/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Does anyone have any recommendations for artists who make streaming pngs? My model is wearing armor, which isn't something I'm seeing when I do my twitter reps, so I'd like to see if anyone here has experience with that sort of thing

>>9492840
there was an /asp/ie a while back who has a model with armor but he's stopped self posting after he got started. https://twitter.com/AndyHussar

>>9492840
I've seen a lot of artists with "no armor" in their commissions lists. That could be a stumbling block.

>>9493303
Such a basic competency, you learn that as art fundies.

Valefor aside, go ask Ariarinchan if she's up to draw armor.

Is there a market for menhera GFE content? like Yumemi Riamu

>>9494646
there's a market for pretty much anything as long as you market yourself to the right people.

>>9494646
Anon Rushia has been the most superchated hololive member for months now of course there is a market

>>9494646
please be ryona gfe please be ryona gfe please be ryona gfe please b

>>9496392
please be switch ryona gfe please be switch ryona gfe please be switch ryona gfe please be s

Any chuubas in here have a personal account on streaming site that they don't stream on, and their streaming account? I kinda want to give vtubing a shot, but I kinda don't want to do it on my older account that I'd had for years

>>9498521
just make a new account it's not that hard.

>>9498565
I'm just wondering if some use both accounts still, or they ditched their older account still. It would kinda feel weird acting like someone new in all the places I'm a regular in

>>9498687
i've made my vtuber account my main thing. any reps i could do on my old account i can be doing on my vtuber account.

I know the basics of Blender, wanted to make my own model (And maybe models for others), however, all guides say you need a reference sheet, i can't into drawing, is there any program where i can generate a 2D character to base my 3D model on? Should i just fork over the cash and commission a character sheet?

>>9491187
getting assets made and finding a live2d artist is impossible

>>9499753
What are you looking for and how much are you paying?

>>9499699
how are you planning on creating a character with no reference sheet?

>>9499699
>Can't draw and doesn't even know you need a reference orthographic image for 3D model
Your model is going to look like shit

>>9491187
https://v3.fastupload.co/file/5770
Is my voice suitable for Vtubing? I'm not looking to be incredibly successful, I would be happy with a comfy audience as interaction is far better.
Do I need to be more outspoken? More forward?
WARNING: Turn the sound down a bit if you would like to listen (thank you very much!!) because my ear drums got blasted from the automatic full volume ;////
I'd be willing to take criticism, thank you

>>9500422
ain't touching that link, post a vocaroo. but it's likely your voice is fine.

>>9500468
https://voca.ro/1618GO9yrZrf
Oh gosh!!! sorry
I wasn't aware that you could upload audio files to vocaroo

>>9500422
Can you use your real voice or one closer to it? This is cute but it sounds really strained and you won't be able to keep it up for long

>>9500568
mic is fine. voice is okay. take deeper breaths and stop slouching. good and clear pronunciation. your voice is fine.

>>9500468
i am currently training to keep it up
i am not fond of my other voice

>>9500422
>>9500568
is it your regular voice? if you can sing you'll make it

>>9500835
can you find an inbetween? If I heard this I would just click off. Think like Gura even. Her voice is pitched up but not to an extreme

>>9500835
let us hear the other voice

>>9500835
ignore the anons, they're plenty of space for loli voice chuubas. just vocaroo with the voice you plan on using as a vtuber. but honestly you are clear and easy to understand which is the biggest thing for streamers.

>>9501152
it's too forced though. Gura is loli but it's natural sounding

>>9501450
wow a single neckbeard anon thinks it's forced that mysterychuuba's entire fucking career is over before it even started.

>>9500422
what kind of character will you try to be?

>>9501613
she asked.

>>9501705
i am trying to be a loli (I'll keep trying!)
i like guras voice but I do not want it to be like hers
my character is already ready n rigged (i dont want to reveal much)

>>9501814
Nice! good luck and never give up!

>>9501912
thank you :DDD

>>9500568
UOOOOOOH

>>9499851
>>9499941
Idk how getting a reference sheet being necessary flew over my head, i was thinking about using a generator to at least get a starting point, doesn't have to produce amazing results, it only needs to be a starting point

>>9502905
Just use a Base

>>9503001
that's not going to work. don't give advice when you're retarded

>>9502905
you'll need to make an orthographic image and then project it for your model.

>>9500568
It's a really cute voice I just worry about voice straining especially when you do longer streams
There's definitely a market for squeaky loli voices

>>9503452
I have only done a few test streams and My longest stream was 2-3 hours, so I will do more test streams to keep it up to 5-7
I don’t think I would be streaming that long this year so I have some time to get used to it

>>9503624
Do you have any tips on achieving that voice? I wouldn't want to do it for streams but I'd like to expand my vocal range

>>9499850
Just looking for an artist to take OC into ready to rig art and assets for stingers, as for payment I don't really have a limit, but I'd like to get the live2d art + rig under 1000

designing a Vtuber is ....difficult to say the least. do you guys have any tips or ideas?

>>9508526
pick a design and start. you can change it later. too many anons waste months trying to come up with an OC when they could be getting stream reps in.

>>9501814
are you pro cunny or anti cunny?

How is the market for reading/storytelling vtubers, or vtubers learning music rather than the already skilled?
I'm not looking to make it big or get into it seriously or anything. I just had the idea that vtubing would be a nice excuse for doing my voice and maybe music reps, though I'd be starting the music from scratch.

>>9510044
reading and storytelling exists, but you need to pick a popular niche.
no one cares about vtubers learning music. you might be able to show off your 6 month progress, but no one is going to watch you during those 6 months.

Pippa's current stream is fantastic, and I encourage everyone to enjoy the autistic rabbit.
https://youtu.be/SZS2XMnSWyo

>>9500897
You really need to go outside if you think anyone can sound remotely similar to that without forcing it.

>>9500897
I think I can sing? I’m rather busy at the moment but I might be able to record something later on. Do you have cover recommendations?

>>9511333
Cruel Angel's Thesis if you want to sing nip.

>>9503748
The technique i use is odd and difficult to describe… it’s almost like pushing out of your throat harshly (not the greatest explanation)
There might be some better tutorials online
I basically just increased my speaking voice over the course of 4-5 months

>>9510079
Thanks for the feedback. I wasn't sure what kind of niche I'd be looking at for reading, but I considered picking longer stories and horror or mystery genres as far as material goes.
I think I would still stream my music learning, for posterity and my own sake. I won't hold any delusions about getting any viewers with my content, though.

>>9512701
>I think I would still stream my music learning,
you really shouldn't since you'll be killing your stream viewer average by jumping between different core content

I finished my interview with X company. I think I did very well but I'm still nervous. I hope I can get it, but even if I don't this is a big step for me since I'm a literal who Vtuber. Makes me think I'm in the right path.

t. Femanon who got an interview with one of the companies listed

>>9508526
Simple designs are always the best, having a bunch of details and accessories may make you stand out somewhat but it could easily make you look like a retard. Only use 2 to 3 colors that compliment each other as your primary color, anything more would be a mess to look at. Design outfits that you think that you/your character would actually wear and not something that you think would stand out/looks cool. Don’t design anything with a mask, facial expressions make it easier for the viewers to connect with you. Heterochromia and asymmetrical clothes are cancers

>>9513446
If you get it you can join the list of /here/tubers that are in companies.

Random question, if I'm indie and not yet monetized, do I need still need to find copyright free instrumentals for songs I want to sing for karaoke

>>9515828
you're gonna get content ID'd on youtube and your vods will be muted on twitch regardless.

>>9515828
if you want to re-upload the stream for your yt channel, try to find copyright free or that music companies are gonna take revenue from your videos even if you are not monetized

>>9515992
>>9515880
Would that still contribute to the YT channel view hours toward monetization if copyright holders take revenue from my videos?

>>9516146
yes

which vtubers pull off the cute, wholesome animal/mythical creature avatar well?
i think it would help mitigate the male debuff esp if i use an androgynous voice

what do you guys think of a vtuber that mainly does robotics. Cus i already do robotics and thought i could stream it. but

>>9517420
if you mean by design, literally any vtuber with a design that fits that. just search "mythical creature name" plus vtuber. if you're looking for successful, it doesn't matter because design doesn't factor into streamer skill.
>>9518887
look and see if there are traditional webcam streamers who are already doing it because that'll tell you if there's a market or not. if there aren't any, it might still be viable, but you'll be paving the wave so expect the climb to be pretty steep.

>>9518887
Sounds fucking cool. I have been wanting to make streams buying and fixing old computers and cartridges because it seems fun. You should do it. If you are going to do it regardless at least make it into content, i would for sure watch.

>>9495767
Where would you market menhera though?
>>9495813
Does it work if my voice is more mature/onee-san type than Rushia? cmiiw but I think Rushia gets a big loli 'must protect' buff

>>9519246
smaller forums for your specific niche audience.

>>9519246
Here. Shill your stream on /wvt/ i have always wanted to witness a suicide live.

>>9519075
thanks, that means alot to me

4channers, would you have some advice on how to stream that sort of content. Im currently thinking of having two cameras, one to run my avatar, and another pointed at what im working on.

Also, do you think people would only watch the assembly, or other parts of the process like design, programming, electrical design, etc

>>9519493
>4channers
Oh no are you the menhera vtuber from the other thread?
I would watch the whole process

>>9519493
2 cameras is fine, do a test run and place some red tape around your work station so you know exactly where the camera can and can't see. make sure the second camera is mounted securely. Haachama's camera fell down in a recent stream because it wasn't secured and showed off her foot. if the camera spun the other way, it might have revealed a lot more.

Where can I find a working, cracked copy of Live2d Cubism? My free trial is up and I can't save my hours worth of work ;__;

>>9500568
Sounds pretty good, but like someone else said, it may be straining if you stream too long

>>9518887
Sounds comfy

>>9513446
What did you do for your audition? Nothing super specific but was it like a compilation of your content etc?

>>9523658
No. I did a voice acting roleplay scene of the character I had in mind. I used Matsuri's audition tape that she showed as a reference

>>9523988
Ooh, that's more specific than I was expecting. I saw the niji cat did something kinda like that as well. Good luck!

>>9524098
Thank you! I did watch hers as well, so I did something similar in style. I wanted to showcase my voice acting + voice range and I think I was able to do so.

>>9524157
I think that's a good idea! Audition stuff always confuses me, maybe I'm a bit dumb. They're always quite vague with saying what to do so I don't really know what should actually get put in them. I've never tried, I just think it's interesting

https://voca.ro/1jVJXqLe1rfj this is my audition tape for holoen3 gen 2

>>9524865
You can't be serious...

>>9500568
This is a voic changer.

t. Have tried something similar in the past

>>9525219
meoow

>>9513854
agree with most of this, a lot of people seem to forget that only the top 1/3 of the vtubers model will be visible during streams

and its going to be zoomed out ... so too many unnecessary details or accessories add clutter and mess

the asymmetrical designs imo arent that bad as long as its done tastefully

my noise reduction filters ends up cutting my high pitched noises, is there any way I can fix this?

Does anyone have any advice for aspiring managers/staff.

I've been applying, but haven't heard anything from anyone. All the stuff I've put down is how I've been helping an indie, running a disc*rd, and have a business/management-related degree. Not sure what could actually help me out more than that.

>>9532169
Who have you been managing, and how big have they got?

DESU, I would have thought managers would either be brought on along with the talent, or they'd recruit externally to vtubing - it's still new(ish) as a field, so there probably isn't much experience in it.

The one thing I'd mention is that if you've only boosted one chuuba, that doesn't prove much. Ideally, you should have done it for several, including one who's BAD, and needs to be carried.

>>9533520
Only one and it's only been from single digits to double digits; so really not much.

>>9534370
Yeah, so the problem is that with only datapoint, they can't tell if you're actually good at your job (sorry). checked on google, it reckons 1-2 months average to hit affiliate. Using that as a benchmark because it's a solid, set, point

Some people speedrun affiliate, and get it in 5 days. Some people take years to get there. If you manage one person on Twitch, and they hit it in 1 month, then that's the lower end of average, which is good. If you get them there in a fortnight, that's REALLY good... But maybe it was a fluke.

If you do five streamers, and get them all to affiliate within 6 weeks, then you're showing consistency, even if it's not as good as your previous. Pretty much everywhere would rather have consistent results than massive peaks and troughs.

What you should do is pick a streamer that's plateaued, preferably for a few weeks. Manage them, get them inclining up to the next milestone (affiliate, 10/25/50 average, whatever). That way they can see it's not just an eye for picking talent, or luck, but actual work. The time you personally put in made a difference to a streamer.

>>9534630
My person is on YT so not sure how much of that applies. I mostly just promo, suggest ideas for streams, and make a few clips for them to post on the channel.

>>9534695
Anonsama... Are you sure you're a manager, not just a gosling?

>>9534746
she's the one calling me manager lmao; lowkey hate the title but I would love to work a staff job because my current job is lame as shit

>>9532169
that's literally nothing. those positions are meant for actual managers not fans

>>9534995
What counts as an actual manager?

>>9531737
I haven't used it yet, but this should be superior noise reduction for background cruft to the OBS default https://lockhinator.com/background-noise-be-gone-twitch-obs-streaming-audio-guide/

>>9535017
someone who isn't just a discord mod who thinks he is important lol

>>9536804
Something tells me you don't know the actual answer, so you just default to "le disc*rd mod joke"

>>9535017
there are zero anons who know what an actual manager does other than pure speculation. anyone with actual experience and knowledge wouldn't be the type of person to hang around /asp/ and they certainly wouldn't say anything even if that were the case.

>>9536872
he literally is just a discord mod for a single indie though. even if it were multiple he's sitll just a discord mod. Why would anyone take his application seriously?

>>9536951
I want to believe otherwise but you're probably right

>>9536984
Still the same anon dude. Did you even read my original post? I listed more than just discord mod. I'm well aware of how useless being a mod is on its own; the point of my question was to try and find out what would actually work as experience and figure out how to break into the industry, not to try and convince you that I'm somehow already pro-level management. Use your brain anon.

>>9536951
>what an actual manager does
Sets up social media for the talent, keep an eye on trends, get everything ready to go
Works the posts and ensures that they get picked up by other accounts. Possibly works to delete posts with low engagement to be recycled
Clears technical/legal issues in advance - makes sure that the music library is filled with a good selection to avoid DMCA
Falseflags as fans to commission fanart, or just generating official art.
Merch - finding artists, getting the art, getting it set up.
Find and rec collab options on games, as well as players. If they've got a manager, makes it ever easier, because we can organise it without the talent's ego getting in the way.
Sponsors. If you approach with a group of 3 under a single banner, you get a bigger cut of the pie than if 3 singles do it. There's more weight to your selection, and if all three of the talents promote someone, you have a much wider and deeper reach.
All the stuff that an indy could do outside of actual streaming - they find someone who can do it better than the streamer, so they have more hours in the day to actually focus on their main product.

Is this one yours?
>>9534311

>>9538367
>recently debuted
the vods go back to 2 months. I doubt its her that posted it

>>9537504
doubtful that any /asp/ie would ever need a manager for the things you described until they're at least approaching 100 active viewers.
>legal shit
doesn't matter since you don't have the numbers, at worse your VOD is deleted
>collabs
also doesn't matter since you can just feel out who you want to collab with, if you're reaching out to another chuuba who is big enough for a manager, you're not getting a collab
>sponsors
they make sponsorships retard proof since it's been a commonplace thing since 2013 on twitch. Raid Shadow Legends even automates 90% of their sponsorship deals that almost any Twitch affiliate can enroll in. larger ones aren't even an option since you don't have the numbers to even get their attention.
>trends and promotion
just make a fucking tiktok account and scroll through it for 5 minutes and you'll pick up on all the trends. making a <30s video on OBS is dead simple, all you need to do is flip the orientation of the video so it fits on a phone.

>>9538669
>"its just that easy"
>still an /asp/ie

>>9538728
what are you even trying to implying?

I'm finally caving to viewer requests and attempting an ASMR audiobook reading in the near future. I think my microphone is all set up with the appropriate filters/chains/etc., but I'm lost as to what I'm supposed to do other than read the book I've chosen (yes I have rights to it before you ask). I'm also not sure if I'm supposed to be in the ASMR or Just Chatting category.

>>9539384
just read the book, ask your viewers what they want if anything extra. set it to ASMR so random viewers who may be interested can stumble upon your stream while you're live.

Is there even any point trying to start when you're just a bloke from the NORF and not a fancy uwu twink

>>9540959
it's a fun hobby

>>9540980
You know what you're right. Thanks

>>9540959
Mate, by the end of next week, I'll have covered my costs, and got nudes from a hot german girl.

I don't even have a proper model.

>>9541458
Did she just... like, give you the nudes? "Hey, have my cooter"?

>>9541458
link?

How big of a mistake is it to do karaoke when you suck at singing?

>>9543717
it's only a mistake if you constantly apologize and bitch about how bad you are. if everyone including yourself know it's bad then just own and sing as hard as you can without killing your voice. it's gonna be cringe and you're gonna lose some viewers but who cares. just do it for the fun of it. have a beer or two before if it helps you.

>>9543896
Oddly reassuring desu. Reframing is as getting drunk and making an ass of myself kind of removes a lot of pressure.

>>9541458
how do you even go about getting a proper model? I cant draw for shit

>>9544221
commissions

>>9538367
Never seem their design in the threads; not the first time I've seen someone do this though
Letania Belladonna and Miwa/LykaLynx comes to mind when I think about chuubas making their own thread

https://store.chroneco.moe/#NvMBU

Guys, I want something like this but with a text box / font that looks similar to old final fantasy / DQ games. (This is not viewers text, its the STREAMER text that appears on screen)

Thank you for any help. I'm willing to even pay someone to make something similar.

>>9541983
Yeah. It was a small streamer DMed me after I raided her, sent me a link. I was pleasantly surprised. But no rats.

>>9544221
I've only got a PNG, anon. It was about $35 for a very simple mouth open/closed, and the copyright/commercial rights, so I can fuck about with the png in paint to make things.

>>9549972
Shit that's not much at all, maybe golem wizard will finally be a reality

>>9551128
I got it on fiverr, so you do have to be kind of careful of stolen art, but for png requests, it's not too bad.

Just ping the artist first, and check if they're okay with commercial use. It's probably okay, but if they kick off a fuss, you might be fucked.

bump

>>9525340
If you’re referring to my vocal crackle, please take into account that I currently have a sinus infection (there is pleghm stuck in my throat)

>>9558876
don't take the bait.

I'm in an interesting situation as a babiniku and could use raw, unfiltered thoughts on the matter. I don't use any filters or modulators (other than noise gating and compression), which many a view has said leads to a calm (lol) and soothing voice. Some don't mind that I'm using a female avatar, but more than one person has said I should get a male one instead. Really I'm using a female avatar because it's been my brand for many years. I'm not sure a male model would magically boost my numbers either. If anything, wouldn't it be a debuff?

>>9559647
on the internet you can be whatever you want to be, if you wanna be a girl then be a girl

male avatars aren't necessarily a debuff if they aren't overly masculine, so if you're going to switch over to a "male" model then keep the features softer

>>9559647
figure out what content you're going for, what your audience will be, and how you're going to develop your content as a streamer first. a model can make or break things. going for another generic dude in a half mask with a suit when all going to do is rage at card games doesn't really lend itself to good content.

>>9524206
Yeah, I remember thinking about auditioning, or at least just looking, and it was really vague, but I think that's because they want people that'll be creative with that freedom

>>9525340
that's not a voice changer, she just needs to drink some water

>>9559647
If you have a good voice a male avatar will get you some money and more popular probably. People want attractive characters with a voice they find attractive, and a lot of people will be turned off by the uncanny valley factor of a masculine voice coming out of a female avatar and vice versa. A lot of males will also use female avatars so the market for attractive male chuubas is more lucrative. Though its not the end of the world if you enjoy what you're doing and are doing it to have fun. Its always up to you if you want to rebrand yourself to he more profitable for any reason.

>>9500568
You're getting a little distortion from your voice changer, but it's otherwise fine. It'll be more apparent if you sing and change tones a lot. Just reduce the program a bit and train your voice. Take it slow so you don't strain your vocal cords as you do.

stop taking the >voice changer bait please

>>9560674
I have a solid audience already, which is why I'd have to designate certain days to use this theoretical new model rather than the one I have already.

>>9567773
I mostly just don't even know what to do in terms of a male avatar. My existing model is based on an OC TTRPG character I made years ago, but I don't really have any notable Male OCs. I'd have to find someone willing to sit down with me and hash out a design from scratch.

>>9567993
>I have a solid audience already
then ask your audience?

>>9568015
That's what led me to post in the first place. I'd say half are fine with what I have, and half want to see a male model. The latter would probably still watch me even if I didn't, but you never know.

>>9568112
if you're only doing it for your audience, then it really doesn't matter. if you're looking for broader mainstream appeal, go with a male model if you have a male presenting voice.

>>9567993
What if you combined different aspects of your female ocs into something that fits like a good branding for you, and then genderswap or create a male oc out of it?

Although, it could help to stick with coherent branding if you plan to use both models. What kind of character is your current model now, outside of being an OC TTRPG model? Any defining traits you can bring over to the new model, branding wise?

>>9568306
That generally confirms what I was thinking, thanks. I guess I need to decide if I'm fine with it being a hobby or if I actually want to try and make it a career.

>>9570698
I could bring over a few things, such as their unique clothing and hair gradients. Tails/Horns might work, but I worry they'd have to be enlarged for a male model to the point that they'd just be in the way. Because as everyone knows, males have to have big fucking horns.

>>9570925
I think small / medium horns could be cute/cool if utilized in the right ways. There's tons of great and creative designs you can do with horns!

>>9570925
>I guess I need to decide if I'm fine with it being a hobby or if I actually want to try and make it a career.
you can always just do what you want for now and then rebrand or change your model in the future. just one of the big perks of being a vtuber. your presentation self doesn't have to remain static.

I applied for the company I like the most and got a few views on it. I'm really hoping they liked me enough to give me an interview.

Any of you vtubing as a job? If so how much do you make?

>>9572160
not a job, hobby, $440 last month, $370 this month so far, but most of it was because of the discounted subscription price

>>9572296
How many hours, how long have you been streaming? Not gonna lie, i never though you could make more than 50 bucks at best from vtubing

>>9572422
5 months streaming, 18 hours per week across 4 days usually, sometimes more over the weekend.

>>9572469
What kind of content do you make, male or female?

>>9572536
male, a variety of games. been playing valve games recently for the nostalgia buff. been playing Portal and just taking it slow while talking about the story.

>>9572606
Naisu, glad you are making it Anon. Got any tips for begginers? Not interested in making it for the money but i have some ideas that would need investment in the future.

>>9572826
if you're not in it for the money, then it's pretty easy. do it for yourself. i know that sounds campy and cheesy, but really think about what's fun for you and do it. the shit they say about "what value you do you give to your viewers" really comes into play when you're able to create an environment where you're having fun and inviting your viewers to have fun along with you.

>>9570925
>horns

There's a ton of male and female demon vtubers. Best to avoid that asthetic if you want growth. The market is extremely over saturated.

>>9573208
Chibidoki has the shittiest design and that didn't stop her from growing. I feel like people that watch vtubers don't care anout original designs as much as we think.

>>9573263
Shitty design or not its memorable. If anything you're proving my point. Its not another forgettable demon/horned demon-like. Women and men that watch males also like generally human looking males if you look at what's popular. Look at the male niji line up or even what's popular in terms of male English speaking chuubas. You can make a demon just don't expect much growth past 2 or 3k. You'll hit a wall no matter how charismatic.

>>9573988
On Twitter. Active views will stay around 50-100 tops.

>>9500568
you sound like an asian tranny
but yeah it should work

>>9524865
I can't stop laughing but i'm high and anything makes me laugh, remind me to check again tomorrow

>>9573988
How is it memorable? It's just a generic loli sucubuss with the most basic color palette. If anyone posted thay design here it would get shit on how bad it is. Even as an artfag that loves chibi i can't do fanart of her because of how uninteresting her design is.

>>9519493
>4channers
>the spacing

>>9573208
Not that chuuba, but I think it's incredibly close-minded, design-wise, to call horns generic. I do agree there are a lot of cut-and-paste horned-vtubers out there, but the fault lies in a generic and unimaginative design. Horns offer a lot of creativity options in a design. People take that for granted and just slap horns onto their models for the sake of it.

Being scared of doing things that have been done before is being scared to bring something new to that plate. Everything has been done before. No base concept is original.

>>9572160
~$1500 usd a month. not corpo, around 30views. I lucked out with my audience. I'm a shit 3rdworlder so that much is enough to support my living expenses&some extra.

>>9574484
>not over designed
>horns look more like robotic attachments than horns
>eye brows stand out in a cute way
>color pallette is pleasing if you're into moe lolis
>art style is pleasing if you're into moe lolis

Horns don't usually work, its plain and simple. Its over done. For females its a little more welcomed occasionally but for male chuubas you will get filtered by many. No base concept is original but going for something extremely over done that's known to hit a small limit is always going to be a debuff. You could just go with a less over done concept and make out better if you want to go pro. Its fine if you enjoy it as a hobby, but if you want to built a large audience you can't rely on something people are actively avoiding due to over exposure.

>>9575581
what the fuck 1500 USD a month for a third worlder sounds pretty good. Nice one anonchama
better than most starting salaries for college grads here lmao

>>9573263
>I feel like people that watch vtubers don't care anout original designs as much as we think.

wow its almost as if the design isnt as crucial as people make it out to be, WILD! unless its a sex-appeal aimed design, the chuuba usually cares more about it than fucking viewers do. The general rule of thumb is that it doesn't need to be good, it just can't be bad.

>>9566835
I have sinus infection anon :(( I am going to a hospital soon
I am so confused by the voice changer bait wtf is this board

>>9575581
1500 from just 30 viewers? do they donate directly through streamlabs or something where twitch doesn't take cuts? Also, I feel it begs the questions, female?

>>9573208
what if my design has horns, but is not a demon

>>9575908
Thanks anon, it's definitely made some of my relatives seethe that I get paid for this lmao.
>>9577732
Yes SL, about 6 or 7 guys dump $100& there's a big spender who drops $500+ a month. The rest is misc donations. I'm female(not loli or coomer bait).

If I want to pull more donations what do I do? Gfe?

>>9577866
Anon, you're already making a shitton more than anyone else here is through streaming.

There's one thing I've seen a self-confessed LewdTuber do before, which is run a monthly/weekly call with the big spenders. So once a week/month, the largest single dono, overall dono, bits, and sub gifter each get a 90 minute discord call, or 45 minute ERP.

If you want to avoid going down that route, then yeah, I'd suggest the GFE.

>>9577866
GFE or try and increase your streaming time. I've had a few big spenders but eventually they just move on to the next thing sadly, enjoy and save up what you can for now though, major props.

Raid Etiquette.

So last night, I'd planned on raiding someone's debut - we'd chatted briefly on twitter, he had a cool model, and I figured it'd be nice to support a new streamer. Checking before going, I was raiding as a party of 15.

Turns out his first ever stream was going well, and he was currently sitting on 25 viewers. My 15 was noticeable, although only two others posted a raid message.

If I raid into someone with a viewcount of 60, then my viewers are a significantly smaller size than them. From what I've seen, raids of 1 or 2 into medium size streamers (20+) generally get ignored, or just a thank you; whereas larger raids tend to get a shoutout.

But if I raided into Hal0, who's currently got 450 viewers, that'd very obviously be clout chasing, right? Or does it not matter so much with the much larger ones? Or if I raided 'GTWiseGuy', who's got something like 15K viewers, that's the same.

Or does it just not matter? Raid whoever, ignore size, nobody views it as clout chasing?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but having "dead/inactive followers" on twitter would be bad because your tweets would seemingly get low interactions based on your "audience" right? But how would "inactive followers" impact you on Twitch?

>>9585277
it wouldn't aside from people thinking you have bad follower -> live viewer retention

>>9580353
reformat your post if you want me to bother reading it

>>9585277
twitch doesnt use the same algorithms that twitter or youtube in particular does
dead subs on youtube can actually noticeably fuck you over and set you back several months
twitch on the other hand just has simple filters like
most viewers, least viewers, recently started stream etc. so it shouldnt impact you much at all

>>9586252
RaidEtiquette.Solastnight,I'dplannedonraidingsomeone'sdebut-we'dchattedbrieflyontwitter,hehadacoolmodel,andIfiguredit'dbenicetosupportanewstreamer.Checkingbeforegoing,Iwasraidingasapartyof15.Turnsouthisfirsteverstreamwasgoingwell,andhewascurrentlysittingon25viewers.My15wasnoticeable,althoughonlytwootherspostedaraidmessage.IfIraidintosomeonewithaviewcountof60,thenmyviewersareasignificantlysmallersizethanthem.FromwhatI'veseen,raidsof1or2intomediumsizestreamers(20+)generallygetignored,orjustathankyou;whereaslargerraidstendtogetashoutout.ButifIraidedintoHal0,who'scurrentlygot450viewers,that'dveryobviouslybecloutchasing,right?Ordoesitnotmattersomuchwiththemuchlargerones?OrifIraided'GTWiseGuy',who'sgotsomethinglike15Kviewers,that'sthesame.Ordoesitjustnotmatter?Raidwhoever,ignoresize,nobodyviewsitascloutchasing?

>>9580353
if you have more than 20, raid whoever you want. the clout chasing bullshit comes up when you start raiding 1 and 2 views to big streamers every single time they go live.

Does anyone know any good voice changer? I felt inspired by Okayu's mama.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYhY3jpgOH0

>>9587262
There are no good voice changers simply because its currently still physically impossible to do that kind of processing in real time.
What that lad is doing and what works and what you should be doing as well is voice acting. Learn to talk and act like a girl, simple as.

>>9587262
okayu's mama could be a reverse trap

please stop taking the >voicechanger bait

Anyone know a good genderchanger?

>>9588113
just self identify

>>9587345
Why would Okayu and her mama lie though? It's way more impressive if it's all voice acting

>>9589889
Are they lying? I didnt listen very carefully but didnt the retarded translator just translate babiniku = voice changer, which isnt true.
Anyway, using a voice changer to achieve a true girl voice is impossible since all you can in real time do is just changing the pitch and tone.
They can and should be used sparingly to help (doesnt matter which one you use because they all work the same way) but 95% is gonna be training your own voice and speech pattern.

Hopefully I can get a download of cubism to rig up my art when I finish it, If I could collab with anyone that'd be cool. Anyone know if its better to stream on twitch or youtube for smaller audiences? I assume its twitch probably?

>>9590496
>generic emo boy
ahahaha

>>9590713
I made and rigged a different design before but I kinda just decided to do something simple. Im generic so I dont mind owning up to it. I just want to do this as a hobby anyways.

>>9590496
the wrinkles make you look like a pensioner, the art itself is not bad
twitch but maybe check out jewtube gaming too
you can find cracked up to date versions of cubism editor with a simple search

>>9590899
got it, thanks

>>9590496
>If I could collab with anyone that'd be cool
why would anyone collab with someone who has zero established content?

>>9590997
for fun, I do have an art twitter account with a couple thousand followers but Im not really looking to collab for clout, just fun

>>9591153
most chuubas aren't going to be willing to risk putting their image at risk by collabing with a brand new chuuba from 4chan who may start dropping slurs and hot /pol/ takes right off the bat. get a month or two of content under your belt first.

>>9590496
>If I could collab with anyone
most people here dont actually stream and are just vtwitterer trannies that circlejerk eachother or act like >>9590997
just a quick look at the discussions in /wvt/ is enough to make me want to vomit
you are probably better off not associating with anyone from here or /wvt/ if you want to just have fun. just play with your non vtuber friends or try to befriend someone actually streaming

>>9591355
welcome back tourist, how long are you here for this time?

>>9591251
makes sense, wasnt planning to from the get go but its good to keep it in mind, thanks

>>9591380
Id tell you to check the ip count but coming fresh from twitter you probably have no idea what it is

>>9590496
I would simp

I know this is actually extremely unimportant because nobody is going to be watching anyway, but i want to try streaming for the first time.. the thing is that i just don't know what to stream. Resident Evil 4? I sure love that game and could yap on about how much i love it. Or i could play Spelunky because i suck and would die many times. Or i could play magic the gathering and actually get 0 viewers forever because nobody wants to watch that

>>9593072
if you really are streaming to zero viewers, it doesn't matter. you can always re-stream the game again once you get new viewers. but don't be a retard and intentionally debuff yourself by streaming something no one wants to watch.

Can someone explain the GFE experience? Would I just simulate that by interacting with my audience.. like any normal streamer should??

>>9590496
Hey wait a second... I think I recognize that art!
SS?

>>9593384
it's not just interacting with your audience but subtly hinting that you're together or have a chance at getting together.

>>9593422
Could I stimulate this by flirting with the chat and acting possessive? Like ‘where did u go’ kinda stuff

>>9593565
if that's the kind of GFE you want, sure

>>9593565
I wouldn't mind it myself, but some might. Also you should be prepared for a lot of parasocial horny weebs if you're gonna do GFE

>>9591251
>collabing with a brand new chuuba from 4chan
its posts like these that make me remember that /asp/ has such a different culture from the rest of the board
no one cares if you're from /here/ and its not like the random chuubas he'd meet on twitter would know anyway
>>9591418
yeah for the most part, people usually want to get to know each other before collabing

>>9593379
What are things no one wants to watch? I want to mostly stream retro games

>>9594752
There's a difference in being coming /here/ and only being from /here/
someone with literally no streams under their belt trying to collab is a red flag in general, and if all you know about someone is that they're from 4chan with literally nothing else to go on, that's a huge red flag too.

it doesn't matter that yuuna from tsunderia periodically shitposts on /trash/, she has enough experience that you can trust she's a professional. some random faggot on /asp/ who's never streamer who has an avatar that takes 5 seconds to shit out in mspaint? yeah, not happening.

>>9594862
oh i totally get that but the guy even mentioned:
>>9591153
if he has a following i'd say he has more than just "nothing going on"
its not a case like say, sh*n*a who literally shit out a vroid and had nothing else going on and existed to shit up threads

I find myself in a predicament. I am an ESL chuuba and i was thinking of making content in my native language until i get more comfortable with english, however, most chuubas that speak my language pander to a certain group, something like a reddit from here but with more zoomers and shittier memes. I hate that group so fucking much, but every time i check a chuuba they are there, spamming their shitty memes and grooming them into becoming one of their own. If they ever show up in my chat, how should i react to them? I was thinking of ignoring them but considering i am probably going to be a 2view it's going to be hard. I truly, TRULY don't want that audience but they seem to cling to every chuuba that had the bad luck of being born in this hell hole.

>>9595434
How do you know his twitter with a few thou isn't a furry diaper twitter

>>9602118
Its not that hard bro, just be polite.
If you had an annoying coworker would you freak out and start yelling at them on the spot or start sucking their dick for existing?
No, you'd just politely deal with them as it happens and then immediately ignore them when its not relevant.

Even if they're annoying people, most people can read the mood and if you're not playing their game they'll either play your game or leave.

>>9602291
You truly don't know how insufferable they are my biggest fear is they end up thinking i hate them and attacking me, it has already happened.

>>9602544
called the block button bro.
you think the EN sphere won't have trannies and twitterfags doing the same shit? if you're in the public eye as a streamer, you're going to deal with shitty and annoying people. learn to ignore and not give them the reaction they're pining for.

these people have adhd and if you're not giving them instant gratification they'll put up a tweet and move on.

>>9602544
rp as a boomer who doesn't understand technology so you can't use their website, feign ignorance to all their meme references but don't encourage them, then dump them as soon as you feel comfortable doing so

>>9590496
I like that he's older but he's too baby faced and chubby. A more masculine attractive model that isn't full bara with the same design would do extremely well though.

I was thinking about getting into vtubing, but my first obstacle is my voice. I sound like a somewhat deep voiced monotone redditor. Does anyone have tips for putting a bit more emotion in my voice? Should I post a Vocaroo?

How much of a roadblock is being unable to speak going to be? I know some chuuba's out there already choose to be mute and they try to make up for that by having expensive 3d models and all the tracking to go with it. Are legitimately mute people just stuck with expensive requirements to entertain people?

>>9606643
always post-a-roo a vo-ca-roo

>>9606650
full-body vr with a good model or follow corpse and vampoyo examples

>>9606643
its the same advice as everything
1. post
2. just practice more. do some Voice acting practice, read some scripts. stop being a faggot and embrace the cringe.

>>9606650
>How much of a roadblock is being unable to speak going to be?
you're basically never going to make it as a streamer. maybe you can do some recorded youtube skits. but streaming isn't viable for you.

>>9606650
imagine if you were a stand-up comedian without speaking. Its definitely not outside the realm of possibility but its definitely gonna take way more work to be able to not just do it, but do it well

depends if you want it bad enough

>>9607141
Is using TTS out of the question? I've been using TTS for years so I'm fully aware of it's limitations but it's at least 'something' but I'm afraid that using it while streaming would just get me essentially booed off stage for "copying" Zen's gimmick (despite the fact I've been using TTS to speak with my friends since before Zen was even on VRChat).

>>9607292
>(despite the fact I've been using TTS to speak with my friends since before Zen was even on VRChat).
no one cares about this because no one knows who you are. what are you going to do, show screenshots and receipts of yourself using TTS to every new viewer who shows up in hopes of convincing them that you did something first? you're gonna be compared to the bigger vtubers out there and Zen's entire thing is TTS.

>>9606643
Watch some shows and copy their inflection. And/or find a deep voiced vtuber like Oga or Oliver and see what you like about their voices and how you can emulate a little bit of their inflection and speaking habits. People like deeper voices a ton if they sound charismatic.

>>9607338
So it's not out of the question? I'd just have to brace for the inevitable and ignore the comparisons? That's easy enough.

>>9587262
Man if this was in the west you'd get a bunch of polfaggots mad. I'm so mad I'm not japanese bros

Anyone got info from kawaii production? Anyone auditioned?

>>9544029
VRChat mutes are a sizeable amount of streamers. As long as you have an expressive and cute/hot model then you're good.

Anyone willing to critique my content? I thought of the idea of using the Shorts format for Youtube but it seems like the algorithm is pretty rough with it having exposure. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVOqvTOu4l7u-OlhqIV4N2Q

>>9609357
Cute model but why are you just commenting on stuff?
Just go look at the top tiktok videos and just copy them with your spin on it. Do some dancing and stuff and show off your model.

>>9607975
I got a lot of views from them, even one recently, but I haven't been contacted so I'm 99% sure I've been rejected

If I'm using a relatively feminine voice already, should I go ahead and put trap / state i'm a guy. or should i just say girl and avoid those issues and plausible deniability it

>>9609659
Thanks!

I noticed that the Youtube Shorts Shelf Algo is a bit normie. It seems to be rehashed content and reuploadings straight from TikTok. Based off the comments that the Youtube Shorts get, I have a feeling that it is catered towards the younger crowd. I'm not looking to be the most subscribed or viewed person, just trying to see how vtubing as a whole can expand within the Youtube space with these videos (and to have fun of course).

I'll definitely check out what trends are relevant!

>>9609762
Ohh, I got only one view on each, so probably shouldn't count on anything

>>9610147
>I noticed that the Youtube Shorts Shelf Algo is a bit normie. It seems to be rehashed content and reuploadings straight from TikTok.
that's because the shorts are literally trying to copy Tiktok. it's not that the algorithm is inherently normie, it's that the service i.e. shorts, is trying to get established as a core aspect of youtube. and the way to do that is by pushing the most mainstream stuff that already works. give it some time and it'll start branching out into more niche topics.

guys any suggestions for names/ users? my theme is choco skin loli angel girl. i cant think of a cute name to go by

>>9613163
"Generic Pedobait #524978" might be a bit too on the nose but it'll still work.

>>9613163
chocodo pedo

>>9491187
I've noticed that a lot of successful vtubers are really talented singers. How can I learn to sing as a mid-20's man with zero childhood experience? I've been doing the exercises here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3eT2NoTYwNA but I sound so bad while singing. Should I get professional vocal lessons or is it too late for me to try?

>>9611805

Really interested to see how the industry will move in to stuff like this !

>>9613878
drop a vocaroo of you singing and wait for bloom to drop by to tell you things

>>9614934
his DMs are open on twitter and he seems friendly, could always just ask him

>>9613300
>>9613344
cope

>>9613163
Do you have like a dessert themed (I suppose that because the choco thing) chuuba or more like a angel one? Maybe having that on mind, your main theme of your avatar, could help you to choose or think a name.

>>9572160
$180 last month, was my first month... this month about $70 :/

>>9621395
female or male, what kind of content do you make?

>>9623527
female. casual streams.

>>9609855
your audience doesn't care about what your gender is

>>9607338
>what are you going to do, show screenshots and receipts of yourself using TTS to every new viewer who shows up in hopes of convincing them that you did something first?
!tts

>>9607514
Yes, use it all you want and fail, no one can stop you

>>9589889
It is pitched up a tiny bit but that's mostly voice acting and getting the female vocal mannerisms right. That's why a lot of people think BungoTaiga is a girl, because he talks really faggy and feminine sometimes

Sorry for the mic bugging out a bit, don't know what that's about. Any advice is welcome. https://voca.ro/15tnyha11PZ9

>>9606727
Damn, the embracing the cringe part is actually good advice, thanks anon.
>>9607430
My voice isn't close to as deep as theirs, but I will use your advice, thanks!

bump

>>9614934
Turn down your volume before playing. https://voca.ro/156Gwl2MYakq My voice cracks if I try higher notes, me singing the do-re-mi scale sounds awful on higher notes. I thought me having a relatively high pitched voice for a man would enable me to sing higher notes but nope my voice still cracks.

Page 10 bump

Ebosi, the jellyfish is streaming some Minecraft right now if you guys want to support some of her aspirations:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsWI1wpNYiY

What viewership range is the ideal to look for vtubers worth grooming?

bump

>>9643037
3.

If they have 2, then that's themselves and a bot. If they have 3, then someone else is interested in them, so they ~probably aren't total shit

>>9641094
Ebosi is probably a poor example of aspirational vtubers here. Most /asp/ies are western and generally English speaking only. So not only will it be difficult to understand what Ebosi is doing outside of karaoke, they are appealing to two different audiences and different cultures already. Plus Ebosi has a background as a prior vtuber with a sizeable audience for a mostly-indie.

>>9643037
Depends on what you mean by "grooming" because you can literally pick a 0 view, drop a $25 bit donation and they'll love you forever. Or you can take a 35 view and spam gift subs for the same thing.

Do you think any larger chuubas would harass smaller ones? How would you deal with it?

>>9651458
It happens a lot. Also same sized ones sometimes, I've seen one where an idiot lashed out at another vtuber claiming their design is stolen from them.. but that other vtuber had their design for longer than them.

>>9574216
Are you still laughing? I'm auditioning.

>>9651747
Do you know how to deal with it? What would you do if some holo started to harass you?

>>9651458
never seen it happen and if there were you'd have receipts.

>>9653620
If a holo-level started harassing me, then it'd be great for growth. Antis would jump to my side, and I could just ignore it because I'm a 10-view who doesn't actually read twitter, just auto-likes everything posted by mutuals.

>>9652701
My bad, i forgot: Get a better mic, it was hard to understand what you were saying, i could only make out clearly that a cat was meowing

>>9651458
Happened before with normal content creators before (like creepshowart), screencap everything that could send you and pretend to ignore it publicly, see if you can talk with the person and finish the situation privately
if not and it starts getting uncomfortable, block and try to expose the person with evidence like screenshots.

https://vocaroo.com/1gzX4U634MTT
Opinions on this voice?
Was planning to be a bloodborne inspired hunter.
I'm just using a usb mic with obs noise suppression at the moment so apologies for the slight cutout.

>>9666632
you're trying to hard and that strain is going to pop your voice an hour in. stop.

>>9653620
I would be thrilled if a holo started harassing me

Is there a place to get rating on how ESL a vtuber sounds? Is this place all good?

I haven't step outside for such a long time without interacting with anyone but my family that I fear that I might have developed a speech impediment.

>>9666916
post a vocaroo, but unless your accent is literally too thick to understand, most voices are fine.

>>9666906
That's easy, just upload music you made for them to your own channel.

>>9666632
dude this is cringe, speak like a fucking human being

ur going to have to turn ur gain to +400db because no one can hear what the fuck youre saying while ur doing a dollar store corpse impression

>>9666916
Also, I don't have a good "native language" as other ESL vtuber have, so I can't even play that up as my strength. Thus, I figured that I need to brush heavily on my English (that I don't even use on a daily basis).

>>9667005
post a fucking vocaroo no one cares about your blog

>>9666916
Another esl here ! Let me hear you in a vocaroo n.n

>>9613163
chocotina = chocolate + kurisutina

>>9666969
But I wanna be Sir Vilhelm.
He's super cool mate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgcezFDsFO4
>>9666756
Actually it's really easy on my voice. Super easy to do as well. Though if I try to sound deeper than normal it does put a bit of strain on it, so I don't think I could do a Vilhelm stream.
Do you think the voice generally sounds alright apart from that or is there slightly too much gravel or something?
I was considering trying to tune it a bit since I do think there might be slightly too much of a gravel to it, but as it is now it's basically just my natural voice with that added in.

>>9667700
it sounds incredibly bad.

>>9667700
You are going to get tired of that voice in 15 minutes of streaming plus it's cringe, he may be a cool character but there is a reason no one puts on super deep character voices as their streaming persona. Because it sucks to listen to for too long especially if you're simply going "Today we're playing games" instead of "We're reaping the souls of the damned" or whatever

>>9667700
>Actually it's really easy on my voice. Super easy to do as well. Though if I try to sound deeper than normal it does put a bit of strain on it,
seriously doubting this unless you've got some medical condition like Corpse husband does. especially because you sound incredibly breathy, which is a sign that you're trying too hard to go lower than your voice normally sits at. but it really doesn't matter, since the initial gut reactions from anons is that you're trying to hard. any viewer who walks into your streams is going to have similar gut reactions.

>>9666916

I went for the stock sentence "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog". I didn't really use my "real voice" because it's too ugly so those are 'voice-acted'.

1. (larping as a customer service employee) https://vocaroo.com/12cOohmuhu6a
2. (larping as a shota) https://voca.ro/1cOf5Wmm1v6I
3. (larping as a France French person---I've never been to France and not even EU, is this good enough to larp as a French vtuber and hit a hidden niche?) https://voca.ro/1bT9PmTKJYzT
Bonus. (WARNING LOUD & CRINGE & YOU'LL WANT TO CLEANSE YOUR MEMORY!--- larping as a noisy baby/dying seal) https://voca.ro/1jldfXqDQQLO

There were 5 other takes but they were more or less some variants of the above. I tried to emulate the standard American accent (except for the French). Which one sounds the most 'natural'?

Here's something long for a change (1 min 14 sec), Navy Seal Pasta: https://voca.ro/13NPfY2kiMb0

You can hear accent fall apart.

>>9668878
i like sea chuubas

>>9667700
keyword: “i wanna”

yeah hes cool but unfortunately your version of it isnt

like I said before, youre barely audible because your voice naturally isnt deep so youre compensating by speaking quieter and reaching lower

are you waiting for someone to tell you that its good to feel validated, because so far the reactions are negative

>>9668968
Hehe, do I sound that much from SEA?

What place do you think?

>>9669180
Navy seal pasta kinda made me guess. I'd assume malay

>>9668878
even if these are voice acted, I can't imagine that your natural speaking voice would be "too ugly", your accent doesn't fall into the category of being hard to listen to, I think it can be charming in its own way

what exactly do you change about it? maybe try posting your natural speaking voice so we can see the difference

>>9668878
sounds fine. i don't really have any suggestions on which voice to pick as long as its something you can keep up over the court of a 3 hour stream. you may have to speak a little slower so the accent doesn't end up making it difficult for average viewers to understand. but you can get that with practice.

>>9669098
>are you waiting for someone to tell you that its good to feel validated
No. It's 10AM here and I had a meeting.
Seems like I'll have to either trash it then.
Honestly I don't think my natural voice sounds very good so I was hoping to try and emulate a game or anime character voice since I figured that's basically what most English female livers do. Guess it's back to the drawing board.

>>9670295
Females putting on a voice for streaming is different than this and the majority of them simply do the polite speaking to people voice that tends to be higher pitched than their real voice (I do this at work) Your vocaroo is more like character acting. Females can do it too but it's rare. If you don't like your normal voice just learn to like it, I can already assume it's a normal male voice, as long as it's not heavily accented or has stilted flow you are fine

>>9670295
>Honestly I don't think my natural voice sounds very good so I was hoping to try and emulate a game or anime character voice
you're a streamer, not a video game character. until you get that through your head, all your voices are going to be cringe. there's a huge diference between entertaining viewers and reading voice lines from a script.

>>9670490
emotion, passion, energy, whatever you wanna call it is what people want to hear in a voice most, I listen to an autistic girl with a heavy lisp just because she really enjoys talking about what she likes

>>9670295
youre going to be streaming not larping at the local park with your friends

the more you get used to your regular voice and speaking with confidence then the better youll sound

I dunno why, but having someone in my chat, even if it's just once. Genuinely feels nicer than having more than 3 viewers. Maybe it's because I know that person isn't a bot or something.

Would you guys mind giving feedback to spanish vocaroos? My content will be primary spanish but I also want to spit some random english sentences(as I do in my head) or respond to any english speaker viewer. I could send some spanish vocaros and an english one. If you're interested we have a spanish version of the Navy forces pasta

okay guys i have the money and i have an idea of how i want my chubba to look like,
how much money you guys think it's rigth to start my budget is 1kxxktg

>>9673076
More than 1k for sure

>>9673076
some of the really good artists are charging near 3k for model alone without rigging

but definitely over 1k at least

>>9673376
>>9674005
Shit, maybe I should get into making L2D models at this rate.

>>9674034
An average rigger cost 1.5k

>>9674034
You can find models for less then 1K, Might not be the best quality. Make sure you shop around for the style you want.

>>9674374
>>9674411
I have a graphic design background and dabbled in L2D a bit about six or so years ago back before anybody cared about it as a potential tool, so it might actually be something to consider to fill me free time.

Not the guy who was asking about budgeting, by the way, I'm just someone who tends to forget how much money these people are making on even semi-decent rigs.

>>9674374
If you're getting absolute top of the line Iron Vertex rigging maybe. There's plenty of highly-skilled riggers in the 400 to 800 USD range

don't spend more than $500 on rigging your first mdoel

>>9674034
honestly yeah its a pretty new avenue for a career path that didnt exist before

you can make a living just doing live2d related work from drawing or rigging

I think the demand for drawing models is going to peter off at some point but rigging is definitely something I can see staying for a long while

>>9675361
>>9675361
>I think the demand for drawing models is going to peter off at some point but rigging is definitely something I can see staying for a long while
this is kinda dumb since both are transferrable skills. drawing models can come in hand if you start working freelance indie game projects, visual novels and serializations. rigging is the same thing. a lot of mobile card gacha games being churned out in korea, china, and japan utilize live2d rigging for minor animations and movement in their gacha cards.

vtubing specifically may taper off, but both skills are transferrable to a lot of other industries.

>>9675625
what, I never said the skills werent transferrable in a different form or medium

I was referring specifically to the demand for vtuber models becoming less

so at the end of your paragraph you just reiterated what I stated already lol

>>9675625
Get your eyes checked anon

Just found a crack for live2d and im already rigging my own model, this thing is tedious. At least its fun doing the whole art and rigging myself.