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/#/ numbers thread Anonymous Mon Sep 20 11:58:57 2021 No.10090825 [Reply] [Original]

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Anonymous Mon Sep 20 11:59:25 2021 No.10090838

>>10090825
ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 11:59:36 2021 No.10090843 >>10090825 There is one already in the catalog: >>10090758 let this one die

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:00:06 2021 No.10090861 you people expecting them to get 10k capacity or something with Corona going around? 3k is fine for a starting step.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:00:35 2021 No.10090877 >>10090843 yeaaahhhh, nah

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:00:59 2021 No.10090897 File: 48 KB, 1005x208, Screenshot - 2021-09-20 , 12_57_38.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] HOW DO WE SAVE JUN LADS?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:01:38 2021 No.10090915 File: 56 KB, 540x540, 540_540_102400.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] By the way last week's Nijisanji event was in Zepp Osaka Bayside with 2,801 people capacity (and that's just one of four they've had in four weeks)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:02:44 2021 No.10090947 >>10090897 G R A D U A T I O N! Oh wait that doesn't really work for an IRL streamer does it. Huh. Have him collab with Kuzuha, that'll surely get numbers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:03:45 2021 No.10090979 >>10090861 >>10090915 They can only admit 50% capacity because of the covid thing so most of the revenue will be on online ticket sales and merch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:03:52 2021 No.10090988 >>10090915 If only concert numbers could be numberfagged. Holofest might do a physical venue this year, and the online attendance would be in the 30k range from overseas fans.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:04:36 2021 No.10091014 File: 216 KB, 476x531, 1628331298751.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10090947 IRL streamers can very much graduate if they want to.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:04:52 2021 No.10091026 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Dome_City_Hall This is the stadium they are talking about. It seats about 3k people so it isn't small but it's not the Tokyo dome.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:05:59 2021 No.10091054 File: 105 KB, 431x401, 1605475548381.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Gen 2 live concert...

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:06:07 2021 No.10091059

>>10090897
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46dSrpTIfsE
Yikes bro, 4.2k dislikes.

>>10090915
I think both companies don't have trouble maxing out the physical venue. For Watame and Suisei's irl lives, they have a lottery system where you have to be lucky enough to have your ticket drawn and live in Tokyo to attend it physically.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:06:18 2021 No.10091064 File: 167 KB, 837x917, Screenshot - 2021-09-20 , 13_03_10.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >THE DAY SO FAR With the whole Gen 3 on the main channel there will be lots of notable absences in today's top.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:06:25 2021 No.10091070 >>10091026 Not the best but Covid is not gonna allow large audiences anyway, even though 3rd gen can definitely rake in numbers. Also 50% capacity apparently.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:06:38 2021 No.10091073 >>10090979 kek I saw one of the events held in zepp diver something. The place was full. No spaces in between. If cover followed protocols and halved the venue's max seats, I'll give them an A+ for not risking the viewers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:06:47 2021 No.10091079 >>10091026 Yep. These are important though, gotta build your way up showing you can sell these out before you go for the bigger venues.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:07:18 2021 No.10091089 >>10091026 They are probably using the place just so that they can say that they are doing a live concert. We know most of their cash comes from online ticket sales and merch profits

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:08:31 2021 No.10091125 >>10090988 We can try with the illegal restreams.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:08:49 2021 No.10091134 File: 259 KB, 562x396, BTS UN.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 5 min mute stream oh the sound is back

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:09:20 2021 No.10091152 >>10091125 # and Artemis collab confirmed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:10:08 2021 No.10091185 >>10091125 lol yeah that's overseas fans for ya

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:11:33 2021 No.10091232 I wonder if Migoti can make it to 2 20ks today

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:11:59 2021 No.10091243 >>10091134 You know that no one is watching this shit if BTS wasn't attending. Even Biden gets mogged by Holos when he streams.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:12:02 2021 No.10091246 From how much the thread pop up Kuzuha, you'd think he has a legion of fans globally as well...But nope, seriously though, if you like him so much, it wouldn't hurt to help promote him to audience outside of Japan you know.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:12:36 2021 No.10091263 File: 180 KB, 389x339, 1600688922603.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091054

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:13:42 2021 No.10091292 >>10091243 Biden is a legit 2view though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:13:58 2021 No.10091300 >>10091243 The point is not UN,obviously.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:14:17 2021 No.10091309 >>10091054 They have Aqua for that

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:14:23 2021 No.10091312 File: 67 KB, 454x532, 1612221603788.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091054 Subaru please organize one just like what Matsuri managed to do.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:15:04 2021 No.10091336 >>10091246 Anon no one here actually watches kuzuha. Most of the people here are surface level vtuber fans and just want to jerk off to numbers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:15:59 2021 No.10091359 File: 620 KB, 768x1327, haachabaelz.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091312 >blocks your birthday concert NOTHING PERSONEL, KIDDO!

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:16:10 2021 No.10091367 >>10091246 The things is, Kuzuha is no different than a normal streamer so what's the point of introducing someone like asmongold/xqc to the Japanese?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:17:20 2021 No.10091391 >>10091336 You mean mostly holofans, notice that what is happening in the streams do get commented on by anons here to explain why the numbers are like that whilst for nijis you just have people looking at the numbers on stream.

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:18:32 2021 No.10091422

>>10091246
>From how much the thread pop up Kuzuha, you'd think he has a legion of fans globally as well
>Kuzuha gets mentioned a lot in a thread that maxes out at 80 unique IPs so he must be popular globally
Kek.

But for real, why the fuck are you faggots so insecure when it comes to Kuzuha?
He gets big numbers, so he gets mentioned in the numbers thread.
If you don't like it, just ignore the posts mentioning him.
Holos get big numbers too so idk why you guys feel so threatened that there exists another vtuber that's on the same level as top-tier holos.

None of the fuckers who shitpost using him care about him anyways. He's just a tool to them to stir shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:18:35 2021 No.10091424 >>10091089 That and they are testing it out, in case the chinkflu makes another comeback and they have to cancel it wouldn't cost them as much.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:19:36 2021 No.10091449 File: 11 KB, 679x122, Screenshot - 2021-09-20 , 13_18_17.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Gura still @ 150k / months Question: will she hit 3.5M before Kizuna AI hits 3M? Bolder question: will she hit 4M before?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:20:11 2021 No.10091467 >>10091391 Not like anyone of the anons who suck off Kuzuha know enough Japanese to understand what he’s saying. Holos usually have a live TL.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:20:42 2021 No.10091483 >>10091449 I wouldn't be surprised if even the bold claim comes true.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:21:18 2021 No.10091495 >>10091367 Hololive isn't different from e-thots either.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:22:15 2021 No.10091519 >>10091495 It is different in the sense they don't show even an ankle on stream.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:22:20 2021 No.10091521 >>10091495 Coco's no longer active in Hololive though?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:22:49 2021 No.10091530 >>10091449 3.5 mil? Possibly. 4m? Doubtful unless she gets ANOTHER explosion in popularity, like releasing a song that goes mainstream like say......a Country Single with an MV.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:22:51 2021 No.10091532 >>10091449 Kizuna has been stuck in 2.98M limbo for forever. Gura is gonna release a new song, release an mv for that song, AND collab with Polka before Ai reaches 3 mil.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:23:00 2021 No.10091539 >>10091449 it's probably because of her anniversary

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:23:15 2021 No.10091545 >>10091519 Yeah.. they just sc bait incels with shameless GFE pandering instead.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:23:16 2021 No.10091546 File: 254 KB, 1797x856, Screenshot - 2021-09-20 , 13_21_00.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is Kanata inclining into a consistent 10k streamer?

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:23:34 2021 No.10091552

>>10091449
First one, definitely. Kizuna Ai hasn't moved from 2.98k in two months and she definitely won't make another 20k in a month and a half.
I wouldn't be surprised if she reaches 4k before kizuna Ai hit three, especially if she starts uploading more song covers like she said she would.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:23:43 2021 No.10091555 >>10091073 yeah why does niji can get away with not abiding to the covid restrictions while holos is so scared about it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:24:13 2021 No.10091567 >>10091546 she already has been for a good while

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:24:22 2021 No.10091570 >>10091546 She's been there for a while now anon. Kanata is pretty good with her numbers. Of course, feel free to give me ccv data. Since I do not have that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:24:39 2021 No.10091574 >>10091246 There's a handful of English speaking yumejo in his and Kanae's chat. But either way overseas fans tend to be more fickle, there's nothing bad about cultivating a more dedicated domestic audience

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:24:50 2021 No.10091578 >>10091449 Holy fuck, how in the hell is she still gaining that many? I thought Gura was dead already.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:25:16 2021 No.10091582 >>10091555 heh here we go with illegal niji concerts again

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:25:22 2021 No.10091585 >>10091546 >Is Kanata inclining into a consistent 10k streamer? This has been the case since Coco's graduation month and the Axolotl breeding arc. Kanata does suffer from fanbase overlap tho so her CCV gets shredded in multi-POVs like MK and Among Us.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:25:53 2021 No.10091596 >>10091539 The King cover has more impact than anniversary i think, consider the time span between each 10k she gains.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:26:03 2021 No.10091603 >>10091449 Gura is gonna hit 4 million before anyone in holo will be able to reach 2M. >>10091578 You need to check things outside /vt/ or your opinion on chuubas will be out of touch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:26:05 2021 No.10091606 >>10091546 Kanata's gonna be one of the high tier holos soon, her superchats are also reflecting that when her position keeps rising.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:27:06 2021 No.10091629 >>10091495 Not here, Hana.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:27:08 2021 No.10091630 File: 415 KB, 1168x1011, Screenshot - 2021-09-20 , 13_26_02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091567 >>10091570 >>10091585 >>10091606 Now that you guys mention, she's pretty much there already. >pic related

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:27:54 2021 No.10091651 File: 7 KB, 300x274, unnamed.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091546 Not even her final form

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:29:10 2021 No.10091673 >>10091243 >Biden who? is this indi or corp?

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:29:45 2021 No.10091693

>>10091585
I dunno how much tatsunoko's still hang around her since sometimes she'll talk about Coco, though its not like Coco had big numbers anyway besides during Meme Reviews, id chalk it more to them contributing to Kanata's superchat earnings more than views.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:30:24 2021 No.10091713 >>10091673 It's the new VA of that big corp. Ratings dropped like crazy tho, it turns out people wanted to watch a clown show with an actual clown instead of one with a former straight man not in his prime.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:31:13 2021 No.10091731 >>10091693 And yet Kson is still making boatloads of money Are Tatsunokos just rich as fuck?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:31:56 2021 No.10091752 >>10091582 i'm not trying to start anything here, i'm just genuinely wondering why does suisei and watame is still in limbo if they can have physical attendance or not while niji is spamming concerts left and right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:32:21 2021 No.10091758 >>10091578 This is why you need to come into contact with reality more often

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:32:55 2021 No.10091776 >>10091606 damn... So all that Coco leeching is really paying off now.

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:35:17 2021 No.10091853

>>10091752
It depends heavily on the prefectures these concerts are taking place at, as each one may have different rules in place. The ones that went ahead with Niji likely had different restrictions in place than the ones that Watame and Suisei have, so they need to wait until they can confirm for those.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:38:02 2021 No.10091902 >>10091555 In Japan the restrictions differ from prefecture to prefecture. The government doesn’t have the power to force them to do anything. The ones Nijis are hosting at are less restrictive.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:39:10 2021 No.10091922 >>10091449 She will most likely get 3.5M before Kizuna's 3M, yes. 4M is probably too much tho.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:40:11 2021 No.10091949 File: 353 KB, 953x728, kson.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091731 the last few streams of hers haven't been anything to special sc wise. it remains to be seen how it will stabilize in the end

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:45:01 2021 No.10092066 File: 158 KB, 1151x314, oh no no no.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hello? Is this Oozora police? I would like to report a mogging crime against the shartoids.

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:45:18 2021 No.10092077

>>10091752
Real answer: the Japanese government does not actually have the ability to enforce a quarantine. They can heavily suggest and impose fines for non compliance but that's the extent of it. So it's really up to each individual venue if they want to go through with having crowds or not.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:49:45 2021 No.10092189 File: 292 KB, 1067x1200, E8ZdGmdUUAEIAp3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Oh yeah there's also this thing happening next month

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:52:48 2021 No.10092277 >>10092189 If it weren't for the bottom right group, id have thought this was showing the roommates of those vtubers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:52:59 2021 No.10092283 >>10091312 Subaru can't even get her own concert

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:54:55 2021 No.10092337 >>10092189 Can't make sense what this is about. Sukoya and Sister claire doesn't seem to be the type who would perform on a stage

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:55:56 2021 No.10092358 Wasn't tthere supposed to be constant big niji events for this week? What is supposed to be happening today? The quiz is yesterday and a 3d is tomorrow?

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:00:48 2021 No.10092484

>>10092358
Yes. Lemme go dredge the list up.
From this >>9936233
Monday: https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1437702731423158273 NijiQuiz big collab (DONE, 48k)
Wednesday: https://twitter.com/PokerChase_JP/status/1438778605555699713 Poker Chase x Edengumi
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1438050019752521735 Mao 3D reveal
Thursday: https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1438759678696067077 Singing relay
https://twitter.com/mtgjp/status/1438336933680205827 MTG collab
Friday: https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1438827577360076805 SmashBros tournament
Saturday: https://twitter.com/pj_sekai/status/1433755919393779714 Project Sekai team match
https://party.rage-esports.jp/2021autumn/ Apex Arena Challenge Cup
Sunday: https://twitter.com/midori_2434/status/1438465344310439937 Nijirock 3D with live band

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:02:29 2021 No.10092535 File: 21 KB, 244x155, based hajime.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Kneel. Holostars on suicide watch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:03:03 2021 No.10092542 >>10092484 >First big Niji "Event" with 10+ members can't hit 50k Not off to a good start Nijiniggers

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:03:13 2021 No.10092548 >>10092484 Which one can top holo fantasy number today? The 3D debut? Singing relay? i thought niji won't do any relay because of illegal funneling

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:03:38 2021 No.10092558 >>10092484 All sub 50k except the smashbros tournament

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:03:57 2021 No.10092567 >>10092484 Yer list is missing the 3d tomorrow mate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:05:08 2021 No.10092595 >>10092567 Please check the tweet. The 3d IS on Wednesday, the 22nd.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:05:09 2021 No.10092597 File: 31 KB, 128x128, sip.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091064 depends, 3rd gen viewers are up for grab today, but doesn't look anyone scheduled anything interesting today

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:05:14 2021 No.10092601 >>10092548 Nothings is gonna top that you stupid, it's fucking all of Gen 3. From a logical perspective they can't be topped

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:05:59 2021 No.10092618 >>10092558 machukai isn't going to be sub 50k retard

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:06:48 2021 No.10092638 File: 88 KB, 1210x808, Screenshot - 2021-09-20 , 14_06_06.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10092535 >Holostars on suicide watch. A-Anon...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:08:40 2021 No.10092703 >>10092066 >>10092535 >b-but my narrative>>10092638

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:09:50 2021 No.10092736 The 3rd Gen concert falls on an American holiday, nice.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:12:14 2021 No.10092803 >>10092077 so niji is technically not abiding the covid restrisctions right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:13:01 2021 No.10092823 >>10092736 Talking about holidays, since I just checked, why is your Labor Day 6th of September instead of 1st of May like the rest of the world? Was that some sort of US' founders' coomers joke?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:13:02 2021 No.10092824 >>10092638 Ok, you get to keep that one, but the rest of the sharts below Hajime need to graduate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:14:06 2021 No.10092847 >>10091902 one of the niji concerts is in zepp tokyo, the same as watame, and the concert hall is packed then.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:15:33 2021 No.10092877 >>10092803 Hard to say without knowing about the details, but if they've been filling their venues to their maximum pre-Covid capacity, yes (unless Niji somehow sorted it out with the government one way or another)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:16:44 2021 No.10092902 >>10092823 It’s just the day that labor unions from the 1800s chose to celebrate the holiday.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:17:15 2021 No.10092912 >>10092847 Will Nijis get flack if due to their concert there will be an increase in spread of covid or will they just consider it as tough luck and risk people have to accept?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:19:42 2021 No.10092966 File: 89 KB, 1211x805, Screenshot - 2021-09-20 , 14_18_45.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10092824 I don't know anon, I think I'll check all of them to be sure which ones can be kept. Likely all?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:20:09 2021 No.10092980 >>10092912 Well if one of their concerts turn into a Covid hot spot they will definitely get flak, until then it's just a potential pr disaster waiting to happen.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:24:06 2021 No.10093066 >>10092337 Denon-bu live concert, basically Bamco's answer to D4DJ. Sukoya, Claire, and Sara voices the Shibuya division.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:31:32 2021 No.10093228 File: 17 KB, 420x163, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ITU1s5SkcM Is she on the charts?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:33:03 2021 No.10093267 File: 339 KB, 919x652, 73936473838.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Four 10ks good numbers so far

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:42:55 2021 No.10093438 >>10093228 Taiwan keeps inclining, there seems to be a TW tuber on the SC chart around once a week or so too

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:51:11 2021 No.10093632 >>10093228 How's it possible to have this many viewers with so little subs? Bots?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:51:41 2021 No.10093645 File: 815 KB, 1006x1687, 2021-09-20 so far.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >THE DAY SO FAR Lamy left turning a snake for 11k is impressive kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:56:47 2021 No.10093750 File: 81 KB, 991x90, plusone.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10093645

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:07:27 2021 No.10093998 >>10093750 There is a certain lag for live-ranking to pick up streams, don't know if it is 10 min, 30 min but sometimes it takes some time for it to show up

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:14:14 2021 No.10094187 >>10093228 Not gonna lie, I opened the stream for the hat

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:19:02 2021 No.10094301 File: 560 KB, 890x1051, Screenshot_20210920-211630~2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10093645 Hoshimachi-san please save her

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:20:56 2021 No.10094341 >>10094301 10k maybe?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:20:57 2021 No.10094344 >>10094301 She is just gonna go back to Apex eventually and go back to shit numbers. Hope she gets a few viewers from this but...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:23:30 2021 No.10094409 >>10094344 GOOD NEWS: APEX IS DEAD

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:23:53 2021 No.10094418 >>10094344 I mean really her numbers are only bad when her subcount is taken into account. If you look at her numbers in isolation they're totally fine for someone doing Vtubing as a career

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:26:50 2021 No.10094493 >>10094418 this is more about her sabotaging her potential numbers

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:28:09 2021 No.10094527 Pekora got tomorrow covered https://youtu.be/qaiHLCsDm4Q

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:32:29 2021 No.10094652

>>10094418
>are only bad when her subcount is taken into account
Even if you ignore her subcount her numbers massively trail her peers in the same company.

For quite a while she's getting Ollie tier numbers, which is a huge step down for a streamer the caliber of Matsuri

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:34:35 2021 No.10094712

>>10094493
Yeah I know, but as long as her numbers aren't actually bad(as in not just bad from a Numberfag perspective but bad to the point where she worries about making a living) she'll probably just keep on sabotaging herself and being a menhara
>>10094652
>Even if you ignore her subcount her numbers massively trail her peers in the same company.
Not really, especially considering her genmates

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:40:52 2021 No.10094862 Weekly VOD numbers https://panora.tokyo/archives/33809

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:41:27 2021 No.10094884 File: 49 KB, 715x633, monthlySuperchatPrism.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Thought this would interest some people here in /#/ Prism monthly superchat (streamlabs not counted) 1/2

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:42:03 2021 No.10094905 >>10094862 It counts short vids? eww

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:42:32 2021 No.10094914 File: 15 KB, 384x365, top15PrismSuperchatters.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10094884 Prism top 15 barons (by superchat only, starting from May 1st 2021)

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:42:55 2021 No.10094921

>>10094712
>I know, but as long as her numbers aren't actually bad
this is more about declining and falling into irrelevance
>she worries about making a living
>merch, concerts, voice packs
she has got this covered.
>she'll probably just keep on sabotaging herself and being a menhara
in worst case scenario she will just make "Coco-move" + she has "helping hand"

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:43:57 2021 No.10094948 File: 506 KB, 841x1008, Screenshot_20210920-214032~2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10094341 Thank you hoshimachi-san

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:45:07 2021 No.10094968 >>10094884 For context, gen3 debuted at the end of June

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:46:41 2021 No.10095007 >>10094862 Gura getting 700k vod views despite only 36k peak on her anni stream. This is why Gura's CCV numbers are pointless, Her vod views are insane.

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:47:10 2021 No.10095022

>>10094712
>Not really, especially considering her genmates
That's the thing, this is even including her genmates

Here is for September so far
>6660 median avg :: 8914 median peak :: 7022 mean :: 345856 hours watched :: fubuki, 26 streams
>5866 median avg :: 7916 median peak :: 6903 mean :: 114823 hours watched :: haato, 9 streams
>2474 median avg :: 3028 median peak :: 2760 mean :: 70894 hours watched :: matsuri, 15 streams
>1928 median avg :: 2398 median peak :: 1814 mean :: 28910 hours watched :: aki, 9 streams
>694 median avg :: 960 median peak :: 1004 mean :: 6274 hours watched :: mel, 2 streams

And here is for August, a month where, because she played too much APEX, she actually trailed Mel in the vital statistics.

>8569 median avg :: 12121 median peak :: 8558 mean :: 464108 hours watched :: haato, 36 streams
>4296 median avg :: 5361 median peak :: 5334 mean :: 611253 hours watched :: fubuki, 61 streams
>3492 median avg :: 4855 median peak :: 3682 mean :: 90027 hours watched :: mel, 9 streams
>2346 median avg :: 3312 median peak :: 2429 mean :: 130358 hours watched :: matsuri, 23 streams
>1746 median avg :: 2226 median peak :: 2034 mean :: 62655 hours watched :: aki, 12 streams

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:48:53 2021 No.10095059 Damn Pekora, this could have been a good opportunity to boost her numbers but you chose to boost for yourself huh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaiHLCsDm4Q

>>	Pramy Mon Sep 20 14:49:07 2021 No.10095065 >>10090825 where did you get that picture of the sign? i really wanted this on a t-shirt. mind giving me the HD pic?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:50:54 2021 No.10095121 >>10095059 anon.. this will be stream with 2 povs

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:52:04 2021 No.10095157

>>10095059
You surely don't get how "boosting" works then. You boost someone's numbers by presenting the smaller streamer to the larger audience, not the other way around.

Moona benefits more from being in front of 30k nousagis on Pekora's channel than in front of 5k moonafic and (let's say) 15k nousagi on her channel

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:52:35 2021 No.10095172 >>10095059 >>10095121 Indeed, viewers want to see both the booklet and the actual bomb, Moona just hasn't put up her stream yet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:54:24 2021 No.10095237 >>10095007 The UMISEA collab is crazier to me. Sure it had a decently high CCV of 43k bit that isn't a super crazy number. It was also only about an hour long.....67 minutes. 700k VOD views

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:55:05 2021 No.10095268 >>10094884 >>10094914 Good contenders for fourth place in global

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:56:28 2021 No.10095315 >>10095237 Main channel is a channel that many only see after the fact, mostly for HoloGra

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:56:40 2021 No.10095322 >>10095237 Gotta understand that it wasn't just Gura's viewers tuning in for that one, Marine and Aqua's viewers also spiked the VOD too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:56:52 2021 No.10095329 >>10095059 Kiara!!! Go back! hope moona get 16k just to spit kiara mc tour

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:57:11 2021 No.10095348 >>10095315 It was on Gura's channel

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:00:36 2021 No.10095465 >>10095348 Oh, the collab, for some reason I thought of the song

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:01:44 2021 No.10095500 >>10095059 Anon, their viewers overlap by a lot, how is she boosting herself here?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:01:51 2021 No.10095502 >>10095329 ironically Moona can seens ppl mb will like to see her pov during some rounds

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:03:40 2021 No.10095565 >>10095065 >>10082367 The image came from here. Any image for higher resolution will have to come from this individual.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:18:07 2021 No.10095983 File: 298 KB, 699x539, EoKjdsQVcAAJlRl.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10095059 PekoMoona is too strong bros. 70k for peko, 30k for moona

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:18:24 2021 No.10095985

>>10095022
>Here is for September so far
>>6660 median avg :: 8914 median peak :: 7022 mean :: 345856 hours watched :: fubuki, 26 streams
>>5866 median avg :: 7916 median peak :: 6903 mean :: 114823 hours watched :: haato, 9 streams
>>2474 median avg :: 3028 median peak :: 2760 mean :: 70894 hours watched :: matsuri, 15 streams
>>1928 median avg :: 2398 median peak :: 1814 mean :: 28910 hours watched :: aki, 9 streams
>>694 median avg :: 960 median peak :: 1004 mean :: 6274 hours watched :: mel, 2 streams
An entire gen with less hours watched combined this month than Veibae, ouch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:22:54 2021 No.10096104 >>10095983 look everyone, a dumbass

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:26:26 2021 No.10096193 >>10082361 220 replies >>10094510 23 replies >>10095271 6 replies >>10047964 168 replies >>10080604 44 replies >>10085491 41 replies >>10088402 26 replies >>10041757 102 replies Active threads about numbers

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:33:56 2021 No.10096377 >>10096193 Kek, at least 2 of those are from here directly, and someone even stole my snapshot for Yesterday's nijien collab to use to shitpost in one of them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:34:05 2021 No.10096382 >>10096193 How many of those aren't bait? 2?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:34:54 2021 No.10096407 >>10096193 Looks like numbers threads are inclining

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:36:07 2021 No.10096446 >>10096407 Not gonna believe it until I see a graph

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:37:20 2021 No.10096481 >>10096104 >New numberfag >He doesn't watch the first PekoMoona collab

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:40:40 2021 No.10096580 >>10096481 That was both before the December update and the every first collab. In minecraft. This one won't hit near that high, but it has been a while since they've collabed so it'll be good numbers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:43:25 2021 No.10096663 Does anyone know how many memberships Gura got during her first stream with memberships open?

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:47:09 2021 No.10096763

>>10096663
No. We didn't have any tools that were scraping at the time like Hololyzer, and I'm not sure if you'd be able to scrape the data from the original VOD. If you could, someone could try and figure out what the number she got was, and same for the rest of the Holomem with their membership stream VODs with chat still up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:49:43 2021 No.10096845 >>10096580 look everyone, a dumbass

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:54:36 2021 No.10097016 >>10096663 Did Gura even have a "Membership Open " stream? I do remember she was the last one to get hers

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:54:44 2021 No.10097020
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>>10096481
First Pekomoon collab was the final episode of the PekoMoona arc, which spanned from
>Life and death of Joseph
>Moona NPC
>Pekora and Noel(?) flexing their english skills feat. Moona
>Lapiz Lazuri
>Peko Iron far
>Moona offering to help and Pekora, for the fist time, building in collab
>PekoMoona Gold Moona
>Moona magnificent hidden escalator
>Miko returnng to the server and visiting her Moona's House
>Moona's dogs chasing Pekora feat. Sora
>Moona helping Sora find dogs
>PekoMoona Usaken
>Moona suffering form lack of confidence to approach Pekora to collab and being conforted by ID girls feat Iofi and Risu
>PekoMoona collab

That collab was the closing event of a major arc spanning months and many characters, and that was why it got that big of a number.

This new one won't get anywhere close to what Korone and Calli got when they did, pre YT change

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:55:33 2021 No.10097048

>>10096763
Damn, that's too bad. Would've been interesting to know as a reference point now that EN2 is opening their memberships. I vaguely remember her getting 20k+ votes on some members only poll, but that might have been a couple of weeks later. I don't remember.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:56:57 2021 No.10097081 >>10097020 best anime

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:56:57 2021 No.10097080 >>10096663 Okay, so memberships were opened during her first DBD stream. https://youtu.be/1AIMAiWweOA You can probably just scrape the data yourself

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 16:04:46 2021 No.10097289

>>10097048
I don't see any polls getting 20k+ votes, looking back to last year's polls that are still up.
I can tell you though that the oldest poll has 9.1k votes, and since I highly doubt people are going back to vote on what movie to watch afterthefact, that should probably be a good baseline as to what her initial membership numbers looked like.

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 16:04:58 2021 No.10097293
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>FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN

Here is the list
>94,720 hololive (hololive)
>48,950 nijisanji (nijisanji)
>39,775 Kuzuha (nijisanji)
>24,627 Kuzuha (nijisanji)
>22,276 Miko (hololive)
>22,137 Miko (hololive)
>20,982 Korone (hololive)
>19,119 Kanae (nijisanji)
>18,890 Aqua (hololive)
>14,803 Tamaki (NoriPro)
>13,184 Ina (hololive)
>12,467 Kanata (hololive)
>12,321 Watame (hololive)
>11,788 Lamy (hololive)
>11,371 Nui Sociere (nijisanji)
>11,235 Ange Katrina (nijisanji)
>11,130 Saegusa Akina (nijisanji)
>10,959 Himawari Honma (nijisanji)
>10,591 Matsuri (hololive)
>10,473 Mito (nijisanji)
>10,029 Mio (hololive)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 16:06:55 2021 No.10097343 >>10097289 Ah okay, remembering completely wrong then, lol. Thanks for looking it up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 16:08:12 2021 No.10097393 Reminder that Tsukimi is happening today/tomorrow, so expect a lot of japs with nothing to do but watch streams. Real possibility of 100k being broken in several streams

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 16:16:22 2021 No.10097607

>>10095985
I'm lowkey worried that Mel is unintentionally self-sabotaging whatever this big announcement of hers will be. It will be a bit of a shame if she puts so much effort into something and it barely gains any traction, be it fan disinterest or yt algo, but her lack of a presence so far this month is something else even by her usual standards.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 16:18:16 2021 No.10097672 >>10090947 He hates vtubers

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 16:22:09 2021 No.10097791 Are there any recent estimates on membership numbers?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 16:26:32 2021 No.10097917 File: 214 KB, 463x453, 1624277132051.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10097293 >only 9 Nijis over all >but 3 of them in the Top 5, with 2 of them being Kuzuha KING, I KNEEL

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 16:55:43 2021 No.10098878

>>10097672
Please Anon, why are you responding to my blatant shitpost?! The absolute state of the board....
>>10097791
Nope, though if one were so inclined they could scrape the chat-stats info for unique member usernames for an absolute minimum of members that each Holo has like the last time someone did while back that indicated Gura had an absolute minimum of 17k members.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 17:01:22 2021 No.10099060 File: 12 KB, 214x189, B65D6EEE-326E-484F-8587-0D7A1B423C8E.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10097917 >with 2 of them being Kuzuha One of those two being head to head with their Niji collab. >KNEEL!

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 17:06:23 2021 No.10099206 >>10098878 So is having 17k members high or low for a vtuber or regular streamer?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 17:12:15 2021 No.10099387 >>10099206 Extremely high, youtube assumes that you'll top out at 5k members and their emote scale only goes up that high, and most vtubers have far lower members than that

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 17:12:57 2021 No.10099403

>>10099206
Let's put it this way.
On Twitch, 17k subs (which is basically equiv to membership, a monthly fee, access to emotes, allows you to chat during sub-only mode) would put you in the top 50 most subbed streamers.
17k is the absolute FLOOR, she's likely higher as not everyone who's membered is even going to use chat.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 17:14:32 2021 No.10099452 >>10099387 What is YT membership anyway? I've heard of it but what exactly does it do?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 17:15:36 2021 No.10099496 >>10099452 It gives you access to membership emotes, access to special membership posts and videos if the youtube decides to use them, and generally just gives you access to exclusive content

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 17:15:42 2021 No.10099499 >>10099452 anon?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 17:20:50 2021 No.10099685 File: 1.87 MB, 1762x942, oh-kawaii-koto.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >baby numberfag learning his As and Bs in this thread O Kawaii koto!

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 17:22:42 2021 No.10099755 >>10099496 Does a vtuber get paid from membership?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 17:23:27 2021 No.10099786 >>10099755 Of course she does. Seriously though how new are you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 17:23:52 2021 No.10099805 >>10099685 These are not As and Bs. This feels like trolling.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 17:23:54 2021 No.10099806 >>10099755 Yes. YT takes their 30% cut. We don't know what cut anycolour/cover take for memberships so I won't speculate on that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 17:26:33 2021 No.10099887 >>10099806 It should be part of the same lump sum that youtube pays out so it should be 35% for cover

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 17:39:49 2021 No.10100276 >>10097917 You can count Tamaki as Niji there too since she was sucking from two of them

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 17:51:26 2021 No.10100592
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Here is the chart of the relative position with regards to the monthly mean ccv, for the gen 5

Botan rules supreme, as for the other 3
>Lamy started last but clawed her way to #2
>Nene is #2 whenever Lamy isn't
>Polka seems to have had a good September 2020 and then crashed and burned

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 17:55:33 2021 No.10100736 File: 525 KB, 2400x1440, gen 5 relative mean.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10100592 Now for the actual monthly mean CCV, calculated as >"hours watched" / hours streamed where, for each stream >hours watched = AVG ccv * hours streamed

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 17:56:51 2021 No.10100782 >>10090915 anyone has that poster on high quality? I am glad gashi gashi is getting work

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 18:02:27 2021 No.10100977 File: 555 KB, 2400x1440, gen 3 relative mean.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10100736 Gen 3, median, monthly

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 18:04:04 2021 No.10101036 >>10100782 Mean, I surely mean

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 18:05:39 2021 No.10101087 >>10100977 >median Mean, I surely mean

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 18:12:28 2021 No.10101320 >>10097917 >quantity over quality I hope instead of spamming low quality streams like Ark, Apex, etc., Nijisanji would opt for a more well thought off collabs like Holo's #UmiSea.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 18:12:46 2021 No.10101330 >>10100736 honestly it seems that Polka didn't crash and burn but rather just never managed to grow and keep any of the growth

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 18:14:56 2021 No.10101407 >>10101330 She's the only one that went below 5k on her gen, and she's quickly moving back there

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 18:18:38 2021 No.10101528 >>10101407 if you look at her and Botans start you see them droping about the same amount. the main difference is that Polka didnt manage to stop the drop and recover. her ditching stream ideas and not having a shedule really gimped her massivly

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 18:36:15 2021 No.10102067 >>10095268 >contenders Who's fourth place now?

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 19:13:14 2021 No.10103176
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>if nijisanji or hololive or any vtuber company sees this tweet... please.. for the love of god.. just pick me up.
>I DON'T WANT TO BE AN INDIE VTUBER ANYMORE!!! LET ME SELL MY SOUL TO YOU AND WORK FOR YOU AAAAAAA

This realization is sinking in in more and more indies, they see their former peers making 1k, 2k, 3k on NijiEN, 4k, 5k, 10k, 20k on HoloEN2 and think
>why the fuck am I slaving away for 3 digits and a pittance in SC when I could be doing THE EXACT SAME THING to a much larger audience and to a whole lot more money and less effort

This mouse is cute tho, I can see she actually getting picked.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 19:36:30 2021 No.10103879 >>10103176 I think she blew every little tiny chance she had to get into an agency with this outburst.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 19:40:36 2021 No.10104022 >>10103879 >outburst It's just a shitpost you autistic retard

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 19:56:00 2021 No.10104487 File: 143 KB, 1920x1080, Screenshot - 2021-09-20 , 20_55_39.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10103879 kek, you need to know Nezumi better anon. Here is a sample

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 19:57:01 2021 No.10104518 >>10104487 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qhVlDN_R2c

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 20:05:22 2021 No.10104728
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>Green Lamy, one hour in
If she sticks to this slot and avoids overlapping with Ina she can get 10k every day she wants to, as long as she doesn't pick debuff games

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 20:07:18 2021 No.10104792 >>10104728 She has been the least talked about council member in these threads but her viewership has been amazingly strong and consistent.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 20:08:16 2021 No.10104830 >>10104792 This place is incel land who would've known

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 20:12:45 2021 No.10104985 >>10103176 >Indie >3 digits Lmao, lmao, indies are lucky if they break 2 digits

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 20:32:56 2021 No.10105715 >>10103176 She openly stated that she was high as fuck when doing the Hololive interview. She's not getting into a Japanese agency.

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 20:40:07 2021 No.10106051

>>10104728
>>10104792
Fauna doesn't get talked about a lot because her numbers are the most stable out of Council. She's not like Bae and her insane schedules.
Good game choices + non-filtering streaming style.
She has a handful of stream types that get her 10k, but not much more. Honestly, not sure why she's not getting more than 10k rn when there's no overlap.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 20:41:24 2021 No.10106130 >>10106051 I think we are seeing the absolute limit of Euro holofags

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 20:44:17 2021 No.10106259 >>10106130 11k or so for this slot, without overlap.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 20:45:26 2021 No.10106310 >>10106259 Yeah, Ina gets roughtly the same numbers when she streams too, so I get the feeling that there just aren't much more than 10-15k eruos who'd be willing to tune into a holo stream on the regular

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 20:47:39 2021 No.10106387 File: 186 KB, 1224x808, Screenshot - 2021-09-20 , 21_45_17.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Holomyth on the expos circuit? Very lean schedule for EN as a whole

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 20:52:03 2021 No.10106574 >>10106387 They're finally done thank god. Myth just hasn't posted their schedules yet. Seeing today's barren top 20 chart felt odd. >>10097293

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 20:53:47 2021 No.10106661 >>10106387 I wonder what their appearance fees are. A weekend day is worth quite a bit of revenue for the Myth girls, though the commitment is small. Apparently their rooms were very well attended with lines around the corner.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 20:55:32 2021 No.10106737 File: 79 KB, 571x538, Screenshot - 2021-09-20 , 21_54_45.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Good NijiEN numbers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 20:58:36 2021 No.10106840 >>10106661 These girls are grossing 60k min in SC revenue per month, anything under 2k/day/girl and they're getting something else out of the deal, like sponsorship contacts or contacts in the music industry.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 21:03:33 2021 No.10107066 >>10106737 HoloID performed better.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 21:05:46 2021 No.10107142 >>10107066 Naturally since the Hololive brand is much more popular

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 21:46:05 2021 No.10108771

GreenLamy just commented explicitly that she's trying to find a balance between a good schedule for EUfags and a good one for JP/AUSfags.

It seems to indicate two things
1) that's an unspoken goal of HoloCouncil, to fill those EN starved hours
2) that her schedule will likely bounce between this slot and the early morning JP slot

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 21:56:31 2021 No.10109239

9/1 - 9/20

>Pekora (number of streams: 18)
10,000 - 19,999: 0
20,000 - 29,999: 7
30,000 - 39,999: 8
40,000+: 3

median: 31,863
average: 33,979

>Kuzuha (number of streams: 22)
10,000 - 19,999: 5
20,000 - 29,999: 9
30,000 - 39,999: 6
40,000+: 2

median: 24,642
average: 28,900

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 21:59:03 2021 No.10109341 >>10106737 > whole branch collab, 1 POV > Selen's FPS These numbers are within their usual peaks.

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 22:01:19 2021 No.10109420

>>10109239
>average: 33,979
How are you calculating the average?

>sum of the averages / num of streams?

Some anon suggested (and it is actually much better way) to do
> hours watched / hours streamed
which is the same calculation used to determine the average of one stream, extrapolated to the group.

Doing otherwise results in the following distortion
>the average of a 10 min 5k avg CCV and a 10 hours 25k avg CCV ends up being 15k instead of closer to 25k

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 22:02:10 2021 No.10109459 >>10109341 >Dead Space >FPS So not only does no one here watch streams, they also have no idea about games either?

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 22:05:27 2021 No.10109582

Here are some Pekora historical numbers: all counting only the first 19 days of the month

>2020-08-01/2020-08-19 :: 26101 median peaks :: 19654 median avg :: 21073 mean :: 1550263 hours watched
>2020-09-01/2020-09-19 :: 26993 median peaks :: 19172 median avg :: 18490 mean :: 1200925 hours watched
>2020-10-01/2020-10-18 :: 28349 median peaks :: 23974 median avg :: 26815 mean :: 2015581 hours watched
>2020-11-01/2020-11-18 :: 48769 median peaks :: 40174 median avg :: 39113 mean :: 2348098 hours watched
>2020-12-01/2020-12-19 :: 36088 median peaks :: 29785 median avg :: 33231 mean :: 1557997 hours watched
>2021-01-01/2021-01-19 :: 34784 median peaks :: 25738 median avg :: 26983 mean :: 2424878 hours watched
>2021-02-01/2021-02-19 :: 27236 median peaks :: 21797 median avg :: 21855 mean :: 1632198 hours watched
>2021-03-01/2021-03-19 :: 30211 median peaks :: 22992 median avg :: 23285 mean :: 1404887 hours watched
>2021-04-01/2021-04-19 :: 29010 median peaks :: 22364 median avg :: 24029 mean :: 1677651 hours watched
>2021-05-01/2021-05-19 :: 30033 median peaks :: 22037 median avg :: 23620 mean :: 1806178 hours watched
>2021-06-01/2021-06-19 :: 31955 median peaks :: 24997 median avg :: 26114 mean :: 1845808 hours watched
>2021-07-01/2021-07-19 :: 33214 median peaks :: 24072 median avg :: 25138 mean :: 1731145 hours watched
>2021-08-01/2021-08-18 :: 29705 median peaks :: 22350 median avg :: 22331 mean :: 1673672 hours watched
>2021-09-01/2021-09-19 :: 31839 median peaks :: 24303 median avg :: 24891 mean :: 1967595 hours watched

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 22:11:58 2021 No.10109878

>>10106840
Using lifetime/12 (All HoloEN members recently celebrated 1 year)

Mori - 83k/month
Kiara - 69k
Gura - 65k
Ame - 40k
Ina - 34k

August was actually one of their weakest months since people were saving for anniversary.
>Mori 49k
>Kiara 43k
>Gura 36k
>Amelia 21k
> Ina 20k

60k min per month for SC is too high. There's a lot of weak months since SCs tend to be centered around celebrations.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 22:14:27 2021 No.10109980 >>10109878 >60k min per month for SC is too high. Eyeballing, it seems to be around the medium for your lifetime /12

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 22:15:45 2021 No.10110031 >>10108771 >JP/AUSfags i think you mean good for USfag. Unless you were talking about sana/bae instead

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 22:18:24 2021 No.10110124 >>10109878 What's the weakest month so far?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 22:18:31 2021 No.10110129 >>10109420 >hours watched theres no such a thing available. Some retarded sites calculate it by ccvtime, but that is very wrong. Also ccvtime/time = ccv.

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 22:19:12 2021 No.10110156

>>10108771
They've tried streaming against EN1 and outside of the first week or so, it did not go well for most of them. I doubt they're trying to find off-hour niches out of any obligation to the audience but just to avoid becoming chumbait in the evening NA hours. Kronii seems the only one really capable of putting up some fight there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 22:24:40 2021 No.10110373 >>10110129 This, if there is a stream that went on for 11 hours and got 30k peak, there is no fucking way all 30k of those people watched all 11 hours. Yet hours watched is still a metric people fight over.

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 22:27:36 2021 No.10110477

>>10104792
Because Fauna is quite literally in the middle of the pack so there's not much to talk about her. Kronii and Mumei have fairly high numbers with people wondering/seething at for different reasons how they are in those positions, then Baelz and Sana have the opposite of people questioning how they are trailing behind and want them to catch up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 22:28:27 2021 No.10110505 >>10109878 If they only see a 1/3 of that, Ina's earning 120k a year before taxes from SCs alone. Pretty good

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 22:29:26 2021 No.10110540

>>10110124
Not sure
theres a youtube channel that has videos on each month for superchat earnings for Hololive though starting from Jan 2021. His videos are catered toward numberfags and don't have alot of views.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChoJO86SEki4IYyMdvDkAoA/featured

heres his playlist for monthly superchats
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXMbb6t_ka3arImO0aBYrC0w_l4-MHjqz

Ame was doing super well early this year (50K+) per month but seems to have dropped to 20k in the last two months.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 22:31:07 2021 No.10110614 >>10110540 Ame keeps disabling SCs for some reason

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 22:48:23 2021 No.10111295 Any other NijiEN fan disappointed by the lack of financial success of HoloCouncil? SCs are generally low, subs are low, viewers are low, and memberships too very long.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 22:50:11 2021 No.10111370 >>10109878 I think for another reason is that EN1 started to stream less compare to their early days, but I need to count to see if my guess is true.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 22:51:59 2021 No.10111450 >>10110505 Without even bothering to read them except a few incidental ones she happens to see and some birthday shoutouts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 22:52:09 2021 No.10111455 >>10111370 Part of that might be due to all the cons they have had to attend these past few months, though I do also remember like Ame and Mori were on vacation and only got back around when EN 2 was underway.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 22:53:50 2021 No.10111526 >>10111295 Not sure what this was supposed to mean. I like Pomu and EN2 and they've all made more than I do this month by playing video games.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 23:03:13 2021 No.10111971 >>10111295 um why? they're fine as it's

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 23:03:22 2021 No.10111978 >>10111295 No because I'm able to understand they're still doing good even if other vtubers make more money than them, because I'm over the age of 18

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 23:06:52 2021 No.10112098

>>10109878
>>10110540

Ok I compiled all the numbers rounded to nearest thousand

Pastebin'd for formatting.
https://pastebin.pl/view/a63cfe3c

Everyone's pretty consistent but they have big months where their SC's balloon. Only ame has noticeable decline.

The weakest months are August but the decline started in June.
If you want to bait that coincidently matches when NijiEN Debuted.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 23:08:06 2021 No.10112151 File: 434 KB, 1080x545, Screenshot_20210921-060536~2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] damn ame, at least let your kouhai earn some member.. anyway i think good 10k for ame and maybe 5-8k for kronii?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 23:11:14 2021 No.10112273 >>10112151 5 minutes is enough dont worry, amelia always delays her start like a lazy ass

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 23:14:59 2021 No.10112426 >>10111295 Did you mistype your bait and said NijiEN instead of HoloEN?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 23:17:17 2021 No.10112521 >>10112151 Its a Kronii superchat reading too you know, I think your underestimating how much loyal fans Kronii's manage to keep in her streams when superchat readings start. She'll be able to reach 10k I bet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 23:17:54 2021 No.10112541 >>10112426 You just gave him a (You) his bait already worked

Anonymous Tue Sep 21 00:22:11 2021 No.10114728

>>10111370
>I think for another reason is that EN1 started to stream less compare to their early days
Kiara is still streaming the same amount, Mori and Ina are starting to stream more now that they're shedding outside responsibilities, Gura is starting to stream more in general as well. The only one streaming less is Ame, but she had an absurd output in the first few months that she was never really going to be able to keep.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 00:26:02 2021 No.10114823 >>10112151 is this the start of the portal long-ass relay?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 00:32:12 2021 No.10115021 >>10110505 Ina has thousands of members a handful of sponsorships… and still does corporate work for Cover and various big money gachas. Her rates must be insane these days.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 00:37:58 2021 No.10115221 I know we can't have a way to count members but can we still track how much views member videos can get?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 00:44:19 2021 No.10115442 >>10114728 Is there a number comparison throughout the year? It would be very helpful to visualize the amount fluctuation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 00:46:35 2021 No.10115521 >>10115221 Iirc someone said in this thread you can see VOD views if you add a member only stream to a Playlist but it doesn't seem to work on their mobile app

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 00:48:26 2021 No.10115566 File: 223 KB, 875x1310, 0920.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Today's superchats

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 00:50:11 2021 No.10115603 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSKke-mqZnY /#/ thoughts? I'm curious how well this will do compared to the Xth episode of the EN TTRPG series that's taking place 10 hours later.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 00:54:26 2021 No.10115725 >>10115603 20k max

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 00:56:06 2021 No.10115771 >>10115521 im really curious at the numbers for Kronii's not only first karaoke but also in members and unarchived.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 00:56:30 2021 No.10115787 >>10115603 I expect it not to beat Miko, honestly

Anonymous Tue Sep 21 00:58:00 2021 No.10115831

>>10115725
Seconding this. Fubuki's done tabletop stuff before with non-holos iirc, nothing too amazing numberswise. The fact that it's with bakatare circus means at the very least it should get alright numbers but won't be anything to write home about.
Kronii waiting room at almost 5k, Amelia brainstorming portal builds at 4k.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:00:13 2021 No.10115905 >>10115566 people were shitposting IRyS's numbers yesterday but she's really consistent SC wise huh..

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:01:40 2021 No.10115952 How much numbers you think Kronii's unlocking membership is gonna be?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:02:58 2021 No.10115996 I just realized this will be the first (?) members unlocking where we can accurately track the number of new members, this'll be interesting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:10:13 2021 No.10116323 Ame doing portal stream. Should get good numbers?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:12:20 2021 No.10116430 >>10116323 It's just a brainstorming session. The actual portal is likely not being built until next month most likely.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:13:58 2021 No.10116499 >>10116430 >The actual portal is likely not being built until next month most likely. Mori and Ina have an MC stream to start building it in two days

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:14:13 2021 No.10116513 Kronii is too powerful >507k yen >2.7k members

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:14:44 2021 No.10116534 >>10116499 Oh, well that's what I get for not checking the schedules they put out today.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:16:04 2021 No.10116602 >>10116534 Nah it's not your fault, it doesn't even say portal building on the schedule for the collab, I only know because Ina said as much in her membership stream.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:18:09 2021 No.10116716 >>10116602 Fuck, did i miss a membership stream too?! Goddamnit, backlog growing...

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:29:22 2021 No.10117323 >>10115603 Around 10k, EOPs won't show up to watch a stream full of talking in a language they don't understand.

Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:34:54 2021 No.10117659

>>10115905
That was mainly shitpost, since she peaked at 8k and kept around 7-8k viewers throughout her TF2 part. Her CCV just dropped because she finished the game early, then switched to SC reading for 30-45’ before finally switching to APEX. It probably would have dropped still, but not as much if she just moved straight to APEX - a lot of people probably thought she was just going to read SC until the end of the stream

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:36:25 2021 No.10117727 It's only been 3 minutes, and Kronii's poll participant number is already higher than her CCV.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:37:09 2021 No.10117775 File: 80 KB, 479x420, Screenshot_20210920-223603.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 3 minutes

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:37:19 2021 No.10117788 Does Youtube really expect me to believe that over half of Kronii's current CCV bought her membership?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:37:26 2021 No.10117791 File: 12 KB, 367x159, youtubePoll.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZNNkrJ6F6g

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:37:30 2021 No.10117793 In our ongoing saga of "Man YT's CCV IS FUCKED BOI" Kronii CCV: 7.6k Votes in poll in 5 minutes: 9.5k OKAY YOUTUBE.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:38:27 2021 No.10117847 10k already

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:38:56 2021 No.10117867 >>10116513 Also she just put up a poll, there's 10k ppl voting and climbing so far but the CCV is only around 7.6k

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:39:03 2021 No.10117872 Kronii got more votes on her poll than views...

Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:39:09 2021 No.10117881

>>10117793
I really want to know if Cover and the talents get real analytics, or if they also get these obviously ridiculously botched numbers.
Could it really be possible that when we see, say, 25k people watching Gura, it's actually 50k? Did 400k people watch her outfit reveal instead of the reported 200k?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:40:06 2021 No.10117928 >>10117847 11k now

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:40:13 2021 No.10117935 >>10117727 >>10117775 >>10117788 >>10117791 >>10117793 >>10117847 >>10117867 >>10117872 Say it together with me! "YOUTUBE'S CCV NUMBERS ARE ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT! HURRAH"

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:40:44 2021 No.10117961 50% viewers (3.5k) has been cycled within 6 minutes. Yea, CCV is broken.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:40:59 2021 No.10117971 >>10117935 but the bots, ARE THEY ALL LIES

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:41:10 2021 No.10117980 >>10117935 Still apples to apples since it applies to everyone.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:41:15 2021 No.10117986 >>10114823 I thought there wasn't going to be a relay.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:41:53 2021 No.10118017 >4k new members >$6.2k

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:41:59 2021 No.10118024 >>10117980 Oh yea, a bullshit broken metric is at least broken for EVERYONE, so we can use our completely busted measuring stick for everyone.

Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:42:54 2021 No.10118059

>>10117980
>>10118024
We actually have no idea if it's this broken for everyone. Some people have theorized that HoloEN channels having JP as the country while having most of their viewers from other countries might throw YouTube's crazed AI for a loop.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:43:44 2021 No.10118112 File: 1.05 MB, 1786x747, lolUTube.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10117928 Yeah, this shit is broken, wtf.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:44:21 2021 No.10118135 >>10118059 Damnit please lemme cope with YT's broken CCV by at least HOPING it's applied equally to all chubbas....

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:44:48 2021 No.10118159 >>10115603 >FBK doing a ttrpg on her channel instead of some literal who channel for once Not great numbers imo

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:45:25 2021 No.10118192 >>10118135 There's also other factors like cultural usage of AdBlock which is bound to differ between countries.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:46:39 2021 No.10118253 File: 37 KB, 1501x315, pomu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10118017 Baby numbers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:47:26 2021 No.10118295 >>10117872 >Kronii got more votes on her poll than views... People come and go

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:49:09 2021 No.10118370 >>10118295 She had more votes than views in under 3 minutes, probably even less. I want to know the based coke-addict zoomer viewer who finds a stream halfway through, joins exactly as a poll starts, and then instantly leaves.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:49:13 2021 No.10118374 >>10118295 Not enough in 3 minutes for it to be more than her CCV

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:54:45 2021 No.10118674 >>10118253 >total revenue was this just after her membership too or are you pulling this after all this time?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:56:21 2021 No.10118777 >>10118253 I remember that people estimated that Pomu only got around 1.4k new members back then, though (based on her member-only pool's amount of votes since there isn't any Hololyzer-like site for Niji)

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:58:00 2021 No.10118882 >>10118674 It was her pre surgery stream.

Anonymous Tue Sep 21 01:58:44 2021 No.10118935
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>>10115566
Masaru: 3.0
Aqua: Karaoke and announcing future stream of singing Holo original songs only stream
Lamy: Lamy (Slither io and Behind the Frame, I find it hilarious reading some of the SC that are just "Lamy daily fee" and akasupas talking about their day)
Miko: Undertale good ending
Linglan Lily: SC reading Lots of SC about first time memberships
Tomeru: Still live, Apesex endurance... I think she has been live for several days.
Irys: Titanfall and various games
Kanae: Congratulations SC for his new cover
Kuzuha: BOTW (respect for the aged day SC spam since he's 100+ years old)
Ollie: Idol manager (people were competing to donate in different currencies)
Mumei: Passpartout
Selen: Dead Space (two frames)

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:00:24 2021 No.10119045 >>10118674 Her membership opening stream got around $1k. So yeah it's baby numbers but from Pomu.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:01:04 2021 No.10119097 At least we can know for sure that HoloCouncil will get at least 1k members each. This means they can live comfortably alongside superchats, salary and even sponsorships if they get any

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:02:02 2021 No.10119161 >>10118253 Update $7.5k 4,443 new members That's more members than pomu's CCV

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:03:38 2021 No.10119260 >>10119161 How do you check how many members?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:05:03 2021 No.10119337 >>10119260 Hololyzer. On first reply to the thread it must be there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:05:08 2021 No.10119343 >>10119260 Hololyzer, one of the tools in the OP. It lists the amount of SCs (which can be a bit off due to conversions) and the number of members gained per stream.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:05:56 2021 No.10119389 >>10118935 >Tomeru: Still live, Apesex endurance... I think she has been live for several days. She started on the 5th, Susan killed a couple of her frames but she's been going basically non-stop since then except to sleep and eat

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:11:19 2021 No.10119693 >>10119343 Damn, going by PMC, this site has been around for a while, why didn't /vt/ find out about this earlier? Too bad, I wanted to look Myth & IRyS' numbers up for comparison against Council's

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:14:21 2021 No.10119883 >>10119389 Jesus christ. I saw a deleted frame with 18k usd

Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:15:31 2021 No.10119981

Curious how much these super chats are going to bleed into Myths.
I added up roughly how much Myth has earned in September.

Ame's only made 40k this month
Ina 23k
Gura 30k
Mori 60k
Kiara 40k

A good month for sure but this is their anniversary month. It might end up being lower than what they made in May.

Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:18:09 2021 No.10120168

>>10118059
While Youtube CCV isn't reliable, implying that only holoEN channels should have many times their current CCV sounds like a pretty big cope from those people. If you want to use poll numbers as a metric to gauge the "real audience", same thing has happened for actual JP channels like Miko and Kuzuha so it's not an EN thing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:20:29 2021 No.10120322 >>10120168 I'm not trying to imply anything, just theorizing that we really can't know if or how it's different among channels with such differing factors.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:21:04 2021 No.10120358 >>10120168 > same thing Did they reach 150% CCV within 7 minutes?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:22:58 2021 No.10120469 File: 59 KB, 347x155, KRONII.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:23:10 2021 No.10120480 Hololyzer has 4809 members as its (initial) final count after the stream has ended. I don't know if that number gets adjusted later. Pretty shocking result, I wouldn't have guessed it would be that high.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:25:54 2021 No.10120609 >>10119981 Compare to streams in Sep till now. Ame - 13 - 29.2hr Ina - 15 - 40.9hr Gura - 9 - 24.2hr Mori - 11 - 42.4hr Kiara - 17 - 80.2hr

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:26:42 2021 No.10120659 >>10120168 This desu. Just accept that "CCV is broken" is actually just the Youtube system working and catching the viewbots that Cover is using

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:27:40 2021 No.10120717 >>10120609 Jesus Kiara

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:28:15 2021 No.10120749 >>10120659 Wow, is Cover also going to pay $25000 a month to itself so they could fake Kronii's member count? They're really running quite the psyop over there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:29:16 2021 No.10120795 >>10120322 You might not but clearly there are some people who are extremely defensive about it, like: >>10120358 And the answer to that is yes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:30:14 2021 No.10120851 >>10120469 I kneel

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:30:34 2021 No.10120862 >>10120795 If you have kuzuha timestamped poll numbers showing 150% engagement in under 10 minutes, you'll have to post them for us to be impressed. You do have them, don't you, because you watch his streams?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:32:28 2021 No.10120969 >>10120749 Of course. You gotta pump up the numbers at first because no one would member/send supers unless they see other people do it first

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:33:03 2021 No.10120995 >>10120659 Guys the Kuzuhanigger/Nijinigger is here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:34:56 2021 No.10121078 I find it hilarious that some people are are so scared of Holo succeeding. I mean, their legions of fans range in the millions compared to probably hundreds of haters here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:35:10 2021 No.10121093 Well chatlog is not showing for Kronii's VOD, did it fuck up the numbers again?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:35:54 2021 No.10121124 >>10121093 VODs take time to process for chat replay

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:37:28 2021 No.10121223 >>10121093 Playboard is only showing $3.5k but at least Hololyzer didn't get fucked

Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:39:05 2021 No.10121284

>>10120609
May stats

Kiara 113
Gura 61
Ame 71
Ina 57
Calli 49

about 2/3rds of September is over
Not sure if you can extrapolate 1/3rd more superchats considering every girl got between 11-30k boost from their anniversary stream which is the largest boost by far.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:40:04 2021 No.10121320 >>10121223 Wonder if playboard will fuck again like last time with Fauna (but also, Fauna's chat was broken and take days to recover, can't blame all to playboard)

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:42:03 2021 No.10121417 >>10121284 I thought Gura was lazy; turns out Ina and Calli are lazier.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:42:30 2021 No.10121440 >>10121284 May had new outfits and Ina's birthday, I think Ina was around 90k in SC that month. And both Ina and Kiara have their 1M celebration.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:42:39 2021 No.10121453 >>10120717 Kiara is in the top 5 for hours streamed usually. Watame being #1 of course.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:43:58 2021 No.10121508 >>10121417 Anon, that's back in May, Mori's schedules are pretty packed these days. https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1440118583221227524 I'm curious how that rap karaoke will do for numbers, actually.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:45:56 2021 No.10121601 >>10121284 Myth's total streams and total stream time in May. Kiara - 24 - 113.4hr Gura - 17 - 63.1hr Ame - 26 - 73.5hr Ina - 19 - 57.3hr Calli - 18 - 49.6hr

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:46:33 2021 No.10121630 >>10121508 About the same as her last karaoke 12k

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:48:35 2021 No.10121710 >>10121630 Was her last karaoke specifically rap? Those have got to draw higher numbers. I'm not much of a Mori watcher so I don't really know, but even I've seen that clip of her rapping Godzilla.

Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:48:44 2021 No.10121715

>>10120862
You can't time stamp poll numbers from archives and I'm not in the habit of obsessively screenshotting every number during streams just to win arguments against defensive EN fans, so you're trying to ask for the impossible in bad faith.

Miko did hit 200% engagement in 20 minutes though and you can check the thread archives for proof.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:49:16 2021 No.10121733 >>10121630 Her last solo unarchived karaoke got 29k, her last archived karaoke got 16k, her last collab unarchived karaoke with a LITERAL who got 15k.

Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:51:27 2021 No.10121872

>>10121715
Well I'm not asking in bad faith. You're replying to a people discussing specific, recent events with actual numbers with a bunch of vague insinuations. You seem like the defensive one.
But I'm not actually a Hololive tribalist or any kind of tribalist at all, so I'm gonna leave it at that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:55:04 2021 No.10122042 >>10120659 based and copepilled

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:55:47 2021 No.10122075 >>10121872 "EN has its CCV cut because the channel locations are set in JP" isn't proof with numbers, it's a theory.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:58:28 2021 No.10122182 >>10121733 When was her last solo unarchived?

Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:58:47 2021 No.10122197

>>10122075
As admitted theorizing as part of a larger discussion regarding the bizarre phenomenon of poll engagement outpacing CCV in HololiveEN videos. To which you reply, oh that happens in NijiJP too, but I don't have the numbers to back that.
Ah shit, I'm replying when I said I wouldn't.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 02:59:59 2021 No.10122243 >>10122182 https://holo.poi.cat/stream/h_FcfU32GWI End of June. It's a shame this stream got a bit Susan'd, might've scraped 30k.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 03:01:43 2021 No.10122322 >>10122197 It does that in Holo JP too, and for every livestreamer on Youtube. They've had 2 minute song premiers that end up with 40% more VOD views than people in the viewing audience the minute the VOD goes up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 03:01:45 2021 No.10122325 >>10122197 I gave two names, Miko and Kuzuha, and you home in on the niji and consistently ignore the other? Are you sure you're not a tribalist?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 03:02:19 2021 No.10122349 >>10122325 >Miko Ah, sorry, I confess that I misread this as "Mito".

Anonymous Tue Sep 21 03:06:37 2021 No.10122563

>>10122349
But anyway, I think this discussion is going places I wasn't even intending. All I asked for was examples of this interesting and notable thing happening in JP streams, I wasn't saying that it doesn't. This is all getting muddled and I feel like this is an argument where I wasn't even trying to take the side you think I am.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 03:07:30 2021 No.10122589 >>10121508 >>10122243 > Weekend > Saturday morning for NA > Saturday night for JP Top 5 guaranteed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 03:12:24 2021 No.10122806 File: 83 KB, 238x230, 21.09.21.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Amelia 15k in minecraft

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 03:13:19 2021 No.10122856 >>10122806 The power of having EN primetime completely to yourself. Also, you guys are underestimating the renaissance the EN server is going through right now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 03:17:27 2021 No.10123011 >>10122806 >>10122856 Having new members actually boost their minecraft numbers

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 03:20:23 2021 No.10123125 File: 326 KB, 1080x1759, Screenshot_20210921-001934_Chrome.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10122856 IRyS...

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 03:21:20 2021 No.10123172 >>10123125 I mean, Ame did lose 1k viewers from her peak because IRyS started

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 03:22:11 2021 No.10123201 >>10123125 It's a shit game and her numbers are slowly going up

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 03:23:18 2021 No.10123254 >>10123201 >>10123125 The game is a slow burn, and Ame AND Bae have already played it. It'll ramp up as she goes on.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 03:32:08 2021 No.10123614 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkrRlxEWzCE >Chama/Nene off collab Could be a hit

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 03:36:24 2021 No.10123794 >>10123614 Does haachama still get good numbers? I thought they were just average now besides when doing english streams.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 03:37:05 2021 No.10123823 >>10123794 She gets good numbers if she's doing something interesting.

Anonymous Tue Sep 21 03:38:16 2021 No.10123863
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Its possible for everyone in myth except Ame to make less money this month than their average/month despite anniversary buff

Numbers taken from Playboard

>Ame 40k Current, Average 36k
>Ina 23k C, Avg 30k
>Gura 30k C, Avg 62k
>Kiara 40k C, Avg 69k
>Mori 60k C, Avg 79k

Combination of En2 competition and complacency.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 03:39:41 2021 No.10123925 >>10119389 Wait how does she keep going if Apex servers are dead?

Anonymous Tue Sep 21 03:43:18 2021 No.10124082

>>10123863
It's possible, I don't really mind unless they reached their career low in monthly SC (and we have to put stream time into consider). Curious the monetize stream is one of the reason chewed up the SC potential. I thought EN2 can get their channel monetized in the end of Aug but they chose to do it in early Sep.

Anonymous Tue Sep 21 03:43:59 2021 No.10124106

>>10123863
>Mori
Had a week off due to travelling back from the US
>Ame
Very light schedule compared to the usual due to illness

Also, there was supposed to be an outfit reveal at the end of this month that people were likely saving for, but that fell through.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 03:45:39 2021 No.10124174 >>10124106 Oh the outfit reveal has been delayed? Who mentioned that? >>10124082 Who knows if they had a choice, their channels could have been flagged by YT and they weren't cleaned for monetizarion until they got that fixed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 03:47:44 2021 No.10124257 >>10124174 Ame and Kiara both mentioned it.

Anonymous Tue Sep 21 04:10:30 2021 No.10125138
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>>10124082
Its getting close to their career low.
here's the chart colorcoded vs their median

Fun fact every EN dropped in August with the exception of Finana who got $13181 when her average was $9114

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 04:15:15 2021 No.10125328 >>10123614 >>10123794 >>10123823 but they will overlap with pekomoon..

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 04:15:21 2021 No.10125338 >>10125138 Thx for the chart

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 04:19:54 2021 No.10125508 Mori will be the 2nd most subscribed Holo by the end of the month and probably the 1st in VOD views after dropping her 5 news songs until the end of the year

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 04:21:29 2021 No.10125565 >>10125138 Based Finana

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 04:23:06 2021 No.10125610 >>10118059 well, when Miko did polls during her MK8 stream she also agot a way higher number than her CV, right? so it's gotta be at least a little bit screwed up for jps too

Anonymous Tue Sep 21 04:25:32 2021 No.10125698
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[ERROR]

Last Official Pekomoon got (90k for peko, 33k for moona)

I predict this one will still get high numbers but ofcourse nowhere near their 1st collab. though im sure it'll surpass the last Kiara/Peko collab
Pekora (will peak around 60k)
Moona (will peak around 15k)
*note that it isn't minecraft and its on weekdays

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 04:28:47 2021 No.10125816 >>10125698 Well the interesting comparisons that will be made about this is to the recent PekoKiara collab. We'll probably get a couple of threads on this one whether this one is higher or lower.

Anonymous Tue Sep 21 04:51:35 2021 No.10126834

>>10120168
Gura's VODs sometimes make me question this. The best example is the streams during Kiara's Mario Kart event. Gura and Ina had very similar CCVs and obviously the streams were pretty much the exact same lenth, yet look at the VOD views.

Gura - 509k
Ina - 290k

Seems crazy to me.

Anonymous Tue Sep 21 04:56:39 2021 No.10127062

>>10126834
One factor of that would possibly people tuning in and out of streams. Gura wasn't particularly winning so people are more enticed to see the other POVs.
Of course it is always happening with Gura's vods, where she gets really high comparative vod views, so if the idea is that her audience all have short attention spans then... I guess?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 04:57:41 2021 No.10127114 >>10125698 The last official pekomoon collab only has 49k for pekora and 13k for moona. If i remember correctly it was minecraft stream where they go to end. I don't even know if pekora can get 30k easy in this game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 05:00:10 2021 No.10127208 >>10127062 Bots and children clicking in and ouf because of boredom. We've talked about this - Gura's VOD views are meaningless

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 05:00:30 2021 No.10127224 >>10126834 Short attention kids won't watch the whole stream

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 05:02:46 2021 No.10127316 >>10127114 They haven't collabed in months, plus unironically, the language barrier will be a buff in this game, they're gonna get more than their 2nd MC stream

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 05:03:29 2021 No.10127347 >>10127208 >Gura's averge VOD views are the highest of all vtubers so I think it's meaningless Do copes really?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 05:06:09 2021 No.10127462 >>10127208 >Bots She's not the tourney king who has very slow chat...

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 05:07:26 2021 No.10127501 >>10125698 Do indogs really?

Anonymous Tue Sep 21 05:08:20 2021 No.10127544
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are the claims in this OP >>10116732 true?

>She has made nearly $100k in ~1.5 weeks of superchats, which is the new all-time record in hololive English.
>She already has 3000 members in 10 minutes of streaming.
>She broke Mori Calliope's record for highest SC earnings in a SC debut stream ($45,000 vs $25000)

Anonymous Tue Sep 21 05:09:50 2021 No.10127603

>>10127347
>highest of all Vtubers
Kuzuha gets equal or even more VOD than her on a regular basis. Stop being a faggot
>I think it's meaningless
Her numbers are high for no discernable reason or pattern. She has less CCV than Ina yet has the highest VOD after stream. She streams for only 1-2 hours at most, yet beats streams that are 10 hours or more. It's better to treat Gura as a statistical anomaly and ignore her numbers because there seems to be no rhyme or reason her numbers

Anonymous Tue Sep 21 05:15:48 2021 No.10127836

>>10127544
The membership and SC debut ones are both true. As for the last one, we can only use Playboard for both Mori and Kronii otherwise it wouldn't be fair (Hololyzer didn't exist when Mori debuted), and Kronii hasn't made it to 100k on Playboard (currently at $74,372). Mori took a little less than 3 weeks to make it to 100k on Playboard, for comparison.

tl;dr 2/3 are true

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 05:17:18 2021 No.10127888 File: 55 KB, 1195x589, 684564654154.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10127603 Do kuzushit really???

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 05:18:53 2021 No.10127948 >>10127603 One stream FPS for 6 hours and has 9 1 million vod views while the other rarely streams over 3 hours and yet has 15 1 million vod views. >Nijinigger still says kuzuha gets equal or more vod views.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 05:19:18 2021 No.10127968 >>10127888 >Stream 10+ hours >Still losing to a lazy shark LMAOkek

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 05:22:28 2021 No.10128092 >>10127603 Gura has fucking thirty 1M VODs(without music) How can your king compete?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 05:23:11 2021 No.10128134 >>10127603 Gura has 244 videos according to playboard and 142 of them are above 500k. Kuzuha has 986 videos and 126 are above 500k.

Anonymous Tue Sep 21 05:23:56 2021 No.10128168

>>10127948
Kuzuha has 12 million VOD streams while Gura has 30.

But yeah, 12 of Kuzuha's 1 million VOD view streams came in the last month. August was a crazy month for him that he is unlikely to replicate anytime soon. Gura generally crushes him in VOD views.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 05:25:23 2021 No.10128232 >>10128168 Ack, I meant 6 of Kuzuha's 12 1 million VOD streams came in the last month, lol, not all 12.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 05:27:24 2021 No.10128305 >>10128134 Not againsting you, but playboard have all the videos, even cancelled/privated ones counted, so I think it's better just focus on the public ones on the channel.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 05:30:54 2021 No.10128444 >>10127888 how in the fuck is nearly 50% of your subs watching a video on average considered low

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 05:31:14 2021 No.10128455 >>10128168 Imagine how much more she would have and how much higher her average would be if she didn't have to private all of her karaoke streams as those are her most popular streams. Smol Shork is quite strong to say the least.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 05:32:42 2021 No.10128500 >>10128444 Because VOD views is a metric to track traditional youtube uploads and the standards for those videos is more views than you have subscribers. Its a little trickier when you are using youtube mainly as a streaming platform.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 05:34:32 2021 No.10128565 >>10127544 She can't compete with Mori in regard to money, Mori has other revenue sources from her music that make more money that what she gets from Superchats

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 21 05:37:46 2021 No.10128663 File: 26 KB, 1194x295, 454564564.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10127888 >>10128444 How can we save Pewdiepie?

Anonymous Tue Sep 21 05:37:55 2021 No.10128672

You can sort of tell how many memberships smaller channels have using how many emotes they have.

https://www.streamscheme.com/complete-guide-to-youtube-gaming-emotes/

There's a list of number of emote slots and number of members required. Anyone who suddenly grows all at once wont have emotes ready but its pretty accurate for the smaller streamers and Holos who have been around for a while without huge growth.

Someone like Fubuki has 54 slots so she has over 5k+
Matsuri has 34 so she has a minimum of 1800 she could have more if she's too lazy to upload emotes.

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