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Do you think parasocial vtuber fans are a problem?

>> No.23720598

>>23720552
No Reddit/Twitterbro

>> No.23720614

>>23720552
kill yourself phoneposting twitterfag

>> No.23720615

>>23720552
I think Westoids are a problem.

>> No.23720636

parasocial fans are not an issue exclusive to vtubers

>> No.23720647

>>23720552
Pander to extremely lonely individuals who see a lot more of you than you do of them as your business model and expect the consequences of doing such. That's all.

>> No.23720732

>>23720552
Somebody who sticks around despite knowing she has a boyfriend is not the kind of parasocial fan you find here and I'd argue that to still be parasocial after that requires a type of parasocial connection that is more alien and autistic than the one you find here.

tl;dr go back

>> No.23720807

>>23720552
like vox's fans? yes, those fujos deserve the rope.

>> No.23720824

>>23720552
Yes, they all pretend like they're her boyfriend, while her boyfriend clearly is me.

>> No.23720876

>>23720732
It's only excessive when it becomes illegal. I'd say most parasocials who accept things like boyfriends are just people who've had enough things go wrong in life that they've become overly familiar with someone that consistently gives them positive attention, even though they've forgotten they're a part of an audience while doing so. They're not the same as people who go out of their way to harass the chuuba in whichever way they can.

>> No.23720885

>>23720552
No, but vtubers with bfs are

>> No.23720899

>>23720552
no but vtubers like that are

>> No.23720905

>>23720552
no kys then go back

>> No.23720932

nah, I think you should be single or divorced if you even want to be a vtuber. A man who gives money to a taken women will always know that his money isn't going to support his oshi 100% and that is the true cucked experience

>> No.23720977

>>23720647
This. Vtuber fans are the lowest form.

>> No.23721008

>>23720552
They're complaints are valid if you're a vtuber that does GFE but exploits them and lies to them about your relationship status like what happened with Rushia.
You can't have your cake and eat it too.
The vtuber needs to be just as menhera as the audience when it comes to parasocial relationship.

>> No.23721057

yet the twitch meta is to do react to content for hours on end and thats ok for people to watch? Dont the 70k people watching xqc doing half assed react to streams have friends for them to share yt videos or watch master chef with?

>> No.23721060

Honestly at this point I want my Oshi to have a boyfriend girlfriend or whatever, she is clearly suffering from loneliness and i just want her to be happy. She just deserve it

>> No.23721086

>>23721008
>puts her fans before her career and proves without a doubt she was single
Rushia was a legend.

>> No.23721114

>>23720614
>>23720905
Oh nyooo~, did OP just touched a nerve?

>> No.23721130

She's retarded for cultivating that kind of audience and not blocking them immediately.
He's a retarded cuck whose money isn't going to condoms but baby supplies.

>> No.23721142

>>23721086
Yeah she did, after the gay alien she was lusting over rejected her publicly

>> No.23721148

Not at all, if you're okay with taking their money you better be okay with taking their mentally ill behaviour, otherwise you're in the wrong business

>> No.23721181

>>23721142
Cope, he was just protecting his career.

>> No.23721266

>>23720932
>Be single
>be a vtuber
>find love while being a vtuber
>3million people: No, you can't be taken!
okay chump

>> No.23721305

>>23721266
No one cares about these irrelevant, talentless grifters but with hololive all that matters is it stays completely seperate from their persona.

>> No.23722035

>>23720977
nah even lower than a vtuber fan is the vtuber themselves

>> No.23722146

>>23722035
Yet the vtuber is the one who is smart enough to manipulate lonely people into giving them money. Smart people don't spend money on E girls or streamers in general.

>> No.23722219

>>23720552
>imagine posting the same thread twice

>> No.23722224

>>23721086
She didn’t prove shit, retard. She tried having her cake and eating it too, and it blew up in her face

>> No.23722516

>>23722146
most vtubers are about as clever as a prostitute who sucks off homeless guys for $10 and then goes to a support group for victims of sexual assualt and claims one of the "parasocial" homeless creeps keep hanging around outside her apartment building.

>> No.23722579

Fuck western whores, >we thought one of Shadow’s mods were getting too parasocial with her so >we dmed her and she told him to shut up and he went on a huge menhera meltdown and it was hilarious. Western whores would never.

>> No.23722645

I have no clue if parasocial is always a bad thing or not. I've seen people make a mess of chat, twitter and threads for emotional reasons, or simply because of someone not playing a game a certain way. So there are problematic and non-problematic viewers in all camps.

>> No.23722681

>>23722224
then why am i more in love with her than ever before you homosexual ape?

>> No.23722699

yes

>> No.23722777

>>23722681
Because you're mentally ill.

>> No.23722857

>>23720552
A parasocial fan would have dropped her the moment he found out she had a boyfriend. Guy in the pic is just a cuck in denial.

>> No.23723133

>>23720552
Yes. Vtubers and their fans are a problem. Then again when you get more to the western/indie side the vtubers are more like super-viewers, with tons of parasocial relationships and creepy super-fan behaviors. In the end monetizing socially manipulative interactions was a bad idea, whether it is streaming or vtubing specifically.

>> No.23723146

>>23720552
what kind of a question is that? obviously yes.

>> No.23723284

>>23720552
Vtubers encouraging unhealthy parasocial relationships is a bigger problem.

>> No.23723379

>>23721057
?????

>> No.23723417

>>23720552
Stop posting this

>> No.23723484

>>23722224
>She didn’t prove shit, retard.
She literally sent info disproving the main rrat at the time to a dramatuber and blew up her career doing it

>> No.23723568

>>23720598
>>23720614
wow why so angry unicorn?

>> No.23723984

>>23722645
A parasocial relationship is the illusion of intimacy, friendship, and/or identification with a media personality of some kind experienced by members of an audience. That's all. That can be positive, that can be negative. The basis of being a streamer is centered around building this parasocial relationship with the viewer in the form of friendship, despite how many streamers keep parroting that they're "not your friend" and "parasocial bad", etc etc. Pretty much everyone feels some form of a parasocial interaction with media personalities because that's just human nature, we assume things about people based on what information we hear and grow attached to people we hear things we like about often. It's why "celebrities" even exist and why anyone even gives a shit about their personal lives at all. It's why brands try to be "relatable" nowadays.
Parasocial doesn't imply obsessive on its own. It doesn't imply romantic feelings on its own.

>> No.23724046

>>23720552
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA just fucking block the dude I swear every 3 view does this ''exposing my parasocials'' shit, IS IT FREE FOLLOWEERS FROM A SLAY QUEEN MOMENT? STFUUUU BITcH YOU cAN SOLVE IT WITH ONE BUTTON

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>>23720552
I don't see the problem.

>> No.23724234

>>23723984
that's not even close to what parasocial means

>> No.23724248

>>23724234
Explain what you believe it means then

>> No.23724290

>>23724046
They can't get attention if they just block them.

>> No.23724315

>>23724234
That is literally what it means. Why would you draw the line between Celebrity Worship and vTuber Worship? It's not just "I want to fuck her"

>> No.23725073

>>23724248
It's a term to describe people suffering severe delusions about their relationships with other humans. Example, you literally think you are dating <movie actress> and you go around telling people about how you are dating her even though you've never met her.
It's really obvious when someone thinks like that and it's also clearly insane.
Liking an entertainer on the other hand is totally normal and feeling some kind of human connection with another person is not a condition.

>>23724315
vtubers are not real is where I draw the line

>> No.23725404

>>23721060
Based cuckbeat

>> No.23726164

>>23720552
no? i think parasociality is the entire point of this medium. it's literally the only thing that makes this stand out from prerecorded forms of content.

>> No.23726516

>>23725073
>Example, you literally think you are dating <movie actress> and you go around telling people about how you are dating her even though you've never met her.
I've daydreamed a lot about how I'd love to be doing something with my oshi as I do something personal or something I find cool. And I've even convinced myself that there was a chance in hell I could get together with her. But I've never actually deluded myself into thinking it was a real event.

>> No.23726609

>>23725073
nta but no, that's the more extreme expression of it that is trending online in the last few years, the actual psychological definition is a lot more neutral in itsself, similar to what the other anion described

>> No.23726805

>>23725073
No that's not the definition. It was first used to explain how television viewers would feel that they know the people they're watching.

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>>23720552
>Hi Hanako, not long ago your boyfriend mentioned to me on Twitter that you two are getting married yet you haven't said anything yet which is worrying me because it's just your boyfriend saying this and not you two, I'm concerned that your boyfriend is telling lies and manipulate

>> No.23727455

>>23720552
Parasocial vtuber is the real problem

>> No.23727555

>>23720552
>making fun of her fans on public
2view forever?
2view forever!

>> No.23727639

>literally who
>"the people who spend all their money on this gay industry are the problem"
I agree all the "incels" would be better off just visiting a hooker and dispensing of all these nasty whores who view them as subhuman while coveting their wealth.

>> No.23727695

>>23720614
Based

>> No.23727764

>>23722516
The top paid ones are basically the same as whores like amber heard.
>THIS RICH NERD MOLESTED ME WITH HIS MONEY, WHAT A CREEP
Become a housewife if you want money for doing the bare minimum, otherwise shut up and work like everyone else.

>> No.23729216

>>23723568
Show the angry on those comments Redditor

>> No.23730100

>>23727764
>bare minimum housewife
I'm sorry you didn't have a better mom anon

>> No.23731058

>>23720552
No, the goal is to gaslight your oshi into becoming yours. No shame in it whatsoever.

>> No.23731322

>>23720552
I think entertainers with zero PR sense are a problem.

>> No.23731560

>>23720552
no

>> No.23731620

>>23731322
Couldn't agree more.
The vtuber in the OP is a dope for giving that person more attention than any regular fan.

>> No.23731838

>>23720552
no hanako is a bitch

>> No.23732077

>>23720552
>Vtuber openly admits having a bf
>Vtuber is now marrying the said bf
Retard cuck totally didn't see this coming amiright... How fucking brain-damaged can a person be. And these faggots really keep on saying vtubers having a bf should be a norm, You're just so mentally incapable of foresight that something as obvious as it ending up in your oshi getting pregnant baffles you.

>> No.23732170

Vtubers are all mentally fucked anyways. They're constantly being gaslighted by their "community". There's people who will applaud every action they take, no matter how retarded it is. Then there's people who will complain about every little thing they do or not do.

>> No.23732210

>>23732077
what are you even trying to say?

>> No.23732234

vtubers without parasocial fans is like an anime convention without nerds/weebs. it's just impossible to avoid them. besides, more often than not they're the ones spending actual money on what they like

in other words, they're the ones that keep the show running. i don't think they're the problem at all, but it's true they can be annoying

>> No.23732332

>>23732210
That i fucked your mom and sister last night, anon. Say hello to your 2 new relatives in 12 months.

>> No.23732359

This has nothing to do with "parasocial", that user has mental issues that would annoy the streamer regardless about a boyfriend or not. If it isn't about her husband, that user would do some other insane behavior that annoys the vtuber and would get a tweet about supposedly problematic behaviors in the community. It's not a community thing or a vtuber encouraged thing, its a few individuals that will pop anywhere with mental issues and annoy people someway or another.

>> No.23732625

>>23732077
anon... do you think that people who are okay with vtubers having boyfriends have the expectation that they'll break up, and don't want them to get married? even with my expectations as low as they are; unicorns still find ways to disappoint me.

>> No.23732737

She's not really bothered by it. It's more clout bait like the male vtuber posting that totally real conversation with that cartoonish feminazi.
People like him are in every community that revolves around a woman. It's always safe to bonk these social retards because it's such a simple calculation of them crossing the threshold of being more trouble than they're worth because they're usually not actually a whale. Just someone that demands way too much attention for being a paid sub and throwing $5 donos every once in a while. Attention that could be used to cultivate some less deranged fans.

>> No.23732805

>>23720552
>be 2 view
>your biggest fan is cringe
>publicly humiliate and ridicule him

>> No.23732826

The right dosage of parasocial is what makes livestreaming, whether it be vtuber or fleshtubers, viable. It's like adding some spice to your dish, just don't overdo it.

>> No.23733545

If they are what the fuck do you plan on doing about it? Maybe vtubing just attracts weird people by its nature. Dont really know why you would become an eceleb in this niche if you cant ignore the occasional schizo

>> No.23734454

>>23720552
No they are just part of the package when you want to be a female vtuber. The problem is vtubers that think they are above their viewers and tell them to get a life while still begging for money and attention with a loli avatar.

>> No.23734879

>>23723484
Except it didn't disprove the affair at all. She just outed herself as even more of a menhera and lost her job over it.
Then gay alien dropped her schizo ass.
What a glorious selfown.

>> No.23735482

>>23732826
To some extent this is true but it might also cause legislative actions to be taken in some regions if it starts leading to problems. I'm not really talking about obsessive fans creeping out streamers. Instead obsessive fans give more money than they can afford to be noticed by streamers. It might take a long time but I can imagine a future where this starts turning sour like online gambling and loot boxes is now.

>> No.23735595

>>23720552
fuck off twatnigger

>> No.23736120

>>23722146
That doesn't make you "higher"

>> No.23738455

>>23720977
Nah. The lowest form are people who go on websites about vtubers even though they don't like them.

>> No.23738561

>>23721086
>proves without a doubt
she did not prove anything retard

>> No.23739308

>>23720552
No literally the only fags that have a issue with it are trying to usurp the fucking hobby from the japanese. these individuals hate GFE they hate japanese culture as a whole but they really hate japanese idol culture with extra passion. Those are the faggots who think western anime streamers are cool. "Trash taste is based bro" "omg Vshojo is the best because they hate us lets still donate to them based" You are the rote you are the poison in the water. You are the plague you faggots should leave and don't forgot to rope yourself after the door hits your ass on the way out you fucking normie faggots. How many JP Vtuber streamers have to indirectly say it before you get it we are more valuable to them then your woke grey nigger ass is.

>> No.23739341

>>23720552
Society would run a lot more smoothly if vtubers married their fans. We have the technology to support a lifestyle of blissful matrimony between vtubers and all of their fans. They can live together with thousands of spouses in a virtual home with equal access.

>> No.23739376

This the incel thread?

>> No.23739402

If there was a company that went on and on about the things it wasn't willing to do for the customers and then went on to blame them for wanting those things then I would not buy products from that company.

>> No.23739471

>>23720552
not really, entitled vtubers can go cut themselves, but seriously that retard should just stop watching her since she can't give him the gfe he wants

>> No.23739510

>>23739308
Cope

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>>23739510

>> No.23740820

I've sworn off the flesh, only the digital afterglow lights the embers to my heart. With every laugh I fall more in love with the pixels dancing across my screen. No one else could share our passion extending through the ether plane. My soul is full and balls empty.

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