/#/ numbers thread

File: 735 KB, 1177x1178, 878341346.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

/#/ numbers thread Anonymous Sat Jul 17 20:47:39 2021 No.6691609 [Reply] [Original]

Debut royal rumble edition

Previous thread
>>6661274

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 20:54:27 2021 No.6691791

Superchats from million subs milestones (updated)
Marine - $64,077
Rushia - $63,006
Pekora - $48,178
Watame - $45,045
Calliope - $44,817
Ayame - $43,970
Miko - $42,056
Kiara - $40,419
Subaru - $38,755
Coco - $32,575
Noel - $31,174
Suisei - $29,888
Okayu - $26,412
Aqua - $23,885
Gura (2m) - $23,411
Gura (1m) - $17,547
Korone - $17,359
Amelia - $15,976
Fubuki - $14,995
Ina - $13,105
Haato - $11,008
Matsuri - $8,578
Gura (3m) - $5,316

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:02:03 2021 No.6692020
File: 98 KB, 683x317, tutorial boss.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

1 hour before debut.
Looks like unless Petra gets a last minute surge of subs, no one will defeat the tutorial boss again.
Ame decided to do a guerilla apex stream so that might cut into the debut as well.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:09:06 2021 No.6692298 Number predictions for Nijisanji EN Wave 2 Debut?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:10:39 2021 No.6692353 >>6692298 15-20k

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:12:15 2021 No.6692408 >>6692298 Petra 20k The other 2 probably around 16-18k

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:12:16 2021 No.6692409 >>6692298 20k max Sub-wise they pretty much got the same as wave 1 if Susan didn't cut their subs. Petra being the outlier who seems popular off design.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:13:55 2021 No.6692478 File: 71 KB, 744x281, 46838746346.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6692298 20k max

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:17:16 2021 No.6692660
File: 541 KB, 720x523, IMG_20210718_065607.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

I'm more interested in Rushia's 3D live. People are speculating Shion and Haachama are going to show up. Ayame, Pekora and Okayu are going to be there. Just those 3 already will bring numbers in but the possibility of cunny and the edgelord showing up, I can't predict it properly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:19:29 2021 No.6692783 >>6692660 >speculating Their silhouette is right there. It's pre-recorded though, so it's not going to have that big of an impact for people who miss them. Still, I predict 90k+.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:19:46 2021 No.6692794 >>6692660 Unless it was pre-recorded way in advance, weird that Haachama shows up for Rushia's 3D live but not Matsuri's gen 1 collab.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:21:17 2021 No.6692887 >>6692783 Marine got 100k for her prercorded live. People still can't decide if it is really Haachama

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:21:22 2021 No.6692894 >>6692660 Is this pre-recorded 3D event?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:25:38 2021 No.6693095 >>6692894 It doesn't say that it is pre-recorded but I am assuming that some are going to be.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:25:45 2021 No.6693096 File: 483 KB, 720x720, Akai_Haato_Portrait.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6692887 People are dumb.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:27:00 2021 No.6693146

>>6692020
Petra has a hail mary shot chance to make it before her debut but Rosemi has to really REALLY hit it out of the park but with such a short debut I doubt that happens. I still don't get why NijiEN is still doing the whole 25 min debut schtick. The 1 hour debut has pretty much been standardized in the west thanks to Hololive. No reason not to copy it since they're pretty much trying to appeal to the Hololive audience anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:27:14 2021 No.6693157 >>6693096 You can see prechat right now. Some are saying that the yellow one is Miko.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:29:25 2021 No.6693252 >>6693146 They're trying to skip the awkwardness that comes with a 1 hour debut but that also means that they're hoping you tune in tomorrow to really get to know them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:29:41 2021 No.6693259 >>6693095 Rushia already confirmed it's 100% pre-recorded. >>6693157 Like I said, people are dumb, I also thought it was Miko the moment I first saw it, but you just have to look at their models and compare. It's pretty obvious.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:30:07 2021 No.6693282 >>6692894 It was actually 139k. The most watched Hololive 3D concert (excluding Coco's graduation) since Miko's return.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:34:03 2021 No.6693446 >>6693282 I'm sorry, but what?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:34:33 2021 No.6693464 >>6693446 mb, it was meant for >>6692887

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:36:33 2021 No.6693537

>>6693252
The thing is most casuals are not gonna stick around for the 2nd stream. If they did, then Elira and Pomu would have had a bigger audience on their 2nd stream and Finana would have hit around the same number as her other wavemates instead of the 9k the she got. This girls have 1 chance to make an impression. Yes, that initial impression isn't gonna stick but it at least helps them appeal to the masses. Not to mention, it lets us laugh when they inevitably look back at their debut and die inside due to embarassment.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:39:10 2021 No.6693638 >>6693282 Then hitting 100k for this one might be possible since she has Shion, Ayame, Pekora and Haachama. Okayu is great but her 3D live is always Towa levels which is great but not 100k. So far SC rainbows are just pouring in from her gachikois.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:39:41 2021 No.6693659 >>6692408 Their debuts are so short that most of the viewers will flock to the next one with increasing numbers on the way. >Rosemi<Petra<Selen

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:42:11 2021 No.6693764

>>6693537
You got a point but it isn’t guaranteed that people might sit and watch debut streams for 3 hours straight. Depending on the time, the last (late) debut streams might suffer from lesser viewers than the other two. But 30-40 mins should be enough for me at least, to watch the three of them

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:43:59 2021 No.6693844 >>6691791 Gura fans don’t spend much. Guess its true they tend to be younger?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:50:26 2021 No.6694124 >>6692660 Rushia -> 10k Okayu (purple) -> 7k Ayame (red) -> 15k Pekora (bright blue) -> 25k Unknown (dark blue) -> ?k Unknown (yellow) -> ?k 57k + 40k box push + 20% tourist -> at least 110k

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:52:59 2021 No.6694253 >>6693764 I still believe Holo EN debut schedule is the best. 1 hour debut then giving some hours for people to react and share until the next member, for a full day of debut madness.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:54:52 2021 No.6694348 >>6693844 She didn't do any celebration stream. The only one she did is 2m which is like when the hype dies down. Her birthday stream did pretty well, btw what's that chart ranking based off? Is it when they hit the milestone or when they celebrate it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:55:10 2021 No.6694360 >>6694124 Dark blue is Shion. The giveaway is the hat. Yellow is Haachama. The giveaway is her pony tail.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:56:12 2021 No.6694416

>>6694253
Hololive has literally built a loyal and huhe fandom on the west and would literally bite anything that hololive offers. On the other hand, these girls are literally who to them not know their background and the company they came from meaning that they wouldn’t be invested that much in the first place let alone watching them for hours

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:56:57 2021 No.6694459 >>6693844 Gura didn't celebrate her 1M. She was streaming a collab with Calli when it happened. She never setup a celebration stream for it. She only did one for the 2M. Supposedly because of peer pressure from Kiara.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 21:57:01 2021 No.6694464 >>6691791 Gura never had a milestone stream of singing and what not until X subs. The closest she had was a celebration karaoke some time after for the 2M.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:00:30 2021 No.6694642 Pre-debut: Trailer: 1.24m Twitter: 8.6k likes 142.7k views Rosemi: 26.7k Selen: 26.8k Petra: 31.3k

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:01:44 2021 No.6694712

>>6693844
She doesn't milk her fans. No monetized streams after unarchieved karaoke streams. SC turned off during SC readings. Most SCs are ignored. Doesn't do celebration streams unless pushed by her gen mates or corpo mandates. No marathon streams. "Accidentally" broke her chum jar. etc etc etc. Still make more than half a million within a year. How does she do it?

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:02:29 2021 No.6694754

>>6694348
30 mins for each girl and then ending on a collab is a great setup.
>>6694416
One thing you missed is that Hololive don't release talents very often. There is big gap between gen 4 to gen 5. Id1 to Id2 and even EN1 to Vsinger. If we are assuming that the core audience for all three branches are somewhat different, you can assume that the anticipation is already at its peak by the time they release any info so having a day for 1 talent is doable. NiniEN has only been here for 2 months.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:03:15 2021 No.6694814 Mikochi is joining numberfags gang https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgeOjPCf4nE

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:04:17 2021 No.6694872 Is this thread going to be Holowank thread from now on? Because there's no way people will be able to notice Niji's pathetic numbers without Vnuma

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:06:00 2021 No.6694973 >>6694712 You can say the same for Ina, Polka, Suisei, Mio and Choco. You might be surprised but there's a number of them that don't do SC reading streams after a game. Miko for one plays a lot of games like gta that don't even have SCs allowed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:06:44 2021 No.6695027 >>6694754 I think Hololive did hype build up better this time. The countdown stream without any information made the hololive fanbase go crazy for a whole day.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:08:03 2021 No.6695111

>>6694124
>>6694360
>Dark blue is Shion. Yellow is Haachama.
Thanks.

Shion -> 10k
Haachama -> 10k
110k + 20k -> 130k, this number is equivalent to Marine's 1M event. But Shion and Haachama haven't streamed in awhile, so they'll get higher than 130k, but idk what the peak would be. Return streams for holo are outliers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:08:55 2021 No.6695153 >>6694814 Elite weekly song ranking

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:11:24 2021 No.6695281

>>6695027
No ads though and the MV for her first single is cut in half because they overproduced it. Sad because the good part was the second half of the song. She also was locked in Twitter jail for the whole duration. Clips of holos getting hyped about the new talent and the memes about her being Kanata and Towa's kid salvaged it.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:11:51 2021 No.6695311
File: 96 KB, 1280x720, the toya.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>6694872
as a nijifag who is in these threads even i don't care enough to keep an eye on all the streams and post about who randomly gets 2k USD in superchat for the day because he mentioned his roof is leaking, you friends are on your own now!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:12:56 2021 No.6695393 >>6695281 Not like Hololive needs ads to get people to know about their upcoming gen.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:15:25 2021 No.6695564 >>6695281 The power of memes and clips that holos have is strong and helped IRyS growth. But I doubt her debut would had terrible numbers without them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:16:10 2021 No.6695616 >>6692408 Rosemi is at 8.8k right now. 15mins in.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:17:04 2021 No.6695684 >>6694872 There has to be some other autist that will make a site right?

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:17:58 2021 No.6695753

>>6695281
>>6695393
If Holo were to put ads for debuts or concerts, which audience should they target?
Vtuber tag is out of question since that would be a waste money.
I'm thinking of anime and JRPG, but holo gets shilled pretty often in those fandoms. idk what else.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:18:01 2021 No.6695755 >>6695616 Amelia unironically has more viewers playing fucking Apex. Holy shit NijiEN is even deader than I thought.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:18:35 2021 No.6695792

>>6695393
They needs ads on non-vtuber but JP-adjacent crowd to expand their market though. I think the well has dried out on the audience that is attracted from clips.
But I dunno I'm just speculating maybe the numbers post-coco grad can tell us if the incline is getting bigger.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:23:38 2021 No.6696242

>>6695753
I honestly don't know where. Just the fact that her senpais discussed about her is already enough promotion already for me. They all have a big audience. It also helps that clippers took those moments and shared it which spread it even more. Hololive is good with hyping up each other

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:23:55 2021 No.6696261 Debut numbers seem to be just about the same as the last wave. It's good that they kept the audience but I don't think they were able to grow them at all

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:24:48 2021 No.6696333 >>6695755 She bas 12k now but stream is about to end

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:25:17 2021 No.6696365 >>6695755 She's at 11k now, so not anymore. For some reason, Niji is doing that commentator thing again and Pomu is stealing 5k views from Rose girl's debut.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:25:54 2021 No.6696412 >>6696261 Their audience are mostly holofags who pretend they know nijisanji so yeah, the numbers arent that great

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:27:43 2021 No.6696565 >>6696365 Wait, they're doing the commentary shit again?! FUUCKING DUMBAASSSES!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:28:48 2021 No.6696644 >>6696365 Most of those 5k are repeat viewers on both streams anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:30:13 2021 No.6696770 >>6696365 >11k on a hyped up debut >Ame has 10k on a fucking run of the mill Apex stream What an absolute travesty. Just close the fucking branch Nijisanji. Dead on Arrival.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:30:46 2021 No.6696817 Rosemi peaked at 12,354 viewers. Less than Pomu.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:30:54 2021 No.6696832 Rose confirmed miki Selen/Doki: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X13Hgb2MZ-Q&t=2710s Petra/Shachi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axrHHG_bzOM

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:32:48 2021 No.6696984 >>6696412 Yeah I'm believing this rrat. NijiEN audience are contrarian HoloFags. >>6696644 Youtube doesn't work that way. Tabbed out theory is the prevailing theory on how viewers are not counted.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:35:03 2021 No.6697157 >>6696984 It feels like the old counting method is in effect for the "waiting" and then the new method is applied when it's switched to "live viewers".

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:35:27 2021 No.6697182 >>6692478 The numbers are actually on the lower side, 12.5k for Rose. huh? Petra could get higher than Elira at least seeing she's the most hype being HER and all to compete with Gura

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:35:46 2021 No.6697213 Penguin already beat Elira's numbers. I kneel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:37:16 2021 No.6697343 >>6696817 Damn I didn't expect that, even if it was by such a little difference. If Petra doesn't surpass Elira's numbers I will be disappointed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:38:00 2021 No.6697411 These NijiEN numbers are really bad. Hopefully they scrap the idea for more waves after this disaster.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:39:09 2021 No.6697513 >>6696832 She sounds like her

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:39:23 2021 No.6697534 no one can beat this intro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U6eHY1M9WM

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:39:33 2021 No.6697549 Petra is winning through the power of cunny and penguin alone.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:42:25 2021 No.6697888 What's the numbers so far? I ain't giving views to these low view streams just to check numbers, when that's going to affect their viewer numbers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:43:23 2021 No.6697973 >>6697888 14k

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:43:30 2021 No.6697989 >>6697888 The numbers are bad, that is all you need to know. Amelia playing Apex has more numbers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:44:35 2021 No.6698101 >>6697888 Based double-slit poster.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:45:32 2021 No.6698184 >>6697989 I'm actually watching ame. She makes this game bearable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:48:18 2021 No.6698421 >>6697888 see >>6692478 rose same view as pomu and penguin same as elira. idk bout the next one yet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:49:34 2021 No.6698535 Well that definitely isn't going to beat gura. The voice feels fake like anime dubs

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:49:44 2021 No.6698548 >>6697888 You can still somewhat check using Nijidex section in Holodex, that is what I do to peek at their numbers without giving one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:51:13 2021 No.6698666 They are overlapping with LazuLight this time. It's obviously much worse than overlapping with random Indogs. Why is Nijisanji so fucking retarded?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:51:44 2021 No.6698717 Seems she ahrdcapped at 15k to be honest the fake voice is a debuff. And her snow halation was weak.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:52:11 2021 No.6698762 >>6697989 Stop lying. I'm watching Ame over Petra rn too, but come on. Petra: 15k Ame: 9k

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:52:24 2021 No.6698783 >>6698548 those numbers are always delayed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:52:55 2021 No.6698819 >>6698717 She was being hyped up as the next Gura so that was a let down. Then again, never compare anyone to Gura.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:55:29 2021 No.6699039 Petra peaked at 15,312 viewers. 500 more than Elira. Also why is everyone obligated to say they love Nijisanji?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:55:52 2021 No.6699078 File: 324 KB, 796x549, Petragurin.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 15k+

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:56:11 2021 No.6699094 >>6699039 was that in the first batch goals? i dont rememeber it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:56:42 2021 No.6699134 >>6698783 Better than nothing and easy to use.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 22:58:28 2021 No.6699296 >>6699039 Boomer corporate marketing skills, think brand loyalty and virality can be induced through catchphrase. >>6699078 Thanks anon

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:00:15 2021 No.6699429 >>6692478 >Rosemi<Pomu >Petra<Elira At least Selen will beat Finana (0) that's for sure.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:01:28 2021 No.6699523 >14k waiting down to 8k live viewers What the fuck Youtube

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:02:01 2021 No.6699580 so did Fishtank/Meme review not really debuff NijiEN gen 1 as much as expected, or is this second batch weaker? They're pulling about the same numbers when they've got everything wide open for them right now

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:04:24 2021 No.6699811 >>6699580 Everyone's watching Apex

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:06:09 2021 No.6699991 >>6699580 First wave had that "New shiny toy" buff. I really do think they would've gotten at least 20k if the timeslot was wide open.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:07:22 2021 No.6700126 >>6699523 Numbers fucked somehow? Been 5 minutes and her live viewers still aren't as high as waiting numbers

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:08:08 2021 No.6700200 >>6700126 Are you new? This has been the case since December of last year.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:09:03 2021 No.6700288

>>6699580
If you're watching numbers for a long time you will notice that there is barely overlap for the live audience of NijiJP and HoloJP.

We can't conclude anything on the EN audience because the time zones vary a lot and barely overlap.

This rrat is looking true
>Their audience are mostly holofags who pretend they know nijisanji so yeah, the numbers arent that great

>>6700126
See this >>6697157

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:09:28 2021 No.6700329 >>6700126 Evenyone drops numbers when streams start Stop finding excuses

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:11:12 2021 No.6700543 >>6699580 I think gen1 debuff hour rrat is dead now. Their audience is simply different, Nijis debut all the time and west viewers hardly notice it, but a Holo debuts in any branch and west viewers will attend.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:11:49 2021 No.6700584

Currently at 13K. Finana I think was at 16k+ or something when she was having tech issues. This may actually support my theory that the audience for NijiEN barely grew (if it even did) at all. There's a real high chance that they're gonna cannabalize each others viewers assuming none of them give a fuck about overlapping with each other

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:12:14 2021 No.6700616 >>6699039 To be fair maybe half of the recent hololive debuts will also talk about liking hololive, though I don't recall any of them actually putting it up in their likes, on-screen.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:14:01 2021 No.6700773 >>6700584 >This may actually support my theory is a fact will only be more obcious when they overlap

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:14:30 2021 No.6700812 >>6699811 that's me. i'm watching elu play apex instead. almost diamond.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:15:05 2021 No.6700854 >>6698762 NTA but how long did she retain the 15K? When people here said she got more than Eliria's I went to see myself but at that point it was at 12.8K

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:15:18 2021 No.6700885

>>6700584
On the other hand having 6 people might help them grow faster since they have more members to play off now. But for that I reckon they need to pray Cover doesn't drop the holoEN2 bomb this month. Give them a few more months to grow and they should be fine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:15:50 2021 No.6700947 >>6699039 For fairness, would you think it's weird that future gens of Hololive debuts say they love Hololive? If that's not weird, then Niji debuts saying they love Nijisanji isn't weird either.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:15:54 2021 No.6700958

>>6700288
Gura got 17k playing MC in JP primetime and then got 22k on her regular timeslot. We can conclude from that the audience for her at least are in NA primetime. This cannot be said for some JP talents like Marine who got 22k playing MC NA primetime. Fubuki also still maintains her range of 8-13k when streaming NA primetime.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:16:48 2021 No.6701046 >>6700885 August and September are both really busy for Holo, Its almost guaranteed that they will debut later this month.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:17:33 2021 No.6701117 >>6700885 If i am cover's executive, i will drop the announcement next week, be fucking ruthless.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:17:58 2021 No.6701168 >>6700947 I mean a lot of people had issues with Kiara fangirling Peko so much on her debut... so maybe? Also, that neck... I can't fucking unsee it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:18:02 2021 No.6701173 Selen peaked at 14,230 viewers

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:19:19 2021 No.6701265

>>6700947
Some of them already mention it on their debuts. Not all of them put it up on a slide as a bullet point and talk about wanting to spread hololive love to more people. If any future hololive gen all have "Likes: Hololive" in their debut presentations then I can see it being the same.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:19:29 2021 No.6701275 Pre-debut: Rosemi: 26.7k Selen: 26.8k Petra: 31.3k Post-Deubt: Rosemi: 33.4k Selen: 33.5k Petra: 39.5k

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:19:42 2021 No.6701287 File: 582 KB, 778x543, Selentatsuki.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 14k+ views. I didn't catch the rose girl, what's her number?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:19:49 2021 No.6701295 >>6700200 I've watched HoloEN on and off since their debut, basically just watching when I see them in my subs tab so I've never noticed waiting vs live viewers

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:20:38 2021 No.6701348 They had ads and streamlabs on for debut. Can't they just hide a bit better to not show that they're milking as much money from livers? I realized they're also streaming 7 times a week without a salary.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:20:42 2021 No.6701352 >>6700854 barely she was going 14.8k most of the time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:21:14 2021 No.6701393 >>6701046 Hey, I could see Cover just debuting EN gen 2 over gen 5's anniversaries and fucking them over again.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:22:04 2021 No.6701448 >>6701275 Ankimo killed 2

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:22:19 2021 No.6701463 >>6701393 same day? not gonna happen

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:22:31 2021 No.6701485

>>6701117
Or maybe there was a leak that Cover will release Gen2 on July so companies scrambled to release them before Cover does.
And before anyone tells me 2 months for NijiEN was planned, 2 is just arbitrary and could have been 3 or 4.

>>6701393
This could happen and Cover will just say its Hololive Month.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:23:25 2021 No.6701547 So looking at their stream times. They will all overlap (they all stream in the same 6 hour window) A+ for scheduling.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:23:50 2021 No.6701567 >>6701348 youtube runs ads on non-monetized videos too now

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:24:46 2021 No.6701615 >>6701348 Main english channel is also monetized kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:25:23 2021 No.6701656 >>6700584 NijiEN's future.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:26:51 2021 No.6701740 >>6701117 I don't believe HoloEN2 debuts before IRyS has her collabs with the rest of HoloEN. That would be around 1 month after her debut, unless something changes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:26:56 2021 No.6701744 >>6701567 yeah, w/c is kinda annoying that my playlist of music have 2 ads on each of them even tho they are anime/nightcore music

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:27:08 2021 No.6701762 >>6701656 Their male wing should see significant audience growth. It would be better for NijiEN as a whole but the Lazulight/Obsydia girls would have to hope they don't end up going the way of the NijiJP girls.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:28:12 2021 No.6701832 >>6701448 I kneel Ankimo, sasuga tutorial boss

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:28:31 2021 No.6701852 File: 713 KB, 1941x2117, 3467346346346.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6700584 Their future. 4 more later this year then another gen (nijimale).

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:28:56 2021 No.6701875 Good morning manjisanji schizo

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:29:58 2021 No.6701933 >>6701485 I get the smaller agencies rushing, but wouldn't it be smarter for NijiEN to release wave 2 later? Doing it too early is like putting all your eggs in one basket.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:30:26 2021 No.6701972 >>6701615 that ok, as long as they dont do memberships becasue that is just fucking reatrded

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:33:34 2021 No.6702180 >>6701852 One gen every 2-3 months just like EN is starting to project.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:33:36 2021 No.6702182 >>6701933 I heard they have another batch(mixed boys and girls) on the way already, maybe that's why?

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:34:27 2021 No.6702236

I don't see any problem with gen 2 debuting next month with other anniversaries, just don't put them on same days. It will make the whole month a holo festival, non stop hololive. Remember the month when cover did the multiple outfit reveals and those build hype around each other and buff each other.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:35:09 2021 No.6702287 >>6701933 Boomer Company pls understand. They think first mover advantage means to saturate the market first.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:37:14 2021 No.6702408 HoloEN 2 is going to mog these Niji debuts so bad. As a number fag the numbers on these debuts offends me. Truly pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:38:07 2021 No.6702449 >>6702182 Wave 1: Lazulight & Obsydia Wave 2: The 4 silhouette girls Wave 3: Males >>6701933 This is how Nijisanji has always operated.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:39:03 2021 No.6702512

>>6702182
Honestly I think this will just sour NijiEN fans opinions. Especially if Nijisanji starts showing its way of just not supporting the low earners.
>>6702408
Really goes to show how much of those ad paid million views on the trailer really mattered.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:39:18 2021 No.6702526 >>6702287 >first mover advantage >july 2021 they're a good 10 months too late for that or over a year if you count the beginning of the en vtuber boom which was sometime in march

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:41:52 2021 No.6702689 >>6702408 It's worrying that there's no growth since the first gen. All of lazulight is over 100k subs now yet the same amount of people showed up for the new debuts.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:42:29 2021 No.6702722 >>6702526 Which is why its boomer thinking, timescales of months are nothing for top management, when in reality content creators live and die by the day.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:42:31 2021 No.6702724 >>6701933 this retards never learn, repeating the same mistakes over and over

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:43:17 2021 No.6702764 >>6702449 >4 silhouette I thought there were only 3 of them? >wave 3: male So it isn't a mix wave like in the other branches?

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:43:56 2021 No.6702800

>>6701852
Fuck this shit, also why i dislike niji, feels like throwing out multiple tools and see which one sticks and grow your company name only. At least yagoo didn't debut a new gen of holostars because they are struggling and now they are inclining. Niji should put some fucking faith on their own talents.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:45:00 2021 No.6702846

>>6701933
They're kinda stuck in a shit situation. Debut before and get mogged by Hololive a couple weeks later or debut later and lose all interest in your debuts cause Hololive.
The collab ban actually helps Hololive because it gives them the second wave of hype when/if the new wave starts collabing with other girls and branches.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:45:30 2021 No.6702876 >>6702800 6 is still manageable and even good for collabs but if they do debut another 3 EN girls this year it's fucking over

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:45:42 2021 No.6702885

Okay, so what's the point of getting an Apex pred for the gen? It's popular for JOPs yeah, but they're not gonna watch her play it. She doesn't speak that much JP. The game does not appeal to the global audience too. It didn't get into the top ranked game to stream a while ago

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:46:06 2021 No.6702897 >>6702689 >>6702800 Let's be fair here, this strategy worked in Japan, and they haven't debuted new Japanese livers in a long time now after seeing Serene fail to capture any new fans.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:46:46 2021 No.6702938 >>6702800 ding ding ding. Nijisanji has always been trash. They are going to flood the market with shitty EN vtubers and its going to burn everybody out on the entire thing. Makes me appreciate Hololive ever more.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:46:50 2021 No.6702941 >>6702449 >Wave 1: Lazulight & Obsydia Obsydia is wave 2

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:47:10 2021 No.6702963

>>6702800
Well Yagoo even told us his philosophy on this.
He doesn't believe he should release another gen until there is market demand for one.
>>6702876
They're doing the 4 pre-made ones and the male wave this year.
>>6702897
Because Nijisanji was the only big player at the time. Hololive was a nobody and .LIVE and upd8 imploded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:48:04 2021 No.6703005 >>6702897 Strategy only worked since they're the only top agency at the time. Now 2020 happened, and vtubers inclined as a whole and now everyone's getting on it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:48:22 2021 No.6703025 >>6702897 Well, the strategy was working in Japan because they are the first mover. Obviously, it isn't working in EN because they aren't the first mover

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:48:23 2021 No.6703026

>>6702846
If they debut later they have the option of adjusting their streaming styles to play up what holoEN gen 2 might theoretically lack, put some of that Nijisanji creative freedom to use. That'd help their debuts catch more attention.
>>6702885
The JOPs will watch her play if she's as good as people say, expect her to be the most in-demand NijiEN for JP collabs very soon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:49:30 2021 No.6703075 >>6702938 Given who they're hiring, they're not flooding the market with anything new. They're just repackaging the existing scene.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:49:44 2021 No.6703082 >>6702941 No, Pomu literally said it's a staggered release of Wave 1.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:50:35 2021 No.6703132 >>6701852 Why does everyone have a massive dip right around the same time? Did youtube purge subs en mass?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:51:06 2021 No.6703156 >>6703026 She doesn't speak Japanese. Bura is popular because of two reason: 1. She did VERY well in the Hal's Apex tournament. 2. She only speaks Japanese in her streams now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:51:42 2021 No.6703185 >>6703082 Go change the wiki then https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Nijisanji

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:52:56 2021 No.6703236 >>6702963 Yagoo has this believe about debuting a new gen every 4-6 months it gives the previous girls enough time to grew a solid fanbase and makes every debut a special occasion

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:53:08 2021 No.6703243 >>6703082 Their official reddit says it's a second wave https://www.reddit.com/r/Nijisanji/comments/ojudvd/please_welcome_nijisanji_en_second_wave_vtuber/

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:54:15 2021 No.6703294 Apex numbers for western scene ain't that big, only shiv, timmyz, aceu and hal have good numbers. Euriece numbers are high because he has a jp audience lol.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:54:23 2021 No.6703301 File: 73 KB, 284x485, wave 2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6703082

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:55:00 2021 No.6703339 >>6703156 Huh, guess she better start learning the language then, at least enough of it so she can communicate simple locations and directions in APEX.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:55:18 2021 No.6703348 >>6703236 It's the same shit with costumes. You notice how Coco got her addidas costume and a month or two later got her fully rigged dragon pajama costume due to graduation? They're spread apart intentionally so there's always hype about a costume.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:55:19 2021 No.6703349

>>6702885
It's a misconception to think that the JP audience won't watch an EN chuuba unless they speak jap, if anything it is the opposite. if they wanted to listen to people speaking jap they have a whole bunch of chuubas to choose from. the type of japanese fan that would watch an EN branch to begin with probably doesn't care or even wants them to speak english

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:56:02 2021 No.6703388 at this point the more "real" personality streamer type vtuber is getting saturated. Vtubers are going to have to adapt with new technology or something special to stand out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:56:48 2021 No.6703432 Any bets the song is gonna have ads too and gets boosted by numbers?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 23:57:36 2021 No.6703469 >>6703236 Both HoloJP and NijiJP have not debuted any new additions for a year now, I bet any new appearances would be a special occasion for both agencies and draw pretty big numbers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:04:06 2021 No.6703739 >>6703236 And he would be right. No wonder Hololive has been mogging Nijisanji since mid-2020 at least. They aren't run by a zoomer schizo who needs to see new toys every other month.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:04:50 2021 No.6703772 >>6703294 Yeah , if apex girl wants to succeed in a big way she needs the jp audience and nijisanji's jp audience is a bunch of disloyal bitches.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:09:02 2021 No.6703976 >>6703772 anon if apex girl wants to succeed she needs to go esports or be a twitch streamer. But since she isn't then she already washed out. There is a reason e-sports players tend to fade into obscurity.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:12:36 2021 No.6704138 >>6703082 They auditioned at the same time, but it's wave 2. The kemonomimi chicks are going to be wave 3 as seen from the name of the audition image. The boys will be slotted in after them in a probably wave 3.5 sort of deal.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:22:13 2021 No.6704594 How nice of Irys to drop her cover on the same day as NijiEN gen2's debut. We can actually numberfag the views of both songs since they're released on the same day.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:23:39 2021 No.6704648 >>6704594 Niji's is gonna get boosted by ads. same way the Lazulight one got boosted.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:25:09 2021 No.6704708 >>6703432 That is not even a bet, just a company standard at this point. The song views will get a hard stop anyways once the adds are removed, just like it happened with the first song.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:25:58 2021 No.6704747 >>6703469 I bet they were trying to debut JP6 after EN but after seeing the huge succes of EN they decided to put EN2 before and JP6 to the end of this year

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:26:00 2021 No.6704750 >>6703026 > creative freedom I find it more interesting when the talents try to work with the restriction and pull ahead like what Ame does once a week. It gives off the illusion that they could perform better than performers with trashy taste.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:27:53 2021 No.6704814 >>6704594 Who made the announcement first?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:30:50 2021 No.6704919 >>6704594 nijianji is really good at pushing their songs on youtube, they must have learned all the sony tricks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:32:21 2021 No.6704970 >>6704919 >really good they just buy ads, at least for en

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:32:36 2021 No.6704978 >>6704594 Obsydia will get the advantage and reach 1M first and then stop, IRyS cover will surpass it in a week or so and continue growing.

Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:34:46 2021 No.6705051

>>6704750
There's the concept in art circles that "restrictions breed creativity".

Given the budget to do anything? You end up getting the best tools and paints.

Forced to scrounge from a dollar store for your supplies?

You can end up.with some really out-there solutions because you have no other choice.

Now, given how heavy-handed management has been from the stories, they could lighten up a bit, but it definitely shouldn't be viewed as "all restrictions BAD".

Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:36:46 2021 No.6705109
File: 1.58 MB, 904x863, buildings.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>6704919
They're extremely well-connected with major record labels, I don't think people actually understand just how much bigger they are. Pic related, left is the building where Cover's office is, right is where you can find AnyColor.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:37:20 2021 No.6705123 >>6704919 They have great starts but have lower legs than holo songs

Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:38:24 2021 No.6705159

>>6705051
A lot of the restrictions sound more like bureaucratic paperwork than actual rejections: see Kanata dropping DolUta because it was too much work to file reports every week. They definitely need to cut down on the red tape so that the streamers can be more responsive.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:39:02 2021 No.6705180 >>6705109 I don't know that an office room in a big building filled with other offices really means anything.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:39:59 2021 No.6705213 File: 25 KB, 658x223, 438638468346346.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6704919 the jp boomer buying ads vs the kpop number pushing views

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:40:05 2021 No.6705219 >>6705123 Never saw a source, but Niji fans always said their discs sold better than holos.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:40:13 2021 No.6705226 >>6705180 Prices are far higher in Tokyo Midtown whether you're renting or purchasing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:40:47 2021 No.6705245 >>6691791 what's wrong with cuckbeats?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:41:27 2021 No.6705265 >>6705180 Higher rent I guess. It’s like tech firms who build a giant campus to show off. >>6705219 Only palette does iirc.

Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:41:45 2021 No.6705276

>>6705051
Yeah, I kinda see it. Niji's have all the creative freedom but only the actual creative people can use it like Mayazumi and Mito. While someone like Ame and Haachama can work around restrictions because a truly creative person can always work around it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:42:41 2021 No.6705307 >>6701448 My nigga ankimo is ruthless

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:45:33 2021 No.6705410 >>6705276 An artist can make great innovations upon limitations.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:46:23 2021 No.6705438 >>6702236 Yeah. Idk why anons said they wouldnt do it cause anniversaries. In fact i could totally see them drop the EN2 right after EN1 anniv week

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:49:34 2021 No.6705557 >>6705438 EN2 to drop on EN1 anniversary is too late imo.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:50:15 2021 No.6705572 >>6702800 Welcome to nijisanji. Their brand name matter most and their talents are just another part timers. And nijiniggers will still defend them. Talking about corporate bootlicker

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:54:02 2021 No.6705688 >>6705572 The worst thing is that the new EOPs that came for nijiEN actually believe it's a small indie company or something because they are not as big as hololive in the west

Anonymous Sun Jul 18 00:59:11 2021 No.6705839

>>6703469
There's a reason for it. For cover it's probably to stabilize their inner management first and build a solid office team. As for anykara, they seem to saw there's no point in hiring any rando with half of interest in vtubing and go with that academy thingy to filter them en masse.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 01:00:52 2021 No.6705895 Rushia anniversary SC prediction?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 01:01:26 2021 No.6705925 >>6705688 >Nijisanji >small indie company You got any sources/screens of this? Might be worth a laugh.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 01:03:00 2021 No.6705990 >>6704594 Is it a cover if it's a original by other holo? >Hololive: Can You Do the hololive? >Kanata: Ahoy! Are those covers too?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 01:04:15 2021 No.6706063 >>6705159 Cover doesnt have the massive connection anycara have. Please understand, like for real. They are only small time agencies that got lucky to struck gold

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 01:05:54 2021 No.6706165 >>6705109 Makes it that much more amazing that Hololive routinely mogs them on a consistent basis with much less resources. Even Hololive music performs a lot better on youtube than Nijisanji music does.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 01:06:37 2021 No.6706198 >>6706165 Is it the same on Oricon? I notice a lot of Hololive music charts on Oricon as well.

Anonymous Sun Jul 18 01:07:35 2021 No.6706246

>>6704919
Do you watch those weekly song rankings? The top 10 is always dominated by Hololive while the highest ranking Niji song is in the 30's. Nijisanji music doesn't even do better than whatever group Kaf and Rim are a part of. Hololive music does MUCH better than Niji music.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 01:17:37 2021 No.6706795 >>6706246 Never seen a mixed ranking of Holo and Niji in the same video, only on separate videos of different channels, much like week/month subs count comparison or ranking videos.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 01:20:42 2021 No.6707038 >>6706246 Kaf and Rim are part of Kamisubaki Studio, the all stars of Vsinger

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 01:21:04 2021 No.6707063 >>6706795 There's one that gets posted weekly that does a comparison of Youtube V-tuber originals by Views Per Week. Guess what song has been sitting as king for the past few weeks?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 01:22:39 2021 No.6707134 >>6706795 https://youtu.be/XeEPHU_Fa68 The most recent one

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 01:24:11 2021 No.6707224 >>6707134 Not that one this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq9eqHDKJPE

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 01:29:08 2021 No.6707479 File: 13 KB, 475x152, 43683847634636.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] baseball love!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 01:29:50 2021 No.6707532 I’ll never understand the Japanese autistic love for baseball.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 01:31:33 2021 No.6707638 >>6707479 This is NijiJP territory until the big Finals pretty much. Not entirely unexpected, and expecting +30k at least on the finals compared to last year.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 01:33:15 2021 No.6707717 >>6707224 Damn you KFPfags almost made me give her one view

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 01:34:34 2021 No.6707816 >The flower peaked 3k faster than her senpais

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 01:35:01 2021 No.6707840 >>6707532 I could say the same about American football

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 01:39:08 2021 No.6708025 >>6707134 Interesting how the channel has such few views compared to dedicated Holo or Niji channels with the same idea and less effort, having as the description says 2,563 tracked songs including indies.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 01:41:37 2021 No.6708134 Where is my football chuubas at? Cover please? Football watchalong, football games and fantasy football chuuba.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 01:43:39 2021 No.6708225 >>6708025 This appears to be someone's personal channel, that isn't SEO optimized (channel name, meta tags) and is more of a nice little thing to share amongst the numbers thread unlike say..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgeOjPCf4nE

Anonymous Sun Jul 18 01:54:48 2021 No.6708701

>>6708025
I wouldn't say the dedicated channels have less effort, if anything they have more and that is why they are a lot more popular. The one I linked is great because it tracks all vtubers and not just Holo/Niji but its pretty bare bones. The dedicated ones have all the fancy editing/transitions that draw people in.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 01:55:37 2021 No.6708724 >>6707134 I always wonder how the hell the Hololive intro song always gets near top 10.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 01:56:51 2021 No.6708766 Do we have a ratio of which holo is lewded the most in art? Also, do we have a way to pull up all lewd art of a holo on twitter?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 01:59:11 2021 No.6708856 >>6708701 Well I see more effort tracking 2,563 songs from holos/nijis/other/indies at the same time. And the fact that he has to edit a top 100 instead of top 30/50 to display his numbers widely.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 01:59:42 2021 No.6708877 >>6705213 This has really slowed down in pace hasn't it? It had a fast sprint but now I'm not sure it'll be able to catch up to RIP.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:02:01 2021 No.6708969 >>6705276 Ame has been doing animal review streams and subaru is currently looking at things under a microscope. Does that count?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:03:22 2021 No.6709042 >>6708877 It will eventually, though it will probably take a few months to get there. It's still gaining 200k views a week which is more than most Holo originals

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:07:30 2021 No.6709257 >>6709042 RIP is gaining ~400k views a week after ~9 months Reflect is gaining 750k views 3 weeks. We'll see how it looks in a few months when (hopefully) Gura has released more songs on her channel.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:07:35 2021 No.6709262 >>6709042 This week still had 750k

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:12:30 2021 No.6709463 >>6709042 >200k a week? >>6707224 shows that it's gaining nearly double RIP's views weekly.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:13:41 2021 No.6709515 >>6705990 Yes, they are. Do you have a different term in mind?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:15:56 2021 No.6709626 >>6708969 That's cute but no

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:16:47 2021 No.6709656 >>6709515 Yep, they're still covers. You can put them under "Hololive Originals" though since they're different in that they still originate from Hololive.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:17:41 2021 No.6709700 >>6708969 Not that anon, but yes, i am glad ame is trying different things too. No offence to coco, but i think she just ran out of ideas on what to do.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:19:31 2021 No.6709788 >>6709257 >>6709262 >>6709463 That'll teach me to recite numbers from memory

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:21:02 2021 No.6709846 >>6707638 August and September are packed with Holo events, too. Sport festival will begin in October.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:22:36 2021 No.6709913 >>6707224 Nice move kfpfag kekek

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:26:04 2021 No.6710064 >>6709700 >she just ran out of ideas on what to do Nah. I feel she got demoralized from being isolated by the whole anti situation plus being cucked by the management on top of that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:27:48 2021 No.6710114 >>6710064 >isolated by the whole anti situation what?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:28:01 2021 No.6710121 >>6709515 Most of the weekly song rankings don't even track this type of songs, not in covers and not in originals. Can You Do the hololive? beyond the stage isn't listed by these channels and yet it has more than 12M views.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:28:37 2021 No.6710146 File: 22 KB, 408x197, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6707479 31k now

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:30:47 2021 No.6710211 Today is Rushia´s anniversary so I guess despite not having vnuma available she will take the top 1

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:34:02 2021 No.6710312 File: 439 KB, 1193x2260, E6ik5saVgAcVywb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Weekly

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:34:06 2021 No.6710314 >>6710146 I'm still surprised they're doing PowaPro and not the brand new Konami baseball game that just came out, since that also has a Koshien mode.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:35:45 2021 No.6710359 >>6710314 maybe permissions

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:37:10 2021 No.6710407 >>6710314 They're being sponsored for the one they're doing aren't they?

Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:38:11 2021 No.6710436

>>6709700
I think Coco's creativity is more applicable for the Management/business side of things. Asacoco, meme review, pitching for HoloEn and HoloES are things that someone in a suit would be endorsing in a board meeting so no wonder she applied for a managerial position initially when she went to Cover. Ame and Haachama's creativity are more applicable for the streaming/entertainment side.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:38:34 2021 No.6710447 >>6710407 No idea, if I was Konami I would want them to shill the brand new game instead of one that can be picked up used for 2000 yen.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:39:49 2021 No.6710538 >>6710314 They're specifically being sponsored for PowaPro.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:39:52 2021 No.6710546 Normally I would applaud Luna for taking the imitative and streaming at these hours but she is against some big numbers today. At least the electone is getting good numbers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:40:16 2021 No.6710578 >>6710211 Pekora only had 40k for her ani, so no.

Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:40:36 2021 No.6710593

>>6709700
>>6710064
>>6710114
Quick rundown based off what COCO has said and what's been observed.
>Management was getting antsy with how Coco would always skirt the line and find Loopholes. Coco herself said she would often find loopholes, exploit them, and management would say "Okay you got us, but please don't do that again".
>Then the Taiwan Yab happened
>Management, the cowards they were, feared the risks of antis spreading to the rest of Holomembers. Instead of working with Youtube to fast-track some sort of anti-spam measures for livestreams, they isolated her from many of the official programs and restricted her ability to collab (see, no Hologra appearances until graduation week)
>EN managers being massive cucks, ghosted Coco instead of being honest and saying "We're concerned at the moment about what Chinese Antis would do to the EN Branch". Fucking bastards. EN MANAGERS HATE
>Coco begins comparing herself to her coworkers and friends since she no longer had the freedom to try things out that she did previously. Rather than devolve into a number-fagging jealous whore, she decides that she'd sooner graduate. Anti-pressure and spam amplify ongoing conflicts over restrictions (That are in place due to management being overtly risk-averse after YT shadowbans and Capcom+Nintendo Copyright holocaust in 2020)

Ultimately, it was incompetent management that felt safety > risk and innovation, and Coco understood it, as Cover started getting approached for sponsored content after the success of the Currey Meshi ads. This, combined with the fact that she DOES care for those still in Hololive means she would never, ever, EVER burn her bridges with Cover, even if she definitely sounds like she had some grounds to despise the middle management that fucked her over.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:40:40 2021 No.6710596 >>6710407 I dont see the "includes paid promotion" thing

Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:41:20 2021 No.6710621

>>6710121
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eayY2KoKr4
This ranking is one of the most recent and popular about all time viewed hololive songs, it includes originals and covers.

Can You Do the hololive? Beyond the Stage has 12M views a cover of an original is not present.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:42:55 2021 No.6710675 >>6710312 Can someone fill me in jun channel live viewers avg. He's literally beating some of the world most popular twitch streamer in numbers while being a japanese in youtube.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:43:43 2021 No.6710698 >>6710621 Well the same channel placed Kanata's Ahoy in originals. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxJVOIXaIlk

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:43:58 2021 No.6710707 >>6710578 Rushia´s 2nd anniversary is a 3D live with guests https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE8gTiKBjA8&ab_channel=RushiaCh.%E6%BD%A4%E7%BE%BD%E3%82%8B%E3%81%97%E3%81%82 So yes, she´s going to take top 1 today unless something bigger shows up

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:45:13 2021 No.6710752 >>6710593 Yeah, the company is a numberfag at heart and chose to optimize to the most relevant number for them >income Makes sense too considering that’s what actually pays the wages.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:46:44 2021 No.6710798 >>6710675 Isn’t he their Pewds?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:47:16 2021 No.6710811 >>6710707 also Blue = Shion Red = Ayame Purple = Okayu Light blue = Pekora Yellow = Haachama

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:48:24 2021 No.6710843 >>6710596 >I dont see the "includes paid promotion" thing Draft's stream had it, last year the winners were added in the game as DLC characters, and they're also in the mobile game. Konami loves them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nthDsSv3fT8

Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:50:01 2021 No.6710897

>>6710593
>>6710752
True. I can see why coco cant help but still helping them despite all that. This past year was their one and only chance to get more sponsors. If coco was a bitch she could ruin them all like that Sio bitch from .LIVE. Thank god she cares a lot about the girls and seeing them as friends instead of just passing coworker

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:50:09 2021 No.6710902 >>6710593 ogey at least post kson's membership post to prove your dead rrat

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:50:27 2021 No.6710908 >>6710707 The first place will be Jun or a news channel.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:51:18 2021 No.6710938 >>6710798 That swedoid livestream numbers isn't something noteworthy compared to his sub numbers

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:52:16 2021 No.6710968 >>6710593 >ever, EVER burn her bridges with Cover She did literally that when she decided to leave, retard.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:52:20 2021 No.6710970 >>6710843 Konami the pachinko game maker? >niji plays pachinko Konami the one who forced graduated their top talent >niji graduated lulu Konami who by rumors are run by yakuza >niji rumored to be a black company Wow so rrats are true sometimes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:54:53 2021 No.6711045 >>6710843 then only the streams on niji ch are sponsored

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:55:07 2021 No.6711053 (you)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:56:23 2021 No.6711082 File: 444 KB, 1193x2260, E5-oovdVcAIKHeh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6710675 Korekore got this number a week before for the reference

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:57:11 2021 No.6711099 >>6710312 Is that the real Shohei Ohtani? Probably not since he would probably be much higher considering he is the biggest celebrity in Japan right now.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:57:21 2021 No.6711106 >>6710908 this is a vtuber board anon, we only care about chuubas numbers

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:57:32 2021 No.6711111 >>6711045 They're all sponsered, they have a deal with the agency.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:58:24 2021 No.6711134 >>6710970 Sort your "facts" already, is that Konami cotrolling them or Sony?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:59:06 2021 No.6711153 >>6710970 Kill yourself, you subhuman faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 02:59:28 2021 No.6711160 >>6710312 Feels like Nijisanji only charts when its baseball, 3D streams or company wide collabs on the main channel. They did get a pachinko buff last week though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:00:31 2021 No.6711190 >>6710698 Weird, guess that means IRyS' cover of AZKi's song will be under originals as well?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:01:01 2021 No.6711214 >>6711160 And water is wet.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:01:32 2021 No.6711231 >>6711160 Top 2-3 of Manjisanji usually can make the charts as well, playing Apex.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:01:44 2021 No.6711237 >>6711160 Hololive only charts when it's costume streams, 3D streams or collabs, same shit, retard.

Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:01:50 2021 No.6711241

>>6711134
At this point should we really care who controls who? They're already deep in chink money and are currently losing money/popularity to their competitor. I just don't know how their company could improve the popularity of their bottom barrel livers. Sure, their business model on debuting livers is cheap, but when you look at nijiEN's schedules, they're doing one stream a day without any salary.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:03:50 2021 No.6711300 >>6711241 You don't watch them, know the names of any of them, and you're not even N5. Stick with talking about hololive.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:04:51 2021 No.6711332 rename the thread to nijianti thread already. you fags don't even have hiyoko anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:05:55 2021 No.6711366 >>6711300 kek what are you so mad about? I'm just saying their company can't do shit to improve their livers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:08:25 2021 No.6711438 >>6711366 I'm not mad, I'm just telling you to talk about people you know about, not to speculate and shitpost about a group you clearly don't like or have any knowledge, you just look stupid.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:09:02 2021 No.6711452 >>6710359 Aren't they partnered with Konami?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:09:08 2021 No.6711456 >>6711332 They can't talk about Nijisanji outside of narrative posting now since they don't know stream numbers anymore, no numbers no facts, rename the thread into Nijisanji anti and delusion general

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:10:27 2021 No.6711496 >>6710968 cover didn't get any hate from graduating coco, at least not the huge amount that they deserve. and if anything cover burn it first by not helping and actually help anti by give them mod power.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:11:54 2021 No.6711525 >>6711456 Doesn't help that the day isn't done yet. Someone will go grab the Playboard numbers later. Until then we're just gonna be timelooping and spreading rrats.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:14:18 2021 No.6711609 >>6711456 there is no reason to make this thread anymore without hiyoko, the weekly thing that anon posts is garbage because of the real life streamers and youtubers. just nuke them, or make an anti thread already.

Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:14:34 2021 No.6711614

>>6711111
technically no, only the main channel is, but at the end of the day they will use the money to pay or invest in their chuuba so is the same.
To be honest all money from a sponsor streams goes to the company, maybe the chuubas get a better cut if the stream it on their channel, but the company decides what to do with it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:20:32 2021 No.6711788 If some of you get butthurt cause you can´t help but read the tribalshit comments then thats your problem, there are people here who wants to talk about chuubas numbers

Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:20:44 2021 No.6711793

>>6711438
>not to speculate and shitpost about a group
Do you even know which thread you're in right now? There's really no proof of numbers to show at the moment, but I've been observing numbers from both Holos and Nijis lately. I dont watch their streams, but only see the number of views in Holodex. They aren't as accurate per se, but some livers get below <200 views, JP ones are around 2-5k views. Higher compared to most indies yes, but I don't see them replacing niji's old guards if they ever graduate.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:21:09 2021 No.6711812 >>6711241 >I just don't know how their company could improve the popularity of their bottom barrel livers. Maybe they should start by not recruiting so many in the first place, and let their chuubas cycle out first before adding more.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:23:59 2021 No.6711901 >>6711793 >I dont watch their streams Yeah, I can tell. The issue is not the numberfagging, is your retarded rrat post early. Don't try to backpedal with >that's not me. Last (you).

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:24:02 2021 No.6711902 >>6711237 We're on the numbers thread, don't take it personally. If you wanna tribal fag, go somewhere else.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:26:16 2021 No.6711965 File: 43 KB, 500x332, AF461E75-1931-44AB-89EB-ECF951DE60C3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6711241 >they're doing one stream a day without any salary. This will NEVER cease to be funny

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:27:14 2021 No.6711997 >>6711902 >Feels like niji only charsts when it's x, y and z >Well hololive is the same >"Don't tribal fag!" What?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:31:38 2021 No.6712122 Can't believe that the only actually talented member of Hololive left them and the remaining are worse than Korekore and Jun

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:32:05 2021 No.6712144 >>6711609 Jesas don't take NijEN's lackluster numbers to heart, I'm sure they'll do better when there's 12 of them by the end of the year.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:34:55 2021 No.6712252 File: 954 KB, 1461x828, E232D583-0C59-485D-BCD3-CF5166AE9C1B.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Subaru gambled and made mad bucks on subaduck merch So much management got amazed by it https://youtu.be/qJx5vEr7BOY

Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:35:32 2021 No.6712278

>>6711609
But what will number obsessed schizos do with their life then? They need to post their schizo statistics and do their schizo calculations so people could thank them and make them feel needed. Are you telling them to kill themselves or something?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:36:56 2021 No.6712327 >>6712144 yeah, we know you hate nijiniggers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:39:43 2021 No.6712426 >>6711237 >>6711997 >tell obvious lies >cry when called out Is this the legendary nijicope?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:40:33 2021 No.6712465 File: 592 KB, 825x1228, 1172159B-70EB-4CFD-8F54-B83E8D15D75A.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6712278 Are you ok mate? You seem upset. Here, have a cute cats hark to brighten your day with cuteness and big numbers

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:41:46 2021 No.6712506 >>6711332 >>6711456 >>6711609 >>6712327 >come into numbers thread >get offended when niggersanji gets btfo

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:41:52 2021 No.6712512 >>6712426 >niji does ok numbers >well hololive is better Is this the legendary holofag mount complex?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:43:21 2021 No.6712551 >>6712512 >hololive charts 90% of the time >nijisanji only charts during big events and Kuzuha/kanae apex >somehow pointing this out offends you

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:43:26 2021 No.6712556 >>6712506 nijianti thread...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:43:34 2021 No.6712562 >>6712465 Nope I just was the same worthless being as them several years ago. But then I've learnt to enjoy stuff without obsessing over numbers and pretending to be vtuber's manager and life got much better.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:44:05 2021 No.6712573 >>6712252 Now I really want a nousagi version

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:44:44 2021 No.6712594 >>6712551 Hololive is not going to chart 90% of the time anymore with this current ranking, I don't see any of the holos being in the first place when they're against real life youtubers and streamers.

Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:44:52 2021 No.6712603
File: 53 KB, 1208x828, kore.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Since we share this thread with regular streamers now, let's talk about Kore's numbers. He makes nijishits and holobronies seem like insignificant ants. Imagine having 100% of your subs watching your streams. Gura and her dead subs btfo out of the stratosphere.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:45:13 2021 No.6712610 >>6712327 Nijisanji doesn't pay their employees

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:45:22 2021 No.6712614 >>6712556 You wanna cry about it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:46:13 2021 No.6712644 >>6712610 sc and merch is their salary.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:46:52 2021 No.6712660 >>6712603 Literally who?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:47:15 2021 No.6712673 >>6712603 What does this guy do?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:47:36 2021 No.6712684 >>6712556 If you don't like it you're free to fuck off, or better yet rage and seethe in this thread because I can never get enough of nijiseethe in the morning

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:48:28 2021 No.6712716 >>6712660 Dramatuber. Basically narukamishit but the real life version and actually successiful.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:48:46 2021 No.6712731 >>6712644 Hololive members also have those AND they actually get paid by their employer.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:49:53 2021 No.6712774 File: 25 KB, 500x460, i-deliberatley-entered-a-thread-full-of-things-that-i-28308860.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6712562

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:50:07 2021 No.6712782 >>6712731 Ssshhh dont tell them or cover wouldnt be a black company anymore

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:50:15 2021 No.6712787 >>6712660 The Japanese Ethan Ralph

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:50:20 2021 No.6712792 Is Vnuma fucking dead for good?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:51:09 2021 No.6712816 >>6712716 Damn. Nips love 'em drama huh

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:51:13 2021 No.6712820 >>6712792 seems so

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:52:01 2021 No.6712850 >>6712774 Kinda weird that your pic also have text when you're not able to read it properly.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:52:01 2021 No.6712851 >>6712506 >come into numbers thread >see rratposting and offtopic screeching instead of fucking numbers

Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:53:19 2021 No.6712886

>>6712731
They get a minimun wage, don't they? It was just a small amount just for the sake of being actually hired as an "employee". I don't know why you newfags think that they're earning a lot from that, when all the holos said already that what makes them money is the sc.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:53:57 2021 No.6712906 >>6712851 The numbers are gone and they aren't coming back!!!! We could use Holostats but half the fun of these threads is dunking on ass blasted Nijiniggers.

Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:54:52 2021 No.6712939
File: 447 KB, 626x885, CC5B3D05-80F6-45C3-9423-9F680FBDCDDD.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>6712562
>then I've learnt to enjoy stuff without obsessing over numbers
You surely seem to have replaced with
>obsessing about obsessing over numbers
Ironically that just increased your presence in this thread.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:55:45 2021 No.6712966 >>6712886 So? Even paying them 10 yen a year would be more than NOTHING which is what Niji pays their employees.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:59:07 2021 No.6713061 >>6712886 show me the stream where they say most of their income comes from SC

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:59:57 2021 No.6713085 >>6712966 Isn't that's the point? Holos get a salary because they're actually employees, niji doesn't get a salary because they're just contract bound.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 03:59:59 2021 No.6713089 File: 46 KB, 600x603, 771DB5A4-06BF-41D4-8573-85690519B09D.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6712966 Think about it: they could DOUBLE their salary working as maidos in this very board

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 04:01:11 2021 No.6713117 >>6712906 How will holobronies survive without their falseflagging and rent free now? Will the itoddler ITT continue to ban evade and make more tribal threads?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 04:01:53 2021 No.6713132 >>6712886 Even if so, are you aware how much is minimum wage in Japan? It is enough for living a decent life, which some of nijis can't even afford without working an actual job.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 04:02:18 2021 No.6713141 >>6701287 Is that real? Apex for the entire week? Can't be...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 04:02:23 2021 No.6713143 >>6713061 Just pick any old Coco vod.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 04:04:34 2021 No.6713215 >>6713143 so only Coco and Rushia, good to know you were just cherry picking

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 04:05:26 2021 No.6713245 >>6712886 >>6713132 Kanata said she was earning 20000 yen (200 bucks) before being monetized, so it's obviously a lot less than the minimun wage.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 04:06:28 2021 No.6713271 >>6713245 Link?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 04:06:54 2021 No.6713284 >>6713117 You seem buttblasted, are those nijichinkji accusations growing too much to bear?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 04:08:58 2021 No.6713348 >>6713215 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpw7b1qV3qw

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 04:10:00 2021 No.6713378 >>6713271 meant for >>6713348

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 04:10:05 2021 No.6713380 Welp, we needed a new thread anyway, tribalfags do your work

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 04:18:35 2021 No.6713646 >>6713380 This thread will last for some 5 more hours

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 04:27:52 2021 No.6713895 Damn, it's always super funny when Nijiniggers get assblasted in /numbers/ of all places.

Anonymous Sun Jul 18 04:39:18 2021 No.6714202

>>6713348
>>6713378
Just saw it. Considering she’s selling merch in that stream and the cost comes out of their paychecks the 200 bucks must be the salary minus merch cost.

Happened to Lamy too, except in her case she went all in and her wage that month would be negative

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 05:03:32 2021 No.6714818 File: 276 KB, 1086x688, 1B5DEB1F-B59B-42B5-A7EE-9C2BB1D856D9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] IRyS: 500k before the end of the day?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 05:06:06 2021 No.6714880 Wait niji don't get paid for streaming? Jesus, i feel even more sad for nijiid.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 05:10:05 2021 No.6714976 >>6714880 >It's just parttime jobs, streaming is for fun Is what nijiniggers would say. Idk about how much money they make under niji but even Mito, one of their top livers, was still worried about her income to do it full time. So yeah..

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 05:13:35 2021 No.6715043 >>6714976 At least (I assume) Nijisanji pays a good health insurance for them, in case they fall to some sudden medical need

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 05:14:57 2021 No.6715077 >>6715043 AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 05:17:17 2021 No.6715125 >>6712594 Holy cope. We're talking about vtuber numbers here faggot. Do we need to remind you the 491k to humble you down?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 05:20:00 2021 No.6715178 >>6714880 >>6714976 Stop acting like 200 bucks is any money at all. Hololive is pretty much doing it for free as well. It's not a real job, so they don't even get minimum wage.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 05:23:41 2021 No.6715264 File: 79 KB, 613x606, F19C058E-5C2A-4FA2-AEE1-41F3AF9CB59E.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6715178 >pretty much doing it for free That’s not what “for free” means

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 05:27:14 2021 No.6715350 >>6715043 Kek

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 05:27:52 2021 No.6715369 >>6715264 Indeed, doing it for free like a janny would mean that they wouldn't even get sc, merch or sponsorships deals, so fuck off with your meme stupid itoddler.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 05:28:28 2021 No.6715383 >>6715178 It's nothing if you're already huge but if you're someone like on the level of black shiba, every little bit helps. And you don't have to beg from your viewers for your pay rent cause that'd be embarrassing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 05:31:12 2021 No.6715450 >>6715383 $200 isn't enough to pay anyone's rent.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 05:33:05 2021 No.6715499 >>6715043 You can't be this naïve

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 05:37:04 2021 No.6715588 If the 20k yen salary is true, that salary + youtube revenue discounting membership, scs and merch is enough for the ids to survive without other work. I pay almost the same amount to my labours too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 05:38:59 2021 No.6715634 >>6715043 I really doubt they'd have so many livers if this were the case.

Anonymous Sun Jul 18 05:45:57 2021 No.6715788

>>6715450
>$200 is still better than $0
>$200+SC is still better than $0+SC
What they're trying to say is as a big corpo, the least they could do is to pay a salary per hour or any monthly salary for their time & performance than pay none at all. Sure, it's better than being an indie and you're provided with a free model and opportunities that you don't get as an indie like 3D debuts or MVs but it's still gonna be a long way till that. The money helps. Look at how much streams NijiEN is doing in a week, and how they all had to rely on superchats and streamlabs as their main source of revenue.

Anonymous Sun Jul 18 05:50:47 2021 No.6715896

>>6715788
>superchats
You don't even watch Niji, the Nijisanji culture is to turn off superchats and usually only have it on for special occasions. They're really doing it for the love of vtubing and aren't in it for the money, compared to holos who monetize every single stream they can.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 05:52:30 2021 No.6715939 >>6715896 >they do it for free >for the love of vtubing That made it even sadder. Please stop “defending” it, you are making it look even worse

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 06:02:56 2021 No.6716153 >>6715896 >they work for the enikara without compensation because they love doing it! Black company? Black company

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 06:06:34 2021 No.6716237 >>6711082 I didn't know YOASOBI did live streams.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 06:08:33 2021 No.6716291 >>6715939 >>6716153 Stop strawmanning, Nijisanji even gives them the option to Yell so they get extra money from voice packs that the company doesn't see a cent of. Not everything is about money and not every company is as greedy as Hololive.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 06:10:22 2021 No.6716330 Seriously people are defending niji for not paying their livers salary? Stop being a corporate shill and defend shitty greedy corporate practices. I shit on cover because some of them are clearly overwork like marine and aqua now.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 06:12:56 2021 No.6716388 >>6716330 >I shit on cover because some of them are clearly overwork like marine and aqua now. Thing is, their managers tell them not to overwork themselves, but these girls are almost retarded, which is cute, so they get away with it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 06:15:51 2021 No.6716443 Nijisanji may not pay a salary but at least (I assume) they don't give any preferential treatment for merch and sponsorship. Even the smallest ones get the same access to them and the same level of highlight in the main channel

Anonymous Sun Jul 18 06:18:40 2021 No.6716484

Nijisanji EN will never be successful, Sorry if people don't want to hear this but the market is completely owned by Holo, The IRyS sub/debut difference should be enough.
They should just focus on the JP branch or China where most of the success comes from because they have no chance of doing what Holo has done.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 06:20:55 2021 No.6716532 File: 64 KB, 834x476, 1611069427826.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6716388 Like this, huh

Anonymous Sun Jul 18 06:21:33 2021 No.6716544

>>6716443
You are talking about hololive there buddy. They have well balanced distributions of sponsors and events. Even low tier like Aki participate and got quite a few of product collabs. Unless the sponsors specified which talent they want to use (example Red Bull), cover will ask the talents if they wants to take it or nah. Niji might provide their talents with a booth but everything else is the same as other chuuba including holo

Anonymous Sun Jul 18 06:28:15 2021 No.6716681

>>6716388
This is the problem with chuubas, they let corporation get advantages of them, same goes to nijiliver. They are pretty much celebs and they should have lawyers to negotiate better contract once their original contract expires. This is the internet age, it is not hard to find someone's roommate, just look at coco lol.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 06:28:17 2021 No.6716682 >>6716484 Given how many missteps hololive has made in the past year they won't own it for long. Especially if they keep scaring away talented indies with creative restrictions.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 06:30:18 2021 No.6716712 >>6716682 "creative restrictions" not this fucking meme again.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 06:34:19 2021 No.6716779 File: 1.29 MB, 1216x814, schedule.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >I-Iofi She doesn't really think strategically at all, does she?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 06:35:06 2021 No.6716789 >>6716237 It was a one off, free youtube concert.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 06:48:34 2021 No.6717018 > Theatre by obvious falseflagger and holobronies

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 07:15:41 2021 No.6717486 File: 404 KB, 920x829, 36383538393.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Bad day for holokeks

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 07:17:09 2021 No.6717517 >>6717486 You really feel like doing this on a day where Rushia is having a 3d live? Really nijikek?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 07:18:39 2021 No.6717541 >>6717486 >>6717517 >all me btw

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 07:18:48 2021 No.6717548 >>6712939 Except I only visit these threads like several times a week to take pity of you guys.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 07:19:17 2021 No.6717556 arent holoshit "lives" just premieres now?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 07:23:51 2021 No.6717631 File: 276 KB, 498x399, laughing-chama.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6717548 >only >several times a week

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 07:31:57 2021 No.6717788 File: 21 KB, 345x188, firefox_uwZoEnycjj.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6717486 does this not have the Deron stream? I recorded a peal of 35k for that

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 07:34:10 2021 No.6717830 >>6717788 It's just currently live numbers, an absolutely retarded metric which is why nobody uses them except for tribalniggers looking to start shit

Anonymous Sun Jul 18 07:34:50 2021 No.6717847

>>6716484
I don't know about their Chinese branch but Nijisanji JP doesn't do well either. They're literally nothing without Kuzuha, that's not how the company should be, when Holo has like 20 people who are actually above Kuzuha, Cover can lose 10 of them and the company will still be doing fine while it'll be over for Nijisanji if they lose that one top guy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 07:39:02 2021 No.6717938 >>6716779 Huh, so Towa kicked that Niji out of her team and replaced her with Met? Guess 774 being above Niji is real after all, the numbers don't show it but there must be something going on behind the scene.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 07:43:28 2021 No.6718022 File: 104 KB, 619x505, 204050.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] holobros...;(

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 07:46:22 2021 No.6718092 >>6718022 Post it again in 15 minutes, I dare you

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 07:53:19 2021 No.6718241 >>6717548 obsessed

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 07:55:48 2021 No.6718298 >>6718022 Rushia will mogged them for sure, including yesterday's baseball stream

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 07:57:39 2021 No.6718338 Whatever happened to the list of biggest streams for the day? Superchats is....not particularly interesting.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 07:59:07 2021 No.6718368 File: 308 KB, 627x932, 555s.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6718092 Ok.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 08:01:34 2021 No.6718422 Matsuri should just stop apex already.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 08:05:58 2021 No.6718534 File: 1.30 MB, 1164x763, Russia.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6718368

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 08:06:31 2021 No.6718552 who are these tribalist nigger that's shitting up the thread?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 08:06:41 2021 No.6718558 File: 18 KB, 394x148, K1M0YUpmrB.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6718368 Oh no no no nijikek?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 08:07:36 2021 No.6718578 >>6718558 Oh no nijibros not looking good

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 08:09:26 2021 No.6718669 >>6718552 This is what happened when Vnuma died and chartanon isnt present

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 08:09:33 2021 No.6718673 >>6718534 >>6718558 Nijishit, destroyed in less than a minute

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 08:09:35 2021 No.6718674 >haachama RUSHIA JUST FUCKING WON THE DAY

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 08:10:01 2021 No.6718690 63k and counting holy shit

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 08:10:12 2021 No.6718700 >>6718669 chartanon maybe got sick of thse niggers shitting up the thread. It was so comfy few threads ago.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 08:11:12 2021 No.6718732 >>6718700 Nah Vnuma killed itself and all discussion of numbers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 08:11:17 2021 No.6718735 >>6718669 >>6718700 Nah, thread is at page 10, posting anything now would be a waste.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 08:11:58 2021 No.6718760 >>6718732 >>6718700 Sigh... vnuma doko??????

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 08:12:07 2021 No.6718767 File: 3 KB, 109x125, marikneel.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] S-shioncha too?!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 08:12:26 2021 No.6718788 >secret base Shion is retiring...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 08:12:28 2021 No.6718794 When is Cover's financial report going to be released? I wanna see them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 08:13:10 2021 No.6718819 File: 507 KB, 1125x2063, jNIlYge.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] When 130k?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 08:14:19 2021 No.6718862 File: 539 KB, 1211x856, Screenshot - 2021-07-18 , 13_13_28.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 75k and rising

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 08:14:36 2021 No.6718871 >>6718819 They already reached 139k during Marine's live

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 08:14:40 2021 No.6718875 >>6718794 It's a privately held company. They might release some stuff but it's going to be light on details.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 08:15:00 2021 No.6718885 >almost 80k Rushia is powerful

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 18 08:15:11 2021 No.6718893 >nijikeks had to move goalpost already lmao

Reply to thread

Name
E-mail
Subject
Comment
Action

Advanced search
Text to find
Subject [?]Search by post subject. Leave empty for any.
Username [?]Search for user name. Leave empty for any user name.
Tripcode [?]Search for tripcode. Leave empty for any.
Email [?]Search by email. Leave empty for any.
Filename [?]Search by image filename. Leave empty for any.
From Date [?]Enter what date to start searching from. Format is YYYY-MM-DD
To Date [?]Enter what date to start searching until. Format is YYYY-MM-DD
Image hash
Search in	All Posts OPs Only
Deleted posts	Show all posts Show only deleted posts Only show non-deleted posts
Internal posts	Show all posts Show only internal posts Show only archived posts
Order	New posts first Old posts first
Capcode	All Posts Only by Users Only by Mods Only by Admins Only by Developers
Results	Posts Threads
Action	[ Simple ]

/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers