-on-its-own-version-of-twitch-prime-and-gifted-subs-1659747/

Would you embrace these features for your YouTube chuubas? Would it ruin the experience?

>> No.10304142

>>10304064
This would basically make member only streams meaningless. Thankfully my oshi doesn't have memberships enabled

>> No.10304259

>>10304142
They better make it so gift subs don't have access to member streams, or at least an option to disable their access. Cheap fucks don't deserve it.

>> No.10304288

>>10304064
I mean, we've seen it already with clipping, now highlighted members messages and a few other ripped functions.

They had to if they wanted to attract the twitch crowd. I just wish they fixed their damn live streams issues and the fake viewer numbers they throw out.

Can easily see them making a special "free membership" for those with YT Premium.

Like with the messages, or raids on twitch, the chuuba will probably be able to disable them if they wanted it.

>> No.10304797

>>10304064
YouTube streaming isn't even stable enough as it is and regularly shits itself, so why do they want to add features that will only compound existing problems rather than fixing them? I knew they were retarded, but holy shit.

Beyond that, why mimic Twitch? Twitch has a successful model yeah, but Twitch is also a fucking shithole filled with some of the most retarded people and cancerous chats on the internet. Attracting those people to YouTube is a singularly shit idea because YouTube chats already have enough retards as it is.

>> No.10304849

>>10304064
Amazon Prime is great and has a ton of good things in it. Prime Gaming or whatever, the Twitch only portion is not worth any amount of money.

>> No.10304858

Gift memberships would be a bad idea given the antis Hololive attracts.

>> No.10304903

>>10304064
Are they going to fix the memory leak issue? I can't watch a stream for an hour before it starts lagging and buffering to shit, but it's never a problem on Twitch.

>> No.10304946

>>10304064
Why don't they try making a decent chat that won't use 70% of your CPU and lag the stream to shit and eventually break?

>> No.10304960

>>10304903
>Youtube fixing anything on their website
We'd have a higher chance of Cover bringing their Live2D technology up to indie levels before that ever happens.

>> No.10304995

>>10304946
Everyone using live chat deserves that

>> No.10305061

>>10304064
That would be the death of members only

>> No.10305153

>>10304946
You need a better CPU.
> This post was brought to you buy AMD R9 5950X.

>> No.10305282

The thing is it'd probably be good for regular streamers, but shit for the cesspit that is the vtuber "fanbase."

>> No.10305372

>>10304858
>Gift memberships would be a bad idea given the antis Hololive attracts.
THIS

>> No.10305455

Gifting subs on twitch is worst than donating bits
Twitch takes 50% from subs and 30% from donations

>> No.10306482

They should at least make it so if you have higher watchtimes on that channel you're more likely to get the random gifted memberships so we dont get too much autism in member streams

>> No.10306606

Youtube literally don't care about vtubers or hololive and this thread has nothing to do with vtubers either.

>> No.10307206

>>10304259
what's the point of gifting subs then

>> No.10307315

>>10307206
emotes, same as twitch

>> No.10307344

Gift subs are definitely trickier on YT since you have an official way of delivering sub only content, compared to Twitch which has none of that. I imagine some people would not like the exclusive club that membership is rn to be broken by gift subs. Buy gift subs are huge for the average creator and their revenue.

>> No.10307373

>>10307315
Can't argue with that.

>> No.10307417

>>10304064
No, jewtube is shit, I only member girls to post screenshots on /vt/ then unmember before payments

>> No.10307437

I have a feeling that you can turn that shit off so it will not affect holos all that much.

>> No.10307450

>>10307344
>compared to Twitch which has none of that.
Not true, most just don't do them. https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/subscriber-streams

>> No.10307461

>>10307437
Cover will not want it turned off, they like money too much.

>> No.10307487

>>10304064
please refer to them as "spam memberships". that's what they are.

>> No.10307513

Already been said. Great idea for your average IRL content creator, fucking terrible idea for Vtubing.

>> No.10307562

>>10304064
this is great for indies, terrible for big companies

>> No.10307634
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10307634

>>10307562
Pray tell, how do you believe the garden should be better walled off against such changes?

>> No.10307711

>>10305455
And yet the bits gimmick is almost dead on the water nowadays compared to gift bombs
>>10305061
>>10304858
>>10304142
>noooo think of my memberinos streams
You guys seriously expect jewtube to give a fuck about that? All they see is an extra opportunity to milk paypigs

>> No.10307761

>>10307634
Go back to your trash thread. Better yet, just go back to >>>/trash/.

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10307865

>>10307513
It helps indie Vtubers a lot. That's why they're all on Twitch, at least if their region has a Twitch audience. It's basically a subsidy. It's bad for the JP model though. Makes memberships a lot less meaningful. Since everyone here thinks Cover is a brilliant company I'm sure they will figure out how to adjust.

>> No.10307940

>>10307865
I only care about the JP model and you should too.

>> No.10307955

>>10305455
>30% from donations
Twitch can't even touch donos

>> No.10308045

>>10307865
>m-muh secret club
This is good for everyone

>> No.10308046

>>10307940
No, I will support the vtubers I find entertaining, regardless of what language they speak.

>> No.10309391

Why do you mouthbreathers act like members streams are some kind of sekrit club whose sanctity will be ruined by more people getting in? Holos still have hundreds to thousands of members, so gating the streams doesn't make them exclusive in any real way.

>> No.10309878

>>10304797
>Twitch is also a fucking shithole filled with some of the most retarded people and cancerous chats on the internet.
And youtube isn't?

>> No.10310155

I only member for cute emotes and a green name

Membering for parasocial reasons is pathetic and I hope your GFE experience gets ruined when youtube rolls out the changes.

>> No.10310259

>>10310155
based
I expect fandead and omaruza seethe to be very entertaining.

>> No.10310345

>>10309391
Well it still does filter a lot shitheads who don't want to pay for their content.

>> No.10310428
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10310428

people are actually upset that youtube will allow free subs and gift subs? thats incredibly pathetic.

I hope I get all the free subscriptions to the oshi's that you can't afford.

>> No.10310528

No one here is explaining how it's actually a bad thing to gift memberships and how it ruins member streams. The streamers get more money, you still get the same content. It changes nothing for you

>> No.10310625

>>10310528
If I have to explain how some random rich chink being able to buy membership for his personal army is bad I really doubt you will understand anything more nuanced than that, sorry

>> No.10310663

>>10304142
>member only streams meaningless
They're already meaningless retard. You're not closer to getting fucked by being a member, it just gives you access to extra streams. You'll still have access to extra streams regardless

>> No.10310794

>>10310625
I guarantee you this won't be an actual problem and the only thing that will happen on average is the streamer getting a lot of extra money. On the rare chance this happens, they should have actual mods in their streams to ban people.

>> No.10310869

I'm only baffled as to why Japan hasn't created their own streaming service for specific niches to get away from Western poison.

But yes, member only streams should and must be gated. I'd go so far as to say there should even be a tierlist based on your membership level.

>> No.10310925

How about they fix their live viewers counter? Stop cutting waiting to watching by 70%. What a nice feature that's been there since the 2nd week of December

>> No.10310947

>>10310869
you mean like NND?

>> No.10310962

>>10310528
>you still get the same content
Some vtubers feel more safe in their member streams and as a result are more open and relaxed etc. which might change when any random anti in chat can get membership for free.

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10310963

>>10310869
>to get away from Western poison
>member only streams should and must be gated

>> No.10310992

>>10310962
I think you're projecting a bit there, anon

>> No.10311015

>>10310992
Not an argument.

>> No.10311051

>>10311015
Neither is "I know how my fake girlfriend feels"

>> No.10311091

>>10311051
You must be autistic if you don't understand how the change might affect the type of content they are comfortable doing.

>> No.10311116

>>10311091
>you must be autistic
>>10310992

>> No.10311194

>>10310869
yeah why did vtubers copy the twitch game streaming format? They should throw that away in favor of japanese style manzai show comedy

>> No.10311246

>>10311116
>>10311015
You literally can't come up with a single counterpoint other than >muh projecting. Stop wasting time.

>> No.10311409

>>10311194
Are you seriously claiming that Twitch invented streaming video games?

>> No.10311457

>>10307711
You think no one knows that? YouTube memberships are good as is because they filter the retards which means the chuuba feels more comfortable, that and cute emotes is the reason people pay $5 every month.

>> No.10311510

>>10311409
claiming that westerners popularized it and jappos copied it to someone that believes in "Western poison"

>> No.10311578

>>10311510
They streamed video games in the exact same format before vtubing and Twitch, idiot. Westerners did not popularize anything.

>> No.10311671

>>10304797
>Twitch is also a fucking shithole filled with some of the most retarded people
the streamers cultivate their own chat culture, you retard. if you're seeing retarded people in chat, that's because you're watching normie tier shit.

>> No.10311749

>>10307344
>>10305372
>>10304858
>>10304142
>non gifted only Member streams
wow that was really fucking difficult

>> No.10311777

>>10310925
Just give the numbers time to update.

>> No.10312191

>>10311749
I doubt they would add that option considering it's not a thing on twitch either.

>> No.10312309

>>10311578
pretty sure westerners popularized it and game streaming is synonymous with twitch

>> No.10312361

>>10312309
False.

>> No.10312378

>>10304064
Yes, this has been teased for months. If you didn't know gift subs were getting close to release you haven't been paying attention.

>> No.10312490

>>10312361
not what the data aggregate sites say
not what general public opinion says

>> No.10312577

>>10312490
You are talking about Japanese streamers, retard. They streamed video games in the exact same way on niconico and vtuber stream format is based on that and not your retarded Twitch cancer.

>> No.10312590

>>10310869
NND, Milfdom, Twitcast, Abema...
Retard.

>> No.10312656

>>10312577
right nico always had donos and dono reading streams
fucking idiot

>> No.10312836

>>10312656
The popular "Twitch streaming format" doesn't include reading donations for an entire stream so you just self-destructed your entire argument.

>> No.10313065

>>10312836
>popular "Twitch streaming format" doesn't include reading donations for an entire stream
that's because >we have text to speech that reads them out loud as >we get them instead of hoarding them to squeeze out a money begging stream. besides that's only a thing that applies to Holos and bigger Nijis. 99.99% of other youtube streamers don't get enough superchats to dedicate a completely separate stream.

>> No.10313092

>>10306606
>youtube features
>don't have anything to do with virtual youtubers
wat?

>> No.10313177

I just hope that youtube will fucking implement community tab for a tablet app.

>> No.10313179

>>10313065
So in other words the streaming format is completely different and not at all the same as the one on Twitch
Also
>we have text to speech that reads them out loud
Nips have had that for over a decade.

>> No.10313277

>streaming is "completely different" depending on whether the website says youtube or twitch
probably one of the most retarded takes i've seen here and i've been in the Coco threads

>> No.10313353

>>10313208
Do you agree that Pomu is a less menhara Kiara?

>> No.10313542

>>10304064
I just want them to make a good ui tho. I dont want an extension just to see the chat while watching the stream.

>> No.10313557

>>10313277
it's some retard trying so hard to be japanese to the point that they're denying western streamers exist

>> No.10313919

>>10313353
>Do you agree that piss tastes better than poo?

>> No.10313949

>>10310155
>>10310428
NO SHE'S MINE I PAYED $4.99 A MONTH SO I COULD GET CLOSER TO HER (Even though we live in different countries or even if the same country she would probably never date me because of her job anyway) YOU POORFAGS DON'T DESERVE IT (even though more money goes towards her and helps support her and make a random viewer happy) I WILL NOT ALLOW YOU IN MEMBER STREAM I WILL SUE SUSAN FUCK TWITCH AND THEIR WHORES !

>> No.10313999

ITT: Holobronies who had never watched a livestream in their lives before Hololive came along parrot 4th hand inaccurate information about streaming platforms

>> No.10314017

>>10310869
>Western poison
YWNBJ
BTW, Japan is the most Americanized Asian country.

>> No.10314055

Reminder that there are are unironic paid shills working for Twitch on this board

>> No.10314071

>>10313557
You're claiming that japanese streamers are the same as western streamers.

>> No.10323602

>>10304064
Why don't Youtube and twitch just partner with one another?

>> No.10324584

>>10323602
Because it's literally against the law. Companies like Google and Amazon colluding to fuck people in the ass will result in an antitrust law suit quicker than you can say the n-word.

>> No.10324777

i want everyone on twitch's payroll to literally fucking die

>> No.10327257

reading this thread high is the funniest shit ever lol

>> No.10327534

It's not a bad idea when you simplify it.
>Member only streams limited to non-gifted subscribers
>Global emotes allowed at the streamer's decision (ex. Allow (YT username) emotes in chat?)
The only problem is getting youtube to program it correctly which they will inevitably fuck up.

>> No.10327623

>>10327534
YouTube has stated that they are against global emotes.

>> No.10331060

>>10327623
Thank fuck, emotes are a huge problem on Twitch. Sounds like whoever recently got promoted at youtube gaming knows what they're doing.

>> No.10333180

>>10327623
Well in this case if people wanted to use them in other chats, one party could send a request to the other party for permission.

>> No.10333238

>>10331060
lol how are they a "huge problem"

>> No.10334429

>>10313949
I was about ready to make this kind of shitpost, "NOT MY HECKIN MEMBERINOS!" Spergs crying about their secret club while chuubas have a new way for paypiggies to throw their money at them and increase viewer engagement from the free members that now feel like part of the in crowd because they're not a grey name anymore and would be more willing to leave comments and stay longer in streams.

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