/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>https://piyo.chats.ninja/ (RIP)
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

>>9639428
Looks like Luto will probably make this for a third day in a row, is she ever going to stop streaming?

>>9639531
since you seem knowledgable about ID, where does non vtuber ID streamers usually stream? how do they compare to holoID CCV? it's hilarious if holo ID really is among the biggest streamers in that entire country.

home sweet home

>>9639602
What does this have to do with NijiJP again? I'm saying maybe the ID viewerbase isn't worth pursuing if even the most locally popular vtubers there aren't breaking 1k often.

> All it takes is one chuuba playing a certain MOBA there to get 5-10k CCV purely from indos.
You gotta be more specific than that. Any examples?

>>9639695
not him, but i guess this guy is top dog of their corp (538K subscribers)
https://www.youtube.com/c/AndiAdinataChannel/videos
and he is on Anya's level
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC727SQYUvx5pDDGQpTICNWg/videos

>>9639695
I'm not an expert on ID at all.
All I know is, Maha5's numbers are not impressive even for ID vtuber standards (you can argue that HoloID is boosted by non-ID viewers) and that Indogs are extremely passionate about their country. Their badminton fans are fucking insane and worship their players, and they go schizo nationalistic super easily.
They literally hold the record of the most watched chess stream in history and it was a stomp between a pro and a shameless cheat. I think ID streamers/youtubers pull huge numbers, just not vtubers.

https://www.chess.com/news/view/most-watched-chess-stream-in-history-dewa-kipas

HoloEN rejects? HoloEN rejects!

Pekora
44k

While everyone else in Nijisanji's in the Moba tournament, Toko's just laughing at that side-scrolling horror game and still getting 10k.

Kuzuha starts streaming and Ars drops from 20k to 10k in minutes. Maimoto from 5k to 3k.
Nice peaks at least.

>24,198 watching nowStarted streaming 10 minutes ago
Enter, King

>>9639872
Leeching Suisei again i see, cute outfit

>>9639729
Mobile legends is popular in Indonesia. If Apex is the top game in Japan, then ML is for ID or surrounding SEA nations. Although the game attracts toxic fanbases.

>>9639940
>Enter, King
?>>9639860

Streams over 10k on live-ranking so far. Missing the following streams
>Council meeting: 31k, would be #3
>Ina anniversary: 18k, would be #7

Very strong day for Nijis nonetheless, sasuga Tanned Demiurge!

>>9640000
After yesterday's almost no-show from Niji, this is much better.

>>9639838
>My region
They were not kidding about SEAniggers shitting this thread and board, it seems

>>9640000
>Gwelu sandwiched Pekora
what a day!

>>9639994
Kuzuha is likely going to beat 44k today.
Anyone who follows his numbers know he's crossing 40k for sure and 4k is nothing if he makes the finals.

>>9639926
Aren't Ars and Maimoto pretty popular nijis? it seems like they'd have been able to sustain their own audience if they were on a different team

>>9640052
They'll get the numbers they're getting right now.
Maimoto 3k and Ars 10k.

Also Kuzuha is at 39k at the start of the match and it's higher than Gwelu's "main" POV of 31k. This guy is actually arguably more popular than the entire company...

>Top current streaming according to live-ranking.
For the moment Pekora reigns supreme

>>9640095
>This guy is actually arguably more popular than the entire company...
He is the company...

>>9640095
>Also Kuzuha is at 39k at the start of the match and it's higher than Gwelu's "main" POV of 31k. This guy is actually arguably more popular than the entire company...
Link? Live-ranking may have missed it too

>>9640000
So, i realized Soraruru has vtuber channel too.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzPEM7MmmuB6lN6p7Bn-Aqg/
Unlike Mafumafu who has everything on the main channel.

Did an Utau today with 13k live viewers, though Playboard only caught 11.8k before it got set to member only
https://playboard.co/en/video/Y1eun_kc-Yo

Do we count him in the charts?
Think he'd make the top 20 today.

>>9640100
Kuzuha is literally 44k right now so he's going to beat Pekora's peak any moment.

>>9640132
>Do we count him in the charts?
Not for a while? Give it some weeks to weed out the "one hit tagalongers", like Hikakin streaming with an avatar on his gaming channel

>>9640125
Live-ranking misses quite a lot streams today or add them much later

>>9640095
Nijisanji is basically Kuzeha

Kuzuha at 50k already. Gwelu's main POV is at 32k.
He's actually going to beat the commentary stream by 20k jfc...

>>9640134
Already did, and live-ranking picked it up fortunately

>>9640175
He's had the live 2D avatar for about a year actually
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pda2j-4522A

>>9640215
In the separate channel?

>>9639838
>Mobile legends
Wtf is this

>>9640134
It’s expected. It would be devastatingly embarrassing if Pekora had more live viewers.

>>9640231
Yep, the 200k channel, not the main 1.5 mil Music channel.
It was a let's play/stream highlights channel for a year, even used a static png. Then he added the model on Oct 1st 2020.

>>9640236
mobile moba

>>9640255
The race is more Between Kuzuha and Gwelu really.
To prove if Nijisanji really is "just Kuzuha" when it comes to numbers.

>>9640262
If Live rankling has it I'll add then, when I make the daily list. If it's only on playboard it makes things a little more difficult because I would have to look for it by hand and be familiar with his schedule

Kuzuha just passed 57k so he beat Gwelu's peak too. 24k ahead of Gwelu now.
Needless to say, he has more viewers than all the other Niji streams rn combined.

>>9640296
>The race is more Between Kuzuha and Gwelu really.
>race
HAHAHAHA, the is the King, then there is the subjects.
>thanks for holding the throne warm Gwelu! I'll take over from here

>>9640206
Wtf i thought Niji supposed to have low numbers? What's with all the thread shitting on Niji then?

I’ll kneel to Pekora if she beat her ff10 finale record with this kusoge.

>>9640329
Also, man if only Nijifans liked streams...
It's really not that hard.

>>9640255
Well, Pekora knows what she's doing. She's going to continue purposefully fall down from the final stages of the game for 5 more hours to gather more sympathizing retards on her stream. So she still has her chance to get first in viewers.

>>9640351
EOPs

>>9640329
Kinda curious, only Kuzuha and this Gwelu get to stream the tournament?
Or its similar to how Hololive streamed Holosports festival

I don't know why people paint Kuzuha getting all these while everyone struggles as a good thing, It's not good for a company to rely on 1 person.
With Holo you have at least 3-5.

>>9640363
Are you retarded? Play the game for yourself, this isn't undertale or getting over it levels of difficulty. The game is more anxiety-inducing than rage.

>>9640351
>What's with all the thread shitting on Niji then?
Wut? Are you sure you mean this thread? The one giving Kuzuha the highest honors pretty much every day?

>>9640363
>purposefully
i hope so anon, i really do....

>>9640363
>She's going to continue purposefully
Watch the stream retard

>>9640343
With that said I wouldn't count Pekora out yet. She's still inclining and it is still not even 9PM in Japan

>>9640405
this1 is smooth
gj

>>9640444
?
I'm actually serious, If Pekora got 50k every stream and everyone else was under 10k every stream, I'd be a little worried.

>>9640410
yeah now that i think about it they mostly directed at the low view zako, what makes kuzuha so popular? I've seen his stream but he's alright

>>9640351
>>9640368
Kuzuha isn't all of Nijisanji lol.
Don't need to be EOP to know that. This is also one of the biggest days for Nijis since Koshien.

>>9640354
She'll need to get 25k more to do that. Very unlikely.

>>9640387
Everyone is streaming. Gwelu (would normally) get the largest share because he is the main POV with commentary, but Kuzuha is just overwhelmingly more popular than other Nijis. He's still beating Gwelu by 20k and 3rd place is his teammate Ars with 10k.

>>9640405
What are you talking about? Right now Pekora also dwarfing all other Hololive members, just like Kuzuha. For example, closest Holo stream is 25k lower than Pekora. And that's Marine - second largest Holo in terms of average live viewers.

>>9640343
English learn

We at least know for sure who will be the winner in 1 category.

>>9640471
>what makes kuzuha so popular?
He can play at a high enough level and talk to the audience at the same time. It is the same reason Pekora is popular, and the same reason Choco and Roboco, for instance, fail to get a high enough audience when they're gaming: when they concentrate hard in the game they stop talking so the only thing left is cute noises (that can only get you far enough)

>>9640497
Forgot to add that the combined views of the 5 livers on the other team is 8k right now.
Kuzuha has 56k.

>>9640536
Not really

>>9640407
I completed all routes in the game in less then 5h in my first time in this game.
Moreover, most vtubers when they reach the last stage of the game, finish it in less then 10 tries. Pekora is trying for several hours at this point. If you are not an imbecile, you'll clearly see that she's just purposefully stretching her stream.

Pekora getting 42k for playing a random indie game solo is incredibly impressive

>>9640539
So, it really boils down to the level of profession huh. Does this Kuzuha guy has any sort of streaming history or niji just picked him off the curb?

>>9640536
>>9640569
>Not really
9k is a respectable amount. I wonder who would beat that number today

Kinda New here, are the vtubers discussed here just really those from Hololive and niji?
I mean other indies that gets numbers unusually hgih for them don't?

>>9640615
Anonchama? Also, Ina already beat that.

>>9640628
Jeez Mori.

>>9640629
>ShibuyaHAL
>Patra
>VSPO

>>9640629
Want to hear the story about Shibuya Hal?

>>9640577
So you are saying she's been stretching the whole game? Just because you can do it easily doesn't mean everyone else can. also nice bait

>>9640629
we mention them, like for >>9638412 but they rarely enter the top 10 outside of that one band that mostly get big numbers when they irl stream with masks in concert.

>>9640629
>other indies that gets numbers unusually hgih for them don't
Previous thread. This thread is reserved for the two events currently taking place right now. Jump knight and pokemon unite.

>>9640629
Stuff like this comes up occasionally >>9633376 But in general it's conversation about the biggest numbers.

Kuzuha at 62k... and we're only on the quarterfinals too...
I really didn't know Nijifans liked pokemon unite this much. He might actually beat his Vsaikyou 80k at this rate.

On the other hand, Pekora has made 0 process since getting stuck in the 3rd screen of tower and is still holding 43k. Her floor is getting higher and higher. 50k+ when she finishes is likely.

>>9640606
>Does this Kuzuha guy has any sort of streaming history
He was an indie before joining Nijisanji, but he joined enough time ago for that not be relevant to his present day numbers.

There are three factors that make a streamer a heavy hitter
1) Streaming conistently. Pekora and Kuzuha stream every day to an extent it feels weird if they're not streaming in their channels in that day.
2) Streaming at a consistent time slot. Same thing for both, and for Rushia, and for Ina (for instance). Your audience ends up creating a schedule around your streaming hours and will be there at a constant number
3) Keeping your audience entertained. Some streamers do it "accidentally", like Kanata winning by failing but Kuzuha and Pekora ALWAYS keep their audiences entertained and feeling like it is "an interactive experience" instead of just passive watching

You can take every heavy hitter from either company and they'll have some or all of these qualities

>>9640731
>I really didn't know Nijifans liked pokemon unite this much
He's the only player worth watching.

>>9640507
Right now yes. But they always get around 20k ccv (+gura) . Niji on the other hand, are always under Kuzeha with the exception of special streams.

>>9640669
Mori has always been sort of monstrous when it comes to big streams, I see no reason why that'd change tonight. Might push 25-30k.

>>9640629
>Kinda New here, are the vtubers discussed here just really those from Hololive and niji?
Anyone making it to the top gets discussed. Emperor Hal, ASMR Queen Patra and some other rifraf got discussed when they got big numbers.

There is only one theme and one rule and one motto for this thread
>Big number > small number
who gets them, why or how is not that important, only how big

>>9640577
t. Kanata

>>9640569
Then who else?

>>9640694
She got to the final stage in around the same time other vtubers do. But for some 'mysterious' reasons she's stuck at the last stage for much longer time than other vtubers. Hmm... last stage... a stage where there are the most viewers gathering on the stream... I wonder why.

>>9640628
Oh, right! Ina was after Playboard cutting point? My "todays" and "tomorrows" get mixed because of JST being the cutting point for most of this thread numbers

>people think this is healthy.

>>9640669
Yeah this one is going to be a monster, she has another $50k to go to hit $1 million total and I wouldn't even be that surprised if she did it today

I see thanks for the info guys

Also thanks for reminding me, kinda Forgot Hal isn't Niji lmao

>>9640694
Shes doing fine if you compare it to like Lulu tbf. I think lulu took 30+ hours to beat this game and Peko is at 27 hours counting

>>9640810
Yeah, Ina got included in yesterday's batch, though personally I'd include it as one of today's since the stream was 5am JST iirc

>>9640629
>indies that gets numbers unusually hgih
look for top SCs of the day

>>9640507
You know what he means.
On a regular day, Kuzuha is often 2x the 2nd highest Niji stream (most Nijis don't get more than 14k) and in tournaments like this, he's very often 4-5x the #2 (if we don't count the host, Gwelu, which he shouldn't be beating if he wasn't so dominant)

Pekora and Marine are usually close and when they get 25k, there's a bunch of holos in the 13-20k range.

>>9640577
Once again watch the stream

>>9640810
No she was before, just look at the OP, Playboard's cutoff point is midnight GMT.

>>9640823
Inui had 10k before she stopped playing horror game that has already been streamed by million other vtubers.

>>9640823
Don't let Kuzuha distort your understanding of these numbers.
Not only Nijisanji sans Kuzuha is getting good numbers in your print, Kuzuha is getting great numbers for himself.

Except for Kuzuha, this distribution is not that different from what happens in multiPOV Holo collabs. His presence distorts everything because he is an outlier that makes anyone below him look weak, not because anyone below him is actually weak

>>9640823
It's just big numbers in these thread, big numbers is used as entertainment. You get holo/niji wins based from who gets top 1 of the day. People with a sensible mind here or outside of the thread knows it ain't healthy. Kuzuha is literally carrying niji on his back.

aight, you win, she's probably stalling for time, and definitely not crying rn

>>9640823
Yep, using gtl isn't healthy

>>9640765
If you didn't know, Holo's other than Pekora also don't get 20k+ for non-special streams. It has to be either some challenges, collabs, or minecraft, in Gura's case.
>are always under Kuzeha with the exception of special streams
Same goes for Holo, but replace Kuzuha with Pekora.

>>9640907
Indeed.
Pekora should receive Oscar award for her crying act.

>>9640731
He even beat Jun for the day

>>9640893
You're severely overestimating intelligence of posters here

>>9640577
I think you're underestimating how bad the bunny performs under pressure. And she's not even good to start with in most types of games.

Isn't Gweilu getting lower numbers just because his stream got fucked at one point?

>>9640893
>this distribution is not that different from what happens in multiPOV Holo collabs.
That's absolute bullshit and you know it.

>>9640960
>It has to be either some challenges, collabs, or minecraft, in Gura's case
Gura got 20k from wario today

Imagine Kuzuha unarchived karaoke numbers.

>>9641048
The bots went to Kuzuha's stream

>>9640960
>Holo's other than Pekora also don't get 20k+ for non-special streams
Marine, Miko, Subaru, Gura...etc. Even if they don't get 20k every single stream, they get in the 16-18k with relative ease. That's before I mention the dozen Holos who get 10k every night.

>minecraft, in Gura's case.
Minecraft is a special stream now? Gura got 20k playing Warioware today.

Do you count karaokes as special streams too?
If so, I have a few others who can get 20k quite regularly.

>>9640960
>If you didn't know, Holo's other than Pekora also don't get 20k+ for non-special streams.
>It has to be either some challenges, collabs, or minecraft,
If you take away challenges, collabs, minecraft, Suisei regular karaoke, Ayame RFA or just talking, Subaru talking or playing police themed games, Marine singing, drawing, Miko playing GTA then prohibit them from using their Live2D models, their regular models, forces them to denounce Japan and associate themselves with the one true Korean Empire then Sarin gas their neigjbourhood and unbraid Pekora's hair WHAT KIND OF NUMBERS HOLOS CAN EVEN GET HUH?!

>>9641100
Didn't know they had their own will

>>9640960
holy cope

Feels like there's a real SC race between Mori and Kiara's anniversary streams here

>>9640629
We talk about anyone or anything that gets big numbers and make it into the top ranks. Usually that means Holo and niji but whenever a smaller company gets up there we talk about them too.
Also occasionally this thread devolves into armchair industry experts talking about industry trends and how various companies can improve their performance but only occasionally.

>>9641049
Here anon, ranging from 20k+ to 1k+

>>9641184
>occasionally

>>9641130
>unbraid Pekora's hair

>>9641148
It's an upgraded version of Bots they're using, embedded with AI. Highest priority is to go to Kuzuha's stream when he's online. The normal functions is to distribute the bots evenly to other niji members.

>>9641186
>EN and ID
Hahaha fuck off, Post the JP one or JP Among us.

>>9640866
Why should I watch, if I already know what will happen. She will continue to fall down from the last stage, and after 5 more hours she "finally" succeeds - everyone is happy, a ton of viewers floods the stream, akasupas everywhere.

Kuzuha's team is gonna win it all at this point. Bigger numbers.

>>9641186
How retarded do you think anons in this thread are that we don't know the difference of CCV between EN and ID

Is Kuzuha popular worldwide?

>>9640866
Just fucking drop it bro, remember what thread you're in lel

>>9641203
why is she so cute like that

>>9641049
Someone post usaken summer festival or the MarioKart tournament numbers.

>>9641272
You need a reference.

i don't know if nijisanji are genius or really scummy doing these "special streams" like tournaments every other week, either way i don't like it.

>>9641228
I mean, the game isn't hard. Mobile legends, League of legends and Pokemon Unite is flooded with casuals. Any long time LoL or Dota player would find the game easy, and even more easier beating noobs in it. Kuzuha has longer experience in MOBA which is why he's likely to win.

>>9641298
>summer festival or
Miko won by the last remained.

>>9641186
>HoloID
>HoloEN
Stop using those two branch as standard for Hololive.

>>9641323
It's the only way for the little guys to get any decent numbers, see koshien.

>>9641272
>worldwide
A big fat no. His sole existence/purpose is to pander to JOPs.

>>9641211
>Hahaha fuck off, Post the JP one or JP Among us.
I am not getting your point. Here is the JP Mario Kart event, ranging from 25k+ to 1.9k+

>>9641130
Anon, you just named only ONE single special stream per each of several chuubas. If you think that you listed all the content they do, you're quite a retard.

>>9641375
so
>this distribution is not that different from what happens in multiPOV Holo collabs.
is completely false then isn't it? When have Nijisanji ever had multiple people past 10k during a collab like that?

>>9641323
>"special streams"
>scummy
(you) are retard

>>9641323
>or really scummy
Wut?
>company in charge of providing entertainment for a large audience devises a way to provide entertainment for a large audience
How would that be "scummy"?

>>9641298
>mariokart
Which one? The actual tournament or just for fun collab?

>>9641422
>muh chuuba can't win on numbers

>>9641418
Anon, I am not talking about how many are above or below a certain threshold, but about what happens in multiPOV collabs
>some streamers get big numbers
>lots of streams get small numbers

If your point is that Hololive have more heavy hitters than Nijisanji you shouldn't need to use multiPOV collabs to prove it, it is more than obvious based on the daily rankings.
But pointing out that a collab has one, two, three heavy hitters and a whole lot of small fish is not the way to prove that.

>>9641375
Are you seriously using an event with multiple 10k and 20k+ POVs as your example? When Aki Rose is literally the only one under 2k when there are 5 Holos above 10k.

Even if we take your retardedly disingenious use of the extreme ends, are you comparing a 25k to 2k distribution to a 64k to 762 distribution that's happening right now in the Pokemon Unite tournament?

>>9640960
Marine and Gura?

sub-20M

Here is the Niji ranking for the last hour. I've seen enough
>WINNER OF THE DAY AWARD
goes to: Toko.

it doesn't need any explanation other than this print screen

>>9641272
Not even Kuzuha posters in this thread watch him, so no.

>>9641524
These posts are so fucking stupid because you don't know shit about these Nijis.
Kuzuha is the clear winner of the day because the biggest event is the Pokemon Unite tournament and he got an insane number.
Toko literally just did a regular horror stream and got her regular horror stream numbers.

>>9641522
It will catch up, whether it will surpass it i have no idea. Yumejo repeating song for views is out of this world.

>>9641292
because it's my wife

>>9641323
Have you even seen Hololive's schedule for the past fucking month? There's an anniversary live every other day, new costumes for gen 5, multiple sub milestones, and birthday streams. It's actually exhausting to watch.

>>9641477
Your example doesn't even fit what you're saying.
>some streamers get big numbers
Pekora and Marine got 20k+. Ayame, Korone and Miko got 10k+
>lots of streams get small numbers
Only Aki Rose's numbers are legit small. We can even count Kanata and Nene as small eventho they got 4k.
There's literally more Holos who got good numbers than those who got bad numbers.

>>9641504
It seems that your point is that Hololive has more heavy hitters than Nijisanji and Nijisanji has more small fish than Hololive.
If that's the case you'll find no disagreement here or from anyone looking at the daily numbers.

But the distribution of viewers through the participants is not the way to prove that.

Fuck you susan

>YT slashing pekora's viewers in half

>>9641702
>>9641707
Doesn't help that Kuzuha is fine throughout this. YT is sabotaging Pekora.

why does only hololive get this fucking youtube problem like ?

>>9641431
The actual tournament which Suisei won.

>>9641619
Anniversary and birthdays are unavoidable you dumb fuck. What do you want them to do?

>>9641702
>>9641707
>>9641742
>>9641757
It's not just Hololive, it happened with Koshien too.

In this case I bet reaching 50k triggered some AI bot

>>9641757
SUSAN HATRED

>>9641757
Cover is incompetent

>>9641702
>>9641707
Was about to say she would be getting some good VOD views from people refreshing, but she ended the stream so we're probably not getting another 1 mil VOD bros...

>>9641781
meant for >>9641637

>>9641799
kek, she started another frame for a second help of moggings.
Seems like she shares the Gwelu mindset

>>9641757
???
Gwelu's pokeunite stream got nuked also.

FUCKING SUSAN DO YOUR JOB YOU DUMB WHORE

>>9641873
just now?

A million yen in Mori's prechat 20 minutes out.

Mori already got 1mil yen

>rabbit stream crashed
>marine, luna, flare, etc gained 1-3k viewers

>>9641897
>>9641903
Never underestimate musicfags.

>>9641883
Earlier, reason for his second stream

>>9641883
2 hours ago, he was at 47k and never got close to it since. People left him for Kuzuha.

>>9641909
I got redirected instantly to Luna's stream kek

>>9641928
>>9641926
ok gotcha

>>9641909
Cosmic Equilibrium at play

>>9641924
You mean mentally ill fags?

>>9641930
Me too, kek, I didn't even have the chance to do anything

>>9641967
There a non-mentally ill vtuber fans?

Recovered 30k in 5 min.

>>9641985
Fair point. There is however a exponential scale between those watching and those throwing superchats for 500 $.

Girl is on sight, best thing that happened to Pekora was the stream to restart

>>9641967
>>9642041
Patron of arts throws obscene amount of money for doodle, patron of music is not so different but i agree they kinda are mentally ill.

>>9640236
ultimate seanigger containment game

>>9642081
Well it's good for her CCV since the stream is a bit longer now and she has more time to recovery her audience.
Bad because she's tilted and literally shaking.

>>9642081
Damn it anon, you jinx it.

pain peko

>>9642081
and she fell

>>9642041
Throwing your oshi $500 is very based unless she's Mori "5%" Calliope

Holoen superchatters seem more interested in getting a reaction from chat and reddit than from the vtubers themselves

>>9642122
Believe it or not, it was actually a very popular game in Japan but it died out quite fast

>>9642088
>mentally ill.
Money has no purpose other than being spent. The amount of money you spend is proportional to the amount you've got, that's why there are bottles (boxes) of wine costing 2 bucks and bottles costing 200 bucks.

Unless that's retards taking on student loans to pay for it they're doing what they're supposed to do with money: to spend on things that give them pleasure

>>9642213
most of them were probably brought up on twitch culture so it make sense they're that desperate.

So the secret behind big numbers is suffering and determination?

>>9642212
Leave your retarded shitposting out of /#/, please. This place is civilized.

>>9642212
what with Calli and 5%?
inb4 lurk moar

>>9642130
>>9642176
>>9642185
>and she fell
EVEN BETTER! I can see her getting back to 50k before midnight JST for a second serving of moggings

>>9642226
>Money has no purpose other than being spent
The value of what you spent and what you got is what makes you mentally ill or not. 500bucks for red text is kinda... you know.

I swear Kuzuha's team has gotten zapdos every game and you just auto-win every time you get it.
It's the LoL Baron sniping experience paying off.

>>9642287
still better than booze and cigarettes imo, prostitutes? Debatable.

>>9642287
>500bucks for red text is kinda... you know.
Not if that's what you spend in a two person meal in a good night out.

Much like streamer numbers, don't let your perception of money distort its value. What may look like a lot of money for you is pocket change for others, and likewise what you spend in things you consider frivolous may be the month's wage of some peon down the pay scale.

>>9642272
She once said that Hololive only makes up 5% of her day on stream. She backtracked right away but it stuck.

HoloMyth anniversary - Superchat
Ina 1,294,203円
Mori 1,189,014円
Kiara 869,374円

>>9642397
>She once said that Hololive only makes up 5% of her day on stream.
It's crazy how much this Chinese whispers board has twisted what she said into this.

>>9642287
You're paying for the entertainment. The same way people throw cash at street performers, if what you are getting is worth, then $500 a year is something even I would spend on. It's only mentally ill if you spend reds everyday just because you want your text to be seen or you see the streamer themselves as your property (Chinks)

>>9642212
>5%
Isn't that the true for most holomem?

>>9642272
She said that she spent about 5% of her day on streaming, and then retarded dramaniggers parroted it until it became "Hololive is 5% to her"

>>9642397
wonder what she does 95% of the remaining time? Farm Charlie's VODs?

>>9642468
>Retarded dramaniggers
So like this guy? >>9642479

>>9642487
Yes exactly like that guy

>>9642345
Is it the finals next? Who's he up against?

>>9642479
New originals + Covers + roommate+...

>>9642226
An more apt example of your analogy would be 3 people drinking the same wine. the first drinking for free, the second tipping lets say 10 $ and the last tipping 500 $. The content hasn't changed just the willingness and possibility to spend on it. Spending 500 $ as a tip for content that is free to shows a disregard for any monetary value, it screams 2nd generation wealth, which in most cases are mentality ill people out of touch with the world in general.

>>9642479
A normal fucking life? You must be envious.

>>9642461
i supposed?

>>9642479
I heard she is working on 6 originals for her and other members…

>>9642501
Fuwa's team, the supposed favourites.
Kuzuha's team looks way stronger tho imo.

Also, Pekora got 50k again. Double 50k for the day LETS GOOOOO

>>9642286
huh, pretty sure i just saw it got over 50k

guys, why is my oshi not in this rankings anymore?

>>9642461
nah
5%=1:12h
even Mori streams for ~2-3h
so she is at least ~10% Mori

>>9642510
>Ya want a balanced following?
>Then start creating, stop tweeting

Her roommate has stopped creating and now is only tweeting for doxxbeats

>>9642617
Anon...

>>9642617
coma-chama...

Mori already overtook Ina and her stream started 1 minute ago

>>9642512
>Spending 500 $ as a tip for content that is free to shows a disregard for any monetary value, it screams 2nd generation wealth, which in most cases are mentality ill people out of touch with the world in general.
I rarely get this type of absurdly envious and jealous comment in this site outside of /pol/.

Your analogy is apt tho, it is exactly that. Three people sat in a table, drank the same glass of wine for free and listened to someone playing music and entertaining them for about one hour.
First tipped nothing because he prefers not to / can't afford, second tipped 10 because that's how much he preferred to / can afford and the third tipped 500 because that's how much he preferred to / can afford.

It has nothing to do with "mental illness" and everything to do with "how much they value entertainment" and "how little they value money".
Interestingly the biggest spenders I have the pleasure to fraternize are yuppie GenXers, none of them 2nd generation wealth and all of them more wealthy than their middle class parents

>>9642617
Tatunokos you have to let go....

kuzuha channel

>>9642607
>>9642589
It did now

Is it just me or youtube acting up again?

Mori just started her anniversary stream and Pekora hasn't taken a hit. Marine went into SC reading so a portion might have transferred back to Pekora.
Pekora should be able to sustain 50k+ even if Mori gets 18-20k for her anniversary stream.

>>9642589
Checked the main stream and I think he's going against his sister instead? Not sure how strong she is but Kuzuha is probably going to win this

>>9642745

>>9642809
Mori isn't going to get 18k for an anniversary stream with no totsumachi with this much overlap.

So many red canadians.......what is it that make mori so special? Seriously?

>>9642823
You're right, it's Honhima's team. Well at least we know there's not going to be any challenge in overlap taking viewers away from Kuzuha.
Honhima's team has Hajime and Levi kek.

>>9642877
She's good isn't she?

>>9642682
Yeah this kind of appreciation is something that I feel is very common for upper middle class like nips salarymen, the kind of disregard toward spending wealth for 2nd generation wealth rarely involved things like supporting content creater and charity but more toward vanity like brand shit or something.

You're right, it's Honhima's team. Well at least we know there's not going to be any challenge in overlap taking viewers away from Kuzuha.
Honhima's team has Hajime kek.

>>9642980
for >>9642823

>I can't spend the same amount for my entertainment, I'll become a psychiatrist instead

>>9642910
Good point, can't imagine a fuckboy zoomer dropping akas lol

Mori 1,746,852円

>>9642877
Some mofo just drop $500-300 like it was nothing!

>>9642617
Look in a trashcan, she's probably there.

>>9641575
I reminds me of kpoop stans viewbotting songs

>>9643091
money laundering

>>9643148
K-POP plays its own game though.
100M views 24 hr RTA

>>9643148
It's essentially the same behaviour, just on a smaller scale.

>>9642770
second stream doesn't count, KING has already won.

>>9643249
>100M views 24 hr RTA
wait srsly

Pekora keeps repeating the same mistake. Too much energy drink

>>9643207
Vtubers are clearly charity cases so it must be a tax deductible right?

>>9643148
well maybe hololive and nijisanji fans should take notes on kpop streaming tactics because look at the numbers bts is making

>>9643249
Those crazy teenagers have their own strats to viewbot and get youtube to count the views

>>9643346
You don't even need to seethe like this, it's not like she'll surpass him anyway

>>9643346
nijicope

>>9643346
>second stream doesn't count
kek, of course it does count. She won't get anywhere near that tho, but she may pass the tanned Demiurge

>>9643402
Women are bigger numberfags than men

>>9643373
https://kworb.net/youtube/milestones_100.html

>>9643373
For BTS and BLACKPINK, not joking.
May be a bit exaggerated for other K-POP group.

>>9643379
read somewhere last thread (i think), some anon stated that in certain countries, vtubers doesn't get a proper occupation's classification therefore it's requires to need to pay tax whatsoever

>>9643437
Pick the highest one if the double streams are caused by technical problem.

>>9643475
>Butter
never even heard of

>>9643580
Yeah, that's a good idea to declutter the ranking

>>9643609
They play it on the radio in the US. A kpop song being played on American radio and getting #1 on Billboards.

https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/9609037/bts-butter-number-one-hot-100-ninth-week/#:~:text=%22Butter%22%20is%20the%20longest%2D,License%22%20in%20January%2DMarch.

>Phasmophobia collab
Botan opened strong as fuck

>>9643609
Even Butter is faster than Dynamite, I still prefer the latter.

Pekora will lose viewers now. Monday work.

>>9643475
Kpop fans are giant numberfags
I had to help my niece viewbot a new bts song with all the devices in my house when she came to visit

>>9643694
Multicuturalisation everyone

>>9643609
and yet it's sitting at almost 550 million views, solely thanks to the power of teenage girls (and grown ass women) streaming.
the numberfagging we do in this thread is nothing compared to kpop fans.

>>9643538
I meant for the donations, i.e. you throwing a superchat and then deducting on your taxes.

The vtuber thing isn't a shock desu in some countries, streamers have had the same thing in some countries as well.

>>9643747
She may replace some with EOP

>>9643781
wtf can't you just say no?

>>9643781
that's hilarious but i guess if you think about it it's a cute thing to do for your niece

I feel that "Kpop fans are using viewbots" is the main reason that viewers numbers are becoming weird after December

>>9642845
>Mori isn't going to get 18k for an anniversary stream with no totsumachi with this much overlap.
APOLOGIZE!

>>9643852
NTA but can you? even chinks kneel toward them.

>>9643798
>the numberfagging we do in this thread is nothing compared to kpop fans.
But we're just analyzes and compare figures right? or is there some anon with multiple devices farming rn kek

>>9643883
kpop fans have been doing mass streaming before the vtuber boom. even bts was already releasing hit albums and MVs in 2015-16.

>>9643883
Kpop caused a lot of the changes on Youtube. Pewdiepie vs T-series caused the sub indicator change (it's why it only updates every 10k after 1m).

step aside, Vniggers

Do you think Vshojo has finally leeched off HoloEN's fanbase?

>>9643874
Yeah, if only she didn't talk about those gay gooks and which ones she ship all the time

>>9644065
You are fucking weird, seriously

>>9644081
Short answer is no. Long answer is HAHAHAHA ,no

>>9644065
>jun channel
look punchable af lmao

>>9643980
that's my point, we just observe numbers and post them. kpop fans do that but they also make strategies and organize to mass stream songs/videos and mass buy albums. there are twitter accounts that do fundraisings for bulk buying. they will also numberfag literally anything even shit like twitter mentions and hashtags/trends, which we look at in this thread from time to time but not to the same extent.
>t. zoomer sibling is neck deep into this shit

zuha past 68k

Rushia just made up 14k on a pretty much made up milestone. Sasuga!

>>9644154
You laugh, but most of Vshojo's streams have surpass HoloEN in views already LOL

>>9644108
Yeah i wouldn't want my niece to get worship obsessed with someone whom they'll never meet nor having any positive impact upon their life.

oh wait

>>9642845
KNEEL BITCH

Kuzuha won and peaked at 68k. He was mogging Gwelu by like 30k and it was deserved because what is the point of watching other people's POV when he's so much better lmao. He won MVP almost every match and it looked like bullying in-game.

While she won't beat 68k, Pekora peaked again at 54k and is impressive in her own right for generating a 50k+ stream for herself out of pure determination.

>>9644162
Yeah i remember they overtaken the google search result to cover up some gook's car crash, crazy stuff lol
>zoomer sibling is neck deep into this shit
condolences

>>9644065
Is he jp shroud? He has more views than the main jp stream

>>9644379
>bully literal children when playing for fun
>bully your coworkers when playing in your company tournament
based

>>9644402
Basically, Stylishnoob is a JP FPS legend.

>>9644272
>Anon unironically compares Twitch and Youtube numbers.

>>9644379
Girl is getting 50K+ without any special event whatsoever lol. I don't get why so many people like her so much, but good for them I guess

>>9644486
Please no resetting the timeloop

how does this stupid game still get them kind of numbers

>>9644379
He has a moba background. It's like in ollie's chess tournament. He has a rating of 1500 vs under 700s.

>>9644379
>generating a 50k+ stream for herself out of pure determination.
The game fucking suck monkey ass
i haven't slept 30 hours

>>9644499
i'm suspecting it might be the bgm

>>9644525
>play it on the phone
>give anon you in 4chan
>blink and she is back on the floor
>laugh
Its a very good game to watch while doing something else.

>>9644525
Imagine hololive got fromsoftware games permission. Pekora and aqua would benefit dearly.

>>9644788
Aqua has done DS speedruns before so she'll just restore her old VODs instead of streaming them again.

Pekora ragequitted Sekiro before the Holocaust.

>Gura roping in some nips
https://twitter.com/hiroerei/status/1436320848827191309

In this case, Black Lagoon author. Seems like she has an appeal that can breach the language barrier on the other way around too. I wonder if she's due for a second spurt of growth by adding asians (nips and gooks) in her audience

>>9644788
didn't Noel play Darksoul before?

>>9644941
She's a fucking loli with a pleasing aesthetic, asians love that shit

>>9644941
Nips already are a pretty significant portion of her audience

>>9644919
Sekiro's even harder than what she's streaming rn?

>>9645015
GO MORI GO

>>9644788
>>9644919
I love rushia ds run. That game make her super popular.

>>9644945
Holocaust happened.

>>9645015
P-Polka...

>>9645015
Just looked up that ノックチャンネル and turns out it's another gossip/scandal channel. No surprise they're using niji/holo tags.

kuzuha sub numbers have been stuck though, he hit 1mi and can't get more subs ever since, he gets big numbers like usual though. why aren't the japs subbing?

is the tournament over?

>Kuzuha carried and won it.
expected

>>9644525
Suffering kino
The longer the endurance stream, the higher the viewership

>>9645457
It's the same thing with Kanata as well, both of her undertale Sans fight and Minecraft gacha got a lot of views just from suffering.

>>9645206
He reached 7 digits. He's not gura that can gain 10k+ subs in a day or 2. Not by a long shot.

So, it's valorant spam for Kuzuha now? It's a month long tourney right?

>>9645693
what? He just played a VALO tournament.

Streams over 10k on live-ranking so far. Missing the following streams
>Council meeting: 31k, would be #3
>Ina anniversary: 18k, would be #8

>>9645724
Yeah, but I thought it was separate that the month long valorant tourney. Idk honestly, I just read things here.

Mori 20K (during RIP watchalong)

>>9645206
>subs
lol

>>9642617
Check OnlyFans

>>9645693
now its 1mil celebration

>>9643088
2,769,618円

>Pekora just started inclining and peaked again
She's catching the outflow of other Holos wrapping up?

>>9645633
but he was getting 20k subs a day because of that hikakin video.

>>9646098
No she's three jumps away from the peak

STOP THE COUNT PEKO

keep counting, I only need to post once when kuzuha puts up his 1mil anniv stream.

>>9646098
She's at 60k now.

>Pekora pretending she didn't stall for numbers

64K+ jeeezuz it just spiked up

>65k
lol a bit more struggling and Pekora would have beat the whole fucking tournament, but her mind would break

Holy fuck she did it .... 65k peak too
Only 3k away from Kuzuha's peak.
Might have been possible if she stalled for a bit longer, but this is impressive as FUCK.

>K-King...
GET BEHIND ME KUZUHA!

>>9645808

>>9646380
Don't worry, she peaked and dropped of, your King is safe....for today.

What's the rrats number bros?
Tab-out theory? or 4chans have 3k autist ready to check stream because anon is leaking the result?

>THE POWER OF A COMPANY WIDE TOURNAMENT AND MVP OF THE GAME
>ONE AUTISTIC RABBIT PLAYING A GAME MORE THAN 30 HOURS

The results may surprise you

Hail to the King Baby

>>9646475
King won, nothing surprising.

>that rain of money
jesas...

>>9646454
That cut really close

>>9646509
Which king?
>>9646486

Pekora should have tried to stall by saying she needed to go to the bathroom and waiting for a few minutes til it got higher.

>>9646471
It is 100% Tab out.
I am now 100% convinced. Between the Usaken SummerFes graphs, how Marine's concert stalled and INSTANTLY STARTED CLIMBING OFF OF ONLY AUDIO CUES WHEN SHE RESTARTED, and this, where everyone obviously was waiting for Pekora's screams of elation...
Yea, fucking YT, and fuck you for nerfing Karaoke numbers by fucking all the Holos over with your tab-out culling nonsense.

As a numberfag i'm satisfied today. Today number is good.

>>9646574
Didn't Rushia make 15k?

>>9646672
last hour

Stream ended, let's see where youtube will dump her outflow.
Mine went to Nene

>>9646509
>>9646475
yeah, damn right the Jump King

>>9646647
> 2 60k+ streams
> 2 30k+ streams
> Quite a few 20k+ streams
If you aren't satisfied today, you aren't a true numberfag

>>9646595
I feel rather than typical tab out, it's more like they only count one stream only if you watch two stream or more at the same times

Lulu

1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4d7XNByIEM
>11:32:52
2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXOfv0WD1Xg
>07:07:58
3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggefSomjW_8
>11:50:40
4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIr0tnlWh2E
>02:23:02

Pekora

1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wunDX1zTsoE
>11:54:07
2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BvGq4uNT4k
>09:51:20
3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTRtXVbEdIA
>05:34:25
4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHBbO7cuX70
>01:36:37

Pekora cut the stream too short by skipping the credit scene. She would've gotten more than 15k. But, anyway the amount she earnt today is worth the 28 hours of gameplay.

>>9646593
she's a numberfag but not that hardcore lol

>>9646574
Pekor overtook Mori

>>9646728
flare to me

>>9646754
It's still a tab out. You could alternate between two tabs of a youtube stream, and it'll count the one you're watching on. I don't play by that rule though, I have two accounts and two monitors.

>>9646754
What about watching two different streams on phone and pc at the same time?

>>9646792
Jezas

>>9646748
i always thought numberfagging means comparing oshis and companies's figures.
This here is the true numberfag mentality

>>9646538
niji slayer Usada san

>>9646792
Pekor: 1,354,088円
Mori: 2,850,835円

>>9646792
nah

>>9645808
Just for clarity, Ars got 21k because Kuzuha fans were using her stream as a waiting room to hear his voice until he started his stream.
Once he started she dropped to 10k for the event, which is still good numbers for her, but the 21k peak is deceptive.

>>9646728
I don't use autoplay

>>9646748
>>9646872
>This here is the true numberfag mentality
True. Today was such a strong day 15k would leave you out of the top 10 and 10k doesn't guarantee you in the top 20

>>9646789
The real hardcore numberfag is the guy who did a getting over it endurance on his birthday

>>9646919
>but the 21k peak is deceptive.
A peak is a peak. That's why I use the median of the avg ccv for weekly and monthly charts tho

>>9646792
Well, Mori isn't done yet. It's one shower of elated nousagis vs celebrating deadbeats.

>>9646911
>>9646913
>In last 60 minute
Learn to read please

>>9646872
Naw, tribalfags just shit up the thread and should die in a ditch.

>>9646860
It depends if YT thinks one account on two devices is 'fine'. If it isn't, they probably cull one using whatever metrics they've set.

[EN]:
Glowing starAims for this weekGlowing star

= To reach 1.28M subscribers
= To release short vids everyday
= To strengthen my bonds with the other Hololive members

Hachaama's goals for next week. Will she do it?

>>9647003
Deadbeats blew their load too early and now their wallets are empty, she had a strong start but she's not going past $30k unless she really milks it by crying or something

>>9646931
What's the top 10 today ? I think things will change a bit Botan is nearing 18k.

>>9647096
That's Kiara

>>9647080
>To reach 1.28M subscribers
No.

>>9646998
The reason why I'm saying it's deceptive is it gives the impression that some Nijis got 20k+ for the Pokemon Unite event too, when in reality, literally no one except Kuzuha and Gwelu, the host of the event, got above 20k.
To say Kuzuha is very very very far ahead his coworkers in numbers and popularity is a huge understatement.

>>9647102
>>9645808 + >>9646447

>>9647102
See >>9645808 for how things were a couple of minutes ago

Nene 14k.

>>9647150
If anything it's pretty impressive how dedicated Kuzuha fans are. Sucks for the person who gets wait room'd since they just see their view count massively drop.

>>9647080
>To reach 1.28M subscribers
No, Hachaama is falling for the meme of chasing subs and it usually has the inverse effect.
>To release short vids everyday
This is easier to do and she should keep doing them.
>To strengthen my bonds with the other Hololive members
I wish this happens since I want more EN collabs with her.

Ongoing streams above 10k

>>9647197
Let's go she deserves every last bit of it. She's so fun to watch.

>nene 16k on fucking Snek

>>9647219
His fans are at max 30k (Normal solo apex streams & other game streams, valorant SFV). The others are probably fans of other livers or niji fans joining to watch him. I

>Kuzuha (number of streams: 13)
10,000 - 19,999: 4
20,000 - 29,999: 3
30,000 - 39,999: 3
40,000 - 49,999: 1
50,000 - 59,999: 0
60,000 - 69,999: 1

median: 23,182
average: 30,101

>Pekora (number of streams: 11)
10,000 - 19,999: 0
20,000 - 29,999: 4
30,000 - 39,999: 5
40,000 - 49,999: 0
50,000 - 59,999: 1
60,000 - 69,999: 1

median: 31,886
average: 34,912

>>9646792
That's only the last 60 minutes

>>9647219
Isn't that pretty normal? Like how Roboco got 24k recently only thanks to collab participants. And the drop wasn't even that bad, she still peaked at 12k without Kuzuha and had the most viewers in their team after him.

>>9647291
Long time no see, Leos.

>>9647314
>Holostats isn't tracking Nene's stream
RIP it's one of her best game streams recently too

>>9647314
She broke 17k and then died.

>>9647372
3 and 2 times less subs than gura