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Why do western male vtubers fucking suck shit? Whats the actual reason that while western women can act as anime girls and vtubers and somehow keep up with Japanese styles/trends but western men cant at all? You might say its because western men dont want to act as a chuuni vtuber but ikemen vutbers dont represent male vtubers.There are plenty of Japanese "bro" type and comedian type vtubers. Western men cant even act as any of these. Whats the problem with them?

>> No.10099882

>>10099798
There's some good ones I can think of but won't name because I don't feel like defending "2views" on /vt/
They'll get hired for NijiEN inevitably
This is really just a pre-HoloEN type situation where people thought every western vtuber was bad even the females until they were exposed to them

>> No.10099883

no dude wants to stream with an anime avatar

>> No.10099916

>>10099883
false. they do but none of them can be popular

>> No.10099925

>>10099798
JPs are cool dudes that happen to be seductive,
Western are annoying guys that want to be seductive and watch too many harem animes

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>>10099798
they are not like kensama that train everyday with his katana

>> No.10100058

>>10099798
All the western men just become normal streamers, its way easier. At the same time i think that once Niji/Holo debuts ENmales the indie scene will blow the fuck up with guys trying to grab the crumbs.

>> No.10100075

For men being a vtuber is a debuff. If your personality/content is enough to make you a successful streamer then there's no reason to use an avatar at all, and if you're being carried by your design then you come off as fujobait.

>> No.10100080

>>10099883
Some do, but they choose the must fucking ugly designs imaginable and then wonder why nobody cares about them.

>> No.10100119

>>10099798
There's that gimp diglett dude, I think he's big?
There's the police dog dude.
There are a ton of dudes with voice changers or natural somewhat feminine voices streaming as females.

>> No.10100180

>>10099798
Western men are incels and incels are insecure.

>> No.10100277

>>10099798
>why do male vtubers fucking suck shit
Fixed it for you, just had to remove the "western" classification. Hopefully this helps you understand the issue better.

>> No.10100348

I've watched a few, and those I don't gel with I don't stick around long enough to be confident enough to say they flat out suck. But the few I do watch are pretty neat, so they don't all suck. They're probably just exceedingly rare.

>>10100277
Don't be a faggot.

>> No.10100399

>>10100348
>call somebody a faggot
>you are the one watching male vtubers
Seems kind of backwards no?

>> No.10100416

>>10100399
>not watching men
What are you, gay?

>> No.10100479

>>10100416
That makes no sense

>> No.10100664

>>10100479
And watching male streamers makes you gay does?

>> No.10100677

>>10099798
Wait for NisanjiEN wave 4. All indies atm are either faggots, groomers or pedos. I'm not joking either, go look at twitch, literally every EN male vtubers uses the LGBTQ tag, and the ones that don't use are probably /pol/niggers.

>> No.10100699

>>10100677
Where do you think wave 4 is coming from, buddy?

>> No.10100745

>>10100699
Elira's friends.

>> No.10100767

>>10100745
They're homos too.

>> No.10100781

>>10100664
I would say yes. If you are a man yourself why would you go out of your way to watch male vtubers?

>> No.10100811

>>10100767
Being gay is fine, being a faggot with a gay lisp isn't.

>> No.10100819

>>10100781
Entertainment

>> No.10100821

>>10099798
Many of these western men are 'low testosterone, high estrogen'

>> No.10100862

>>10100781
Gaming skills.

>> No.10100880

>>10099798
jp male vtubers generally aren't performing particularly well either. the only people that care about them in the first place are EOP girls. a lot of western streamers likely don't even know vtubers exist unless they fap to them, so of course any who do aren't very appealing to the general audience

>> No.10100929

>>10100399
I'm not fucking five. I don't believe I'll catch cooties from being in proximity with men, or whatever. But fine then, I'll amend myself. Don't be a retard.

>> No.10100970

>>10099882
>This is really just a pre-HoloEN type situation where people thought every western vtuber was bad even the females until they were exposed to them
NijiEN Wave 4 is going to be a gamechanger. Its only going to take one male to get the ball roiling in the west. That one ENmale doesn't even have to be Kanae-levels of successful, just barely successful enough to do it full time, and everything will change.

>> No.10100976

>>10100880
>jp male vtubers generally aren't performing particularly well either.
lol, the number thread is over there, you can face reality anytime you want.

>> No.10101026

>>10100880
Why are you people like this? Do you all actually enjoy talking out your asses?

>> No.10101157

>>10099882
>>10100970
I agree with both of these. Definitely gonna be more successful male vtubers in the future.

>> No.10102590

>>10099798
I thought she was a lesbian

>> No.10102625

>>10102590
All lesbians are at most bisexuals.

>> No.10102696

>>10102590
I'm gay but I've fapped to Sukoya before, nothing means anything

>> No.10103639

>>10099798
Why post him when there are better male vtubers at his level. "Don't worry the kaonashi pay for it" he isn't wrong but wow don't call your cucks out like that.

>> No.10103892

>>10099798
1. Western viewers aren’t into VTubing as much as the Japanese. So less of a market by comparison, with less opportunities for men.
2. Western viewers who like VTubing, tend to like females, because male VTubers seem gay-like to idolize, from the Western perspective.
3. Male VTubers will be more successful in JP, because they’re more open to it, and more likely to watch men.

>> No.10104235

>>10100819
>>10100862
Why not just watch regular male streamers then? Why vtubers?

>> No.10104422

>>10104235
Why not watch both?

>> No.10104502

>>10103892
2. Makes no Sense No one will call you a fag for watchin any 90s action movie. Oh you watched the Terminator? i bet you are gay, ...strangly enough his mother thought that and even sent for an doctor after she went into his room full with posters of halfnaked man. I recommend his autobiography but watching a guy does not make you gay. Is everyone who watches sports gay?
>>10104235
*gasp* I do both. Vtrubers can be better or worse then regular streamers.

>> No.10105896

>>10104502
>is everyone who watches sports gay?
Hate to break it to you but…

>> No.10106888

>>10104502
Do you own a doghouse?

>> No.10107929

>>10100781
men are easier to relate to than women
>>10104235
why watch female vtubers when you can watch ethots

>> No.10108017

>>10104235
The meta on twitch is being a piece of shit, they complain about everything, they berate their teammates, the chat, the game, the developer and rage everytime they lose. They don't have fun, it's just a rant stream, and if they're not complaining about games, then they're going to watch videos on youtube or talk about drama.
And in the pro scene it's pretty much the same, there is a huge difference between a japanese/korean streamer like Ras and FPS_shaka to ImperialHal.

>> No.10108590

NijiEN male wave is definitely going to be asians just like most of the girls were.

>> No.10108607

>>10107929
>why watch female vtubers when you can watch ethots
Because anime girls are way cuter and I want to watch something cute by someone who is also playing a character. But if you are watching someone strictly for their content (gaming, education, talk, etc) then it doesn't really make a difference and their physical self will be far more expressive than a vtuber model.

>> No.10108963

>>10108607
If you're watching someone purely for their content, then it doesn't matter if it's guy using an avatar or a webcam.

>> No.10109121

>>10108963
protonjon vtuber when
he's an ugly ass mofo with a sexy ass voice

>> No.10109623

NijiEN Males will be a bust. They are going to choose the "safest" picks, which means bilingual Asian beta cardboard personality Male Vtubers.

>> No.10109661
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>>10108590
Get ready to simp for Domoarigathanks and some faggot who's in it for the nijienpussy

>> No.10109740

>>10099991
Nagao Kei from Nijisanji trains with his sword actually

>> No.10109813

>>10100677
I can't wait for Niji's omni-gendered, lispy, bisexual, edging voice faggot that will never break 1K views.

>> No.10109817

>>10108017
Shaka is actually pretty fun to watch I like it when he runs to his wife mid-stream.

>> No.10109864

>>10109661
WooHooLad will be in Gen4.

>> No.10109936

>>10109661
>Domoarigathanks
That faggot is the very definition of a vtweeter with his head so far up his ass that he thinks making a "documentary" about VTubers will be anything but a waste of time and money. But all the indies simp for him because they think getting an interview with him is how they'll "make it"

>> No.10109969

>>10099883
I dunno, I think the actual issue is that western guys who stream with anime avatars also tend to be very feminine dudes.

>> No.10110653

>>10099798
Because in Japan male e celebs are usually polite and in the West male e celebs are usually abrasive. Vtuber fans are used to Japanese politeness so when they go find Western streamers and listen to their constant negativity it's a turn off. Men are afraid of acting nice, but women can do it easily.
Even the Japanese bro and comedians are nice and won't go over boundaries.

>> No.10111590

what is the actual criticism here? there are plenty of male envtubers who don't suck.

>> No.10111614

>>10111590
Like who?

>> No.10111649

>>10111614
depends. what kind of streamer are you looking for? asmr? laid back? friendly? high energy? variety streamer?

>> No.10111796

why do western losers try so hard to become japanese is the better question

>> No.10111898

>>10111649
Able to talk to chat well, no dead air, no menhera moments, no self pity over how female vtubers get more attention, and no reliance on FPS
Singing would be a plus but I watch many non-singers anyway.

>> No.10112126

>>10111898
that's not even a male thing. that's just a streamer thing.

>> No.10112163

>>10112126
I'm going to be honest every time I'm linked an English speaking vtuber he doesn't hit these qualities.

>> No.10112176

>>10099798
kys homofag

>> No.10112307

>>10112163
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyLXDjCKxeU

>> No.10112507

>>10112307
>debuff
is hank hill /here/?

>> No.10112788

>>10112307
I've watched his videos. but is there only 1 okay one?

>> No.10112881

Wasn't VRChat a big thing a few years ago?
I can see one of the popular ones becoming vtubers.

>> No.10112946

the reason why there's no western male vtubers is because the big companies haven't done them yet. lets be real, if you're not in nijisanji, hololive or vshoujo you're a 2view and you'll never grow
that's the harsh truth.
And don't come to me with the nijis ID, because that's a debuff itself, they can barely speak english

>> No.10112949

>>10112307
>I want the elfslut audience

>> No.10113021

>>10112949
>he doesn't want elfsluts riding his orcdick

>> No.10113067

>>10102590
She's bi. She thirsts for males just as easily if you trigger her kink

>> No.10113159

>>10113067
This, she was practically cooming over the Ryushen skit stream where they had a bunch of guys act out vomit scenes

>> No.10113984

>>10109623
>bilingual Asian beta cardboard personality Male Vtubers.
better than 24 year old white boy from the suburbs who doesn't have a personality outside of anime opening theme songs

>> No.10114161

>>10113984
gb2 r/sino

>> No.10114206

>>10114161
t. 24 year old white boy from the suburbs who doesn't have a personality outside of anime opening theme songs
seethe more, maybe if you had a personality you could audition for NijiEN males

>> No.10114279

>>10109623
I don't get why watching girls who copy Japanese women and speak in English is fine but when guys do it your panties get in a twist.

>> No.10114313

>>10114206
He's too busy fucking your sister to apply for that dead end

>>10114279
Japanese is a beta language, simple as

>> No.10114399

would you really want to see a white chad vtuber?

>> No.10114443

>>10114399
what are your thoughts on consent?

>> No.10114446

>>10114399
Whites have already dominated as live streamers, Asians are picking up the scraps as cartoons because no one wants to see their mongo faces

>> No.10114500

>>10099798
1. the vast majority of western male chuubas being indies, meaning no quality control
2. the larger amount of JP male chuubas meaning it's more likely for some of them to be good.

>> No.10114899

>>10100075
>and if you're being carried by your design then you come off as fujobait.
By people that don't know what a Fujo is, maybe, how on earth could you be fujobait just by design if you are not interacting with a different male that they can ship you with? if your design makes women want to fuck you then it is Yume bait, not fujo bait

>> No.10114976

>>10114899
There is literally no point to correcting people who think fujo=yume and I cannot think of a single male who is "carried by his design", no one will watch an ikemen vtuber if he sucks at streaming. I can understand someone watching a girl vtuber with huge tits who drops the occassional mommy line being carried by her design. But males? No.

>> No.10115198

>>10114279
They don't copy Japanese women. They copy anime women. There's a big difference.

>> No.10115499

>>10112307
This is a good video, the guy in the video also has a design that is not shit, so thanks for sharing OP, 40-50 viewers per stream is also not that bad for an indie

>> No.10119963

>>10104235
Because vtuber had cute/handsome model? How the fuck want to see real human face

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>>10099798

>> No.10120141

>>10109864
Thx anon, gonna anti him to death as he is hololive tribalfag

>> No.10120150

why don't males just commission an attractive male anime model? take some voice acting reps and rake in the fujo money.

>> No.10120199

>>10120129
Would be better if he stuck with the avatar instead of dropping it after a week.

>> No.10120314

>>10120199
>better
it was just a stunt intended to mock and make fun of male vtubers who try too hard. they can try all they want, but a joke throwaway vtuber model netted him more cash than any male vtuber will make in their lives.

>> No.10120451

>>10120314
Saying he got any of that money from vtuber fans is disingenuous he is one of the biggest Twitch streamers and is always doing stunts that last a week or so. Like saying him burning uberrare pokemon cards got him donations from actual pokemon fans

>> No.10128643

>>10099991
Didn't he die in a boat accident and that's not Ken?

>> No.10129443

>>10099798
just wait for my debut. i won't appeal to fujoshit and my main stream content will be zatsudan, having a few beers with the bros and occasionally playing boomer games.

>> No.10129542

The same applies to women. HoloEN for example tried the “anime girl but real” act for the first few months but now the girls all act like regular female twitch streamers (notice that I didn’t say twitch thot, there’s a difference). Just compare Gura’s first vidya stream to her latest stream. Fucking day and night.
The fact is Westerners can’t keep up the anime in real life act for long, men or women

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>>10100677
>Wait for NisanjiEN wave 4.
INTRODUCING

>> No.10130617

>>10120150
More than one literal paid professional male voice actor became a vtuber and performed way worse than women with just half of their following going in. The male debuff is real in the west and anyone who says otherwise is fucking insane. The only question is what the actual reason for it is.

Honestly though I really feel like "there aren't actually that many people who want to watch anime dudes" is probably the case.

>> No.10130654

>>10129443
Having beers with the bros is fujobait. I don't think anyone here really understands what fujobait means, simply talking to a male + having a good amount of live viewers who make fan content = fujo explosion.

>> No.10130676
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>>10102590
Banderas is just that chad.

>> No.10130787

>>10099882
fpbp

>> No.10131723

>>10120129
>Guy who rigged this said it was his second "real" rig.
>Cover keeps using superior nihongo rhombus
Really tells alot about our society.

>> No.10134059

>>10099798
I'm not a pro on this or some shit, but I feel that's it either one of 2 things. Either language inherently carries a culture with it, or how a language is dictates actions. I don't think it's a matter of western people, as much as it is just a case of the english language and the limits of how acting whilst speaking it works. Just like how people inherently speak respectfully when learning Japanese (as far as I've heard). Also the reason why some languages sound angry or sweet. When I speak Russian I become an asshole.

>> No.10134148

>>10130333
NO NO MAKE IT STOP

>> No.10134318

>>10110653
Are men being afraid to act nice a thing? I've never heard of that before, among almost all the men I've met

>> No.10134331

>>10134318
In real life it isn't true but as entertainers, crass or abrasive ones are the most popular.

>> No.10134380

>>10134331
Oh that's what you meant. Now that I think about it, you jave a good point, I do notice that a lot

>> No.10134707

Western male vtubers are shit cause most of them play shitty battle royale/multiplayer games while hanging out with their circle of thots and boring ass niggas. Find me someone that is a lone wolf but dedicates their time to witty commentary and great single player games

>> No.10135135

>>10128643
That's Kairo not Ken. And yes, that is Ken

>> No.10135321

>>10134707
Was about to day Kamiya Jew but when he actually streams, he's not really a lone wolf.

>> No.10139487

>>10135321
Guess I have to look more or do it myself, why is it so hard to find a chill gamer dude that plays different things as a vtuber?

>> No.10141262

>>10130333
I'd kill myself...

>> No.10141885

>>10099882
>This is really just a pre-HoloEN type situation where people thought every western vtuber was bad even the females until they were exposed to them
But they are all bad, the fact that the masses have shit taste and became popular doesn't chage the fact they're all awful

>> No.10142935

You guys have way too much faith in NijiEN males when it's just going to be dudes from Elira's friend circle and don't expect a kino game nerd from that

>> No.10143668

If the Niji males had at least one trap I'd be happy.

>> No.10144296

>>10099798
Western male streamers too busy grooming to develop a character.

>> No.10144467

>>10130333
He'd be out of his mind to give up that many subs, but you can bet your ass that he'll try to worm his way into collabs.

>> No.10144507

>>10130333
Nijisanji is literally suing Narukami, what makes you think they will want the EOP version of him.

>> No.10144627

>>10104235
There's like 4 good popular regular male streamers in existence. Everyone else is either a politicsfag, a dramafag, a boring "pro" gamer, a fag who thinks smugness = personality, a fag who thinks anger = comedy, or a fag who thinks watching youtube clips = content. On the other hand, holostars and Gweilu from Nijisanji are great.

>> No.10144973

>>10139487
Mocca used to be that in between whiny menhera outbursts.

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>>10099798
Have you heard about Kamiya Juu? The rising star of flip male vtuber?

>> No.10150619

>>10144507
Why would they figuratively sue him?

>> No.10150813

>>10109740
>I'll never get to autistically talk about sword fighting with Nagao and compare the differences between Japanese and European styles.
Feelsbadman

>> No.10152145

>>10099798
The only western male vtuber I've seen that I liked at all was Deat and I stopped paying attention to him when he shifted to streaming over produced videos. Every other western male vtuber I've seen is a massive faggot with a high-pitched nasal voice.

>> No.10152428

>>10152145
This. Also anime shit is pretty normal for people over in Japan. This is why you have guys like Belmond, Kagami Hayato, Rikka, Maimoto, and Aruran (aged but normal cool dudes) doing this kind of thing. In the West you get a bunch of weebs, nerds, etc that like anime. You expect GenX or Boomers to do this kind of thing? Hell no. There are some people that can pull this crap off sure, there's always an exception to the rule out there somewhere. But who fits the criteria for what we (you) are looking for that will willing do this for fun/hobby and isn't a massive faggot?

Fuck, I'd give it a shot but I have no notable talents and I don't care for the western scene outside of companies since it's a dumpster fire of drama freaks.

>> No.10152539

>>10142935
So lispy fags?

>> No.10152557

>>10152428
>GenX or Boomers
Bro everyone you listed is barely even 30

>> No.10152639

>>10152557
Do your reps dude.

>> No.10153064

>>10145092

Get out

>> No.10153379

>>10145092
He actually highlights why I hate most english speaking male vtubers
>zoomer memes
>leeching
>ironic fanservice (Omg I'm so embarrassed I have to pander to women because I am male)
Also this is a nitpick but he put on this Corpse Husband tier vocal fry in his voice that wasn't present at all in his old videos and it's infuriating to listen to

>> No.10154130

>>10142935
He is a decent singer, is not an EOP, hot IRL and is also gay so unicorns will not feel threatened, good potential if you ask me.

>> No.10154201

I'd rather be a babiniku

>> No.10154326

>>10112307
I wasn't expecting an actual proper and good video with a title like that.

>> No.10154485

>>10134331
>>10110653
I think one of the major reasons Hololive became so big is because positivity is a major part of their brand and characters. It's a breath of fresh air among all the e-celebs that spend all their time shitting on everything.

>> No.10154609

>>10154130
Who are you talking about? I've seen these vague mentions a couple of times now

>> No.10154749

>>10154130
Are you talking about the nonbinary blue one? I don't think he's joining at all.

>> No.10154755

I will anti any male vtubers

>> No.10154796

>>10154755
anti me then.

>> No.10155113

>>10154749
Well, if it's him I'd be happy.

>> No.10155441

>Nux exists
>Randon exists
>Takahata exists
>WooHooLad exists
>Admiral Bahroo exists
>Kitty McPancakes exists

>> No.10155554

>>10154609
Replying to myself just say I've found it, in case anyone else is curious. pearlish
His current model is really good. The whole NB thing is not for me, though.

>> No.10155643

>>10155441
>all shit
fixed it for you

>> No.10155677

>>10155643
they're all more successful than you 2view no name.

>> No.10155764

>>10155441
>literal who and also twitch shit
Don't care.

>> No.10155787

>>10155764
YWNBJ

>> No.10155916

>>10155441
>leech
>who
>sexual deviant
>who
>does not apply
>sexual deviant

>> No.10155967

>>10155916
>b-b--b-but here are arbitrary reasons why they're not actually successful male vtubers!

>> No.10156042

>>10155764
>twitch
>best platform for EN indies

when will you holofags learn? Even one of the statistically best streams at the time from NijiEN was on Twitch.

>> No.10156184

>>10155967
I never said they were unsuccessful, you sound like a seething indie. Just pointing out those are the traits of popular male vtubers who speak English. You can also throw in the furry Discord faggot too, he's one of the most popular who started off from scratch unlike Bahroo.

>> No.10156205

Oh no, the vshojocuck woke up.

>> No.10156283

>>10155441

Nux was already popular, as were Taka and AdmiralBahroo and Woohoolad is a literal nobody with a dwindling audience, there's people who started a few months ago bigger than him.

Rand and Kitty I'll give you and it just goes to show you actually need to put in way more work OR have the personality/charm for it in Kitty's case..

>> No.10156410

>>10156184
>>10156283
blame your fellow burgers and males for supporting and encouraging that type of shit content. your amerifatts have pathetic attentionspans that the only thing that keeps your focus is 2nd grader tier humor so that's what you get.

>> No.10156469

>>10156410
show me good content

>> No.10156519

>>10156469
>show me good content
>he says without establishing objective metrics so he can move goalposts whenever something doesn't personally appeal to him

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>>10156469
You will NEVER be this fucking cool. EVER.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpa3Wx1Q1iA

>> No.10156843

>>10099798
You have to both pretend to like and be nice to your cringe viewers like all streamers do, and make sure you stay in character. The Japanese are used to the pretend to be nice in public thing with their two masks thing.

>> No.10157169

I don't care about the actual vtuber part itself for males, I just hope male vtubers let me find cool streamers who are into otaku stuff above a super-casual level. Probably not though.

>> No.10157426

>>10153379
isn't vocal fry usually done on purpose? does he not realize it's agitating?

>> No.10157549

>>10157426
It's obviously working out extremely well, why would he stop?

>> No.10157914

>>10155677
nta but success does not equate to quality

>> No.10158111

>>10155677
So is Adam Sandler.

>> No.10158177

>>10157426
It's agitating to normal people but it makes teenage girls lose their minds

>> No.10158253

>>10158111
yes, and a vtuber who can act and perform like Adam Sandler will do just as well.
>>10157914
there's enough "quality" that they're all financially successful. just because you personally do not like watching them doesn't mean they aren't "quality"

>> No.10158660

>>10099798
>Whoring yourself out for attention on the internet
Right, people do that all the time.
>As a man
There are people this pathetic on the planet? I mean, I know women get away with it, but they're women. We expect them to get paid twice as much for half the work.

>> No.10159016

>>10135135
But I remember after the 2011 quake, /a/ was looking for their /jp/ hero and couldn't find him.

>> No.10159258

>>10100781
if you find it easier to relate and be entertained by cute anime girls, to such an extent that you subconsciously begin to believe that watching a male vtuber would be some sort of attack to your own sexuality, you may be a faggot

>> No.10159816

Please just give me a western male vtuber that doesn't act like a children's entertainer on twitch, or is some femboy faggot.
Someone like banderas or aruran. Or even someone who can be cool and funny, while also not taking himself too seriously like kanae.

>> No.10160958

>>10159816
none exist. that's the problem.

>> No.10164080

>>10142935
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case considering how they have handled their hires so far.
Wouldn't be surprised if they also got people from whatver circles the other girls were in.

>> No.10166299

No market for it because of different beauty standards. Western women would rather just watch a guy with a facecam and the gays would rather watch degenerates in digital fursuits. Any guy actually charismatic enough to make it beyond a 2view as one would be better off just streaming normally and not limiting his audience by larping as some metrosexual anime faggot.

>> No.10174025

>>10154130
>and is also gay
terrible, fujos don't want actual gay men and neither do yumes or men. Dead in a week.

>> No.10174172

>>10166299
>metrosexual anime faggot.
Just because you think all anime men are metrosexual and faggots doesn't make it true

>> No.10174658

>>10174172
link a good male vtuber who isn't metrosexual then

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